/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1888129
you're a greasy bastard ya know?

>>1888165
this is grotesque im sorry..

i made a mess of this. maybe someone likes it

and then just regular stuff

this one was kinda cool

and heres a bust of her head. didnt erase the pencil cause i didnt change the outline that much

>>1888209
That shading looks like the skin on your balls

>>1888206
i cleaned this up

Drew this for free. If anyone could red line the parts I fucked up I'd appreciate it.

>>1888221
i made this things penis a bunch of faces

>>1888237

next time anyone asks you to work for free you tell him to go fuck himself. at the very least charge minimum wage. fuckface.

>>1888237

>drawing for fun instead on working on your fundamentals

get the fuck out of here hippie!

>>1888329

seriosly guys. i thought we had all agreed not to let these subhuman hobbyists out of the hobbyist concentration ghetto.

>>1888129
Done in pencil, and I haven't drawn in pencil in quite a while

fun fun fun

>>1888341
fuck off samefag

If you want to be a hobbyist, why do you care about improving and why should we help you?

So you can then claim whenever you don't agree with our crits that you are just a hobbyist who doesn't care all that much about anatomy?

>>1888380

lol what? i can't follow you anon. i was just trying to be funny. also i wasn't samefagging. not even sure who you think i was samefagging as (?)

either you are confused as fuck, or i am.

>>1888380

Christ go draw and relieve some steam

>>1888380
>the joke
>your head

>>1888383
>>1888385
>>1888387
Wow, the samefaggotry is strong in this one
what's that last one even supposed to mean? You're not funny and you suck at art, just leave

please go play in traffic or something

>>1888391
I can only shake my head. Good luck to you in your future endeavors, anon. I can't imagine it's easy getting by when you're being held back by a learning disability.

>>1888394
>when you're being held back by a learning disability
kek'd, not sure why but I wasn't expecting this lol

just doing a test run

Is this a decent enough design for a tattoo? It's not necessarily anything too fancy, I'm probably going to end up giving it to the real tattoo artist and he'll change it up as he sees fit. But if I hand it to him, is he going to scoff or laugh in my face? Keep in mind this is going on someone's body. A friend asked me to draw it up for her, she's the one who wants it. Just tell me if there's anything wrong please, if not for my sake then for the sake of the person who is going to have this permanently inked on their body.

repainting a painting I did a few weeks back with stuff I learned

>>1888409

>>1888427
arm doesnt make sense, thighs are retardedly huge

>>1888427
right arm a lil funky and I'm not much of a fan of the facial expression

>>1888448
now that bagbosse is gone, you are taking over?

>>1888450
no,no i think he is way better

>>1888453
i disagree, both are shit.

at least he doesnt talk as much

>>1888450
I like this guy more, bagbosse tagged every post he made with his drawings. This guy stays pretty contained in the draw threads, less self promoting.

And his thumbnails look semi interesting, but when I click on them I always feel trolled. I find this amusing rather than annoying

>>1888460
bagbosse was basically avatarfagging, that is true.

let's leave it at that. enough threads have been ruined by shittalking about certain tripfags

Was inspired by >>1888074 to draw a chameleon.

>>1888427
i think the thumbnail looks okay
but what is the story to this? what are you trying to say?
>>1888409
neato
>>1888129
the eyes are not paralel to the nose and mouth

>>1888429
nice. values and composition are looking really interesting so far

>>1888409
really cool

Am I gud or should I sepuku?

>>1888448
I wanna see what your stuff would look like if it was done with traditional paints

Most of the people posting here should be in the beginner thread. what the fuck

>>1888623
Most people aren't cunts like you

>>1888592
grind perspective and forms in perspective.

also, work on your lines, so messy.

>>1888623

woah am i that bad anon ;_;

>>1888544

also question

how much should it take to finish a character like, lets say, the ones i see for paizo?

>>1888422
Feathers on the right wing are thinner and more numerous than the feathers on the left wing.

why are you so hard motion

>>1888626
Go back to tumblr
>>1888650
>woah am i that bad anon ;_;
judging by that, yes

>>1888443
Thanks Ireland

>>1888684
Motion comes with blur.
The animation thread expalnis more

>>1888698
h-how can i improve anon?

>>1888409
Very cool. Wish it was a higher quality webm or something.

>>1888729
You're not gonna get any real advice from that anon, he's just trying to make you and anyone else he can feel bad.

I have an odd question, maybe it's odd maybe it isn't I just don't know where to ask it.

How come when I draw in ms paint it's so expressive, easy to portray shapes and landscapes, and simply fun.

And when I draw in a real program such as photoshop it's rigid, uninteresting, hard to even get basic things to look decent.

I'm just baffled and lack any enthusiasm to use photoshop or sai.

>>1888750
U can draw with whatever u want program. Its not like "you have to use ps" but it is the industry standard and the good program.. If u just want to use ms paint for urself and have fun with it, why not? It's nice to try other programs though, there's also painter and clip/manga studio. So have fun, if u want to go industry u have to ps though

>>1888754
Ah, it's really hard to explain this shit.

Essentially, it's not that I don't want to use ps or sai, exactly the opposite, I really want to.

It's the fact that my drawing are quite decent in a simple program like paint, and utter shite while using ps.

>>1888750
That is odd indeed. Maybe your tablet is screwed up and isn't working as well in PS or Sai. You could always try to use the pencil tool in PS/binary tool in Sai. Maybe that would be like the MS Paint experience?

>>1888750
because you are limited in your choices - maybe you're trying to go too much into details when you're in PS.

doodling.
I was pretty pleased with this, tell me why i shouldn't be

>>1888849

>>1888849
It's a fun doodle, dude :)
Could be an avatar if you simplify and change the face.

>>1888859
>It's a fun doodle
maybe this should be my mindset more when i'm drawing!
thank you

Self portrait drawing in pen

>>1888573
colouring now

>>1888573
nice

Fixed a few things on her. And started shading lightly.

And for the anons wanting a granny version of her, I am sketching on it.

>>1888283
Retard

I'm going out of my mind trying to draw a cycloped face that still looks structurally accurate. advice?

>>1889091
you seem to be struggling with form, your drawings look a bit flat. having a stronger grasp of faces in general would help you.

also might be a good idea to search for other artists' renderings of cyclops and take some notes.

Please critique my Paul McCartney.

>>1889105
You drew it sideways.

>>1889105

eyes are off/assymetrical, looks kinda flat, line quality needs some work

>>1889105
a good likeness anon, keep at it

>>1889105
watch the bridge of the nose, also post your ref.

took one of the studies from beginner thread, started blocking in shapes.

This is the ref that i drew it from (middle pic)

Re-Upload Right side up

>>1889118

don't worry anon, i got your back

here you go.

>>1889118
>right side up

Literally right side up

>>1888961
legs are freakishly huge. is she supposed to be stiltwoman or something?

>>1889116
>mfw he does have a crooked nose

Apologies, I still think the nose is off. While he does have a skewed nose as far as your ref shows, the shape is still "off". You've straightened it, making the nose look like a mistake rather than the slalom of his bridge.

too fat just like sharkiesha

>>1889118

gah dummit anon, get it together

>>1889134
Nope, I will fix them.

>>1889099
I've searched and searched for other artist's renditions, they are all heavily cartoony and therefore flat. I agree that maybe I should study regular facial structure more before I try to bend the physics and make my own structure. Thanks.

>>1888961
>>1889134
>>1889152
Thick Thighs Save Lives.
fuck off Ireland

>>1889091
>top right head
thats some /d/ level stuff right there.
and its turning me on

I am still working on this. Give me your crits. But I swear to God, if you guys are mean to me il tell your mothers.

>>1888961
Via has a nice ass.
You colors are good, I like the character. Are you planing to do somthing with these charicter, like a comic.

trying to reverse engineer painterlyness. laughing at myself for how retarded it is to paint clean and then mess it up just for looks and pseudo-stroke-economy. still kind of interesting.

>>1888582
>>1888544
>>1888742

thanks guise.

>>1888461
>>1888460
lets us rejoyce that he is no chunbum-park

>>1889261

i'm happy as long as there's no illastrat anywhere near the draw thread.

rockin out!

>>1889266
and this sexy lady

>>1889265
wise words

This is my first digital painting, an attempt in studying Caucasian skin tone.
25 hours in CS5 with photo reference.
Critique please.

>>1889280

not sure how much can be learned painting over a photo mate

>>1889280
Looks good. About what I'd expect from such a long photo study.

>>1889283
photo reference means you look at the photo and try to replicate it

unless you're purposely accusing him of tracing

in that case I hope you have proof or something, because many people including myself are capable of replicating photos to a very high degree of accuracy without tracing.

>>1889280
Actually, looking at it again, the ear looks pretty wonky, and the top of the head might need slightly more volume (I'd have to see the ref).

>>1889280
>post the reference

>>1889280
That filename kinda implies that it's not your image....

>>1889280
Holy shit. You actually deleted your post & reposted it in this Draw Thread instead of complaining. Thanks for being responsible and courteous.

I looked at your other work and this is an insane improvement over your traditional work (pic related), especially given that this is your first attempt at digital work. If you're bullshitting us, then fuck you. If not, great job. However, I am skeptical given the quality of your other traditional work. Why is this one so much better than the others?

There's not much to critique unless we can see the reference photo. The skin tones are very well colored, and it seems you achieved your goal. If you wanted to finish this up, you could really work on the towel a bit.

>>1889285

not accusing, i just believe that it's what he did. maybe he is not aware of how to properly study and thinks that everyone just paints over photos or something.

i'm not making a big deal out of it, if he claims not to, i'll believe him. but it does look like it imo.

>>1889188
While I do agree that thighs and ass are the best part of a woman, he is correct about her legs being to long.
>>1889214
Thanks. It's for a personal project where I am creating a JRPG party and exploring character design.

>>1889289
Thanks that was me in 2009.

>>1889289
Hey bro, did you notice he spent 25hrs?

Yah, hes bullshittin, he spent 24 wankin and 1 plagiarizing

Also, you dont need ref to crit this, whats wrong with you?

When you see a rubens in a museum do you also go "hmmm i would have to see the real model first"? I hope not because you can stop painting now then, if thats how much you trust your own vision


>>1889280
Nice piece! Not much crit tbh.. I think the ref must have been nice, you dont happen to have it around anymore? Long shot since its been 5yrs as you say?

>>1889238
You still learn that way so its all gud
At least you are painting

Vanderpoel

Anyone have advice on how to approach these as to learn the most? Copy or construct?

>>1889290
I did a sketch and then a base color. I started experimenting with midtones and ways of blending. I tried to create texture. I also tried a lot of brushes. I tried to do sfumato with transfer on and pen pressure. Many of the experiments is on the shower cap.

i did overlap the photo to check the contour lines before i started with shadows and highlights.
The chin was off and i cut down the shape according to the picture. I guess that is also considered as tracing and cheating.

>>1889351
I guess they're right i did cheated. I'll post the reference when i get home.

>>1888961
strangely erotic ass

This was my first attempt at airbrushing. Did I good? I honestly haven't felt this proud of something in a while. Please tell me if there's anything wrong with it, I want to get better at this. I know the hair could use some work, any advice on that, perhaps?

>>1889395
I'm not an expert on airbrushing but I do like your picture, it's a really good resemblance of Sigourney Weaver.

If I had to guess at something to improve upon, I'd say she needs more range in lighter shades. The shadows that you've done are great and provide a lot of depth but there aren't any highlights anywhere, except for the reflection in her eyes.
It doesn't look natural since a human will have more of a range of how light gets reflected from the surface of our skin, the left of her face looks undefined compared to the shading on the right.

Concentrate on where to apply the highest values of light.

>>1889403
Okay, that makes sense. I actually thought the left side of her face was too bright so I darkened it, it's impressive that you were able to point that out! I'll work on the lighter areas of whatever subject I choose to airbrush next. Do you think the hair could be improved, or is it good enough as is? I tried using a harder brush for the single strands of hair but they stand out too much compared to how soft the rest of the image is. Thanks for responding!

>>1889405
I reckon that the hair is good, plenty of detail, but perhaps not enough variety.

Like I said I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to airbrushing, but you'd want the image to be realistic no? The softened quality is too uniform and might need to be broken up by lots of 'harder' information throughout the image, to avoid it looking like seeing through a filter. Keep it up!

Just got my new tablet pen, ideas flowing, doing some fan art first

>>1889387

>>1889448
Why did you obscure the hands in the later version?

>>1889348
the date says different duud

>>1889448
post the ref

>>1889389
If you CHECKED the contours and adjusted thats not cheating per se. You could finish a crappy sketch, or you could sketch, then fix. Best would be fixing without tracing, but this was q great exercise in painting do thats the main point of the study

If you're going to brag with this then yeah, cheating yourself. Just think for 5 seconds if youre going to pretend you did this legit, and people start asking you to draw them, lol

Colors,and rendering look really nice, again, which is what you should take out of this EXERCISE

Use this as portfolio piece and you're screwed till the day you can actually do this, imo

>>1889458
Lmao quite the cross interrogation going on here, poor poster

Now call me samefag and its done

>>1889458
I was thinking of Klimt's golden shower.

>>1889477
>Lmao
>cross interrogation
>poor poster
>samefag
>its done

Excuse me? I simply asked about the hands.
Sounds like you should grow up instead of overreacting, apparently, on someone else's behalf.

>>1889478
Fair enough

>>1889477
I see, process of learning fundamental is as important right? It's been a while since I painted.
>>1889459
well, it was done in 2009 but I didn't post it till later. >>1889472
I don't think I should.

>>1888129
i hate the way you draw women. they look like corpses and i'd prefer it if we didnt start every draw thread with a picture of them.

haha fuck this

>>1889479

he was being funny. relax niglet.

>>1889526
amazing

>>1889293
>Long = Big
wow

>>1889357
>value drawing
I need to do studies for it.
Yoji Shinkawa [artist for metal gear]
has similar stuff

>>1889526
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you.
>drumroll
farting asses

>>1889559
Seemed more like he was getting disproportionately mad.

>>1889604
Stilts usual refers to length, not volume.

>>1889609
Looks like an aux cable going into his ear.
Am I correct?

>>1889632
True.
All argument aside I guess we have different tastes in thighs

>>1889633
yeah I guess so. I had to look up what aux cables are I didn't know the name. It's a cyborg.

>>1889526
I dont want to hop on the tumblr nose bashing bandwagon but in that example you could have made the red nose a little more subtile. But other than that nice work breh, post more

>>1889167
>they are all heavily cartoony and therefore flat
What?

>>1889633
It looks cool.
But does the piece have a meaning?
If its a cyborg, why is it in a supposedly late 1800's diner?

>>1889167
>cartoony
>flat
You have been looking at the wrong people for inspiration

>>1889650
That's the mystery of it.

I realized that Ive got a huge problem with forms and shapes, trying to fix that and do things the proper way from start to finish,. also fixing up my same-face syndrome here. Anyone know how to make smooth gradients, not like in the picture provided?

WIP

>>1889684
whoops forgot my trip, sorry im drunk

>>1889614
I expected it to say "seven" asses..

>>1889714
huh?

>>1889714
Huh?

>>1889722
It's a reference from something, pretty well-known in the fandom so if you don't get it, you must not watch that show, so I guess you weren't playing on that.

>>1889723
I see, Im not that much into chinese cartoons or any of that stuff

>>1889684
either she has hig heels with that suit or t rex arms
also you gotta add some lights on that suit

>>1889724
don't feel bad, I missed the reference too, I didn't even realise that drawing was fanart for a show

>>1889728
Yeah, im gonna give her high heels, arms are to proportions of an asian female, they are quite short if im right, gonna add more lighting there, cheers

any tips on how to improve w/ pastels?im very new to this

>>1889732
oh i fucked up the size
eh, sorry

>>1889732
Establish the areas in the sketching phase, dont just scribble, use patience and work slow, get the feel of the medium and see how they work. Im not familiar with pastels either but thats just how you go with traditional.

>>1888372
Why are you hurting that paper?
It looks like you were grabbing that pencil harder than needed and your lines became "cracky".
Go with this to the beginner thread, you'll get more useful critique for you there

what should I do with this? this is the reference >>1887357

>>1889805
It's a good study but maybe you should practice a bit more with lighting and how the shadows behave.
It looks as though you have copied the light values rather than understood them.

Good picture so far though, keep working on it.

>>1888573
looks good anon

>>1888544
Thanks, I hope they are less wrong now.

Any tips

I've been studying anatomy more, like you guys said, especially arms. I'll keep doing more, of course, but here's some progress.

projects due monday..I have no idea if this looks good or not.. crits VERY ENCOURAGED! Thank you!!

>>1888427
>>1888443
but but I like big thighs :(
>>1888446
I tried fixing the arm, used my friends hand as ref, hope it's alright now
>>1888544
she met ur knight duud and they talked a little, she told him of her dreams for adventures she wanted to do, how she wanted to slay monsters, he decided to fullfill her dreams and gave her a magic sword with also a promise to teach her how to fight in return for her love.

This already looks like 10times better than my earlyer version, the actual idea is that I want to archive pretty with good fundamentals with these paintings, it's more like a practice and ehh I want to hope to get any kind of commissions soon :P

>>1889991
i did some quick tweaking and I'm reposting..still..really would appreaciate feedback! Or at least my problem areas in anatomy/rendering/color

Why is the pose so static and how can I fix it?

How can I make him more intimidating?

>>1890027
looks like you pasted grandad's head on a buff guys body. It doesn't fit at all.

>>1890031
:' - )

>>1890031
: ^ )

>>1890038
>>1890031

girekt turdpolisher

this ones kinda trippy

>>1890000
done for today

drew a shitty door. or something.

I didn't know where else to post this but I here's a sketch I did of a few OCs I did

>>1888237
I'm pretty new, but I did notice that the hand holding the hammer does't seem to be at the right position to be holding the hammer. It should be twisted more towards the viewer. This is a problem that I am currently facing, so I'm seeing it a lot

>>1888209
the shadowing might work better without the outline

i made this after watching this video, is it fine art yet?
I'm Not trolling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW6YrdVzyEQ

>>1889897
>irises are always perfect circles without any perspective
no

>>1890159
It's only fine art if there's some sort of deep message that is attached to it

Around 10-15 minutes

Sorry for big size, alot of content.
Would like critique on finishing or layout. but any other is fine aswell :D

>>1890262
Quite a few perspective problems. The designs are neat though, and are presented nicely, especially your references. I'm not a big fan of reading Arakis 50 times, but if you broke this up into separate pages it wouldn't bother me as much.

>>1890262
Perspective could be more solid. Some drawings need scale reference. Page layout is confusing because it is inconsistent.

More work on the neosamurai gal, fixed up most of the proportions too. critique welcome.

>>1890279
>>1890288

Aye thanks for the crit. they are actually multiple pages, but didnt feel like uploading 5 of them.. variation in layout too much eh? okey. scale ref totally forgot, not sure if necessary tho since imma build a full city.
These are just sketches so i was kinda loose with them, its mainly the circles out of perspective am i right?

More work on the neosamurai gal, fixed up most of the proportions too. critique welcome.

More work on the neosamurai gal, fixed up most of the proportions too. critique welcome.

>>1890300
Japan stronk!

Japanese has more oval face. Japanese has tight skin. She looks more Chinese than Japanese.

>>1890313
cheers, ill look into it, maybe dig up some reference.

>>1890300
You draw arms too short. Observe them in relation to their crotch.

>>1890329
Yeah i have a habit of doing that, fixing, thanks.

>>1890300
I think, unlike Finnmongols or Chinese people, Japanese people have lower cheekbones around the nose, if that makes any sense. There is also more distance between eyes and eyebrows. I also gave a lighter shade on the eyeball for the big eye kawaii onna look.

>>1890360
Fuck, forgot picture

>>1888961
nice. rminds me of the artwork of some FF game
>>1889280
isnt that one of the leaked nude pics of Jlaw lel
>>1889897
cross eyed and long nose. check your thirds
also no nipples, and im not sure what kind of drapery is that
>>1890027
because he is just standing there in tension showing off his abs. make him do something
>>1890103
if it is for practice then you should have worked more on the sss of the hand
she is not casting any shadow and the folds are done really lazily
not to mention that with that pose she seems amputated

>>1890331
change the eyes, please!! i beg you

>>1889714
Thats what I was going for, yea.
>>1889723
>>1889724
Its gamegrumps. Not a fandom, but a simple joke

>>1889991
looks alright, for now.
Did you sketch before you laid down the paint?

>>1890294
>red
>teal blue
>orange
Are they factions?

>>1890331
Get rid of the over used moon.
I know she is a salor moon-esqe character.
If you need something back there, put a bridge over a river.
And the eyes need to be gouged out

>>1890361
>>1890360
Your words could have stood on their own, if you didnt mention the parts you changed.
Good job.

Help

>>1890499
Sorry about the bad photo , here is the reference

>>1890457
keep up the good work.

>>1890103
>>1890379

I-I am not finished! Didn't realise the amputated fact though =/

>>1890401
Aah, noo they are just colors to put them apart from eachother, im building a 3d model to draw on top on atm

>>1890499
You know how the nose meets the brow ridge, but you didnt draw it, because you know its a subtle change, and doesnt warrant a construction line.

Despite knowing this, you DID draw a line any way for the far lip-meeting and far smile line, even though they are contrasted enough to show up in the picture.

The only reason I noticed this is because I just today realized that I have been doing it too

>>1890560
> they are NOT contrasted enough *

im trying to study a mullins from memory, how it went?

>>1890540
what programm are you using there ?

>>1890571
he's in photoshop in that screenshot but he made the model in google sketchup

>>1890567
Bad. You clearly don't know what you're doing.

>>1890584
eyes are long, but it's still pretty, cant give any constructive crit just wanted to say its pretty

>>1890584

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>>1890598
Cheesus, why do you have to yell?

>>1890572
thanks mate

>>1890360
Are you mocking my awesome finnish heritage? cheers for the input, the face needs more work, but if i wanted kawaii, I wouldve painted kawaii.

Last update for tonight, kinda tired.

>>1890567
needs more robertson

>>1890639
actually try standing in that exact position and feel how awkward it is, aside from that, great work keep it up.

help, i don't know what to do. im trying to think about planes and contrast and proportions, but I feel like I'm not making any progress.

>>1890639
This looks so great but the eye shadow and nose piercing brought it down for me, personally.

>>1890639
>femmerc_wip.jpg

Alright, beginner question here. How many of you use perspective lines before you start each drawing? Is this something every good artist does when they are constructing a rough for a drawing, even of a single character? Should I use this as I'm just starting out, and I want to draw humans, but I want them to be correctly in space and not completely flat or off. Is it just better to guess with perspective and foreshortening or how does that work?

>>1890639
I commented already but to add something useful, I think her left toe could be pointed outward a bit more. Then I think the pose would look a bit more natural. Still looks good, I just think that's an adjustment that could help a little.

>>1890719
>>1890723
>>1890743

I finally get it.

I've been doing art for 20 years.

>>1890740
no

you have it all wrong

you learn perspective until it is ingrained in your head

until it becomes second nature

that's when whatever you draw will naturally be in perspective

do not draw humans when starting out

stick to perspective with simple shapes

until you completely internalize it

Good Luck!

>>1890606
not him but curious, do you actually read things in caps as yelling in your head voice? I always just considered it an ugly alternative for bold or italics.

>>1890820
i think most people read all caps as a form of yelling

maybe you are a special snowflake :)

>>1890746
Sorry, didn't mean to be overkill, since 2 of those were mine. I know that can get annoying.

>>1890639

This shows you can't think in 3d.

>>1890871
This kills the man

>>1890639
As a Finngolian myself I'm of course free to insult our puny race.

Hi, guys. Critique?

Not sure if brain, or just sleepy

>>1890639
This just went from Chinese to a dirty mix blood feminist. I very much prefer the before, even if it looks more Chinese than Japanese.

>>1890918
If this is a painting with pastel colors, it will sell like hotcakes.

>>1890529
done
You m-may k-kill it but it's the best thing I've ever done so ehh be gentle =X

done in acrylics

>>1890979
Fan of Philip Guston?

>>1890983
i like him

some two-dimensional beings

other than the obvious anatomical errors can anyone send me on the right path with some hard critique. Need to understand my errors so i can work on them next time

tried to be economical, looks terribly dirty though

>>1890994
It would look better if you painted it traditionally

>>1890999
>eyes glow
thats fine
>negative space out the ass
>body is reflecting although no light source is shown except the eyes
>a glow from that angle wouldnt do anything to his lower parts

Conclusion:
Have a understandable light source

>>1891006

Thaks, I'm a retard, I edited the hue/saturation, balance and contrast completely butchering the light source which was coming from the bottom. I'll try to fix it by tomorrow.

Again, thanks for the advice anon.

>>1890968
The hand on the butt of the blade is wonky. It doesnt look like shes really gripping it. Swords are heavy, and if she doesnt grip it, a good amount of flesh is gone from her leg.

If her right leg [from her prospective] is facing out like that, the whole body would be slanted to support her center of gravity, this case being her hips. Consequently, her blade would have to touch the ground.

I assume she is wearing a bra.

Also, why are the fibers on the outskirts of the clothes so scribbly? Some of them do scribble, but I dont know.

from imaginationn

>>1891057

i think its great. form of the legs could flow a bit more aesthetically but theres still alot of dynamic movement and shit. and good proportions.

>>1888422
Tattoo artists are shown all sorts of retarded reference pics on a daily basis, they won't laugh at you for it because that's unprofessional and they know they will lose a lot of work with that kind of attitude.
There are a lot of things to consider regarding tattoo design. They should flow with the area of the body they will placed on, with the focal points visible from a single angle. They also need extra contrast compared to a drawing on paper as the skin will age and take some sun damage. Also, details for ants, such as the little pocketwatch thing are too small for tattooing and will become a blurry mess as the piece ages.
Not trying to be mean here, just recommending that you leave tattoo designing to the professional artists that deal with this medium, and it's many constraints, on a regular basis.

>>1888422
People who wants to tattoo stupid shit on their own body? Turns out to be stupid and ugly? Well, I'll say it's pretty awesome.

>>1891067
Ty! Legs definitely a big weakness of mine

>>1890379
>>1890228

Thanks for the advice

Better?

If for some reason I still can't grasp it, please let me know and be more specific (Sorry about that), the gaze thing was really hard to fix or at least try to fix. I also took the time to mend the rest fo her anatomy a bit and add some nuances to the face.

>>1891091
:/
i love the OP version. the tits in your newest one look like they're being held up by an invisible force. and what happened to the wad of hair in the back? it filled in an empty space which is now there. :(

I feel like critiques here often do more harm than they do good.

>>1891091

Man the style you go for is really strange. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. A lot of stuff just turns out becoming super disproportionate and cartoonish. Hope to see you go back to some more realistic stuff Firez, No hate, just trying to understand your choices. Keep up the posting/work though bro.

>>1891091
ftfy.

her breasts were too full looking for how small they were. Like they were meant to be twice that size but you made them small. They had too much weight for someone so young and thin also.

be careful about overworking things, i notice that problem in a lot of your stuff.

>>1891101
here this illustrates my point without just telling you its wrong.

this is how big they SHOULD be with that much weight and fullness

>>1891101
same guy. theres a nice drawing in there once you get the proportions right

Blind guy #1: go here
Blind guy #2: ok

>>1891091
The corner of the jaw should line up with the mouthline when viewed from the front. In yours we're seeing the underside of the head, so the corner of the jaw should be lower than the mouthline, but instead you've made it much higher than the mouthline.

The OP version was better in many respects. The mouth had more personality, the jaw wasn't as bad, and the eyes weren't as uncanny as they are right now.

I honestly feel like the same hairdo you keep painting is giving you issues. It's harder to get a good grasp on the whole head, to place the ear in the right spot, and to keep the perspective consistent. Try starting your head constructions with a box in perspective, then slowly carve away the head keeping that perspective consistent. Focus on major forms and major planes, working your way to an asaro head-looking planar model. When you have that and it works, add in things like hair, irises, anatomical subtleties, etc.

As it stands, I feel like you're hindering yourself with your current method of doing things. Instead of doing a meticulous construction, getting the drawing correct, then recovering the drawing during your painting, your approach feels rushed. It looks like you find the painting and rendering to be the fun part and that you're eager to jump right into it. Quick sketch, quick tweaks, then render. You then spend the bulk of your time noodling around and guessing until things look right. It feels like you happen to stumble into a state that works, instead of having a plan and executing it methodically. I honestly believe you'll learn a lot more if you aim to get each step correct before moving on (especially the drawing), instead of constantly trying to salvage things because you already invested time towards painting them.

Yep, the eyes. Go back and unfuck the eyes, please. Before anything else.

>>1891109
>>1891112
guy that fixed the boobs here. i like the face.

only problem i see is that the eyes look a little bit different distancewise from the nose. the nose should probably be facing more towards the camera, and positioned a little to the right.

thats more a drawing problem though, id move on to the next piece and stop fiddling with this one so much.

I'm trying to make this wallpaper.
While it's still in the sketch phase, could I get some feedback on the potential composition I've set up and general improvements?
Also should I include all the new FNAF bots or just go with the original ones? I can't decide.
Thanks in advance!

Ok guys, thanks once again

This is as far as I can go for now, I will try to put more of your advice in the next iteration.

As for /ic/ critique, in general terms I would say it has helped me. There are times that I do ponder about the validity of some of the advice given to me and others but as some of you have already experienced coming up with good critique in other communities or irl is incredibly hard.

I know I have issues with my current workflow, knowledge of fundamentals, etc... (I'm working on that).

It's just that I can't leave a piece without knowing I did what i could with it. Besides tehmeh/Robert Henri said something about sticking to an idea and treat drawing as a problem that has a solution in order to learn more and better so I try to do that, it is not like I throw strokes at random hoping to create a happy accidents everywhere.

Sorry if my redaction has errors, it's almost 3:00 am here.

See ya later.

4 days of 'progress'. Truly unbelievable.

>>1891091

>>1891101
>>1891104
>>1891126
>>1891129

>>1890871
This.
No perspective on the character, makes her look flat. and ur doing a lot of guessing
Perspective is a tool, learn to use it.
pic related, maybe not best method but this is how i use it...

>>1890674
yeah the pose could use more tweaking
>>1890719
>>1890953
took away the piercing, but im still keeping the eye shadows
>>1890743
fair nuff, plus, i wasnt being serious
Gotcha
>>1890871
>>1891149
Youre right, ive always struggled with it. This one started as quick lunchtime sketch and I just went full steam with it, was a bad move. For the next character Ill be more mindful of perspective.

Thanks yall, gave her more shape with shadows and more tweaking all around, still lots to do.

>>1891165
My two tips.
Quit it with the boring poses.
Never give your character a gun in one hand and a sword in the other. It's bad form, overkill, redundant, etc. Holster the gun, have her in a dynamic pose with just the sword, and your image is already 100x better.

>>1891167
Also her arms are a tad short, not sure if anyone mentioned that.

>>1891123
I tried pushing the pose and expression a bit more, could still use overall feedback though.
>>1891165
>but im still keeping the eye shadows
Still looks really nice, but it's not the fact that you gave her eye shadow, it's just that it doesn't quite match imo. She looks pretty dignified, and I feel like she'd be wearing subtler makeup than that. This looks like what you'd see in a fashion mag or on a girl at a club, not so much a day to day I want to look nice at work kind of makeup. But, it's a totally subjective nitpick.

I-...Is my perspective ok? I just tried eyeballing it but I don't know if I practiced "formally" with a grid enough to really see in 3D properly yet.

(don't look at the wheels)

>>1891149
How do you choose where the perspective lines are when the vanishing point is way off the canvas? I've seen people draw seemingly random lines and make the character based on them. Is it just wherever you want them, and just make them parallel with a little slope so they meet up eventually off the canvas, or what? I don't want to do the whole vanishing point thing, just add some quick perspective lines to make a quick sketch out of.

>>1891180
I just put the persective the way i'd best match my sketch. then fix the perspective in sketch and draw ontop.

You could just draw random lines, as long as both vanishing points are on the same horizon.
not allways as accurate tho.

i use this circle thingy.just make sure the horizon line is consistent. add a third one on the bottom or top for 3 point.

>>1891177

yeah

>>1891167
True, then again, this is for my concept art section of portfolio, the intention was not to make anything dynamic, just to showcase the design more than anything. But yeah, more of a dynamic pose couldve served better and youre right about the gun in the other hand, I just wanted to design it without making a separate picture just for that.
>>1891175
You got a point, ill reduce the intensity of makeup.

>>1891187
Thanks buddy.

I've never been on this board before. Is it considered bad manners for me to ask for someone to draw something for me?

>>1891198
Not if you pay them.

>>1891198
Yes. It's a "give a man a fish/teach a man to fish" thing. Nobody rides for free here at /ic/.

>>1891200
>>1891203
I understand. Im glad I asked before assuming.

>>1890379
Yes jlaw

long time artist, first time poster. trying to move away from anime stuff to develop a more realistic style.

A lot of times it seems like nobody wants to give feedback until a picture is nearly finished, but I think it's more useful to give feedback in the early stages. I know personally once I've started rendering and stuff I really don't want to make changes.

>>1891241
be the change you want others to be

>>1891252
Alright. When I get up tomorrow I'll comb through the thread and look for some early stage stuff to comment on.

>>1891241
its prolly cus sketches or unfinished stuff can easily be abandoned, or might even be the "finish" for the artist. a full render gives the feel of a more serious look on art. and will encourage others to take the artist more seriously. and critique the piece.

>>1891226
you're making the right decision. :)

>>1891318
fuck you

>>1891381
Hes right tho

>>1891381
dude if you keep drawing anime your whole life you are going to get nowhere

>>1891022
scribbles are lazy =X
But I see what you mean about holding the blade and gravity, this is something I didnt pay attention to yet, about the bra part, that's up for your own imagination
Thanks for the cit

Spent far too long on this. Critique please? Dun be gentle

>>1891022
>Swords are heavy
swords are not heavy, a one handed sword is about 1.5-2 kilos

>>1891285
Well even if the piece is abandoned does that mean the artist can't learn from it? Like for instance I posted that drawing of Sol Badguy before and there was a lot wrong with it so I restarted it and did better. And even that one had its problems, and while I didn't apply all the critique I got for the second one to the picture itself, I did learn that I should go brush up on arm anatomy and that I should push my poses and compositions. I mean imagine if you went to a life drawing class and you never did any gestures or quick studies, only hour long studies. How would your teacher catch and break you of bad habits? I would hope people aren't withholding feedback because they want to make sure it only goes into making a finished piece, no studies or sketches allowed. I get it about taking the artist seriously, but you've only lost a few minutes of time if they don't go back to it, and maybe the advice would help someone else.

>>1889212
Looking good, I think her right eye (left side of pic) is a bit too far to the outside of her face, her nose seems turned up just a bit too much. I think her right shoulder should be out and away from her body a bit more. Lastly, the outstretched leg looks like it's hoovering in the air. I think maybe you should shorten the back leg, and elongate the front one below the knee just slightly. Also have the shadow touch the toes.

>>1889547
The eyes are too big and the eyelids don't look like they're wrapping around sphere shaped eyeballs, they appear to be stretching flat across her face. Look at some real eyes and try to see how the eyelids look like they're wrapping around something. The bridge of the nose is fine but the nostrils and that part where it meets the upper lip in the center need to be pulled to the left, right now it looks like her cheeks are pushing her nose forward. The mouth should also be realigned slightly more to the left along with the nose. You'll probably have to realign the jaw to match, as well. Otherwise, nice.

>>1889899
Study heads. The body seems to be pretty much fine, the head has no solid construction to it.
>>1890027
He can look intimidating in that pose if you exaggerate the anatomy, pose, and composition. Have him really hunched over, with big shoulders, his face close to the viewer, his arms pulled way back. You could also back-light it with some orange or green to add some mood.
>>1890717
Top half of the face is ok mostly, eye on the left could use a lil more definition at the top of the cheekbone/bottom of the eye, the mouth is too far to the right and looks a bit scrunched up/too small. The jaw should also go a bit more to the left.
>>1890916
Looks great, I think eye on left might be a bit too far to the left but I'm not 100% sure.

And that's all the unfinished pieces I thought I could actually help with and didn't already have crits.

>>1891423
this pleases my eyes.

>>1891381
wtf.. where did that come from. lol

>>1891423
pretty eery. i love it, don't have critique though.

>>1891387
FUCK YOU TOO YOU SHITTY ARTIST

>>1891480
You are talking bout them pussy ass swords that cant cut through leather.
Real G's use heavy swords and fuck bustas up

>>1891601
Do you want me to suck your cock, or will you calm down by yourself?

>>1891226
>long time
You spent a long time in the labyrinth.

>>1891275
Looks like a silent hill monster.

Face turned out masculine - . -

>>1891669
Claymores are 2.2-2.5kg

>>1891669
Claymores and Zweihänders are about 2-2.5 kg, cant get much bigger swords than that unless its from your chinese cartoons

>>1891423
I like it. What am I supposed to have my attention drawn to?

>>1892245
Viewer is supposed to be drawn to the monsters above, though you make a point; they dont stand out a lot.
I'm supposed to be drawn better, heu.