/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

these again.

>>1807281
this is fucking awesome! do you have a blog or tumblr? I'd like to see more of your work
are you an illustrator? is this for a childrens book?

>>1807283
thanks. I'm planning to make a book about this, still some work left with my writer before we can start. I'm actually a designer, but this is fun.

You can find me from tumblr:
http://lworbit.tumblr.com

>>1807281
man i really like it

need some crit on this wip

>>1807266
I've never seen a picture so well rendered yet so crappily designed.

>>1807281
>>1807285

Yo! I gave you some advice about Society6 n' prints in another draw thread. These are looking a lot better. Good job filling them out!

>>1807296
That newspaper thing in the old guy's hand is out of perspective. Unless it's supposed to be like that? Like, the technology always shows the images at a perfectly flat angel? Even then the device has two completely different focal points on the same sides.

>>1807296

feels muddy. i would saturate the whole warm but dark part of the image stronger.

how useful is it to draw from paintings? (with a pencil that is) - pic semi related, I used some details from BRUEGEL paintings and drew some from imagination.
also I have so much difficulties drawing eyes, how did some of you overcome those problems?

>>1807301
hey big thanks! There's always something I'm not pleased in my own work, but thats the part that makes me work harder.

What makes this especially hard for me is the method, I don't do any sketches beneath. Just straight with marker, from start to finish.

What makes a picture have good values?/whats the definition of understanding and having good values in a piece of art?

>>1807314

look at some ruanjia, some jaime, some mat verhasselt

mullins has insane values obviously but he is just so far above any and everyone trying to learn, understand and reverse engineer his work is waaay out of our league (i feel)

Can't critique any pieces yet.

>>1807354
I sincerely apologize for the file size.

>>1807296
really interesting picture. this dark urban feeling

>>1807281
these are very coole i'd buy that book!

currently working on this picture:
it's about smoking a satanic strain of marijuana, cannabis sataniva.

>>1807354
Nose looks wrong, probably symbol drawn as it's from the wrong perspective relative to every other part of her face. Good value though.

>>1807314
good values = good lighting

that's all.

if you do it right you end up with some citizen kane level shit, if you do it wrong you end up with shit that don't even look real.

>>1807368
Fixing immediately, lel. Is any of the above artwork yours?

Under-drawing is done

updated from >>1804794

>>1807377
hey, how many hours per week/or day do you draw?

>>1807377
eyes are too small and the ear's not placed right, but it's too late to fix that now. flesh out the shading on his temples, don't be shy

>>1807314
accuracy, readability, composition

>>1807385

honestly no matter how many times i read that and how interesting and well made linrans digital art is, i can't help but feel like that's just a bunch of overcomplexified pseudo-knowledgable blabbering. if he wanted to communicate his thoughts, he would do it more accurately and clearly. but he wants to shill himself nad his deep artistic knowledge, so he posts this bunch of wishywashy honkydory babbling.

>>1807387
I'm think that's just because he doesn't know English honestly. He's Chinese right? He probably run it through google translate.
It does sound like something you could find in some kind of Tractatus Logico-philosophicus though. I think it's because of how its sentences are structured, rather short and point by point, while still managing to be convoluted.

Would like this sketch critiqued before I begin the actual piece

This was essentially my planning/construction process

>>1807389
Hopefully this flips it upright

>>1807388

man good point! that makes alot of sense actually... you are right it's important to keep in mind he didn't write it in english.

>>1807387
seems like a pretty straightforward explanation of contrast to me, although calling it 'mental intensity' was a bit off putting for the first few sentences.

fucking around with layer modes in p/s
the experiment was fruitless, but I still want to push it to a final piece

tips on value/lighting please

>>1807383
As much as I can, probably around 2 hours on weekdays, 4-5 every other day.

I don't think that means that much, I just draw/paint/study almost aimlessly hoping that something clicks eventually.

>>1807384
Could it be that they seem small due to the fat and falling tissue around that area and the top lightning?

At least that's how it seems to me.

I will try to fix the ear with the pastel colour layer.

>>1807388
Yes, I also think that's the case, I read the previous versions and they were even less intelligible.

a pic from anatomy for the artist was used as a ref

need some crit on this, Feeling like something is missing would really appreciate some help.

especially with tips on rendering, although, I think I might leave rendering for later and work on the lines and anatomy a bit more.

>>1807420

wow pleb/100
forgot pic

>>1807317
I hate this picture. It looks like something out of the 3d renders in Planescape Torment. Everything is way too smooth and lacks texture.

>>1807414
proportions look a bit off
did this real quick, don't take it as a perfect answer

>>1807425

you make me sad

Couple hours messing around, ended up looking like Canti

>>1807390
If u shot it with an iPhone, next time rotate it 4 times in the Photos App, then save it. It should clear the rotation meta data in the file

hand looks kinda scrawny, whole thing looks kinda symbolly

>>1807425

opinion discarded

>>1807426
right, thanks, that looks much better

Experimenting with painting transparently since I typically paint opaquely. Also slowly trying to wrap my head around how shapes work.

>>1807401
quick revision,
trying to add a credible skin tone without loosing too much of the saturated red

I think illastrat would be proud of me

>>1807296
>>1807401
>>1807434
>>1807446
>>1807452

just wanted to say that i like these very very much, and you guys should post more regularly (wips or other work)

>>1807452
>>1807401
ugly

>>1807476
yeah, i realised
i mustve lost the proportions in the original sketch in rendering

redid the sketch with more aesthetics
still playing about with layer modes, this vivid light one brings out some sweet colours

>>1807482
ah, much better.

First time posting.

meh goblindude

this fatcat knight actually has a spaceship

>>1807266

loved this piece btw

>>1807446

beautiful... keep going?

Hi, actually i'm doing this character for a game. It's a chinese man with Freddy Mercury's clothes.
Someone have idea to improve it? Open to criticism.
Thanks

>>1807524
I forget, those men are the same char in different styles

>>1807524

i think they are awesome. honestly. not much to crit tho

>>1807524
chinese people are yellow afaik :^?

>>1807559
Oh yeah, i will change it and post again later! Thx.

>>1807434
Beautiful
Post more often, please.

Progress from
>>1804736

Last update before calling it done

>>1807499

rendered crap

>>1807627

awesome brushwork but muddy values

>>1807624
forms are way over defined in that arm

>>1807627
looks like fukin shit, what brushes are those?

>>1807624
very nice

>>1807646
bit hard to read in black and white, is it just a dead layer or are you going to leave it like that?

>>1807646

values are weak and what REALLY enormously hurts the image imo is the fact that the tiger heads look very mirrored.

>>1807482
final for ton8

as usual, can't really decide what i even want to paint lol.

>>1807679

beautiful. the lips lack form, and it really hurts the image as a whole, but aside from that if you squint the face takes on perfect dimensionality and plasticity... rly nice job on that

>>1807266
god damn, her head and face doesn't make sense. and she looks like a man.

>>1807679
>>1807687
Echoing what this guy said. Upper lip needs lighter tone from the lower left light source. It's all about the same right now, and adding that would probably help a lot. But it's coming along hella better than before.

>>1807697
idk, looks like this chick to me.

>>1807704
even her chin is not as manly.

>>1807704
no. proportions are wrong. and the skeletal structure in general is wrong.

Greetings.

So, this is half of my webcomic cover that I am doing

Yes, half.

Its WIP through, I still need to ink a few things and add color.

But still, would you read a webcomic if it had a cover like this?

>>1807716

fuck yeah i would. looks fucking awesome. at the very least i would be curious what it's about, and start browsing through the first couple of pages.

crits on this would be appreciated

>>1807721

learn to render and render that

it will never look good unless you render it.

>>1807721
a metal gear with a plane for a moustache?

>>1807727
i tried to illustrate the scene from MGS2 where it takes the harrier into it's mouth but while drawing i decided i would rather have the harrier being crushed to add to the motion, because it would be silly if it looked like RAY was catching it in its mouth like a dog playing fetch

crit pls

>>1807732

it's great. lacks a sense of scale tho. drop some tiny people in there.

also post link to folio/tumblr/da

>>1807624
her entire gesture is weird looking

>>1807733

Aghh yea.. I always forget adding things like birds, ppl, etc.. I just suck at painting things like that
And sry don't have tumblr, only permanoobs sketchbook -> http://forums.permanoobs.org/viewtopic.php?t=122
also thx for the crit !

>>1807742
You're really good at painting and rendering, but where are your drawings and such?

Don't be like me m8 and have a strong gap between your painting skills and drawing, yo. Put more emphasis on your draftsman skills imo.

>>1807266

>>1807685
The perspective is really off. The boat is huge and tilted at a weird angle. Try just plotting some basic perspective lines with a horizon and make sure the vanishing points are sitting on it properly.

>>1807750

um not rly mate. do paintover to make your point, i think you are just misinterpreting his angles and different heights.

I censored out my sig 4chan doesnt need my name. tell me how bad it is. Give it to me straight doctor am i a bad sketch artist?

>>1807755
>Give it to me straight doctor am i a bad sketch artist?

do you think you are not?

>>1807753
I'm not the best at perspective but this is how I see it. The orange horizon line is sorta guessed at since it isn't clear, but regardless the perspective in the image is kinda weird.

>>1807758
I want your opinion. mines biased.

>>1807685
the perspective isn't necessarily off there's just very little to see where it is. The boat is rocking, the staircase is not conforming, theres just a blob of foilage dominating the image, and a horizon that is not where you see it in the image. the bigger problem is the composition isn't really there. Its a storm but they're taking a leisurely stroll down a slippery staircase when they're in a hurry. Wind isn't grabbing anything but rain. The sharp turn of the staircase on the left side doesn't lead the eye properly. I would put the hint of a house peeking out from the foilage to lead the eye to the boat but also establish the perspective and geometry better. Holding the hat down with one hand, skipping a step, grabbing the rail, struggling against the windd with the umbrella, coat flailing, wave rocking a boat in the mist, there are things you can do.

>>1807493
welcome.

>>1807755
did you seriously sign a lined paper sketch?

>>1807624
This is like a problem i have sometimes. a low perspective, but still looking down at the legs. The hips are really important here. The near hip needs to go up and out more, would also suggest flipping the scissor action on the legs that would fix a lot. The other option is to bring the leg out so you can see the walking motion, then the hips follow. Maybe it's reffed. I'd still do something.

>>1807781
Was late at night and all that was in reach was a notebook. Clicked on my lamp and scribbling commenced.

>>1807712
>muh perfect female proportions
>why doesn't she look like Emma Stone
>I can't fap to this

a little doodle between studies

>>1807826
woops

Haven't done a self portrait in a while. Still getting used to digital painting :o

A portrait i've been working on slowly.
Trying to find a good way to simplify the hair, having a hard time trying to get the nuances and color shifts without making it too busy.

>>1807434
How do you get to painting like this? Everytime I try painting I either go full flat with basic shady or super watercolory, its too scary for me to do such rapid changes in value all in the same area.

I'm really trying to wrestle myself into draw an aesthetic that's consistent while also keeping it extremely flexible for all sorts of proportions and allowing for a large library of shapes. Not too concerned about height, although I'm worried about the adults looking like they may have kid bodies. They need more polish, but do the designs at least look interesting?

>>1807850
Discipline. Working with limitations--time/palette/layers/etc. While at the same time forcing yourself outside of your comfort zone, i.e. maintaining a wide range of values. Self evaluate and reinforce that until it's habitual.

Do creative works fairly routinely, but try studies every once in a while simply to focus on technical skill. Again, force limitation, like trying to render at least a convincing thumbnail in a certain amount of time.

>>1807847
I like this. Is she a friend?

I would say you are using the hard brush a bit too much though. She also comes off as a tad.. fat? There's some hints of a double chin which feels misplaced.

>>1807857

you need to fatten up the protagonist a bit

>>1807875
I don't paint often, I could never get behind it in any art class.
I'm way more into simple cartoon stuff but

I want to learn how to paint like this and APPLY it to cartoon stuff,

did a quick head and spent a solid couple hours painting its shading.

I'm sure its shit but at least let me know if I', in the right direction as far as adding color, lights and darks, and whatever else goes.

New personal piece, WIP. Some parts are going to be repainted, like the clouds with a warmer underpainting. Also, foreground and midground are unfinished, but I think I like the shapes well enough to start drawing it out. Any feedback, though?

>>1807732

Nicely done so far. I don't know exactly where you want to take this piece, but if I was painting it I would first lighten the background along with the distant structures, even just like 1 step with a bit of yellow in it, to push the turret out more as a focus. It'd also make the background structures less apparent, which would make the turret look larger and taller by contrast. Also, maybe darken the background directly behind the turret and play up the light hitting it - it'd make for a nice counterchange going upwards and things that are darker at the top typically feel heavier and more imposing. Again, though, I don't know exactly how you want this piece to feel - if you let me know I can probably critique it better.

>>1807847

See how from the thumbnail it's so close to working? Look at what information it's giving us that's convincing and you'll have the essence of the mass. You have the shape, just make a textured, flat midtone and draw the specular lit part on top. Then a few accents, like two to four. Look at Frans Hals' Malle Babbe, how the bonnet is just a gradiated midtone with a few strokes on top.

>>1807893
the sharp brush strokes on the water dont work.

>>1807844
post ref.

rip

trying out new composition. Somehow feels weird, any tips?

>>1807935
Looks nice dude, I think you just need to keep doing what you're doing 'til you get into it

r8

>>1807934
no one gives a shit about these people until they die and then everyone gotta post on the internet how much they miss them as if they had known them personally.

>>1807909
this is really awesome, I am picking up acrylic paints and am wondering if you have and tips about landscape painting?

buahahaha

>>1807961
YES

>>1807961
so? death is an ultimate reality, it's perhaps the most romantic thing ever. people aren't allowed to be moved when death is presented to them?..and not just death, suicide. and they should react by making art?

don't be cold dude.

>>1807969
it's just hypocrites pretending to show their love for a person they didnt give a fuck about for years/decades. it's like when your granny dies and you are sad that she died while you spend your whole life ignoring her instead of visiting her once in a while.
also this shit is always a chance for people to get attention by doing a portrait piece of their "favourite" actor. it's sad that this person had to die so people would start caring about him

>>1807961
Basically what >>1807969 said, and it's not like people say "you don't realize what you have until it's gone" for nothing. Death is a big thing, and sadly most people don't have the time to actively love and show affection towards someone unless they are extremely devoted and/or close to them, or something like this happens. Death and loss make you realize how important the person or object you lost was, so naturally, you mourn for it. There's nothing stupid about it, it's completely natural. Death is just an extreme wake-up call where you usually end up realizing how much you liked that person.

Sage for off-topic.

>>1807970
it's not a reaction to the person dying. it's a reaction to death.

>>1807281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2AKXDUSEA

>>1807970
Honestly you just sound sour as hell. Get over it and let people mourn in peace, the dude starred in a lot of movies and was a big part of many people's childhoods. Screaming about how no-one really misses him and that you obviously know how everyone REALLY feels just makes you look try hard and 2edgy4me.

>>1807929
Ha ha - I see what you did there

>>1807970
you can have a connection to a person even without being constantly with them.
i haven't met some of my friends in a year, but i'm positive we would still hit it up if we happen to be in the same town. and i would obviously care if they died.
and with robin williams, it's not like people will mourn for weeks. i just heared of this, and i bet i'll move on by the end of the day. in fact i already stopped caring.
he was a likeale actor though ;_:7

>>1807981
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>>1807966
fuck yeah im rippin some big rauncher farts tonight.

>>1807974
it's a shame that you actually need this wake up call. one could assume that you'd care enough for the people you like to show them and not just forget about them until they die.

>where you usually end up realizing how much you liked that person.

yeah i really liked that person when i forgot about him for years and never once called or anything.

people are idiots and hypocrites. that's the only right conclusion

>>1807987
dont need to teach kids. They wont understand anything you say and will live in their naive delusions.

>>1807961
>why do people only talk about something when it becomes relevant

>>1807934
Wait what he's ded?

>>1807987
you have the mentality of a 12 year old.
just because i don't give someone attention doesn't mean i don't like them.

and it's not that black and white. not visiting your grandmother doesn't mean that you don't care for her at all.

>>1807716
Definitely would read.
What's it going to be called?

>>1807961
interestingly, robin williams starred in a film which touches on this very subject; post mortem glorification. 'World's Greatest Dad'

>>1807266

gonna be designing a command center console panel thing

>>1807388
>I'm think that's just because he doesn't know English

That seems to be the case. It's not really comparable with Wittgenstein's dicta, though, which was a stylistic choice; rather, it just might be that when one does not have a good enough grasp of another language's grammar and rhetoric, the easiest way to convey a complex message is through aphorisms.

However, I think what he means is very related to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion

>>1807624
Good, but the background is still subpar, not just the strokes but the sense of depth. Fix it to end up with a presentable competent piece.

>>1807627
I think it's a solid render for a piece from imagination.

>>1808011
when i was first getting into painting i recall thinking that i'd never be able to notice all these little illusions and shit, and so it would be hard for me to paint color accurately, but you don't ever need to see them although manipulating them is fun. you can forget about them for the most part as long as the color you mix is shifted correctly from the colors immediately surrounding it. you don't need to know A and B are the same to paint them the same.

but (!) there is a whole other set of tonal and color interactions called 'field effects' (the abusive 'fake 3d glasses' effect is an example. the way that strong backlight eats into a silhouette is another obv. one) which you really do need to know which are often very subtle and have an enormous effect on the realness of your painting, luckily they don't really come into play until you've got the fundamentals down.

>>1808026
> drawing ugly people

I don't know what I'm doing. . it looks so wrong,any advice?

>>1808028
ugly people make for beautiful art

>>1808032
eeeeewwww i bet you like your woman unshaved.

>>1808036
i do

>>1808037
me too. i'd rather look down and see a nice trim bush than flapping red meat curtains, there's a reason they call it bumping uglies.

>>1808037
>>1808039

>>1807716
i'm amazed by ur art, awsome!

I guess im better than 90% of people here..

>>1808084
nice, both the hidden hand and the 'gun pointed directly at viewer.'

cool name too.

>>1807998

Thanatos and Anagenesis, through the url will propably be Anagenesis only.

I am working on the site and a backlog now, so I still have things to do before I am ready to post comics

>>1808044
virgin detected

>>1808084

yeah ok Leifield

Im back. Wip.

>>1808103
looking forward to this.

tumblr?

>>1808105
no not yet, maybe ill make a tumblr page later

>>1808109
wanna post anything finished?

i cant tell if you are good or not and i dont have the time to wait till it's finished.

>>1808110
well, most of my finished stuff are ages old, but i guess you can go check out my dA page, kjkallio.deviantart.com

>>1808112
shit, i remember you. the last time you posted on /ic/ was quite long ago. good stuff. keep it up

>>1808103
Looks pretty good, I think you can just focus on making it more interesting. Right now you just have bunny and his steed standing there in the center of the image in boring poses. I think either a pose/facial expression with a bit more attitude or something would look good, and maybe some more dramatic or interesting lighting. Perhaps adding in a stronger accent colour...the reds and oranges you can probably pop out a bit more. Take a look at Min Yum's stuff, he has a few images with similar palettes/moods, but he manages to pop in a bit more interest.

>>1808110
Seriously man? It's KJK aka Parsakoira. He even has his trip on. Look him up, he's one of the few good guys to post on /ic/. You're also being pretty rude.

>>1808093
at least i dont have a shittaste.

>>1808114
thanks man, much appreciated, this started out as a nightly sketch so I really didnt think any storytelling elements, Ill look into the lighting tips!

>>1808114
>You're also being pretty rude.

meh, could be worse. i didnt even insult him and i really dont have the time to wait till it's finished

i actually do recognize him, not by his name though and he hasnt been posting here in recent months

>>1808105
teach me master

>>1808103
very nice, thanks for sharing

can't really share anything constructive, but feel free to share any thoughts about having one human bunny and one -uh- bunny bunny..

>>1808137
that's a guina pig

>>1807747
If you take the attention to the figure with lots of details/more render this could become pretty nice

aaand more rock textures...
advice anyone?

I wasn't really going for it with this piece, but how do some of you get such a painterly look? I really struggle with that and my paintings end up feeling robotic or lifeless to me sometimes.

>>1808157
Grout exists. Don't be afraid to show it.

ı know this sucks... tell me what do i need to improve my lightning&rendering?

>>1808178
I would focus on composition, drawing, and value, before worrying about colour or rendering.

>>1808182
it was a request from /b, i drew it just for fun in 90min but youre right anon. maybe i need to turn back and improve myself on basic..

This is my concept art for a comic book I might do depending on if I ever git gud enough to do it.

What do you think of the character design?

>>1808098
>>1808090
You jealous lowskillfags?

>>1808168
You need Loomis m8.

>>1808084

>>1807296

i changed some things

>>1808207
Elaborate fucktard. its funny how everyone dislikes it, yet cant say why.

>>1808084

no, you are not. your character anatomy is all over the place, full of symbol drawing, dat abs dude, wtf and all those strech on the cloth, god. please be more humble, you are a beginner...

- - - Public Service Announcement - - -

Before you start warm your arms and hands up with basic exercises

Take breaks often. Ideally every 30 minutes or every hour for 10 minutes. Walk around. Stretch your legs.

Getting carpal tunnel and heart diseases are much worse than gitting gud a little bit slower.

>>1808084
>>1808212
Where shall we start?

Barrel heading straight outward is just plain terrible composition; it only works in cinematography and doesn't let you utilize foreshortening.
>Her hair increases in width as it goes down the ponytail.
>Face, hit with shovel
>Glasses are tattoos
>Her right shoulder is dislocated
>Tits are plastic. Not fake, literally plastic
>Her legs are twice as big as her body
>Her left shoulder is a man shoulder but her arms are twigs and her elbow is dislocated.
>I can't tell the difference between skin and fabric because you r shading is horrible.
>Big gun tiny caliber barrel. Unless I'm looking at the bullet inside the gun, which makes even less sense because how is there light inside the gun?
>Conflicting light sources on the body

Please start at the basics and work your way up.

>>1807825
Your shit posting is retarded. Her musculature is too blocky- it looks like actual male muscle. And the way the hips and waist work look like a distinctly male torso. Stop being a contrarion to look edgy.

>>1808215
I am certain this anatomy is quite good, since i was looking at anatomy book when i was drawing it. It;s not perfect, but calling it bad is biased.

>>1808219

Nigga you fuckin dumb

>>1808219
its beyond redlining.

>>1808217
>>1808222
I just wanted to present a piece i was working on so long and you all haters have to ruin it for me. Fuck off.

>>1808223
well fuck, this is more like stylization thread material. Sorry for that.

>>1808200
Would you mind elaborating a bit? I think the perspective on the head of the squid thing is off for sure, is there anything else that jumps out at you?

>>1808219
>"I was looking at a tutorial and so I CAN'T be wrong!"

Or maybe you're just a crappy enough drawer you can't even get it right even with an anatomy book in front of you. I mean, heck, I suck at anatomy but at least I accept it and humble myself to work at it. You're just arrogant and you think you're too good to be criticized by anyone else who just MIGHT be better than you.

Swallow your pride, work on drawing more and don't be a cocky prick about it.

Also see>>1808217

>>1808224

If you ever think you're good, think again.

>>1808224
You must be new here.

>>1808212
What's wrong with you? Lose that unearned pride and defensive attitude.
You are blind to the mistakes in your drawing, because you are a beginner. Without a solid foundation you focus on detail based on nothing.

>>1808224
lolno. Critique. No need to be arrogant.

I post shit I've been doing for days, it gets ripped apart and I take it all into account for next time. That's the point.

>>1808226
I'm seeing severely conflicting perspective, muddy colours and a lack of form, mostly.

Try doing a bit more in the way of construction, like using cross-contours and such.

>>1808224
If you had presented it and presented it only you wouldn't be getting the flak you're receiving now. The reason why we're ripping into you is because of the "better than 90% of the people here hurrrrr" comment. You're blind to your mistakes and think you can't do anything wrong, you didn't come for critique (which is what this board is for along with art), you came to show off your drawing to people who you thought would be inferior to you.

The drawing itself isn't completely terrible. Your proportions are the biggest problem, next to your attitude, but honestly you cannot walk in here being a cocky prick and then expect not to be hated for it.

>>1808228
>>1808231
I am not the best, but i think i am good enough to draw comics or something.
>>1808229
Yes, yes i am. I was hoping you wouldnt be so much hating whores, eh.

>>1808237
>good enough to draw comics

Think again, son.

>>1808226

http://youtu.be/FdHRVJEHHNg

>>1808233
Thanks, anon. I'll look into cross contours.

>>1808237
Um this board is called "/ic/ - Artwork/Critique"

Critique. C-R-I-T-Q-U-E
If you're too immature to take critique kid, then don't post on the board. We aren't (all) dicks, but we would be doing both you and everyone who is subjected to your artwork a disservice by not telling you what you did wrong.

As such, you are clearly very young and haven't had the reality check artists get when they realize that being the best out of everyone they know literally means nothing.

If you want to be a good artist, start from the basics and don't skip anything.

>>1808237
I'll just say this. If you were to draw a comic, people would only read it to make nonsensical reaction images out of it. What's a reaction image? Something like what I just posted.

>>1808168
I really like this.

>>1808157
small update.. I don't know.
Might start to practise some other texture

Line drawing is kinda hard to see, haven't drawn in a while so I'm trying to get back in the swing of things.

Probably do a few quick enviroments in a bit.

Need tips for colouring this, having issues I plan on making the main source of light the moon but I have never worked with so many dark colours before.

>>1808256
Remove the gray background your character to make her pop more against the background when you do color it. Simplify color schemes as you move farther and farther away from her, too.

>>1808251

You have these really jarring hard edges and soft transitions. The lighted sides make it seem like the material is metal, and the lighted desaturated patches make it seem like it's painted camo.

Also consider that rock walls aren't made from one giant rock broken into a bunch of pieces. Even in a rock wall that looks like it's made from the same rock, the people building it probably pushed them in at random, so raised edges are very rarely consistent from rock to rock.

>>1808237
Please, either be a troll or 15 years old, nobody can be this stupid

>>1808262
Thank you very much for being really helpful and not a cockgoblin!

>>1808264
I am 22 you jerk.

Temple pic from 2 days ago. Its starting to look really muddy because I've upped the contrast on a new layer so I'll need to go through and fix all the artifacts but are the values starting to be at a place where they look good? Any other errors? This is the first piece I have ever tried to "finish" and I know editing brightness/contrast through photoshop probably isn't optimal but I'm not at a place where I can lay down values confidently from the get go.

>>1808291
Clean your colors.

Comp is not as exciting as a comp featuring a temple could be, it is a monument of god but there is nothing godly about your depiction, rather it looks like a perspective exercise that you went "This one for sure!!"

>>1808291
Damn, that's gotta be the most boring architecture I've ever seen for a temple.

>>1808103

gorgeous man

I'm really struggling with values/hue for creating rendering.

Thank you all for the replies, heres my progression so far, last one for tonight. The flag is still a work in progress, something bugs me with it but dont want to think about it right now.

>>1807857
Holy shit Ross if you're on /ic/ and still drawing like that you're just insulting good artist here

fucking read Andrew Loomis "Fun with a Pencil" and you'd improve

yes Loomis did cartooning too not just realistic anatomy

most of you anatomy even for cartoons don't look good like the long pointed elf clown feet and the square everything, round things out more

>>1807857
the protagonist's face looks really terrible. All i can say is good luck.

>>1808380
Get your black and white values down before trying colour.

>>1808381
I think the flag looks like it is floating a lil bit on the left side
Looks really cool.

>>1808390
Do you mean actually doing it in black and white or doing the thing where you look at it in black and white to see how your values are off?
I'm fine enough with working in black and white now, I think.

>>1808380
Widen your range of values, son. Work b/w first.

doodled this afternoon.

>>1808380
>>1808390
>>1808394
Okay I gave up pretty fast because it was really hard to stick to using 100% opacity while using b/w somehow and I kept getting too soft.
I'll try copying someone else's colour palette next time.

>>1808432
Or use a photo as reference to give you an idea of what the values would look like. Copying from someone elses wont benefit you as much as that.

>>1808380
>>1808432
Values and colors are not something you should be focusing on right now, basic anatomy is more important, study that, not values. Going too far too fast is not going to help you, baby steps.

>>1808032
when you know how to draw, that is.

>>1808084
Assuming you're not a troll, flip it sideways and maybe, just maybe, you'll realize what a hideous childish thing you've made.

>>1808411
somewhat interesting I guess.

>>1807934
doesn't look like him at all, or a realistic face for that matter.

>>1808453
i will make sure to make it more interesting next time

River

Current WIP. I know something's off with her skin tone in the light, but I can't seem to get it right. Should I add more subtle yellows/oranges?

>>1808481
Why does posting progress reveal everything that's wrong with it thus far? Dang, oh well, Made her face too long.

Also the ref

>>1808482
Yea, just make her more Orange/burnt sienna/ peachy lips... Yes, they have some purple, but now you have to tone it down. Just go for vibrancy, you can always desaturate it a bit later!

>>1808482
sample your colors from the actual picture, rather than using the color picker. It's way more efficient and you end up spending less time experimenting and more time actually rendering.

>>1808481
Try not to depend on opacity too much. Save that for the end when you're fine tuning your drawing.

>>1808482
Her eyes are a bit too big and far apart, glabella is also too wide. Upper lip could use some touching up, the shape is off.

Worked on this in another Draw Thread. Thanks to the few folks for the input. I figured I'd share where it's at now. This is almost done.

>>1808486
Thats terrible advice. Doing studies is about learning not doing it as fast as possible

>>1808491
Your brushstrokes can cure cancer

>>1808486
Fuck this guy. What's the point of a study if you don't experiment?

>>1808492

Well if you're not concentrating on color for that particular study, you spend less time thinking about it. Also sampling from photos is a common practice for imaginative pieces

>>1808488
Noted, thanks anon

>>1808491
I like it. I think it would be better if it popped from the background more, like if you just kept the blue more apparent around the edges.

>>1808491
Honestly, it didn't got any better. Just busy textured and chopped

>>1808497
Theres a difference between taking a color you like from a photo and using it to create something new from you imagination, and color picking from a photo you're trying recreate to learn from.

>>1808486

what the fuck

>studying
>not experimenting
>gotta spend time rendering

what the fuck anon. stop giving advice.

>>1808485
Sounds like good advice! I'm on the rendering stage, though I guess I can go back and touch up on a few things.

>>1808490
Thanks for noticing! Didn't really see that when I sketching the image in proportion.

>>1808492
I second this. Not only defeats the purpose of a color study but also normally turns horrendous, since photos are full of subtle hues that only work as a full set and taken separately over a white surface looks dirty.

>>1808482
Try increasing the saturation before changing the hue, so you know better where you should head towards

>>1808503
Well maybe I don't wanna eyeball the colors and wanna skip to the rendering

>>1808500
Think this looks better?

>>1808508
Why would you do that? Good paintings are all about colour. If you wanna practice rendering, you could always do a paint over of a still-image from an animated movie. But other than that, you're not gaining anything from colour picking. That would mean your knowledge on colour and value is very limited and what you would do outside of studies would be inaccurate.

not really much happening here

>>1808507
>photos are full of subtle hues
Not to mention that all mayor areas are truly formed by the juxtaposition of several colors in a special arrangement and picking just one pixel won't restore the full effect at all. One really needs to interpret and find fair equivalents.

>>1808513

>Good paintings are all about colour
Highly debatable

Maybe I'm in a position where color isn't an issue and I wanna focus on one of the other piles of shit that go into a piece instead of glazing over everything

>>1808515
Needs more interesting values, temperatures, saturations, colors, etc. Looks very 'bleh' right now. I think one of the best things you can do is push the values and saturation of the blues in the sky.

try make a master study.
I feel terrible. I can not learn to work in Photoshop and draw.
I'm tired

>>1808526
I would recommend doing a study on something a little less complex if you're struggling. And make sure you pick more saturated colors

>>1808526
There's more color than you think. Don't be afraid to really push that saturation. Also, try and focus on the big picture a bit more, more specifically values.

Take a look at this a bit and see if it helps your understanding at all. Yours is on the left, my rough paint over is in the middle, and the original is on the right.

Hope this helps a bit!

>>1808389

Wait. Please tell me why. Is it the proportions? I didn't think they were too extreme compared to the recent cartoon designs I've seen cropping up.

>>1808536
The eyes look awful, dipshit. Also, your coloring job is awful.

>>1808381
it's all dark and muddy.

>>1808389
>>1808536
Looks fine to me.

>>1808481
Getting better I think

>>1808510
Yes I think it looks more finished

>>1808384
I wish people on this board could come up with better critique than loomis loomis loomis

>>1807857
The protagonist and friend's eyes are a bit too big, and it makes the rest of the face look really weird, friend's pose is stiff and weird and the protagonist's arms look like they need to be tensed up at all times.


Otherwise looks really good! I don't know why the other guy is telling you to read loomis, you are obviously past the need for fun with a pencil.

Screwed up the neck area so gave her a beard.

>>1808533
thank you.
>>1808535
thank you, you help me :3

>>1808561
More sexy ladies should have beards

>>1808556
Loomis is the basics of the basics if you can't take the time to read/learn from him then you really don't belong on /ic/ or you shouldn't be drawing all together

People don't always just say "Loomis" because it's some /ic/ meme, it really is the best way to get the basics down and work towards being advanced.

There are people on /ic/ who have admitted to not even completing fucking "fun with a pencil" because it got to advance for them and gave up

Loomis separates the people who are serious about art from the shitters who are wasting peoples times here.

>>1808561
Work on your female arms a bit more.Her upper arm should be more slender just after the deltoid insertion and then her forearm should be a bit more slender as well on the inner side. Everything else looks real nice. Keep it up.

decided to just hang a bag of severed arms there and keep the knight

>>1808523

thanks mane. think i see what you mean.

>>1808561
I like your rendering. How is your workflow and do you use the hard round and sofr round or just the hard round?

Beginner fag here. I only started drawing (besides doodling) a short awhile ago. This is my first drawing. What do you think? Where can I improve?

Tried potrait, I think I need a eraser for highlights. Any tips? Smoothing would have made it more "finished", but I like the texture more.

>>1808609
Ya blew it

>>1808680
Looks too flat, get to the sticky and learn about forms

>>1807646
the lower half of the figures should be darker if it's top down lighting, I like the general composition of it thought, would recommend bringing the light grey foreground/midground to eyelevel with the tigers. I also recommend you ditch the pole-axe because it draws the eyes away from the centre, and the center is a good focal point in this.

Just got a wacom tablet, finding it so hard to draw with it, anyone else have this problem? will it get better?

>>1808749
Here's a critique for your drawing:

Shut the fuck up and read the sticky.

>>1808736
>pole-axe
That's some kind of Guandao or a Woldo, not a poleaxe for sure.
For some reasons nobody depicts poleaxes in contemporary fantasy illustrations.

>>1808749
it's always hard at first, after a month or two it'll feel completely natural though.

>>1807725
not that guy but could you point me to books/guides that teach me how to render? I can't render and I don't really understand what everyone means with values.

>>1807945
I like the idea behind the drawing: A cute girl contrasts with the name given to her Conchasumadres. This is actually short for "concha de su madre" in spanish meaning "his mother's cunt".

>>1808775
ctrlpaint.com photoshop rendering videos.

>>1808536
because it will be hard to show emotion, turn it in 3D and its just not pretty. No room for the mouth, no eyebrows.

>>1808561
Pretty nice. Just finish the hand so it doesn't seem like a week spot.

>>1808564
yeah but not neck beards.

made self portrait from mirror

>>1809291
Not bad, but finish it, there nothing much to crotique, except dirty brushwork (try turning off opacity jitter and draw only with flow jitter)

>>1809360
Widen your value range, nthing else to critiqe, lineart loking ok

I don't visit 4chan very often anymore, but I still like to visit /ic/ every once and a while just to get your collective input and opinion on what I need to work on or look at.

>>1809389

>>1809390
And this is all I have to share right now.

So, thoughts, anyone?

Thanks beforehand, I really appreciate any help.

>>1809393
Arms are too short. Your elbow should come to your belly button, roughly. Think of school dress code, your shorts need to reach your finger tips. The guy on the left would have his dick flopping out. What program are you using anyway?

Tarted up practice constructing round forms in perspective.
You may recognize the concept from Scott Robertson's book.

Help, any.

>>1807266
i tried some xerox, didn't learn anything about perspective and construction, as expected.

>>1809408
Photoshop.

>>1809408
but elbows do not line upwith the navel

stand up

Just the poorly scanned shoulder up close ups of my creatures (had to put two 800 page textbooks on the girl for it to scan)

>>1809393
I suggest practice drawing yourself in different poses to help with forshortening and proportions. Try giving yourself 60 seconds to gesture in as much as the form as possible using as many dedicated strokes as possible instead of the sketchy lines you have here.

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