/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1845559
Reposting...
Do his legs look a little too short to anyone else?

>>1845585
Not really, no.

>>1845585
i like the binary tool usage.

the soft edges of your shadows are kind of unappealing when used en masse. throw some hard edges in and it might look better.

facial construction is a little off, the nose is flat (I think). either way it's just a little wonky.

I can't into watercolors. Halp

>>1845084
source?

Back from vay-cay, just one draw tonight

>Not a fan of the yellow I chose, should have stuck with good old red/purple
>next time ellipse tool instead of free hand
>need to work on shiney surfaces
>still working on inking. I do this thing where I web hard angles between surfaces. I feel like it looks better...

>>1845713
Paint over in red, we full ironwoman now

Enough turd polishing, moving on!

>>1845729
very nice

cirno

>>1845729
somehow I liked it better in black and white? I think your color choices are kind of bad. Your use of perspective is great though, those be some nice lokin elipses. cool design and nice style

haven't posted in this thread in a while

these threads

>>1846072
adorable, ain't it?

>>1846049
and maybe its best if you dont post at all

>>1845713
>>1845729

Personally I love the color. Very out there.

>>1846049
welcome back. I think the legs are too thick. They are as wide as her hips.

>>1846049
Don't cover the corner of that far eye.

>>1846072
more like this

>>1846072
So cute.

Yeah! Faces!

>>1846109
isn't it weird that we find baby animals cuter than babies. i mean a kitten is soo much cuter than a baby the baby doesn't seem cute at all.

out near my place in the country there was a stray cat that i had to shoot. it was a gimpy thing with patches of fur missing which had nothing more on it's mind than fucking my house cat and killing my chickens. but i swear to you that that poor motherfucker was cuter than a human baby.

it's an odd thing, it's the only reason i believe lolicons really aren't pedophiles. those things they jack-off too look more like kittens than babies.

cuteness appreciation has got to be some kind of weird evolutionary biproduct.

>>1846108
did he died?

To finish or not to finish?

>>1846114
There are proportions that give a perception of cute, we may draft the same proportions to be used in our work. All new offspring including animals share a common proportion and we react with emotion and immediately wish to care and nurture.

>>1846116
The table is doing okay, I hope.

>>1846114
First off, the maternal instinct to protect young individuals is not a biproduct, just a product of evolution that is completely logical, and not weird at all. It is a surviving trait because it's successful at stopping death. The things that we instinctively react to are fairly universal among greater animals. Animals will protect young. Selective breeding has made household pets into more in line with some facet of attraction to breeders. It is not entirely uncommon to not think babies are that cute, but once you get some estrogen pumping by getting one your emotions tend to change.

>>1846114

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

>>1846049
I can tell you're trying to work with an extreme perspective. But the largeness of her head is throwing the whole balance off, even when you take into account that animu heads are oversized.

so make her head smaller, and adjust the angle of the head, it looks awkward, the way it's hiding the neck.

>>1846049
what the fuck are her hip bones doing

>>1846126
but it doesn't have anything to do with protecting the young, i shot that cute cat after all.

and it still doesn't explain why a cat is cuter than a baby.

i think we assume it has something to do with parental instinct because it's logical, but the assumption falls apart in the details.

i think, and i hope you can follow my reasoning here (and if you can you're a ninja at following reasoning) it has more to do with cherubs.

>>1845576

>>1846116
The dude became paraplegic

>>1846120
Do want

>>1845953
>>1846099
I tend to pick over saturated colors cause I get all excited seeing them as test patches. I'll try to tone it down tonight and see how it goes

>>1846049
Are those mega hips or just normal womanly hips? If normal, foreshorten the torso more, we shouldn't be seeing so much of it from this angle

>>1846100
b-but i like thighs

What do you fellas think about InCase?

For my first time drawing in such a perspective I sure did bungle it, how do I make this look less like a malformed ten year old?

>>1846172
I already gave you the right answer, but you think it's wrong because you shot a cat? It's not an assumption, it's a fact. If you mean to say that very recent modern human depictions as cherubs even belongs in this conversation i have to question your sanity. Finally, let me point out that you think your feelings are even just a tiny bit important in a general discussion about this. It isn't. The vast majority of people think babies are cute, Just because you don't doesn't change that.

>>1846120
holy shit, anon. please finish

>>1846380
The head is gigantic

>>1846380
You only really get those proportions from a very wide angle lens. Try more overlapping shapes than just increasing the size of them. Remember if the head is coming at you than it would be overlapping the torso in some way

What can I do to improve my lineart? This has taken way too long.

>>1846445
looks ok..

it's just one of those things that takes practice.

like if you recall learning to drive a car..at first you need to remember the gear, remember to look into the window, steer carefully etc. but after a while, a few months, you're not even aware of those things, the car basically becomes an extension of the driver, same thing happens with lines.

>>1846454
i meant the rear-view mirror not the window lol..i think most people can handle that part right off the bat.

Easily my worst job coloring, dark markers = Really fucking dark.

Also, subject was too small to add shinies. On a downhill slump now...

>>1846511
>worst coloring
it doesn't make the whole idea of a robot "woman" with tits and huge ass any worse

>>1846518
Sorry, I was watching batman, and I had cat woman on my mind. For some reason, all the cat woman pix always make her extra curvy. I guess it leaked into my subconscious...

Also I had to give her Virtual On eyes or she'd look like some furry-mecha chimera - it was weird...

I need a quick clarification. When someone "needs more Loomis," are they referring to what's in Figure Drawing for All It's Worth, one of the other books, or just all of them in general?

>>1846526
At this point it means just studying in general.

need to make the robot on the left look like it's being electrocuted
don't really know how to show that without it being animated

>>1846543
nvrmind, I got it, danks 4 nuttin, /ic/

>>1846587
no problem, always a pleasure to help people :')

>>1845576
did Teal post in these thread?

>>1846595
no

>>1846595
He used to.

>>1846652
Ah, the good ol'days.

:(

>>1846655
Okay so what have you done since then? Have you followed up with the advice he left us?

>>1846657
who's teal?
what advice they leave us with?

>>1846380

MAAAAAKE

AAAA

BOUNDING BOX

every time you fucks try to do something like that you don't work out the bounding box first which is like the scaffolding on which you construct the rest of the figure

>>1846670
http://imgur.com/a/WJSIp

>>1846389
>>1846395
Thanks. More kinda like this?

>>1846648
>>1846652
OP's image seemed like smth Teal would draw.
Man I missed him, at least he corrected me a few times

>>1846696
tfw when you were never bad enough to get a correction from seal

>>1846696
But he did draw that. Those are one of his own drawings that wasn't a redline.

>>1846696
It is by teal
It is not from last thread.

OP just got one of teal's arts and posted it to confuse people. what a douche.

>>1846700
>implying
He corrected me this one tho i.imgur.com/L0jatuv.jpg
At that time I couldnt even imagine that pose in another angle.
Does anybody know where is he now? is he really on /co/?

>>1846705
probably, this boards got it's head up it's arse with photorealistic pop art.

>>1846700

>>1846726
Kek'd.

>>1845576
anyone knows teal's tumblr?

>>1846700

>>1846674

>>1846789
iS THAT THING LAYING FRIED EGGS?

>>1846853
i thought they were doughnaughts

>>1846789
>60

You've been counting all of those.

>>1845585
The arms look too long. The head is a little big looking too but I guess it's all because of that puff on his shoulder

>>1846789
oh dear god, what is that thing? Please keep working on this.

>>1845576
>>1845576
like the work op.

>>1846677
It looks like we're looking at him at eye level like he's standing in front of us.

>>1846857

That thumb looked like ebola-chan. Dear God, I don't want /pol here

>>1846677
He has two left hands.

>>1846865
Why contain it?

How do I get good? I ask this every couple of weeks. I do gesture drawings and then studies. I watch Vilppu videos daily. How should I spend my time, like Gestures, daily drawings etc then get crits every now and then to force growth?

>>1846789
EPICTROLL GO AWAY

I don't draw often. It's a rare occasion when I do. And I never frequent here, so go easy on me, will ya?

>>1846874
I know there are many different opinions on here but here's what worked for me. Use google images, youtube or whatever site you want with lots of random pictures. Fill pages up with quick 2 minute drawings of anything interesting you see. It doesnt matter if they look bad at first, you have to fail to improve. Draw things that interest you. Keep doing this for a few hours everyday and in a couple of weeks you will definitely see improvement.

>>1846899
At least flip your fucking picture I swear to fucking god these newfags are getting more and more lazy.

>>1846511
>too small to add shinies
invest in white gel pen

>>1846902
It is saved vertically, it just happened that it uploaded horizontally for some random reason.

>>1846899
there you go... apologies.

Posting before I get banned again.

>>1846932
that's not how wings or faces work
you need to restructure out the face more, an you needa realize wings fall into perspective just like the rest of the body

>>1846935
Is it the chin? What part of the face needs more work?

>>1846906
>>1846902
Sometimes the phone saves rotation metadata that you have to delete. If you do a partial rotation and resave it, the save should delete it. Then rotate it back to portrait and save it again.

Usually works for me on iOS, but some other anons claim it's still goofy for them.

>>1846932
Why do you get banned, though?

>>1846945
Because I added an extra part for someone on /pol/ and it might have hurt someone's feelings.

>>1846946
And I always get banned for the dumbest reasons.

>>1846904
Stole some whiteout pens from work, will these work as an interim solution?

>>1846948
yikes hide that IP

>>1846948
Next time, don't go full retard. Blank your IP address.

>>1846966
holy fuck you are retarded

>>1846966
Yes sir.
>>1846968
Don't tell him.

>>1846120
what the fuck is going on here, it looks so awkward an confusing

don't get me wrong, your colors are gorgeous, your grasp of form seems okay (those boobs are wonk as fuck tho), but the pose an the composition so far is just baffling, I have no idea what this is other than an exoskeleton I think?

work on posing an silhouettes (by that, I mean making things read clearly)

>>1846900
Ok thank you!

I am trying to fill a sketch book per month.

I don't draw using bases.. Is this a bad thing in the long run?
(I don't know whats going on with his traps or the edge of his chest on the right arm)

This is a picture from March

>>1846989
holy fucking chicken scratch

lern2gesture, and then work on the number of things that is wrong with that picture

>mikufag leaks his own IP

I hope you have dynamic IP you dingus

>>1846999
What I can see looking at it is... The biceps and forearms are uneven... I don't know what I was doing with the traps.... The face and head is sorta crooked...The placing of the mouth is crooked and the eyes don't line up... The way the arms are coming off from the chest is bad...

Can you give me your take on what exactly is wrong? Besides just saying I should learn how to gesture

>>1846966
>>1847000
>>1846948
>>1846955

Maybe he just want to make 4chan art friends but can't say it. :(

>>1846932
Wings should be attached to hip bone, and should follow the tilt of the hips, so tilted the other way.

When you have low wings attached to shoulderblade (which is what the current tilt implies), it is unstable and creates a lot of torque on the joint to the shoulder.

>>1847028
Thanks wings look better now tilted the other way and what about the face can you please address any problems with it?

>>1846946
you're not one of those red pilled right wing neo nazi wanna be fags are you miku?

sorry for posting a request, I'm looking for the "if you want to be abel to draw this, you need first to study this." image with the k-on charactes (?) and the anatomical sketch on the other side? :/

>>1847046
idk, it looks fine to me. I wasn't >>1846935

>>1845729
Color is not the problem. You have highlights everywhere.

Don't just put highlights on every edge. Highlights are a specular (like mirror) reflection.

Pretend there is a mirror tangent to the surface, and imagine if you could see the light source in that mirror. That would be where you place the highlight.

>>1846932
why the fuck are you drawing wings on an ass? looks fucking stupid. imagine her flying with ass in the air and body just hanging. i'm surprised you didn't put wings on her chest, considering how smart you are.
watch this http://youtu.be/QNuuYe2BgII

>>1847053
No, but I love /pol/ they make me laugh a lot. It was only a penis because someone wanted a futa ebola-chan.

>>1847101

>>1847101
What's wrong with wings on ass?

>>1847101
>wings on back
>not wings on center of mass for maximum mobility
kek

Having an issue with line quality, and also the pose in the back.
hope it's not too nsfw

a redline or any advice would be much appreciated

>>1847160
i really don't think humans could fly with either configuration. i prefer it on the back just because it looks really lame otherwise.

>>1847166
you look really lame

>>1847166
actually now that i think about it i like the butt wings but on a stupid comic relief type of demon or whatever. like danny devito.

why is this animeshit so fucking difficult holy shit. I thought I was gonna buy a tablet and draw cute girls but fuck me.

>>1847173
Animu still requires fundamentals. You'll get the hang of it, draw more Loomis.

>>1847175
But I'm confident about the fundamentals, I've been doing the fundamentals for over a decade. It's just so much more difficult than traditional art. It's killing me.

>>1847176
That's what happens to every faggot who thinks all they need is Loomis.
Even Loomis drew cartoons as often as he drew naturalism, that's why he was good at both.

>>1847176
Draw more and be patient and remember to use your shoulder when you draw.

>>1847178
What I meant to say was go over Loomis, and pick up his knowledge and then use everything you learned onto anything you draw including Animu.

>>1847173
Not sure what your problem even is, I'd totally fuck her or strangle her or whatever. If drawing cute girls is your goal you've already succeeded and can only get better from here.

>>1847173
Add neck and shoulders.
Floating heads are kowai yo

>>1847185
>Floating heads are kowai yo

Not sure if copying counts, but here are mine

>>1847190
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>1847190
upside down/10

>>1847106
>futa

deserved it

>>1847173
>>1847176
It doesn't matter how long, it's how good of a grasp you have on them. Assuming that you do have a good level, try remembering the knowledge that it takes to create the form and morph it by analyzing the proportions of the art that you aim to draw like. Otherwise, if your fundamentals aren't as strong as you claim, you should practice/analyze more on form. It's good to "feel" the form, or as Vilppu likes to put it, "420 blaze it faggit". Another aspect to consider is varying line weight/quality which also is rooted in the fundamentals.

These are the things I consider for myself very important to study, especially when considering how the medium places a great importance on lines.

For the picture I include, I did my best to implement what I've said, though I'm sorry if my skills can't match up with my advice. As a quick thing to note, consider how I treat the hair as forms (it's more clear if you examine the top of the head). If your heads are good, then don't forget that hair has form too.

>>1847176
>I've been doing the fundamentals for over a decade
>still chicken scratching

Nigga please

>>1847279
Hi Asanagi

>>1847162
plz

inking.
more shit in
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>>1847497
>showing blog when nobody asked for it

How bad am I doing it?

>>1847497
What are you using to do your inking?

>>1847504
rottring pens for that
digital for this

>>1847509
the composition is nice an the colors are pleasing
the inkin in this isn't anything to write home about, but you did good
great job/10

>>1847162
why don't you have a seat right over there.

>>1847515
thanks
this is only pencil and digital color

>>1847517
those are midgets, not children

>>1846049

>>1847529
mm hm. okay... keep telling yourself that.

>>1846445

>>1847532
>>1847546
please stop. you have absolutely no clue about what you're doing.

>>1847546
>>1847532
The fixes are okay but not good enough to warrant your self-titled name. Remove trip to look less like an egotistical

>>1846677

>>1847556
That goes to you as well.

>>1846932

Blind leading the dumb

>>1847565
Oh look another way of how not to do it

>>1847565
Stop you're embarrassing yourself

>>1847565

>all this whining.
Even if it's not perfect, seeing another process is still valuble to beginners.

Hopefully you guys will redline his bluelines and then we'll get threads full of corrections like the japs have. Better than an art thread full of text corrections

>But he might steer the beginners wrongly!

Beginners mostly have no problem seeing if someone else's art is shit, they're just blind to their own mistakes. Why not encourage more corrections by folks in here? It's not we can't go read the sticky too.

>>1847571

>>1847578
>>1847571
You too

Instead of complaining about somebody else's corrections, make your own. Easy to talk shit when you can't get hit.

Don't get me mistaken though, if something's bad then it's fine to call it how it is. However leaving a comment "just shit" is a lazy cop out. This is (/ic/ - Artwork/Critique) not (/ic/ - Artwork/Comments) something I believe this board has had a growing problem with. It's harder to explain why something is off and even harder to demonstrate better. I believe the option that has you drawing more will be the better choice in the end. It's a good indicator of what one must work on and a good challenge to see if you can actually follow your own critique to improve an artwork.

>>1847574
Shut the fuck up, you're not teal. You don't know what's best for anons. Please post some of your own shit, so we can all see how truly shit you are. You're not teal, bitch.

>>1847594
you shut the fuck up. Its people like you who stops any contribution to those threads.

>>1847595
> implying these threads aren't cancer in its purest form

>>1847574
>Even if it's not perfect, seeing another process is still valuble to beginners.
No, seeing correct processes is helpful to beginners.
>Beginners mostly have no problem seeing if someone else's art is shit, they're just blind to their own mistakes.
Since when? I certainly didn't posses this ability when I started, and no one I know has either. Developing a critical eye takes time and is not something that you just have or don't have, and certainly not something newbies possess.
>Why not encourage more corrections by folks in here?
Sure would like to see some instead of someone just scribbling over other people's work with their own mistakes.

>>1847595
Plz post your own work. I'm actually curious.

>>1847608
no you.

I keep churning out tons of thumbnails often unsatisfied and indecisive, quite frankly, I'm tired and want to have something before the end of the month. I pushed some thumbnails and wondering what you guys like the most so that I could start doing something. crits, ideas and changes are also welcome.

>>1847571

>>1847620

>>1847620
But that would make the eye too high up.

>>1847616

>>1847620
Better or worse?

>>1847632
Eyes are too close together, mouth is too high up.

>>1847632
Even Seventh Day Adventist think ur stuff is boring and stiff

>>1847632
>being this bad

>>1847623
i wouldn't have put the eye there if it wasn't where I thought it should be
squint your eyes an look at it again

>>1847632
nose is too high (hopefully you know to adjust the mouth too)
put the eye, mouth, nose back where I had it, but keep the rotations you added, I only do corrections in mspaint, can't into rotation

>>1847621
fuck you, mom, you can't tell me what to do

Thread Autism Level: Critical

>>1847637
Pfeh, ameture. I could do bettwe with my feet.

Hehe well here's the reference if it helps anyone play with my face some more.

>>1847650
Now it looks like "it was me, Dio".

>>1847650
>jpg artifacts
eyes too large, nose too small :^)

>>1847594
Woah, buddy. I'm just saying. More art, less talk.

>post your work
>>posting art in an argument on /ic/

You win, anon. I'm checkmated. Still, try to think on my suggestions a little bit. There's pretty much no downside to relaxing the redline standards a little bit.
/ic/ is not a hugbox, so I enthusiastically agree with how we fuck people's art in the ass with barbwire dildoes--but I want to encourage more visual critique on the art critique board.

The anons doing the redlines will learn as well.

>>1847653
thanks for the fap material

>>1847571

>>1847712

bing bing bing

>>1847656
>that nose is now totally fucked
eyes are better now tho

>>1847712

>>1847571
You need to make it more kawaii! Here let me show you

>>1847763
LOL That is so funny and epic

>>1847571
is this a new may may in the making?

>>1847763

>>1847763
2spooky

>>1847774
thisisfun

>>1847785
>>1847787
>>1847780
>>1847774
What's the point of these?

>>1847744
Kek'd hard

>>1847792
I was jus trynna lazily help someone by movin shit around in mspaint an then I accidentally destroyed this thread ;-;

>>1847809
Good job

>>1847815
i will never help anyone ever again

Please crit her head. She will have cat ears later.

>>1847571
The lack of JoJo is disappointing.

>>1847816
No way, please do, this thread just got really great again.

>>1847816
I didn't mean anything mean by 'good job'. Any help in threads in appreciated, /ic/ just gets distracted easily.

creating a new art style based on anime, what do you guys think?

>>1847842
>>1847858
oh, I was jus playin/jokin
I will still help those who I can

>>1847820
you got the slants, make sure to flip your image regularly

best advice I can give is study photo refs to build up your skills, THEN when you wanna go flashy, look at your favorite artists an how they do things an compare those things they do to photo refs an break down how they simplified/abstracted things to create the forms they did. IT IS SO VERY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you learn the basics first so that you can look at stylized images an be able to tell if they're makin mistakes or not. you don't wanna study the style quirks of something that is making a mistake (at least not without understanding how/why the artist chose to deviate in such a way)

mini tips relevant to what you're goin for at the moment (a head facin straight forward)
- flip it to make sure you ain't got the slants (you got the slants)
- avoid perfect symmetry tho, makes shit look stiff an wack. seriously, mouths are never symmetrical, they don't read properly if they are
- eyebrows
-

>>1847873
>best advice I can give is study photo refs
>photo refs
>not life drawing
Explain yourself.

>>1847820
I totally know what I'm doing.

>>1847872
I think the pizza-slice style will be the next big thing!

>>1847884
life drawin is da best all around, especially for anatomy, poses, lightin an perspective, because gesture an shit, but you don't gesture sublties of the face, it's kinna awkward/impractical (price/time wise) to pay/find someone to sit in front of you an look perfectly straight forward for an hour or so while you draw their head. or to study the variations of commonalities between different head shapes.

is it best to learn from life drawin, yeah, hell yeah
is it efficient for your time or money tho? nah
for what you need in terms of variety an time, photorefs nudge it out in my opinion

>>1847873
Oh. I didn't read this until after >>1847885, sorry about that. Thanks for the advice!

How's my Sundowner?

>tfw by the time people give you advice and/or redlines you already started coloring

>>1847913
It's a real downer.

Who would like to share with me their story about how they wanted to draw stylized work but couldn't draw for crap, so they came to /ic/, read the sticky, took anon's advice, read books, studied photos, drew from life, learned all the fundamentals, drew crap that they never wanted to draw, and practiced until their brain went numb until they could draw a cute anime girl well? I would love to hear that story.

>>1847930
A story like that doesn't exist buddy

>>1847931
Darn, I was afraid of that. Then how did all the gud artists here achieve it? Anyhow, I guess I'm the one who gets to create that story...shit.

>>1847937
How about a story about when I fertilized your mommy's eggs? That one is my favorite.

>>1847925
I chuckled. What do you think needs fixing, though?

>>1847954
Everything, you need better anatomy and lighting. And perspective, draw from challenging angles

>>1847959
Alright, thanks.

>>1847913
More like sun down syndrome

Jesus fuck, such a fail today. Haha it's so bad, I kinda don't want to post it, but I will anyways, cause I deserve some butt hurt.

Tried to do quantity over quality today, quality = shit, but I did learn a few things...

>white pencil on copics - not so great
>copics over graphite pencil - worst idea ever
>pose #7, the ref didn't have a head, it's probably because it's fucking impossible to draw
>by draw #8 and #9 I was so burned out and discouraged from #7, I just bit the curb
>found a Fabre-castle brush pen, it's 10x better than Sakura brush pen.
>will probably do my inking like #5 and #10 from now on
>didn't draw faces all week, fucking forgot everything I might have learned

Back to the grind

>>1847930
The true story is a bunch of faggots vaguely studied proportions and maybe some perspective and then spent a year grinding out autismal how to draw more manga tier shit until it looked less shit.

>>1848010
very bad coloring imho
the basics teach you to treat each surface as a simple geometric object and light accorgingly, but you took it too far
utilize warm or cold colors to shade or light

>>1847930
It doesn't work like that. You draw what you want to draw and by simply drawing more you'll eventually get better at it.

mikufag getting BTFO

>>1848059

wip

>>1848069
Nice line quality. Well, that's about it.

>>1848066
this one is qt.

>>1846853
>>1846856

it's obviously titshit

>>1848069
with the size of the bed it looks like she is over 2,2 meter high.

>>1847930
reading books really isn't the way to learn to draw
I skimmed loomis back when I first started takin draws seriously an christ did that man draw a lot of unappealing shit, so I just went an studied on my own, an it was all shit until I had a friend who was really good at art told me two things.

1. you gotta make sure what you draw reads, if what you're drawing can't be easily an instantly understood, it's not gonna work (except in very rare cases where you're like intentionally tryin to confused the viewer)

2. everything can be broken down into shapes, an they showed me this by breaking down a drawing of hellboy into like five rectangles an a large D shaped piece for the chest

you do gestures to learn proportions an pose (this is your blocky block phase)

then you do specific detail studies (this is your learnin how shit falls on top of whatever your underlyin structure is)

Perspective comes into play here, but I've understood perspective since 6th grade, it's a lot of simple math an geometry tricks, so I guess I got that out of the way way before I did anything else.

Proper stylization then comes from the understandin an manipulation of these principals.

You can't easily mess with proportions till you know the underlyin ratios you gotta hold so that the drawing still feels right.
You gotta know the underlyin musculature to understand how to properly curve your forms, which lines should cut other lines off (the deltoid/pectoral line onto the arm bein a common mistake many beginners majorly beef on), even with very minimalist styles.

That quote by that guy who draws the really creepy things holds very true. Gotta know the rules so you can break em.

tl;dr, loomis sux, get lucky an have a good art friend give you some simple advice that manages to give you direction in your studies

>>1848096
Nice copypasta m8
>>1848093
> not being 3 meters high
420 blaze it bruv :^)

>>1848100
copypasta?

>>1848093
guess you mean tall

thanks, I seriously didn't see this

it's sun wu kong but sexy

>>1847792
for giggles and shits

>>1848149
now draw tripitaka as an old priest instead of a sexy woman

>>1848149
it's just a girl with the tail of an ape. nothing there to suggest she is sun wukong.

>>1848159
person with monkey tail (apes don't have tails) and a quarter-staff.

that's pretty much wukong..except for the crown that gets tight which is a pretty big part of the character, so i guess you have a point.

>>1848162
>>1848159
i've never read journey to the west so i'unno

>>1848165
Dragonball was originally heavily based off Journey to the West, so if you know that, it's similar kinna sorta

I did this.

>>1848186
And these.

>>1848162
the illustrations of wukong i have seen show a lot of animal features, like a monkey face, hair everywhere(face, arms, legs, body), claws, etc.

>>1848169
have you seen the original design of son goku? because the original design looks much more like wukong. the version in the manga/anime turned him pretty much into a human.

pic related: left is the original son goku, based on wukong, right is the normal son goku

>>1848190
and here is an illustration from 1889 depicting wukong

>>1848191
>he is a monkey born from a stone who acquires supernatural powers through Taoist practices

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong

ffs people do at least some research on your subject before you draw it...
also great for inspiration

pic is from the 19th century

>>1848186
>ballsack as a hair

>>1848010
Last time I tried a Faber-Castell brush pen it was hella awful to work with (because the felt tip couldn't do thin lines anymore after just a few sketches), so if you used something worse until now it's no wonder your inking was bad.
Either concentrate on other aspects first or get some proper inking tools like a Pentel pocket brush or dip nibs (G pens are what Mangaka tend to use).

Pure white tends to flatten things so I'd recommend being careful with them, but colored pencils over marker can work pretty well (to add subtle color variation for example, or even shading), lots of artists do it. I mean it's not really neccessary for you considering the amount of markers you got, but it might be fun to play around with either way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4dGGBsJHwU&list=UUCPBOQlEtTmzhzuKfznxEIA&index=31

>>1847010
He's saying you should get to a point where you can properly create a human figure and manipulate it before asking for help. Instead of highlighting individual, situation specific issues, he's informing you that you simply do not yet have the proper knowledge or experience to create such a figure in a satisfactory manner. If you did, you would have learned what was necessary to improve you general skill level.

Do not take his dismissal as a mere placeholder, he is very much correct in his assessment.

>>1848261
>would
*wouldn't

>>1847162
I get a feeling that the woman is in a different perspective from the boy fucking her or the boy is tilted in a very unnatural way, of course he is lower than her but it feels like the thing she is lying on
is tilted or something, i cant clearly explain it since i am pretty bad at it too, but that's what i get from watching it, it's not that distracting though.

>>1848269
yes there is something off in that picture of a giant woman fucking a bunch of babies

>>1847785
Why don't you draw more creepy shit? You're really good at it.

Someone post link to kyle's HF please.

Made my own One Piece character.

>Name: Curly Mo

>Age: 22

>Devil Fruit Power: Mass Mass Fruit — The user is able to change the surface mass of an object he is touching. The user has to be touching the object for the effect to work.

>Weapons: Balloons which he inflates and keeps on a string around his neck. He shapes them into various weapons he thinks up on the spot and uses the power of his fruit to make them hit with the force of iron. The balloons are light to his touch which makes him able to swing huge weights without breaking a sweat.

>Bio: His father used to be a mime until he died (or some other sad backstory) — from then on it was Curly’s dream to spread cheer and joy to others across the world.

>>1848316
Autism/10

>>1848318
Nothing autistic about it, friend.

>>1848019
>utilize warm or cold colors to shade or light
Could you extrapolate a bit more on this?

>>1848241
Bought a pocket brush pen at the art store just now, we'll see how this goes.

Cool video, made me realize I forgot to buy white gel pen...

>>1848327
not that dude, but he's saying to use warmer colors for lighter things in the picture, and cooler colors for shadows and such

>>1848319
>making fanfic characters complete with bios from other people's fictional worlds
>not autistic
who are you trying to fool here?

>>1848319
>posting about your shit OC no one cares about
>on the art board

there is everything autistic about it.

>>1848333
Ah ok, gonna power through a bunch of busts today, head to waist. Kinda excited, but hoping I don't burn out, and fall asleep. I'll try to incorporate some of these tips.

>>1846989
This is very good, you're on to something. Just work on gesture/anatomy. Chicken scratch is okay, its like a draft for a English paper. Just make it's clean and neat when you turn it in.

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through years of research into the biological effect of dissociative drug application.

Over an extended course of time, the drugs ability to temporary limit the overall use of resources internally has allowed me personally through tissue
stimulation to alter the basic structure of the interior of my sinus cavity. Upon relating this information, with an interest in trying to get across
the legitimacy of this as a medical discovery, I recently attempted to contact the White House, thinking in the circumstances that if the information
was related to someone in a better position to distribute it, some response might occur in the medical community.

Instead I've found that all products containing dextromethorphan in my surrounding area have suddenly had the dextromethorphan removed. This is an
obvious and simplistic verification of the information that has been shared, but rather than instituting some method of distribution to improve
the circumstances for constituents, has resulted in a blockade of an important medical discovery. I urge you to read over and judge for yourselves. While
certain content in the letter expresses personal religious views, the bio information is all solid and tested, and the response taken by the administration
to block the information from distribution is something I take as a personal affront.

I urge you yourselves to attempt to find dextromethorphan containing products, and should you find the dissociative drug absent, question why an
administration would tactically work towards the removal of an important medical substance immediately following a letter (not the first, but clearly
the last) regarding this important discovery.

Letter is shared word for word as sent to the White House website.

Copy saved on date in personal email.
Letter: brucevain.blog.com

>>1848327
this is an extreme example may be

>>1847162
Do you have a blog or a gallery?

>>1848316
did a fan art sketch of your guy.

>>1848327
Torrent Schoolism - Designing with Color and Light with Nathan Fowkes, its the best thing i have found to get you started with color and light,
after that you could read Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter, you could do it first but i think that nathan fowkes one is more beginner friendly.

>>1848010
What do you use the gorilla tripod for?

>>1848096
>perspective is just geometry tricks and math
Wtf?

>then you do specific detail studies (this is your learnin how shit falls on top of whatever your underlyin structure is)
>loomis sux

Good luck there buddy

>>1848346
Chicken scratching is never okay, it means you are drawing from the wrist and obviously haven't done enough gesture. Try making a form with a single stroke and if it's off try again until you can train your arm to make proper lines. It will save you so much time in the future

>>1848361
Saved

>>1848379
I'll check out the Nathan fowkes sometime, don't usually torrent much. I have the Realist Painter, but when I flipped through it before, I was only on line work, and had not graduated to values, I'll dump it in the bathroom for light reading

>>1848382
Holds ipad, which has all my refs and /ic since I sit at the table and not at a computer - also used for real camera shit when I go outside...

>>1848327
Also pocket brush pen is a tool made by the gods. That single hair that sticks out of the end, I hope it never dies.

>>1848379

are the shoolism courses on gfx or cgpeers

what was the other one that was strictly value and lightning

>>1848408
http://cgpeers.com/torrents.php?id=37379&torrentid=37305#torrent37305
Don't know about the others, this one is excellent about color and light though.

>>1848384
trig an geometry, son, loomis actually touches on these box things in his books

you can play with proportion, stretchin it an shit, but you can't fuck with underlyin anatomy (the ways muscles wrap the skeleton an flex/relax), or else it looks uggo

loomis is terrible at teachin because he takes 20 or so pages to tell you somethin you could learn from a leaflet because he can't stop fuckin writing words. if you don't value your time then I guess this isn't a problem, but if I'm gonna read, I'd rather it be short or enjoyable (honestly, both).

>>1848361
This has nothing to do with colour of light. The effect in the pic is called sub surface scattering, where light penetrates the outer layer of skin and gets reflected back by material below. It's red because your insides are red and so is the reflected light.

>>1848417
Trig and geometry is about formulas and functions, even though they deal with shapes, you don't need a lick of geometry or trig to understand perspective.

I read everything I can and soak in as much as I can. I don't see how reading is an issue, but I read pretty quickly.

Just starting out trying to get better /ic/ any pointers?

>>1848435
>reflected
you don't know what that word means, do you?

>>1848439
>crash bandicoot
>bad handwriting
Is this drawing from 1996?

>>1848437
I never really focused on the formulas, but rather the visual representations behind what these numbers meant.
Do I need to know these parts of trig/geometry to understand perspective? Not in the slightest. But it did make it a hell of a lot easier to think about shapes in 3d space.

an I also love soakin in as much knowledge/entertainment/art/whatever as possible, which is why I have a penchant for shorter, more efficient things. nothin against longer things like novels an such, just I can read more short stories in that same amount of time. shorter things also have more room to experiment usually. but I'm gettin away from the point. the more efficient a tutorial/reference material is, the quicker I can take in it's information an move onto somethin else.

>>1848439
shouldn't have drawn the deltoid muscle connectin to the pectoral as properly, now we know you're drawin bad on purpose

>>1848376
>Fan art better than the original art

I'm okay with this. Love what you did with the character. The suit's a great idea too.

>>1848449
Also, you don't have to read loomis you can learn a lot just by studying his breakdowns. before you say so many other masters already have anatomy and figure references, everyone of them does it in their own style and the more you learn from different sources the better you are at developing your own style. I have never met an artist senior to me that ruled out a certain master for learning.

>>1848376
Can you recommened any guides which have helped you? I like your art style.

>>1848417

So I just have to follow the 45/45 and 30/60 triangle guidelines?

>>1848463
He straight up jacked his shit from tumblr. Here's where your gonna do, click on type. Tap tumbler dot com and scroll down and copy the fuck out of that what you see before you come here wasting everyone's time trying actually learn how the skills work :)

>>1848467
What the fuck are you on about?

drew a cute with some crayola markers almost as old as me. They were a pain to use and crystals were growing on the green. But I like the way dry ink can be layered so nicely.

>>1848472
Is that for an animated movie your working on?

>>1848472
uh, no? Its just a doodle

>>1848458
truth, I don't mean to say that he doesn't have worth, but in my journey of artistic fun times, loomis didn't really serve much use, so I guess when I say loomis sux, I'm only really speakin for myself. he really pushes a lot of things I don't like in the medium, like overtly stiff men an women who all have the same proportions, so I guess it's a good example of while havin a neat box of tricks like he does is hella useful, bein too rigid in your construction results in your art being... well, too rigid

>>1848464
nah, see, if you envision each joint as the center of a circle, you can then use trig to help with foreshortening, which, while tricky, can be combined with perspective boxes to get some real neat depth pushin visuals (also very useful for animation)
also that 30/60 is more a 23/67

>>1848476
When does Doodle come out?

>>1848411

the other one I was looking for was advanced lighting with sam nielson, thanks anyways anon

>>1848480

but who was phone?

>>1848366.
sure
http://mandie-b.tumblr.com

>>1848316

Oh hey, for you guys who were talking about VeraMundis in the last thread, I realized how has similar art style to his: Zaggatar. He tends to drift towards more of a pornographic stance and he also too is a furry, unforunately.

He's got that clay like texture VeraMundis has on his characters.

http://zaggatar.tumblr.com

Wow, these threads had lost a lot of quality lately. Lot of you guys need to go to the beginner thread you know

>>1848670
Yeah wow my completely halfassed shadow completely goes against her actual pose. I'm way too tired for this shit.

>>1848670
Chiaki seems to be holding her PSP downwards and away from the viewer.

Got distracted halfway through the day. Today's quality I think is better than yesterday.

Pentel pocket brush is the boss.

Will attempt coloring tomorrow

>>1848708
Your faces are already getting a lot better, aside from the lopsided one on 4. Great work!

>>1848708
The faces on 3 and 4 are pretty jank, man.

>>1846543
I like it

>>1848463
im noone you should listen to but if you want to then
The standard sticky ones and then copy a lot of your fav artists. drawing things in 360 degrees is cool too. But its the best when someone points out the mistakes you make that you are not aware of. Those threads tought me about balancing the figure and that everything has to make a purpose in image.

>>1848716
>>1848720
60% yield, we'll see how long it lasts! I seem to draw with pretty high variance

New Thread:

>>1848844
>>1848844
>>1848844

>>1847792
Drawing and Fun at the same time. Have you ever tried it out?