/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1953381
Kek
Try harder

Guess I just missed the new thread.

WIP, gotta clean and finish this turd off.

>>1953385
>Try harder
Thy harder what?

Been practising environment thumbnail.

>>1953405
generic

>>1953405
Also drew this thing, lately drawing has become less of a chore and more for fun. I'm drawing so much stuff I acciedently keep forgetting to do actual work.

>>1953406
What can I do to make it less gerneric, I'm guessing expanding my visual library will help but anything else?

>>1953389
Black lines are too harsh. You could pull it off a la GTA though I guess.

>>1953405
Center one looks like a dick.

The colors are okay, but the compositions are pretty boring. I think if you had a concept/idea beforehand then it'll be way more interesting to look at.

>>1953407
It looks like a missile. See Scott Robertson, he does a ton of small thumbs, then picked out something he liked to start rendering it.

>>1953407
How? How did you achive this level of zen? Master.

>>1953427
Well I don't know, I guess I did loose my virginity about a week ago. It could be related?

Just get laid anon.

hows my rough composition/lighting before i continue with this?

>>1953431

composition is about value, not about lines that describe objects.

>>1953439
I thought composition was more about how the objects are arranged/staged. I'm worrying more about that than the values right now.

>>1953431
meh, its missing some kind of flow, I dont know where to look at, guys boring back? horses feet? Oh that lady in the backroung is important I guess.

>>1953447

This. It needs a hierarchy of importance. As the other anon said, this is most efficiently achieved through value.

How about this duck drawn from a book? I haven't drawn anything in about 6 years. Is it passable?

>>1953461

What the hell does passable mean? It's the first thing you've drawn in 6 years and it looks like shit but you should have expected that.

>>1953442

nooooo man. no. typical rookie thinking.

>>1953428
Fuck. I better. 23 years is enough! I'll be wizard in the next life.

fuuuck
halp

>>1953509
The ground looks like a flat plane with a texture map slapped on.

Here's what you need to do. Identify what it is you're trying to draw, and what you're trying to convey. What's the story/scene? Is this a camp or a village? What time period is this? Who resides in these tents? Where are they now?

Once you have that ironed out, do some value thumbnails until you find a composition you like. Next, go out and find references for things. This includes the ground of the environment as mentioned before, but also the tents and anything else you place in there.

start of something
>>1953409
Where do you live? It doens't matter. Go out with your bike and a camera and make your own refference, develop your tastes in the landscape. The reason they're generic is because you always utilize the same formula. I.e focal point in midground receding 123 perspective.

You have landscapes near you that will be quite interesting for anyone outside of your area to watch and see. You can go outside and take pics then "juice up" the ideas you glean from these pictures in a fantasy manner. This will lead to much more original and fresh results.
>>1953421
Is the idea here to have a man running? Have you given this thought before you began? Running at the beach can be solved in a variety of the ways. The solution you've picked for now doesn't even show the movement very clearly.

>>1953431

>>1953545
I live in Yorkshire, so it's mostly farms and feilds with hills. I wish I could go to different places in the world, but I'm stuck here. But that's a good idea, I'll have to do it next week as I've got work tommorow.

I'll try to get a trip to York, there's some really nice architecture plus I can get some nice shots of Roman ruins, thanks anon.

A little practice to get back into the swing of things. Oils and oil pastels.

girls

>>1953550

That's better, in terms of flow. Still, think about where you want the eye to go. You wanna pave a road for it, so it stays interesting. It might be better if you move the dude off center some (to avoid having a focal point smack in the center). Maybe have one or two of the horses kind of snorting or whatever it is they do when they shake their head, maybe one kinda lifting its leg a little. Or hell, maybe one or two of the dudes are holding banners.

Just little things like that to kinda draw the eye.

Also, the top right is just kinda wasted space, I feel like. Put something up there like the an audience or a painting (can't tell if it's supposed to be a wall or just an open space).

Either way, do little things that stand out enough to draw the eye without looking out of place.

>>1953594
Its a paint over man

My third attempt at inking. Only one reference used for the helmet region.

>>1953564
The composition is lacking but your painting skills are pretty gud!

Would love some input on these. What am I doing well/ poorly? Is the hatching working? All from reference.

>>1953616

>>1953616
It's kinda cool.
The hatching is too systematic ant even, looks like a pattern. It could become a stylistic choice later but if you want to learn proper hatching you will have to make it more subtle, more life like.

>>1953613
Thank you anon, and yeah, I've never really paid too much attention to composition, definitely something I'll need to change. Everyone seems to have differing opinions on it though, often conflicting, so I've kind of just brushed it under the rug.

>>1953640
>differing opinions

don't worry anon, there's a right and a wrong way to do it so most of those opinions are probably from people who dont know what theyre talking about. brushing composition under the rug is just...

Doing master studies. Trying to suck less dick.

>>1953666

>>1953693
please practice before you keep posting these. all those pictures and no progression

I drew this bored peach, I'm not sure. Thoughts?

>>1953693
Do you have a blog or something where you post all of these?

>>1953695
I kind of agree with you on this. I love pretty much everything he's done but in a lot of them you can see he's held back by a lack of fundamental knowledge (or maybe just lazyness). Really cool stuff anyways.

>>1953701
>>1953695
I don't think his skills are so bad, using ms paint can make anyone look bad.

>>1953701
i wouldnt go as far as to say that theyre particularly "cool". mainly just stoner doodle thrown together with no real direction or message

>>1953707
ms paint isnt the problem, i have 0 problem with the fact that he uses ms paint

>>1953698
I'll call it done

>>1953712
try redrawing it with an expression, but try to make it a subtle one, static faces are easy. bonus modo: not angry, happy, or looking off to the side

>>1953708

I can't agree with you on that. The one he just posted is fantastic. There is so much energy and personality in it. It's terrifying like something you'd see in a nightmare. All his stuff is weird dreamy images that are more focused an communicating a feeling than adhering to the fundamentals of art. They are not perfect but they are absolutely unique and full of creative energy. Some people don't like that and that's fine but they are not in any stretch of the imagination "stoner doodles thrown together with no real direction or message".

>>1953713
Good point, I'm still practicing skin tones. Expressions will definitely be really hard without references.

>>1953723
going to summarize my post

i think anyone can do it

i dont think its hard to capture base emotion through use of dramatic colors and vague figures

from past behavior this guy seems unwilling to accept that his art isnt incredible and deep (unless im thinking of another anon)

lacking almost all of the fundamental skills that are required for "good art" take with salt

i'd rate it around the same level as Zentangles

>>1953730
if i need to summarize futher i guess i'd have to take it down to

i dont think its hard to capture base emotion through use of dramatic colors and vague figures

feels like a one-trick pony

doing dark souls related art in my not work art
asking for critique on this because its most fleshed out

I'm not done with lighting but as of right know I need help with line flow and color
Was my placement of the shield at the center too left?
The angle of the knight's head in the center too boring?

>>1953737
Composition, my eye doesn't know where to focus because I'm being blinded with a pallet of neon colours.

Direct the light to where you want to viewer to see, the rest should be darkend. See Caravaggio's work, it'll give you a better idea.

I'm currently just working on a master copy.
The fist image is the drawing I made as a
means of knowing where to place the
proportions and stuff...I don't fucking
know.

Second image is a the block in.I placed it on a different layer from the drawing. Just blocking in middle values and darks here and there.

Overall it's pretty tough. Gonna take a bit of time away from it. /ic/ what do? I feel I should sharpen edges here and there as well as examine what been put down and how far off they stray from the original.

So I've done a lot of human/small scale studies and now I'd like to not suck at landscapes.

How the fuck do I not suck at landscapes? Are thumbnails a good way to start with this stuff?

Was about 15 minutes.

>>1953712
Sharpen the edges. make studies of facial expressions. Bored ones. apply studies.

>>1953737
The biggest issues I see here are poor narrative and poor visual design.

Coming from someone who hasn't played dark souls, with these piece I'm confused about the setting, the characters, and what's happening altogether. An illustration should tell a story, even if it's a subtle one, or one that's open to interpretation. I can't tell who the protagonists or antagonists are, or if there's any such conflict. I can't tell if the 3 hyper detailed figures in the back are characters, or statues. I have no idea what the thing in the foreground on the left is supposed to look like. You can't really have a crop of something visually confusing without establishing it elsewhere. Whatever it is it looks like it's important because everyone is looking at it, but I can't discern what it might be, why it's there, why it's important, and what relationship it has with the other characters. The story should be clear to viewers without having to already know the source material intimately. The setting is weird too - whatever is happening, why is it happening in a stairwell? Isn't there a hall these people can be in?

Next is the visual design. You jumped into details WAY too early. You should have first ironed out the overall value structure, the composition, the perspective, the color palette, etc. You have a lot of details and colors that are hard on the eyes. You have too much reliance on black, and the black is too segregated. Instead of cohesive large shapes of dark, light, and everything inbetween, you have little patches of dark scattered throughout. There's nowhere for the eye to rest.

You have some structural issues, like the elongated bending helmets of the two dudes. You have some strange poses, like the gold guy who looks like he's sitting on an invisible chair.

>>1953737
>>1953749
(cont)
Your focal point is unclear, and this ties back into the narrative. I assume the gold guy is supposed to be the most important one, but the positions of the two clone guys makes them look like they're more important. You also have everyone looking at mystery figure, and something partially cropped and off canvas makes a terrible focal point.

You need to start from scratch - here's what you should do. Decide on what the story is you're trying to tell. Write it down if you have to. Who, What, When, Where, Why, How, and all that jazz. Be specific. Next, you need to explore thumbnails to figure out the best camera angle, poses, lighting, composition, and value structure. Make a dozen or more thumbs, and make them very different from each other (changing an arm or one figure's position doesn't count as a new thumbnail). Once you have one that works, make some color thumbnails to figure out your color palette. Make a dozen if you have to. Once you have one that works, you now have a blueprint to make your illustration. Gather references to help you, and paint away.

>>1953744
Don't worry about the edges yet. Get all of the shapes down at the right size and position, with the right value and the right color first. Edges are something that you refine after those initial shapes are correct.

>>1953743
I could see how Caravaggio's use of shaded lows and use of rich color in mid and high tone could help me with that, thanks

I don't have anything that good to share due to what's currently saved in my computer, and the fact that I don't have a good drawing program to actually finish stuff in gives me less reason to try scanning things, but I had a question and figured of all places maybe this board could give me some advice.
I know it's nothing that unusual to be in a rut for a while when it comes to drawing, but I keep getting inspired and I want to draw things but whenever I get down to actually drawing I can never formulate ideas and actually get something down, even if I have plenty of ideas, what do any of you do in that situation?

>>1953748
Yea true, my edges are really weak.

>>1953744
Use a bigger brush when doing the block in and progressively make it smaller, that way the white (in your case gray) of the canvas won't show and won't be a problem anymore.
Also check your values, everything is much brighter than it should be, especially the shadow on the face. Keep a black and white layer on top of your ref that you can enable to check the values whenever needed..

>>1953750
I'll start back to thumb-nailing this again__the narrative in summary was 4 characters, traversing down an flight of stairs collecting flower from bats ( the three figures near the window, the three in the back left and the one everyone is looking at) the collected flower s were placed on the shield

the idea was that the three that look like statues are supposed to symbolically younger kids hiding behind bushes, and the four bigger bats on the left hanging down were supposed to look like guardians of the stairs

crap, the focal point wasn't actually the mysterious figure but it was suppose to be these flowers it was holding, which bloom in the blue of the night. I removed them atm

The robed character was supposed to be the most important one and I made her vertically fill up the composition, the gold guy was actually supposed look like a student or an assistant

>>1953524
>>1953509
retry

>>1953796
>*painting intensifies*

looks like its shaking

got some interesting results in this one.

>>1953796
Compositional mess, also it's too ambitious for what you know how to paint. Example: no focal point, and his head is too big.

Hand is all kinds of fucked up. Not sure I can be arsed to continue going with it.

Painted over this sketch of mine but it still looks so naive

Something I did earlier today

>>1953832
they look pretty good for crashing straight down into the ground like that.

>>1953746
halp

First time doing life drawing like this since 2013, so had to grind off some rust...I'll post up a couple of the better ones. These are 2's.

I have no idea how to color skin. I can usually pull off one bland color, but I want to be able to use different hues like red and blue in the skin. Anyone have tips?

>>1953886
This was a 10 or 15, I forget.

>>1953888
15

How do you silence that crippling feeling of inadequacy and jealousy to clear your mind so you can effectively study the work of those better than you?
Every time I come here I want to give up

>>1953892
>How do you silence that crippling feeling of inadequacy and jealousy to clear your mind so you can effectively study the work of those better than you?
You don't. You just channel it into working at improving so the feelings will hopefully go away (they never do though).

>>1953890
>>1953888
id say work faster. put more lines down. use less white of the page. push yourself even if they are very bright values to represent them somehow with line. if that means making the darks even darker with a bolder pencil then do that.

its one of those things where every line your giving here is great, i just wish there was more of them. your capable of delivering more to your audience.

>>1953892
keep calm, draw black girls

>>1953896
That's the first time I've heard someone say use MORE lines.

>>1953899
when you know you've got something good why not show off a little

>>1953892
keep drawing those delicious nuggets

The mouth doesnt loo right. How to have stronger edges?

>>1953938
The values are all wrong on the mouth. Why is it so light inside the mouth? The top lip should be darker as it rolls in, then the inside of the mouth should be very dark. As for edges, paint with a more opaque brush or one with a different edge that isn't so harsh.The bits of jagged edges on each stroke and the places they overlap look messy.

>>1953946
Thanks for the tips, does the mouth look better?

>>1953612
Don't be afraid to use references, as a whole it looks like your guy is falling backward, like hes not planted on the ground.

The hand with the pistol, that is closer, shouldn't be smaller then the hand at his side.

>>1953938
Your necks are terribly thin, is it on purpose?

>>1953958
not really on purpose, kinda rushed it. It does make it look more cartoon like.

>>1953381
so i blurred the whole thing and then went back in and did lines. am i officially a professional now that i use the blur tools?

Just got a tablet. Not really sure what the hell to draw or how well I'm doing.

>>1953744

>beware_of_the_mudmans_revenge.jpeg

Made fixes after smoking a joint. Donno if its better. Whatever, Think I'll move on.

>>1953967
I drew a bunch of isometric shapes to get used to my pro. If you're using a cintiq or some such you might not need to.

>>1953981
Woke up and worked to clean it up a little bit. Still have a long ways to go.

I've been charged with doing several digital paintings for a thing. If I'm able to do it successfully, it could mean a lot for my career as an artist. I'm still learning though, I've only finished pretty much ONE full on digital painting before this, and I'm incredibly nervous about how well I can execute these pictures. How can I help keep myself from choking? I'm fucking scared, /ic/.

>>1954026
Plan everything out. This means thumbnails to figure out designs (if needed), composition, camera angle, poses, value grouping, lighting, color palette, etc.

Make like a dozen thumbs for your grayscale thumbs. Pick the best one and make a few color thumbs off of that. Then seek out references and make some preparatory sketches for anything that might be tricky. Then paint away.

Be sure to manage your time wisely. For each illustration you could spend around a fifth of the time doing all that planning stuff.

>>1954027
I guess I'll try to do some of that, I've never really worked that way before, and I have a really tight deadline on this. I've already turned in some thumbnails and because of the way they want the process to go, I can't really change the compositions much, but I will definitely do a color thumb for each of them. Thanks anon, I hope I can do this.

>>1954036
You definitely can. Do your color thumbs and look up any refs you might need - probably lighting refs at the very least. Spend a little bit of time finding useful refs, compile them all on one page and have that aside on your second monitor if you have one.

>>1954041
To add to this, if you get stuck look to what masters have done. Seriously, they've sold every problem you're going to run into so if you can find a similar work that helps (maybe a similar material, angle, shadow shape, color) then just go and steal the damn thing.

>>1954041
>>1954042
Yeah, I always forget the two cardinal rules of illustrating - reference saves lives, and I don't have to reinvent the wheel lol. I'm just nervous because there's sort of a lot riding on it, but I think this'll help me be more confident, and probably save time noodling colors trying to get stuff right.

>>1954044
but you can reinvent the wheel if you like. i mean remember it's only an analogy, you're not really building car parts, efficiency isn't the main thing.

plus, as a funny side note, some guy decided to make a car with square wheels, for fun, because it's so obviously stupid. and obviously they didn't work very well. but then he had an idea, try them off-road, in the mud. and in the mud square wheels actually worked very well indeed for a number of reasons.

so as much as you definitely can and are allowed to refer to other peoples stuff and the creative commons in general, remember that you're working in a creative field.

>>1954051
Yeah for sure, I think I'll save the experimenting for something a bit more low pressure though, heh.

>>1954052
i'm not really saying you need to like force yourself to experiment. just don't deny inspiration when it strikes

Opinions?

>>1954083
If you're trying for the effect of him turning to kick the POV, you'd have to zoom in.

>>1954084
Thx for the tip. Tried to get the effect by enlarging the main character. Is it better?

>>1954086
I was thinking you'd change the resolution but this is a much better fix.

Also it might just be me but there's something about his kicking leg that looks off, are you using a reference?

>>1953381

>>1954096
Parted lips are a bitch to paint/draw.

I'd also look over the uses again, the dimensions seem very skewed.

Any advice ?

>>1954095
No ref. Maybe that's why it doesn't look so anatomically coherent. On top of that it's foreshortened a bit.

>>1954101
What do you mean by "the uses"? Verticals/horizontals/angles?

>>1954110
not very sexy rendering for a pin-up, gotta make that skin smooth and buttery.

>>1954110
Her shoulders look unpurposely unaligned. And there are some minor propotion and anatomicall issues with the arms and ass, imo. However the colors are much better, really pretty stuff. Maybe use a cooler shadow on the ground though to simulate the she is outdoors.

>>1954114
I have no idea why I said uses, meant to say eyes. They seem a bit too high in addition to being not wide enough.

>>1954119
Ohh! Thanks :) I'm gonna continue when I'm back from grandma.

>>1954122
where's the penis?

>>1954115
Like this ?

>>1954126

I'm interested in developing my own style. I'd like to hear what you think does or doesn't work about this drawing.

>>1954135
nothing about it works because it's so boring you're eye grows another blind-spot to cover it as soon as you try to look at it.

>>1954135
his right arm is broken.

also i'm presuming this is some kid in a competitive race, he doesn't look all that determined though.

>>1954114
The nose is too long and the tip is angled incorrectly. It's throwing a lot of things off. Also, the plane on the right side of her nose is shaded too darkly, it's taking away from the softness of her face.

Otherwise decent values though. This just needs a little tweaking and it could be nice.

>>1954122
can correct and show my mistakes?

I'd love to get crit on improving realism in my portraits

How do you paint jet streams? Also critique pls

>>1954166

that'll be 10$ anon

>>1954166
you'd think a quick whip of dry-brush would do it, with maybe a bit of scumbling.

>>1954166
look at jets streams.

>>1954171
>>1954170
Thanks.

>>1954168
Yeah, on paper m8

apart from the feet, what else did I mess up?

>>1954181
Horns aren't even. You might want to make her right horn more angular so that both horns bend at roughly the same angle.

>>1954181
lacking in fundamentals, do more figure study then redraw it.

>>1954176
you should have thought about it before you laid the down the background wash. I don't know what its called but you paint it on the paper to protect it from the water color and peel it off afterwards.

You can also try some opaque paints.

>>1954192
it's called masking, as in masking tape. or sometimes masque (just mask in french) or frisket.

just fyi
(read: me being a know-it-all)

>>1954187
it's pretty good fundamentally. not the bestest ever but certainly not "don't even bother trying to draw stuff yet" tier.

i spy a parrot ~swarrrk~

>>1954181

>>1954200
>not the bestest ever but certainly not "don't even bother trying to draw stuff yet" tier

that is exactly what tier it is. get the fuck out of here with your celebration of mediocrity.

>>1954210

Baaaaaawwk

>>1954206
Nothing about this works. The pose screams of "I don't have any experience with form", the camera angle makes it even worse, and the proportions are all over the place. For the purposes of keeping it simple I won't go into value and color.

Perspective, gesture, simple geometrical shapes, proportion. Study those, in that order.

>>1953961
are you going for that really wonky broken anatomy on purpose?

>>1954110
that back arch wow

>>1954230
Would hang on the wall/10
I'd put more greens and yellows into the water though, just to differentiate it from the sky.

>>1954230

oversaturation of the ship kills it. rest is cool.

>>1953348
Thanks a lot anon!
does anyone else now another artist good at portraits?
i would like to get better at it

>>1953381
how make better?

>>1954110
Compare the distance between her wrist and knuckles on the left and right hand. Her left hand is tiny.

>>1954268
Dinosaurs/dragons don't drag their tail

>>1954110
Back is a little too curved. You might be able to grab the shoulders, arms, neck and head and shift them all to the left. Better yet I'd draw out the entire spine as a 3D form, then add in the ribcage and pelvis. Get that to look believable, then build on top.

>>1954268
composition is really boring
>magma fire breathinng lizard dragon thing?
>lets put it right there in the center not doing anything, just standing there
>oh and this thing is tamed by a sattle and some random guy with a spear he probably doesnt even fucking need, but lets throw it in anyway
>whats that town over there, a new city?
>nope, this rock looks pretty space fucking dandy
>lets take a selfie with my super fire dragon and me XOXOX

jesus christ, whats wrong with me

>>1954268
The dragon is cool, but I agree about the tail dragging.

A lot of your foreground rocks could use some polish around the edges.

I really dislike the dude. His helmet is strange and I don't understand how he can see through it. His pose is also incredibly static and boring. The dragon is reeling back, looking at the viewer with nice limb asymmetry. The guy in comparison is in the most stiff, non-reactive/interactive pose ever.

>>1954267
I dunno about specific artists, but you can go to artstation and sort by subject matter:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork?sorting=picks&medium=digital2d&category=characters

Trying to work on cities at night.
How do I make quick sketches look good when working on photoshop? I know it's all about fundamentals but it always look quite boring when I work with a round brush, unless i spend 3 hours on it that is.

>>1954314
Trying to work on cities at night.
How do I make quick sketches look good when working on photoshop? I know it's all about fundamentals but it always look quite boring when I work with a round brush, unless i spend 3 hours on it that is.

>>1954314
If it takes you 3 hours to make a drawing look good, then sit down for 3 hours and draw. Your quick sketch will not look as good as the sketch of a master that has spent years working on his craft.

Be patient, grab some snacks, put on some music or random low noise in the background and just draw.

Overtime, as your skills improve, a drawing that originally took you 5 hours will probably take you 1 to complete. Speed is something that builds with experience and visual knowledge.

finishing up a piece for csssa. i have to rush it cause my rec teacher is telling me to hurry up. critiques are really welcome

>>1954110
Better ?

any help with character/ creature design ?

>>1954344
The occlusion shadows are too dark, her cast shadow isn't consistent to the non-existant light source, her right arm and ear needs reference, the grass wouldn't strongly reflect green light, the background needs clarification unless there's a fairy dust cloud

>>1954342
Perspective, values, anatomy & things

I don't really draw much any more, I kind of lost my love for it a few years ago.

Still it's always fun looking back and seeing how much you've changed without even noticing that you had, i.e. 2007 v.s. right now.

Still afraid of hands tho. Good thing I treat this as a hobby and not a professional thing.

>>1954240
>>1954252
Thanks for the advice anons. Hope it looks somewhat better.

>>1954355
https://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
There's a ton of stuff here, but if you look through you'll probably find some categories that are relevant to your interests.

>>1953381
just some concept art... feel like this ideas been done to death though.

>>1954422

IS HIS NAME.......

BUZZSAW?

>>1954426
that's actually what i wrote to come up with it!

>>1954359
Regarding the non-existant light source is it better ?
I'm going to fix the ear and the arm next.

>>1954422
I keked. but just a kek

playing around in sai

Stuff I did today

>>1954437
Why would a submarine have air intakes?

Coming from a former submariner, that design makes no sense and irks my OCD. Try a smoother, more penis-like design.

another quick concept.

>>1954439
> submariner

>>1954433

>>1954444
Pride runs deep, fgt

>>1953381
Crit please. What should I focus on, that I'm missing?

>>1954486
life drawing. your drawing skills aren't there. you aren't capturing the things that make a person look unique. best to just focus on drawing from observation for now. any observational drawing would help you. buildings, plants, people. anything that you can get to stay still for a few hours.

>>1954486
>>1954490
Not just life/observational
drawing, study with a book by Vilppu, Hampton, or Loomis.

>>1954490
This.

Also, you can always zoom out and flip. Just zooming out to a thumbnail alone should make a lot of the mistakes here obvious. If it doesn't, then you definitely need to keep on studying.

>>1953381
too obvious? can someone point me to if this has been done before. seems like a pretty easy idea to come by.

>>1954498
>>1954499
>>1954490
Thanks.

Any thoughts?

>>1954515
nope

>>1954515
Why is that rogue making out with a dragon in front of a cave entrance?

more sai play. no ref

>>1954515
triple x dragon on human action baby

>>1954524
>no ref
It shows. Get some ref and keep working on it.

>>1954522
>>1954525

Yeah, I dunno, maybe this helps a little.

>>1954534
Cropped too closely to the bottom, give them some room I would say

>>1953968
wut

>>1953381

I decided to render it more. Think it's better

>>1954563
Draw more nigresses please.

>>1954564
>hfw she sees your dick

>>1954564
damn nigga this is muddy, clean that shit up.

>>1954410
you might wanna add a shadow under that red figure in the midground, and i think you could add some stuff in the background on the right to give it more depth.
Good job tho.

>>1954564
Meant to do just a quick redline, but somehow got carried away. The biggest issues you have with the drawing are proportions (eyes are far apart for example), and lack of clarity in what you're trying to convey. I assume you're going for a surprised, small gasp kinda look, but I'm not sure. There are also some structural problems, like the chin being a bit pointy and the size of the cranium being ambiguous under that helmet hair. You should definitely seek some refs that match the expression you want, or use your own face and a mirror if you have to. You can always tweak proportions and structure to match the gender and ethnicity you're going for.

>>1954696
why is hair red? why are pupils red? if that's a pun on "redline", pls kill yourself.

Did this for a friend for his RPG maker kind of start drawing with my new pad, i dont know how to do effect and shit really want to learn more

Alright I'm back, taking what you guys/girls told me . I hopefully taking steps in the right direction.

>>1953381

>>1953439
Wrong.

>>1953442
Composition is also about the arrangement of elements and how you direct the eye. Value arrangements are part of that. Ignore the retard.

>>1954796

>>1954800

>>1954802

>>1954803

>>1954804
WIP

>>1953848
You really cant see the lifeboat implying that the guy came from the wreck at see?

>>1954374
Just draw hands anon. Its really not to harf after about 20 of them.

>>1954830
hands will always be harf

>>1954502
i dont think its too obvious

>>1954796
>>1954800
>>1954802
>>1954803
>>1954804
>>1954806
keep it up, be mindful of your proportions

>>1954502
I don't know who you are but I see you posting here all the time and I just wanted to say that I fucking love your style

Russian captured the board

>>1954880
where are the tracksuits bylat?

>>1953406
before i read this post my literal thought was "ive seen all of these somewhere before wtf." doesnt mean they wont make good studies though

>>1954141
Not sure if I fixed everything, but I'll move on to do more studies :)
Thanks for the help.

>>1954157
Check Proko's tutorial on drawing hair.

>>1953957
is this the big boobed chick from durarara

>>1954959
this one is pretty cool compared to the others anon.

trying to get lvlup with rendering... I think, that u should buy cube, sphere etc. one way only...

>>1955044
рэндэринг не только cоотношение cветотени, почитай про edges

>>1955054

source pls :3

>>1954486
why aren't you drawing that ugly flap?

iv been looking at alot of Ukiyo-e style woodblock prints lately. thoughts?

>>1953756
bring a small sketchbook around with you.
ask yourself during your daily tasks "can i just stop and draw this idea right here right now" you will find that you probably do have the spare 5 min here and there, draw on the go. it will make you more pumped to resolve ideas at the end of the working or studying day.

>>1953828
finish it fggt.

>>1955056
хз где тебе найти на руccком, в книжке alla prima richard schmid 90~ая cтраница, и ещё трэд на концепарте.орг еcть про это, проcто поищи conceptart edges.

Короче работаешь киcтями, в cвету cтавишь хард раунд браш мазки, в тенях убераешь чуток харднеcc и cтавишь мазок по мягче.

Material study work in progress

>>1955056

tnx, bro.

>>1953887
watch this ASAP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJf4e5kAKWg

>>1954760
you are retarded.
purposfull or not the new red/brown hue is actualy better and more fun to look at.
>jelly fag detected

where to go from here.
colour?
tidy up?

Why do I suck so much shit? Everytime I do something I either get this dull washed out look or some retarded contrast that looks shit.

>>1955078
>hurr durr u jelly

>>1955084
>damage control activated.
as long as you know that you were incorrect, i will let the whole jelly scandle slide
>the only thing you brought me up on.

>>1955079
Idk how to answer your question but use more water dude. Some of your strokes have that painful dry look to them.

Also, I know this is supposed to be asianesque but it looks more Celtic, like something Tolkien would do. I like it

>>1955089
more water, got ya, i shall do another landscape with this in mind. thank you.

>>1955068
Hit my time limit on this, what do you think?

>>1955093

Did you actually paint at that resolution?

>>1955081
Fundies man I swear. Learn them and you can do anything w enough studies. Makes you feel like a god

>>1955094
I brought it down in size to 72dpi

>>1955088
how am i incorrect? red hair is ok, she could have dyed them, but they should at least have darker shadows in places. and it wasn't part of original design.
red eyes are just stupid, obviously the original artist didn't intend to draw a vampire. a redline that isn't true to original is just some guy drawing his own thing, not a redline.
and don't even get me started on that shitty excuse of a neck.
even if it does look better, he made it more stupid. and discarded the original intent.

>>1955079
added some colour digitally.

>>1955101
every portion of the drawing is better in the red (draw) than in the original.
every aspect has been fixed.
and in certian lighting. yes . eyes and other facial features can have a red glow to them.

the original was horrible.

and im starting to think you are the originals artist with all your butthurt faggotry defending it.

stop defending a piece of shit and learn to accept that a red line no matter how better even if it was just by a little bit, should be thanked.

>>1954564
this is very ugly.

>>1955108
i'm starting to think you are the redline artist. what irony calling me butthurt when you're the one who's butthurt.

>>1955112
nope. im not.
mate.
the fact is. orginal drawing was a shit stain upon this thread.
and the "red draw" (yes. that motherfucker had to RE-PAINT IT to fix that turn of a drawing) was much better and would have showed the original bro what he was doing wrong and what he should be striving for.

end.

>>1955116
>fix that turn of a drawing
pardon me i ment to say;
that TURD of a drawing

>>1954267
Thanks!
Most of them paint from reference though

>>1955116
i'm not the original artist either.
mate(?).
are you trying to say that redline is not wrong? there are plenty things wrong with it, some of which i pointed out and you went berserk on me (i still think you're the one who did redline).

>>1955110
like your mom.

>>1954771
Colors are off, the shadows look more blue/violet toned. Try color balance and slide the shadows tab a few steps in blue.

>>1955130
the red line in not perfect. no.
but it IS a HUGE AMMOUNT better than the original.

it should help the original artist improve greatly.

and im not the red line guy, seriously im not. im not that good, but even i can see that it is far better of a painting whilst still catering to the original anon that asked for help.

>>1955130
yes. it is ugly.

>>1955154
your mom is "it"? i'm sorry.

kill me pls

>>1955167
no. both.
the mother and the artwork
this artwork :>>1954564
It is ugly, i would redline, but it looks as if the artist is here for attention and not for critique.

>>1955168
the textures are great, but im getting a wobbely uneasy feeling towards the left of the painting.

>>1955095

You know what, man? You're right, I'm dumping that shit and doing some reference studies.

http://youtu.be/YaJLVh2NOqc

>>1955168
>>1955172
It's wobbly because the perspective is off, unless you want to try a lens distortion effect in which case you should apply it to the right side too.

>>1954959
this isnt as shitty as the others gj. now try something with neat lighting maybe

>>1955093
the neck looks fucking stick thin, if an actual person had a neck like that they couldnt support their head. check the fingers, they look a bit off as well. left hand side shoulder looks too prolonged to be viewed from this angle. otherwise amazing work on the armor

>>1955093
where's the light source?

>>1955190
>>1955172

Thanks guys, I'll look into it.
It's probably the foreground that fucks it up since I used a 3D base for the rest

>>1955130
>"im not the original artist"

>gets offended when someone says that picture is ugly (it is btw and the redline guy did a great job improving it)

You are the one who is butthurt about his drawing not being as good as he thought it was.
Redline dude just wanted to help you, you stupid fucker and if you don't appreciate help from people who are OBVIOUSLY better than you then leave this fucking place and go to deviantart where 12 year olds will compliment you on your "skills".

>>1955196

the scale doesn't read at all. that's your biggest issue.

>>1955198
can you shut the fuck up please and stop the shitposting train already

>>1953847
something-woman?

Im assuming its sushi. I know chink, not jap.

>>1955216

Yep, it's sushi.

>>1955202
>the artist.

>>1955202
>thinking its one anon at him.

>>1955221
nope just dropping in because this is a draw thread and you fucks are more interested in passive-aggressive foreplay

>>1955223
post a drawing then anon.

>>1955224
im not working on anything atm, but just for you anon-chan

Hello /ic/ this is my work in progress, oil over canvas. Opinions?

>>1955239
Someone should make a macro of all the paintings made from this picture.

>>1955245
>Someone should paint a macro of all the paintings made from this picture.

>>1955253
That's... a cool idea actually, I'd definitely be surprised, to say the least, if anyone would manage to pull it off.

>>1955245
>>1955253
>>1955257
Sorry, never saw another before. could you post examples please?

gimme some crits please

>>1955273
Horrible brushwork. Lasso and poly selection are ur friends.

>>1955276
You don't need lasso and all that fake bullshit to have decent strokes.

>>1955276
>brushwork
Can you elaborate more on that?

>>1955276
By that do you mean how messy all my lines are? Should I be varying brush size and shape? What specifically? How do I improve my strokes?

I know nothing about lasso and poly selection, so some info on that would be helpful if you think I need it.

Be as harsh as you feel, but be specific.

>>1955301
this is so boring holy shit

Question
is there such a thing as composition in a portrait

>>1955291
What I meant is that edges on everything are extremely messy. There are couple of ways to fix that

a) use lasso selection to control your brush better
b) work on multiple layers (which you should be doing anyway) and erase out
c) be autistic retard and spend 10 hours fixing everything just by hand and brush

"Basic rendering in Photoshop" by CtrlPaint goes in depth about the techniques, I'd recommend watching that.

>>1955306
yes

>>1955312
can you explain that a bit more?
how do you arrange elements when there is just one element?
does any of the portraits in this thread have a good composition?

>>1955273

>>1955317
Bump limit reached

>>1955316
Composition isn't really just about objects, it's about shapes and colors and the place they take on the picture.

>>1955310
>>1955317
Thank you wonderful anons :)

New thread:
>>1955368
>>1955368

>>1954696
This reply is late, I was away from my computer. But this helps A LOT. Thanks so much. Your image definitely captures the expression much better.

>>1955937
>>1955317
Nice post anon.

>>1953381

yeah i just drew something, what do yall think?

Do you know if you can connect to the IRC through Hexchat? Or does it have to go through rizon?

>>1957774

new sketch, (ignore the filename, i am to lazy to rename them and just let sketchbook pro auto number the saved files as a new higher number like 1,2,3,4, or 34,35,36,37, thats just how sketchbook pro auto saves)

also am i just so good no one has anything to say? lol, im just joking i know im not that good yet

but i will be

i will be...

>>1958559

is this a dead thread? should i post in the other one?

>>1958559
>>1958653

woops, forgot pic