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Hi IC I started out by learning to paint and now to strengthen my fundamentals I am going back to drawing.

Do you have any great men to study from? The sticky has a lot of pics but they're not really high quality and they only reflect a very modern outlook. I just really want to see amazing draftsman at work I guess

Picture is by Heinrich Kley

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More Kley

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I am not after amazing draftmanship just line drawing with great sensibility to life, drawings that feel alive if that makes any sense.

Pic by Ian McCaig

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After this kind of drawing, almost like an etching makes things appear with real volume, very precise work.

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Katsuya Terada
Kim Jung Gi
Moebius
Gustave Dore
Donato Giancola
Nicholas Delort
Roberto Ferri's drawings are very good too

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>>1802983

Giancola

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>>1802986
Donato's drawings are always better than his paintings imo, but that might just because I've never seen them in person.

I've wanted to get into Moebius for a long time, is there a book that just sets you straight off into his world?

>Robert Ferri
Of course he'd do drawings as well I never thought of that. Thank you

already have art books of the rest, I should revisit them

Dean Cornwell

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>>1802992

Arzak or The Airtight Garage

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>>1802994
Damn this is tight

Any other Moebius' works worth looking into?
(please don't just say all of it)

>> No.1803043

What would /ic/ reccomend for someone who is after amazing draftmanship?

>> No.1803300

>>1803000

The one Blade Runner was based off of, City of Incal or just Incal I think

>>1803043

Thousands of hours and miles of practice, there's no cheating or shortcuts, only grind

take care of your wrist
invest in some better than average materials
draw baby, draw

>> No.1803306

>>1803043
also.. gesture, gesture, gesture, gesture, gesture, gesture, gesture, gesture. and then you apply form, and then at last, anatomy and details. start with the action, develop it from there. without action you will end with dead drawings, so focus on the story or the life, and build your "house" upon that.

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>>1803043
Master perspective.

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>>1803043
Try to get proper proportion in all things you do. Try and look at etchings from back in the day, their strokes are very clear and easy to follow.

Proper understanding of form(?) will be the biggest help

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>>1804961
I'd recommend etchings by impressionists especially. It's ink strokes but it feels very real.

But then again I'm a huge nerd into making things realer than real life so take that for what it might be.

Though I do believe the lessons learned from looking at proper hatched images will transfer wonderfully into any more 'simple' drawing.

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Mucha is up there

Also, remember that these guys did studies for almost all their drawings

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Eeeh I'll stop dumping now


Have this instead:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zro5e7rvkoezsbw/nEOwhTMvCg

>thanks anon!
np

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>>1804975
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zro5e7rvkoezsbw/nEOwhTMvCg

Sick

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>>1802983
>Roberto Ferri

that guy is good, damn

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>>1802979
even his pencils were perfect

>> No.1805826

>>1804968
his trick was that he did the painting first. then the etching as a copy. so everything was all worked out already and he could do more interesting things with the marks.

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>>1805826
Yes, it's a wonderful translation. I feel as I make my marks in the real world that I see the things as he would have seen them for a period of time after looking at his etchings.

They're easier to analyze (the etchings that is) than his paintings because it's purely mark making nothing else

>> No.1805832

>>1803300
>there's no cheating or shortcuts
This is wrong.
There may be no general shortcuts but there are definitely personal shortcuts. They're just hard to spot.

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Claire Wendling is up there. Her lines are just so appealing

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>>1805834
More wendling

>>1805832
I think everyone ends up having their own shorthands if they continue their study from life, not relying on others.

You have no chance to make up a short cut if you don't know where you're going in the first place

>> No.1805837

>>1805834
love her work. wonder where she studied/what her commissioned work looks like. all i've seen from her is her sketches

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>>1805837
Can't remember the name, but it was the same comic school that JJfrenchie went to.

I've seen 1 commissioned thing from her and that was just a sketch + water colors on top. I think she made a whole bunch of money on a sketch collection a few years back.

>> No.1805845

>>1805840

good for her. she's super talented and unbelievably good at drawing. her sketches are always unbelievably clean.

i just wish her subject matter was a little more varied/she fully rendered pieces with backgrounds

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More Dean Cornwell


Are we also posting contemporaries ITT?

I think Wesley Burt has some great stuff going on, same with Marco. Wesley is also very handsome so you if you need an art waifu there's that.

>>1805845
Yeah I hope she brings herself out of that comfort zone (if you could even call it that) at some point, though I am contend in just looking at her stuff as she posts it. Who knows, she might have been working on some big project over the years which is getting closer and closer to reveal. I can't imagine her having a full time job other than art

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>>1805855
I think contemporaries are fine, what the OP is after is just drawings with a lot of spirit in them.

I think it's more interesting to look at the dead guys' work and look how on who they've had an influence, this way you can reverse engineer your contemporary art heroes' inspiration.

Posting Charles Gibson, because he might as well be my messiah, my jesus of pen and ink

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>>1805875
The breathe between his lines is just magical.

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>>1805885
Also I saw someone post a piece in another thread on lines, it was a hunting party and there was an elephant. It was incredibly well done but I can't remember the artist name and I didn't save it on the occasion, does anyone know who made it? There was a post along the lines that he lived in a mansion under the great depression and was the most well paid illustrator for his time

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>>1805889
thanks for the dump, loving these.