/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How many of you guys are still working on figure drawing and learning anatomy while you do this animu stuff? I'm starting to enjoy figure drawing alot

Crit on this? Besides the chicken scratch?

>>1901721
I grind figure study on my days off, then kind of check what I learned with fanart on days when I work. That way I can draw shitty animu without feeling like I'm not progressing.

>>1901660
What an odd design/style.
It looks appealing to me and at the same time I kinda hate it.

Very strange.
Maybe I just don't like the cop theme, or the popeye arms.

>>1901747
>Maybe I just don't like the cop theme, or the popeye arms.
or furries.

>>1901743
For starters it looks like her leg is coming out of her vagina.

>>1901751
Furries have always appealed to western audiences, so nope. Garfield, all Looney Toons, Ninja Turtles, Dr Seuss, etc etc etc. Furry is engrained in our culture and childhoods and we don't even realize it. Hating furry is hating yourself.

>>1901758
I think the term "Toon" would be more appropriate, Furry tends to lean more over the degenerate side of the genre like ponies it has a flip side that isn't always so pleasant.

>>1901758
What those characters all have in common is that they are stylized to the point where they don't have human anatomy, but rather consist of purely simplified shapes. That's why these cartoon characters are appealing to almost everyone and don't gross people out. They aren't humans with animal heads and fur.

>>1901768
>Ninja Turtles
>Green humans with turtleish human heads and giant shells on their backs
>Don't have human anatomy
Not saying you're entirely incorrect, but come on now.

>>1901770
Not to mention there's a class of furry that is more or less feral than your usual animal. Some people even have characters that are completely stylized or completely feral, even some based on "Toons" it's all the same. Furry characters are characters based on animals or with animal characteristics. Tit for tat.

>>1901772
https://vimeo.com/110478181

This, is furry as well. Completely stylized. Also, one of the best fan animations I have ever seen.

>>1901773
man, that animation has no weight at all. it makes me pretty uncomfortable

>>1901752
Better?

>>1901773
>>1901777
More irritating than that is how completely off the lipsync is.

If you're going to make an animation specifically to show a character singing, at least get that part right.

>>1901783
They likely animated it first, then did the audio on top.

I think people usually do it the other way.

Any crits or opinions would be appreciated

>>1901862
Still looks fucking weird. For starters the arms are way too short and the eyes aren't at the right angle. I'm really not a fan of this style, sorry.

>>1901743
How long do you do figure drawing when you do a session?

>>1901862
The arms are short and weirdly positioned, I don't understand what they are supposed to be doing and the head is also weirdly inclined. maybe you are drawing for a certain context that I'm not aware.

A little update on that drawing I was working on earlier. Added in most of the characters I think I'll be needing.

Pretty much drew the entire thing from imagination, so if there's huge glaring errors in anatomy, perspective, composition, and so on, please let me know!

I'm aware that it's currently chicken scratch central, I'm working on solving that.

>>1901931
The first thing that stands out is the perspective on that hand pointing outward. It should be much, much bigger.

>>1901920
From life or from ref? Usually only an hour or two from life because I mostly have to use myself or friends as models. From ref I go from around 10am to 1am in one hour spans with 20min breaks inbetween.

...you aren't going to use that info to criticize my stuff are you?

>>1901947
Nah just wondering

>>1901947
Alright, I'll fix the hand. Anything else wrong/suggestions?

quick comfort zone draw

>>1901476

>>1902102
Everything looks kinda bad, but that face is the worst. Seriously, brush up on faces and try to actually make them look appealing please

>>1902102

>>1902102
>>1902285
Either one of these is weird. Who the hell puts their hand resting under their ribcage like that? It's uncomfortable as fuck. Try it.

>>1902285
That specific pose is in my comfort zone as well so I gave red lining it a shot

Btw you can't drag things in PS with windows? I just got this comp 2 days ago and don't know shit because I was on a mac for 7 years.. God this shit has changed.

>>1902117
Thanks for the paint over. I agree with the warmer skin and longer back but the deltoid is wrong

>>1902281
More appealing? Elaborate. Is it that you personally don't like it?

>>1902298
this guy >>1902285 tilted it for some reason which took the squash out of the pose. >>1902102 original, better pose?

I don't know what I was thinking with he hand pose at the time. I was working from this ref if it helps.

>>1902414
>More appealing? Elaborate. Is it that you personally don't like it?

its the latest jargon from the character design camp, pertains to proportions.

>>1902416
That makes a lot more sense. Is it badly proportioned then I saw the other anon just made the features smaller, is that appealing?

>>1902418
I dont really like that term since it seems to imply a "right" way of designing your character, but the smaller/tighter features are indeed more balanced with the skull and go well with her being the cutesy girl and all that. It seems to be more or less about balance and consistency with what you want your character to express.

>>1902102
you need to think about what you draw and chill with those fucking unappealing expressions. ITs like everyone is a joker from batman for you.

>>1902420
Hmmm, all right so are my features' balanced then? I played around with the faceto get n idea of what you mean. Is it "appealing"?

>beginning to hate that word

>>1902426
Its etter than before, but again the important thing is for you to know what type of character you're making. If she's actually supposed to be some psycho then let the crazy looks fly, dosent matter if someone is put-off by it, actually that would be the point.

>>1902425
Really tho, I just like pushing expression. Maybe it's too far, I still personally enjoy it.

I get that baring teeth might be disturbing, it's always be "appealing" to me.

So how the fuck does appeal wor?

>>1902428
>polite sage

honestly, I don't see the difference. I perceive that the physical proportions changed but it doesn't look "crazy". This looks crazy to me.

>>1902434
I was just bouncing off what the other anon said, she honestly just looked like a smug teenager to me.

>>1902437
>which was what I was going for

well shit. How can one anon see that and another doesn't? What is even the point of character design? Can I even trust someone else's impression?

>>1902440
You could perhaps make it more obvious that she's being smug, say more lowered eye lids while keeping the same smile. Its all about exaggeration, cant be too subtle.

>>1902441
I'll keep that in mind, thanks for engaging me anon.

>>1902442
no problem. Also, I think it's Mike Matessi's book on character design where all that "appealing" talk comes from, might be worth looking at for general tips & tricks. Either way I'd say you have a solid base to work from. Keep it up anon!

I've gone and made a right horrible mess of things with this haven't I. Could I get some crit so when I wake up tomorrow I can take another crack at it with fresh eyes?

>>1902475
everything is wrong. dont make crazy stuff like that before you learn to make normal stuff look ok.

>>1902426
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=12060180
Take a look at this guy's stuff. Your things give me a similar vibe to his, but he still retains appealing faces.

>>1902621
And by appealing I mean he nails expression without using a shitload of lines like you do. Which I feel is why you get so many "this is unappealing" comments.

>>1902621
>>1902624
Huh, I like his stuff, wish there wasn't so much loli though, not my taste. thanks for the recommendation.

Line economy is something I've been thinking about for a while, though I'm not sure how you acquire it. not sure how to gain it though.

Know any similar artist's that won't get me locked up for thought crimes?

>>1902655
Yeah, I was going to warn you about the loli but I didn't feel like it.

As far as other artists go, I can't think of more that give me the same vibe. Do you have any artists that you aspire to somewhat imitate? Maybe I could suggest more based on that.

Line economy can be worked on by visualizing big shapes first, working from general to specific. I'd recommend gathering a bunch of expression refs and trying to get the same expressions with as few lines as possible (google images 'actor expression sheet). Once you learn how to do that in the simplest way, you can start adding more lines without breaking the threshold of creepyness.

Try looking up Elvgren's use of reference (some are in a thread on /ic/ right now about works using reference). Notice how he removes unflattering lines from his model's face in his finished work (such as the furrowed forehead caused by some facial expressions).

Aside from the faces, I like your stuff. As said earlier you will want to look more into how people actually pose, strike the poses you're drawing yourself, adjust till you feel comfortable. I can see potential in you for sure.

The more I work on this the more I hate it. The only thing I like is the face. Crits/advice wanted!

>>1902674
Thanks anon, Chris Sanders is a huge influence, Joel Jurion when he isn't drawing little boys, after that I would have to sit down and think about it. Maybe I'll do one of those sheets for the influence thread.

I'll try that expression sheet exercise.

i've lurked for a long time, i think it's time i actively started to participate. help me out with this and tell me what to avoid for my next image. also who are some good artist to learn cell shading from?

>>1902719
body isnt too bad, face is fucked

>>1902721
damn, i had a feeling that was the case as i was drawing it, but left it in anyway. I'll grind faces for a bit

>>1902719
>Grandma tits

Whatever floats your boat.

>>1902719
not bad anon but yea faces

a quick sketch

>>1901758
The length the people will go to rationalize being fuck-ups.

Tried drawing a mermaid. Should I bother cleaning this up? I kinda want to to practice coloring.

>>1902850
The length people will go to pretend to be normalfags on 4chan.
>Oh reddit.

>>1902725

this looks good from the thumbnail

i also think if he did more confident lines for the legs in particular, this work could have been very good

>>1902737

reported

man how do people apply some moe magic in their drawings, mine always turns out to be a bore.

prolly not gonna finish this.

>>1902917

some people just have good taste

>>1902890
Do you want to practice coloring or painting? If you want the line to be part of the final product then yes, clean it up. Otherwise just paint right on top of it and just use that as a guide.

>>1902917
Part of moe is bringing character into the drawing. This just doesn't have any charm to it.

It seems like you got a little confused in how you want to portray her. The body language is pretty serious and straightforward, but it looks like she's trying to make a cute, friendly gesture. Figure out her personality then exaggerate it.

This is just a quick example of two ways you could push it.

>>1902686
I like Joel Jurion too, Sanders has a few I like as well. Look at how they handle expressions as well. It's not a cop-out drawing if you're learning something from a study of their work.

As far as other artists goes, it's a tough sell as I stray more towards eastern stuff stylistically (but I love my western golden age illustrators and european academic painters for technique). Joel's work is reminiscent of disney artist and disney sketch artists are generally great at expressions that are IMHO more expressive than anime styles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%27s_Nine_Old_Men is a good jump-off point for all the talent there. Don't discount their new stuff though. I enjoy some Don Bluth and Garrett Hanna as well.

Yoh Yoshinari has a more western look compared to other japanese illustrators. Now that I think about it your stuff also reminds me of the artist of Drakengard 2 (artbook scans here: http://g.e-hentai.org/g/485674/11f47fa326/)), especially the characters on page 34 and 35.

>>1902890
She looks pretty already, I'd love to see where you can take it. Go for it!

>>1902917
I like the character design. Her torso looks like a confused hairball though, Try cleaning it up. If you want it to look more complex to contrast with the more simplified skirt, add some pockets, war medals, maybe some japanese-style archery chestplate (would make the random pauldron-thing feel less out of place)?
The boringness is because your piece lacks story. We are just looking a pretty girl straight-on with a sword, this looks to be the start of a concept art rather than an illustration. Did she just kill a man? Is she some kind of wartime idol? What does she do?

>>1902962
I just realized by boring you mean 'Not cute enough.'

In that case, I agree with >>1902947
The pose is too stiff. Try looking at images of japanese idols. They kick up a leg, make cute hand gestures, they wink. It's all in the body language. Also, even though she's not doing a very good job of it, having a weapon behind your back is threatening body language. Maybe you could try giving her a diamond composition by placing her right arm on her hip and here other arm hold her sword out to here side with the point of the blade near her feet. The sword lacks weight as it stands.

>>1901660

>>1902719
It looks like you wanted to do something more detailed than just shadow and light with the coloring and added a darker value where light and shadow meet. That does happen in real life, but not on all occassions and it's clear you don't quite understand how it works yet - the result looks more like a lot of unnecessary lines.

I recommend sticking with only light and dark for now (like you did on the white parts), once you can do that decently you can move on to more complicated stuff.

As for practicing cell shading, just look at how your favourite artists/anime do it. Ideally try to understand why they made which choice.
You could also read up more on how light and shadow work in real life and then simplify it, but that might still be a bit overwhelming at the moment.

>>1902947
well shit, youre right. ill spend more time with my sketches and direction before rushing to rendering. was about to slap some cat ears there. thanks a lot!

http://rocueto.deviantart.com/art/Valeria-Cainsson-Heritor-497023811?ga_submit_new=10%253A1417147177

This is my current best, I tried to emulate some stuff from Artgerm, Warren Louw and Sakimichan without being of a rip-off of either.
Sorry about dA, captcha is fucking up my image upload.

i wanted to paint random doodle, ended up cell-shaded ._.

i wanted to paint random doodle, ended up cell-shaded ._.

>>1902973
i think the most unappealing aspect of your anatomy is the torso and chest area. as a result everything else ends up suffering proportionally, like the arms. watch that pointy vagina too

>>1903043
another randomness

>>1902437
Name a teenager who isnt a smug little shit

>>1902426
>>1902434
>>1902429
I dont know how you do it but I just want to kiss their noses and ignore her body

>>1903076
your mom I guess

>>1903044
Thanks I can see that huge improvement even from the thumbnail.

Sup animu

>>1902737
Your gesture is amazing but i think that her backhead is a bit too big, like an alien. You draw the skull under the hair right? you obviously want to draw the hair just a little bit above the skull but not this much.

>>1902719
this would be good in animation.

i wish i could find more doujin like this
niku ringo and A-Teru Haito are like the only ones who do this sorta thing

>>1903166
Your gesture is fine i guess but your faces look amateur, maybe it's the lack of expression, the text suggests that she is going crazy but her expression seems stiff, when i read niku ringo the expressions are so strong that i feel them in me to the point that i unconsciously want to do them myself.

>>1903167

yeah it's my first time trying some ahegao stuff

ill work on it tomorrow

I am not sure if this is worth rendering

>>1903176
Yes I like it

>>1903176
This is sick dude

keep on going

>>1903176
Go for it, has potential

>>1903188
>>1903221
>>1903274

alright, will do

fuken draw something already faggots.

>>1903392
>>1903327

>>1903541
not my cup of pee but very nice.

>>1903392
Did something as fast as I could. I wish I didn't have to use the lasso tool for the torso I hate that.

>>1903554
could you post the references you use?

>>1903554

are you physically incapable of cleaning up your drawings

>>1903555
>>1903556
I admit it I am too lazy to make it cleaner

>>1903554
dude this is way better then previous ones.

>>1903568
Only because I used the lasso tool I swear let me show you before I used it. It's a crutch now it's not a tool anymore in my case because I keep doing this

>>1903568
Posted wrong one, it's only because I used the lasso tool I swear let me show you before I used it. It's a crutch now it's not a tool anymore in my case because I keep doing this

>>1903577
if you know you do long torsos then just be aware and dont do it lol
also the eyes should be higher
just use the lasso tool ;^)

>>1901773
Ehh... It's very well polished, and I kind of like the style, but's it's also pretty obnoxious. Though I guess it's fitting for a very obnoxious song. The hair and tail look oddly stiff in a lot of scenes, they should have made sure it all flowed better before they did the final lines.

I'm kind of sad that the talent and time was wasted on such a fucking shitty song.

>>1903577
Draw on paper more so you stop relying on digital tools.

>inb4 you cut and tape the paper

>>1903037
>posting links on an anonymous imageboard instead of image
Links like these go to the self-promotion thread

Try to paint textures yourself instead of bashing in photos and using many custom brushes.
The upper part of her sword arm is ridiculously long and her legs don't connect to the pelvis.

>>1903122
Ink this and we're friends

>>1903577
>what are layers
>what is construction

> my goal was to be an abstract artist
> mfw abstract art is fucking hard to succeed
> graduate high school, don't know what to do
> changes my goal to be a non-commercial artist
> work hard to get into college
> mfw seeing how non-commercial artist live their own miserable lives.
> mfw college teaches me nothing but bullshit
> comic book artist
> mfw i don't have any idea how to improve my skillz
> just draw what i want to draw over and over.
> mfw my drawing slowly looks kinda-okay


> mfw I realized that I have to go to the army because my country is currently in war.
> fucking 2 year long.

> I don't know what to do about it.
> so depressed.

> my goal was to be an abstract artist
> mfw abstract art is fucking hard to succeed
> graduate high school, don't know what to do
> changes my goal to be a non-commercial artist
> work hard to get into college
> mfw seeing how non-commercial artist live their own miserable lives.
> mfw college teaches me nothing but bullshit
> quit college. fuck it. lets be a comic book artist
> mfw i have no idea how to improve my skillz. also have zero acknowledge in comicz.
> just draw what i want to draw over and over.
> repeat 1 year
> mfw my drawing slowly looks kinda-okay


> mfw I realized that I have to go to the army because my country is currently in war.
> fucking 2 year long.

> I don't know what to do about it.
> so depressed.

>>1903639
do your best to avoid war
value life and reject the controlling hands of this patraichic control the world is still subdued under.
peace only comes from within...

>>1903649
>patraichic

>>>/tumblr/

>>1903649
kill yourself by choking yourself with dead fetus. Then kill yourself.

>>1903649
not this anon but

>>1903639
m8 don't tell me you're american - if so, you didn't have to join the fucking army

>tfw teal genuinely compliments you for your artwork
I'm sure he was just returning the compliment I sent him, but still... it feels really nice.

>>1903712
Stop it stop it stop it

>>1903554
>>1903557
>>1903577
You could make use of your construction lines better if you separate it with layers.

tiny bit of work

>>1903805

is this supposed to make me have a boner ?

looks messy and she looks like shit

I'm sorry if it's big and upside down (iPhone fag) any Cirts thanks

>>1903813
Not at all my intention sir.

>>1903814

Shred it. Pick up keys to drawing.

>>1903814

faces on girl on left is WAY off

also you are chicken scratching way too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

do these exercises and go study head construction (loomis books, also google kevin chen and charles hu and look for their demos, should be easy enough to find)

>>1903822
i tried to fix the face a bit

>>1903835

doesn't really look any better, unfortunately. you are really just better off studying head construction and not worry too much about fixing this one drawing.

>>1903835
The fundamentals are way off and the face is very symbol-y. Kind of looks like a potato with a line carved in and Mr. Potato pieces stuck on. The ponytail also looks like you just pinned it on, think of it as what it is: hair pulled away from the rest and tied up.

>>1902729
I thought she was sucking a huge fucking cock for about 45 seconds

I feel like I fucked it up.

>>1903871
You need to learn line weight.

Like right now.

>>1902955
You're probably long gone, but just so other internet strangers know I'm not full of shit, I did the expression chart thing.

I never realized how hard it was to figure out influences, parsing artist work that I like from what informs me is a tricky thing. I found Milt Kahl does what I want to do, Preston Blair as well (He worked under Tex Avery on Red Hot Riding Hood, which I loved.) I think I'll have to look at Yoshinari again.

>>1903871
I think the expression/eyes looked nicer in the initial sketch and the armpits/start of the breasts are a bit high up in both versions, but otherwise it's cute!

>>1903878 has a good point about line weight though. It's something that's relatively easy to learn to do at a decent level, yet can improve the overall look of a picture dramatically.

>>1902955
>>Now that I think about it your stuff also reminds me of the artist of Drakengard 2

that's kimihiko fujisaka, for the record.

some of his designs are a little questionable but his facial expressions aren't bad. as a weeb i've always found his art pretty enjoyable.

>tfw cant into anime and can only slightly stylize reality before it becomes unattractive

>try to improve line
>focus on what kind of line to make
>meanwhile my hand has been scribbling aimlessly back and forth on the page

Fuck me. This is what happens after playing too many RTS games.

done for now...

girl with feet

>>1904070
I liked the sketch better. I'd clean up the lines around the chest and maybe grab a reference for that kind of leaning back on your arms pose to get the shoulders right. Is that a trap or a futa?

>>1904078
i pretty much just colored the sketch, it's not final just doodling cause im getting annoyed with it

it would be hot to be a trap but the gigantic penis suggests futa

>>1904072

ugly feet

>>1904072
Fantastic toes. The darker valued part is a bit too dark Looks like a huge pit. Also I'd recommend make the feet smaller. She has a huge foot size just based on those soles. I'd say shorten so her right big toe is just over where her vagina would be. Smaller feet are more attractive.
I'll save and fap to it so hard if you do.

Has anyone seen any good black friday deals on draw pads?

>>1904110
>draw pads
m8 just go get a ream of a3 for a tenner

trying to stay clean line wise

>>1904072
Nice, I like the rendering style. However it does get a bit too dark on the feet there. I don't think the feet are too large in general, but rather too long.

>>1904124
you havent changed since the start of the year brah

>>1901780
This is a while after the fact, but that helped a ridiculous amount.

>>1904094
>>1904125
They're size 11

>>1904157
what do you mean? Compared to what?

>>1904200
compared to pic related, which was archived in january
your gains are nonexistent

>>1904206

>>1904206
what pic?

>>1904206
>>1904207
What are you talking about? I see obvious improvement there.

>>1904207
oh, that thing, nah, my anatomy is a lot better. Line quality too. Though another anon might want to chime in, I could be wrong.

>I don't even remember posting that

Done a bit more, it feels like I've fixed a lot of issues, though I've probably gone and made more. Still leery of that left hand though.

>>1904226
The biggest problem is that you're not seeing how the masses of the body foreshorten and overlap. The figure just look flat instead of in the extreme perspective you're going for. Especially the torso, I don't think we should even see the groin right now.

>>1904210
>>1904211
I guess theres some improvement; maybe I was being too pedantic

anyways, heres my contribution to the thread, before it devolves to pure shitposting

>>1904229
Well, i'd like to know what you think now that you're here.

>What made you think there was no improvement?
>Why have you changed your mind?
>You qualified that statement with some, how much improvement should there be?
>What can I do to improve more?

>>1904228
You might be right, the groin is directly below the shoulders in the windsurfing pictures I was looking at, but since the camera angle is slightly in front and she's leaning back it felt right having it like that. Still, I'll try your suggestion and see if it works better, thanks anon.

obviously not on par with the rest of the submissions in this thread, but I drew this in Flash the other day (am probably going to animate it, it's for a game)

I have always struggled with shading but I think I'm starting to reach a point where it doesn't look completely, completely off, even if it's simple.

>>1904261
I find your lack of legs disturbing

>>1904231
Its just how you developed your style, you kept the general proportions and the stylisation of the face very similar- I dislike how it turned out and would have made different stylisation choices. However, I realised that those choices are not a valid measure of improvement.

>What can I do to improve more?
maybe some variation in angle of faces and poses? all you seem to do is 3/4. your other views are lacking in >>1903929 . and also study perspective, i.e. the conflicting vanishing points of the face and body in >>1900053, refer to pic attached.

>how much improvement
all of the above

>>1904229
Not "pedantic". Just an asshole.

>>1904292
hmm, fair enough. I can't help if someone dislikes my "style", but I'll be conscious of same face/variation in head poses.

>Perspective.
Ok.

>All of the above
We're all gonna make it

>>1904305
Not a big deal, they explained themselves.

Blind leading the blind
I'm surprised how utterly shit this place has become
Not even worth coming for resources anymore

>>1904338

>>1904338
did you have a specific critique or are you venting after a bad day?

>>1904338
Stop projecting.

>>1904338
He's right. Just take a good hard look around.

how's this?

>>1904094
>make feet smaller
>smaller feet are more attractive


Ignore this anon.

>>1904390
>2013
TIME MACHINE MASTER

>>1904363
Heh, you copied that picture too?

>>1904363
>lip bite
>2D

aaaaand my pants got tighter

>>1904344
>fire red hair
Shes a fucking qt.
Cant just post that without sauce bruh

>>1904437

Go look at the actual post then,
>>1902688

>>1904390
Right foot doesn't connect to the leg properly. There are no visible ankles which gives me the impression Hinata's leg is a rubber stump with an ankleless foot slapped on it.

If you trace your drawings, you're not really taking the time to think about how the body actually works which leads to mistakes such as the one mentioned above.

Lol drew over a figure drawing.. Gotta work on hands and less boring poses.

>>1904462
You need to work on Perspective.

>>1904464
Yeah. i can do perspective bit still struggling. Need to draw more overall. I'm not sure what to do in order to improve my perspective mastery tho.. Should I draw buildings? Or make blocky mannequin in space

>>1904467
both.
and a still life

>>1904467
Find a reference of a model, one that shows the entire figure. Use simplified forms and relate them to a horizon line. The figure is affected by perspective the same way a building is, you need to show that in your drawings.

>>1903639
Do you have a tumblr/gallery ? I dig the style. Also good luck with the army man.

>>1904462
Arm's too thin and the hand's too small, both need work on the anatomy too. Her hairline also looks quite high.

>>1904467
use the building blocks of anatomy to crush your opponents

>>1904489
I will never understand what the sensation is of seeing a grisly/obese unappealing hairy man fucking. The only thing that would come close to me feeling pleasant is seeing an effeminate boy that passes as a trap doing the fucking, am I the only one?

>>1904496
Shut up.

>>1904496
>obese.
Are you talking about the pic or in general?

its "the bigger the man, the more power he carries" which most of the time aint true.
I mean Im a big guy, thats built like a football player [Guard] and I like girls of all sizes.

Also boipussy figure guys are only good for being fucked

>>1904503
In general

>>1904496
You need your eyes checked if you think that's grisly/obese.

>>1904505
Oh.
Well the market for Obese men wanting to get a woman is at an alltime high. So we, as artists take their money and complete their fantasy

>>1904496
Seems like a lot of hetero hentai that focuses on the female has her being fucked by a faceless dark-skinned hairy man, I don't like it much either but I think it's because it makes the man look more powerful and dominating and it also makes it more obscene for the girl to just be a sexual object for this animal.

>>1904523
>more obscene for the girl to just be a sexual object for this animal.
So the girl has character, a face and a personality where the male just is muscles and a blanked face

but still the girl is the one objectified?

the fuck am I reading

>>1904526
>the fuck am I reading
Hentai

>>1904526
it happens a lot in hentai
more for the "oh I'm the one fucking her" immersion stuff

there

>>1904462
The more I redlined the more I found to critique...

I hope this helps, though I'm not the best artist on /ic/.

>>1904338
where?
I cant see anything anon :^)

>>1904439
It's Amagi Brilliant Park. The girl's are very thick, it's nice.

>>1904442
Oh, thought it came from a cutey 3d loli.

>>1904496
I prefer ladyboys and girls getting fucked by grown men (conventionally attractive) because I enjoy the contrast. Also I have an obsession with tightness, so I enjoy men who look like they're packing to self-insert as. Pencil-dicks and overly small shota penis can actually ruin my experience even in hetero stuff.

Granted I'm not afraid to say I'm pretty gay.

>>1904585

Fixed neck a little bti and tried adding simple shading.

>>1904698
I googled it and instantly remember the bear.
I don't know why i stopped watching it, because it was fucking Hilarius.
thanks anon.

>>1904702
At least you admit that you are gay, cause im tired of hearing 'feminie dick' like its the norm.
Granted, I have the exact same thing as your opinion except for
>Pencil-dicks and overly small shota penis can actually ruin my experience even in hetero stuff.
Big dicks turn me waaaaaaaay off. small cute dicks are where its at, for me at least.
It has that /ss/ [straight shota] feel.

>>1904759
>not liking big feminine dicks

Fucking faggot

>>1904760
I bet you jerk off to Incase, faggot

>>1904750

Tried drawing face in different style. I dunno.

>>1904806
>anime face on a western body

Its an abstract kind of boner

>>1904759
Fag you responded to. Feminine dick? Haha, what?

>>1904814
>western body

???

>>1904814
>western body
But isn't what defines animemanga in contrast with western cartoons the depiction of more realistic bodies alongside a heavily stylized face?

>>1904829
nope

>>1904839

Don't know if I'll color it or just shade with screentones... Or maybe just a simple cel shading?

>>1904674
Thanks for taking the time to criticize thoroughly. The more I read the more I realized I just vaused massive confusion by drawing over another drawing. The figure in the back is not supposed to be part of the clown girl. The hairline was intentionally high but except from that any abatomy errors are just mistakes. Just wanted to have a little bit of fun without using any ref and thought I would post it. I kinda like the feel of it, although it is confusing. Here is another drawing from me a little older

>>1904806
Right now it looks a bit off disconnected because the head is a bit small (with stylization like that you usually see rather large heads) and the lines are so much thinner than on the rest of the picture - at least the outline of her face should be thicker.

>>1903603
I'm sorry, captcha kept reloading while the image loaded and didn't let me post.
Thanks a lot for the critique.

>>1904839
STOP WITH THE FUCKING EYES

>>1904839
why the blue lines? do you want people to recognise you or is it actually just a personal preference? It just seems like such an awkward colour.

>>1904860
Damn gurl, raise dat booty or make dem legs longer.

>>1904892
>>1904892
Personal choice I picked it up from fun with a pencil's personified professor blook. Andy sure knows how to make an everlasting character

>>1901660
Some assets...
prolly not as entertaining as the usual lolly porn >,<

>>1904922

>>1904825
Its the Bailey Jay syndrome. Feminie dick is just a "soft" dick, not in hardness but on the eyes.

>>1904827
>>1904829
I dont know, the body looks kinda wierd

>>1904860
Raise May's ass before I steal your icecream

>>1904922
>>1904924
Its a nice change of pace.
I personally like it

>>1904363
>mikufag did an appealing face

have science gone too far ?

I can't backgrounds. Send help.

>>1904959
why is her right leg melting?

>>1904959
It's the muscle/fat on her thighs.

I did the pose in the mirror and that's what it looked like. Should I pull it back?

>>1904959
Too cool on the face man, too cool. She is starting to look like a vampire.

>>1904963
meant to quote >>1904961

>>1904963
take it easy on the shading?

Corrected May pose, finished Shauna lines and dunno about the rendering... Maybe I'll try rendering with ambient occlusion technique.

>>1904959
the whole angle is fucked,
like her legs have no perspective, but her body does somewhat.
Also her pose is soo awkard. her spine is super twisted in this position. prolly broken if rl

CnC's?

>>1905027
Do you have the construction sketch still?
You have this problem where you seem to focus on just one particular area and not concentrating on the overall drawing at the beginning.

Limbs on her right side / right hand looks generally so much larger compared to her left.

>>1905038
And just to add to this, the larger limbs on the left is really stuffing around with the perspective of the figure, its like her left side is meant to be close to us but the proportion is larger but it shouldn't be if you follow the axis of the shoulder and hips as it's going away from us.

>>1905038
>>1905039

>>1905041
Exaggerate the gesture, it's too stiff.
>remember kids, you don't render bad poses

>>1905056
actually tried to exaggerate.
;_;

>>1905041
Ok sorry about the wait.

From your construction you can see you have some proportion issues and just consistency. Her left arm from the shoulder to the elbow it's roughly the same size as to the elbow to the wrist, all fine for style, but on her right arm, the forearm is greater than her upper arm. Also making the hand bigger in the final and moving the elbow down to compensate makes a fat limb.

Second issue is with the legs and general posing. The thighs you pretty much drew it straight down, then moved the calves in opposite direction. Cover the image from above the knees with your hand and you can see what I mean. Cover the image from above the knees and your lower legs don't even look like they come from the same person.

>>1905072
I can't really understand the pose like you were trying to knock the knees but then don't. It's very unbalanced and doesn't look at all feasible at all.
To be honest it feels like went straight on into construction of the individual parts instead of using a gesture to connect it together.

Keep perspective in mind, simple guides as straight parallel and slightly converging lines from shoulder to shoulder, chest, waist, knees and floor keeps your figure in check and proportioned.

Also draw an ellipse on the floor for your figures shadow and imagine where the feet will be touching the floor in regards to that shadow if your pose ever seems awkward.

>>1905084
Still don't like the thigh/lower leg interaction I'm sure a better skilled person can fix it up even further.

>>1904759
>feminine dick

>>1905027
proportions fucked, esp. hands. shoes are melting, head too small. highlights are messy and everything too shiny. skirt too thick when it shouldn't be. right arm is too thick. little monster doesn't make any sense. ribbons on hair hardly look like ribbons. your rendering's OK, work on drawing better. it's easy to fuck up form when painting. oh, and jaw line too sharp, like she's wearing a mask.

>>1905027
>>1905041

>>1905264
what the hell is going on with those cats?

>>1903557
Where do I get references of 3dpd gooks?

>>1904924
why are you even here?
also do u have a blog?

>>1905269
> drawing "MUH STYLE" over someone else's
get the fuck out

>>1905322
Seeing stuff from a diff perspective is incredibly valuable imo. even if its some shithead hating it could still be used, or learned from. critique is priceless!

eh, sorta: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1215490/25

>>1905009
Give me your tumblr before I die, and let me be buired between May's thighs

>>1905264
All those pussies in one picture

>>1905293
here
http://erotiqueeee.tumblr.com/

>>1905448
http://kadavr3.tumblr.com/

lol

>>1905632
>http://kadavr3.tumblr.com/
>that last photo with the DSL that I told you to keep in

ah, now I remember you.
I followed you with my porn/funny tumblr

>>1905663
DSL?

One of illustrations for a board game I'm working on as a present for a friend. Any good?

>>1905009

The ball on the left seems much smaller than the one on the right. Is it supposed to be so?

The hands are very weak compared to the rest of the figure. The left thumb on the left figure seems too long. The foreshortening on the right forearm is improper. It seems as if it wraps around her torso like a snake.

Both hands of the right figure appear small. The left hand does not seem to wrap around the ball. The hand pose is unattractive, and also flattens the ball. Try holding a ball or study baseball pitchers. The pinky and ring fingers tend to hold the base of the ball, while all the other fingers balance it. Don't cup the ball with the palm, hold it with fingers.

Her right shoulder seems small, or left shoulder seems large. Or maybe it's a bit of both.

The left foot is small when compared to the right, and appears to float in midair because of how the ball of the foot is visible. I'd recommend either flattening the entire foot against the ground in proper perspective, or redraw it so that she is resting only on the heel, with toes clearly pointed into the air. Don't do something in between like this for a stand alone illustration, it's ambiguous.

The contours of the left leg are not proper given the pose. Redline it for yourself and connect it to the iliac crest, and you should get a clearer sense of the problem.

Everything else can be chalked up to stylistic choice.

>>1905692
why are the irises blurred? that should be the focal point. It causes the whole thing to seem out of focus.

>>1905696
Is this better? I dunno, when I started it seemed to be going great, now I'm not sure if I'm polishing it or making it worse... Thanks for the tip tho, seems better this way to me.

>>1905700
Ok..., sorry for spamming guys but I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this which is something I haven't felt in a long, long time.. and it feels damn good. Also I'd like to post the original image I posted a few months ago on /ic/. That was the first time I posted anything in 2 years of lurking and this is the second time. You guys pointed out what I have been doing wrong and gave me a few tips and pdf`s to learn from, and I do feel like it has helped me a lot, tho I am still just learning. Thanks /ic/, you may be a small group of loud and argumentative artists, but you do know your shit, and tho often sarcastic and seemingly nasty your comments may be, there is good intention and actual knowledge behind them, most of the time. Long story short, if you're a beginner like me, there are things to learn here, if you accept the criticism and learn from it. Have a nice day /ic/.

>>1905700
Ok..., sorry for spamming guys but I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this which is something I haven't felt in a long, long time.. and it feels damn good. Also I'd like to post the original image I posted a few months ago on /ic/. That was the first time I posted anything in 2 years of lurking and this is the second time. You guys pointed out what I have been doing wrong and gave me a few tips and pdf`s to learn from, and I do feel like it has helped me a lot, tho I am still just learning. Thanks /ic/, you may be a small group of loud and argumentative artists, but you do know your shit, and tho often sarcastic and seemingly nasty your comments may be, there is good intention and actual knowledge behind them, most of the time. Long story short, if you're a beginner like me, there are things to learn here, if you accept the criticism and learn from it. Have a nice day /ic/.

>>1905664
Dick
Sucking
Lips

>>1905764
>bags under eyes
"Nigga im tired of this shit"

>>1902979
you are most definitely right, i was flailing around for a good bit and definitely did a lil too much of the whole darker line thing ( i dont think it's bad but i did over do it). in this one i tried to do it less. either way imma try to post regularly so i'd really appreciate your continued guidance

>>1905791
i guess i forgot the pic

>>1904839
miku fag, you need to practice faces. you only draw anime. you need to practice anime faces then. or something. your eyes need help. they're better than when you started, but they are not good. if you improved from then, you can improve from now.
i like that you always draw cute girls
i want to be a cute girl

This thread went to shit fetish hell.

>>1905764
These are quite nice actually.

Just two things:
Is the left one a child or an adult small person?
Small people have small legs, children's legs are almost as long as their torso plus head. Just check where Loomis has put the midpoint, the cross in the pic.

Second thing:
If you show the white above the iris, it will always look like he's surprised or shock. At least in that style.
Mark Kennedy wrote seomthing about cartoon eyes and realistic eyes here:
http://sevencamels.blogspot.de/2006/10/things-they-dont-teach-in-art-school-2.html

Keep up the good work!

>>1905813
just to add:
You can actually pull of small legs on children or floating pupils when you stylize the figure enough. But as it is now, the style of the pictures looks too realistic so it looks like a mistake. (In Paranorman everyone has ridiculous small legs)

>>1905810

>>1905695

The hands seems very weak indeed now that I look at them with fresh eyes. Her shoulders are awkward, I'll try re sizing them to see how it looks.

The feet and the leg problem is there too, although the pose of the feet is like that but I'll add ground to cover that up later, they're in a beach, so the ground wound't be flat.

There was another mistake with the white chick, where her chin didn't lined up with the line I did, but it's corrected now.

I don't agree with the arms wrapping her body, though.

Anyway, thanks for the critique, I just don't know if it's worth making all that effort with this kinda of pic and get this long to finish it when the initial intention was to make those at a faster rate.

>>1905776

hahahahaha

>>1905340
Not him but It's a far better redline than >>1905041

It fixes problems with the gesture and pose whereis the other one was attempting to fix the anatomy while drawing exactly the same stiff pose on top of it.

>>1905961
The second post isn't the red line but the original construction

>>1905822
Try not to put the nose directly in between both of her eyes. Especially when the drawing is portraying a 3/4 view.

>>1905813
Yeah the one on the left was supposed to be a child, but I messed up the perspective, horizon line and what you said about proportions... And thanks for the tip on the eyes! I will redo them, didn't even realize I made him look surprised.

>>1905822
>>1906003

>>1906024
Kr0npr1nz, is that you?

>>1906025
да

done trying to polish this
really want to practice more instead

>>1906029
hnnggggg
nice polish

>>1906029
>beefy loli
wat dude

>>1902917
>>1905027
>>1905041
Hey guys, thanks for the comments on these. Trying to fix the stiffness of my drawings and do some exaggeration on my poses as pointed out from my previous drawings.

How am I doing so far?

im struggling with this. what mistakes so far

>>1906029
>>Distance from belly to crotch too long
>>Lack of attention to planes of the legs

>>1906047
1. Girls don't have penises

>>1906060
Yes they do, it's only shy and hiding behind curtains.

>>1906060
its a seman deamon.

>>1906047
The eyes on the girl to the right are crooked.
The horn on the semen demon are misaligned it looks like you tried to fit that one on the left into the frame but it ended up being off.
Please don't have the knees be fuckin fire engin red like that when you're done.
Make sure you indicate where the flesh of the leg folds over the side of the desk

>what mistakes so far
you're wasting your talent on anime dickporn

>>1906064
ah good points.

>>1906065
what "talent"?
if it's all he's good at, it would be a waste not to do that, right?
what would be the alternative? being able to draw naked human meatbags is not in demand anywhere except internet porn.
i don't even like weeb porn, but i can't agree with you.

>>1905811
People dont know how to release themselves, and always wait for their gf.
its sad

>>1906038
looks good

>>1906030
i try my best
>>1906031
strong little girls are the best.
>>1906058
is this better?

>>1906065
>>1906086

>>1906065
git gud and you too can make faggot dickgirls

Will I learn anything from copying posable mannequins like this?
I have a few years of experience drawing from observation, but I'm just starting trying to learn to draw from imagination.
I just feel like I'll end up learning to draw the mannequin, and not how to pose shit.
(I guess I should be trying to apply loomis skeletons to them?)

>>1906121
why don't you just draw real people

>>1906124
It's just convenient to be able to pose the mannequin any way you want.
Also I'm irrationally paranoid of people finding the reference I'm using.

>>1906121
In the legendary words of Vilppu the magician,
>"WE DO NOT COPY THE MANNEQUIN!"

>>1906130
I guess I'm just having a hard time not copying it because all I've done is observational drawing. Guess I just need to practice the skeletons more.

>>1906121
thats a mannequin?

>>1906130
elaborate please.
why do we not copy the mannequin?

>>1906026

kek

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>>1906317
>>1906317
>>1906317