/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1940011
Your drawing looks decent but you clearly need to learn: Gesture, improve your anatomy and construction of the body and learn how to draw hair properly since you suffer from ''spaghetti hair syndrome''. Also I recommend you look more into shading and value since your drawings look flat.

>>1940044
I will start working on gesture. How do i proceed to learn gesture? No i keep on drawing many poses? Or is there a certain thing i should learn before hand?

Any book recommendations in mind as well that i can learn from? Thanks!

one more question. how does one improve? What is it that you see results in improvements? Is just keep on drawing and drawing until you "get it". Or is there a lot to learn and technical side to it?

>>1940056
The one recommended here always is vilppu who is actually known from his video lessons.
You can check out proko too if you want since its basically the same thing.

So look at the picture and do one or two before you watch them so you have something to compare to afterwards.
As for books Vilppu also has a book '' The vilppu drawing manual'' if you want to read instead of watching.

Also for the hair I'd recommend the prokos video on that too since its rather quick and explains it well.
For the anatomy Elliot Goldfingers book is great but a even tough the text is a bit dry and for the construction Ctrl+paint has
few good tutorials on it and ofc for the books on construction: Loomis

>>1940062
Extremely rarely do you see instant improvement, that is only when you learn something absolutely new.
Seeing improvement (or rather not seeing it) can be frustrating since most of the time its so slow,
I'd say you can see some rarely in days, more in weeks, should be seeing it in months and definitely in years.
If your drawings haven't improved at all in a month look back and ask yourself why
and try to pinpoint it to one thing you are struggling with and learn that thing. If you can't pinpoint why
do a few studies on masters that do the thing you think it is.

Also as an addition you can use these sites for gesture drawing:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/
http://www.quickposes.com/

and for learning properly how to study from masters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfK46nruKM

>>1940067
Great stuff. I really like the image as well, explains it well. I will look up both proko and vilppu.

I will look up all of these. And work in order to learn them. Thank you!

Any more images like those? Tips, and advices? They seem to explain very well to me.

>>1940044
>spagetti hair syndrome
He aint drawing them line by line
You sure know what you are talking about aside from the values

>>1940062
In drawing and painting there are a lot of things that can be wrong, and good.

There are big improvements, and small ones. I'd consider a big improvement to be when one's drawings start to have roundness and volume, and aren't flat anymore. In painting it would be when they can finally control color temperatures correctly (cool and warm colors).

Small improvement may be when you learn to draw a piece of anatomy or object consistently. Perhaps noses, mouths, feet. Being able to draw arms and legs well are big improvements since there's a lot more muscle groups.

Depending on what you're after, you can go it alone as an intermediate and knowledgeable artist and use your experience, and past knowledge to direct your studies. This is quite hard no matter what and never easy.

You should take people's advice when they tell you what you don't know, and what you need to know. So he told you to learn gestures. The great two books on gesture I recommend are Glen Vilppu's Drawing Manual, and Michael Hampton's Human Invention book. I also recommend Glen Vilppu's videos.

In the books you find, you will come across different ideas and fundamental thoughts. Gesture is something you progressively learn and master, it's not all at once, you get better over time. That's why you should learn about it now.

Anyways, you find different pieces of information in your books. In gesture, there is focus on not drawing contours. You draw, maybe think to yourself "Don't draw the contour" "Don't draw the contour." And you should be able to see when you accomplish this aspect, when you have control over it. Then you move on to another aspect.

Another aspect to learning is questioning, curiosity of what you're learning. Why am I learning this? Why does this matter and how can I use this information?

Over time, repeating this process of learning, focusing on things, your art improves. This is long-term improvement and hard for the individual to see, but it happens.

>>1940077
Yes you are right he isn't drawing everything line by line, he has the blocks of hair there,
but look at the girl in top right and bottom rigtght also the left guy in top right he has the blocks but everything inside is basically almost line by line I guess its more of ''scratchy hair'' instead of spaghetti but the learning process to good hair is the same just a different starting point. Beard on the middle guy is more to the right direction.

>>1940074
I don't have many of those which would be relevant I have a few on composition, digital painting,
paneling, framing and so on but nothing you should really worry about now, well expect the one I'm putting in now
which is about lines and its quite important thing to get a hang of early I wish I had since I still struggle with breaking the bad habit of doing hairy lines.

Look at the picture and for more exercises on lines check out Peter Han:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk