/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1948378
Got a tumblr, OP?

>>1948382
Technically yes but there's nothing there. I'll post a link in the self promotion thread when I start finishing the dozen WIPs I keep putting off.

>>1948378
this to all my trap niggas gettin stereotyped cause they got black pupils

>>1948391
and heres a constellation thing i thought of like a year ago

>>1948389
Do you post your WIPs anywhere other than /ic/? Your work (if you are the one usually starting these) is very interesting.

Hey guys, I did this sketch and would love if someone could tell me what is wrong with it, I used a ref for the general pose and folds but did not intend to follow it exactly.

I intend to color it as soon as you guys can help me get the lineart good.

>>1948400

and here is the ref

>>1948400
Eyes are too near to each other.

>>1948395
Thanks! I have started a good portion of the recent draw threads. Haven't posted anywhere other than here for the past while. Was on permanoobs for about a week when it started.

>>1948400
The eye is also off angle, it should be curving down with the flow of her face. See the reference. The nose is also the wrong shape and size. I know you're not following the ref exactly, but the nose you've got looks weird to me. The eye issue is very pressing though.

>>1948400
Ditch chicken scratch shading and line work. Lines won't get better by doing mor line on op but by erasing the line do a new better one. Also go for fluid lines, especialy with folds

do you think he deserves it? the ultimate punishment? is it too late to save him?

>>1948431
Such an unpleasant thing to want to draw. I like your style. Not your artistic style... but I like your style.

>>1948436

Well as long as you like one of my styles then that is good enough for me. Maybe if I showed you my hair style or my clothing style i could win you over enough to come to like my artistic style

>>1948439
Good post, I like your style.

>>1948413
>>1948420
>>1948422


thanks for the feedback, I tried to fix the eyes and nose.

someone should start a sketchbook thread.

>>1948416
Alright. Well, I love your work, anon. Keep at it.

>>1948400
>>1948402
>>1948443
>woman in red

She's wearing yellow

>>1948450
go ahead.

>>1948463

clearly I am talking about the scarf

>>1948378

It's supposed to be cartoon-y but I do realized I fucked up something hellish on the torso..also the spelling error was accidental..because its 4am..but it seemed to fit what I was going for anyway.

I'm happy with it, but is there anything else I could have done to this/something better I could have done?

Please keep it constructive, I don't need a "This sucks" with nothing behind it. Thank you

>>1948510
read the sticky, and also locate our special "beginners" thread.

>>1948416

mind sharing your permanoobs name so i can have a closer look? curious as fuck over here

color color color

>>1948607
ref

Don't know how to continue.
And don't get me started on coloration.

Any suggestions?

>>1948614
the mouth of the yellow one looks like a gaping asshole

>>1948618
let's say it was my intension

>>1948378
looks dope. are these drawings for anything in particular?
>>1947637
just updated it a bit. cropped out distracting bits.hows my commoner girl?

>>1948643
That's pretty good. What facial expression is she making?

>>1948615
Clean up your lines, first.

Slowly starting to mess around with studies.

Leyendecker's piece, 1:30 hours in, not finished.

It's turning out way too dark and the eyes are wonky, ref incoming.

>>1948690

>>1948690
Well, there are some good things going on in there but use more saturation, more reds and red-yellows, it looks way desaturated right now.
and check your proportion, length into width, width into length, it seems your width is too wide.

>>1948690
proportions anon, before you do any painting. you made his face really wide/fat. i noticed it right away because i have the same problem and it probably came from drawing anime.
easy to fix with selective transform.

>>1948690

>themudmanchronicles.jpeg

>>1948697
>>1948701
Nice feedback, yeah, saturation is my kryptonite, everything always comes out muddy as shit. Will work on that.

>>1948716
are you sure your monitor is set up correctly?

>>1948718

It shouldn't matter to him if both the reference and his study are displayed on the same monitor.

>>1948443
now the mouth looks out of place since you fixed the eyes and the nose. + i dont think you could see the nostril on the left side of her face from that angle so you might want to look into that as well

>>1948690
Keep a black and white layer on your work and on the ref, that should allow you to check the values whenever you need and you can hide it when you want to focus on color. Right now it's very muddy. And don't forget that value always comes first. Once you get your value right it's much harder to fuck up.

How to control your values when working directly with color ?
I started directly with color and then applied a b&w filter to see if my values were doing ok,and then i saw that they were not. Is there a better/different approach that would help me control my values while working directly with colors ?

>>1948744
Sorry wrong image

>>1948607
>>1948608
okay suddenly this became a bit easier

Anyone know my ref?

>>1948777
waaay better than before.
If you work on the wrinkle of the right side of her mouth (and her right cheek in general) + make her chin a bit more pointy, it will look even better i think.

>>1948744
>Is there a better/different approach that would help me control my values while working directly with colors ?

Not really. You just have to be conscious of it and check the values in grayscale as often as necessary. Make it a habit just like flipping the canvas should be a habit, that way you won't suddenly figure out the values are off after having worked on it for a long period of time already. Either that, or work out the value structure beforehand in a thumbnail.

Other than my anatomy, is there anything else I should try to work on?

>>1948798
How the fuck did I forget the picture?

>>1948799
Also something semi-realistic I tried to work on. I wanted to post something realistic, but I don't have anything saved like that.

>>1948800
you got to be shitting me.

>>1948378
Started drawing this, and I know it's wrong, but I'm having trouble fixing it at all
Do I have to start over?

>>1948728

tried to fix this, going to go to painting this now.

>>1948828
>Do I have to start over?
You don't have to, but you'll be missing out on delicious mileage if you don't.

And you need mileage.

You know though.
Scrap that idea.

Don't redraw her.
Draw simple shapes that make her up first. Be as correct and design-ey as you can.

Then draw her over it.

You are going too fast, after all. concerning yourself with things that are not in your skillset yet.
Master the simple forms and the complex ones will follow. Seriously.

>>1948870
Alright. Shapes it is.
Thank you Anon

>>1948643
>looks dope. are these drawings for anything in particular?
Thanks. I'm just trying to make some new portfolio pieces.

>>1948870
Resketched. Thoughts?

>>1948887
Bon of a sitch

>>1948889
Think in boxes. Using boxes or even cilinders instead of spheres will give you a better sense of depth

>>1948903
I've never done that before, and I don't think I know how.
It's kind of scary.

>>1948889
>>1948903

>>1948913
That actually explains what I need to do
Alright, one more time.

>>1948910
Increase your dose of Vilppu son

>>1948903
>>1948913
>>1948916
Please post right

Can I please get some criticism? I opted between shitposting about loomis to get attention or asking nicely, I've been ignored so many times, come on pleople.

I'm not sure where to go from here.

>>1948976
Shrink it down, first of all.

>>1949002
Here you go

>>1948950
You're getting there.

Draw it again, perhaps ten more times.
Always keeping in mind some basic proportions like thighs being as long as calves and so on.

You'll be surprised how awesome your tenth iteration will look compared to your first few.

And it's great that you are actually redrawing and redoing it.
you're definetely gonna make it with that kind of mindset/ethics.

guaranteed.

>>1948950
>>1949045
And when you're redrawing it.
Try to not break or squash the boxes.
Try to keep them as boxy as possible.

Yes, that 'might' make it look more rigid, but it will also most definetely make it more 3d and voluminous.

Not to mention it will also train your box drawing skills, and boxes are a fundamental particle in drawing.

>>1949048
Like this.

Only, don't get too greedy too quickly and abandon the humble boxes the moment you've made something nice from them.

Even professionals drill fundamentals regularily.

>>1949053
like this?

>>1949053
Master the regular box first until you cand draw them accuratly with confidence from any angle and in any size first.

Sure, do drawings like I am posting as well, but only so you don't get completely bored out of your mind.

Practice your fundamentals like boxes thoroughly since they are the base of everything else and if the base is good, the rest will be good too.

>>1949055
That's going too far again.

The legs are messed u, by the way.
As are the fingers.
Look how squashed and anemic they are.
The only really good thing is the head.
The rest still looks unsure and weak.

You will do better than that.

>>1949056
and some more Bridgman.

Whom I consider one of the best sources to learn from even though it's from 3973234 centuries ago.

The way he simplifies the head made things click more for me than Loomis or even Hampton, and those are really good.

Skulls for studies.

>>1949062

>>1948678
the one a person would make while considering a difficult decision, i guess

>>1949059
Again, don't give into temptation to draw fancy yet.
You'll be able to indulge in that soon enough.

Focus on well drawn, simple boxes for a while for now.
Don't squash them, don't break them, make them as boxy and rigid as possible.

It will only take one week of practice for that shit to carry you through for the rest of your life.

I'm trying to go full Mike Azevedo here, any tips? How can I generate more depth here? I'm working on the head the rest of the body is unfinished.

>>1949069

I'm from this guy's class, we were asked to do a wooden character, what do you guys think? How can I easily improve this?

>>1949078
by making it look like an actual wood. where da fuck did you find blue wood?

>>1949069
how the fuck did you put so much detail on the head? what's the actual size?

>>1949078
You're going to wanna add a bit of texture, or some sheen if you want it to look like polished wood. Also probably want to give it a more organic pattern, doesn't really read as wood grain at the moment.

>>1949082

Original size is always 2500-2800 then I alter it with the cut tool, try to work bigger first, only resize the image for when you're done and you're going to upload it

>>1948998
You're not planning on selling it or sticking it into a portfolio are you? If not then don't over think it, just finish it and when you're done look at it and think of how it could be improved, then draw something else.

>>1949084
Also push the lighting, those flames should be casting warm hues all over the top of the head, not just the cheeks, nose and forehead. Could also increase the intensity of the light being cast by the grasshopper and increase the contrast. Might also try making the fog a bit soupier.

Still not right
Will continue to sketch out

>>1949120
>>1949084

Thanks! Will do

>>1949123
Keep at it dude, and if you haven't yet get the Loomis books from the sticky and practice his head-length grid method, will help you grasp the proportions.

>>1949130
My pleasure, and please share when you're finished, it's looking nice already.

not ready to line yet, am I?

Image is probably sideways because I'm uploading from my phone, but I'm drawing the dorm building next to mine. Penciled outside. Inking in my room

>>1949141
Looking at the photo, I wish I'd corrected the lines w my t sqaure. The texture on the glass is all wrong. Don't know how to do that w pen and ink..

>>1949141
I like it, very nice. You do this stuff often?

>>1949144
Drawing buildings/landscapes? Not really, but I plan to change that. I mostly draw the human figure/portraits, but suck at it

I'm really confident about this one
Hit me

critique me pls

Trying to get out of my habbit of only doing line drawings.

Anything in particular that sticks out?
Is the location and mood readable?

Always curious to hear about the figure itself, since whenever I don't draw them to fill out the canvas, they tend to turn out shit.

>>1949185
Put the airbrush away.

>>1949172

Real french girls have curves.

>>1949187
Also, here is how it progressed, incase anyone is interested if I lost something during the iterations.

Decent start? Tried to take some earlier advice on slowing down on the stippling, it's still a bit sloppy though.

>>1949172

You are just drawing box-men. Drawing exercises are pointless unless you understand the point of the exercises.

You draw boxes like this because it`s easier to see how perspective affects the angle of a box figure, but you aren`t drawing your boxes correctly. You are twisting and distorting them to make the figure look like a box-man.

Draw a simple box at as many different angles and sizes as possible so you can understand the basic geometry behind a mere box. Then construct a figure using only boxes and pay attention on the angle of each box in the figure, because understanding the angle of each box in the figure is the very point of the exercise.

I already posted this on the previous thread, but could someone criticize?

>>1949185

>attackofthemudprincess.jpeg

Ok so...

I finished inking and scanning this...

I think there's something wrong about this.

>>1949242
its just shitty thats all

>>1948400
Check nose and mouth angle. The right side of the nose and mouth need to be a bit higher so it makes sense with the angle.

>>1948615
Chest too wide, head and feet to small. Head looks like it's sliding to her right.

>>1949242

I like it.

last few drawings from my Respawn Vol. 2 album

>>1949255
this ones called Outlet

>>1949256
this ones called Bedtime

>>1949258
this ones called Self Portrait

>>1949260
this is the last drawing of the album. its called Good Guess

>>1948976
The proportions and angles seem to be a bit off. The head looks a bit flat towards the back. Also her right eye looks like its at a weird angle. Her hand is too small imo.

>>1948976
The necklace isn't centered. It looks like her left side of her torso is flat, from the way her necklace falls.

Thinking of calling this one done. Thoughts?

>>1949261
>>1949260
>>1949258
>>1949256
>>1949255
Brian you are an absolute madman!!! hahahah!!!

>>1949269
a lot of those are saved up over the last year and a half. as of right now I've got a clean slate and have to start thinking of stuff for Vol. 3 over the next couple years

>>1949261
>>1949272
next time put the all into one post k?

>>1949268
It's good but it lacks punch as an illustration. It feels like a study of a fine art painting done by an illustrator.
For instance the hand kind of pops out because of value contrast and how central it is, but it's just there, doing nothing really, nor being impressively rendered. If you don't have a detailed face you got to have something else detailed to make up for it.
Also there's this kind odd empty white space which effectively cuts the dog out from the rest of the painting.

>>1948378

Really crappy at anatomy anon signing in..just came here to share, tear me apart if you wish

>>1949268
scenic, pretty good painting skills but overall a boring picture

>>1949268
I like this but why is he cropped weirdly at the top? that's a weird ass tangent

300 study

So I finally watched the Sycra "How to Choose Colors that Work" video and I loved it and it makes a lot of sense to me. However, I'm using CS2 which doesn't have the same color wheel functionality as the newer version he was using. I'd like to practice using the technique, I'm just wondering if anyone has some tips to help me wrap my head around applying it to using the color picker in old versions, where you can't draw direct lines to opposite colors and sort of compare them the same way?

>>1949188
>>1949185
don't listen to this guy, airbrush is lovely for blending. What yall need to do is simply tone it down. I like her butt

heres what I did:
>I felt the border was too tight, so I expanded it
>fixed a few perspective issues
>added some blue hues in her face reflected from her clothing
>some of the lighting didn't make sense, I hope you can understand where i'm coming from here. I tried to improve it a bit for you

these are just suggestions, I'm not trying to dictate how you do your piece. I hope this helps , the reason I bothered is because I really like where it is going

>>1949329
do yourself a favour and download ps CC, honestly. This is 2k15! unless you have capped internet, then I feel for you greatly

>>1949335
Yeah, I have access to newer versions but I'm a little wary of whether my comp can handle them - it hasn't been doing well lately, I'm probably going to have to get a new one or something soon. My mom has an extra copy of CS5 but I wanted to save it for a good comp, not one I may be replacing soon.
Though it just occurred to me while looking at my post that I could just use a color wheel like this, actually, couldn't I? If I pick any given local color, I can see where it falls on this wheel and then determine how limited its saturation should be, just using the square one he showed instead of the triangle one. At least I think that should work. If that's the case I feel simultaneously smart and really stupid lol.

Did this with ballpoint pen and skipped the pencil so you can see my planning marks.

>>1949341
Reference: >>1942971

>>1949341
Reference from >>1942971
God, I just noticed a hair in my scan.

>>1949338
oh man, that sucks, I didn't even take into account computer guts. I say go for it

>>1949078
Your composition is terrible, anon. wish you had at least a bit of sense in it for your piece would be much better.

>>1949344
Cool, I'm gonna try it out on painting some apples. The more I think about it, the more I think I see how to translate it. Even if my base color is some weird in between thing like brown or olive green or something, the color picker still shows what area of pure hue that falls under, so I can still use that to find how close the other hue range is and how saturated it needs to be. I hope this works. I guess it'll require a little more thinking but that's just as well since I completely suck at color. I'll post results.

>>1949078
Wow I must be the only person here who really likes this. I like that the wood grain pattern is graphic and whimsical, I like that it's blue and I love how the orange looks against it. The only thing I would change to make it look more finished is to have the orange light affecting other areas around it more. Like maybe the cheek and nose, not the whole thing but like half, and the shoulder, because it looks like it's a pretty strong light source. Also I think the composition's nice, but I'd maybe bump the pelvis forward a bit more & curve the back to keep the rhythm going. Really nice, though.

>>1949195
looks like you could afford to be more self-assured and confident with your detailed line work, but its a great start. Keep it up.

>>1949195
I know it might be a bit too late to say this, I think your hand could be a little bigger, but your detail work is pretty nice so far.

>>1949329
It's not his version of Photoshop, he has a third-party plugin (though it only works with CS5 and above) http://www.coolorus.com/

You don't really need it though; just download a good color wheel image and pick from that, and eventually you'll be able to select the right color from the normal picker.

>>1948378

does it tell a good story? or too many distracting visual elements (candle, book thing, painting) ?

>>1949341
Look at what you're drawing more closely, you are symbol drawing. If you haven't already, read the sticky and then go through the recommended books.

>>1949462
>story
no

stories have beginnings middles and ends.

>>1949462
The setting is unclear, and that pentagram detracts so much from the previous version. There's telling a study then there's hitting people over the head with random symbolism. Give the viewer room to interpret the story their way - ambiguity is great in a painting.

Before there was suspense: was the man with the gun the good guy or the bad guy. Did you know what was behind that door. Did whoever was behind that door know he was coming? Now all of that is confused with this pentagram that detracts greatly IMO.

Finish this drawing a few days ago. Ballpoint on Moleskine

>>1949470
I really like how you did the whole myspace angle photo thing, real tumblr-esq

AaaajajajJajaja

>>1949470
i fucking hate this instagram trend to include the working tool in with a photograph of the work.
fuck.
and that tilt to the photo.
>hurr durr i did this in a moelelelelioskine
scan the drawing
crop it
NO TILT.
dont distract the viewer from your inability to draw hands by putting the shitty bic you used in the final display.

nothing can rest this rage i feel towards faggets like you.

fuck.
i bet you have an instagram too.

>2448x2448
and now i just see this.
FUCK YOU.
READ THE FUCKING RULES!

>>1949465

tssss you know what i mean

>>1949466

think you are right... it's a bit in-your-face and cliche... and all the storytelling and narrative arguments aside it's simply a much stronger illustration without it.

>>1949470
AND LEARN TO FLIP YOUR FUCKING SHITTY PHOTOS PROPERLY!

>>1949470
>Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.

faggets like this is why cancer exists.

>>1949493
This might be beyound my knowledge of how things work but isnt the shadow too high on the door? Like as far back as the railing suggest we are wouldn't the man be in the piece?

Whats the light source coming from?

>>1949501

no you are absolutely right. judging by the crispness of the border of the shadow and it's size the guy would be in the image. but it's one of those cases where you have to bend the rules a little.

i drew my friend as a taco. i gave him anime eyes

>>1949464
Could you point out where I'm symbol drawing? I suspect it's cause I didn't quite get the eyes right, but this drawing wasn't meant to be in depth.

>>1949172
>I'm really confident about this one
>Hit me
Not boxy enough.

Draw the boxes straight and boxy.
Don't warp them. Don't stop redrawing this thing until you have boxes that describe a figure. Boxes, and only boxes.
No wedges. Boxy boxes and rectangles.
With straight, unbending lines.

Practicing shading on faces... pardon the subject matter. Been on a Majora's Mask theme in the wake of the upcoming release.

Feels like the brow is off.. and something else I can't quite put my finger on. Anything someone may be able to point out?

>>1948777
>>1948788
gotcha

>>1949608

>themudgirlstrikesback.jpeg

>>1949611
Stop making these terrible jokes

Lurked around the ref thread and ventured out of the comfort zone. Decided to stop by the draw thread since I didnt intentionally animu today
> 1, 2 did some old dudes. Got some problems with head sizes and budgeting paper space - skipped the best part and scribbled the dicks
> 3, 4 tried some drapery I guess... This needs to be studied some more
> 5 trying to put it all together, I might go back and color it

Gonna try to solve drapery this week

Alright I messed around with the Sycra color technique with my weird adaptation. I've tried to follow it as best I could with color choices, how am I doing?
>>1949613
Man these are awesome, so lively. The shoulders seem a little off to me on a couple, may be something to double check and potentially look out for in future stuff.

Had to take a break, mostly fixing shapes and the details. Might be done later this evening.

halp

>>1948443
I hope you can understand something from this clusterfuck of redline.

Download and read "Charles Bargue And Jean Leon Gerome Drawing Course"
There is short instruction how to draw plates from book, and then just draw from the book as it will go progressively more harder. They explain in book much better than me.

>>1949640
pls die so I can feel good

>>1949653
this is quality tip.

>>1949663
boring color wise.
render nice

>>1948787
>?

>>1949663

photo paintover.

>>1949326
KEEP IT 300
LIKE THE ROMANS

>>1949462
>theres a demon behind this door
>better kill it with my .9 handgun

what the fuck man

>>1949470
fixed

filename

>>1949700
It looks like a jewish assassins creed multiplayer character, lol

filename

I'm kinda lost at the moment. Not sure how to continue the drawing right now.

Any ideas? I guess I need to redefine the tights.
It's a space suit btw.

>>1948875
saw this on the last thread, it better, but not enough contrast in the greys, its boring even if it is perfect

>>1949078
love it

>>1949242
its fucken great, but feels creepy for some reason. but fuck its perfect

Critique me, /ic/ overlords

>>1949268
nice

>>1949640
i never thought it could get better from the last thread but fuck, i love it

>>1949663

YES! the contrast and idea and everything is perfect! i love it!

>>1949760
Try drawing a skeleton inside the space suit, then wrap the suit around the skeleton how you think it should fit.

>>1949800
Well the drawing started with two reference pictures whose skeleton I drew and then started to outline the suit.

I think the lack of proper shadow directions made it a lot less shapely, I think it's a tad better now.
Any further suggestions?

I just started drawing very recently, this is like the second drawing I'm doing and it's really fun but I'm kinda clueless on how to progress.

>>1949802
Couple small tips.

Flip your drawings, so mirror it in photoshop and make sure everything looks fairly symmetrical.

Pick a light source and add it to the scene, even if it's just a place holder dot and cast your light from that point and dont be afraid of sharp highlights. Your values seem to be very low contrast, try adding more light and dark areas in the appropriate spot. Having a definite light source will help you in adding more variation to your values.

Opinions?

>>1949824
Thanks, I'll try that.

After some pause and scrutiny I think the right leg is the main culprit of it looking so off, it's smaller than it should be for the step it's taking and the light on it.

I'll work on the contrast too.

Thanks a lot anon!

At this point I don't even anymore.

Does she look like she belongs in this kind of light setting? It looks so monochrome, but actually I was going for a blue-tinted nighttime setting.

>>1949619
Could I please get some feedback on this?
You guys have been telling me to learn color properly and I'm trying but I don't want to try to rely on my own frame of reference to see if I'm doing it right this early on.
>>1949640
This is just great, is there anywhere I could follow you?

>>1949838
You should go for a more loose approach to your stuff, seems like you focus on it being neat and tight everywhere way too soon. Try to go mad with the brush and place down ideas before perfecting the shape and form. That woman should'nt be more than 10 brushstrokes in this stage in my opinion. You can still get that clean teenage look by cleaning it up afterwards. It'll look way more dynamic and free this way, and you'lllearn faster.

That feel

>>1949838
To make a night scene:

Crush all your shadows and bring all light values into lower midtone. Voila!

>>1949847

I'm laughing so hard.

>>1949838
It just looks like daytime except blue

>>1949847
That's the gayest funniest shit I have seen, you faggot

>>1949585
Same anon..still no critiques? or did I just post it at a dead time?

>>1949608
Muddy colors usually occur because of incorrect values. Try converting the ref image to b&w before you start next time.

Recent Wips, a remake of the neo-samurai gal from some time ago, and a Ratkin incinerator

I need help, /ic/, I always have huge problems with that area [only with clothes on, I have no problems when it's nude drawing], where can I find some uhh clothed hip area references?

>>1949825
All of those mold spore things are coming out from his silhouette - none are really starting from the interior shapes so it doesn't look very believable in that regard. The feet and hand look kinda cartoony, and it also looks like he's wearing pants but not.

Need critique

>>1949868
the rimlight seems uninformed on the left
you really have to consider the surfaces that would directly reflect light to the viewer's eyes, instead of just where light hits the form. The right is alright because it implies ambient light

Can I get a critique on this? I've been studying James Gurney's book about light and trying to work it into my paintings. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>>1948378
I'm trying to work out a composition but I fail. How do I improve this?

Can some one tell me what i'm doing wrong btw not my background just using a filler until i finish

Something about this feels off.
I don't know if the proportions, the position of the head, everything, something.

Can someone enlighten me?

>>1949909
The colors are pretty bad, might want to do b&w first when studying light

Quick study

>>1949953
you rendered her expression really well but her dress ended up with pretty flat values

Some gestures.

Traditional pen / pencil / coloured pencil & marker
I'm in a progressive rut, and could really use some fuel.

Damn it /ic/, every time I REALLY need help you completely ignore me.

>>1949783
Thanks!

I've been slowing down as of recently. But I could use some critic on this before I finish it up, also is it any bit scary?

>>1949953
I like everything but the face, it is too overworked.


Like you zoomed in. You could easily loosen it up to maintain cohesion. Look at the refference, how did he handle it? Probably in a much cleaner way. You can retry again and again, it's digital after all.

>>1949965
You have no idea what you're talking about. A clean value grouping is ideal.

I'm stuck

>>1949947
Bad in what way? Are they too saturated? Or did I just choose bad color combos?

>>1949982
It's a cute scary more so than outright scary, imo

>>1949972
i suggest this to a lot to people on /ic/, but try ruining your drawings. your concepts just aren't there and your ideas are barely legible. but you are just drawing random imagery so that's forgivable on some level.

This shouldn't be a finished piece. You are doing abstract drawing in imagery but not in technique or application of materials. Have some bravery. Put a big fat black line through the whole thing. You could cover parts of it with marker so what was left of the imagery is only partially legible.

If you aren't going to write out your ideas and make sure they are coherent, at least be interesting in your incoherence. For as random and surgically precise the images are of the tentacles and the tree this is still a very safe image. it isn't art yet.

>>1949998
Stop treating every drawing like its your last. Look through all of picasso's paintings start to finish and see how unfinished some are. stepping stones to better ideas. Your art should always come across as the middle chapter, not the ending. You got out of the beginning of your art story, but you are rushing to the finish line. Show some humility and let the viewer know you haven't painted your masterpiece and there is still more work to be done.

see what im saying?

My first drawing, i know its terrible but i ask you for serious tipps to increase my skill level!

>>1949987
do you think these proportions work?
be consistent at least

>>1949775
>95
I was fresh out the cooch nigga, goddamn

>>1949619

Everything is too soft, your darks need to be darker and the form isn't too good because the lighting isn't believable.

Work on tone before color.

>>1948378
just something

>>1949080
Le what motherfucker its art not real life hahaha

>>1950062
looks like gta art

>>1950078
samefag

>>1948378
can I get a critique on this?

I did a study of a guy from a thread long long ago and made his head a bit taller..

>>1949802
you know concept art is about ideas and concepts?

>>1950127
wouldn't know that from this board

>mech
>soldier
>guns
>monster

those are about all the "concepts" /ic/ has

>>1950142
Don't forget "big mountain scene"

>>1950144
ah yes. good ole big mountain scene.

>>1950062

isn't that jlaw?

>>1949953

beautiful

Did a quick study of my mouse.

the fucking pressure sensitivity isnt working on my tablet. so this is my style now.

>>1950179
You may want to figure out what the issue with the tablet is. Maybe reinstall the drivers or restart your computer.

>>1950179

Sucks to hear about your tablet, but honestly that looks pretty neat. I guess since you have an idea where values are supposed to go so it doesn't look off.

>>1950183
where do i find the drivers?

>m-muh fan art
it's for school - kinda

>>1949953

post ref

>>1950179
That's happened to me a few times. Besides installing the driver, one thing that's worked thus far is using CCcleaner to fix registry issues. Also I kinda hate you because even with a broken tablet you're doing better shit than I've ever done.

>>1950199
dem roids

>>1950221
Korra's so fuckn aesthetic

>>1950207

>>1950199
man body

>>1950220
im royally fucking up everything right now. i tried uninstalling the tablet software, i tried redownloading it, it says i need to update my OS. so now im doing that, might not even work. don't know where the box is the tablet came in. omfg who let me near a computer!?

also thanks, i draw a lot from life. that helps.

>>1950248
What tablet are you using? What's your OS?

>>1950229

how was this missing from my zorn folder. terrible.

anyway not sure how much it's gonna help you but imo the biggest issue is that you failed to give the large shape on the right which merges into the upper part of the dress the proper temperature.

>>1950155
Of course it is, I saw it too.

>>1950273
a small wacom intuos. theres a fat stack of boxes in front of where the package it came in is. dont feel like moving those this late. and idk what OS i WAS on but im about to be on Yosemite which has a rousing 2 and a half stars on the app store

>>1950248
You may also try using a System Restore to bring your computer back to a point where the software was working properly. And yeah, I'm gonna be doing some pretty hardcore life studies in the very near future, hope it'll help me get there lol.

>>1950009
Your lines are very scratchy, you can tell you go back and forth while your drawing. Did you use a refence? Does the hat you drew have the same shape as the one in the photo? Draw a couple heads with faces on them and start at the beginner thread.

>>1950085
The eyes are fucking huge. Use a reference and dont draw just half the face and copy paste it to the otherside. The perfect symmetry is erie.

>>1949982
Scary? Depends on your audience. Personally I think the idea has promise but its not persented with in a way to instill fear. Its kinda just there.

>>1949934
The eyes are big and too far apart. One of her ears is falling off. Try flipping your drawing and you'll spot the stuff right away.

>>1949925
Did you do thumbnails? Your composition should be somewhat planned. Not made up as you go.

>>1949878
Google image search swimming trunks or pants + belt. Magizines have tons of clothed references.

>>1949868
The rats pose is much more dynamic compared to hers. I have no real advice for but I do like it a lot more then the other.

>>1949857
It looks like you don't understand proportions of the head. Use a reference, keep using references. Some of the shading is okay, but the foundation its on isnt correct.

>>1950285
Hmm. Not familiar with macs unfortunately.

Either way what you want to do if find your tablet preferences utility. You'll probably have to do some googling. Delete all preferences. Then uninstall the tablet and restart. Download the latest drivers from wacom, install and restart.

>>1950285
Throw it away, do it right from the get-go and go buy a windows computer.

>>1950285
I'm on Yosemite; it's not THAT bad, but it's certainly not good. I actually had to upgrade to use my Cintiq properly, so that might fix your problem.

>>1950303
I've been doing thumbnails all of yesterday & I just suck at it -_-' imo this was the best I got and it still sucks.

>>1950323
yeah but this scroll inversion is KILLIN a nigga
>>1950314
ill try some of this tomorrow. just dont feel like futzin around with it more tonight

>>1950338
You can change it in System Preferences -> Trackpad

>>1950310
Thanks. I'll try focusing on head proportions. Probably doesn't help that my ref was a pixelated flat-face N64 model lol

is this thumb ok?

>>1950302
Thanks, mate. Appreciated.

>>1950392
yep it reads well

there's a lot of things you could of done differently but i think it's pretty successful without needing a more standard kind of arrangement.

almost has a bit of a citizen kane feel, which is always a good sign.

>>1949756

I'm happy with how the mountains turned out but the tree looks like a turd. Help

i started with a drawing this time

why am i so bad at colors ;_;

>>1950414
ref

>>1950231
That's what you want

>>1950396
Thank you friend

what do tou think?

>>1949868
are you the same anon that drew skeleton characters before?

>>1950458
is this bait?
>>1950484

pretty good but the line is too thick

>>1949752
not bad anon, try to break out of the comfort zone that is drawing from photos, try drawing something in your own room for example.

>>1950486
no its not bait, i can tell that you are pretty new here
>thats fine
that guy has been postin gfor a while and you can always tell its him.
have a good look at most the art he posts.
(he has another in this thread >>1949960
.)
some of them can be quite pleasing in the composition.

btw im not him samefagging.
i draw this shit.
>pic related, its my shit.

>>1950486
>>1950484
Better ?

>>1950508
fair enough, i guess everyone have their own taste, so this could be considered pleasing to the eye by someone.
perhaps a blind fella

>>1950513
yeah this is extremely better, sorry for double posting but waiting for someone else to postcould take up to half an hour

>>1950517
i agree with you that >>1950458 is not his best work by far.
but others have had the thread turning heads.

>>1950226
nigga you homosex
which is fine

random stuff, but would like to somehow animate the crows' heads and maybe do some jiggling here and there. in what would be the best to do that ? flash or Ae ?

>>1950533
toon boom or paper

>>1950221

>>1950533
AE. Flash can't distort images really.

>>1949972
Someone likes Craola Simkins.

>>1949640
Reshaped some parts, fixed the lance, hand and various parts. Finally decided on shoulder joints. I obviously didn't finish it up yesterday evening but instead. I am a really slow worker, sorry.
>>1949655
Ok
>>1949781
Thanks!
>>1949842
I posted a link in previous thread. I don't want to spam that link to much.

As for your picture, The darker parts of the apple needs to be more saturated since your light is currently working in desaturating favor.

I don't know If this helps but try looking at the apple in real life and see what colors it actually is right now. Knowing the apple is red tricks your mind into thinking you should use red color, when instead you might opt for a red that borders into violet territory.

It took me staring at a brick chimney at night to figure that out.

I hope it helps.

>>1950549

i'm so in love with this chick.

>>1950596
Where does your good undearstanding of form come from?

>>1950607
Playing with lego and watching the crates at my previous job I guess.

I still have a long way to go with understanding forms, but I started with 2 point perspective and now more or less try to freehand squares and circles. I don't remember who said it but if you do all lines with a ruler, the result will end up lifeless since real life has mistakes. I have tried that a few times and I found out I agree with it a lot, everything looks to calculated and cold. And if you go out side and look at cars parked along a street, you notice very early that they do not magically align with each other, same goes for some trees.

But the point is that you can just jump to free handing perspective without understanding the basics. So my tip is to try drawing a street two point, and then you go fuck it and free hand it with perspective in mind then compare the results.

>>1950623
Shit,
*Can't jump

I edit that when I can delete the post.

>>1950607

Playing with lego and watching the crates at my previous job I guess.

I still have a long way to go with understanding forms, but I started with 2 point perspective and now more or less try to freehand squares and circles. I don't remember who said it but if you do all lines with a ruler, the result will end up lifeless since real life has mistakes. I have tried that a few times and I found out I agree with it a lot, everything looks to calculated and cold. And if you go out side and look at cars parked along a street, you notice very early that they do not magically align with each other, same goes for some trees.

But the point is that you can't just jump to free handing perspective without understanding the basics. So my tip is to try drawing a street two point, and then you go "fuck it" and free hand it with perspective in mind then compare the results.

>>1950596
i was expecting everything to be sharper and more defined, like the head an chest of the robot, this still has alot of work that needs to be done

>>1950302
lol this faggot thinks he's hot shit even though he can't critique for shit

>big eyes hurr durr
what is stylization (granted it should be in the other thread but still, you're fuckn retarded for not seeing it's done on purpose)

>The perfect symmetry is erie.
lol you fucking wot m8

>not persented with in a way to instill fear. Its kinda just there.
he's asking about the actual design of the actual creature, dipshit

Which ones your shit art?

>>1950633
Yes, I am doing some retouches and softening up some of the more distanced and "unrelevant" areas and sharpening areas closer to the viewer like the fingers. The main problem with making shit up as you go when designing things however is that there is going to be a few repainting of it because it doesn't feel right. So don't worry, I am a firm believer in taking your time with stuff.

>>1950536
>>1950556

ty anons, but i'm really not experienced in animation, will tweening or something like that work for the head of the crows ? or should I just draw it frame by frame

>>1949982
I like it, looks like a fucked up monster from cartoon

>>1949982
looks sick as fuck, pretty scary

Another study I did. How can I improve this?

>>1950652
her boobs are quite low

>>1950641
Depends how you want to animate them. If you just want their heads to move, yeah you can do that in Flash; anything more complicated will probably need After Effects.

In Flash, import the image and hit Ctrl+B (or command+B) to break it apart, i.e. be able to edit it. Lasso a crow's head, and cut and paste it on a new layer. Then you can tween it or animate it frame-by-frame or whatever you want. Also, each head has to be on a separate layer.

>>1950652
Weight distribution and balance - practice a bit of gesture drawing maybe? You're doing quite fine with colours.

>>1950682
Ayoo b00s you have a nice jaw.

Anyone a good ref i could use for this? And maybe som advice on how to make it more connected to the viking era? It's for a high fantasy, goofy game, so realism isn't really important.

>>1950310
Yeah, gotta have another look on the pose, i dont want to make it look cliche however, cheers.
>>1950475
One and same, yeah. Forgot trip

single biggest issue with this illustration?

overrendered parts? stiff pose? wonky hand anatomy? flat shield?

if you only had 2 hours to work on this... how would you spend that time most efficiently? because i'm noodling around and pushing pixels back and forth and not really going anywhere. i'm also so happy with it so far that i'm afraid of ruining it.

>>1950711
>flat shield?
yep thats what jumps into my eyes right away.
right arm looks "twisted", the elbow is too low i think (not sure tho).
The chainmail looks really wonky too, but other than that i really like this.

>>1950723

hm. thanks anon. you are right the hand and elbw angle are mutually exclusive... i believe. and the shield probably needs a terminator or something. those two are probably a good start...

>>1950682
Learn to draw before muh mixture and texture brushes

>>1950669
thx, i'll try that and post results here when I have time.

>>1950711
manlet legs

>>1950596
>I hope it helps.
Yes, it does, very much so. Like you pointed out, I wasn't thinking about the saturation right. In the video he started with a saturated color, so the colors he used to compliment it were desaturated, so that's what I was doing, but I didn't realize that starting with a desaturated color requires the opposite, and that probably should be obvious lol. I'll look at some more pics of apples and try to apply this advice. Thanks so much for taking time out to crit me, and I hope I'll be able to find & follow you, hehe.

>>1950699
Dudes, come on now.

>>1950761
nice lines. can you explain how you sketch ?

>>1950739
I only used a chalk brush and soft eraser though. How about telling me what I did wrong so I can fix it?

>>1950639
>muh style
b - but anon... perfect symmetry is eerie.
http://time.com/2848303/heres-what-faces-would-look-like-if-they-were-perfectly-symmetrical/
http://www.buzzfeed.com/omarvillegas/heres-what-15-celebs-would-look-like-if-their-faces-were-sym#.qoNyX09Br

Buddy, I love the critique of my critique, but I'm sure everyone else who posted something they made would rather have your attention.

Since I got new tablet I'm trying out new things.

>>1950765
kind of hard to explain that, but i use the basic round brush with transfer and shape dynamics. At first i put down big, thick lines to get the idea and general figure down, put that layer on around 30% opacity, and then refine with quick strokes and scribbling. Wrist and elbow movements mainly. And i try to think impressionistically, to stay away from a clean, boring drawing. Hope that helps.

>>1950699
I would look up some viking lore, I'm sure you could fine a monster or something that you can steal some similarities from.

>>1950771
koptek

>>1950017
Work on That, any critic? Sry for size im post from Phone.

If I wanted to do some digital painting studies in photoshop, portraits/busts from photos, in color, how long is a good amount of time to spend on each study, if I'm intermediate at drawing from photos and low level intermediate or possibly beginner at digital painting? It took me 40-60 minutes to draw these from photos in pencil.

>>1950771
>muh style
yea exactly dumbass, I'm not defending their shitty drawings by any means

Holy fuck this is really frustrating me. I feel like I'm getting worse. Studies are so hard.

any tips?

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>>1951059
>>1951059

>>1950766
just kidding the foundation is actually fine, just push your values way more and dont make shit of the neck and shoulders for no reason

>>1949078
looks fuckin neato

>>1949063
ah these are nice,
nice use of border breaking
I'd like to see you use color sometime
have a site?