/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1945645
Coloured them. Thoughts?

>>1945648

>>1945648
>>1945649
These actually look pretty cool but might I suggest simplifying your masses? It really has an awesome Yoji Shinkawa vibe going, but since nothing is really unified it's kind of hard and unpleasant on the eyes. I'll do a short paintover if you'd like to see what I mean, but looking at any of Yoji's work should work.
>That sword on Nightmare
Nice.

>>1945660
I don't know what I'm looking at but it's pretty cool

>>1945668
Also forgot to say, don't forget your focal points dude. Emphasize the stuff you really want people to look at. Artorias's mask should be a solid point, and some things on his armor. Nightmares arm and sword (and the eye) as well. The sword looks great for that reason. Try for contrast through value, shape and more/less detail. I mean granted you're probably better than I am so I may not be giving the best advice - but it just looks a little messy. I'm gonna try out an exercise that's similar now though that you've inspired me.
>Value study - Pure black/white/grey on existing characters
>Shinkawa style
Bring it on.

any critique regarding color?
or anything

>>1945697
Far (shadow) eye is more emphasized than the close one. More contrast/colors going on, but the rest of the area around it is less detailed. Bring that up to the detail level, or darken it so the other eye takes the lead. As it is my eye is kind of like
>That one really clear eye
>Nose is blurry
>The other eye keeps me there with the color contrast change but that section is blurry so its kind of unpleasant.
Also lead down to the lips somehow, that looks great.

some sketches from life

I wish I had gotten into these threads and started learning how to color and render sooner. Now I fortunately have a really good commission that unfortunately requires me to do a really good job of it and I've had hardly any practice.
Anyone have any good tips for coloring for print? Should I just color in cmyk mode or just rely on the gamma (?) warning? I have an old version of PS, I'm not sure if its warning system is still valid.

>>1945681
>>1945668
Lots of good advice there, man. Thanks a lot.

>>1945733
Shame you are studying this in greyscale since the use of colour in the image is one of the most striking components of it. Also be careful in how you define things--for example your hood looks blotchy whereas the original is created such that it describes a material texture.

>>1945730
Welcome bud.

>>1945740
I agree with this >>1945740, a big component of it was Mullins' use of color (especially complementary ones). Surely it looks good and accurate, but depending on what you're looking for you may want to try to work closer to how Mullins went about creating it. For one, he probably refined everything at an equal level and then only continued at the end where the polish work need be - Ezio's armor and clothing.

Have your own fun with it too, there's no point in recreating a perfect copy. Mullins did that already.
Don't forget to watch his use of varied detail to create focal points as well (I find that when people start with sketches of outlines on stuff like this they miss that point often when they render). Draw and imply your own people down there with a few simple brushstrokes like he did. Change a building in the background to be a spire or something.

i was painting when suddenly this bitch popped out the bushes!

>>1945772
here's some face practice.

Tried some brushes I found.
Ref from >>1944543

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>>1945724
If anyone has some advice or tips for my question I'd be really grateful.

>>1945735
About a week, maybe a bit more. I'd basically look for blender tutorials with a lot of views that were geared towards beginners. They're usually a how to make 'x'. The better ones mention keyboard shortcuts and commands, and why they have to do them. IIRC there were a few good ones by blendercookie. Specific problems could be solved by googling, as there are apparently tons of forum archives out there.

The figure I made right after learning most of the basics. Since it's planar, it's made only with meshes instead of incorporating the sculpting tools built in. Most parts are made by adding a base form (cube, sphere, cylinder) then moving around vertices and adding new vertices until it's close to the shape you want.

You can then set up a rig so that you can easily pose the figure. Most figure rigging tutorials will show you how to rig things in a way that deforms the forms as it moves. To keep forms stiff and rigid like a mannequin I looked up machine rigging tutorials.

For the specific reference I made, that part only took a few minutes. I just posed the armature, added cylinders to make the tree, and added a light source and planes to reflect the light.

>>1945847
ok thanks. I have downloaded some blender tuts from cgpeers so i think they will make me learn blender faster then your YT vids. they show erything you need to know about blender.

>>1945834
I'm assuming you keep your ref on your canvas for easier vertical measurements. I'd try to steer away from that and place the ref on a separate monitor if you have one, or in it's own window that's a different size from your canvas. I feel like right now you might be going into autopilot with your vertical measurements, but you're neglecting your horizontal measurements. A lot of widths are either too wide or too narrow, and this messes with your overall proportions.

I'm also not a fan of your brush usage. You have a lot of coarse textures in the skin that read like stone. A lot of your edges are either too crisp, or too choppy from that coarse brush. Be sure you take the time to correct those, whether it's with a smart gaussian blur with masking, or using the smudge tool, or painting it in with a soft-edged, low opacity/flow brush.

>>1945856
Oh yeah, that definitely seems more useful and thorough. To make the sort of refs that I am, you don't need to venture into too much depth. If you want to make something industry-grade I imagine it would take quite a bit of time to learn everything you need to know.

>>1945834
Shadows are darker on the ref. Pay more attention to the edges, flip your canvas often.
What is intriguing though is the transition between the flat line drawing with blurry hair on your first image and the much more confident value drawing on your second image.

>>1945730
I went back and did a paintover to try and channel my inner Yoji. Man his work is nuts. I wish I had more time to work on this because it looks like crap in some spots, but I got a LOT of notes on how he gets his signature style. I'll share them in anyone is interested. Couple things though that anyone in passing might like:

>Example A - If you need to darken the value of something but only work on 1 layer, and don't want to erase/redo anything, put a layer above it with the darkness you want and set that to multiply.
>B - The brushes that worked best were chalky and oil-pastel types with absolutely no change in opacity. There's almost never gradients in his linework, everything has to maintain that clean, "inky" feeling.
>C - It's really easy to get the silhouette you want (and especially that lost/found line he loves to use) if you make it the object all black first and just erase out and then add small value changes later.
Most important things I noticed
>His shape design is incredible and completely lines up with his linework
>In everything he does he unifies the canvas with the picture itself to get that feeling. So lost and found lines and using the canvas' value itself become a part of it

Still don't really know what I'm doing with cloth, and the right arm's too long, but I'm pretty happy with how it's turned out. Completely ripped off of Richey Beckett, I know.

Completely ripped a lot of it off of Richey Beckett, I know, but I'm still trying out different styles. Still don't really know what I'm doing with cloth, and the right arm's too long, but I'm pretty happy with how it's turned out.

re-work of a super old depiction of "the ghetto space warlord" from some random /b/ final boss thread

how autistic is it

>>1945929
fixed it

>>1945941

Perfect.

>>1945943
agreed. your a consummate amateur. keep it up.

I plan to remove the lineart. but since I have never done this before I dont know how the final piece is gonna look :T... any tips?

>>1945972
Be brave anon

Help.
I started off liking what I was doing but then when I tried to fix the anatomy I lost the gesture.

>>1946016
Try drawing the box for the hips, and instead of it facing the front and down, turn it so that it faces front, down and to our left. Be sure to emphasize the tilt as well, unless she's supposed to be seated on a flat plane.

>>1945972
Try setting the lineart layer to multiply and lowering it's opacity quite a lot. Since you already have the layer underneath the lines done, you now create a new layer on top of the lines and start painting opaquely. Try to think more in terms of a painter, and less like you're coloring a drawing from a coloring book, if your goal is to get rid of lines. Define forms with planes and value.

Hand, arm and Pilots are next on the fix list.

>>1945929
>>1945941
>dat dick

>>1945929
>>1945929
>gay niggers in outerspace
dude i literally just got fucking blocked form facebook for a week for posting that

>>1945972
Those lips are really plump and sexy.
I like it

>>1945972
You just have to believe.

One of several 10min portrait doodles from ref I made tonight.

>>1946050
Spooky as fuck. 10/10.

Look into improving your brush technique. Even if it's 'your style'.

>>1946050
Brush strokes are very splotchy, especially around the edges of all of your shapes. I'd try practice painting with just a basic round and no texture. Use brushes larger than you think you need, and focus on defining planes.

Your values also need some work, as there's too much white and flatness to the face, but that might be mostly from using a ref with poor lighting.

>>1946015
>>1946023
alright, thanks for the advice!
>>1946044
thank you! I´m glad you liked them,these might be as well the sexiest lips i´ve drawn

>>1946019
I tried, but I think it's just as bad if not worse.
I'm really struggling to not make it looking 'down' on the pelvis. I guess I should go back to using refs.

>>1946056
>>1946053
i tried to give it watercolor look, but i been getting this alot, i might as well just blend it together. thanks for the advice.

window study
the sun moves too quickly

>>1946075
colors are great man

>>1946075
nice colors

>>1946060
Well, what's the action exactly? Is she seated? Is she reclining? Is she floating?

>>1945864
I do use it on the same canvas, I hate using the ruler thing to check for errors but I totally noticed the width problem about halfway into it. More so with the eyes, but felt as if the whole head was thinner.

I've just downloaded the brush pack in the OP, I was experimenting somewhat, or rather still have a bunch to learn about it. I haven't messed around with mask or blur yet either.

>>1945877
I flip the canvas about every 30 minutes. Up until this one, my other ones started straight with values. I kept misplacing the facial features and as I worked they would slowly shift to where they were supposed to be. It was suggested to me that I should still " draw" and well I think it helped save time in the long run.

All screenshots were 30 minutes apart, I ended up spending a deal of time drawing it out.

Okay I'll just try once more.
Are there any rule of thumb kind of tips when using color that help make sure the color stays within printing range? Should I keep everything light? Saturation low or midrange or ANYTHING like that would really, really be helpful, please /ic/

anybody see the dam keeper yet?

>>1946090
cmyk color space is that which is reproducable by a printer. You'd need to change the color mode from RGB to CMYK to check on what the colors will end up looking like.

That's one part of the puzzle. The other is that different monitors and printers are calibrated differently. For professional print shops, they should have their own color profile where you could apply it to a properly calibrated monitor and get a good idea of what the printer will produce.

I can't provide any more information than that.

>>1946110
Well, at least you replied, which I appreciate. Unfortunately this is for someone so I won't be able to go double check at the printer they'll be using, but I'll see what I can do. I have a friend who's worked for them before and says the printer is very good and he was able to color in rgb, which I heard is better for keeping the colors lively, so I guess I'll just use the gammut warning and maybe do a test print myself before sending the final. Thanks, anon.

>>1946082
I was sort of going for a floating uncomfortable but elegant pose. Generally form over function, but still possible if you had the right support/null gravity.

I gave up and polished the turd, I'll work on the pelvis another time. Thanks for your interest!

>>1946124
hips look huge compared to tarso. jus size it down

Quick one before bed.

>>1946155
Figured I'll also post an updated verson of this since some people were interested.

I have a feeling I fucked up the arms.

>>1946124
Maybe something like this? I tried twisting the hips to our left but looking at it again I think it can be pushed even further.

>>1946163
>I have a feeling I fucked up the arms.
I have that suspicion as well. On a separate layer, draw out the whole head underneath the helmet, and draw the rest of the nude body/skeleton, focusing on base forms and whether something is coming towards or receding from the viewer. That's the easiest way to check. You could also try the pose in a mirror or take a photo of it to get a gist of the proportions and positioning you need.

How did I do so far, any suggestions?

>>1946163
actually, hand width is a little thin. that said, since you have big burly armor on, you should consider making a definite skeletal shape, because things look off if they're compared to other objects bigger or smaller to them, which is true especially in your case, since this type of body armor doesnt exist.

>>1946209
the fawn trend is long over and dead

>>1946213
I don't know what that means but ok

Theres something off with her pose and I cant pinpoint it. Any crits welcome !

>>1946221
Her legs are stunted.

>>1946235
I can't decide if this is a tomboy or an overly feminine dude.

>>1946245
why not both

>>1946258

>>1946221

You don't fix the pose AFTER you've painted the whole picture. Get that stuff done in the drawing before you paint (and don't waste your time trying to fix it now).

>>1946235
>>1946245
add supple lips

>>1946221
hips are wayyy too low.
legs are too short.

spend more time on the drawing side of things next time.

>>1946209
>suggestions?
read the sticky.
have a look at the "book" section.
read said books.
return here 4 months later.
but before you return here, you will go to the beginer thread and make friends first.

now off with you, your adventure starts now, i wish you all the luck.
watch out for sharks.

>>1946050
edge control
.
use a different brush for a change.

>>1946209
I would quickly put whatever finishing touches on this you desire and drop it. It is showing a huge lack of fundamental knowledge. Try another portrait but work from a reference. You NEED a reference because you have no idea what a face looks like. It's the same for all beginners.

>>1945697
Looks like there could be more yellow. Too much forest green

>>1945926
if you are going to use stippling, you have to go slow.
it feels as if you have rushed through some places, leaving the marks too varied.
SLOW DOWN.

>>1945732
2spooky7me

>>1946235
>anime

Is this okay so far?

sorry to anyone who's seen this multiple times, but its my latest drawing and i am kinda stoked about it.

>>1946508
I would say the riders leg is disconnected as of now

>>1946508

way too little there to say

>>1945926
Your stipple kicks so much ass!

>>1946060
Second draft is the best, most recent looks the same except a bit fatter and kind of like her form began to melt.

i like to pretend i'm mullins when i'm drunk.

>>1946163
>merc.wip - Female Edition

>>1946221
This is awful. You've done so well with everything but the anatomy, and you can't just easy fix the anatomy after the piece is finished.

>>1946521
the anatomy is about as bad as everything else, if the artist were to correct the drawing it'd still only be half a good picture.

it's fine for someone in development though. in depth crit would help, i'd do it myself but i only crit crits - because i'm a fuckstick :p

>>1946535
does squidward have ears though?

i have stuck with black and white for years, trying to figure out colors, here are 3 tries, i tried to use some color theory but yeah, I'm not so sure

>>1946541
As a digital artist, what I did was try to guess the swatches of a photograph/part of a photograph, based on the light intensity, color temperature and such.

After like the 5th practice session, I got the hang of it. Just gotta worry about not getting too saturated, but I don't think traditional artists have to worry about that with lesser colors to choose from.

>>1946514

Thanks a lot, but I still need tonnes of work like other anon said.

>>1946541
they look okay..very much black and white pictures with a little bit of colour added though, rather than colour pictures. if you get what i mean.

your choices seem okay. bit OTT but that's 100% normal for someone new to colour.

once you get your eye in you'll probably be in the right spot, is definitely one of those things you need to do rather than read about.

>>1946546
You know whats funny? they literally are black and white drawings that i added color to, thanks for the advice!

How feel?

>>1946550
Postin ref.

>>1946519
Mullin is not praised for his abstraction but rather his abilty to abstract materials etc. Your comp has no read or subject matter, it doesn't have to mind you. But try and play around with the placement of shapes a bit more. Arrive at a "pleasing" point. Then the subject paints itself.

>>1946553

yeah yeah good points. but i really was just playing with brushes, shape, texture. it just feels so unbelievably good to me. making a stroke. it's so incredibly satisfying. i could sit there all day just making strokes and overlapping shapes.

maybe i should try to become the first digital abstract painter...

>>1946550
so close, but yet so far.

keep it up daddio, you're doing okay but you need to relax into it a bit more and keep those values organised and consistent.

..and don't do a big thick outline like that, those outside edges are even more important than the inside ones.

>>1946550
darken your values!!!

>>1946550
Your study is lacking in some parts; wrong proportion as well as lack of value range, resulting in less depth. Protrude (nose, cheekbones) and sink (eye sockets) more.

Maybe get a reference that's simpler to observe, with minimal texture and less tiny complex details.
That way you can focus more on the structure instead.

any thoughts?

>>1946558
Th-thanks, Anon.

>>1946563
I only used one pencil for this so that's the darkest I can do

>>1946576
I wanted a more difficult ref. Guess I should tone it down. Thanks, anon.

>>1945648
>>1945649
your really close to something good but ur use of blotches as outlines is, for lack of a beter word, gross.

>>1945660
that is the fucking best left4dead zombie idea ever, or alien white trash. either way i love the idea and technique

>>1945732
its all wrong, u need to learn technique

>>1945772
practice looks better than the real thing, unless u wanted the real thing to look that crappy

>>1946581
what's that supposed to be

i like it, stirs imagination

>>1945879
way fucking better

>>1946026
almost perfect, so close....

>>1946050

>>1946513
agreed

>>1946535
meh, if ur trying to get an emotion accross ur failing, alot more shading and lighting would help

>>1946541
nice

>>1946593
i wanted to draw a city/village into a mountain. kinda didnt turned out how i imagined it.
i'm still learning

some mixture between aztec and helenistik thing.

>>1946163
god i fucking hate those merc wips type of bs you constipation artists like to do. Its as boring as celeb portraits.

>>1946608
>constipation artists

i don't know what that means

>>1946599
thx

>>1946589
i know, but im too lazy for that, it will take a long time

Posted in other thread.
saw link to this thread.
had posting regret.
here's a WIP

>>1945740
Thanks for the crit! The reason it's being done in greyscale is because it's part of an assignment and it had to be black and white only.
>>1945748
I agree. That's the way I usually work but my assignment was to try and get this to be an almost exact duplicate. I was told it's a similar exercise to bargue plates.

so when does the distortion starts to happen?

>>1946737
the moment you start drawing outside the cone of vision.

>>1946739
but how does one determine where it ends?

>>1946741
ever played metal gear? if you have, then just remember the cone of vision from the guards as shown on your minimap. It's about 60 degrees. Everything outside that cone that angles up to your viewpoints will look really weird and distorted.

>>1946741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvZ_a5_7wrE

>>1946741
>>1946737
http://youtu.be/oUD2QJ3rc_c
http://youtu.be/GWtF0yGQMSg

>>1946221
iunno what people are saying this isnt an easy fix? this is a very easy fix man, the only difficult part may be filling in the background where the robes are covering but jus select the jegs and stretch it up. it looks like the leg proportions are right they are just to far down.

its a great picture, but it really shouldnt have been finished like that :^/

Do you like my robot, guys?

>>1946535
>black/white with color layers
pls

>>1946586
i would say dont worry about darkening it, because i feel it may only seem so light because of the white background; i would suggest coloring around it with charcoal, and seeing how the values hit you then.

How's my composition?

>>1946805
why is there a ladder on a horizontally aligned object?

>>1946805
Composition is a bit boring and leads off the page. The perspective is pretty fucked up too.

Think more about what you want to say with your image and what the best way to say it is.

>>1946829
I assume it's there because of the extreme wind and sand storms.

>>1946839
Since the person on that pipe is not even using the ladderpieces, it would be safe to assume that there is no extreme wind present.
Also some kind of handrail would make much more sense for that matter.

how do you make artsyfancy bg?

>>1945705
i think i fixed it

>>1946276
kinda new to colors, what do you mean by that?

>>1946862
So just because that person is not using it at that exact moment doesn't invalidate it's usefulness.

>>1946541
comon dude.
like really, take a proper picture

>>1946868
whatever, i think it's a pretty stupid design choice and was used only because "it might look cool".
As for other criticism, the perspective is way off, especially the nearest ladderpiece confuses me the most.

Define a general light source first and then add highlights and shadows accordingly.

The person's legs look kinda weird. I think they might be either too short or not forshortened properly (or both).

>>1946895
For a picture, maybe. In a real scenario, that's definitely not a "stupid design choice".

>>1946897
>Your OPINION is wrong
ok.

Grayscale in progress. Critique is appreciated

>>1946906
First of all, get your mad assblast passive aggressiveness outta here. I didn't paint that picture.

Second, try working on an oil rig sometime, see if you change your mind. The only thing about it I would change is the frequency those ladders appear at, I'd remove one from every 3 of those.

>>1946911
>mad assblast passive aggressiveness
I only told him that i think his decision to put those ladderpieces on a horizontally aligned object is stupid and that a handrail would (in my opinion) make much more sense. (on an oilrig you wouldn't find any ladderpieces like that anyways, i don't know what let's you make that assumption, but you can show me pictures to back up your statement of course)

That is called feedback. If he changes it or not is up to him and i don't give a single fuck if he does.
Hence i don't understand how you might assume that i am "mad assblast passive aggressive".

oh and btw, getting this mad over someone's opinion is kinda emberassing, especially if it is not even your own work.

>>1946933
Also i never implied that it was your piece.
But the fact that you denied that it was yours, without someone saying so, let's me assume that in fact it is your own work.

digital kinda fun. a little too fun if you ask me.

maybe
>>1946953
can learn from
>>1947002

>>1947008
doode that guys a veteran, fuck yourself. he makes some decent art for mspaint.

>>1947010
yeah as guy that made lobster drawing i approve of mspaint guy. with what he's working with he makes consistently playful and interesting imagery.

>>1946026

wow

A big thanks to the anons in the other thread for the help they gave me. I am merely turd polishing and I really really hate that I can't seem to shirk stylization in the way I colour my crap and in the way I draw faces in the stuff I do from imagination.

>>1946508

Horses can't really bend their heads like that whilst rearing because then they would topple over. It's just not an economic movement.

>>1947019
the legs are a tad to low, and she looks older, like a milf. if thats what you are going for the face is perfect.

>>1945645
>shit tier concepts

Hey guys, loving the talent in this thread today. Just wanted to share with you guys one of my more "political" works. Crits please.

>>1947101
Hard to distinguish the clown body, everything is too under saturated. Make the light shining on the fallen ice cream brighter so it strikes the eye more.

>>1945645
AN ADVENTURE THROUGH TIME AND SPACE

>>1947013

>>1947013
thank you, i like some of your works too

>>1947101
thats deep

>>1945775
google Supraorbital ridge.

draw skulls all night

Didn't get much done today.

>>1947125
??
no lo comprendo D:

>>1945645

>>1947236
ref

>>1947236
lips need to be bigger, the nose isnt flat enough, eyes not bugged out, and wheres the gapped teeth?

>>1947245
also doesn't look like he's had enough of these motherfucking snakes like in the ref

>>1946026
Added the basis for the clouds, hand, arms and pilots.

Trying to get the male pilot a "hot blooded" felling and my biggest challenge yet, giving the female a qt 3,14 feeling.

Colors are not final.
>>1946595
Still working on it, I don't think I can live up to your expectations though.
>>1947014
Thanks.

>>1947014

samefag.

>>1947260
still better than jellyfag, superior top kek.

hello again

>>1947277
>white bread and burnt toast sharing a drink
whatever as long as they dont reproduce

Picture from a month or two ago. How do I get gud scrub?

>>1947262

you think you are a better artist than me?

>>1947294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI9t19V6fu8

>>1947295

why would i be jealous of you, you're really not very good.

>>1947299
>says the jelly

>>1947300
>says the samefagging bad artist

>>1947304
must be jelly day today!

>>1947304
>saying hes bad when he clearly isnt
the jellos are too much to handle

>>1947304

Who let the jelly out? puddi puddi puddi puddi~

Struggling with composition. Is it better with or without the dog? Or do neither work?

Picture from a month or two ago. How do I get gud scrub?

>>1947327
I think the dog is nice

>>1947328
you forgot the picture matey

>>1947327
> Struggling with composition. Is
> it better with or without the
> dog? Or do neither work?
I think the dog is nice

>>1947307
>>1947311
>>1947320
not even him but jeezey dude chill "jelly" is the most pathetic self serving thing you could say, Why not just tone down the ego a bit k?

How's this for a beginnerfag

>>1947336
already samefagging I see

>>1947327
I think the because of the snow, there's a strong contrast with the dog but also with the man. So the eye is constantly going back and forth between them because of the way the dog is looking back at him. If you just want the man, crop out the snow. If you want an additional story telling element in that space, leave the dog.

>>1947327
Well, you have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of adding the dog. Does it add anything to the story? Or is it just to fill space? I would rethink what you're trying to tell with the piece. Without the dog, it just seems like a man in the snow. With the dog, well now its a man and a dog in the snow.

>>1947339
hey, toast guy here. stop please.

>>1947327
Definitely keep the dog. It adds to the narrative and balances out the comp.

That said, I think the cropping is too tight. The head might also be out of perspective when you consider the eyeline, even if it is tilted downward. It feels like we're viewing the guy's head as a whole from above instead of below.

>>1947327
>>1947350
Looking back I might be wrong about the head being off, so scratch that.

>>1947327

i think you need the dog to create a sense of depth. without him there's a foreground element missing. i'd just drop his value. his pose is great imo, nicely leads the eye to the character. you just don't want to give the impression that the whole illustration is about the dog which it kinda has right now. i think.

>>1947339
this thread isn't for you fucking faggots to have a bitch fight, this is for artwork and critique. Shut the fuck up you pitiful cunts.

>>1947362
nice irony mr. samefag

>>1947327
id say put the dog behind the man, because they are both nice, unless the dog IS the center of your attention.

>>1947332
>>1947341
>>1947343
>>1947350
>>1947358
Thanks for the feedback guys. Seems the dog will stay then since it adds to the story and perspective and you guys feel it works compositionally. I'll just have to work on changing how much attention it gets. I'll probably do something like >>1947358 and just bump down the contrast (the saturation stuff is neat too, I'll have to experiment with that).

>>1947364
oh great now this guys samefagging too

>>1947378
thanks for proving my post

Tips on hatching?

>>1947389
holy shit toss into the fucking garbage.

>>1945972
what ive got so far... toughts?

>>1947389

study everything.

>>1947391
already did with your bad at blowjob mom

>>1947389
Start with line quality. Practice until you can make consistent evenly space equal length strokes.

Apply to simple forms like spheres and cubes.

Then go to portraits.

>>1947393
Stop depending so much on line for your black and dark values. Go darker in the nose area and lip creases.

>>1947396

>>1947413
I was expecting more of a fight, too easy man.

>>1947393

Go easier on the um 'whatever those upper lips lines' are called. They are not this defined upon a real humans. Make it appear softer, it creates a unwanted sense of artificiality when you accentuated the area.

I know it's edgy af, but I got "blood magician" as a prompt. Problems? Tips?

Aye

>>1947468
I think blood themed things are cool to design. I would personally suggest to use a red motif throughout the design of the character to accentuate the theme of blood.

Draw the whole figure, instead of just a little portrait so you can really get in there and figure out who this blood magician is. Do a lot of sketches and try to resolve the design. You can always "pretty" it up later after you have come to a good design.

I think this image serves as a good template for a blood theme character. She's obviously not a magician, so just derive inspiration from it. The name is Skarlet from mortal kombat if you want to find more refs.

>>1947480
some 1 is having fun ;D

Give me some critique, pls

>>1947522
im confused... is she suposed to be tilting at us or is a profile view?

>>1947260
Christ, I hate doing this, sorry everyone. I never once replied to any of the posts taking part of this chain since I opted not to care and go to bed instead.

I will admit however that I saw the start and could at any point jump in and at least try to stop it, but I doubt it would have made any difference and I didn't want to be a part of this petty drama.

Again, sorry everyone.

>>1947522
looks like you got conflicted on the angle of view, either fucked up reference or symbol drawing. your mind telling you that " oh, there's another eyebrow over there right?" so you put it in. the fix is simple. cut down the eyebrow and change the positioning of the eye. also I wouldn't use such a strong texture on her collar

is it me or is that red from transistor? if so thank you for drawing my waifu form the unofficial GOTY that should have been first on every list.

if not, ignore my autisim

>>1947529
>>1947527
Thx, i'll try to fix in profile view

LoL
Sketchy

sketch shitty rocks while trying out new brushes

>>1947550

Mother of god l2resize

>>1947550

>5486 x 3200

who the fuck draws at such a resolution?

doodled some shyt.

I like this. Thoughts?

>>1947480
dig the happy person. like his face.
>>1947358
background is erkcellent. keep the dag. orange and yellow on the dogs ribs does not make sense. dudes cloak shit and gun are cheese together, but the baggy sleeve looks too nice to drop.

>>1947637
>orange and yellow on the dogs ribs does not make sense

yes it does. the light bounces back up and saturates the crap out of the fur.

>>1947638
if light reflected from the snow is supposedly creating that effect, then that which is beneath the dag is too dark.

>>1947641

arguably so, yeah. but the illustration > rules of physics

>>1947643
perhaps the bright white on the underside of the dog is throwing me off, then. i still think that the background is jizzworthy, the way planes are represented.

>>1947644
yeah but probably it should be toned down anyway, unless we're supposed to be super aware of the dogs belly for some reason.

>>1947646
regarding the belly; its edge would be a good one to blend in to the grey of the snow. close enough values. would looknice.

i want to be able to paint faces from imagination in different lighting situations
any help?

>>1947671
references.

Light intensity and light travel.

>>1947636
Another drawing but a different angle.

>>1947611
As in too small or too large?
Just in case you weren't aware, drawing large and the resizing the final image to a smaller one "adds details".

Doing ugly ass shit!

http://imgur.com/a/CVLzz

>>1947257
Got a place I can follow you on?

>>1947468
boom baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fqz4qWqaX0

>>1947593
AAAAHHHHH

>>1947643
>physics
>lighting

>>1946733

thoughts on this one?

>>1945648
I enjoy this style right here!

>>1947257
Details and fixing stuff.
>>1947724
Please don't hate me for using blogspot.
joakimduell.blogspot

>>1947019
Honestly, doing more gestures will really help you. This looks hella stiff and your proportions are off. Check out Steve Huston and Glen Vilppu.

>>1947236
Get a solid drawing before you start painting, otherwise you'll be fixing mistakes forever. Having a better understanding of facial planes will help, too. Oh... and don't draw the glasses before you draw what's underneath them. You're guaranteed to fuck up that way.

>>1947622
Pretty cool

Trying a level design, drawing to painting

>>1945645
Quick study work

>>1947913
level design needs direction m8 remember that.

30 mins speed paint

I sketched out this concept a few months ago.

>>1947923
I was worried that it will explode when i enlarge it so i didnt .

>>1947923
>>1947941
allahu akbar

Is anything wrong with this, guys?

>>1947973

Either his head is much too large or his arms and shoulders are far too small.

>>1947974
Okay, I wasn't sure. I'll make the shoulders/arms bigger then, thanks.

>>1947935
teehee

>>1947974

You might want to look at the shape of his cranium too. Get ref.

owl in progress

>>1947974
>>1947984
How's this? I could only find ref of a woman doing the pose so I did my best to translate it.

>>1945645
This ones called "A Gift"

>>1945648
>>1945649
ayyy it's the dude from the /v/ drawthreads!

>>1947393
I remember you posting about how to get rid of lines. You're still relying on line too much, especially around the features of the face. You're too used to thinking about these areas in terms of drawn symbols instead of 3D forms with major planes. Your lighting is also flat and ambiguous, making your job of painting planes much more difficult than it needs to be.

I tried a paintover to address the planes and the lighting, but I don't know how helpful it actually is. Either way I spent time on it so I might as well post. Ideally you'd look for multiple refs to nail everything down correctly. Find a ref for the lighting - use your own face and a lamp if need be. And find refs to help you establish the likeness you're aiming for. I destroyed likeness in my attempt, but that's what refs will help with.

First painting piece I've ever actually finished. Sounds ridiculous but it's true. There's tons of lighting and anatomy issues but... Those are easy to work on. For the longest time my biggest obstacle was FINISHING things. I feel like I'm starting to get over that, which is a big step for me. I sat my ass down and didn't let myself go to bed until I was done. Which forced me to accept some things were beyond repair and I just had to work with it, rather than giving up, or telling myself I'd 'fix it later'. It's a weird feeling.

Not really looking for feedback on the piece so much as, if you have the time, what 3 things should I focus on most for my next set of studies, judging by it? And how do you guys deal with what I'm talking about above? Do you just put a deadline on yourself?

Right now I'm thinking some heavy portraiture and fabric/fold studies. Maybe some hands?

>>1948056
woah... it does help,quite a lot. thank you for taking your time on helping me with this issue, is just that when i go to darker values i feel the face looks messy,but i guess i just need to study more.

>>1947522
If you don't know the structure of the head and it's subparts well enough, then gather refs to use. Think through the perspective of the head and keeping everything consistent, as you have parts that lean heavily towards a profile view and parts the lean towards a front view. An almost profile view can work well, but you might need to shoot some refs of your own head under the right lighting to figure things out.

Tried a paintover to correct a few things. The important stuff is what's shown in the middle step. I'd advise developing some sort of system for reliably constructing the head - especially when you're drawing without a model. I also drew a skull beside it to show how the construction I use is mostly based on the skull, the only different being the added sphere for the eyeball, the added nose and mouth. Also note how the mouthline can often be placed by following the bottom edge of the cheekbone. Read through your Vilppu, Hampton, Bridgman, Loomis, etc to find what ways of constructing the head work best for you.

how can I make her figure more aesthetically pleasing? Anyone have advice on making an ink-wash style painting of her figure with acrylic on wooden panel?

>>1948086
Try painting a few still lifes of simple forms like eggs or vases - preferably things with a consistent local color. Using a lamp as a single light source, pay attention to the value difference between the light half and the shadow half of the object. There's usually a range of values that can end up looking believable. As long as as the shape of the light mass vs the shape of the shadow mass is correct, it will look good. The values contained within each mass is easy to adjust if the contrast is too high or too low.

>>1947908

thx honey

>>1948074
>what 3 things should I focus on most for my next set of studies, judging by it?
1) Structure of the head
2) Structure of the hands
3) Painting a scene. Though it's hard to judge here, I think you could use the practice of integrating an object into it's environment. A lot of your outlines - though interesting - are flattening your overall image. To that extent I guess also pay attention to your edge control.

>>1948104
Perfect! Thanks so much!

All things I definitely felt. Especially the last one. The hard outlines were pleasing but they came at a cost that wouldn't be worth it if there was a background.

>>1948074
Pelvis is a bit long, arms are short.

Thoughts/ideas? I'll post an example of what this is inspired by/the type of feel i want to give it.

I'm gonna go back over the figures when I clean it up to make sure the anatomys right. I used a spiderman doll for a few of the figures but it's extremely stiff. Does anyone know of any cheap poseable things? I was thinking of making a sculpey figure with each part separate and using something really flexible to put them together..

>>1948125
inspiroations

>>1947935
I like the concept.

>>1948125
I like the concept a lot but you might want to make the non-primary figures overlap or touch each other in a way that leads the viewers eye through all of them. You can notice that technique used in the picture you referred to as your inspiration, especially the ones in the foreground near the focal point. Some of the figures on yours already do this to some extent but I'm sure you could push it a bit more for a more coherent composition

Some thumbs
I lack storytelling

>>1948149
That's one of the things i was worried about, they kind of look like a patter all evenly spaced. I just noticed in the ref that there's a sort of spiral with the distances of the figures, maybe I'll try and pull something crazy like that off

>>1948125
The problem is that none of the figures really relate to each other at all. They're all in different poses equally spaced out and not interacting with each other or in any connected way.

When you look at >>1948129 there's a nice circular rhythm in the composition built by the poses flowing through each other and around the central figures. The composition works as a whole whereas yours feels slapped together.

>>1948154
>>1948155
You might get somewhere by adding drapery or smoke or something that can connect them. Leaving the central figure all alone can also highlight her in contrast to the others if you wish to push her even further.

Hand seems a bit awkward to me. Wrong position in relation to the rest of him?

>>1948160
Loosen up the hand pose a bit, looks too stiff. But other than that, looks good so far.

>>1948162
This is neat

Theres always room for improvement

Too tired to work on this any longer, thoughts?

also, I really like what >>1947002
is doing, for some reason. Something about the clean lines and vibrant colors gets me.

Something seems off in her left leg and tail.

>>1948180
of course i'd forget to resize it

>>1948181

>furry

It's all off.

>>1948155
Thank you, that's helpful. I think i'll try and do clusters instead of having them spread so evenly

>>1948180
the girl with the red shirt. her neck is a bit long. of course, still a WIP, but work on those hands. they look a bit off. the girl w the black, her waist area looks a TAD bit too long.

Yesterday and today's practice.

I'm new to this board :o

pls rate

>>1948219
remember that time when you actually had fun drawing?

>>1947777
>implying physics does not govern light

>>1948203
those are some nice nuggets you drew there.
Cheekbone looks right

>>1948219
this disgusts me

>>1948219

human zerox machine

gridmethod/tracing/drawingonprojection/camerlucida/

not art. just replication of an image. why bother?

Long time no posting, but have been drawing.

Here, value study. fucked up a lot but managed to salvage at almost every turn. Had a lot of fun.

>>1948249
>>1948229
>>1948238

Fucking retards

>>1948219
Nice rendering but the eyes and mouth are a bit uncanny valley. dont be afraid to add some darker value to the whites of the eyes

I spent 2 hours on this. Some feedback would be nice.

>>1948313
That isnt fun at all.

New thread:
>>1948378
>>1948378

>>1948313

'but it's like that on the image i copied.'

yeah, no. you are the fucking retard made.

>>1948337
The chin is too far forward. The direction of the lighting is distorted by the reflected light on her cheek. Maybe take an artistic license and edit that out until your art work is ready for the final layer. Good work on the lighting on the shirt and arms, but you could have done more with the folds and such in the shirt.

I am working on a larger painting. 6 feet x 5 feet. I am trying to get the composition right The theme is "The artist and the model". Instead of having a bunch of smaller compositions on the 1 large canvas, I decided to scale the main characters up, and this is one.

This is the composition. I will have about 1 foot of canvas above the artists head to work with. I have more detail drawings of the individual components. Just trying to tie it all together. What do others do when it is time to nail the composition?