/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

It will greatly benefit your skills with rendering as well as light and color but if you don't work on your draughtsmanship as well your work will start to suffer from it. And if you're looking for improvement I would recommend spending more time on your drawing skills before you go pel-mel into master copies.

One hundred one hour studies will benefit you more than one one hundred hour study.

>>1865770
>One hundred one hour studies will benefit you more than one one hundred hour study

was this just your experience or is there some consensus about this in the industry/scene/whatever ?

>>1865800
you don't need a consensus to know that everyone learns differently.
idiot

>>1865803

it's dumb to even reply in threads like this one because this was discussed million times allready but i'll do it anyway.

First off, people like OP fall into art-block, depression or comfort zone so neather me or anyone else can't help them as long as they don't get out of that (and they are the one who much figure how to get out of their problems).

now.. short answer about studies (which apply to styding anything on this planet). If you don't do a study with a purpose, no matter if that is 1 hour study or 100 hours study, you waste your time.
1 hour study WITH PURPOSE is better than 100 hours study without purpose. one 100h study or one hundred studies which take you 1 hour are both benefitial if they have a purpose.
The problem in studies that are longer than ~10h is that you loose focus/purpose and you just keep on copying and fall into details. You get into auto-mode of rendering which is comfort zone - you don't thing.

again.. i can write that every day on /ic, or Tehmeh, or anyone else. As long as you don't figure it out, or better said learn how to study, nobody can't help you with advice

>>1865800
Not him, but that 100 one hour studies are more effective than one 100 hour study is pretty much common sense.

If you work too long on one thing, you don't give yourself any room to fail and learn from it. In art especially you get easily lost in useless details and lose sight of what's important. It's also much more effective to actually learn and memorize something from a shoter study than it is from a very long one. That's just how our brain works. The only way to memorize the same amount from a 10 hour study than you'd memorize from a 1 hour study would be to break that 10 hour study into small 1-2 hour study sessions. Which theoretically would make it 5-10 short studies of the same subject.

simply put: yes, doing lots of inefficient studying is more beneficial to you than not doing anything op. so go copy masters all day.

You can copy your dick off, but if you don't seek an understanding of what you're doing you'll always be mediocre.

>>1865770
actually, when you learn a new skill you should do as much as possible in the first 48 hours. that way our brain remembers a lot better. starting slowly (1 hour per day for a week) is not effective

>>1865810
not op, but then how can I learn to study? are there good resources online? So far what I know of 'study' is you look at an image or existing artwork and you copy it paying close attention what methods and stuff were used?

But how am I supposed to figure out what was used and how I should go about doing the study? Genuine question, pretty much beginner and I want to know so I can improve

>>1865841
How do you copy something without seeking an understanding? Whenever I copy things I'm always thinking of light, perspective, form, etc. Am I missing something here or am I doing it right? Of course with some studying I only focus on line drawing and others I will work on rendering, I just want to know if this is how youre supposed to be thinking when studying. People always say make sure you think about what youre doing but it seems kind of vague.

>>1865800
You need a break to process things you've learned. You may struggle with something one day and find it easy the next morning.

>>1865765
You'll get really good at copying, but if you have any goals besides that you have to start drawing from life and from imagination as well.

>>1865854
>How do you copy something without seeking an understanding?

People do it all the time. People on /ic/ do it all the time. Have you ever tested yourself by drawing a figure without reference? In a pose or angle that you have not specifically seen?

You can do hundreds of life drawings in a studio setting, but that will not give you full knowledge of the range of human motion, which you could learn in a few days with an art or biology book. You could do hundreds of light and shadow studies, but you could learn the mathematical/geometric shadow projection in a few hours.

Artists have been drawing thousands of years, but didn't really figure out perspective until the 1400s when an architect decided to draw buildings on a mirror. This too is something you can learn in a few days when you consult a book.

Obviously, studying is great. But there is a knowledge component to drawing. There is science to it. You shouldn't rediscover those by yourself when that info is already widely available. You also need to understand that copying or studies have their limits. You won't be able to see how muscles interact with each other when all you do is draw people standing still. There's a reason art progressed a lot along with the invention of photography and film. There are physical limits to what we can perceive.

are ya Asian or what!?