/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1926357
first

Master study

>>1926360
Oops, posted the original

>>1926362
>>1926360
no dude, you are not allowed to draw long necks on /ic/. you just don't do it.

>>1926362

why is it so much warmer than the ref, do you have flux on or something

>>1926376
I took a picture of it at the museum, and found it on google using my picture, so my painting looks more like the google images version (not posted)

>>1926357
I am Groot

Plein air painting on a foggy day. Digital on top of oil.

am i doing this right?
practicing skin

>>1926481
Needs more hue variation. Try to consider the temperature of your light source, and let that shift your lights. Think about the temperature of your ambient environment, and let that shift your shadows. On top of that note that skin is somewhat translucent. Regions with a lot of veins with be bluer, regions with a lot of arteries will be redder, and subsurface scattering effects can introduce warmer colors where it occurs.

Do a few self portraits using a mirror, or get a friend to pose for you if possible. Stick with a strong, single directional light source to keep things simple, and pay attention to where the color shifts and why.

>>1926399
The skin color is weird, too yellow, needs temperature variations. Otherwise nice.

>>1926481
Don't overdo the highlights, it makes the texture look glossy.

>>1926489
Maybe she's wearing dewy makeup or their skins are oily.

I'm bored and nothing to do at this time, sorry.

>>1926487
>>1926489
but im shifting the hue to the yellows for the light source aswell as desaturating them, shifting the hues to blues in the shadows aswell as saturating them
but im a bit confused because i just started wih nathan fowkes lectures and he said the light side should be the color of the light source gradating to the local color, but there wont be any desaturation then or am i missing something?
>>1926489
gotcha

>>1926364
copy that :)

>>1926072
Is your monitor properly calibrated?
Anyway, slight paintover on face, color and contrast adjustment + vignette. I like the vintage-y chilled vibe.
Clean the bg some more and it'll be a sweet illust.

>>1926500
>im shifting the hue to the yellows for the light source aswell as desaturating them
Why are you doing that? Skin is already in the orangish pink color family - a warm light would make it look more saturated, while a cool light would make it look less saturated. By making the skin less saturated under warm light, you're implying to the viewer that the local color is a lot cooler than what you'd normally see, almost corpse like.

>the light side should be the color of the light source gradating to the local color, but there wont be any desaturation then or am i missing something?
Desaturation depends on the the temperature of the light and the local color. If they are dissimilar, you'll get desaturation. If you're painting a blue ball under a cool light, you'd need a richer blue on your palette compared to a blue ball under a warm light.

Think of it this way: when mixing colors and you're trying to go from say a warm color (orange) to a cool color (blue), the fastest and most direct route to blending the two is through using gray as the intermediate. Any situation where opposing color temperatures are mixed should give you a gray that's close to one of the two starting colors in terms of hue.

This is of course to the best of my understanding. If you find a more reputable source that disagrees with what I stated, then by all means follow that instead.

>>1926503
>Is your monitor properly calibrated?
Possibly not, the colors in yours look really odd on my screen. Everything looks really pinkish...
I've barely worked on this painting today, which is horrible considering it's technically supposed to be a Christmas gift but I'm still messing with it. I'm gonna quit noodling the figure and start working on the surroundings now, but here's where I am thus far.

>>1926513
not that other anon, but you should really calibrate your monitor. your colors are hella yellow

>>1926512
thanks anon
color is way more complicated than i tought

>>1926515
That might not be an issue with my monitor, I've been trying to color it as if it was lit by yellow light, but I decided I want the yellow light coming from the tree only, so I'm gonna make the main light just normal white, I guess. I haven't even had a chance to touch the filler colors in everything else. Whatever, I'll work it out.

Hello /ic/, I'm working on this picture since yesterday and I don't really know what I'm doing, because I'm lack of references . . .I feel that something wrong, but I can't quite put my finger on it, can some kind anon help me ? I would really appreciate some advice of how to be good! Thanks

>>1926520
you're right, it's not an issue with your monitor. it is an issue with your eyes, anon, you're color blind.

am i colorblind?

>>1926561
depends. were you deliberately trying to turn her into an orc?

>>1926562
lol no :^)
just trying to practice skin so i wasnt too concerned with likeness but i see is the keystone and the curve of the nose yea

>>1926563
There are a color blindness that varies some yellows into greens and browns. I recommend to search a doctor, none of us can tell you it for sure.

tips on how to color skin in a more interesting way?

>>1926565
fuck me if i am

>>1926569

This has got to be bait.

>>1926526
Why don't you expand the canvas so that you can draw in the entire orc's arm. I think you'll find that his forearm position is impossible.

>>1926569
you don.t understand the concept of being colorblind. if you saw her skin color as green, you.d choose the same green... but in reality & to people with normal eyesight it would be skin colored.

>>1926588
but you don't understand it either anon...being colorblind means that the color they see are limited to 3 colors (+mix). so he could see the same green for two different colors to you...you shouldn't really correct someone if you're not certain of your answer anon.

>>1926569
Do you see a difference?

>>1926610
I just answered your question with the post obove yours, it's not about us seeing the difference, it's about if YOU can see the difference.

>>1926587
Thank you so much for the advice! :) I'll give it a try to expand the canvas and draw more of them, it seems a good idea, but I don't really understand the forearm problem, on the left side of the pic, I draw the dwarf"s arm, that holds the "sword thing" or what, its a bit ambiguous due to the lot of white and light grey, I see, thank you!!

>>1926569
Go look up red-green color blindness.

>>1926580
nope
>>1926588
i dont really see her skin as green, besides i know her skin is not green so im not gonna choose any greens
>>1926610
i do see a little difference, very subtle though
>>1926616
i did one of those online test and apparently i tested as a strong deutant

i dont know, i want to think im just horrible at color lol and i am just gonna keep practicing
my values are okay though

>>1926624
> i want to think im just horrible at color

Nah, pretty sure you're color blind.

You can always check your colors by just color picking and looking at the color picker square to see where the hue slider lands.

Dan Warren is red-green color blind and he just gets his artist friends to help check his work or does the color picker thing I mentioned.

This was going to be a gift. But now I want to put it into my upcoming show.

>>1926624
>>1926626
Building off that notion, here's the color picker labeled just in case you've had any confusion.

Use the eyedropper tool on photos of objects you might be confused about. Be sure to use a 3x3 or 5x5 sample instead of just a point sample, as it's possible to pick a pixel that widely differs from the average color.

Take the study you did and your version, and color pick the same area on both to see where your hues shifted.

posted this in the wrong thread

/facepalm

>>1926646
i injected too many marijuanas

bleep blorp bleep bleep i am the robot

I'd appreciate critique over this. One of my first commissions and I'd love to nail this one. Still wip

>>1926651
paintover/10

>>1926652
I can post steps to this later. Notes about the anatomy, color or other issues is what I need now. Been staring this for way too long and I can't see my issues anymore.

Made this for an album cover. It's some beautiful music so you guys should definitely check it out if you have time.
http://emotionalskyscapes.bandcamp.com

Feedback much appreciated.

>>1926651
The underlying photo you used for the grass is very pixelated.

>>1926651
It's really boring and the composition is weird.The fur is also overdone.

>>1926661
Door and window perspectives wonky, girls right arm wonky, teddys head wonky, if the ballons are lifting the strings between balloons and arm should be straight from the pull, girl seems very anorexic but might be intentional

Some that catch my eye

Work in progress, slowly fleshing out forms and values.

>>1926661
Doesn't actually feel like the balloons are doing any lifting, rather it feels like the girl is flying on her own merely following the balloons.

The mountains below also look like cartoony piles of poop.

>>1926668
Thank you! This is something I can work with. I have to keep the pose, but that doesn't mean I couldn't make it more interesting. Also I see what you mean about the composition and fur. Goings to fix those now ->

>>1926626
>You can always check your colors by just color picking and looking at the color picker square to see where the hue slider lands.
but i wont know if its wrong until i color pick the color in the reference
>>1926633
thanks a lot anon
i did colorpick and the value and saturation are close but with the hue there is a huge jump from the reds on the reference to the yellows on my study

>>1926676
btw how do you go through life so long without knowing that you're color blind?

>>1926671
Colors are quite muddy. It could be a lot better if you worked on the saturations & temperatures.

It's hard to tell what the background is at this stage, but the general gesture is confusing in relation to the figures. It makes us seem like we're looking up towards the figures, but then they themselves are sort of head-on.

I think it would work a lot better if you redid the figures so that we're looking upwards towards them. Would make things much more dramatic. Any sort of perspective would make it better, since the figures have none.

The torch has a very low value, despite being an obvious source of light.

Overall - colors and perspective need work. I'd fix these things before you delve into it and render more than you already have.

>>1926357

>>1926588
Oh, and by the way, people are stalking the shit out of you.

>>1926624
>i do see a little difference, very subtle though

The difference is not subtle at all. Sorry man, but I guess that pretty much proves you are color blind.

Okay, I've tried to recolor this so it looks like it's more or less under white light. Does it still look too yellow or anything? The tree's going to have yellowish lights on it, so it still needs to be a bit yellow but yeah, please just let me know if these colors seem more on track.

After more than two years of not having really touched a pencil to draw shit, i've grabbed a book on anatomy and tried to find some poses online.

Anyone have resources to find nice human poses to draw? I want to draw bodies. They are kinda amazing.

Grew balls to tackle my greatest nightmare, hands. Work on progress till I die, I guess.

>>1926724
>>1926724
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos.html
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

>>1926734
Thank you!

almost given up all hope on this one. oh well.

Practicing + general messing around using ref

defiantly not my best work, but its all i got a picture of as of now, already posted in a different thread

am i worthy?
i worked hard.

You have 5 mins to prove that paint is not the best program
>protip you can't

>>1926786
Nigga, her eyes are moving

>>1926376
kek

>>1926677
>>1926701
dammit im gonna end up going to the oculist :^)

>>1926569
>>1926624
Photoshop has a colorblind option
It's on the view menu somewhere

>>1926992
shit didnt know that anon thanks!
i am trying this out, 30 min in

>>1927035
looks much better already

>>1927035
Looks like you are colourblind then. Tough titties man.

>>1927075
I'm not sure you understand what being colorblind is.

>>1927085
He works better in colourblind mode than normal, doesn't that say something?

i know i didnt get the likeness at all but im calling it done

>>1927059
thanks
>>1927075
still not so sure about that
>>1927085
nor quite sure if understand it either

>>1927095
nigga just look at your thumbnail. The difference in values speak for itself. YOU AINT DONE YET

>>1927096
Not to mention color. The photo has way cool tones in the face and hair.

>>1927096
>>1927101
dammit, you are right i was so focused on colors i didnt pay enough attention to values

>>1927113
You seem too focused on getting the "skin tone" and not enough focused on actually observing the girl. The highlights on her faces right side reflects yellow light. There shouldn't be any red in there yet you made it bright pink. The left cheek highlight is almost lime green in some parts. And the middle of the face is much more desaturated than you made it. Desaturation the middle makes it look like the light comes from behind her, which it doesn't in your painting. Always look at how the colors play off each other. Compare the green in the background to the highlights in her face. Look at how the middle of the face is almost gray compared to the background. Tldr; try to paint what you actually see, not how you think it *should* look like

>>1927122
Not the person you're responding to, but this is the reason why I never think I'll get color. I literally don't see any green on the girl's face. I notice the yellows and overall desaturated look of the colors. But I just don't see the green in the spots you mentioned, and I run into that issue a lot. Do you start to intuitively see the multiple colors in a face, during a study, the more you practice with color, or?

>>1926671
thumbnail looks really good, but consider the source of light

>>1927138
For me it came gradually. When I started with model studies my main focus was getting the underlying drawing right. I didn't think too much about the colors. But the more I got comfortable with the underlying drawing, the more risks I dared to take when it came to colors. I limited my palette to white, yellow, red, blue and black, and started to look for color shifts in what I painted. Limiting your palette is really something I recommend. And looking for which parts are warm and which ones are cold. Try to forget that you know how a human looks, and try to paint the model the same way you'd paint something you've never seen in your life. Observation is key.

Also, I've only painted traditional, so I don't know if limiting your palette can apply to digital painting.

dumping

>>1927178

>>1927180

>>1927182

Babies first sci-fi soldier

>>1927183
and heres some coke cans

>>1926706
shes tipping over

>>1926618
Awesome. Got a tumblr or something?

>>1926786
Nice, especially the lighting, but the forms of her mouth are a bit messed up. It's a bit too flat and is pointing towards us, where it should be more curved and facing slightly left like the rest of the face. Keep it up.

>>1927200
You've got to think of the figure in perspective. If you have the feet like that the rest of the figure has to follow it, use simple lines to judge things like the knees, hips and shoulders. It messed the shoulders and torso up so they're facing us more than the rest of the body.

Started a 30 day challenge, day 1 is a self-portrait.

>>1927252
LONDON
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>>1927260
Say what now?

first time playing with a cintiq

>>1927200
Reminds me of deadspace guy + infinity blade guy

>>1926861
>protip don't post.
>ever.

Since it's December, all those Rankin-Bass specials come up. They look like nothing else on TV at the time and I just love the round, organic designs with some fairly gentle angles placed on the designs. And of course, the talents of Paul Coker Jr. So I gave it a whirl on two guys who were waxing OPEC and 2015 oil prices for like half an hour.

>>1927276
what the hot fuck are you talking aboot

>>1927278

You know, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Frosty the Snowman, Santa Claus is Comin' to Town, the stop motion figures and all that stuff.

>>1927280
Oh oh oh ok. I should've just googled

>>1927280

>not mentioning the last unicorn or flight of dragons

Shame on you

Baby's first fantasy warrior

drawings with my niece! yay!

>>1927434
whats the point of posting that here?

>>1927451
Cuz we facebook now

>>1927451
nigga i put great drawings here and nobody comments. deal with me.

>>1927113
Needs more cyan, push those lights, face could be a little more feminine
Maybe look up some make-up tutorials

>>1927457
okay, brian

>>1927459
im lucy

>>1926357
working on a possible cover for my new comic book.

>>1927468
After hating how the face came out I was gonna fuck with it in photoshop after messing with some of the settings. I think, by some miracle of happy accident, I solved both problems:

And I like this much better for a cover.

Tell me how stupid it looks /ic/.

>>1927457
No, they are really shity "abstract" drawings that make no sense.
Hell, the guy who draws in MS paint with abstract has more emotion and conviction than your work.
Your abstract doesn't make me feel anything. And thats the point of abstract art. Put some thought into it rather than just drawing doodles for a warmup

>>1927477
Symbols dude.
Too many symbols

>>1927478
the point of abstract art isnt to make you feel something. the point of abstract art is abstraction. thats what i do. pure badass drawery. im not trying to make you feel anything. masturbate if you want to feel something.

>>1927468
ayy

>>1927479
and like always, that doesn't help me at all...

>>1927479
Don't listen to this guy, he's just spouting generic shit.

This looks fine right now. Her bun and the top-left part of her hair look pretty off perspective-wise, though maybe her bun is supposed to be coming off at an angle from her head. Also the hair ornament on the left (our left, btw) looks a bit..messy? Not really sure what the stuff at the bottom is supposed to be. There's no need to look for reassurance in others, just keep working on it and show us the finished product.

>>1927173
I feel most comfortable with traditional media, so that's what I use. I'll look into limiting my palette when doing color and seeing if that helps. Thanks for the advice! It's so weird, understand how adding blues and yellows, and purples, and all that, in the human skin add dimension. However, I still have a hard time incorporating it in a natural manner when I attempt it. (Unless it's something basic, like... blue for shading, or to cool down the tone of the skin.)

I think I need to buckle down and do some serious color studies.

>>1927479
this would only be helpful to people that already know what symbols are.

>>1926357

>>1927242
no, I'm thinking of doing one, but what should I choose between tumblr and Da ? they seem equaly badmouthed on /ic/ so I don't know.

>>1927597
have both. marketing nigga learn it.

>>1927209
stop

>>1926357
Did you draw the OP two threads ago? I think it was a lich king. I love this style.

>>1927628
No, I drew the one in the last thread and this. Don't know who did the lich king.

>>1927522
Thumbnail looks nice.

>>1927458
What the fuck happened to that eye? Holy shit man.

>>1927210
2 much eggnog

>>1927122
>>1927173
>>1927458
thanks for the feedback
trying to apply it all

Trying to escape "muh comfort zone" but holy shit is this hard

>>1927508

>"As you became older the eye became a compound object with a pupil (a dot), the iris (a circle surrounding the dot), and the eyeball (a circle enclosing the smaller circle). These became your own personal "symbols" of what an eye looked like. In order to create likeness in a drawing of your family, you always drew the same faces but added long hair for Mom and Sister, and drew short hair for Dad. You may have even drawn Mom and Dad physically larger than you and Sister. These "symbols" that you drew over and over again got stored in your logical mind as what you would draw if asked to draw. Rather than draw what your visual mind ACTUALLY sees, your logical mind says "I see an eye - here's my symbol for an eye." and you draw the eye as you drew as a child.

>"Around sixth grade is when you decided that symbols just aren't gonna cut it anymore. You'd try and draw what you actually see, but your conditioned, logical mind, kicks in and overrides your creative impulse and spits out yet another symbol, or even better, a modified symbol that does somewhat resemble the object you want to draw.
>"Break your habit of drawing symbols and allow your artistic, visual mind to draw what it actually sees."

>>1927470
>>1927468
If you don't like it draw it again brah, the cover is like a poster for your comic.

It looks like your going straight to Ink for these? I would suggest otherwise, pencil first, then clean up your pencils. When I'm going to ink something I clean up my pencils as much as possible and use a lead pencil.

Also look up some artist on DA that do comic book covers you'll be able to pick up on ways to ink certain things.

But pencil first for sure, some of your lines look scraggly as fuck, with the pencil your tracing your confident lines in a sense. Also, google "line weight" it will prove useful.

All right /ic/ I'm much more a traditional artist, but I've gotten a new tablet and I'm using photo shop. No color picker from the reference.

This is a 60 minute study, screen shots at 10,20,30,45 and 60.

I'm not really looking for critique on the final image, but more so for errors on the way to getting there. Like things I would be ignorant too?

>>1927695
That's a great attempt for such a complex structure. Remember to use value contrast to help differentiate between the elements of the tower, even if you have to exaggerate them a little bit.

>>1927705
Well, define positions and shapes better in early stages. Your nose / mouth / jaw are misplaced/shaped since the first image and they stay like that to the end. No point refining if the basic things arent correct.

>>1927613
heeh, i'll do both then, kinda weird posting on tumblr and da for the same content, but i'll do it.

>>1927705
I like the first step better because there's sess odd thin lines and the energy is nice. In the 4th step down, it just looks odd and downgrades from there.
It's as if you gave up trying to paint after the first step and started drawing and scribbling

>>1927705

I like the first step better because there's sess odd thin lines and the energy is nice. In the 4th step down, it just looks odd and downgrades from there.
It's as if you gave up trying to paint after the first step and started drawing and scribbling.

>>1927725
Made me think of futurism movement.

Any tips or advice would be helpful

>>1927704
Oh this wasn't going to be strictly it. I am just playing around looking for how/where I want things. I just wanted to show the contrast between that one and the happy accident one which I felt came out really cool.

I use non-photo blue pencil when I am outlining and sketching. So it won't show up in these pictures. I also didn't use a lot of line weight for the same reason. It was just to sort of see where everything was.

My eventual goal will be to make it look more like 1950's sci fi poster art for each issue, since it's going to be all black and white and twilight zone-y in the comic. So the final cover will actually be done with paint. But as I play around with comic covers, I'll keep posting them.

>>1926786
If you are going for a soul stealing ginger, you have achieved it.

My first attempt to draw something in PS. Opinions?

>>1927508
>>1927510
>>1927520
Sorry, Sorry.
I was tired last night. Couldnt provide a full critique

>>1927772
pretty good considering it's your first time with tools etc, you got proportions and angle right. keep working anon. once you get the hang of tools etc it'll be even better.

>>1927715

If you want to you can make tumblr for your sketches and finished pieces and da exclusively for your finished pieces. That's how most people who have both do it.

>>1927624
fraaaaaaaaankliiiiiiins. rainin on your booooooooooooody

>>1927772
Can someone link me some tutorials on how to draw hair?

>>1927705
The brush strokes themselves are very ugly and your shapes are wonky. Try using an opaque brush with a hard edge (it can have texture or it can be the basic round). If it's the basic round, make sure the brush tip spacing is low (2-5%). I personally like to turn off shape dynamics all together, and in transfer I turn on opacity control to pen pressure and flow control off (some do the opposite, and some keep shape dynamics on possible with the minimum brush size adjusted).

Simplify your value groups - i.e. focus on big flat value shapes and try not to have too much variance where it isn't needed to describe the form. Try not to scratch in thin lines like you would with a pencil, but instead block things in with the largest brush possible. Whatever you think is the largest brush you can use for an area, go larger than that - overlap your strokes if you need to in order to get your shapes correct.

Also agreed with anons: >>1927713 >>1927719

>>1927822
Look up "Proko hair" on youtube. There should be one video that covers theory, and one that is a demo.

Also look up "Gurney Ribbon Technique" on google. You'll find a post in his blog that covers approaching hair.

The gist of it is you want to approach hair like a sculptor would - focusing on developing large masses of hair rather than individual strands. You can introduce some detail, but only where it's needed and nothing too fine (the brush strokes above and behind his ear in your image are way too fine). Thin brush strokes is a form of detail, and you generally shouldn't have all of your smallest strokes confined to the hair - it almost always looks out of place if there's too many of them.

Been incredibly lazy through the holidays so I am just trying to keep my hand moving.

Halp meh

>>1927888
tall face is tall

>>1927888
proportions

Does anyone have any painting tips or know good demo videos for someone new to it? I've never done painting traditionally or painting before and it's really hard

>>1927908
Btw, this is a WIP. still have refining and the lips to do.

>>1927904

>proportions
>makes a big nose and minimizes the face

Pic one

>>1927918
>Other anons have to solve everything for people

The proportions comment was more than enough

>>1927908
In terms of painting technique you're doing fine. Just be sure to pay attention to edge variation especially along contours. Also, try to avoid indicating things with 'drawn' lines like around the eyelids. Use a larger brush and overlap your strokes to achieve thinner "lines".

I'd say the biggest issue is the drawing itself. Eyes look big and low, and mouth looks tiny. Be sure to better plot out your proportions, both in terms of measuring 2D landmarks and in terms of constructing 3D forms.

>>1927713
>>1927719
>>1927860
Thanks anons. These are 15 minute intervals. Stopped on the hour. Tried the bigger brush abit, didnt really use the round brush. Mostly 80 opac the whole time.

Things I should focus on for the next couple?

fug it i give up

Today was Bridgman day, here's some of the pieces I did from imagination.

>>1927969
The proportions of the masses on your figure are all out of whack. Make sure that when drawing the masses of the body, you're keeping their size in the relationship to the other parts of the body proportionate. Also work on your lines. Don't draw out the masses as boxes or spheres but rather but rather imagine you're drawing over the masses. If you don't know where to put lines think of shadows, that's where lines will be darkest/thickest. If you're still clueless you should study linework of other artists. I'd also try drawing with pen, you can't erase which will help train you to make better lines.

im never going to make it guys :(

>>1927968
Interesting composition, is it s movie still?

>>1927961
Work on your drawing. The fact that you have to warp and twist and pull the placement of the features around so much during your process shows that you don't know where they are supposed to be and that you are just copying what's in front of you.

>>1928008
all u digital niggas do that. can't draw to save ur life. why your all so insecure cause u dont have no confidence in your lines.

>>1928009
>can't draw to save ur life. why your all so insecure cause u dont have no confidence in your lines.

cough

>>1928008
I understand and agree with what your saying. Should I continue doing them as value studies or some other sort of exercise?

>>1928010
what the fuck is that? that proves how insecure you are. you need so many measurements to do anything.

its 2014 we dont have to construct everything anymore. just draw dude.

A photo study

>>1928015
nice b8 m8
>>1928010
I doubt lmsketch is posting here or was on this board even once in the first place. But if you are, nice to see you around

>>1928015
>drawing countour
as long as you can FEEL the drawing, go for it.

>>1928019
Im not LM, but he does lurk, along with other popular 34 artists

been working on this on spare time. i wasn't going to originally put the feet in, but i didn't want to pussy out. but now that i have them on there they look strange to me. any critiques would be helpful . trying to push this as far as i can.

>>1926357
I had to cut it a bit and ended up using mspain to crop (not my comp)
Do I have promise or nah. pls give some help or w/e. Trying to get gud like Gustave Dore.
Used brush/ink and pen as a test.

>>1926671
I love the painting, how did you get it to look so good? Also, i painted this today, i just started learning how to paint.

>>1928020
>Im not LM
Why do I see this so much? You can call someone out, although that guy's way too general and overly aggressive statement about digital artists probably meant it was bait and not worth calling out, but why not use your own stuff? Sometimes you have to, if it's like "oh Western artists are all.." like some huge topic, but there are a lot of instances where it seems like the people involved would back it up with their own art but they don't, they post someone else's without even saying it's not theirs. It weirds me out.

>>1928021
Is she walking or standing still and posing?
Walk: raise front leg, it doesnt touch ground at that part of walk cycle. Or move to front leg foward and back leg back to make the walk cycle the part where front touches ground.
Pose: she looks like shes tripping, balance the center weight spot between legs.
Why is her left hand tensed?

>>1928084
>she looks like she's tripping
No, she looks like she has one foot on the ground and the other one raised a tad.

>why is her hand tensed
and while we're at it let's ask why her foot is raised a tad.

>>1928079
Sorry Lego.
I just made an example of how someone using a tablet can make clean ass lines

>>1927956
What do you mean by edge variation?

Also, regarding your point on the drawing, it was drawn from a photo in a fashion mag. The model more or less looks like that :/

>>1928103
I'm not him either, and like I said sometimes you wanna use someone else's art to make a point, what bugs me is just this general pattern of people posting in such a way and situation that you'd think it was their own work and it turns out not to be. Do people think their point won't be valid unless they post an "established" person's art? But doing that will make it obvious it's not the poster's art. So why don't they say whose it is? I just.. I dunno, I'm pretty new to this board so I guess I just don't get it.

>>1928114
guy who made inflammatory statement here.

just making the point a lot of people here on /ic/ dont have good fundamentals or confidence in their drawings. and that digital lets you hide your mistakes better than pen and paper can. its less about drawing and more about altering. posting other peoples work further proves that a lot of people here only know what they like and have no clue how to achieve it.

late night doodle

Frederick Leighton study.

This is 2hrs in and I only just started to like how it was looking. Should have spent time measuring shit out and actually drawing instead of jumping into paint.

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>>1928133
then why not post that in the first place? :D
that way your point is clear right from the start.

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>>1928155
that's really good anon :)

>>1926669
Guessing the girl is a cancer patient

>>1928247

horribly dirty

>>1928251
ty

draw mokie

>>1926562
Kek

pls help me

>>1928246
>>1928155
Sweet.

>>1926526
Their facial expressions and gestures (especially the dude's) makes it look more like they are having "an intimate moment" then fighting...

>>1928307

I really need to start looking at references for things though, it would really make for a smoother picture. I just like to draw everything from my head for some reason..

>>1928391
More than that you could use some perspective

>>1928133
>posting other peoples work further proves that a lot of people here only know what they like and have no clue how to achieve it.

Now I feel dead inside

>>1927864
So I tried again. How does it look like?

>>1928479
Better, but there are some marks that are too bright and sloppy in the front half of the hair. You have some marks that are even free floating.

>>1928479
think in simple planes at first. you can shade a cube right?

>>1927969
>>1927994

Did this with charcoal pencils and lead pencils.

Any tips/advice? I'm fairly new to charcoal

Despite having no time and allowing a week between my sketches, I will get good. Just gotta keep trying. We will make it, /ic/.

>>1928577

I never understood why guys like you say "We will make it"

From where I am standing, you have already made it...

>>1928584
I haven't. There are many flaws, from it being messy to the likeness not being there. My construction needs work, my tones need work. Despite being better than others I am not satisfied with where I am, and I am pushing myself, and hopefully others with my determination.

>>1928584
Far from made it.

Besides, making it as an illustrator is so much more than being good at drawing. This is something the denizens of /ic/ fail to realize, and people here will ultimately get nowhere with their careers as a result.

>>1928587
>tones

*values

..damn it

Only been drawing for a day or two now

Original
http://img4-1.realsimple.timeinc.net/images/1306/woman-chignon_gal.jpg


Ignore the hair and ears, I'm just trying to get a realistic face

I think I messed up with the outlines, her face has a more, detailed outline of course, in the nose and between the eyes

The top lip I'd also too far from the nose

Any advice on getting better proportions? Or does it just take practice?

I feel like I missed the whole look of her face,what'd I do wrong?

head construction practice

>>1928617

>>1928616
Stop focusing on definitive outlines. If you're going for realism, cartoony outlines won't get you there.

Instead, focus on spacing between facial features and the contrast between highlights and shadows.

You've already shaded her entire face which makes it look flat. Don't be afraid to use an eraser to bring out the highlights.

>>1928624
I was just trying to stay modest with the shadows, since there's not too many in the real picture, but drawing , do I gotta also use sharing for the darker colors too? Probably a dumb question, I was just doing it on shadows

>>1928616
I tried it too :|

>>1928648
I feel a bit better about mine now
T-thanks

wizard

>>1928644
The original picture is relatively light, I agree, but when you translate it onto paper there must be some sort of contrast between shadows and highlights to give the face perspective.

I wouldn't start shading right away, try some rough cross-hatching to start. And no, not every darker colour needs shading. Take the hair for instance; if you shade it completely, it will be hard to bring out the fine, detailed hairs from it later on.

Recognize the darkest shadows on the face such as the nostrils and the shadow underneath her jawline. Since these are the darkest areas, they can give you a reference to how dark or how light your other shadows need to be.

Again, don't be scared to use an eraser to create highlights, it works wonders.

If you are stumped, take a few steps back and compare your drawing from there. It's easier to spot mistakes from a distance

todays doodle studies

Guys, between uni and practicing guitar I was wondering how long it would take to get good enough to draw portraits of peoples faces from real life ( not just looking at picture ) if I made room for 1 hour of practice every day? I read through drawing on the right side of the brain a while back and got a little more than halfway, do I continue those exercises or just start drawing anything at all during my practice?

Day 3 of this 30 day challenge thing.
This was pretty fun.

>>1928619
looks good, try a few more only make cleaner lines, also from who or what book are you studying from?

>>1928750
Michael Hampton figure drawing. Just working through the book studying each drawing individually.

>>1928719
Practice smart, not hard. An hour a day of concentrated study will make you progress quickly.

Remember your mistakes and try and build upon them.

It's impossible to tell you how long it will take. It's different for every person. Sorry that there is no satisfying answer to your question, but any other answer is bullshit, especially considering we have no idea where you're at.

How do I smooth things out? I don't know how in both digital and real paint. I work in Photoshop and mainly acrylics.

>>1928688
radical dude

>>1926357
WIP

wip

MOBILITY RANGE - “YERN”

Excelling in long range combat this unit sports a rounded chest plate for better deflection of enemy projectiles.

>>1928811
use bigger brushes dawg
Once you block in all yer values then you smooth things out with a soft brush.

Feedback so I can push this piece further?

>>1928833
Ooo, looks like it's gonna be cool.

>>1928886
getting a fucking boner from this, loving everything about it. id say maybe push the lights and darks a bit more. like some good shadows on the red dude coming from that sun in the background. also tightening up a bit on the closest guys arm

>>1928861
its got a dick. is the dick for better deflection of enemy projectiles?

>>1928886
nice colours

>>1928886
The composition is very boring, I don't feel any kind of tension that I imagine you're trying to get across in a scene with two dudes confronting each other. Maybe there's something I don't get (I definitely don't get what that gold thing is next to the closer character) but they just kinda seem to be looking at each other. Farther guy is in a stance that looks like he's about to bring his sword down, but since they're so far away from each other it kinda just seems nonsensical.

I really like how you handled the sky though, going to take a few cues from you the next time I paint a landscape.

some figure sketches from pixelovely.

Is there any hope for me /ic/?

>>1928930
What do you see?

>>1928932

what do you mean by, "What do you see?"

>>1928886
I like this very much. Apologies for the rough crit bc I have little time but you have some composition issues. Here are a few suggestions.

the curvature implies more movement and gesture (yes landscapes can have gesture too :) ) you have a diagonal thing going on so I changed the guy in front to flow with the cloud also so he looks more scared of the guy on the rock, although he is anticipating the strike and about to block.

>>1929008
my english is soo shit i this post I am sorry speaking is my downfall

>>1928930
I think it looks good. What device do you use?

Trying out computer sketching on ms paint. Any similar programs that are a bit smoother?

>>1928608
drawing is still the solution to a successful career as an illustrator/animator/concept/panderist shitlord.

You are somewhat right though. There are several other skillsets involved, but any pro will tell you to just focus on drawing, so keep that shit out of your mind until you've invested good time in drawing and painting.

>>1928933
>>1928930
i do mean. You should try to find your failures.

>>1928097
bravo

>>1928139
I like, anywhere u post

I've tried to draw without guide lines for once
I never understood the hips part of man under clothes, I have no problems with womens but fuck man-hips.

>>1929034

Thanks, I am using a Huion H610 Pro and Photoshop CC 2014

>>1929120

Ah, ok, I did not get what you meant without any context.

close up of a thing im in the middle of painting

>>1929111
>not sure if bait, or just standard /ic/ IQ

>>1928811
The way i do it, is do the drawing first, block the major values in, paint on top.

Christmas gift for a friend

>>1928308
Thanks m8

>>1929200
no bad, mind zooming out ?

>>1929282
wow, smooth as fuck, what software do you use and what tool ?

>>1928874
>>1929282
Okay so break things up into pieces then blend the pieces together with a soft brush. I'll try this out, thanks.

>>1929351
Photoshop. I use a hard round for the block in, I smooth it out with a soft brush and then paint over with a 20% opacity chalk brush.

Mmm, lovely gooey eyes.
Amongst other things.

>>1927095

>>1929431
Funny, but this guy is way better than me. I tried my first portrait yesterday. It was terrible.
Keep it up dude.
>>1927095

Head practice

>>1929480
Damn, this shows exceptional skill in color, figure, and likeness

>>1929480
Try using a base that isn't gray, or at least colorize the gray base before laying down other colors.

>>1929459
>but this guy is way better than me
One of the lamest compliments to get from a nobody.

>>1929167
YO SON, YOU STUCK ON SOME SHIT, OR FORGOT SOME ANATOMY?
STEP UP OR GET OUT, CAUUSE ITS GRAVY TRAIN TIME

http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

I'm doing this girl for a little work, this probably will be the final design with some minor changes. Now I'm doing some color tests, I'm not good with coloring.

I wanted to do a character similar to the ones of Wakfu.

>>1929524
Some more sketches. First time posting here btw.

>>1929503
>Try to give someone on the internet a compliment.
>An anon has to destroy it.
Why do I even try to be nice?

>>1929550
Yeah and this is why the internet and society as a whole is spiraling into a cesspool of cynicism and bitterness.
For what it's worth, I agree with your sentiment, I tried some painterly portrait stuff yesterday and the day before, too, and it indeed is much harder than I anticipated. And that guy's even colorblind and he's way better at color than I thought I was, so shit, I think he deserves the compliment.

>>1929480
link to the reference?

>>1929576
brazzers

>>1929480
Just wanted to note that her neck is wayyyy thick.

>>1929585
the link address man, haven't fapped like 5 days now.

Hour studies. Should I keep them at an hour or go longer?
Is there progression? I feel as if I'm getting more done overall in the time. Suggestions for my current skill level?

>>1929590
It doesn't look like you understand what your studying. Take more time to measure your subject and analyze forms. Also realize that there are soft and hard edges shown in those photographs. It looks like you're only painting with a soft edged brush. Make sure you get those shapes right, too

>>1929574
Thank you anon. 4chan is worst than New York sometimes lol.

>>1929601
Ayy, fuhgedaboutit.

>>1929590
Try painting without pen pressure. That may help you with choosing correct values.

>>1929590
Do twice as many in half the time. Be productive. Don't get stuck with details but focus on the picture as a whole. Face recognition isn't about good rendering, it's about the relative distances between the different parts of the face. Your main objective is to get the underlying drawing right: does this look like a face? Do I recognize this face? What differs this drawing from the original? Change the things that are different, then move on to the next.

Most importantly; draw because you want to explain what you're seeing, not because you want to make a pretty painting. You'll have plenty of time for that when you're confident with the basics. You can't make a working painting by rendering the shit out of a bad underlying drawing, but you can make a great painting with shit rendering and a good underlying drawing.

>>1928246
What do people use to draw those highlights

>>1929282
Quick update before bed.

>>1929589
>not fapping to drawings
jesus christ anon

>>1929589
how do you hold your nut like that?
fucking magical, dude

I have been working on this all day and I don't know what is lacking for.

>>1929635
It's probably white color pencil or white conte/pastel.

30min study

>>1929705
From what I can see, its really hard to tell whats going on aside from the people. The white makes the middle stand out so its really heard to tell whats closer or further away. I can't tell if they are on a cliff, or in a cave, or on some snowy hills.

>>1929663
cause Im practicing Loomis 23/7

>>1929836
Thanks, I will keep working on it.

>>1930043
>>1930043
>>1930043