/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How is it looking regarding colors?

>>1949993
Eres tu, Betty la fea?

>>1949995
Oh shit I though the exact same, can't be a coincidence.

>>1949995
>>1949997

No (its no , but in spanish)
But it's kinda the same idea , cute girl that dresses ugly

Drew this the other day. Not too happy with parts of the clothing but whatever.

a bowser thing

>>1950032
fuckin kek

>>1950032
>shinblade.jpg
based/10

I ded

hi

>fish pussy

>>1950162
forgot image ///

nightly sketching

>>1950163
nice rendering but the drawing is a little off. her right arm look too thin and weirdly positioned. Where is her collar bone?

>>1950159
I've seen you post before and I dig your stuff, do you have a tumblr or anything?

>>1950181
Not him, but it's a monster so whatever.

>>1950184
thanks :)
http://illustrationilism.tumblr.com/

>>1950181
made a couple quick changes to the arm and collarbones

>>1950185
hey don't call my waifu a monster!

>>1950177
can't tell wtf is happening
like ur style though

>>1950188
Your welcome mate.

>>1950190
Better, but the collar bone looks too low down and you have rendered it as if it's creating a sharp crease in the skin. Collarbones don't create sharp 90 degree edges on the skin, soften the edge.

I'm just nitpicking it's looking very sexy otherwise.

>>1950191
clean up won't be too hard, I glad the scribble has appeal, thx.

>>1949863

>>1950190

>>1950253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEwWzMz99A

any comments so far, i need help with coloring im on sai

>>1950032
10/10

>>1950253
any better?

>>1950032
We always needed more Guilty Gear.

Its not my best but its all i have in hand right now, any advice anons?

contributan...

>>1950332
umm idk but i think the hat girl's neck is somewhat too wide..
but maybe i'm wrong

>>1950401
Very nice!

>>1950401
great

Went to /fa/ today to practice clothes and drapery. Got kinda sidetracked...
> 1 wanted to do clothes but was having problems with faces - changed course and decided to do faces today
> 2 messed up on some eye placement but the hair lacked volume - changed course and decided to render some hair
> 3 had problems rendering the face - changed course and decided to practice rendering today
> 4 the hair looked good before I blacked out the BG but then I noticed some hand and anatomy issues, but I ran out of steam to continue practicing...

I have long face issues cause I draw on a flat (not angled surface) I keep forgetting to undo the perspective transform...

Also bad eye scaling and placement are plaguing me.

Overall, /fa/ is pretty good for refs - would go back

>>1950441
Ughhh the heads are soooooo big I can see them oversized from the thumbnail - gotta work on that. I think I spent too long drawing heads separated from the bodies. Will be practicing these tomorrow...

>>1950353
nice
but the that blood/flesh makes her look like a trufala tree

>>1950177
little witch academia?

>>1950234

>ahs: freak show

Literally the worst piece of shit on television right now. So glad that tonight is the last episode.

>inb4 >>>/tv/

>>1950441
eyes are too big, but they look good

>>1950401 same anon.
working on a new piece

>>1950441
Have you been referencing off Firez?

So I started this piece and posted the WIP a few months ago. I never got around to 'finishing' it, as I've been away. So first time back on PS in a few months so I thought I'd get most of it done.

I know I suck at painting....I'm learning. So crits please....and be gentle.

>>1950625

Dang dude, this is way better than what you had back then. Keep it up

>>1950625
reference

Gobline shaman from world of warcraft. thoughts?

>>1950632
Thanks man. You remember the old one I posted back in November?
>>1950634
I'll post refs when I get back home. I have them on my computer.

>>1950656
looks like a very ugly cross dresser with those fishnet gloves and that skirt.

>>1950693
not wrong, but not helpful. figures.

>>1950552
>they look good
I can't look at them anymore it's making me really upset. It's harder for me to draw the eyes and the heads when they are smaller its giving my drawings big head disorder

>>1950622
>referencing off Firez?
That's too meta, I was just browsing /fa/ yesterday

>>1950685

Yeah no offense but the faces then were pretty bad. Now they're way more appealing. Just go ahead and do some studies and you'll be able to improve your painting skills.

something for fun

>>1950934
just noticed i forgot a foot

>>1950185
you'll never be a good artist with that mindset

>>1950961
Makes sense to me.
Why does a monster need to have perfect human anatomy. Doesn't make much sense to me.
I'm not saying he should draw humans like that.

>Why does a monster need to have perfect human anatomy
thing is a monster doesn't need to have perfect human anatomy.
However, in this case, it's half, half of it is a monster, but the other half is human, thus that half needs to follow human anatomy.

>>1950970
Why? Nobody said that was the case.

>>1950973
Well a mermaid is half-human, half-fish right?
The human half follows human anatomy
The fish half is whatever

>>1950973
sounds more like youre worried about having to learn something new than any point youre trying to make. Youre right, it doesnt need perfect anatomy, but that doesnt mean its going to look good. Any good character designer in the industry has a very solid grip on anatomy. If they were to draw a monster with say 8 arms, then they most likely would place them somewhere anatomically plausible. no point having 8 arms if your guy can only use 3 of them because the rest get in the way. Pic related: a monster i drew (it doesnt need good anatomy)

>>1950986
I'm not the artist, idiot.

It's not about having "human anatomy," it's about function. All monsters you've ever found cool in movies and shit was because they all have bases on real, functional designs. Something can't be a badly drawn mess just because it is "made up." It shows when you don't understand what you are doing, and making excuses is only going to gimp your growth.

>>1950998
lol, what's up with this pathetic attempt at trying to feel superior. I'm a biology major, I know my shit and I'm not even the one that drew that, I don't make such mistakes.
You're just forcing your shitty "anatomy knowledge" pretend you're worth anything.
Just shut the fuck up, kid.

>>1951008
>calling out on someone trying to feel superior
>proceeds to call him kid

Not him but he does have a point.

>>1950955
That's a cute style anon. Reminds me of dan from game grumps.

WARAOU EBIGG ANIME LOL LOL LOL LMAO IMASHO DESU NE XDDD

Anyone got any guides to coloring and shading?
I have No clue how I can get these to blend well

>>1951195
>color
Learn value first

>value
observe life, take 3 to 5 values and make thumbnail compositions, focusing on readability.

>color
observe life, read up on color theory, or just swipe palettes from other paintings

I still need to work on slowing down and actually taking time to do clean lines.

>>1949863
what am I doing rawng?

trying some brushes

Just doodling tonight, honestly.

Just dicking around with different styles.

>>1951271
same anon, w/ something else from tonight. his arm is fucked up.

>>1950177
You're getting better

I just got a new drawing tablet. Cant use it for shit. Photoshop CS5 fag here. Any tips for a beginner?

>>1951275
this is garbage please no more :( i cried all my tears

>>1951292
same

Can someone give me some feedback on this thing?
I drew just the dude first then i gave the old bullshit factor to the background. No planning just "man, he needs something back there...ok" I wish I had actually done some sort of sketching rather than just goin in.
I almost never put anything behind characters because i'm awful and lazy so this is really, REALLY uncharted territory for me. I have no idea what I'm fucking doing.
I haven't used digital medium very much, so i sort of used this as a chance to play.
I don't hate it, but it's definitely a travesty of glow and bad perspective.
help?

>>1951320
his left hip angle looks kinda iffy
no perspective on the back wheel (no idea if it's intentional) and the staff
would loose the green background and so something else

>>1951322
the gear is sort of made of light?
agreed on everything else. heh, that staff is so bad, shhh shhh....

>>1950634
These are the refs i used to get the basic lines down. Also, this is how i left it back in november. Since then i've re-done both faces aswell as other bits on both of them, and pretty much all new colouring.

Anyone have any artists to look at how they draw breasts? Clothed or otherwise?

I can draw them plain when the figure is in a standing pose but squished up to things or with a bra on I have problems with.

Shirts are usually fine but it's weird to have characters looking like they're standing around without bras on.

>>1951400
have you felt any real boobs? perhaps if you understood the properties of the material better you'd be able to guess how they squish and stretch more easily.

>>1951400
>but squished up to things

I'm actually working on a pic like that right now.

Drew this to the side to help me. Dunno if you might get it. Just think of a ball with jelly in it and you squeeze it.

>>1951407
>bags of sand

>>1951408
>ball with jelly in it

>>1951416
Balloon with whatever thickness of titfat........

stand up and touch your ass.

>>1951416
Salty milk and bags of coins

>>1951429
>tacitly admits to having never touched boobs by saying they feel like an ass.

lel

>>1951435
Not like you have a better answer.

bet your gf is a whale

>>1951429
I learned this from /a/
>lightly puff out your cheeks
>then gently poke your cheeks with your finger

I found this rather accurate, but your results may vary depending on how bad your acne/neck beard is.

>>1951439
That's not bad actually. They feel more like they're filled with air than liquid or gel.

Back to /fa/ today
> 1 clearly warming up
> 2 I swear she had glasses on, the sweater material was too fine to do line work
> 3 found this pretty amusing - shoe untied and so sad
> 4 this one was the best of the worst, probably because I didn't have to do a face
> 5 bad proportions, starting to burn out after climaxing at 4
> 6 I think she was supposed to be innocently covering her mouth, but I made her look like she is about to vomit. I got lost in the delicate folds of the sweater again.

Overall: 4 > 3 > 6 > [shit] > 2 > 5 > 1
Proportions: [shit] > 3 > 2 > 4 > [unrankable]
Drapery: [failure] > 4 jacket > 6 undershirt

I really like /fa/ - gonna go for coloring tomorrow, the lines feel incomplete

>>1951249
not posting more of that. looks great

Current WIP.

The highlights and dark purple are temporary. Not sure how to tackle the light source.

When doing the rough sketch lines for heads, where do you guys find the lines best?

Do you have multiple lines for different heads, or do you only need the x line and the y line?

>>1950055
The cast shadows on your shell are too circular. Also, bowser should hate mushrooms, he needs bombombs on his trousers

>>1950872
Line work is a little too thick for my taste, and its inconsistency is distracting.

>>1950934
The guy stabbing looks cool

>>1951262
New brushes look good, but it probably would have looked good without them

>>1951286
The soft brush on the form shadows looks amateurish

>>1951249

Yeah, i agree, looks good. Aside from a few minor things, like the hand and hair, but it take it it's a WIP? I'd like to see this finished up!

>>1951275
Woah, those colours. Lasso>Gradient fill? Not the best choice.

>>1951286
Just study head shapes/skulls/ anatamoy in general. Even if you're going for an anime look, that face is way off. The jaw from ear to chin is way too angled. If you're looking at someone head on, do you see ears like that? Eyes could do with some work too. Keep it up though.

>>1951448
I think you're too hard on yourself. I like it. What refs do you use for your stuff?

>>1951459
If the lighter is the only light source then I'd tone down the highlights maybe. Especially on the creepy thing in the back.

>>1951480
>What refs do you use
Not sure if this will work, I've never cross referenced before
>>>/fa/9336872
>>>/fa/9336875
>>>/fa/9336876
>>>/fa/9337021
>>>/fa/9349975
>>>/fa/9349985

When I start to develop a style should I try and use references of other artists to try and be like them?

>>1951467
i actually draw my x and y line relative to the plane not the head. is weird but it works for me.

>>1951494
study them by decomposition of components. make that for all of your favorite artists. sample, combine and remix. voilà, your brand new style.

>>1951494
No, you learn to draw a real eye and then you begin to stylize it to your liking.

>>1951559
Sakimichan is one of my favorite artists, I want to get his tutorials but I'd have to patreon him

>>1951563
you don't need tutorials to learn you, go find some reference of real eyes and draw them.

How's this?

>>1951578
Please no

>>1951494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiT6mOt3L08

>>1951580
I think it's appropriate since this is an alternative art/stylization thread were it is often the objective to take a character from a cartoon and 'make it yours'. And this is allowed since I'm not drawing pony, it was just used as a reference for character design. But any comments on the drawing or stylization is welcomed.

>>1951448

TABLEGUY 2 IS GOOD SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>1951582
>I think it's appropriate since this is an alternative art/stylization thread were it is often the objective to take a character from a cartoon and 'make it yours'.
not really

Can anybody help me with the hands? maybe with a redline?

>>1951627
Even your handwriting is shaky.

>>1951629

>>1951627
Please guys, I'm stuck

>>1951661

Look at your own hands. God gave you two of them for reference, isn't he kind?

>>1951448
looks like average fashion sketches, proportions looks ok. the only thing i would put more attention to is the lineart. especially on 2 and 3, notice the difference between fabrics, soft vs rough.

>>1951480
I didn't gradient anything, I'm not sure what you're talking about? Sorry, I'm a little new at all of this.

>>1951666
>666
>Speaks about god.
Yeah, no.

>>1951480
>>1951458
Thank you, is not a WIP it was a study. Well I guess I should make a more finished up illustration now.

>>1951627
Well I just went ahead and paid no attention to the hands...

>>1951930
forgot pic

Yotsuba from Yotsubato (I'm guessing everyone knows her). I probably could have spent a bit more time on the shirt...

My ultimate dream is getting into the birthday card game.

Imagine it, people all over the country giving their loved ones a card with one of your crude drawings on it to celebrate their special day.

A man can dream.

God fucking. Damnit.

SOMEONE please give me a good method for making decent stylized eyes. All my eyes look like a derp or they take me literally longer than everything else combined. I know the parts of the real eye, I have a shit ton of references for stylized eyes. I use line guides. I just can't fucking do it. The pupils or the eye outlines are always fucked up in some way. Anything that helps, anything! Please lord!

>>1952061
by the way I mean at different angles. Straight on is simple, and I barely ever draw eyes straight on.

>>1952061

by the way I mean at different angles. Straight on is simple, and I barely ever draw eyes straight on.

>>1952061
>>1952062
post pics so I can get an eye-dea on how to offer help and support.

>>1952061
Post some of your eyes. One thing that helps me is to draw dots at the vertices of the eye's outline, and to draw the iris/pupil like it's the cone of a speaker with the pupil inset in comparison to the surrounding iris or everlaying lens.

>>1952071
>>1952072
alright let me draw some up

My eyes always look derpy. They look alright until I mirror them. I just can't seem to grasp what they should look like when turned at angles, like where their corners should be and where the iris or pupil would be in relation to the other one if the character is looking off somewhere to the side. I don't have any style of eye that I draw, so I just wing it with different styles. Maybe that's why I can't figure anything out. Maybe I'm treating them like they are flat. I don't know, but I wish I did.

>>1950656

>>1952095
Choose an artist you like and study the way they draw stylized faces. Doing studies of real faces also helps.

>>1952105
You know, I always thought this was bullshit. When martial artists and monks/prayermen hold their hands at almost right angles, I mean. I cannot remotely get my hand anywhere near that angle without extreme discomfort and I can only achieve that angle forcibly by using my other hand, and so I thought it was an embellishment that artists took. I was floored when I brought this up to friends and I was the only one who COULDN'T naturally hold their hand at that angle.

>>1952112
I can almost make it 90 degrees on my left hand but it's more like 120 degrees on my right hand. Maybe using a mouse every day for 16 hours screwed up my wrist

>>1952116
I can do it, but my fist has to be closed. Extending my fingers brings severe discomfort, and that's what was mindblowing to me when out of a group of 10+, I'm the only one with this problem. I'm not fat or anything, I don't know what keeps me from doing it. But yeah, I tried to avoid drawing these kinds of 'flat palm outward' poses because I myself can't do them and I thought it was physically impossible.

>>1952109
You know any good artists that do stylized comic-type, yet realistic faces? Not flat animu symbol bullshit, but not full on detail supreme realism faces. Looking over a bunch of artists I like, I never realized just how simplistic some of their eyes are. I want to be able to make comic or animu characters in a fantasy style, but not be too far from reality. Sadly, most of the artists I know of are all animu bullshit.

>>1952123

That means you need to expand your horizons, m8. Go over to /co/ and ask for recs, they're generally some of the more helpful people on 4chan. Just remember it's still 4chan and same shit applies there.

Also while anime expressions tend to be a lot more understated, it's still there. It'll only help you understand the similarities and differences between expressions amongst cultures.

>>1950485
yep
>>1951277
Good to hear

progress, so far I think I've been avoiding uncanniness(?).

>>1952123
might be best to start from drawing and observing actual head anatomy and then stylizing from there. At least that's what I tell myself.

>>1952017

Niggachan, if you ain't got a reference try making the pose yourself in front of a mirror. I'm sure you're a tall, fat fuck like the rest of us but it should give you more insight as to why that looks so awful.

Remember that ALL stylizations are based on real life, so if you're struggling with it, you always look to life to give you the answer.

>>1950485
yes
>>1951277
nice

Hopefully I've avoided any uncanniness(?)

>>1952123
If you understand the planes and forms of a real face you wouldn't have problems with stylization. Stylization is simply exaggerating various features and proportions of the facial structure while keeping it visually appealing.

>>1952112
>>1952116
>>1952122

Huh, can people really extend it back that far just naturally with no effort or discomfort? If so, than my critique is at least partially wrong.

The point I was trying to get across though was that it's usually not the most natural pose for the hand to take if you're extending your arm out to something. But again, I could be wrong.

>>1952173
Train yourself to think in 3D. Good stylization originates from being able to represent form using simple values and contours.

Beginners often find it difficult to draw a pretty face, not because their proportions or style are necessarily bad, it's because they don't understand what constitutes attractive features on a face. Again, the best approach to this problem is to study real faces and expression. Understand what combination of features make them appeal to you (nose length, eye shape, eyebrows height and shape, jaw and cheek structure). Watch out for these small things when you construct a face and apply your practice.

>>1952154
Are you from Argentina? That'd be weird, because I have an Argentinian who is also drawing Sucy.

>>1952154
Are you from Argentina? That'd be weird, because I have an Argentinian friend who is also drawing Sucy.

>>1952191
Sorry, big, strong american man here. You friend has good taste tho.

I can stop drawing but I never finish anything, how do you go about fixing that?

>>1952187
>because I have an Argentinian who is also drawing Sucy.

Not today faget

>>1951578
omg you could have played it off so nicely but you had to add the damn pony bitch and the human pony bitch. the yellow one is adorable

trying a different style

>>1951187 Colored version here. I was hoping someone could take a look at this for me, I was just fooling around but I think I like the direction of this style.

>>1952246
I'll be honest. If it's not animu style, it looks shit to me.

>Trying to draw fat cheek because I like how its gives depth to the drawing
>Draw it and hate how I drew it
I dont get it
How do I draw cheeks?

>>1952284
Show your stuff first.

>>1952193
i have the same "issue", you just have to do it, ya know?

>>1952305
Dont have anything saved on this so I just did some quick stuff
Is the cheeks sticking out to much?

>>1952332
remember that the cheek isn't just a flat contour. It's it's part of a mass that has three dimensions. You're having trouble stylizing because you don't know how to construct a head.

sooo anyone else like cars? can anyone give me tips on coloring cars?

>>1952341
Yeah I have mostly done body based studies till now
So how do could I apply the 3rd demention to the jaw?

>>1952358
lol why are you using that reference?

>>1952358
Tracing is bad

>>1952226
I like it but she looks like a dude.

What method of shading is this?
How do you even blur on Sai?

>>1952438
Water brush

>>1952447
Really?
Ive used that before and it just makes things look, dirty

Here we go again - perhaps coloring tomorrow
>>>/fa/9337008
> 1 warming up - her left arm is supposed to be foreshortened...

>>>/fa/9337401
> 2 I liked how the pants came out

>>>/fa/9349860
> 3 fucked up the legs and I just couldn't fix them, baggy shirt looked weird, I just gave up on that face

>>>/fa/9355548
> 4 those profile shots are death gotta practice

>>>/fa/9356354
> 5 bit off more than I could chew with the clothes on this one, but I enjoyed the challenge

Overall: 5 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 3
Real question, better than yesterday? >>1951448
>definitely better than the day before

>>1951589
Haha what? Feel free to rank the new ones

>>1951667
I tried to use a 005 today instead of 02 for sketching the lighter fabric. I have a habit of doing heavy line work.

>>1952450
you should definitely learn to draw smaller eyes for your more realistic studies, otherwise those big eyes of yours might become a bad habit.
for learning purposes, study how normal eyes and faces look. it will add to your style later on.

>>1952473
> draw smaller eyes
Fuck I purposefully drew them smaller this time too. The heads are so small the facial features are like dots, and as I shift the features around they become these thick blobs that look over sized.

But enough excuses - I'll pick up the face studies again after I finish this drapery kick. I've been procrastinating clothing for months. I can only draw so many chicks with body suits...

>>1952484
maybe make bigger face studies.
try to make slower studies as well. take in all the details

>>1952361
You haven't established a side plane to the head. Even in a profile view, the "face" is still narrower than the back of the mass of the head, so the side planes would still be visible.

>>1952517
*meant to say portrait

>>1952450
Your proportions are rather inaccurate.
You made the top half longer and larger than the bottom half. This also applies to the head, which is larger in your drawings.

One way to fix this is to familiarize measuring the landmarks (shoulder width, waist tilt, crotch, knee, etc.) in your head first or use a pencil to dot the landmarks before you construct.

Keep going, your dedication is inspiring!

this is my first time trying a really eastern style. have I got the basic proportions right?

>>1952540
Nope

>>1952123
Range Murata

>>1952540
There are lots of body types, not sure what you're going for and you don't have a reference.
So I'll just critique the obvious.
Upper arm is way too thin. Torso is kind of long, belly button should sink into tummy. She has no waist.

Legs look like they have no bones inside, and the knee is a little too high up. Feet looks like it belongs to Mickey Mouse.

Generally, female figures will look proportionate if it's 7-8 heads tall.

>>1952540
Its utter shit
If you want to prove me wrong do the same pose from different angles

>>1952540
disgusting


study uemura you should be at least at his level if you're going to do this

>>1952562
lel

>>1952374
i started by tracing then i tried to copy what i traced. im glad it looks good enough to be considered traced.

>>1952592
No
Thats still bad
You're still using cheat lines

>>1952592
>tracing

fuck off you don't belong on /ic/ at all you never did

>>1952637

Tracing isn't inherently bad for study, It's a real good ray of comprehending forms of an object or if you want to practice something like rendering: at the very least you know for a fact it looks wrong because you rendered wrong not because you drew the object a little wrong.

For studies and practice it's best to break it down for one thing, unless you're practicing creating a fully polished piece from scratch.

If you're just tracing without a goal in mind then it's just silly. No different than just copying a photo in my book.

>>1952662
>Tracing isn't inherently bad

Stop shitposting.

>>1952669
Not him, but it really isn't. Tracing can help with many things, but I don't need to repeat what he already said.

>>1952669
You can trace the drawing, lick the drawing, feel the drawing, taste the drawing, be the drawing.

how do i foreshortening /ic/?

I'm lost on the whole contrast thing. Where should light even come from?

>>1952690
Looks good anon. The weapon and gesture especially.
What foreshortening do you mean? Her knee?
Btw, binary tool?

>>1952722
yes, her knee. i dunno why but it just doesn't seems right

also, what's binary tool? i do aware of its existence but i rarely use it. it looks worse compared to other brushes tho. pressure doesn't work on it.

it's like mspaint brush lol

>>1952731
Her knee actually looks right to me lol. It's not severely foreshortened, but it's currently anatomically correct.

Yes that no pressure tool. Binary is what it's called in SAI.
I thought you used it because your lines are so sharp, but apparently that isn't the case. What do you use for your lines?

This is something I did with pencil tool in PS.

>>1952735
looks neat. are you planning to posted it here after finished it?

btw, i used pen tool for both my sketch and lines. apparently this one looked rather sharp because i resized it to 30% of its original size.
otherwise i can't upload it :/

??

>>1952735
>>1952754
Oops, uploaded the larger file by mistake.

Here. It's just a sketch, no plans on taking it further.

I see, thanks for the info! SAI's pen tool right? Gotta try that someday.

>>1951249
Good things. Tumblr?

>>1952193
>>1952314
Yeah, you're right

>>1952495
>make bigger face studies
Ya I agree, I was doing this before, but then I have proportion issues when attaching the heads to the bodies... its hard to combine everything together, but the faces studies should help with the big eye thing

>>1952523
>use a pencil to dot the landmarks before you construct
Ahh good idea! I have a bunch of pen scribbles where I try to locate the big features. The feet and shoulders suffer a lot from repositioning.

Thanks for the redraw! It helps a lot to see them side by side

>>1951563
WAIT STOP EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYTHING, sakimichan is a HE?

>>1951348
Cloud's left arm could be bigger, also Tifa's eyes looks fucky, but overall awesome work

>>1952800
a tricky pose

>>1952017
>>1952151
Well, I looked in the mirror, it didn't help. Here's the result nontheless

>>1952842
How can you fail at copying something right in front of you?

>>1952918
My pic is at an angle, not my mirror.

>>1952842
see, the problem is that you failed to realize that the angle you wish to draw requires showing the hands' both sides, palm and back

>>1952924
You can get that angle easily in a mirror.
If fact you can get any angle possible with it.
Use your brain.

>>1952841
thx

>>1952972
That leg is TBTF, too big too fast.

>>1952972
http://exhentai.org/s/33f7525f33/705140-1
This is a proper Jinx

>>1953009
>http://exhentai.org/s/33f7525f33/705140-1
Turtle.Fish.Paint is badass.

>>1952561
I was gonna call you out, but thats actually really solid advice

>made on paint just to try
>not a drawfag
>not even taking interest in drawing
>took me 1h and half
>r8

Hey guys! Just got done with this and I'd love some critique. I'm not sure if this thread is really manga/anime-exclusive, so please don't kill me if this doesn't fit in.

>>1953019
>>not even taking interest in drawing
It shows. Like, really shows.

>>1953019
Ugh my eyes

>>1953022
I don't know what to really make of this. I can say the style fits in itself. Those shoes though. Especially the left one. They look terrible.

not sure how to paint over this

>>1953071
start by shading with black on low opacity.

>>1953087
>black
NO, YOU FUCKING DIPWIT.

>>1953071
start with shading with a darker tone, not black but more of a blue

>>1953071
>>1953087
>>1953102
Set New Layer to Multiply or Linear Burn

Shade with black and a big soft brush on a layer above with clipping mask with a low flow

When Satisfied Lock transparency and paint over with another color

i made all those mussels up i swear i will use a ref later on but how's the composition?

>>1953087
THAT IS SO WRONG.
Unless you want a boring, muddy picture, then go for it.

>>1953126
Earthworm Jim?

Sup guys,

Lurker here. What canvas size should I be using in Photoshop? Right now I'm using a 2550x3300 at 300dpi. It works okay, but is there an optimal size that everyone uses?

Just curious. Thanks!

>>1953152
yep

>>1953162
Anyone who tells you "WORK LOOKS SMOOTHER AT BIGGER DPI DUR HUR" is a fucking idiot"

If you're using pixels, dpi doesn't mater, stick with 72.

Also, that's pretty big. You should be able to see your whole canvas either at 100%, 50% or 25% (any other percentage your work will looked jacked up and wonky)

800x600 or 1600x1200 is good for sketching. Anything more than that is a bit much.You dont want to deal with brush lag so early in the game, so you need to keep gesture. Have a small canvas, then when you want to add more detail, make it bigger. (do your final image stretch before you lineart and make sure you're working at 2x or 4x the size you want the finished piece to be.

>>1953162
>>1953169
Kek i just use the scanner

>>1953169

I was getting brush lag during the early shading stages, thought I was doing something wrong.

Appreciate it very much.

>>1953169
Step it up
lag just means your PC sucks.

>>1953183
>lag just means PS sucks.
fixed

>>1953194
Well, no matter the software, you can always get to the point where there's no more RAM available.
In which case you should just download more of it.

>>1953071
Just keep each color on a different layer and paint in the shadows/light for each thing. Paint over with base color then lock transparency and with a soft brush paint in the shadows/light.


As for selecting the shadow/light color just pick your base color and go from there. This is what I normally do for shadows. For light I do the opposite and go diagonally to the left and shift the hue up instead of down.

>>1953199
OR JUST USE FUCKING MASK LAYERS
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR

>>1953201
Or learn how to choose your own colors instead of depending on a digital crutch

>>1953209
You're an idiot

>>1953162

The rule of thumb is to work at twice the dimensions/4 times the size of how large you want the final to be. Not only do images look better once you resize, it's also beneficial to have the larger, un-resampled original if you ever need to prove authorship.

Equally important as file dimensions is to know when you should zoom in or zoom out when working. If you'd like to do inking but have shaky hands, you can get better results working at zoomed-in. Basically, when the amount of shaking in your hand is smaller than a pixel, it doesn't register.

>>1953162
I use 4000x4000 then just crop what I dont use

>>1953215
twice is too little for anything with much detail

>>1953009
Well, I'm no Hirame.

>>1952931
Thanks man
>>1952932
Go fuck yourself you cunt.

>>1953282
plox give critusizem :D :D :D
BUTT ONLY GOOD!!11ONE
no meanies pls :) 3> 3> 3>
#drawing #gifted #im great #instatwits #artgurl

>>1952972
like it, but the leg in the back looks weird

>>1953283
Shut the fuck up, the only problem I had was that the anon(or you) didn't want to actually give criticism,
>>1952931
This person didn't say anything positive, but he explained what was wrong about what I didn't see what was wrong, and I thanked him. I have no problem with real criticism. Unlike the other anon who was on an ego trip to show /ic/ who truly was the most pretentious, best and holier than thou. Saying '' It sucks and here are the reasons'' is not the same as saying '' It sucks''.

>>1953299
i am not that anon, and do i really need to spell it for you?
learn to draw hands gestures in perspective, the hands are way too small.
the scarf is weird, study cloth, arms are weird, and she is too long
>>1953293
you should color it in photoshop, it looks good

>>1953307
Thank you.

>>1953244
Ur prty bad mate, stop postin already

>>1953314
>doesn't post his own art

>>1953058
Thanks mate. For some reason I hadn't even noticed that. I'll get it fixed!

>>1953316
I wouldn't tell you to stop posting, but your style isn't easy on the eyes.

>>1953285
Yeah I've been messing with perspective, and it's hit or miss.

>>1953339
this guy >>1953316 wasn't me but >>1953314
is shitposting and you haven't really told me anything other than you don't like it. It's not even critique.

>>1953361
not that guy, but your faces are absolutely horrible. also i can see that you are sketching way too wildly, your feet aren't touching the ground, try to be more conserative maybe.
seriously stop doing wild drawings that have no thought put into them. calm down and work on the design side of things more.

post some work fellas

>>1953376
post your work

>>1953397

You use copic markers?

>>1953376
y-you can't tell me what to do!

>>1953402
no too expensive

any thougths on this?

>>1953307
Thanks :^)

>>1950934
Digging the style, looking forward to more of your stuff.

>>1953372
You'really saying it's horrible and can't articulate why, how am I supposed to do anything with that?

As for drawing too wildly, I tighten drawings in passes.

>>1953500
no, by "wild" i mean you keep trying for dynamic and expressive stuff but it never comes out correctly. that's because you still lack a lot of the things required to do those type of drawings.
by "design" i mean you don't seem to care about making your work even remotely appealing.
I'm saying that you should work on your basics more, like proportion, anatomy and your style in general.

when i look at >>1953244 i see a distorted man face, a disproportionate body, arms that don't match and generally a lack of patience.

>>1953517
Fair enough, thanks.

guys how do i understand 0033's method

>>1953019
LOL. School-sweater-vest-apron-thingy made me lol and that her right foot

>>1953283
HOW DARE HE SUGGEST YOU USE YOUR BRAIN.

those white cis male artists better check their loomis

>>1953283
You nailed it

>>1953454
>rustled my jimmies

>>1953454
Lineart needs to improve

>>1953019
please don't fish for compliments on something so trash and good thing you'll never take interest in art.

>>1953609
learn japanese

>>1953609
lol, what method? he just does that for reference, there's no method involed, just get gud.

>>1953704
any usefull tip? I really trying to play with thick and thin line buet always looks so incomplete when I remove the skecth below

So is it fine to use references?
Could I say use another persons drawing then put some twists onto it?

>>1953824
No, that's plagiarism.
Honestly, I think it's good for practice, but for an actual drawing, you'd be risking going into the boundaries of plagiarism.
It also says a lot about your creativity and skills.

>>1953817
Same problem here.
My method now is to color first then add lines later.

>>1953817
Just take your time with them, no need to rush.
I mean, look at this.
There's really no reason to have those gaps other than you were rushing it.

>>1953836
that's more usefull than you think, thanks

>>1951271
bestgirl indeed

>>1951275
Hands are way too small. Should be the size to cover face from chin to hairline. Shape and stripes on hat make head look weirdly shaped. Jawline on viewer's right seems to continue to infinity and beyond (fix angle pls). Neck is featureless and flat.I suspect you did not draw the body before adding hair + clothing.

>>1951286
Clavicles do not work that way. Should be horizontal when shoulders at rest pos. Look at photo refs to figure out how ears look and how much they show from this angle. Neckline on wifebeater is not typical for guy's wear.

>>1951400
YUNO study life and photos of natural boobs?

>>1951578
Weird to see Rari without eyeshadow and the lashes, also not sure if vague porn veggie stare and slutty garb goes with her character. Other than that, shape of body seems to not have been built on sketch-underdrawing and so looks wobbly and lumpy. Arms are way too short -- elbows ho about as low as the waist/upper corner of the hip when held at sides relaxed.

Hair gas a good idea but needs lots of work -- shape of part implies malformed skull (should follow curve of skull), pouf/raise and ringlets need referencing. Why draw earring if it's nearly invisible? Be way more bold when building shadows.

Pardon crappy mouse redline.

>>1953852
also pls ignore awkward hip-erasing line at bottom right

>>1953841
Thanks.
Here's just some cleaner lines with weight I tried out of it. It's just using those gaps to its advantage and taking and extra step to fill in the blanks carefully. Just a matter of patience.

>>1953829
I mean just using it for the gesture reference
Maybe like throw the head a bit further back
Legs closed a bit up

>>1953866
O that's a great diference, really thanks for took your time to help me, you are a good person anon.

>>1953875
No worries. I just like the style. Keep it up.

>>1952358
have some 80's wedge master race..

>>1949863
Do you have links to more of your work?

orc guy

>>1953943
The eyes are misaligned. His right eye is drooping. The nose also looks like it's facing us while his head is facing towards the right.

>>1953943

You can fix all those problems by paying attention to the mid line of the face. Notice the change from the hairline to the brow, and then from the brow to the end of the nose. Otherwise its ok. Nice lines.

I "rednosed" I know, but there's a first time for everything.

Just got a dip pen, while practising some different camera angles other than straight forward

>>1952785
You should move the lined leg forward a bit, so it wont create tangents with the hook and tail.

>>1953973
woops

Bullshitted the background and dimmed his eyes.

>>1953975
you need to re-size this shit. There is no way in hell something like this deserves such a high resolution.

>>1953977

Any critique or advice would be appreciated.

>>1953982
You'll get over it.

>>1953975
>>1953973
Lasso does the best lazy redlines

>>1953984
Best advice would be:
Don't color before you ask for advice.

>>1952690
great picture, If you're asking about the knee I think it looks fine. My only complaint is that the eyes seem kind of high on her head

>>1954031
Wow, thanks so much for taking the time to do that. Even though I knew there were major issues I just couldn't get my mind around it/fix it.

>>1954055
great stuff

Lineart WIP.

I'm about to do the far background cityscape now, and I'm anxious if the left-lower corner of the pic is too hollow.

Good to go as it is?

>>1954062
The clockface itself seems slightly out of perspective with the rest of the building and picture. Maybe that's just me?

>>1954062
Initial plan was to add another chain on the left like this, however I thought it made the screen messy. Wonder if this would make things better.

>>1954062
omh got a site?

>>1954067
i think that bat in the top left-hand corner clips with her wings a bit weirdly and looks a bit out of place, if you take him out, maybe put another further away bat up there that might free you up to put one in the bottom left-hand corner instead

>>1954062
Those chains look really awkward without any twist

>>1954069
I have a DA account if that's what you mean.

>>1954071
I wanted to give more depth to the pic by putting a bat closing in near. I'll give it a try. The big bat has its own layer separated so changing it wouldn't be a problem.

>>1954079
morepls

>>1954079
Arms too damn short compared to where her hip is. Apropos, where is her hip? The sketch gives pointers but the linework makes her entire torso beneath the boobline look lumpy and weird. Did you even mirror this before posting?

>>1953019
its good for someone who dont draw

>>1954062
Not a fan of muscly Remilia, but good lineart.

>>1954144
>muscly

rinfag should show you what is muscly.

>>1954151
Well Remilia is supposed to be a delicate loli.

So I'd like to draw cute animal characters with human features. Try to get something to mimic kid friendly shows of the past.

To do this, I'm assuming I need to learn that specific animal anatomy and go on from there with the human anatomy, right? Or is there some kind of tricky to it all?

>>1954193
>furry shit
Nope

>>1954194
>furry

I haven't looked much into that, but I hear nothing but bad things. Would pic related be considered "furry"?

>>1954196
That, no I don't think so.
Furry is animal with more human sexual features and human proportions.

>>1954199
Oh, well I want to draw like something like that. Just cute characters. Not trying to sexualize anything unless for comedic purposes (ie, having a female character with a large bust size than usual). I'm aware it's the internet and people will jack off to stuff like that regardless, but it's something I find funny.

Wonder of any tips on how to draw cute critters with human proportions.

>>1954201
just copy your fav artists that do that.

>>1954208
Interesting. Then how did those artists go about drawing like that, and the artists before them?

Wondering if there's more insight on how this style became a thing and would like to learn how to go about it so I can apply such techniques in my work to look more natural.

>>1954209
Trial and error.

>>1954201
Now that is kinda furry

>>1954211
Oh... okay...

>>1954212
What exactly is considered furry and what isn't?
I feel like anything anthropomorphic is considered furry by default, no?

>>1954215
who cares draw what you like mofo.

>>1954120
This is looking really good, would like to see more of your stuff!

Time for new thread guys

New Thread:

>>1954228
>>1954228
>>1954228

>>1954152
>supposed to be a delicate loli.
She's also supposedly capable of slicing a man in half effortlessly,
I really like when people draw the 2hus in such a way that reflects their true power and nature.