/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1931635

hm. leyendeckers women are unreal. his everything is unreal. luis royo also draws some crazy hawt grils m8.

but no doubt milo manara is very high up the ladder.

our very own Jace Wallace (pic)

also "ilikeyoursensitivity" on DA has some amazing colours and shapes

>>1931635

Gibrat

and Vittorio Giardino

>>1931635
>Milo Manara
Is this a joke? His women look like they're all copied right out of playboy magazines from the 80s. They're generic pulp girls.

>>1931662

And this is bad because.... ?

>>1931663
If you don't understand it, there's no point in discussing it.

>>1931666

But we do understand it: You don't like the subject matter and are using it as an excuse to completely write off the artist despite his technical merits.

>>1931635
Loomis.

>>1931635
You haven't looked at enough art.

>>1931669
>pulp
>technical merits

Pack your fucking bags, kiddo.

Mark Crilley

>>1931643
jace is great but still some flaws
we need to go deeper

>Milo Manara

Not to spout the whole "LOOMIS" meme, but I genuinely like his work better. No contest.

>>1931669
Okay, so you really don't understand it at all.

>>1931662
>>1931663
>>1931666
I get it. When regular artists, even porn artists, draw women in the same body type, same makeup application, hairstyle, etc, they automatically become bland and uninteresting. Not every woman has to look like a bikini model or 80's playboy bunny.

Some women are chubby, some have huge cow titties, some are lithe with lovely little a-cups, others are tall, some have nice, juicy booties from fat or firm ones from muscle. Many beautiful women are older moms with tanned, weathered skin from a good long life, the younger ones have flesh so soft that you want to rub your hands and lips upon their whole silky, white and pink bodies. And, while I mention color, let's not forget that different races each have their own merits. Caucasians, Latinos, Blacks, Arabs, Chinese and many others all have their different proportions and styles that make them stand out. And even with all that, their faces all need to have their little quirks, from the shapes and colours of their eyes, to hairstyles and smiles.

Of course, men have their own merits, too, but let's not get into that.

A cultured connoisseur of the human form knows to appreciate all points and variations of the flesh and figure, not just a single one. Different looks give women and men character, and after you're into them, let's not forget that they need a personality to boot, preferably one that goes with their appearance.

If someone draws every single women the exact same way, as in the fashion of Bruce Timm and Milo Minara, they become interchangeable. And unless you're the kind of person who only, ONLY eats vanilla ice cream and pepperoni pizza, then that's not good.

>inb4 tumblr SJW

>>1931756

We understand you're a shitposter who can't draw.

>>1931635

All the women he draws look the same he just changes the hair

Though I have to admit that his first comics made me horny like hell.

>>1931754

It's a painting of a model in a lascivious pose. You're comparing apples and oranges.

>>1931777
>the younger ones have flesh so soft that you want to rub your hands and lips upon their whole silky, white and pink bodies.

>>1931782
I meant chicks from 18 to their twenties, if that's what you're weirded out about, lol. Pedophilia and all related shit is disgusting.

But yeah, that sentence could have been written better.

>>1931785

Yeah they can and should try out new subjects but that doesn't mean that they are shit artists because of it. They're good artists who don't want to leave their comfort zone.

>>1931643


It breaks my hearth that the guy needs to beg money for his medicines, how can a guy with that skill level be so godamn poor?

>>1931788
I never said that they're shit artists, but that their tastes are limited by not trying out new body types, ages and appearances.

And I think we ALL know how hard it is to leave the comfort zone.

>>1931789
It's called not marketing yourself properly, and maybe only doing the same thing over and over again and demonstrating yourself as a one-trick pony.

Alternatively, their medicine could be a billion dollars.

>>1931785
>posts inb4 sjw
>muh pedophilia!
>muh thought crimes!

That's not what I implied at all, it was beautifully written and it filled our minds with pleasant and wonderful thoughts but now you've dun goofed.

>>1931792
Don't judge me with those glares, you silly kitties. I didn't know what was implied with the first post, was it the hand and lip rubbing thing?

>>1931789
>>1931791
How could this guy better market himself than post comments like "oh wow guys, this artwork is great, but if you wanna see some other stuff like this, check out my DA gallery at ______?"

>>1931754
This is what I'm talking about. Unifying form, lovely skin tone, somewhat recognizable face, good, graceful figure, all against a great backdrop. Even with 80's hair, this woman looks nice.

>>1931643
Same with this chick.

I don't like ugly woman, OP

>>1931635
luis royo

>>1931813
>Luis-Royo

I prefer his sketches. The rest seem what this guy said about Manara:
>>1931662

At the end if it is so heavy rendered it's like to look at a penthouse picture from the 90s.

>>1931777
and some men have big penises and some men have small weak penises. Women basically are hungry for the biggest penises, 10+ inches is godly. average is boring

>>1931790
Would you?
If you had a Manara girl or a Royo girl living with you, would you ask them to leave so that you can have a taste of variety with fatties and grannys?

I wouldn't. They achieved their personal aesthetic perfection and most probably true bliss in the realization that they can make all their fantasies true.

>>1931777

What is this namby pamby, white-knight claptrap?

If people actually wanted to look at 'chubby women with cow tits' or 'old moms with weathered skin', pin-up artists would paint them to fill that demand. But no one actually finds that shit beautiful outside of fetish communities and imaginary feminist fantasies.

There exists an objective ideal of female beauty based on instinctively recognizable signifiers of health and fertility that artists across times and cultures have tried to capture, and having weird, leftist notions of fat-acceptance and 'all women are beautiful in their own unique special-snowflake ways!!!' doesn't make you a "cultured connoisseur of the human form", but only delusional.

Also, that woman in your pic is not good evidence for your argument.


p.s. are you chubby and balding? Pretty much every man I've ever heard make the argument that you just did in real life (also male-feminist webcomic artists) has been a chubby, balding, low-testosterone schlub. Pls reply with a picture of yourself for statistical purposes.

>>1931932
How would you explain foot binding then? Feet in no way signify health or fertility that I'm aware of, is completely unnatural, but some cultures decided that was the feminine ideal, tiny feet.

Dressing nice doesn't guarantee "good" dna, but you'd get a lot more pussy/dick with than without. At what point does aesthetic and cultural moors override "natural" compulsion, or vice versa?

>>1931785
How is 16-17 pedo? They almost the same as 18

>>1931940

>some cultures

iirc foot binding is from an emperor having a fetish for feet, it's an imposed culture thing and not a natural evolution.

>Over 30 replies
>More than 20 posters
>In a thread about beautiful women
>Full of SJW arguments about BBWs

>Not one person has asked for a Rubens sandwich

Get the fuck out, all of you.

>>1931959
>muh contrarian fine arts master opinion elitism

Amazing taste anon. Impeccable. Wow. I would have sexual relations with every woman in that amazing painting you've just posted. Even the statue in the top-right would get a good dicking.

>>1931643

I think he's mildly overrated.

>>1931976
>Not wanting to dick women who have what is literally called a "Rubens-esque" physique

What are you, some kind of faggot?

>>1931779

Very true, but that's probably just his ideal, as it's obvious he can draw various types. Even then, she's quite pretty.

>>1931940

small feet correlate to a lot of other typical feminine characteristics that are secondary indicators of good health and child-bearing potential. I shouldn't have to explain proportions on an art board. Small feet, long legs, wide hips, small waist, big breats, small hands, long neck, et cetera: all of these are universally considered attractive female traits across culture.

Find me a culture where giant feet, squat legs, narrow hips, and small breasts are sexually selected for traits in women if you disagree.

>>1931951
that was my point, that it wasn't natural. And there are a few stories why foot binding came about. One suggests a concubine had club foot and had the emperor make binding mandatory so that here feet would be the standard of beauty. A desirable trait that really came from nothing.

>>1932015
>Selected traits

My point was that there's no one defining standard of beauty aside from not looking diseased.

There's women all over the world with one or more of those traits. Are women with undesirable traits somehow vestigial?

Quick search turned up a british study that men prefer small breasts and large asses http://dx.doi.org/10.2224/sbp.2007.35.1.1..

>Why is the burden of proof on me, it's your assertion.

>>1932031

that link is broken.

the fact that healthy women of child-bearing age of all races and cultures conform to a certain body type and similar set of proportions is really all the evidence you need that this particular set of proportions has been sexually selected for by millennia of evolution.

also, you're making assertions here, too, so stop whinging about being called on them.

>>1931997

Manara didn't only draw beautiful women, but he was able to stylize them with a few lines and to draw them by imagination (not always, but mot of the time he draws from imagination).

>>1931813
so many hispanics suck, i feel bad cuz im hispanic, i feel like changing my last name cause of how shitty they are

i mean royo aint bad but thats just so trashy looking.

>>1932117
Reiq is hispanic.
Hes okay, but a god to amatuers

>>1931865
>that's why no black artists
>feels

>>1931796
>I like children!
Yea... no. You'll only get drawings my friend.

Sorry I took long to post back, work was long and I woke up a while ago.

>>1931865
That's right. But there not just one highest standard of sexual attractiveness, is all I'm saying.

>>1931898
I can see that since the artist has the power to create the perfect woman, he can do so. But I feel that there is more than one body type. Even if he doesn't want to go too far out of his comfort zone, he can always play with boob size, skin color, vaginal shape, height, etc.

Take pic related. Not too curvy a torso, small boobs and a pixie cut to boot. But she's still very attractive without having to look like a generic swimsuit model.

>>1931932
I never meant my post to be white-knightish, nor am I trying to give anyone a speech about how people should accept "REAL WOMMYN" or "LOVE AT EVERY SIZE." The chubby chicks I posted represent around 5% of fat chicks, the other 95% obviously being gross or uninteresting. Believe, I'm a total fucking pig when I talk about body types, skin colors and all that jazz. I'm not trying to please an agenda or sound "deep," I'm just talking about the places my boner takes me.

>>1932596
Im right here, silly.

>>1932690
>implying an ANON wouldn't lie

>>1932699
Keep telling yourself that.

>>1932717
what kind of old-ass phone is that

>>1932728
Iphone 4S.
its old, and it used to be new.

>>1932717
as a white man, is it ok to say "niga" casually? Would it offend you? Would it offend your family and friends (who I assume are all black with no exception)?

>>1932730
>would it offend me
nah, unless you are calling me one.

>would it offend family
yeah, they lived through Jim Crow, so they are more prone to being violent when someone calls them Nigga.

>around friends who are black
You gotta be reallly tight with them. They'll check you if you fuck up.

>>1931789
It's called "living in the US". I don't know what medicine he needs, but he's mentioned depression before. So let's take for an example that he takes anti-depressants, that's about 100 dollars per month depending on the type. Add bi-weekly therapy to that and you're already sitting on 300. Just getting your ass diagnosed easily costs you a few grand already. You're completely screwed if you need any medical assistance at all and you don't have money readily growing out of your butthole. Murrica.

>>1932732
How much do you hear it among other black people? Can you give an example of how a white man could say it and it'd be accepted and an example of a black man saying it and being unacceptable?

>>1932840
Should I move out of the US?

Because holy shit, that sucks. American here, I hate having to pay $100-$250 every time I need to visit any kind of doctor. The insurance I have (Blue Cross of California) is total shit, too.

Is there a better country to live in if you're an artist? Preferably one that doesn't have any censorship laws on art and utilizes Freedom of Speech on par with or better than the US. I'd consider the UK, since my dad is a Welsh immigrant and I could apply for dual citizenship, but I hear that everything is expensive, there are economic meltdowns and the radical Muslims are getting more violent.

Willing to learn a new language if need be. Have no real skills besides a long history of part time jobs, volunteer work and art school dropout, so that's gonna be difficult.

>>1932900
>American here, I hate having to pay $100-$250 every time I need to visit any kind of doctor.
What the fuck, only specialities like neurology or actual surgery cost you so much in Mexico and the WHO ranks us equal in developed areas.

How can american doctors be such jews and get away with it?

>>1932861
Not that anon, but whether or not you can use the word around someone depends on the black person you are around. Despite what those bigots on FOX say or the majority of white people think, not all black people refer to each other as 'niggas.' Some are offended and do not use the word at all. Some use it, but do not want to have people who aren't black say it to them. Some use the word and do not mind if people who aren't black say it them, granted that they are friends, close, or tight with.

Just because one black person may be comfortable with with a white person saying it, there are more who aren't and vice versa. You have to, personally, ask your friend and not use one black person as a representative for all black people.

Also, why are white people so fucking obsessed with whether or not they can use the word 'nigga'? I don't go to my Jewish and Chinese friends and ask if I can use the word kike or chink. I don't even ask my white non-Jewish white friends if they mind if I call them honkeys.

>>1932900
This where Americans are fucked up. They'd rather have no medical insurance than to have universal insurance.

>>1932900

berlin motherfucker. the state pays you to go neetmode, if you so wish.

>>1932934
it sounds good

>>1932913
http://www.viralnova.com/hospital-bill/
>murrica

>>1932940
Why was this post deleted? Are the mods being paid by the US govt to keep guys like me in?

US here.
I have to sacrifice health insurance just to eat.
Good thing I aint clumsy

>>1931984
he used to post in the anime thread and get accused of photobashing etc constantly.

>>1933065
>Jace Wallace
Did he explain his method of painting or whatever ? A tutorial or video of some sort ?

I'm surprised I missed him I tend to lurk a lot but I drop off for some time occasianally

>>1933065

Well I'm not surprised about it. That is the first impression I get when I see his works.
Some seem photoshopped 3d renderings and some other a mix of photography and photoshop paint over.

>>1933340
there are videos, some on youtube and a few for purchase. He used to post on the penny-arcade forum's art subforum and he would link to livestreams, of which i saw a few. I actually prefer his older style. I think prior, his rendering wasn't actually as smooth (though still pretty buttery), it looked smooth because of optical mixing since he was sizing his images down upon completion.
His rendering is even smoother now but he's gotten rid of some of the stylistic touches that made it more apparent as illustration (like outlines) but his faces are still really stylized. They kind of look like dolls. >>1931643 would benefit from smaller eyes, imo. I think he used to paint more colorful shadows too, while now his shadows are much more desaturated.

All in all it does create for an aesthetic that looks kind of 'photobashed'.

>>1932975
I don't get it. Do you live in a state that opted out of the Medicaid expansion? Do you live in NY where the minimum payment is like $300 for the crappiest insurance? Or, did you not check out the website? Why don't you have insurance yet?

>>1931796
i'm with you, pedobrother

also this nigger

>>1932597
>small girl
>children
No

>>1934322
I hate it when chicks are adults but they still look like kids. It makes it all weird.

>>1932934
well sense we are on the topic of nigga with a black person responding... how many black people do you think would shit a dick if they knew nigga was from the word nigger, and nigger was from a latin word that meant black...

you think that black would now be considered racist or not?

>>1934364
>It makes it all weird.

>>1933696
personally, i was told i will not get tax credit and anything decent is about 700$ a month and there is a good chance they will not pay the bill when i get sick anyway... so... 8400$ more a year and hope i don't get sick, or 8400$ a year and then sue the insurance for fucking me hard when i do get sick... ah the choices.

>>1934382
not the anon from before but the racial connotations of nigga are fairly obvious, especially in America.

As far as it's usage, it's complicated. Some try to "take back" the word, others have just heard it so much it's normal, like how Google became synonymous for searching out information. To say it's use racist or self hating though is overly simple. Context is important, and I think most who would say that Black people are racist to each other are being willfully ignorant of context in order to start an argument.

>>1934430
i would say for me as a white guy, i heard the word so god damn much that "nigga" is almost used as just a noun replacement much like the way you can use fuck in almost any situation correctly.

sometimes i fucking hate being white just because im 1 word away from being hitler... online i can just self censor FAR easier than i can in real life.

>>1934382
Duh, of course it derives from the word 'negro.' That doesn't change what the word 'nigger' means in America and the history of that word. Lots of words in the American English language derive from other languages. Doesn't change what they mean in the US.

>>1934436
>sometimes i fucking hate being white just because im 1 word away from being hitler

Must be tough being white...

>>1934436
It's a trust thing, it's not as if we black people decided collectively "you" can't use that word. For better or for worse, when I hear nigga from another black dude, I don't have to worry about what he means.

There's too much history/cultural baggage in the US for a white guy roll up on me and say "wusgudniqqua" without me feeling some kinda way. Again, nothing against that individual.

>>1934554
Actually it derives from Latin, 'niger', but Italian and Spanish based on Latin so like whatever.

But yes, black people were referred to as 'negros' too.

>>1934556
>There's too much history/cultural baggage in the US for a white guy roll up on me and say "wusgudniqqua" without me feeling some kinda way.

I feel that white people always seem to conveniently not seem to know the historical context of ANYTHING when it comes to America's racist past against black people, Mexicans, Amerindians, and etc. But when it comes to the Irish, then they know everything.

Predominantly white schools must omit every person who isn't white out of their history curriculum and gloss over Jim Crow which wasn't even that long ago.

>>1934364
Women are oversize children.

past drawing instructor did these

>>1934561
i fucking hated that about school too. history is so fucking boring when it comes to k-12 because all it is is hay our country is great, than out country did some shitty things and finally, you look where out country started... for fuck sake go over a different region of the world for one fucking year... i cant stand american/europe history any more... fuck every white washed aspect of it.

and the reason we don't go into race more than we have to is because kids are fuckign animals who are barely civilized... discussing the finer aspects of racism with people there because they have to be there isn't going to fucking work.

>>1934556
trust me there is a difference between nigga and nigger... as a white guy i will tell you this, i have never seen another white person say nigger and not be racist (outside of the discussion of the word itself) and i have never seen the word nigga said in a racist way

hell, you have to force yourself to say nigger just because it doesn't roll off the tongue quite like nigga does.

at least thats the white person perspective that as a black guy you may never see.

ah... its like fuck is to every other word in the sentence as dude is to nouns... you could replace dude with nigga and be grammatically correct in almost every case.

>>1934561
All of racism is about deliberately removing context when it suits your agenda and then bringing context back when it doesn't. Racists will go on and on about how racism against whites exists too and that the world is a complex place and all that, but then they create a cartoon version of reality where non-white people commit crimes with no economic motive behind it whatsoever (p.s white people commit crimes too). A black twelve year old gets shot by a cop and left to die, nothing racial about that according to racists. But if an unemployed black guy mugs a white guy, then that black guy picked that guy out not for his vulnerability but because of his race. i've been fucking mugged by a black guy and i'm black myself, did the mugger target me because he hates his own race? Its bullshit.

Both fucking sides of the aisle do this, btw, but it annoys me a hell of a lot more when anti-black racists do.

>inb4 wahhhhhh from the shut-ins

>>1934605
>All of racism is about deliberately removing context when it suits your agenda and then bringing context back when it doesn't.

not really trying to get into a /pol/ debate on /ic/, but that's not true. a lot of racism is just about facts, and it's hard not to be racist once you're exposed to the facts. blacks commit violent crimes against whites at a rate several orders of magnitude more than the reverse. Black on white rape occurs at the rate of tens of thousands of incidents per year, but white on black rape is statistically nonexistant. blacks comprise less than 20% of the population, but commit more violent crime than whites, who comprise roughly 70%. These are all easily googleable DOJ statistics, and, if you're honest, you know that this is only the tip of the iceberg.

I'm sure the janitor will be by shortly to delete this post, but I find it annoying that racism is always depicted as a matter of ignorance and hypocrisy. Sometimes it is, but often times it's simply based on reality, and more, it's justified and important for one's own safety. You're never going to stop racism by pretending it's something other than what it is.

>>1934577
I love these. Is your teache the woman standing there?

I'd do her.

Also
>Left to right, I'd bang 3, 5 and 6. I'd screw all of them if they shaved their crotch.

>>1934561
If it makes you feel any better, Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the US" is flung at every college undergrad ever.

>But when it comes to the Irish, then they know everything.
Not really, just that their 'taters got sick so they came to the US and got treated poorly.

Just like how black people tend to gloss over Africans selling each other to Europeans, white people tend to forget the Irish race riots where they protested emancipation of slaves 'cause they didn't want the job competition. Not that it stopped the Irish from fighting for the North, 'cause hots'n'cots yolo.

>>1934618
you aren't looking at the other side of that coin where blacks or other minorities are still discriminated against economically, and how because of the uber rich the black community in the recovery has LOST income compared to everyone else.

white people are usualy better off, so its not a surprise that they would target a white person over a black person, but statistics also show that black on black is a larger majority apposed to black on white.

and you also have to take into account that if it goes to court, black people are convicted at a higher rate than white people, for same crime punishments.

racism cuts both ways, and numbers lie, you can get numbers to show almost anything you want them to.

>>1934625

>>1934625

yeah, I do think that there are a lot of legitimate issues where blacks are disadvantaged.

but if disadvantages due to racism are the reason that blacks commit more violent crimes against whites than vice versa, to be fair, you have to acknowledge that black crime is at least partially the reason that racism against blacks persists. You can't expect whites not to be racist when black people are so dangerous to them, because racism becomes necessary for self-preservation. And don't tell me that the statistics are lying; I grew up in Oakland as a white guy. I didn't have to see the constant news reports and statistics about black on white crime; I saw it up close.

It's easy to say that blacks are being oppressed because they're convicted at higher rates than whites for similar crimes, but if you take into account the cultural context in which those convictions are taking place, then you can see why blacks are not given the benefit of the doubt by police and juries. In a perfect world, individuals would be judged as individuals, but the human brain is a pattern recognition device.

>>1934650
>blacks commit more violent crimes against whites than vice versa

I assume you're citing the FBI stats for murder? At the same time though you're several times more likely to be murdered/victimized by another white person. Violent crime is, for the most part, segregated. At the same time, the narrative is always rampant "Black on Black" crime, or whites being victimized..

And it's a bit of a cop out to say that you can't help being racist. Public speaking can trigger a fight or flight response, but are you in any actual danger? At what point are you accountable for your thoughts?

>t's easy to say that blacks are being oppressed because they're convicted at higher rates than whites for similar crimes, but if you take into account the cultural context in which those convictions are taking place, then you can see why blacks are not given the benefit of the doubt by police and juries

Also whites tend to resent collective guilt/responsibility when it comes to matters of race, even if they've profited from our murky history. So why is it alright for individuals who happen to be black to carry "original sin"?

>>1931777
>>1931932
This is why we have things like anthro and monster girls. You can get a hell of a lot of interesting variety without venturing too far from the ideal proportions.

I do wish more artists would draw sand niggers. They have the most beautiful skin.

>>1932949
>>1932936
>>1932913
>grow up with severe cystic acne
>family can't afford dermatologist
>best years of my life flushed down the toilet
>life literally ruined, regret having been born every day
>just stay on 4chan all the time because why even give a fuck anymore
Thanks America.

>>1934674
>At the same time though you're several times more likely to be murdered/victimized by another white person.

misleading. most violent crime happens between people who know each other, and races tend to self-segregate, but where interracial assault, murder, and rape occurs, it's overwhelmingly black on white rather than the reverse. that's the point. and violent crime is not segregated by any means: that's another misleading use of numbers. black gangs kill each other much more than they kill white people, yeah, but there are still tens of thousands of interracial assaults, murders, and rapes each year.

>And it's a bit of a cop out to say that you can't help being racist. Public speaking can trigger a fight or flight response, but are you in any actual danger? At what point are you accountable for your thoughts?

Public speaking doesn't get you beaten and robbed if you go into the wrong neighborhood. You sound like a white guy who's never lived in a low-income neighborhood where whites are the minority. If you had, you wouldn't compare the fear of getting caught in the wrong part of town wearing the wrong colors (or being the wrong color) to fear of public speaking. That's pretty asinine. I want to say something ironic about white privilege here.

>Also whites tend to resent collective guilt/responsibility when it comes to matters of race, even if they've profited from our murky history. So why is it alright for individuals who happen to be black to carry "original sin"?

gosh, I dunno. why do police and prosecutors and judges, who deal with an overwhelming majority of black criminals all day erry day, eventually become racist? I agree; that's not fair. But it's going to happen anyway, because that's how the human brain works.

>>1934695
Try being bald at 23.

I hate the pressure that you're supposed to be this Adonis who has sex with a different woman everyday and goes mountain climbing, hang gliding and naked horseback riding with Swedish supermodels, all while you're studying to be a Doctor Lawyer, when you're a young adult. It constantly makes me feel like I'm wasting my life.

>>1934697
More racist bullshit: why the hell do I have to carry the guilt of muggers because of my skin color? You go on and on about how racism justified because black on white crime happens, but black on black crime happens too. Why do white people feel like they should be able to avoid the effects of extreme poverty and then go on about covert anti-white racism when they get mugged while black people who get mugged or robbed in black neighborhoods just go on, seeing only individuals who've gotten into stupid and heinous shit? I bet the majority of all black crime (and that's a pretty heinous distinction to make because crime is an economically motivated phenomenon, and not even every unemployed young black man gets into that life christ) is against... other black people.

And believe me anyone who fucking mentions rape in the same breath as jacking cars or even home invasions is a goddam bullshitter. There is no interracial rape going on that isn't more significant than regular rape you nutjob. Why the hell do you think the lives of black people has sso much to do with white people that we're apparently raping them?

And who gives a shit about judges or pigs becoming racist because they deal with non-white criminals? Who gives a shit about the police? Why aren't black people racist against black people when they probably deal with the the brunt of black crime? In fact, i don't care about any white person who becomes racist for "justified" reasons, because ive been a victim of violent anti black racism and I don't have a racist bone in my body. I face racism whenever i go outside, I still don't hate white people. Racism is daily for me, but i don't reduce myself to that level, and treat everyone equal. People choose to be willfully ignorant and to dehumanize people. White people can choose to stay in the 20th century if they want to, it's not my problem at all. I don't give a damn about the "human brain".

>>1934697
Actually I'm Black speaking to you, doesn't matter if you believe me either. I've been in the "hood" as well as the suburbs, I know more than you think.

This is getting dangerously close to derailment though, and I'm sure someone is going to inflame the situation, so I'll leave with this:

It's really strange how it become the meme in society that somehow black people are obsessed with hurting white folk. It's this weird combination of guilt, indignation, and entitlement with some that have them convinced they are constantly under threat. You said it yourself, we mostly self segregate.

In short, what >>1934750 said.

>thousands of interracial assaults, murders, and rapes each year

I'mma need that citation, and under that definition, there could be a white assailant, or have nothing to do with this false binary of black/white or white/black in the US.

>>1934695
Person from Europe with in the past severe acne and great healthcare here. I've had all sorts of and heaviest medication, nothing was really effectice or lasted for a long time. Only time helps. Thank genetics.

What wa this thread aboit again? Oh woman drawing. Pic related, qt sitting close to me in the train at the moment of writing this.

How the fuck does a Milo Manara thread derail into a debate over racial crime statistics? Get back on topic you dumb cunts, this isn't your blog.

>>1932900
Well, the cities are expensive, yeah. The economy hit rock bottom like everywhere else in 2008 but has mostly recovered and there's been a crackdown on extremism (and, again, there's pretty much nothing happening outside the cities in the first place).
The only real concern is Cameron promising to impose restrictions on internet use if he's re-elected.

>>1934845
>there's also OT of health care and acne, who cares?

but here's my favorite artist, pic related. Serge, aka Papaninja.

>>1934845
Seriously. I wish the mods could clean this thread up.

Nobody cares about when it's okay to use the word "nigga." We're here to talk about women's body types in art.

Come on, mods and janitors, do your goddamn jobs, already.

>>1932913
> How can american doctors be such jews and get away with it?

Because the AMA dictated protectionist health care laws?

> Mexico

Less regulated health care = lower cost, higher variance in care quality. This should be shocking to nobody.

>>1934977
/ic/ is considered a satellite board, so mods dont come here often.
Doesnt help that they arent being paid, legitimacy.

>>1934977
Niggers care.

>>1934572
yeah, the men even more so.

>>1935015
:^)

>>1934978
Americans come to be threated at the military hospital in Mexico City because it's the same quality as Metropolitan USA at 2/3 of the price.

Variance comes from rural indian hospitals being judged along the metropolitan hospitals. Same as the american wage gap existing because feminazis insist on comparing nurses with surgeons.

>>1934392
Which state do you live in? How much do you make p/year?