/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1918030
>feels of excitement and unworthiness being chosen by OP

Here are some responses from last thread
>>1917575
>how you learned it
I did as this guy said >>1917767 - copied doujin panels. I think it is pretty fun. It's interesting to see where the face stretches as the eyes and mouth deform.

>>1917584
>How much did you spend on your set, and where did you find those super thin pens
i got them at dick blicks - they have a sakura pigma micron pack that has all the sizes it was like $12, but I really only use 01 and 005

>>1917588 >>1917610
This was never my goal...

>>1917673 >>1917727
> learn the ratios of the body
> heads are way too big
This discussion looks too hot to jump into - i was only drawing faces in the last post. I'll try to combine my learnings soon.

I don't mind the shit posting critique. There is always a little truth behind even a pure shitpost so its good to assimilate everybody's views even if you can never make everyone happy

>>1917677
>disgusting sidemouth
Ah next time i'll take more liberties in my copy and do the right mouth - I always forget

>>1917714 >>1917767 >>1917847
> all his drawings are copies
> just copied this doujin panels
Yuppers sorry to disappoint. I rarely do any OC. It drains a lot out of me and sometimes i just want to put pen on paper

>>1917783 >>1917785
I feel more comfortable jumping in straight with a pen while copying, but I can't do just pen if I don't have a ref. I still have to sketch it out first - preferably in pencil, then erasing the linework

>>1917760
>Maybe she can learn something from it
I lost track of the discussion here - I'm a dude, but I don't know if this was for me. Anyways, less chat and more draw!

newfag here, i'm kinda nervous about my lack of skill drawing.
so what do you say? need an advice
also, is it necessary to use tablet? i'm to poor to buy a tablet
so i always draw manual. only use pencil 2b and an eraser.
is it bad? are my skill gonna stuck? because one of my friends said "if you wanna improve your drawing skill, tablet is a necessary "

>>1918211
The perspective of the eyes/face looks a little wonky but I totally dig the way you did the clothing. A tablet isn't necessary at all and your friend is an idiot. If you want to do digital stuff then it's necessary but if you're fine with the more traditional stuff then I don't see why it's needed.

>>1918211
You made a really common noob error with the perspective of the eyes, the eye further away does get smaller but only horizontally, the vertical height shouldn't change.

I fixed it for you

>>1918215
also i should probably add, his neck is far too long.

>>1918213
>The perspective of the eyes/face looks a little wonky
is that so? it's kinda hard to maintain balance left and right sometimes.
anyway thanks anon

>>1918215
woah, you are right. it's more better that it was,
thank you

>>1918219
what age are you btw?

>>1918219
i'm 20 now, i know my drawing are bad, hahah
I'm just learning to draw a year ago

>>1918224
i'm 20 now, i know my drawing are bad, hahah
I'm just learning to draw a year ago

Critiques? What should I fix before I outline?

Been practicing anatomy and stuff today. Where did I mess up here?

>>1918257
Looks stiff as fuck.

Too sleepy, it's not happening today. I found a good thread on /s/ that is just standing poses. Gonna attack that thread later

I have not graduated to the thinner pen yet for figures, everything just turned into chicken scratch city.

Too sleepy, it's not happening today. I found a good thread on /s/ that is just standing poses. Gonna attack that thread later

I have not graduated to the thinner pen yet for figures, everything just turned into chicken scratch city.

>>1918234
For me, if sketching, you should also put the line of the rib cage and/or the middle line from the neck to the rib cage up to the pelvic area. It's easier to render that way.
It's just me though.

>>1918257
Stiff pose as anon said. Foreshortening on her right arm kinda lacking (looks like she got a big right hand).

New Thread huh?

Gonna link to my previous posts in hopes that helpful anon gets back to me, or, if anyone else wishes to give any input, that's also much welcome.

Perhaps I should make my own thread... idk.

>>1917978
>>1917979
>>1917982
>>1917983
>>1917984
>>1917986

Original Posts
>>1917119
>>1917811

His posts
>>1917899
>>1917901
>>1917902

based on a girl a saw

>>1918320
Disgustingly good.
More confidence with the hands though, please.
>>1918308
Don't make your own thread, if people aren't interested in the generals then you're just taking up space by making your own. There's a lot of information there and it gives me a headache to look through it all, so try to distill the essence of what you're asking into one post with the images.
I'd say you really need to focus on feet, specifically feet within shoes. Try to draw different sorts of faces from refs too, to help combat any sameface issues.

>>1918322
I'm mostly looking for design critique and ideas.

So, it's kinda hard to put it all into something condenced...

If I do, people go in the wrong direction, so I try to explain WHY I made certain choices, or what I want with each character.

But then I get asked about the setting and such as well.

It's a lot of info, but honestly, that's as concise as I can make it. If I leave out more info, then people aren't really gonna get what I'm going for here...

>>1918322
>Don't make your own thread, if people aren't interested in the generals then you're just taking up space by making your own.
i don't agree with that, people can hide his thread if they don't care and there are a lot of useless threads anyway. if there is a thread related to art, it should be welcomed. it's easier to track someone's progress, to see if they take the advice, and might be motivating for some to keep working by posting art to keep their thread alive.

>>1918320
>walk down the street
>10/10 grill
>see her
>oh gawd i have to draw her
>come back home
>draw some crude sketch of her and masturbate sobbing.

such is a life as a worhtles neet.

>>1918398
should take a photo of her and then copy it at home

>>1918399
why not just kidnaping her and make her pose to my drawings.

Posted in Draw thread, redirected here

>>1918211
i tried to practice digital painting and stuff, but it's the best that i can do now.

Reposting >>1917150 and made it so I can post anywhere but lewd enough so I can attract the go-I mean uh...guys. Now hopefully the bra helps make the torso not seem too small?

>>1918505

>>1918505
i feel the breasts are too small

and i dont mean make DCT i mean that they seem like theyre implants that are way too small

they dont seem quite natural like a small breast

>>1918520
how would YOU know?

>>1918522
because ive looked at an anatomy book

>>1918524
>anatomy book on female
great source, bro.

>>1918520
I know what to study now thanks

>>1918528
no problem dude youre free to look into it if you want but its just an observation i feel needed addressing keep up the good work!

>>1918505
I think you made her upper torso look like a pop-can. remember there's an oblong ribcage in there. not to mention latissimus dorsi and teres major. It's not really visible on your ref because of her large breasts, but the torso should flare out a bit near the top.

Also, what's with that flab at the top of her left leg on the inside? look at a diagram of the gracilis and the adductor magnus. There can be fat over them, but this girl is skinny.

I like your colors, but maybe throw a little blue reflected light on her skin from the water and her hair. there would also be more of a highlight on her left shoulder.

chavton and photetos.

>>1918505

I dont have anything finished recently so ill share my last nights doodles. whats my worst weakness?

>>1918570
work on expressions

>>1918560
wow thanks that one looks much much better I want to go over mine to make it look more like yours

Guys i have an intous 4L and i'm planning to buy a cintiq 13hd.
Do you think is that much of an improvement?

>>1918595
yeah, it should be on sale. go for it. it's your money

>>1918320
would fuck f0r 10000 $

>>1918560
D E P T H

>>1918570

Foreshortening the head when looking at it from below.

>>1918560
mikufag BTFO

looks like someone beat him at his own game again as usual, maybe in another 10 years he'll be able to do his waifu some justice

>>1918398
>outside

he obviously saw her on TV or his computer

>>1918320
my dick

>>1918681
>go outside
>BEES

I hate the south during winter

I duno if this is common but I would like some of you fellow artists to look over my gallery and give me a harsh and honest critique.

http://keppok.tumblr.com/

Things I need to work on, advice, whatever. I'd really appreciate it.
It's mostly nsfw.

I

>>1918679

>>1918759
>Pink on pink text
Die in a fire please.
Other than that I like your style.

>>1918795
>>1918795
I'm sorry pink is my favorite color, I'm obsessed with it, and it fills me with happiness

>>1918777
Heh, I drew that as a joke instead of redlining some guy's art. Never thought anyone would save it.

>>1918795
>die in a firez
fixdit :))))))))))

>>1918800
This picture makes me uneasy
do you have more?

>>1918814
it's my art, when I went by mandragoria

>>1918759
I have nothing constructive to say, but your art fills me with hatred. It's well drawn and shows a very good understanding of form and style, but the content and style are so awful to me that it fills me hatred and disgust, sprinkled with a bit of envy.
It's an odd feeling. My brain wants to like it because it's technically well done, but I just seethe with hatred when looking at it.
Same with Brekkist, or whatever that faggot calls himself.

>>1918820
Chill, you crazy man.

>>1918827
No. Hatred is fuel for the soul.

>>1918830
Why hate this guy, though?
I hate lots of things, but I would never hate someone who draws erotica for fun, because that's wicked.

>>1918820
Well, okay. Sometimes I get jealous of other artists too and get salty, so I guess I can kindaaa understand how you feel.
Brekkist is a big inspiration to me and he helps me a lot. I really love how he draws. That's my opinion

What about the style don't you like, or a better question, what styles do you like? Maybe I can find something about them I'm lacking and work on it.

>>1918832
You can't always consciously decide what to hate, and I thought I explained my mixed feelings on the subject. The style just grates on my eyeballs, like putrid semen.
That being said, I think I can find a rational reason for hating someone who draws gay, chubby see pee of characters from my childhood. I don't want to see a fat child Link or Megaman fucked up the ass.

>>1918834
It's a matter of taste, so we're really not going to go anywhere with this.

>>1918837
>>1918836
you have an ally in this discussion. just thought i'd let you know.

>>1918836
No one is getting fucked in the ass, anon. Get your eyes checked.

>>1918849
Are you kidding? The link to her tumblr is right up there. Lots of gay kids getting fucked up the ass on there.

>>1918859
Oh, I hadn't seen that.
You win then.

I was hoping to have some critique about my art on a technical level and I'm kinda saddened now it's just dramu about what I choose to draw instead, but I guess that means that's my biggest issue.

I'd still like to see art you guys consider cute or more stylish so I can try to learn some things I'm lacking

>>1918867
I actually think your drawings are great. Except for some flashy/gaudy colors.

>>1918864
Anyway, let's leave it at that. I don't like her stuff, but I feel I'm entering bullying territory and nothing fruitful will come of me bitching about this shit anymore.

>>1918867
Remember art is never immoral. It is just well or bad done.

I need a better program then one that is 10 years old.

>>1918800
>LTTP was my nostalgia pudding
>see this

I have no words.
/v/ must see your beauty

>>1918817
>this pic
wait, when did you do this?
Cause i swear I jacked off to Splashwoman handjob before

Besides the videos in the sticky and OP, what are some crucial videos that I should watch to get better at my drawing?

>>1918867

Stop fishing for compliments.

>>1918913
Stop being a fagget

>>1918320
>tfw no stranger will see me and want to draw me

>>1918953
Why not? The guy you're linking to drew some random fat girl with elephant legs.

>>1918913
Seems like fishing for real critique instead of "stop drawing what I don't like"

>>1918885

To this... still feel like it lost the personality of the pencil sketch. What program is best for coloring with a shaded style? I need some good books... any suggestions?

>>1918817
>>1918800
is that you?
>http://keppok.tumblr.com/

>>1919000
yep.

>>1918453
looks good, but here's some stuff you can fix

>>1918234
bump

>>1919059
There is no sense of form or structure on that
Spend more than one minute next time

>>1919066
Don't be so harsh, he's got some decent things things happening there.
>>1918234
>>1919059
That said, the other guys not wrong, he's just more blunt than I am. Keep structure and form in mind it will help your drawings a ton.

>>1919032
okay, thank you anon

How should I polish this, I never know what to do after this point

Sorry if you recognize me

>>1919076
>avoiding to draw legs

How's this preliminary sketch doing? I was thinking of doing a paint over without any lines.

>>1919162

>>1919191
Smth I drew for /vp/'s game
>inb4 chiken scratch
I'm sorry anons, it's been a while sine I picked up the stylus

Smth I drew for /vp/'s game
>inb4 chiken scratch
I'm sorry anons, it's been a while since I picked up the stylus

>>1919162
>paint over without any lines
so why would you make lineart
what is wrong with you

>>1919191
>1919191
>using PS for lineart

>>1919221
Is it sai?
I like good lineart but i find it so tedious to do
Once i have a rough sketch of what i have in mind i just jump into coloring
And not sure if true but got a bamboo tablet and its a pain to do any lineart

>>1919226
well then i hope you are painting over it and not cellshading cause it looks like shit on sketch. cellshade needs perfect lineart.

>>1919226
You can do lineart on Photoshop the only reason why people do not like Photoshop is because it does not have the same stabilizer tool as sai.

With enough practice you may do without that stabilizer tool.

>>1919229
>i hope you are painting over it
Yes
>>1919230
I certainly could but it will take too long
Just painting over it takes me less

mistakes ?

>>1919264
Girl's cranium shouldn't be so high up since she is looking up. The perspective of the hair that wraps around it should be changed to match that as well. Not sure if the legs are in the right perspective either.

Hello,
Could any of you please tell me a good computer for animation? I'm a complete novice and would like to get into it.
I have asked /g/ but what they tell me is to build my own. I don't want to learn how to build a computer.
I figured I can ask here, maybe you guys can give me some names.
My budget is 2000 (I'm not a rich fag to me a while to save)
I don't think it is something I should make a thread about.

>>1918978
Thanks Ireland for contributing

>>1919032
>look at the villpu ribcage video yesterday
>your version makes sense for the first time

A WHOLE NEW WORRRRLD

>>1919221
She looks cute enough to get the dick anon.
thank you for the pic for later!

>>1919333
I have an Leveno Labtop with an I7 proccesser and 1 terabyte of memory.
Ran around 1400 I think or less

>>1918953
I know this feeling too anon :(, maybe we should wear some short booty revealing shorts too

>>1919333
>cranium
2000$ is more then enought for a good PC.

>>1919359
Nah, just wear a cute beanie with jeans or something.
its too cold for booty shorts

>>1919333
2000$ is enought for a good PC.

>>1919333
Wait, what kind of animation?
Traditional animation in TV Paint or Mirage (you won't need a lot), Flash or After Effects (yeah alright, get something better) or 3D (get a Gamer PC).

Drawn on my phone, rough outline
Too chickenshit to show my friends
How terrible am i

>>1919405
It looks like "loss"

>>1919415
holy shit, that really is loss.jpg

>>1919372
Got a name?

>>1919374
Hmm, a gaming computer would be able to handle 3D and the rest right?
The only gaming ones I've heard of are
alien ware and razer blade. But those are very expensive.

>>1919352
What type of animation do you do?


I appreciate the help.
thank you.

>>1919431
>what kind of animation do you do
I dont.
However I can do this without lag

>>1918820
I get what you mean, not the hatred part but the slightly uneasy feeling of seeing someone good at art draw things that aren't to my liking. I'm glad for them though, they can draw whatever crazy shit they have in their mind and enjoy it.

some sketches to relax.

>>1919197
For a guideline, also for fun.

>>1919730
euch, i hate cleaning up sketches, i can't do it

>>1919528
Sucy best girl

>>1918885
So, the thread that invited us to draw Nui told me my picture is terrifying... okay, so maybe I do butcher things from pencil to digital...

Trying to improve, do ya'll think its any better? Any suggestions or ideas to practice getting into working with digital media?

I'll never be a great manga artist... but I'd rather when I try not terrify people. Oh dear.

>>1919781
I don't think it's the pencil to digital that makes your drawings look butchered, nor the program. Just keep practicing keeping in mind the basic of things such as pose, proportions and construction rather than the detailed stuff.

Take for example this Nui. Drawn in mspaint with a mouse. Simple and rough yet not terrifying because the proportions and pose are solid.

>>1919804

Hmm... I'll keep trying then. I need to try more dynamic poses... all my characters look frozen...

>>1919066
>>1919076
Thank you both!

>>1919804

Aye, I need to work on my neck and shoulders. I draw hands, legs, and practice proper anatomy if I try really hard, yet I have an extremely hard time drawing the necks of characters.

They end up really skinny and long or looking... I don't know, fat and short? So then I end up going with skinny and long.

Anyone else have a problem with the neck and shoulders? No... that's not my style... that is a problem.

>>1913024

Me again.. any thoughts on this? I`m trying to make him likable enough before finishing it.. so, is this an improvement? ( supposed to be a card illustration for a board game, as a gift to someone ).

>>1919032
>>1919076
IS THAT YOU,TEAL?

>>1919923
Can't you instantly tell it's not from the handwriting alone? Jesus christ.

>>1919731
because you can't draw.

>>1920002
rude pig.

admittedly boring pose

>>1920034
Neck twist is too much. We should be seeing more on profile angle.
Also. you can indicate some light on the hood on the back of his/her neck just so we can discern easily the back of the hood. At first I thought it's the neck.

>>1920034
UGLY
FACE
REMOVE

>>1920046

shes not supposed to be pretty

>>1918411
Sweet, I like it

I'm working on a big spread of my boyfriend's characters, here's one of seven

>>1920044

oh forgot to say thank you anon

>>1920034
Tumblr is that u?

>>1920051

damn that hits home, ive tried not to go too far down that route, maybe i should stay off it for a year or so

>>1920047
>shes not supposed to be pretty

OooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOooooooOOOO

remove yourself.

Looking for CC here!
From what I can gather myself, I think I need to be more obvious that its supposed to be Cammy?
But all critique is appreciated. Even; "She looks fat"

>>1920069
inb4 "ugh tumblr gtfo"

>>1920069
>>1920070

>ugly pronouced nose
>red nose
>zelda shirt
>signature everywhere
>fat
>not even curvy but all edges, not womanlike


too much i hate in this picture gtfo tumblr

>>1920069
>that tumblr nose

It just forces the eye towards that nose and then it wont go away. She should guide the sleigh tonight.

>>1920071
"s-she doesn't look like muh anime grills style!"

>>1920071
>>1920072
>>1920073


Thats fine, I knew you guys wouldn't actually like it.
Its crit on the actual anatomy and stuff I'd like. If you can stomach looking at it.

>>1920073
she looks like muh ugly western shit greels. Besides i can see you wanting it to be anime style but fail misrebly because of your shit western style.

>>1920073
Yes it's an extremely ugly style, she looks like that potato face toy.

>>1920069
Please stop doing that nose thing. Nobody likes that shit and I have no idea how or why it became a trend.

>>1919781
the most terrifying thing is her neck looks stretched like one of those african negresses with the rings taken off. Also arm and shoulder anatomy.

Traditional or digital has nothing to do with it. Anatomy is the problem.

>>1919923
>>1919962
teal actually had legible handwriting, he also wasn't a hugboxing faggot.

>>1920079
I honestly don't understand it either, the usual stylization process of east or west is to make the more beautiful points of the body
more prominent and make the eye go there and make the less attractive ones hide so that the eye doesn't get stuck on them, i don't know
how they decided to create such a backwards style.

>>1920080
It looks like he is using a lot of stabilizer as well, you might think that the stabilizer is a good thing but anything above 3 and it will
ruin your lineart, it will make smooth robotic curves that will not follow what your hand wants to do and you will never do good
lineart even if you can, if you use it that is.

>>1920075
It's not bad, rather cute, I'm also fine with her bodyshape. It's not obvious that it's Cammy, probably because she is lacking her red accents which she usually has in her outfit. A red cap or green socks with red rim would help.

Things that annoy me are the general lack of anatomy and probably the lack of reference.

There are random lines on her body for muscles where the should be none and lots of weird shit happening at all the joints, esp. the knees.
The knee-cap isn't fixed to the lower leg but it is suspended between ligament and moves in the gap between the tibia and the femur if the leg bends. Right now it looks like it's attached to the tibula. Then there's a weird quadricep muscle (just one lol) and lots of fat (?) above the knee where there should be none. And that is just her right knee. Overall there is lots of anatomical randomness and I can't comment on everything, srry.

Also that red-nose meme.
Sometimes there can be a bit of reddishness on the nose, if it's cold, if someone is drunk, if someone has a runny nose. But most often, it's just random stylization and it looks ridiculous to outsiders. The same as a perfect circular blush can easily look ridiculous. Don't take the red nose thing and the blush too far and use it where it makes sense.
In that vein: Check if your people are always looking out of their eye towards one corner, because there are people who just do that. That is my Tumblr pet peeve.

>>1920069
>But all critique is appreciated.
>>1920075
>Its crit on the actual anatomy and stuff I'd like.

Typical tumblr feminist who can't make up their mind about what they actually want.

I think the comment about representing a fat women with no curves at all is the main problem.

>>1920103
>Did you just use logic? Stop oppressing me!!!

>>1920069
What did you do to my waifu you monster

>>1920108
If you look you can see that there is an impression of hairy legs and arms and armpits.

>>1919733
Such great taste

>>1919528
Painted out my favorite figure, anything off?

>>1920118
looks genzoman tier

Hey guys, I ask every couple of months. What should I do to get good? I get great answers like "Try drawing people as detailed as you can in 5 minutes" Or "Spend a 5 minutes a day working hard on drawing a perfect circle."

Would the seniors here care to share a few pearls of their wisdom?

>>1920139
Sticky. Top of the page.

>>1920118
Skin might be a little too dark

Sucy still a best though.

>>1920139

surround yourself with art that you like, look at the pieces you love everyday and try to find even more stuff to love. look at all sorts of styles, pick out the subtleties, "i like the colors on this, i like the anatomy on that, i like the style on these," etc. just surround yourself with good art, itll inspire you and give you something to emulate. dont pay attention to how good/bad you are in comparison to x y and z artists. it doesnt matter

+ study study study practice for hours a day

>>1920139
Study how to do thing
Practice thing
Study how to do new thing
Practice new thing
Re-study thing once in a while to make sure you haven't thing.
Draw thing you like.

>>1920152
What if I don't like thing?

>>1920159

do it anyway. think of it as an rpg, you gotta grind to gain levels

captcha: kelps

>>1920128
post your merc_wip

>>1920145
value or color wise?

>>1918218
yes, you were told this before and you know it

>>1920118

>>1920152
>>1920150
Thanks. I have been grinding basics since April and filling a sketch book every month. Things are really looking up.

>>1920047
That wont stop me from making porn of her, faggot

>>1920069
Im cringing so hard, you wouldn't belive

>>1920159
Thing you dont like will form into thing thats fun to do

>>1920069

>>1920216
Why do you keep doing these when you are clearly a beginner?

>>1920223
lol rude

>>1920225
you must be new

>>1920216
Better than the latter, but its pretty basic.
Which is the point I guess

>>1919861
things that stick out are the mouth/cheeks make him look old, and strange; the ear is too low (end is at the bottom of the nose, top is the brow/top of the eye area); and his head is too big. also check symmetry. his eyebrows are wonky in this way. i have this problem too, just sit back once in a while and check everything

>>1920049
excellent

>>1920118

>>1920080
I have a very hard time getting it right with my guide lines. Here, I pulled up my pencil sketch and inked out my original 'skeleton'. All my art has freaky neck syndrome. Arms are too short in length, I can fix that mistake. Noticed it when adding the rest of the body. That won't fix what is going on above the arms though.

(Minus the arms being completely not the right length to the thighs, this is more or less how all my drawings start.

>>1920159
Not liking thing usually means you don't know how to do it. So keep studying and practicing thing until you do.

>>1920085
I very much appreciate your advice. It is far beyond my level though.

Er, I got Photoshop 7.0, a scanner, and I'm inking with pen tool (the vector thing?), a mouse, and the hard brush defaults 3-9 with the fade diameter set at 40% and smoothing turned on???

>>1920187
>>1920298
Thanks

>>1920319

Is that a skeleton you drew? If so why the fuck does it have perfect circles for joints?

They are guidelines, you're supposed to draw them in an instant to get the proportions more or less right. They aren't rules to draw by, if you think it doesn't look right when you draw over the skeleton just don't follow the damn skeleton!

>>1920259
Thanks m8

>>1920319
K hang on son

>>1920053
You can stay in that site, but still improve on your work. Despite the bad part of that place, it actually has tons of pictures for inspo

>>1920319

These are shit symbol drawn guidelines that you likely drew because you thought it'll make your piece better not because you need it. There is no form behind it, and you don't even have the right proportions. You need to grab some figure drawing book and practice drawing shit as 3d.

Holy shit. I have drawn thousands from the profile and 3/4 but I am fucking garbage with the foward view or forward tilt.

Do you guys still have to use rulers when you draw someone from front on? Will it get better?

>>1920630
>rulers
Anon, pls

Don't fret, you just need to draw more

>>1920645
I have been drawing daily since April. I guess thats nothing compared to the rest of you though. Mostly I do 3/4 because its what you see in life drawings.


...espically when you dont talk to people in person a lot.

I have nothing interesting to say, so I'm gonna share a sketch of my OC, and be open to crits if they come.

>>1920654

How much do you draw a day? Drawing daily can mean drawing 15 minutes a day or eight hours a day.

Front views make a lot of things easier but dealing with the nose can be tricky. If you're adept at 3/4 views then you should be able to pick it up pretty quickly, assuming you actually construct your faces and aren't just doing symbol-drawing Mr Potatohead animu shit.

does this guy look cross-eyed to you guys?

>>1920662
Yeah I know how to construct the face. I know the eyes are spheres, and about the keystone of the nose and I have studied skulls etc.

My problem is symmetry. That and lack of confidence. I look really hard at one eyebrow only to realize I made the other higher etc. The cheek bones are in the same place but the cheeks a slightly off.

I guess I am looking at only one thing and losing the bigger picture.

>>1920654
Use guidelines if you must. A faint horizontal line across the face is good enough.

Care to post some stuff?

>>1920657
Nice. Neck is slightly too thin or long I guess. It makes the head look big

>>1920666
>dat trips
Thanks, I do have a habit of making necks too long, I've gotta keep a closer eye on that.

>>1918398
Well as a neet we practice/work pretty much and if you do something for your body it's actually fun as a neet.

>>1920665

You just need to be careful. Be meticulous, take your time. The mistakes you named are easy to avoid with simple setup.

>>1920223
blue line is better.
shut up

>>1920069
>trend drawing this hard
>obvious bait

>>1920681
>>1920666
You know I just did one and it turned out nice. I had to measure a bunch but I think my biggest problem is confidence and lack of experience. I have done the 'draw 100 faces, don't like it? draw 100 more' thing a bit but mostly with 3/4 and profile.

For the time being I will use the ruler and measure until I can train myself to see it.

I would post some stuff but I do pen and pencil and my memory card doesn't read on this computer.

>>1920688
on the up and up though I can almost do a perfect circle on the first try now. No more ovals that I see as circular.

>>1920664
I think you have some feature creep going on in his head. I'm a student too so this is probably not correct either, but his right eye is wandering off his face kinda.

working on a crash bandicoot pic for my SO

>>1920693

?

>>1920319
I'd recommend starting with a different approach. instead of drawing lines and circles, which don't seem to really be helping you, start with a very loose gesture showing the line of action and the approximate locations of the limbs and head. Then CONSTRUCT the torso. Draw it as a bean showing the twist and position of the rib cage and the pelvis. Then add the limbs as tubes, and rectangular prisms for the hands and feet, and the head as master loomis constructs it.

Add details to your construction by studying anatomy and work on your faces. this one: >>1918885 is super creepy.

>>1920262
sticky

>>1920664
no, derp eyed.

>>1920844
one crazy motherfucker

Does anyone have any experience with Clip Studio Paint Pro? Is it worth it, or should I just continue using freeware?

>>1920881
you should first learn how a skull is constructed, then yes, you should get it. it's good.

>>1920881
clip studio paint is definitely worth it

>>1920881
Do you only draw that one face? It's the same as the elf in the other thread.

I really need to finish something...

>>1920951

She's holding that violin all wrong, how is she ever going to make first chair with technique that poor?

>>1920968
this, should be in pooper.

>>1920951

ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring viola phone

>>1919374
>>1919431
>>1919372

Not that Anon, Mentioning types of PCs for animation on list

Basic tier(non 3D, Potatoshop): CPU(anything affordable like mid to high end AMD) GPU(AMD R9 260 to 270, Nvidia GTX 750 to 760). Since AMD had made cpu/gpu hybrid chips as APUs(A-Series) it wold be an the most affordable option for some(poorfags), but an separate GPU is always better.

Mid Tier(Basic 3D, Advanced 2D): CPU(Any Intel that is like the 2500k anything newer wold overheat so be sure to get proper cooling for it, TL:DR: get the I5) GPU(AMD is usually the best on the GPU side thanks to improvements otherwise the R9 270 to 280, For Nvidia users be the GTX 760(unfortunately)

Ultra Tier(CGI Dev, Studio Grade) CPU(1grand Intel I7, or Server Cpus any brand) GPU(Top end AMD FireGL, or NVIDIA Quadro both are the best for CG because the software works with the hardware, Or if you want something lesser than workstation from AMD R9 290(or x) or Nvidia GTX 980 or the Titan Z

For the rest like motherboards chose anything but Asrock(they fail), And PSU are calculated between watts and max use of power, Otherwise look up the /g/ sticky for rest. Lastly don't buy cheap parts besides the CPU,GPU. And bring a /g/ tard with you if clueless.

>>1920974
TL:DR Find a Pre-Bulit with these parts if Potato

>>1920118
I noticed that the right one is copied from her character sheet. Are the others based on reference as well?

>>1920974
Thank you very much for this, it is very helpful for someone who doesn't know about computers and is just starting out with animation.
I appreciate it.

Can you guys recommend some good storyboard/production art books?

>>1920993
No the others are straight from imagination.

>>1920936
Yea, I don't draw from life enough and I'm a hack so I just default to a generic dollface. One of the things I plan to tackle during the break though.

>>1921051
Which program do you use? If a shitty one just take sai and get a brushsetting from some drawfag. Jeez. Quality work here but ruined by those lines.

>>1921066
That's shit advice. Sai is a crutch, not a tool. The lines may look straight with Sai, but they also look like shit when they're corrected by the computer.
Sketches tend to have wobbly lines because they're sketches.

>>1920881
Pirate it and try it?

>>1920675
I love it
I love it a lot

>>1921073
The advice you're giving is equally shit as the advice you're bashing. There's nothing inherently wrong with stabilizer to a small degree--the problem is when there is so much stabilizer that the charm of human error is lost. It's not really an excuse to have wobbly, unconfident lines just because 'it's a sketch'.

>>1921087
Actually, a wobbly line is usually a confident line, because it's drawn without chicken stratching.
And even if it was a problem, he or she sure as fuck wouldn't be doing anything to correct it by using a tool that straightens your lines.

>>1921073
Using SAI and doing sketches? Put stabilizer to 0.

>stabilizer bullshit again.

Use it or not, you'll get 99.9% of your line confidence from pure milage. Way too much Broscience on both sides of this argument, and people are getting good on either side.

>>1921292
stabilizer doesn't draw for you, people who call it a crutch are stupid or jelly or just act silly on internet for guaranteed keks.

>>1921338
Unless you can show me where he actually says
>stabilizer draws for you
>stabilizer is a crutch
I believe all he is saying is that you get more confident at lines the more you draw regardless if you use it or not.

>/ic/
>the one stop shop for stabilizer tools

>>1921089
Your post reeks of amateur, please stop spouting 'advice'.
Its clear that you have no idea what you're saying.


Wobbly lines (generally) are not confident lines. The only exception i can think of right now is Schiele. Look at schiele's lines, wobbly but they describe form and structure so well.

>>1921338
Stabilizer is good if you used it to get around minor hardware issues, in sai 2-3 is pretty fine, anything after that
will only hurt you work, if you get to the point where the lines you draw don't even follow the movement of your hand even
if you practice and get good you lines will still be robotic and stiff because you use heavy stabilizer.

>>1921089
>Actually, a wobbly line is usually a confident line
It is confident yes, but not necessarily good looking.
>he or she sure as fuck wouldn't be doing anything to correct it by using a tool that straightens your lines.
This is correct, take example of this drawing, to make a confident and looser lineart you have to be able to freely control your lines movement and pressure at any time
to make interesting shapes, if you use heavy stabilizer you'll never achieve this, even if you are actually good.

>>1920675
good stuff

>>1920750
Any mayor flaws you can point out?
I rarely do action shots like this and I just started to paint without an outline, so tips are appericated.

I'll redo the hood of Crash's jetski now.

>>1921565
>action shot

If they're moving shouldn't the water have ripples over it?

>>1921536
Whoa..thank you very much for this. Very appreciated! Cheers.

>>1921569
Yeah I still have to draw the water effects. I avoided it until now because I have no Idea where to start...

>>1921565
rendering Cortex nao

>>1921620
if you want to make money from fanart, you need to draw porn. sorry to say, but you have to start over.

>>1921626
>implying everyone is desperate like you

top kek

>>1921620
lel. I know, porn's where the money's at... but this is a present, I don't get money anyways.
I also don't think there's a market for Bandicoot porn.
Or is there.
I don't even want to know

>>1920951
when were you when kyle die?

>>1921536
You put her in a vagina sack and then figured out the perspective.
Interesting

>>1921626
Hes doing this for his family member I believe.

>>1921841
But anon, is that not how you perspective?

Which of these looks more correct? Redline, anyone?

>>1921865
I just said it was interesting, not wrong.
Just thinking outside the box

>>1921843
my point still stands.

>>1921867
I know man, I was just trying to be cute. Actually thought it was looking like a vagina when I started in 1 point so I went for 2 point to complete the illusion because I'm a jackass

>>1921866
Put your arm in the same position and imagine you have a boob.

>>1921873
I'd say it's more comfortable on the left version, because I'd get to rest my arm on my breast. On the right on I'd have more trouble keeping mu arm in front. On the other hand (pun intended) others said the right version looked better.

>>1921866
The one on the right, but make sure to give the breast a slight squished effect.
You can find plenty of examples online.

I'm

>>1921903
not

a robot

>>1921911
For what purpose does she have two tiny hats? Why not buy one medium sized hat that's probably cheaper and actually has a use?

>>1921912
pretty sure they're supposed to be hair ties, like bows or some shit.

I love this thread and before I got decent at basics I was all about manga. Now I kinda wanna draw western comics. Is that allowed here? Is there a better place for it?

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, whenever I try to render, it just ends up as a mess.

>>1921977
/co/ and drawthread will help out.
congrats on graduating.

>>1921508
The area between her shoulders abd chest is too long. I feel like her shoulders should be closer (to the rightt)
It looks super cute though. And i dont even like traps

>>1921980
block them in, think of the shadow shapes

>>1921983
t-thanks

>>1921980
Neck is too twisted.

>>1921477
This design is great. The attire is sexy as fuck and nice touch on the glans too.

As someone who's advice isn't the best to listen to, all I can say is that something is off with the positioning of the neck, shoulders, and how straight the arms are.

>>1922081
Meant for
>>1921508

>>1921876
I have a boob so let me tell you how it is. The one on the right is much more comfortable because it's easier to keep your arm rested on your breast like that, rather than it just laying against the side of the breast. In the one on the left the arm is actually in kind of an awkward position too.

>>1922102
Depends on the size of the breast, too. I imagined I had melons as breasts.

hi

>>1922160
Meh

>>1922160
I feel like this would be a lot weirder if the anatomy were more accurate.

gonna dump some of my watercolour stuff

Need to colour this, first time properly working digitally so I don't really know what I'm doing. Want to go for a fairly simple cell shading with strong colours, any advice on brush settings?

I have just noticed that the belt is far too low for my liking, going to have to tweak that.

>>1918293
Those ankles lol

>>1920974
any good programs to animate with? I thought about ToonBoom when it was $20 on a charity thing a gorillion years ago but I missed out.

I know nothing about animation what-so-ever.

>>1922458
Post your work, you dreadful little scrote. You know you'll never amount to anything, don't you? Your mother should have shat you into the toilet and flushed you away.

>>1922475
>being this defensive over Tableguy

Not that guy but oh holy shit

>>1922479
I'm not mad at all. Looking at those sketches, and then at >>1922458's uneducated and unfounded "criticism", the cold and logical solution is for him to kill himself.

Maybe you don't believe me when I say I'm not mad... You're probably so caught up in your obstructive "feelings" that it would take meeting a logical man in person to comprehend one.

>>1922484

>>1922484
>logical
oh jeeze

>>1922160
its already been done before

>>1922458
great legitamite critique lol

>>1922455
Fixed it. Still need advice with what brush settings to use for colouring.

>>1922523
I thought spaghetti arms died a while ago

Haven't been on /ic/ in a year.

What happened to Teal? Is that Mikufag and Oppai Chicken Loli guy still here?

Haven't draw in a while. I've been so depressed for the past 10 months, so this is the second thing I drew this year.

>>1922574
Teal went to greener pastures, Mikufag is still a faggot, Oppaochickenlolifutaguy comes and goes he is trying to stay under the radar for a bit.

>>1920951
so you too now huh.

>>1922526
Nah, it's still popular with people that are too lazy to learn how arms actually work.

New Thread:
>>1922670
>>1922670
>>1922670

>>1920049
You got a tumblr mate?

>>1918320
Real nice job shading the legs, you could have put more effort into the sweatshirt, used a smaller brush for the coloring and whatnot. Also like the other anon said, more effort into hands.
I'd still give it a 7/10 tho. Good job anon.

>>1918411
Noice

>>1922484
Wow, i havent seen this much edge in a long time.