/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

self portrait

>>1881949
Wow I didnt know blacks used 4chan

>>1881959
I just lurk mostly, every once in a while I drop something in the draw thread.

>>1881959
>OMG someone different than me
Women and Asians use this site too. And exist in the real world. Amazing, right?

>>1881967
If you can't ignore people like the guy you're responding to then you don't need to be on 4chan.

This is the internet, nigger. Can't afford to be touchy here.

>>1881989

When you realize 4chan consists of mostly Mexicans, blacks, Indians, any anyone not white from America is the day you will stop feeling like you are in good company. What seems to be not true is usually the truth.

>>1881989
>2meta4me

>>1881949
Construction is nice, colors look very saturated.

>>1882075

Why are you posting someones else work? Does it actually makes you feel better?

>>1882092
Fucking newfags

>>1882094

Are you proud for being on 4chan for years, every day, replying others and not drawing at all?
That must feel bad

>>1882103
youre a newfag if you dont know him

>>1882104

I know he posted time ago 3 or 4 illustrations (the ones that were only this month put on tumblr) but that guy (you?) Is not him

>>1882108
its a nice design though, why be buttmad about it anon

>>1882119

It is. I like his work - design and rendering. But why posted someones else work?

Do you wan this thread to become "post design that you like"?

>>1882108
it's him though, retard.
he made a tumblr where you can see work that he hasnt posted on /ic/ before.

http://saarunice.tumblr.com/

the tumblr is still missing some of the work i have seen on /ic/.

>>1882126

Nope, it's not him.
sorry for dissapointing yoh

>>1881942

>>1882142
the wing-thing looks terribly - I hate those joints in the middle.
And his face looks gay.

>>1882075
Anyone got any reference on how to make this kind of anatomization? What are some old masters who did it?

>>1882126
It's tumblr link you fuckign retard, why would he upload the image to tumblr then download it to post here?

>>1882167
>anatomization

What now?

Screen cap study from http://www.cinemasquid.com/screenshots/sets/barry-lyndon/c09b5915-3aef-45f5-ad8b-283659e2e0b6#screenshots


Lot of good natural lighting/temperature caps to study from.

>>1882192
That's a good study mate
thanks for posting the refrence link

>>1882192

gorgeous. bonus points for using basic brush

>>1882170
implying people act rationally.
also he may have posted it from his school/work computer where he doesnt have access to the original files.
it makes no difference. i cant prove it's him and you cant prove it's not him. just critique the picture or don't.

i drew this ugly ginger on sai, pls r8

>>1882257
shit

>>1882257

pretty cool anon.

>>1882192
That's a solid study but your perspective is all over the place

>>1882157
Thanks for the help. I'll use bats as a ref.

>>1882257
not using krita/10

thoughts?

>>1882257
pls be in London

>>1882280

Critique welcome.


My friend said" you cant draw in realistic style. You only know moe style with shitty animation coloring.

Thats my response

>>1882304
Sorry but your friend is right.

>>1882304
Study edges, and the way some are sharper than others; you're using too many hard edges, which is an animation shortcut

>>1882304

incredibly muddy

>>1882308
I am not sure for that.........
I want to have a more texture feeling, like the concept artist style stuff. I know lacking mid tone is always a problem for me...........

>>1882309
Not familiar with grey scale coloring.
Maybe my grey scale is to dark?

>>1882304
your friend is right

>>1882304
>>1882305
>>1882308
>>1882309
>>1882314
>>1882316
Do you even photobash

>>1882323
post your work fgt.

>>1882304
>>1882323
>>1882325
had to do it man :^)
but yeah your friend is right

>>1882337
i think 1882314 is intentionally to draw a weird face on the ball.
It seems like a style from certain old manga

>>1882354
>the ball
That's clearly kirby

>>1882075
boring, typical "sci-fi"

>>1882369

Pointles, tipical /ic argument.
you are your worst enemy, keep that in mind when you will talk to doc

>>1881567
Im gonna go with the massive appeal with my more subtle 3p perspective, somehow it just feels more correct for the intended final goal.
im just gonna make it massive with some details in frontground repeating in middleground and background

also thanks for this >>1880873
advice dude, pushed the reds and oranges and it did work, will post results shortly

>>1882369
>>1882092
:>)

>>1882396
higher res

<----Should I go sleep or keep trying?
>fourth sketch attempt

>>1882401
Ay shit brah, I've always wondered; are you self taught or did you attend some kind of atelier/school/classes?

Also, what are some of your artistic influences? The kind of artists you like and shit.

>>1882280
As anon suggested you could work on the perspective >>1882300. In addition I did some changes on the shading as they were to light in areas the aren't directly lit by the sun and i changed the sky to a more redish dark color as thats often the color that manifests at sunsets and sunrises.

why does this just look not quite right to me?

>>1882401
I don't understand what it is

This started out as a joke (with the weird colours), but I ended up liking the result.

goddamn doors

>>1882455
That's a really tiny door. If the women there almost hit their head on the top when going through, then a man definitely would. Also the shadow seems a bit heavy and dark, and too warm. I presume you are using that one sargent image as reference, take note that he has some subtle blues and purples in it.

>>1882459
Fuck, I dind't even notice the door being so tiny. Also, I know wich sargent your image you're talking about although I didn't use it as reference.

>>1882401
Looks sick, who are your influences? Who'd you study?

studying Sargent in ink is kinda missing the point, really

not finished

>>1882587
>>1882587
so.. are you like the new chunbum park?

>>1882664
start again, face is un-salvageable

>>1882720
no, no he is better

>>1882721
Point out the flaws
I want to see if they match up with what I see

>>1882401
The head is too flat and it needs more definition. But I'm really a sucker for your style most of the time.
How much time do you spend on your pieces?

rough fucken anatomy man fucken anatomy

a bit late to the party, attack on titan fan fart

just whipped this up trying to into dramatic lighting.

selfcrit: rocks work great, the dude is terrible. comp works imo, but feels a bit too staged.

>>1882167
not everything should be learned from the old masters...The look you're reffering to is mostly chinese/asian looking.also anatomization is not a word

>>1882404

fuck man, add some value to your shit. As in, emotional value, make that nigga icarus flying into the sun.

>>1882404

fuck man, add some value to your shit. As in, emotional value, make that nigga icarus flying into the sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnLIN6XMEY

i know i darkened in the area around the mouth too much i dont have anatomy/shadowing down

>>1882794
also i know didnt bother to fix the midget ear

>>1882763
Foliage is too high contrast. Couldn't even tell what I was looking at an the thumbnail. Do a better job of massing your value groups and try to keep the values used in each group relatively confined so that they don't encroach on the value space of surrounding groups.

I wanted to give this one another try.

>>1882880
Make some hard edges for once.

Model sheet I'm working on, gonna be making a 3d animation

Shitty mobile photo, gonna scan it when I get home

>>1882921

>>1882923

I like your style. I don't know, it looks familiar to me,

>>1882420
You've probably been staring at it too long because it looks fine to me.

>>1882920
I hear ya, thanks. I also got eye fatigue really fast in this session so I just became aware of other fuck ups. *sigh*

>>1882749
flaws:
the mouth nose and eyes are all on different opposing planes in your picture.
the values are off in every way possible.
tone is seen in hair, but no-where else.
boring central composition.

you are doing the starters mistake of pouring much time and effort into one piece. dont do this.
100 figure and face studys could be done with the same ammount of time and would far benefit you more.

>>1882937
thanks anon

>>1882768
It kinda is in my language, but thanks; that's really good, exactly what i was talking about; i do assume that they've developed that style based on some old masters of their own, tho?

I'm spending too much time on this.

question: should i make the foreground stairs and shelves in stone connect with the middleground tower? ( connecting their values as im sort of doing it already )

or should i entirely separate the frontground and the middle tower?

>>1882664
Are you drawing the poster child of thirdwave feminism?

waifuuuu~

>>1883018
that's nice
how long you've been doing art?

>>1883028
not long enough and not strong enough.
2 years of actual effort.

okay, I quickly layed down some ideas for a short & silly comic. please tell me what you think. (I didn't bother with the page layout yet)

>>1883034
more pigeons

>>1883034
Its little to judge, but i enyojed it. the pigeons are rad imo.

>>1883037
hm thanks, but I can only guess what you mean by 'judge' (english's not my mothertongue)

>>1881989
damn better listen to this guy, his sounds like a rad bad dude that doesn't follow the rules of society, too cool for school indeed.

>>1882768
>anatomization is not a word
it is, but it doesn't mean what he thought it meant.

>>1882257
same old brushes same old neet

Still life is hard

>>1883101
still life is good

>>1883109
still life is life

>>1883112
Na naa na na na

Study after 4 months not being able to draw.

*/ic/ positivity crew*

>>1883035

cute as funk

>>1883101

props for effort. take more time. i bet there's plenty of subtle stuff going on that you missed.

>>1883131

looks great though

>>1883134

if it were moderately cleaner it would be awesome

>>1883136
I will consider it for the next time, just get to lazy to polish. And to tell the truth feel uncertain in smoothing out dem brush strokes and establishing edges. Matter of practise I guess.

>>1882987
no,they've developed it based on what was popular ad appealing.probably Western superhero comics because believe it or not asians are as into western comics as western weebs are into manga.

>>1882401
I know you're 'le mysterious artist man' but you could please answer these questions.


>>1882416
>>1882594
I'm equally interested.

Rendering technique of no technique. Is this any good?

>>1883026
are limbs so thin on purpose? you need to work on your anatomy overall
also you know it
>furry

>>1883178

yeah looks pretty sick, I dont know if I'm liking or not liking the texture marks on the collar though

>>1882416
I did attend academy, but it did little for my development.

>>1882423
its a hippo plush mask wearing dynamite throwing maniac (spooky)

>>1882594
>>1882416
>Also, what are some of your artistic influences? The kind of artists you like and shit.

Marko, Wes, Craig, Sargent, Leyendecker, Repin, respectively.

>>1883210
Yeah, I threw it in just for the fun when I was drawing, but I agree it's pretty out of place

>wtf is going on there

i have no idea. but i like the surfaces and forms. even if they don't result in any kind of pleasant composition.

does anyone know any good character designs tutorials?
besides marko and jason

>>1883303
Anthony Jhones

life drawing 1/2

>>1883323
2/2

>>1883303
The Skillful Huntsman is a useful read.

>>1883101
Look pretty good, but the shapes and edges are all very sloppy. Take more care when putting down your strokes and shapes.

How about mine? :X :D

>>1883325
>Skillful Huntsman

not that anon but i have problems with design too. I've checked Skillful Huntsman and it looks awesome. Is there any free pdf online?

could I get some constructive criticism on this painting please?

>>1882401
i think you can push the values further, looks a little flat.
also r8 my self portrait.

Color experiment.

>>1883336
You have a doll face

>>1883341
in the sense that theres no texture? i see, maybe i overused the gradient tool, i guess i dont have much confidence in brushstrokes...

>>1883336
Looks too flat. Also some edges are too hard, some too soft, consider what edges should be what.

Where's that anon who was working on that Akira painting, I want to see the finished product.
>>1883333
I really like the composition and overall I like the colors but the browns seem a little muddy to me. I think I would've used a red or green, but I'm really not experienced with color.

>>1883354
thanks for the feedback anon
>>1883336
all this needs is some rougher/more uneven texture on the skin itself I think

>>1883338
to experiment you should gain experience

if not that you should gain it through experience

in your experiment nothing like that is happening

>>1883352
im kind of ignorant when it comes to painting, can you be more specific on the edges advice?
>>1883361
thanks man, i guess i should man up and actually use the brushes.

>>1882923
which front view should I use?

dumping

>>1883423
more

>>1883424
another one

>>1883425
last one

some work from the hangout

>>1883322
i thought he was more of a creature designer. may check him out
>>1883325
i have read that one and while is cool to read and whatnot, i didnt find it much helpful
im looking for gumroad ones, but they are mostly for enviroments

Cleaned up a smidgen

>>1883536
Are you working on Monster Anthology?

>>1883034
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIOIDvuIpcA
have you seen this?

>>1883615
I don't particularly like your pieces, but once in a while you really do deliver something interesting. Good work.

>>1883637
need to pop out a bit more

>>1883622
No, just making an animation for school, gonna model this later.

>>1883679
Yeah, apparently I also need to recalibrate my tablet PC for like the millionth time. This is way darker than it appeared on my screen (on my.phone now).

>>1883636
thank you anon

Alright /ic/ I'm working on this and it just isn't going well. How do people do these awesome digital sketches, damn it? I couldn't find an example of what I'm talking about but, the kind of digital sketching
concept artists do and stuff, like >>1881942 and >>1882075, do I just start rendering off the bat and build the figure up or start with a loose line sketch, or a tight line sketch or just..why can't I do this?

Pen, watercolour, charcoal and pencil

45 minute model

>>1882786
It would be nice if everyone started critiquing with music.

>>1883808

1. GOOD AT DRAWING
2. GOOD AT VALUES/COLOR
3. GOOD AT RENDERING

learn anatomy, get really good at it, before you even consider making polished pieces of art.

once good, learn lighting, values and color theory in art.

once good, learn how to render and polish paintings.

You're done!

you can't sketch if you dont have the time, likewise you wont be able to make a decent looking value painting if your sketch is shit, likewise you cant render and polish if your values suck neckdicks.

Not everything is bad on your image, learn the planes of the face, it correlates to animu too. Learn anatomy, ALWAYS use reference images, increase your perception of reality. What are you drawing, if you are observing, are you really drawing that thing, or are you fucking it up but not realising. That's the difference between a good artist and bad artist. Being able to see your faults and work on them.

>>1883333
I'm assuming this is acryllic due to the watery like dripping on the bottom.
Overall its pretty good/alright. The use of colors works well with the highly saturated blues and oranges on the zebras. I'd personally push back the background with more grey (currently I think the slightly saturated green takes away from the zebras) or even imply a horizon line.
The painting skills are pretty solid with the heads of each zebra (not perfect, but still works nicely); but it definately seems you got overwhelmed with their bodies and rushed through it, creating poor and unconfident strokes(especially with the right zebra's ass).
I want to see bolder and more strong strokes near the bottom the painting. I think you shouls go over with your browns and orange tones first, then overlay those dark blue stripes to avoid the shakey and inconsistent marks between the blue stripes.

Best wishes and happy painting!

>>1883825
See, I feel like I'm pretty good at all of that, when it comes to drawing in pencil. But when I go to try and draw digitally it falls apart. It takes me a really really long time to get something decent looking, and I want to be able to just sketch digitally.

>>1883808
>>1883808
just try them all and do it however you feel like bro

>>1883837

you need time to adjust, draw daily, 1-2 hours atleast bare minimum, im clocking in 5 hours now just barely. You will eventually gain a preferred method at drawing. Also One more thing, pic related. Fix your DAMN brush settings if you haven't already!

ps- you still need to get better at anatomy, upload a pencil sketch, so I can determine whether you need to get better at anatomy or not, but judging by the arm you definitely need to spend more time on it.

>>1883840
What do you usually do?

>>1883824
>824▶
>File: 08112014 - cats imagination 1h.jpg (123 KB, 1000x832)
>>>1882786
>It would be nice if everyone started critiquing with music.

wouldn't be helpful though, but yeah listening to new music is always great !

>>1883454

oh god i remember this

also, a really good artist to check out is yang qi

>>1883848
I draw all day, every day. I mean I realize I need to get better at anatomy, but I don't think I'm so bad I can't start working seriously on this whole digital thing while I brush up on that. I'm better at drawing normal people, I have a hard time exaggerating anatomy. To save time on debating whether I know how to create form and lighting too, here's something I drew in pencil that I painted over digitally, posted it before but whatever. Here's a link to another pencil with digital, with normal people so you can see how I am with that, if it'll help http://darke-imp.tumblr.com/image/101182082493
Also I have CS2 so, it doesn't have whatever that button was you referred to.
Geez though, this really sucks. I'm so bad at drawing things purely digital that I'm getting told to go back to bare bones basics. fml

cratack plass :)

>>1883858
youre not as bad. youre mediocre and uninteresting as of now, but youre not bad, dont worry.

take that anon very lightweighted, its one of those pserudo-elitist spergouts. you dont need to draw everyday, you just need to draw as much as its necessary for you to learn. in fact, many times you improve a lot is when you do not draw for a certain time, but you travel (for example). i mean that anon has some points but you dont need to spent 1/2 bare minimum on your works, that some bullshit. in fact, get days off, weeks off, think about how you paint and go visit some galleries or somehing.

>>1883862
>mediocre and uninteresting
Ow.
That's okay though, I know it's only because I'm still figuring out the whole digital thing, once I get more comfortable with it, I can make more exciting pieces, like I have with pencil.
Anyway, like I said I do draw everyday anyway, it's all I do, and it's all I care about doing, really, so I don't mind that but it sucks to draw something so bad that someone thinks I'm barely starting out just because I'm using a different medium. That shouldn't be the case.
This is so frustrating though.
I guess all I can do is suffer with it until I get used to it, but I really would like to know how those kinds of drawings are structured. Maybe I'll look for some of those time lapse videos.

emu

>>1882257
>i drew this ugly ginger on sai
kekked
Why does your lineart colour change?

>>1883868
>I guess all I can do is suffer with it until I get used to it
thats what all of us do, you aint special honey.
also went through your tumblr, what honestly seems to be the problem is overall conceptual creativity.
and for chrissake, dont get influenced by the radical autists of /ic/. dont have precise schedules if you dont enjoy them, dont do photostudies and bullshit like that if you dont want to. paint and draw from head, and try to convey new concepts. try and think of your painting as someone elses and consider if youd find it interesting.

>>1883882
makes it easier to differ between those parts

>>1883885
Yeah the whole reason I'm trying to learn digital sketching is so I could try my hand at concept art, but I have to be able to do the drawing part before the inventing part. I think I will start doing more studies though, especially anatomy, I think I've been drawing from my head too much for too long, actually, and I'm hoping bringing some real world influence in will help me start inventing things. Thanks for the help, and don't worry, my work schedule has nothing to do with /ic/, I've been doing that since before I started coming here anyway.

>>1881942
Where's the lighting come from on this Sargent sketch? Or is it not a single lightsource?

Looking at the arms it seems to come from above but I don't understand the legs.

>>1883889
>more studies though, especially anatomy
but why
honestly your issue seems to be primarily the inventing part, even though your anatomy is shit

you should iplement studies while drawing from head. painting from imagination is unchallengable

>>1883892
>even though your anatomy is shit
Okay, I know there's room for improvement but I think that's an exaggeration.
Anyway, I'd rather get better with it before I start trying to break rules and invent things, it'd just make me feel more comfortable. I'll get around to inventing soon enough.

>>1883890
There's two, one from ypper right and one from upper left. You can tell the upper right one easily as his right arm casts a shadow across his back.

>>1883896
You get good at what you practice, so if you want to invent stuff you should start practicing that. At the same time it can be very difficult to create something without input, so studying lots of different things is a good idea.

As for the digital part, I'd say you're on the right track with looking up other artists' videos to see how they do it. Doesn't mean you have to do it the same way, but try out different techniques and find out what works for you.

>>1883908
Cool, I'll put in my due diligence and get around to inventing sooner rather than later. I've already started doing some design sketches in pencil for things I want to try to render out digitally. Thanks again for the help, for now I'm gonna go get some sleep~

did these yesterday at life drawing, they looked fine on a large scale, but when I looked back at them on a small screen from the photos I took, they looked awful. anyone know why this is, anyone got tips on drawing large scale?

>>1883808
'concept artist sketching' isn't some magic trick that negates the need for skill and knowledge of the fundamentals. Just like anything else you need to be skilled, develop a good workflow (some people black out with paint, some start with detailed linework)

i never posted this
shh

>>1883848
terrible brush settings

>>1882434

Do you have a 1080p version maybe anon?

>>1883961

They feel amazing to me. To each their own I guess.

>>1883966
post youre art

>>1883968

I'd rather not

ill stop posting sorry

>>1883970
how can you give any advice then

>>1883975

I'm not. I just said they feel amazing to me.

>>1883626
no I haven't, but it looks great, thanks for pointing it out to me

from yesterday

>>1883822
does the model hate you?

>>1883536
pretty unrealistic tits

How's the composition/anatomy/perspective/etc. on this?

It's for a contest to draw a "legendary samurai." I worry she's not legendary enough. Any suggestions?

>>1883901
Thanks <3

>>1884025
>legendary samurai
>grill

>>1884031
fight the patriarchy!

>>1883921

>>1883890
this is a picture of a man's bum
which is very gay
stop it

>>1883861

Please tell me te truth. It shall set me free

>>1883536
With posture like that, she'd fall over
Upper body needs to lean back more

>>1884090
The other side is even gayer.

>>1884090
You just have to ask if you want to see more

>>1884147
Mmmm.

>>1884025
The perspective causes the focal point of the composition to be out the gate. If you don't want that, then curve the path a little and add things that direct the viewer to your legendary samurai.

>>1884147

nice squat gains

crits/comments please.

crits/comments please

>>1884025
doesn't even look like a samurai

>>1883808
Maybe this will help you build values:
>>1876876

>>1884209
Thanks, saved

Did this drawing of medieval Wolverine so I could work on 1) blocking in shapes when starting a painting and 2) get a basic idea of how light reflects off of metal armor.

Any crit would be really appreciated.

>>1882304
Hard edge where his left (our right) hand meets the body should be fixed.

like it otherwise

>>1884260

>>1883822
tempted to save just for use as a reaction pic.

This WIP is complete shit.

Aside from being "typical edgy teenage bullshit art," what's everything I need to fix?

Well actually, it's done in pen so I can't fix anything, but what should I change for next time?

>>1884265
stop posting his pictures

>>1883131
Fuck you and everyone who does that qualification bullshit, for fuck sake shut the fuck up you dirty nigger cunt - just post the fucking study without your fucking meaningless drivel

speedp

I'm really bad at perspective... can you guys help me out? some red lines? anything? what do I do?

Going to respond to everything that hasn't gotten a response since I haven't.
>>1882008
good thumbnail, mspaint quality is bad as expected
>>1882009
dark circles under the eyes are confusing, as they might just be shadows. but they're too hard to be shadows. Also, see through collar.
>>1882229
okay, although the outline on left isn't really a value study.
>>1882365
Muddy around the neck and hands. Metal isn't shiny enough or very metallic looking. Weapon is literally a dry erase marker scribble.
>>1882394
good thumbnail. again.
>>1882418
why is there reflected light on the bottom of the bag when the cobblestone clearly isn't reflected? Boat also needs to be immersed in the water.
>>1882759
Head seems dented in around the parietal lobe area.
>>1882896
as above wit hmspaint
>>1883058
I actually like this one. Upper right is dead compositionally.
>>1883288
Top right looks like a woman with spindly worm arms picking up a shopping bag
>>1883324
person in front has a pointy butt. What.
>>1883330
yay you can trace optical illusion books
>>1883411
I prefer the first view to the fourth.
>>1883426
I really like this style for some reason.
>>1883790
>>1883802
Kind of like. You should start a comic.
>>1883871
shit
>>1883916
on the left, the stomach and lower half is too thick compared to the upper half. It's like you did the drawing in two halves with the arms separating.
>>1883956
I find this strangely interesting. Work on the shoulders of the 3rd and 4th arms.
>>1883971
okay
>>1884021
Thumb looks like a folded flat piece of paper, mainly due to the nail.
>>1884035
Needs to be a .gif almost.
>>1884071
Cute, although pigeons don't have a lumpy black steel pipe texture.
>>1884079
Shape of eyes in kind of weird and lumpy. Eyelids are inconsistent.
>>1884097
Missing top half of head?
>>1884134
I like it. Needs a background, the white is stronger than the picture.
>>1884174
What is this supposed to be?
>>1884224
those claws, man
>>1884273
>>1884298
Love the tiny dots/lines.

>>1884304
Picture is horrifically unclear, so I can't tell.

I can't help with persepctive with a floating object with no scene. We need a scene. Just draw a box in perspective and draw your stuff inside the box.

>>1884303
I have no idea what this is, but it's pretty

>>1884308

>>1884174
It's a life drawing of a person sitting down painting at a desk from behind. Does it really read that poorly? Thanks for taking the time to respond to all those people by the way.

>>1884313
Well, the black halo around their head doesn't really help, as does the kind of messy border between what I assume is their hair and the body, although it's kind of obvious it's what that was now.

>>1884079
coloured version

>>1884316
gross

>>1884323
why?

>>1882923
Looks like Wakfu/French style

>>1884316
>color
>not cleaning up the lines
I should steal your ice cream

>>1884304
sorry

>>1884339
Our daddy told us not to be ashamed of our dicks

>>1884339
>dick
I really wasnt expecting that.

Too bad I prefer female feral dragons

>>1884351
>not preferring futa dragons

Finished it like a week ago, any suggestions or critique

>>1884374
>Tits too high
>waist too narrow
>neck is juuuust too long
>no hands
>nose hatches dont make sense and make the area look flatter than it needs to be

Otherwise, i'd print it out and cum on it.
In fact I still might do that.
Tommorow

First real attempt at a character + background

>>1884313
I can see what you were trying to do by drawing the black shape around the hair. But, you should try to compose the black value shape so that is doesn't seem like it's an actual object. Easy way to this is by making it a square, or a circle.

Also, I would consider exaggerating your occlusion shadows, like where the leg meets the chair, where the arm meets the desk, and the crevices where the arms meet the torso.

>>1884336
Is it a chick?

>>1884391
what is the main character doing?

>>1884393
such a bad movie

>>1884403
he's hurt and lying on a hill/slope trying to fight off the comps

>>1883861
Well, you drew the eyes quite small. Ears looked like you just winged it. Observe closely areas that you don't understand, even if it seems meticulous, try to focus on what's happening in those areas, and take your time drawing them.

The nose is almost there. It's a good try.

Was this your reference?

>>1883827
thanks for the thorough analysis and feedback man

>>1884407
I've never actually seen it

>>1883808
>>1883825
>>1883837
>>1883840
>>1883848
>>1883858
>>1883862
>>1883868

Anon I am not trying to insult you, just giving pointers. You must understand, to progress further (I can 100% tell you are in an artist block, trying your best to make some original/power work but finding yourself repeating stuff, am i right?) you need to learn how to sketch properly in relation to work.

Now if you want to, render this image of mine, you will notice the difference in terms of how powerful your art will become with a stronger original sketch.

I am in no ways good, I have further to go as well, the sketch was done with 12.5 minutes timed.
You can do it, Your rendering is nice and efficient, I like that, all you have to do is DRAW, and LEARN where MUSCLES are and HOW THEY DIFFER IN SITUATIONS. (E.G FLEXING, BENDS, MOVEMENT, FORESHORTENING) I know you will get it down faster than you think.

1/2

>>1884430

2/2

Just finished this off. Would like constructive critique. pros/cons?

>>1884270
Polite bump. Would like some critique on this, need to know why I'm fucking up.

>>1884430
No worries, I don't feel insulted, only frustrated with myself that what I'm producing isn't better. I've restarted the sketch and am trying to push some things and be more conscious of what you and other anons have pointed out. So yeah, no offense or anything taken, in fact I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this.

>>1884270
>hair looks like weird chicken scratch
not really my thing
>collar bones dont work like that
i'd look up some refs for it
>knuckles and fingers on the hand are distracting
>neck looks flat
it should be more cylindrical the shading that you added doesn't really help at all

Overall it looks like you are avoiding anatomical details by stylizing them out, which appears lazy.

I like the general edginess though, you heart seems to be in the right place, just keep drawing anon!

>>1884441
>collarbones and necks

Got it, thanks

>>1884308
anon, you responded to everybody, but which one is yours?

>>1884432
can't really tell where the light is coming from which also kinda makes the features look flat-ish. looks like you spent a bit of time on this but imho it would be better to not bother too much with the hair and instead focus on the features and lighting. still, great job! keep it up :)

>>1881989
>>1881959
holy shit are you 12?

>>1884348
>>1884351
that anon >>1884339
is not me, that's my gf's dragon and she hates furfag shit (the dick is not included), I don't have PS so I can't make the dragon show up more, I will ask for a better photograph.
P.S. the anon of the dragon dick got it right except for the dick.
please forgive me

>>1884224
Self bump. I know the claws are shit but what about the rest?

>>1884224
You picked a tough pose to read. The arms look too beefy, and are competing with the bulk of the chest.

maybe try to do 3 more poses that are easier to read, it should be pretty fast since you are just blocking in values

>>1884490
The whole thing is poorly constructed. On the right, the pose makes it seem like that side of his body should be further away from the viewer than the side on the left of the picture, yet everything on the right is bigger. The ear flaps or whatever aren't the same size and have the same perspective-defying issue to them. Also, the material doesn't read as metal to me. Metal, at least I think, should have more solid shapes and sharper lines, definitely sharper highlights. You oughta grab that one pic of Jackman doing that pose and try to copy it and then get some ref for the metal too.

not very original but yeah sure

>>1884509
Thanks for this. Will do what you suggested.

>>1884440

Sure dude, all in due time, all in due time. Everyone that stays, gets there.

Mullins started at 25.... mullins started at 25.... Mullins started at 25....

>>1884394
Thanks, I like the idea of making it a geometric shape.

>>1884461
here's a better pic, please help me with it's perspective :(

>>1884536
Not until you include dragon dick

>>1884035
>rosebud

>>1881959
>>1881989
Even more browse /v/.
Including me

>>1884536
>perspective
>no foreground
>no land

what

>>1884413

thanks brah. this twas my reference. >pic lated
I wil take all you told me under consideration and get to work on my second attempt right now.

>>1884432
symbols/10

>>1884536
constructing the image with simple forms would be a good way to start here! this dragon is really long and snake-like, so making him out of a bunch of cylinders seems best. i feel like you can get away with a lot when it comes to dragons, so don't be afraid to play around with a more interesting or dynamic pose, too. on the drawing i did, i made parts of the dragon overlap, which might seem small and insignificant, but can help create a sense of depth when there's no background or points of reference. when putting on the finish, adding cross-contour lines can help define the forms and develop a sense of depth in the character as well.

if you're worried about perspective, draw out a light and rough perspective grid when you start to lay down a ground plane, and then tie your character to it. if you're uncomfortable with perspective, do studies of simple shapes in different positions and eye levels on a grid until you can manipulate them freely from imagination. your drawing looks like you went straight to the outline right away without any forethought or underdrawing, which is a dangerous way to work!

i'm not great when it comes to things that aren't human, so my anatomy might look little wonky here, but i hope this helps in some way!

>>1881942
study.

>>1884647
muh ref

So I'm trying this again and I think it's working out better this time. Still hard but it looks a lot more like the kind of painting/drawing I wanted to make.

>>1884647
Nose too narrow, lips not full enough.

How's this coming? I'm not quite sure how much work it still needs.

>>1884700
I think it looks pretty awesome! It's a bit out of my scope, but I think I'd make the lighting a bit moodier. Dark in the middle ground, some green glow where you have that greenish light over there in the top left, but faint so it looks distant, and maybe those sparks are the brightest light in the foreground.

>>1884308
the lady did have a heavier bottom half. This doesn't help me by telling me just what looks wrong, how to I improve this?

>>1884413

okay no more fucking around. This is my second attempt with more time and more attention to detail/no more overlooking things.
It still has a ways to go but I feel it has improved...

>>1884711
fixed an obvious error.

>>1884721
Shoulda kept it. It feels... lacking... without it.

>>1881942
Composition good?

>>1884700
dat yellow kills it.

>>1884401
Yes

>>1884409
looks like he's in the air, about to land on those velociraptors down there.

Well, thought I'd post something too since this thread is probably about to die. Not much going on in this image, just brainfarts that I do from time to time.

Tsuj?

>>1883035
Love these!

>>1883131
Flip your canvas and have a closer look at the alignment of the eyes.

>>1884700
Values could use some work to better direct the eye. From the thumbnail I couldn't even tell what I was looking at, which is usually a sign that you need to take more care towards establishing and separating your largest value shapes.

The bottom right of the canvas feels crammed, especially seeing how that welding machine is cut off by the canvas, how yellow it is, and how bright those sparks are. The eyes are pulled into that corner and they get stuck.

>>1884772
Very nice. That fish thing looks great. Got some place you post your other work?

>>1884908
The images I post here I'd like to keep exclusive to 4chan if at all necessary.

It's just the way I roll.

>>1884673

Alot better than the original dude, keep up the good work!

>>1884700
pretty boring, other than spicing it up keep going

>>1885008
Thanks, yeah I'm keeping at it but it's taking way longer than I'd like. Here's an update >>1885164

r-repost from other thread because no one responded ;_;

>>1885226
Needs more gesture, or a crop in.

>>1884313
It reads fine. I like it and didn't reply because there isn't much to critique.
Anatomy seems right, the pose is pretty simple, looks pretty natural, and overall, it's a sketch, so doesn't matter if the fidelity of the lines isn't that great.

Don't pay much attention to the guy who didn't understand it, keep posting this stuff.

>>1885226
shouldn't this area be lighter, or alternately the area below it darker?