/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Fuck

>>1872234
ur mom

>>1872241
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>1872234
you gonna take that? are you just gonna take that and do nothing son!!!?

>>1872242
>>1872241
>>1872234

Donut bully.

>>1872242
ur mom took that :^)

anyway, some minor shit

Can someone post that pic that show how much comic artists must know each drawing element (color, composition, anatomy, etc)?

>>1872278
Sycras one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKV5nXL-C4

>>1872278
There's no way to measure how much you know any of those things. And there's no magical number you must reach in each category. Even within "comic artists" there are lots of different jobs and specialties and styles which would change things entirely.

I realized that eys drawn with lineart only look especially creepy on younger characters ...but then again I'm a total noob in terms of values

>>1872247
I want to ink her on her tummy

All done now I had more fun painting the cloud than anything I've ever done.

>>1872249
he is a qt
>>1872339
i see some improvement mikufag but

>>1872347
Shiet nigga, thanks for the paintover.

>>1872364
>paintover
>he just added tumblr nose

wow

>>1872339
Her left breast (our right) should be lowered and to the right a bit more. I think what's harming it overall is the line of her under boob. They're small so they're not going to form a line especially not one as harsh as that.

>>1872420
face doesnt meet the standard of the rendering, as per usual; the facial features dont line up properly

who the fuck put Firez as the OP?

>>1872433
Was she sexually abused?

>>1872339
i know you can do it mikufag
study more about anatomy, that arm is wrong and the shape of the ribcage too.
i think you even reference it, but if you dont understand the structure underneath, it shows.
you have chose colors pretty close in value so it doesnt really define form. Besides the lines you make doesnt help either.
if the lightsource is the sun there should be even more contrast
And the cloud is not lighted with the same lightsource of the character
it doesnt help with the composition either, if you ever thought about it
i would recommend getting a lot of mileage at drawing first before painting. Study anatomy and lighting and go over greyscale
but keep it up mikufag, i think we even started around the same time man!

>>1872230
possibly the worst file image to be uploaded for this thread

>>1872339
>>1872463
clouds dont work like that

>>1872339

looked better with gray bg

>>1872230

>>1872420
tricky angle you got there anon
>>1872499
Thanks!

>>1872499
>implying cumulus castellanus cloud are the only cloud type in the world
Well, this would explain why nobody ever draws cirrus clouds.
Anyways the one depicted in the paint over looked more like an altocumulus fractus (with the fractured parts overlapping due to perspective).

>>1872646
>being this autistic about clouds

did i draw a good miku?

>>1872721
Sketchbook Thread
>>1866565

>>1872727
>better than mikufag at drawing miku

>>1872837

Can I get some feedback on the color and composition?

>>1872727
fixed the tones

>>1872697
>disregarding knowledge
Get your shit straight fuccboi

Any comments so far?

>>1872958
there are a lot of anatomy issues w/ the most jarring being stubby appendages.

>>1872951
You provoked an irrelevant conversation, its best to stop looking like a moron by posting useless information.

>>1872964
This guy >>1872951 here is not me (>>1872646), and both mine and this anon information is not irrelevant. >>1872499 stated that a cloud was wrong simply because it wasn't a common type of cloud. Which is wrong.

Hello, everyone. I'd just like to ask some of you how you go about creating your art. Do you work in black and white first or color and why? What canvas size do you usually use? I'm looking for ways to polish my work because they usually end up very rough. Critique would be appreciated too, I guess.

>>1872958
Something is wrong with the right girl's face and left hand. Face is not properly aligned with the head and her hand's position looks painful. Other than that, it's not bad.

update...I'm going to bed

>>1873037
nlike it

>>1872928
The balloons getter bluer in the distance is good, but the colors in the foreground are very saturated, try to reserve such colors for the focus of your picture and tone the rest down. I like bright saturated colors as well, but they're much more effective if not everything is colored/painted with them.

>>1872951

This is some seriously good fuckin info.

Sketch of Dracula to honor the season. Pen, copic and watercolor on copy paper.

Getting more comfortable with markers and paint.

>>1872447
you're sick, don't talk to me ever again.

>>1873201
LMAO

>>1873142
the red block really works

Do you all agree with the "use someone else's style until it finally becomes a monster of your own"? I've been drawing in the Danganronpa art style lately to where I can freehand it pretty well in my opinion.

I have hard times with hands though.

>>1873210
>I have hard times with hands though.
One of the drawbacks in drawing on someone's style. You can't really adjust anything (be it hands, feet, facial expression, etc) FREELY because you are drawing under someone else's interpretation of anatomy/still life/etc.

>>1873227
I'll add though. If you actually understand how the artist's style was done(construction side), or should I say you already have a grasp of fundamentals, then I think it could not be bad.

But in your case I think you should go on study fundamentals first. Not bad to draw someone's style for fun but to improve go loomis or something or how to draw manga whatever suits you.

i went full retard...didnt i

>>1873241
dunno if thats supposed to be hair or a hood

>>1873210
I'd say you have trouble with lines in general - check out dynamic sketching with peter han

>>1873142
pretty cool

>>1872998
sketch (1-5 iterations) -> lineart -> b/w values -> color is my preference

>>1872958
heads look pretty good, but anatomy of the rest is quite off

>>1872932
unfortunately tones can't fix the bad fountdation

>>1873037
idk what the focal point is supposed to be, the path/lines guides to the little figure but it doesn't really stand out that much

>>1873101
Thanks fot the tip. I tend to struggle with over saturated paintings a lot. I like a lot of color and then have a tendency to over do it. I'll fix it later today
>>1873253
The figures will be animated so they'll be eaay to read.but I'll bump the some of the colors back to make it easier.

>>1873233
Yeah, I could do that. What I'm hoping right now is that if I draw different pictures from references enough I'll start to understand how hands, or clothes will work and whatnot.

>>1873253
Hey wanna redline or something? No matter how hard i look i can't see the bad foundation.

>>1873300
Not that guy but try flipping your drawing horizontally so you can force your mind to spot mistakes, you're working on a round plane so you want to describe these features on the same round plane. Practice some construction from Fun with a Pencil it will help you out a lot.

>>1873241
lmao i like ruan jia too buddy.

>>1872958
SIDEMOUTH

>>1873315
Thanks! I see what's wrong with the face now. I guess i was treating her face like a flat surface.

>>1873329
Go get Fun with a pencil, start constructing and at the same time study linear perspective you might as well get all of the books found here:

http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

I would start with successful drawing and fun with a pencil, if successful drawing seems too daunting go and get the book called perspective made easy.

>>1873334
Thanks but i've been through those books before and didn't find them very useful. I think I've got basic perspective down, I was just thinking about the wrong shapes. I'm going to go study some model's face shapes.

>>1873344
im not the guy you're replying to but im stepping in for a second
>didn't find them very useful

suck it up and read them, if not go watch prokos or the other 1000 loomis head construction videos on youtube
jumping straight into rendering when you dont have the basics down is pointless

besides the flat face there is more wrong in your image concerning anatomy and proportion
please read the sticky and become a learning sponge instead of a my time is important tom

>>1872727
>>1872932
>>1873315
>>1873344
you could try hampton, it helped me a lot
and you too mikufag

>>1872998
>sketch/ construction
>Line
>color

Lines can be colored a darker shade of the current color equipped

>>1872433
>>1872618
Thanks for the advice and paintover... but I think I messed up way too much on the construction to change anything at this point, gonna just quickly finish it and move on. Thank you.

>>1873384
You just made her body smaller

>>1873388
He corrected your proportions in relation to the head.

>>1873210
I saw Danganronpa before I even read your comment.
Its about mixing up styles

>>1873201
Thats what It looks like you dumbass

>>1873387
i like it anon keep it up!

>>1873390
Hmm. I think I see it, thanks for the help. So I tried it again, are these proportion better?

>>1873384
>paintover

>>1873384
arms are too short nau

>>1873387
cute, do you have a tumblr or da?

>>1873408
what the hell is she looking at?

>>1873414
Your face you fucking midget

>>1873416
Looks like shes looking at the bottom left corner

>>1873422
Is that a bad thing? should she be looking at the viewer?

>>1873387
Hope you can understand what I've done in attached.

>>1873425
Not him but when you are drawing you want to have a form of communication with the viewer. Can you imagine someone giving you a salute but they look away or down on the floor instead of look at your eyes? There is no communication therefore it leaves you with a weird feeling.

where do I begin

>>1873037
Well as per usual it ended up looking like shit in the end. Back to the drawing board I suppose.
>>1873264

I uh, I did this because of a friend's dare. Originally it was to see if I could draw Guts, but I did a bad job making it look serious so I just added the sweat marks and I've been using it as a reaction image. Kind of a mixture of my style with 70% being Miura's what do you guys think?

FIREZ STOP FUCKING MAKING THREADS WITH YOUR CANCEROUS FUCKING SHITPAINTS YOU REALISE NO ONE FUCKING LIKES YOU BUT YOU DECIDE TO BE A CUNT ON PURPOSE, FUCK OFF

>>1873493
The op image is actually and overpaint an anon did in the last thread, way better imo

>>1873495
Still has shitty Firez retarded eyes all over it

>>1873489
eyes a bit too far apart otherwise 300 favs on deviant art

>>1873504

yeah tuck her right eye closer to the nose bridge

>>1873492

Nose seems sort of long, also needs a bigger chin and more chiseled cheekbones

Thing about guts is that he's got like 10/10 perfect male facial proportions

Update.

About the sidemouth, I was trying to be on model with the character design.

>>1873523
I've noticed that in many of my pictures I draw noses a little long. Is that necessarily a bad thing if it's kept in proportion with the face with stylizing? About the 10/10, that's spot on with my assessment too, though he just looks like Dolph Lundgren now.

>>1873530

I don't think anyone will give you that much shit for it, we all know sidemouth exists due to budget constraints and is a stylistic shortcut

>>1873538
What world is he in?

Does this seem alright to you guys? If you saw the porn thread on the front page, this isn't a copy of that OP.

>>1873546
Battlefield 4

>>1873538
This is something that is not going to bother most people who are going to see that drawing, but his pose is terrible and has no support. There's no way he could shoot steadily from that position with that gun.

The proper way to shoot accurately while crouching, especially with a heavy gun like that, is to place your ass and most of your weight on your back heel, lean forward a little bit for balance, and place your elbow on your knee.

That pose could work as long as he'd place his left elbow on his knee for support, but placing most of your weight on your back heel is the steadiest.

Sorry for my autism.

>>1873538
/k/ would not be proud

feedback plz

>>1873567
Thanks for the advice, I never really considered the weight of it. I know nothing about guns.
based it off this <-

Exploring the blueprint to drawing cute little girls
>>1872447
No, she is just a very sad loli-

>>1873490
I rather like the tower and hot air balloons actually. Just keep at it and you'll figure out the color thing eventually.

Maybe take a look at some of your favourite pictures from other artists and try to analyze what colors they used?

>>1873586
What's bothered me is how tiny that muzzle flash is.

>>1873585
try drawing the skull first
also work on face proportions
but overall, try studying realism first, this doesn't mean you completely stop drawing anime, like for example, draw realistic eyes then use your knowledge to draw anime eyes.
draw them part by part

>>1873722
also study neck anatomy
some parts ain't right especially top left head

>>1873722
>>1873723
thanks!

I'll try drawing skulls tomorrow and look into neck anatomy/construction. I kinda struggled placing the neck lines properly

I think I have (anime) eyes down to a level I'm satisfied with atm, I didn't focus on them here because I wanted to focus on head shape

but I'll eventually study realism

>>1873671
Thanks man. It's just frustrating when I know what I want it to look like but i'm limited with what I can actually render at times.

hows this? anything really off?

What does /ic/ think of Tetsuya Nomura's version of Hatsune Miku?

>>1873745

The desk she's sitting on feels like it should be even with the staircase, and also it seems to be missing a back leg?

>>1873746
It's nice. The colors are a bit garish though.

>>1873747
how do you mean it should be even with the staircase?

I must've lost the leg when I was cleaning up.

>>1873432
You gave her four breasts?

I drew fox mccloud.

>>1873757
The better to milk, my dear

any anatomy problems or problems i can fix

>>1873849
None that I can tell since its so cleverly (hue) hidden behind baggy clothes.

>>1873849
stop watching Korra, it's shit.

>>1873821
Where is the center of gravity? Right now it looks like the character is sitting on an invisible chair

>>1873849
The line weight changes too drastically on the shoes. It looks like they belong to a different drawing.

>>1872613
too flat. No sense of depth or form. Get back to the sticky

>>1873204
>>1873253

Thanks.

>>1873859
Your wafiu a shit

>>1873142

Another shot.

>>1873730
didn't find a good tutorial on how to properly construct the bones of a skull so I mainly used google images

any tricks on how to get the sideview or three-quarter view right? I find the area where the back teeth are located especially hard to draw

the jaw overlaps part of the bone where the upper teeth are connected but it still feels weird dunno

>>1873939
Read Loomis Drawing the head and hands. One of the first section is about skull construction

>>1873939
no sense of perspective or symmetry. Start by constructing simple shapes to get an idea of depth

>>1873939
>>1873940
Also stop chicken scratching

a few more

>>1873940
thanks, although the skull "section" is really small

I also checked out jazzas video on drawing skulls

>>1873958
care to elaborate the perspective and symmetry thing? maybe redline?

>>1873959
does that really matter right now? I'm just trying to get mileage

I can draw clean lines but it takes way longer (thinking, undo/redo) I'm not sure if thats the best way to go about this practice

but I'm open for opinions

After all that fundies talk last thread I got some pix to study. Trying a new thing, here is my plan:
> do some studies first
> redraw animation frames as a baseline to see if I learned anything
> since the frames are heavily simplified, it'll be a good opportunity to test what I've learned with a "semi-reference"

Goal:
> improve the original frame referenced

I was referencing the poses too hard (ex: middle 8, left 10) and I got some bad anatomy. Also, I deleted the pants since they were interfering with my studies. I need to tune my algorithm a bit, but I think there is a middle ground where I can train myself...

>>1873992
that second one looks kinda like b-ko from my favorite animu

>>1874000
Mmm probably not intentional, I combined the two refs

>>1874000
Mmm probably not intentionally, I combined the two refs

I also try to use equally amounts of different colors to save ink, otherwise I'd just make them naked...

>>1873917

One last one tonight.

someone rip me a new one, I want to get out of my mediocre/shit level

>>1873413
http://yilx.deviantart.com/

>>1874007
What's the link for that short chinks animation again?

>>1874037
anatomy is shit
study it

>>1874071
Do you mean kungfu cooking girls?
http://youtu.be/3cwyG8krXyU

ahhuhgughuUHGUGHGUHHH

Bootleg PS pls. Maybe I wouldn't be so mad when this happens if I knew how to use save.

Waiting warmly for unfreeze.

>>1873992
Im gonna do the same thing today but, with Korra.

>>1874037
left:
1) hand cuteness ^_^
2) the torso was too long, so the redline matches that but is bigger/longer everywhere else. eg. head and legs.
3) symmetrical limb posing are boring in general

right:
1) popped the torso out a bit more, but especially note that the ribcage points away from the viewer so the bunny suit line curves the other way
2) again, torso much too long compared to legs. legs are sexy!
3) be careful to attach the neck so it looks symmetrical!

>>1874037
bonus i guess. im kida shit at drawing ppl lying down but what i want to draw attn to is bootyliciousness. a very important factor to work on!

>>1874229
Yea mang. In NY, alll the China town bitches got them long torsos. Shit is an instant turn off.

>>1874037
>>1874229
not the kind of bodytype i'd recommend for this kind of drawing, but showing some lines/overlaps for the ribcage and arm/torso connection

>>1874037
>>1874229
last one

>>1874241
I think he wants the trap to stand out.

>>1874025

these are cool, sorry you're getting ignored

are you that same guy that would use red blockouts with his portaits, don't have any examples on hand

>>1874229
>>1874232
>>1874241
>>1874244
thanks for the redlines and advice, helped me alot

>>1874327
ay youre welcome bud. always glad to support a good cause (eg., shotas)

>>1873622
Nice Tamako~
The movie was really good

I tried to fix most of the stuff people suggested, and I'm pretty happy, It's due wednesday, any final feedback?

>>1874272

I don't think I am that guy.

>>1874405
The length/height of her skull and the little halo of white around the 'standing' pigeon.'s head

>>1874393
do I have to watch the series to enjoy the movie to the fullest?

>>1874405
is that digital or traditional?

I'd maybe darken the lower third and the girl herself

a thicker outline around her could be cool or less saturation in the background

>>1872230

>>1874423
>do I have to watch the series to enjoy the movie to the fullest?
Yea it would be best, the movie kind of relies on the character development of the series, and to understand what's going on between the various characters.

>>1874417
>>1874423
Thanks guys, I'll work on these!
It's traditional watercolor that I went over parts with digital.

>>1873987
(different anon)
Well the problem with chicken scratching isn't so much that your lines aren't perfectly clean, it's more that it means you're likely drawing from your wrist instead of your shoulder or elbow. That not only makes a lot of things (like long lines) harder to draw but also puts a lot of strain on the wrist and can lead to injuries. I mean you'd have to draw A LOT for that to happen, but better safe than sorry right?

Try stuff like the exercises in this video while trying to draw from your elbow or shoulder. Also make sure not to grap the pen too hard, that is bad for your hand as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>1873992
Sounds like a great plan. It's really cool to see you do some more serious studies, I just hope that doesn't take the fun out of it for you.

Anyway, I feel like these look a bit better already.

>>1873877
you are so great at giving advices and encouraging people

>>1872613
the right arm is a bit akward, specially the fingers

her right leg looks like its amputated, even if you justify it by saying its bending towards the other side of the mushroom, i personally think it would look better hanging near the mushroom

also, by placing her hair between her wings, you will give it a sense that their wings are transparent, just like you did with her back

add some details to the mushroom, rib and torso lines to her as well as nipples and toes and it would look great pal

>>1874432
it only has 2 claws? i thought it had 5 or at least 3

>>1873210
I don't know man. I learned to draw people when I said "okay I've have enough of drawing square boxes and machines let's try people" then proceeded to trace a fuckton of rustle doujins. I don't think it's working at all.

>>1874585
lol

did you ever think to try drawing people?

pshhuu. Hoping this is starting to read.

somethin

>>1873697
in the original which i just happen to have, she wasn't firing at all.

I just got an email from Marie-Claude Bourbonnais

>>1874647
or rather i should say she'd just fired

will /v/ like my vivian?

>>1873849
i started with the pic to the left and ended up with the right after following the tips you guys gave me. However i still don't know why it doesn't feel correct to me. can someone please give me a red line?

>>1874647
Please don't use this picture as an accurate depiction of shooting.

>>1874650
I like it, a lot

torso area seems weird
redline?

>>1874647
>>1874655
It's an anime girl with a ~30 lb. weapon platform. I guess it gets a pass for something.

>>1874653
I like my bitches hood. Good job, anon.

>>1874650
Looks great, except the hair looks like plastic!
Other than that great job!

>>1874650
It's good, but I'll play devil's advocate and go so far as to say she looks too 'sexy' for what /v/ was intending.

>>1874650
neocoil is that you?

>>1873327
>ruan jia
first time hearing that name, but i looked him up and yes, i like him

>>1874650
Her eyebrows are weirdly detailed compared to the hair, but otherwise it looks nice.

>>1874650
>vivian jfdgafgafgahf
how much do they pay you to waste your talent on this shit

>>1874653
Fixed version is pretty nice. I'd suggest looking up refs for the arms/hands, and for how baggy jeans fold (especially on the lower leg) because that part looks really off to me.

>>1874650
>Vivian

Do it Kyle, do it hard.

>>1874650
why is her eyes uneven and vivian has dark circles under her eyes.

on an unrealated note, is there a /ic/ board on hate chan where I could go, or are we still waiting here for moot to not allow us to post sexy girls in skimpy outfits, crying out "MUH SOGGY KNEE"?

>>1874658
I think it's a foreshortening issue, torso also feels short. Better or worse?

>>1874650

Kyle you are my role model

>>1874824
kyle for president

>>1872230
damn, firez has a horrible style/taste in women.

Something feels off here, like I've gone and done the top and bottom of the figure in different perspectives. Can I get a crit to point me in the right direction?

how do I make cocks more dynamic,
I want the cocks to be part of the illustration, not just addons

>>1874840
you can start by learning how a cock looks. If you're an artist you have to research all sorts of things, your own cock won't suffice and if that's what your cock looks like I am very sorry for you, that's really unfortunate.

>>1874835
A shame really he tries so hard >>1874840

>>1874795
thanks a lot, I think it looks a lot better and has a better perspective.
I think I'll keep the little ween though

>Drawn a lot of sfw in a lot of poses
>Details galore
>Start on porn
>Less detail, simpler poses (less clothing)
>Somehow harder

>>1874773
control f 'art' on the hatechan board index

>>1874871
I was just messin' around with the dick, do what you want.

>Probably should've made that clear...

>>1874895
probably should've rotated this before i saved

>>1874650
This is kyle right? why don't you ever post your drawings anywhere? or did you change galleries? both your pixiv and tumblr are awfully outdated.

>>1874405
I liked some things on the original, such as the way you drew her knees.
Also, I may be speaking bs, but the reddish tones on her clothes and head makes her look as part of the background. She aint the center of the pick anymore.
Besides that, I love it, keep it up

Heres one for the smut thread
WIP

im practising faces. done this sheet week ago or so.

i often have trubble making eyes symetrical for both side of faces.

practising also rendering.

>>1874965
quick update

>>1875029
gooking forward to more

>>1874965
watch out those knees
>>1875011
>>1875014
>>1875015
keep it up anon i like it

WIP
also question
what are good anime/manga artists to study from?

>>1874653
>hood bitch
gives good head I bet

>>1875046
I'm a huge 80's guy so I had a lot of early inspiration from Masami Yuuki and Akemi Tadaka. 90's Production IG (GitS1 and Patlabor 2) was also a big influence on me.
Also, here's something I'm in the process of doing. Any pointers? There's a few things I'm working on right now with that in terms of fixing anatomy.

>>1874840
>>1868955
>>1868930
dicks for all

>>1875046
y-y-you too!

hjl is my inspiration in rendering check him out.
http://www.zerochan.net/HJL

...
one still life a day to keep the scrub away.

>>1875084

>>1875046

takehiko inoue, katsuya terada, hiroaki samura and yoh yoshinari are top tier. may not be the type of "anime" you're looking for, but they're the best that come to mind atm.

>>1875052

>I'm working on right now with that in terms of fixing anatomy.

That won't save your ass. The shoulders, clavicles, deltoids and breasts need lots of work. That whole area is too big and disproportional to begin with.

>>1875090
Sheeeeeit I was afraid I'd need to redo that whole area.

What do you think, mates?

>>1872837
I love it, cute and fun, great facial expression

>>1875110
weird, i don't like it

>>1875110
like the cat dude, the finger is botched and the hat is not really my thing

>>1875110
It's unclear wether he's holding the weapon/staff or if it's attached to his belt because the hand is positioned right over the staff but doesn't look like it's holding onto it.

I really like it otherwise though.

>>1875110
>When I noticed that hat
I like it, definitely memorable.

I'm trying to push my sketches further, work my way up to finished renders. Gesture is bad, but I like it.

>>1875122
Your colors look very muddy and lifeless, especially the skin. Unless that was your attention I'd recommend to avoid shading with black.

The red on her pants is also drawing the viewer's eye to it a lot because the rest is so monochrome. I'd recommend adding some color to her head/face or ditching the red stripe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQllLy_X4I&index=1&list=PLV2X3tgajVlFROS5fuIVKLGs78_fC4JTN

>>1875125
intention I mean, not attention

>>1875125
quickly messed with the sliders, and painted some more.

I'll have to look through that video, I know shit about color

>>1875199
that fucking guy.

>>1875084
push those values anon, otherwise pretty nice

and damn the ones with cars are awesome, definetly will study him/her, because im still in the uncanny valley

>>1875087
thats exactly what i was looking for anon, this moe or whatever style(pic related), dont really like it
.
im loving yoshinari

practice and shit.

>>1875038
heres another m80

>>1875046
>watch out those knees
I hadnt read your post but I'll try to fix

still dont know where her other hand is going and i mightve mudded her left leg, but
>muhstyle

this was fun

>>1875212

np

since you seem to have good taste there are a couple of other artists i've taken notice of that might be relevant to your interests:

- tsutomu nihei. the guy isn't actually that good at drawing people but his designs look cool as fuck. plus he studied architecture so his buildings and shit look sweet

- kentarou miura, but only after a certain time period. his art in the first few volumes of berserk was kind of wonky and generic but around volume 14 or so he starts becoming pretty good and nowadays he makes some of the most polished art in the industry.

- Shinichi Sakamoto. Look up his work on "Innocent". Proceed to drool at japanese master race comic draftsmanship.

- Tsutomu Takahashi. Look up his work on Sidooh, Hito Hitori Futari, and Skyhigh. The guy is super fucking underrated.

- Inio Asano. His visual storytelling and art is near master level and he's only like 31.

- Masakazu Katsura.

- Boichi (the only thing i don't care for is his sameface bishoujo fixation but other than that he is pretty skilled)

these are primarily the guys i would look up to/study/respect.

>>1874426

i am offering to share of some of these guys' works in this thread so if you're interested post there and ask.

Been working on drawing something other than generic anime stuff. Also working on slowing down and pacing myself so I don't rush and create shitty looking lines etc.

Let me know what you think! Any help would be appreciated.

I didn't really follow the dude's prompt, so I'm redoing it. Thoughts? D:

>>1875332
Shit.

>>1875422
elaborate

>>1874650
>Kyle returns

>>1875433
That was your regular /ic/ troll learn to ignore them next time

in his stead i'll give you a real critique though:

Next time you should probably clean up the reference lines a bit, take more time in drawing background items or don't bother drawing them ( i'm referring to the lamp and stand ) the pose is a little stiff especially for lifting the couch even if she's doing it with ease, the vacuum could've been done better and her legs are of proportion a bit but only below the knee especially the left one

the image is not shit but needs a lot of work

>>1872230
how can I improve 'muh style'?
>inb4
I do practice figure drawing

>>1875502
The mouths on black girl and ginger are off center.

>>1875502

the scythes are cool looking

I'm risking sounding like SJW but the outfits are sort of skimpy

I mean is there a specific plot relevant reason why they're showing so much skin if they fight demons or whatever the shit

>>1875515
I'd say that the scythes need to stand out more too, they blend into the background too much right now.

>>1875515
why wouldn't you want to be a social justice warrior, sounds awesome. like batman basically.

>>1875520
Batman is justice, not social justice.
http://youtu.be/TUBoWi37Y8o?t=9s

>>1875502
It's kind of a boring composition

Posted this in the draw thread, but didn't get any input. Thought it might be okay here, too.

Are the asymmetries as jarring as I think they are? Or am I hyper-focusing? Any thoughts on the style? Anything obnoxious about it?

>>1875526
>Dennis Prager
Muh nigga
>>1875515
>sort f skimpy
Seen worst
>I mean is there a specific plot relevant reason why they're showing so much skin if they fight demons or whatever the shit
As of right now... not really, but I mean to rewrite and redesign a few stuff so that it does
>>1875534
Thanks for the reply. I do plan to make another cover. I'll take all this into consideration before proceeding to the 'actual comic'

>>1875502
Are you japanese? You don't think enough demons have been killed in that cultures mythos? I mean it's one thing to be inspired by the style, but at least try a little bit

>>1875502
>how can I improve 'muh style'?

experiment with proportions and the way you draw details.

>>1875332
I love this anon

>>1875014

>>1875555
>Are you Japanese?
Nope... Nor do I pretend to be
>Animu style
>demons
>must mean Shinto/Buddhist/Japanese stuff
Is a safe guess by the looks of it but that ain't the case. Actually the Demons I want to do are going to be Judeo-Christian and Celtic inspired... Originally I wanted to put Journey to the West inspired monsters but then I realized that I don't know much about it, so I'll stick to what I know (Celtic mythology and Dante's Inferno and the like). Same for setting and such, it's going to be set in LA actually. And the name 'Tokki' is korean for 'Bunny' that's why she has those big bunny-ear like headpiece... Like you said 'be inspired by the style' that's one thing, and 'try a little bit' the reason I don't want to go straight out to japanese folklore with this stuff. I also think that would be too weeby

>>1875412
Cute!

The arm (lower arm is too long) and neck (too long, way it connects with the torso) are the biggest issues I see right now. Her eyes are a bit too high up as well, but I like her face a lot either way.

>>1875582
It might just be me, but it kinda looks like she's looking in two different directions.

Otherwise, I really like it

>>1875546
I don't see jarring asymmetries, you've probably just looked at it for too long. That said, I don't think it's very appealing stylistically speaking. You don't quite have the anatomical knowledge yet to pull off the semi-realistic thing all that well, but you don't seem to have practiced stylization much either. That said, it's very hard to give you helpful pointers in that area without knowing what kind of style you want to achieve.

On a more general level two things you could do to improve these relatively quickly would be

1. more contrast - aside from some characters having darker hair the shading is very flat and almost everything is midtones. At least some areas should have stronger shadows, like the neck. (Judging by the lines you put in that area you had the right idea, but a darker value would look much better considering that you haven't used hatching anywhere else.)

2. Study ears.

Your colors are on the dull side as well, but color is sort of a complicated topic so that might not be the first thing to look into for a quick fix.
Skintones have a lot of subtle color shifts, like ears being more reddish or mens' jaws often taking on a slightly blueish hue because of the stubble (even if it's not really visible yet otherwise).
The color of highlights is influenced by the color(s) of the lightsource(s) and the color of the shadows by the character's surroundings.

>>1875589
Well I don't know anything of your story, but I don't really get a sense of what you just said in that cover and part of a cover is to sell your shit. When I see it I see just another weabo. In other words, I'm not a weabo and you claim your story isn't, but you lost me as an audience because your cover looks super weabo. Does that make sense?

>>1875589
A very simple trick to make your story sound much more interesting is to not use the word demon or use names of actual mythological creatures. Just change them and your story will instantly seem less clichee.

As for the cover, I have to agree with the other anon that it doesn't sell the premise too well, either include a cool monster that brings across the whole celtic or christanity inspired thing, or make it more fanservicey if that's the direction you want to take your comic in (or both).
Also, please don't do that red and green shit around the line work, it's distracting and makes it hard to look at the image properly.

>>1875612
>agreeing with him
>still replies

>>1875617
>red and green shit around the line work
Put on your 3D glasses for best results

>>1875617
>add monster
>add fan service
Should do.
>do not use the word demon or use names of actual mythological creatures
Do you mean, don't use actual names or use actual names?

>>1875620
>Do you mean, don't use actual names or use actual names?

Don't use them. "Demon Hunter" just sounds very generic, even if they are demons I would choose a more creative title.

There is a bit more leeway for names of specific creatures but I'd still avoid them because it'll make you seem more creative to people who don't know much about mythology and you won't have to deal with demon nerds who'll try to correct you on irrelevant shit that you intentionally changed to suit your story better.

>>1875231
alright but not as good as smut-master kyle

>>1875058
Thank you kindly anon

>>1874936

Can't belive anyone didn't comment on this - fantastic work! I'd like to see more, or a finished version. Keep it up.

>>1875549

Now that is beautiful!

how do I create a distinctive style?
right now it looks like generic animu and I want something more unique. should I study unique styles, I know several artists who have cool styles like pic related
but my greatest fear is that I'll copy off of them or make a style that's too similar

>>1875691
Just draw. Draw a lot.

>>1875691
>right now it looks like
wheres it

>>1875693
I don't have alot of good pics of my generic animu because I've been avoiding it and drawing more realism and loomising
but here's what I experimented recently
I noticed that the eyes are off, sorry about that

>>1875502
-study life features
-study other artists
and in both cases, "study" means trying to understand the essence of it.
after you understood it, try to find a way to present the things in your own ideal way.

one main problem i can see with your style is that your eyes are way too close together.
as i said, study many other artists.

>>1875691
seriously don't be scared to copy. even if you don't want to copy them, study them in order to understand their work.

>mozart: "It is a mistake to think that the practice of my art has become easy to me. I assure you, dear friend, no one has given so much care to the study of composition as I. There is scarcely a famous master in music whose works I have not frequently and diligently studied. "

do not be afraid to learn from other people. this notion that everything has to come from yourself is bullshit. let yourself get influenced.
look at chickenoppailoli or other artists. you can't really call all their influences, can you? it's impossible to become a carbon copy of another artist anyway.

redline pls?
having issues with big guy's feet

>>1875732
no cumflation/10

Just one of those days when nothing seems to click.

Torsos and hips - I hate them, but not quite as much as I hate faces. My laundry list of shit to practice just keeps growing.

May be busy for the rest of the week, haven't quite decided... will need to do some observational learning...

>>1875732
thats a big guy !

idk does this all look like shit or what

>>1875741
niice stuff , keep working hard.

>>1875768

I find your faces very unappealing.

>>1875778
how do you not know jojo (assuming that style is where its from)

>>1875784

Idgaf, it's ugly to my eyes. Then again I'm not a mango animu faggot so there.

>>1875768
>>1875784
jojo is fucking ugly.
but thats just my opinion.

Any crits on this before I start any sort of serious coloring?

>>1875788
>idgaf

I had to google what that meant. Signs of either I'm getting old or too idgaf to keep up with normie texting lingo. Also underage.

>>1875796
For context, the girl in the alien costume does not have arms, just shoulders and a few inches of her upper arm.

>>1875796
upper arm of girl on right is too short.
Head on girl on left seems to be jutting forward and dislocated slightly downwards, but that might just be me and the helmet working

>>1875802
Ah thanks, I thought her head might have been positioned oddly but I couldn't figure out how.

>>1875579
>>1875498
thanks

>>1875802
>>1875807
Better?

>>1875589
>And the name 'Tokki' is korean for 'Bunny'
Funny you say that, I was just going to suppose you were a clueless weeb who didn't do research on what that name meant in Japanese.
Try google imaging 突起 (tokki).

>>1875231
You got a website where I can see a finished piece? That looks like a damn good value block-in.

Alright guys, where and how did I fuck up? It looks so wonky but staring at it hasn't helped much, redline appreciated but any critique would be great, thanks.

>>1875827

eyes are too close together. unless you're specifically making a character whose eyes aren't that far away from each other, there's usually a much bigger distance between the two.

>>1875827

>>1875823
what the fuck am i supposed to be looking at

>>1874963
Thank you! I liked it too, but the teacher said that they looked like cinabons so I'll save that stylization for future assignments.
Yeah I see what you mean, I think i'll try changing the color of her blanket to a grayer color like the pidgeons.
I was trying to keep the palette unified, but I'll experiment. good feedback!

>>1875825
I dont have any finished pieces- but thanks
heres my empty tumblr, allenlt.tumblr.com
>wow its really nothing

check on my sketch please? been playing with it for a while now but i feel like there's something wrong with it. Do i need to take a break?

any issues ?

ignore the girls in background i havent touch that yet. Can you also tell me whats better them being some popular 2d girls or some anon oc girls. I think if i put some crossover here it will grab attention from miku compositionaly.

>>1876032
Mikufag syndrome. Proportions of the body does not fit the head, giving a jarring look.

>>1876045
it was just slightly too small.

>>1875991
Ignoring chicken scratch city...

Breasts are a too small and tight for the amount if line work given to them. Small breasts don't really have that much form given to them (less spherical and more like a mosquito bite)

The leg anatomy doesnt match the torso. The legs look thick and heavy while the torso is more petite. Beef up the chest or tone down the legs IMO

I was wondering what I can do to make my style fit more.
I don't really like it right now, I feel like the face doesn't fit with the body. but I don't want to make it completely deformed like panty and stocking

I dunno, I want to make porn in the future and I'm not really a fan of those kid cartoons styles taking the dick, doesn't feel right.

I'll post more examples in a min

>>1876088
from irl refs

>>1876089
tried shrinking the body more on the left

>>1876090
what is this funny feeling in my heart

Hey everyone!! this is my first time posting >.< and I wanted to see what you thought about my very first OC. Her name is Naynay. She is a 24yo X-core punk rocker girl that does nothing BUT get into trouble lol! This is still a work in progress and I already spent 3 hrs on it XD Pls critique and tell me what I should change before I continue coloring. Thanks in advance! www

>>1876157
You're not funny. Piss off.

>>1876157
>>.<
>Naynay
>x-core punk rocker girl
>lol!
>XD

aburka durka durka

>>1875828
>>1875898
Thanks.

>>1875797
>I had to google Manatee but had a good laugh afterwards

>>1876088
>>1876089
>>1876090
Your art style is so adorable, i love it

>>1876164
No problem, of course I'll give you my tumblr!
http://uradirtyfilthynigger.tumblr.com/

>>1876291
I think you may have misspelled the url. Nothing there.

>>1876157
this is not the place for you

>>1875110
Awesome style, brah

>>1875827

You are symbol drawing. Eyes are balls with lids over em; they look different with a change in angle. Same goes with the mouth and jaw. Unless you can view them as actual shapes you're fucked.

>>1876157

Every time I see bait like this I feel like kicking the anon who did it. It's like telling a year old joke that everyone has heard of over and over for every fucking day.

>>1876635
That's probably what they want to achieve, most trolls are looking to ruffle some feathers.

So this is my first time posting in one of these threads so here it goes

I'm starting up a comic and this is the first page of it. I'm nowhere near perfect, but I was hoping to use the comic to practice my anatomy (amongst other things). What can I improve on, change, etc. etc.

>>1876722
Everything seems to be ok, but if you look closely, you can spot a nigger character
If little mistakes like this would be removed, everything will look nice

>>1876747
Shit that's it?
Awesome, I guess I'm good then.

>>1876722
Move the hairline up a lot

>>1877077
How much is a lot

>>1877755
About the width of 2-3 of the guy's fingers. No more than four though, othewise you've got a fivehead.

looking for early critique on this render without reference, drawn with pen, painted with Ph

sorry for derp hands, only for the momennt

>>1878028
Thanks dude is there anything else that should be done? Proportions, anatomy, perspective?