/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1789663
in other words you havent improved

Instead of scavenging for lolcow material on DA and pretending its yours, you should probably just get back to drawing.

>>1789666

>>1789669
>scavenging
>implying it's hard to find lolcow material from DA

This is better suited to go in the progression thread, please stop junking up the board
>>1782966

>>1789673
It's not hard but a waste of time.

>>1789670
How is that bait? He's 100% correct, that person is completely shit and if anything has regressed, the fuck?

Pretty sure OP wasnt claiming that as his work.
They just want a thread to laugh at peoples Draw this again memes. Pretty sure we can safely assume anything posted in here will not show any 'progress' or 'improvements'

damn u niggas slow

>>1790369
this nigga gets it.

I did this quite a while ago

>>1790478
P.Guud

>>1790478
awesome, getting gud i see

>>1790369
Still a waste of time...

>>1790484
>>1790518
That's from 2 years ago tho. Haven't improved that much since then, gotta work on that shit.

Those thread would be less hypocritical if people did it with their own art instead of mocking DA like anybody there is actually better by default.

>>1790478
Pretty nice man, that's at least twice as good.

>>1791310
I dunno I'd say it's like 55.78% better.

>>1791316
I didn't have a calculator on hand mb

>>1790366
>>1789666
>>1789669

Hello newfags.

I've actually gone backwards in the last year when it comes to form and shapes...
DA tier shit right here.

>>1791968
4 years and you still use a uniform line weight ugh.

>>1791968
the legs on the 2014 pic look horrible.

>>1790478
What years? Cause that matters.

>>1791978
2009-2014 you dumb blind faggot bitch cocksucker motherbeater cuntbreaker titsucker cupcake

>>1791174

What the fuck are you doing if you haven't improved much since then, how much fucking time are you wasting on saying you want to be an artist.

>>1791310
thanks dude, Im trying to move forward
>>1791978
Both are from 2012 I think (if not 2011)
>>1792021
I'm actually using color pencils and a 2B pencil to draw traditional, for this past year if I recall correctly. I got better in a lot of things (it sounds stupid, but I recommend this to everyone), but color theory and digital. Fuck, it doesn't feels good, but I have no time and no scanner either.

This is all I have to show tho

>>1792045

Do you even want to do art as a career or just as a hobby?

>>1789663
is that ambulance again
>weeaboo
>weeaboo
>weeaboo
>weeaboo
>weeaboo

>>1792065

As a career in fact, and I want it so badly, but I'm my shitty country all I have left is to study architecture, which will give me some stability in my life tho. But to get in I have to study a lot, maths, chemistry etc (just for the entrance exam), and also for an artsy exam (basic perspective, composition, color theory etc), which is done with 6 fucking colors and 2B. So I had spent my time doing perspective and anatomic studies, some gestures, but everything on paper.

But since all sounds like excuses, I'm plugin my tablet as we speak. Thank you anon, you make me remember why I'm doing all this

>>1792581
>which will give me some stability in my life tho
I mean it as for the moment. Also, this school is basically a design school, home of lots of artists as well, so that what is motivating me to get in there.
And is fucking free

>>1791968
still drawing generic deviantart tier animal characters i see

>>1792581

You could go one step further and drop school. You don't need it, it's just busywork that gets in the way of actual progress, a lot of stuff in life is. If you aren't happy and don't have time to do what you want to be doing, stop doing what you're doing and leave, it's not as easy as that but hey, it's your choice.

>>1793330
I've thought really hard on this matter, and I came up with studying first, or I would end up in the streets or on a shitty absorptive work and even less time (thank you, country of mine). Studying, and only doing that would give me plenty of time for complementing that education (which is a design and artsy education) with all the resources I've gather so far from the internet.

Also architecture has piqued my interest, so either way or another, as some anon say once, do something so you can always win. For sure I will drop this career if it gets in the way or I find I'm not happy with it but so far I've found myself looking forward to what I'll learn.

Thank you anon for making me reflexive about it

Closest thing I have to one of these.

The gap was filled with mostly constructive anatomy and gesture studies so a portrait kind of thing might not show a lot.

>>1793424
I feel bad for you

>>1793442
Criticism is welcome.

>>1793442
I feel bad for you.

>>1793442
I like the progress, at least. It's getting somewhere.

>>1790518
boner activated

Is my shading ok? advice?

>>1794997
ISHYGDDT

Fundies, read the sticky, watch Technical Dave.

>>1792002
I didn't realize December 2014 had passed yet. Where the fuck are my presents.

>>1794997
Loomis

>>1794998
>watch Technical Dave
But that anon's already on razi's (shitty) level. And technical dave isnt even about art, it's about art school.

>>1794998
>>1795257

I don't see why Technical Dave would be relevant to anyone not going to/not planning on going to Sheridan.

>>1794997
The single best thing you can do to improve your stylization is actually learn how to draw figures as they look in real life. I guarantee you, if you learn how to properly draw humans your anime will actually get 500 times better. If you don't want to read books, go on Youtube and search for Proko and Sycra.

>>1793424
Is this really bad? It looks like good progress to me. Granted: I'm a shitter.

>>1795628
You've got a better understanding on how the face works,yet that's all. also 2 years is way too much

>>1789716
I like it a lot, even the first one had a nice style.

>>1795416
Not >>1795628 but
Thanks for the recommendations, I've been looking for good youtube videos, but I also haven't heard any recommendations on books.

>>1795835
...

Like, I don't even know what to even say about this

>>1795835
look at that stagnation.

>>1797099
terrible for 5 years

>>1797099
You can see the improvement. The artist learned a little more about form and light. Notice the shade under the breast and on the hair, as well as the 3d appearance of the arms.

>>1789663
Not mine, artist says he started working 10-15 hour days except for times when he stopped for a few weeks because of depression.

>>1797108
>18
now she looks like your average tumblr feminist,
I bet she uses "they" pronouns too

>>1797357
Photobash/10

>>1797357
this doesn't show improvement at all. compare drawing with drawings or paintings with paintings. if all he ever studied was how to draw landscapes and rocks, then it's not surprising. actually not impressed with image on the right.

>>1797357
>dem pixelated robes
top kek

>>1797108
>>1795835
2001 one was best tbh

>>1797363
>>1797364
>>1797365

The shameless, shameless jelly.

>>1797523
Jelly? It's a completely mediocre piece. The composition and perspective are fucked. The values are fucked - way too many darks and messy, inconsistent atmospheric renderings. It's a very bland and boring environmental design too.

>>1797532
Jelly of his improvement, I mean. Post your work lel, back up that apparent knowledge of the craft.

done very quickly to cool down after studies

fun

done very quickly to cool down after studies

fun!

>>1797672
>muh fundaments

>>1791968
Good job. Great improvement : )

I'm still shit, but I'm better with a pencil in my hand than I am with a drawing tablet.

Not to mention that I can't color for shite.

>>1791968
horrible

I have literal fear of doing one of these because I know I did not improve much in the last 2 years, but as long as I have nothing to compare I can pretend it isn't a thing and fool myself a little more.

>>1791968
I kinda prefer the 2013 one...

This must be about right if my PC didn't screw up the dates.

>>1797765
you got stiff. that detailing on legs is also kind of disgusting.

>>1797689
Dude, you literally redrew this 1 to 1. Has your understanding of anatomy, gesture, perspective, poses and aesthetical proportions really not changed one bit in 3 years that you would draw the EXACT Same figure with all the exact same shortcomings? Not trying to be an asshole, but even the laughably bad Deviantart people whose "improvement" was posted ITT were at least trying to somehow redraw their work differently.

>>1797765
Prefer the previous year.
Why do so many people go backwards?

>>1797773
>Why do so many people go backwards?
/ic/ happened.

>>1797768
>>1797773
It's actually worse than it looks. I'm currently trying to relearn everything and work on my basics and I hope next year there is a more noticeable progress.

>>1797774
please don't blame your lack of skill and your inability to study and learn smart and effectively on /ic/ or any other place for that matter.

>>1797774
Time like it's used in this thead is too vague to really determine progress.

For all we know the person could have done nothing in those years, therefore getting worse.

>>1797765 Here just to clarify I'm not >>1797774
I blame nobody but myself.

>>1789663
>Draw this again! Meme
>Meme
actually writing fucking meme on the...ughhh, forget it

>>1797772
well, I know it's shit, but this is more closely to where I'm "currently" at.

I'm still shit, but atleast I think I'm making some small improvements.

>>1797829
it's even worse.
lines are still utter shit. and you're to concious of anatomy.

>>1797812
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
>not knowing that meme was a term coined in 1976 by a biologist

Also
>uuuugghhh

No John, you are the cancer.

>>1797838
i know and that's precisely why it is cringeworthy, do you understand what smth becomes when you write mem next to it
nothing short of RIP in peace
way to fuck up dude

>>1797835
I know. Hence why I'm practicing.

I think I'm getting worse

>>1798012
id say its better, but not 5 years better

>>1798012
Did you even draw in those 5 years?

>>1798027
i drew now and then with long breaks in between which i know is not wise

>>1797765
Looks like Tron Bonne from mega man legends. I prefer the earlier image stylistically. You might have improved your technique but the later image just isn't as interesting to me.

>>1795835
2001 was clearly true art
fuck this gay 'muh realism' meme

>>1797842
I literally have not idea what the fuck you're trying to say and lack of punctuation and capitalization of letters doesn't really aid your cause.

>>1797842
The word "meme" was used in a different context on deviantART a long time ago and is still used in that context today. It was a term applied to these things sort of like forms that people would fill out with drawings, answer prompts or questions with drawings, etc. It doesn't have anything to do with the memes like rage face or whatever the fuck.

Might as well post this. I'm not where I want to be (are we ever), but I know I'll get there someday. I just gotta keep working hard and stuff.

>>1798274
Oof, I really fucked that file up, that transparency isn't supposed to be there. Jesus.

>>1798274
Most recent one looks most lifeless, to me at least.

>>1798274
i really like that last one, great job dude

>>1798274
1st one has more character
though that might be due to your reluctance to put as much effort to latter drawings

>all this reverse progress
>all these wasted years.

>>1798280
I can see why you'd think that. I'll work on it.

>>1798301
You're not wrong there. I didn't put a lot of time into it (case in point: his body is just mirrored).
But, imo, the first one has way too many unnecessary lines. Kind of overworked. I also wanted to push the shark features a lot more with the last one - The shark parts just seem kind of tacked on with 1 and 2. It just wasn't really thought through in general (ex: I don't think a fistfighter would willingly mess up his depth perception by putting a headband over one eye).
I understand your concern entirely, I'll work on injecting more personality.

>>1798331
The only reason why the 3rd one looks more lifeless is because it's such a static pose. For a pure character design sheet it's fine to have a dead on frontal view, but if you compare it to previous drawings which have more interesting poses, you will get people saying it looks worse by default, regardless if you improved in many areas.

>>1798354
Makes sense, since it isn't the most fair comparison. I'll keep that in mind for the future.

>>1798305
It's killing me, because when I see this stuff, I see myself. I don't know how to get the life back into my drawings.

You guys jelly?

>>1798519
There's something really unsettling about this

>>1798519

>>1798519
Second looks rushed

>>1798519
both ugly
second one covered in oil

>>1798519
Second one has the face of a literal baby and is also covered in vaseline. Very disturbing.

I can take an old drawing on paper and redraw it digitally? Does it still count?

>>1798594
Yes

well, from this I learned two things:
>drawing males is fucking difficult to me
>my english has improved

well, from this I learned two things:
>drawing males is fucking difficult to me
>my english has improved

>>1798610
Do you even practice, at all? You should practice more, like 10 minutes a day at least.

>>1798617
yes, but usually muscular men, because they are the most difficult to draw... (plus a lot of girls/animals, just for fun)

>>1798622
muscular men should be the easiest to draw

>>1798623
Yeah, I guess, but I suck at it. So I try to practice more that kind of body (they usually turn like some deformed human with tumors)

>>1798610
start watching and doing them vilppu vids bro

>>1798622
I have the opposite problem. I am unable to draw emasculated bodies. I construct my bodies using muscles, which means they always come out as very defined. I have trouble toning it down. It's especially bad in the shoulder area.

>>1798657
well you're doing it wrong. a body isn't made out of muscles, muscles are part of the body.

>>1798662
I know, but I started overemphasising the muscles to familiarize myself with them, and now I'm stuck drawing athletes no matter what I draw.

http://pedographicologie.tumblr.com

i dont really draw anime anymore but for this i might as well
shred away

>>1799230
shit oops

>>1799231
So, he turned into Donte?

>>1799231
How's your rendering though

>>1799235
better, i can show you in a few hours, ive got a thing i need to get done while its still daytime

I never actually started drawing until I was around 13. i went from trying to draw anime to cartoonish then back to anime. but i'll draw my character now to show how I changed it

>>1799272
So this was the most recent drawing I've done of him.

>>1799272
>>1799285
>3264x2448

>>1799334
It's a great resolution.

>>1799272
>>1799285
Please resize your images whenever possible, anon. It makes it easier to tell what the fuck is going on.

>>1799341
I took the images on my phone and uploaded them through the app. i guess that's why it's weird.

>>1799377
Ah. Well, that's alright then.
If you're new to /ic/ you should check out the Beginner and Absolute Beginner's Guide and try out the exercises. Posting your practice on the Beginner General for critique.

>>1799231
This is what happens when realism and fundamental fags go back to draw anime style.

thats really fuckin gud

cool thread idea
I picked a random drawing from awhile back when I was just kinda drawing for fun every blue moon.

seeing all this hurts bad.
makes me want to stop drawing altogether.
i feel like nothing is looking right 100% of the time and yet I spend way too much time sketching (ie: a finished, final drawing for me).

i still have things I want to draw because seeing other people who are better makes me angrily jealous. I don't want others to draw my stuff ever, only me.

>>1799445

dude, everyone feel this way

>>1791968
I saw this on /co/ so I'mma comment on it

2013 is much better than 2014, cos the pose is easier to read and a lot more confident. You have a defined line of action and can see that she's going to land properly, whereas in the later version it looks like she tripped and lost her balance

The shapes are a lot more appealing in 13 too, 14 is just too rounded and the colours too muted

An improvement but I've come to a standstill the last few years. I find it hard to stay in rhythm when you're working full-time, just don't have the energy to draw most days

>>1799885
still nice. all of us who not actually students and work for a living experiencing this problem

>>1797773
Because once you start learning, you realise how little you know and how much you suck. So you try to minimize risks of getting things wrong, try to practice with safer poses and such, which results in less interesting dynamic.

>>1799963
I take this as something to look out.

>>1799926

I don't get why so many snobs on this board claim to draw 8 hours a day. It's impossible unless you are a NEET

>>1800048
idk it's not so hard, in total i probably do 8 hours a day. an hour or maybe a little more of actual focused work and 7 hours of doodling while watch youtube or movies or whatever :p

>>1800050
*nb* all that youtube watching is at 'work'

>>1800048
Even as a NEET I find it hard to grind for more than 5 hours a day.

I'm a faggot and I'll never use my time to my advantage, fuck.

>>1798274
looking at the faces on top, it doesn't have less character, it just looks like a different one

>>1797842
>>1798272
What this anon said, 'meme' is a different word on deviantart.

>>1798274
I like the first one.

Early 2014 to today.

>>1800563
sup

>>1800578
Eyy

An old one

I cant do these things. I just end up copying the 1st picture

>>1800603
That's why you study life or other people's styles. Simply drawing is as useless as simply eating right to lose wieght. Eventually, you need to understand that you need to exercise your craft and apply what you learn to new drawings, over and over again until you start to see progress.

As you can see from all these pics, it takes years, so you have to keep at it.

>>1800606
no, I mean, if I have my old pic in front of me I just end up copying it. like a copymachine would.
I can only reDRAW it from memory and then I forget details, like what shoes the character was wearing or such

>>1800048
cause rapoza, algenflenhgff, tehmeh and others progression stories

>>1800083
Yeah it's hard when you have all the time to use it effectively. It's limitations and deadlines that usually help people succeed. There are none in our position.

>>1800083

You need a kick in the ass, seriously do NOT waste a bloody second while you are NEET.

>>1800658

Temeh swears by drawing only 2 hours a day. Honest to god I feel like more than 70% of this board even draws seriouly let alone anyone here except for maybe some students draw up to 8 hours. It's all ego stroking and trying to make themselves feel above everyone else because they know deep down that they have nothing
"You are just a lazy sack, I draw 12 hours a day"
What's funny is that anyone who is actually good at art is humble and kind. I've never seen anyone who has actual skill and talent become condescending.

>>1800914
Tehmeh also "swears by" playing nearly 3800 hours (or well over 150 twenty four hour sessions) of Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike during his 2009/2010 progression period.

>>1800923
i'm pretty sure he said that he broke past that line in that year, not that he played all of it in that year.

>>1800923
well, we all know hes a dumb cunt

>>1800931
Verbatim

>during that 2009 'progress' year I clocked 1900hrs in tf2, and near that in cs/quake

Would it even be worth mentioning if that was the case? lol, can you imagine?

"Eh dawg I went from 1899 hours in tf2 to 1900 during the 2009/10 period nigga you know how it is but I still managed to progress somehow son you know your boy tehmeh got this shit real talk nigga!"

>>1800946
Also for the record I'm being facetious; I know that's what he meant but he was so vague about it yet all the while making it a central point of his post that I found it quite humorous.

>>1800946
i'm not english but i'm pretty sure "clocked" means he reached the 1.9k mark at that time, not that he counted that during that year.
..or you could just use some common sense and figure out that nobody can spend that much time playing in a year. what about sleep?

either way, you are trying so hard right now it's embarrasing

>>1800954

TEHMEH!

What brush settings do you use?

>>1800960
Temeh here, just use default hard round ;)

-posted from my New Samsung Galaxy S5

>>1800959
>>1800960
>>1800956
and look at that, you're trying even harder now.
this HAS to be jeaslousy.

>>1800966

>>1800923
Dude, we get it. You are incredibly angry that despite all your hard work you still suck ass and now an artist who is better than you will ever be says that he got good casually by playing video games on the side.

But the truth is, Tehmeh studied harder and SMARTER than you did. You are wasting your time shitposting on /ic/, Tehmeh was wasting his time playing TF2. There really isn't much of a difference here, except that when he was studying and working on his art, he did it much more efficiently than you.

TDF is in full force today

>>1800986
Where do you see people defending Tehmeh? All I see is people making fun of some incredibly mad autist, most likely you.

>>1800986
no, you're just pathetic to look at. don't involve me into your retarded idol wars. teal or tehmeh or whatever.

>tfw it's just tehmeh trying to make himself more relevant

>>1800990
The only thing I'm "mad" about is getting my posts deleted for no reason and even that's a stretch.

I'm actually laughing and having a good time, lighten up dude. I didn't make that picture because I don't like Tehmeh, I make self deprecating depictions of myself all the time so I guess I don't think much of doing it to someone else.

>>1800598
I love it. Going to finish it anytime soon?

>>1800923
This attitude, people, is precisely why you'll never succeed in anything.

Get a trip, mouthbreather, so I could filter you out along with the rest of the shitposters thinking this is /b/.

>>1797108
true, beyond her appearance there really isnt anything different between '11 and '14. Ive achieved better results just from immediately drawing the same picture..

Here's mine from January to July.
Boy, looking back and some of the old work I did back at the start of the year makes me cringe. All the figures are from imagination as I feel that's the only fair way to gauge progress, at least for me.
Honestly though I feel like I didn't make as much progress as I could have. Too much time wasted messing around on the internet and Dota 2 and not enough time on focused, smart study.
Stupid exams got in the way during late March and most of June so I didn't have time to do any art during that time either. ;_;
(Although I probably would have wasted most of that time on the internet as well.)

(Also it seems to be a completely subconscious thing but apparently I have a thing for girls with pony tails. :P Only noticed when I was putting this together)

>>1801130
And here's a study one as well.

(Don't mind the hat, I was messing around and forgot to put it on a new layer haha)

>>1798274
I agree, you've gotten technically better, but you've lost all the life in your drawing.

>>1797099
girl with the blue hair went through puberty

>>1797765
your anatomy got better at least. the tits in 2013 were odd. i prefer the right one

>>1797845

You've literally been doing nothing for three years. THREE FUCKING YEARS of your life is gone on what? Saying you're going to be somebody someday and art is going to be your golden ticket out of here? What the fuck are you even doing here, get the fuck off of 4chan and take some beginner art classes or something cause whatever you're "practicing" on isn't going to do shit-all for you.

11/10, jimmies fucking rustled

>>1799437
does the after head look okay? I feel the ear is placed all wrong and the dish of the mouth area has not been properly constructed leaving a flat apperance and short philtrum

>>1801475

No. Go draw skulls until you can answer your own question.

>>1801481

could I ask you kindly to point out what's wrong? I don't want to continue continuing wrong

>>1801485
different anon, but your after looks kind of octopus like
the back of his head should be drawn in a differnet perspective, see anons skull ref and look for the direction you should place the box to make your head look better

>>1801485

You've got years of work ahead of you to fix what's wrong. Piss off of 4chan and go draw from life.

>>1801481
that's a horrible and shittily drawn tutorial

i dont get why people, who cant draw, try to teach others how to do it right

>>1801539
Care to explain what is wrong there?

>>1801539
well /ic/ is supposed to be students helping students. that's how i see it anyway. you just have to put up with the pompous tone because there are neet people here who can't remember how to interact with humans.

>>1801485
looking at it first glance it looks kind of smushed together, the cranium is too short

I make the same mistake of making craniums too short, its a bad habit and even though I have to force myself to draw them longer than I think is right, they will look anatomically correct

>>1801541
the idea isn't wrong; to see the head as a box but it's wrong to just completely ignore the spherical shape of the head. the ball and plane method has its use. you see, the head is a fairly complex form.
you have to combine those 2 to accurately describe it.
the way you do it, you make the head look like an alien head. it extends too much to the back and it's more cuboid than it is in reality.
the box is just suppossed to help you with perspective and building the features. you arent suppossed to completely rely on it.

your drawings are quite bad, the perspective is off, the shape of the head is off.
i have no idea what you are trying to do with the weird thing in the middle of your picture, etc.
you should really check up on more resources regarding the head.

>>1801542
>well /ic/ is supposed to be students helping students.

more like the blind leading the blind.
there is so much misinformation on this board it's unbelievable. people who haven't mastered the fundamentals telling others how things are done "right".

>>1801563
Thanks for explanation, but those drawing aren't mine, I'm a beginner and was just curious.

>>1801565
More like the blind leading the blind while other blind faggots are whining and complaining about it. Face it, if you knew shit all about the subject at hand, you would have probably jumped at the opportunity to be the "teacher" and educate everyone in a constructive manner, so please don't exclude yourself when you talk about all the blind people on this board.

>>1801595
i actually did explain what's wrong, retard.

you are even worse than the people you are complaining about. not only are you blind, half your brain is missing also

>>1801602
>>1801563
what does it matter if something like 1% of the audience going think to themselves that according to them, the perspective is COMPLETELY OFF (in reality, by a small margin). you can complain all you want, though, you seem to enjoy it.

>>1801602
Yeah, nah. You are a little noobie who confuses his own knowledge with that of Michael Hampton. Just because he knows how to draw heads doesn't mean you do either. Of course the image you criticized has wrong looking heads, but you are still blind as a fucking mole because I know for a fact that your own head drawings look way worse than those you criticized.

>>1801595
ugh, dude, most of the people who know their shit don't give a single fuck about newbs. Like, why the fuck would most of them care about your shitty problems?

>>1801565
as i said that's all freaky loners being freaky loners. just mentally put "now i'm not sure but i read that..." in front of what people say.

We laugh at your woes and struggles. Why in the hell would any of us waste time answering noobs idiotic repeated questions. Sticky faggit.

Remember, these are the complaints of a buttblasted cantdrawforshitfag whos garbage got lambasted so he lashes out at /ic/ in a vain attempt to save face.

>tfw you know that most of the shittalkers in this thread are way overestimating themselves.
>throwing around phrases like "mastering fundamentals" easily when you know that they themselves are not even within a 1000 miles radius of it.

just another day on /ic/

>>1801662
>describes self.

fuckin metafags.

>>1801671
top kek.
show me those fundies you've mastered, masterpleb

>>1801693
k, what would you like a drawing of? something simple and nothing stupid.

>>1801710
can't you decide that for yourself?

>>1801651
Then what is the point of this board in the first place? It should be called "some artwork critique" as in you have to be a certain skill level to get a reply.

It doesn't make sense why artist would be condescending towards starting artist. Don't you think artist who have put in the time and effort to get better would be humble and helpful towards anyone who has the curiosity and drive to draw because at one point that artist was a shitty, clueless beginner himself ?
If they don't ( and that's fine) then they shouldn't be posting advice in the first place.

I think you got it wrong when you say noobs lash out to save face I think it's more of doosh like yourself who lash out for no reason to give themselves a face since anything you say on /ic/ is safe behind a wall of anonymity. If you ever go to communities like concept art or the like you will never find people like the ones on /ic/ because anyone who says anything can have people check out their sketchbook and make a judgement to disregard their critique or not. This is commonly advocated on CA, that is, to make sure the person giving you crit is actually knowledgeable before taking his advice since if he is shitty himself you'll end up getting worse. Not saying CA is the holy grail because it's shit now days.

On /ic/ we have to make a guess whether the person who is giving us crit is good or shit and we don't have anyway of knowing forsure but we do know that when they really don't have anything to say despite a specific question asked besides condescending one liners and irrelevant image macros then it's probably best to assume they play with dragon dildos and either have a very limited vocabulary or don't really know anything in the first place.

>>1801726
If your not dedicated enough to put some time into yore craft youer not worth my time.

>>1790478
Really good man, the second one has a real sense of "place". The first is flat but the second one feels like it's rooted in a 3d world.

LOL you faggots blew up over some shitty, thrown together art tutorial that I just happened to link for skulls. I just chose a random image somewhat relevant to what I was talking about in my post.

Of course it's a shitty tutorial, it's ONE resource. You gain something out of it, no single tutorial is going to have the end-all answer in it.

>>1801732
Learn how to spell and use 'your' and 'you're'.

Expecting people to be so dedicated to their craft when you can't bother to learn basic spelling and grammar makes you a dipshit.

>>1801789
youre new is showing you bleating cunt

>>1801794
its youre're

Just less worse, I guess.

>>1801806
I think you've shown a lot of improvement, pic 2's pretty good.

>>1801789
>>1801794
lul

>>1800598
This is beautiful.

>>1801732
>not worth my time
>on 4chan
What are you talking about, faget?

>>1789663
I did this when I saw the thread on /co/.
left is 2012 right is 2014

>>1801846
certainly a lot richer

>>1801817
Probably should've mentioned that the first is from 2012 and the second from 2014.

>>1801835
He's saying yore a worthless piece of trash dummy

Was browsing through some really old folders and found this abomination. I guess I've improved, but my lines are less tidy now.

>>1801955
>4 years
>negligible progress
let me guess, anime thread veteran amirite?

i tought ic was better than this lel

The set up is reversed but you get the idea. Bottom is from freshman year of college (2011) and the re-draw is 2012, I believe. I have improved more, but you can definitely see the anatomy improvement lol

>>1801965
I don't really draw anime any more, that was drawn during my anime phase as an early teen. The idea is to copy the pose and stuff no matter how fugly it was and improve on the fundamentals right? I'm new to this. Can I see yours if you have one?

>>1801981
when i did one of these a while ago i made that mistake too. the objective is to make yourself look awesome, not be all honest and try do it in the same style, the same pose or the same amount of time taken.

I've been working on my anatomy and line weight. Drawing backgrounds that aren't deviantart tier is still a mystery to me though.

>>1802075
looks great, fukin' cyan bg though, ick.

>>1791968
You're right - 2013 is better because it's simpler and more readable. But this is an isolated example, and the face is better in 2014. Plus I can't help but feel you're drawing a different pose between these two images. Like it's running differently in each one. (I'm not counting 2010 because you are on a different level now, skill wise).

am i fucked guys?
it was so scary drawing this.
Obviously the 2014 one isn't the best thing I drew this year, but......

>>1802268
oops, resized.

>>1802268
They're both still pretty bad. I prefer the first one because it looks more simple. despite the fact that her leg is going through the fucking sword.

Study more.

>>1802279
Three years and you're still hiding feet?

>>1802268

better pose and aesthetics but the draftsmanship is still really assy

glaives are cool though

>>1802268
Looks like a deviantart to tumblr transition.

>>1802279
your line quality hasn't improved since then which is the biggest thing holding your art back, the scratchy look makes it seem like you don't care very much about your drawings. Obviously you're tackling more complicated poses and are starting to flesh out your own style, which is an improvement, but you've still got a ways to go.

>>1802279
I like the design a lot but you really need to work on your technical skills. keep drawing everyday, broheim.

2013 vs now

still bad but getting better i guess, not shitty cartoons all the time anymore

>>1802309
i forgot the fucking glasses.

>>1802312
homestuck fan, right?

>>1802329
used to be
stoped reading like right up before the end, when the alpha sburb lands startted getting revealed

>>1802312
i think you've actually gotten worse since 2013

>>1802334
i don't know anything about homestuck, i can just tell by the art, thanks to tumblr

>>1802341
any specific way? i just recently started to try realism and i would like tips

>>1802359
for me, i feel like your gesture drawing in the previous years looks better than the hard lines you have in the most recent one. if you wanna work on realism, read the sticky, try and draw from life more and work on anatomy (that's how i improved...by like, a lot)

>>1802380
thanks a lot. i feel like the reason my gesturing is getting bad is because i'm trying to work towards proportioning the body and realism on the details and i lose the kind of more "natural" gestures i can pull out in cartoons.
i don't really know how to mesh the two and i feel like that is a large flaw for me

>>1802422
you can use your gestures as a base to put in those solid line-work, if that's the type of style you prefer (: or you can work on values/lighting/shading if that's what you prefer. don't worry, you'll get it!

>>1802282
>>1802285
>>1802287
>>1802294
>>1802296
>>1802306

Thanks everyone!

I think you guys are all correct. After I posted that image, I really had to questions myself: what did I learn in the past 3 fucking years?
I always thought I was improving, yet I had done no practice in these three years whatsoever.
I remembered after my second drawing that the original image was actually inspired by someone I liked when I was 16.
I didn't have much skill back then, yet my emotions when I drew that anime piece of shit, was probably very genuine.
I shamelessly attempted a second try at this thing.
This time, even if it was for only about a few hours, I tried my best.
/ic/ inspires me because there are so many people who are really passionate, regardless of their skill level. I feel like I insulted that community.
I owe you guys an apology for presenting something I made half-heartedly before.


Like always, I'll be looking for more criticism.

>>1802490
fuck me, resized again.

>>1802334
>right up before the en
I have some news for you

this is the first time i post here, but 10 days of difference, was only an exercise of realism.

>>1798012
you're improving

>>1802492
If your construction is bad, you'll find yourself fixing things more often than you need to.

>>1803117
If it's your first time on 4chin, get a thick skin now.
Por otro lado, hablas español verdad? No se ve mal, parece que entendiste que el ojo tiene volumen, y eso va bien. siento que he visto esos ojos antes, la uni te suena de algo?

I draw once in a blue moon. I need to practice more.

>>1803706
Right one hurts my eyes.

>>1789663
Shit, I think the first drawing was better.

>>1798519

>>1799885
>dat hand, tho
What happened, bro?

>>1803706
would say you have improved quite a bit the right hand one has a Don Bluth feel to it

>>1798610
DYELoomis?

i did one back in June

>>1803859
Pretty much everything in the new one is better, congrats man.

>>1803862
thank you I've worked really hard to improve

>>1803859
Ehh, you have a long way to go but that is a massive difference.

Just keep on drawing every day, anon.

>>1803880
yeah I agree there is always room for improvement and I'm always learning new skills and trying different things but I'm no where near the goals i have set for myself

>all these people making what should be 8 months progress, over the span of 4 years, or even going back in skill.

This is hilarious and saddening at the same time.

>>1803907
Lets see your progress then anon.

Some of these guys probably didn't discover /ic/ or the sticky or the right mentality until years after the first pic.

>>1803907
the mountain looks small from far away.

Seems to me as people's confidence goes up so does their attempt to draw more difficult angles or poses. Sometimes this makes it seems that they aren't making progress to outsiders. Not that you can really tell much from one picture though.

>>1803907
Guess what. None of them practiced even close to everyday. And no one of them practiced as effective as possible when they practiced.

>>1792411
seriously stop. It is the site for weeaboos in the first place.

>>1803963
Not him but all heavily weeaboo influenced boards suck. /v/ and /a/ are probably the worst boards on this site. /ic/ has a few containment threads for weebs and is rather slow, that's why it's alright.

>>1800598
Why am I laughing?

Thoughts?

Be nice.

>>1803963
I know but it's strange to get surprised over people with interests in japanese pop-culture posting here.

sage doesn't work now or what?

Mailing the Bowie that sun Bundy it all.

>>1803978

You improved. Its not much but its something.

>>1801087
f-finish?
>>1801831
Thanks maan! Glad you like it.
>>1803970
Ehh, i dunno

Damn nigga tha's three years well spent dog for real.

Seriously why do people bother?

>>1803978
>>1803989
This isn't supposed to be a thread about picking some horrible progress directly out of deviantart.

>>1803983
as far as i know it still does. but it isn't shown anymore.

>>1803706
what this anon said >>1803763, but overall, you've improved

Did this around 2012

>>1804246
This a couple of days ago

>>1803494
es la primera vez que publico algo, pero ya llevo años entrando por estos lares. Pensé que me iba a costar más mejorar en esta clase de cosas, pero bueno, al menos tengo feedback, y la uni no me suena de nada.

>>1804250
Son buenas noticias.
Usa una referencia, las cejas suelen ser mas grandes y proyectan sombra sobre el ojo
Sigue asi|

>>1804294
>proyectan sombra sobre el ojo
Quiero decir, el hueso donde estan ubicadas

>>1804337
muchas gracias por los comentarios :)

i made a draw-it-again in span of 8 years, but i used reference. is that against the rules? i'm ashamed to post it.

ah, fuck it. maybe using ref is part of getting better.
inb4 you didn't learn how to draw at all
i regret it so much because i didn't have to do it.

>>1803526
rate pls

>>1804543
Looks the same but with a different rendering

>>1804527
napoleon dynamite: the early years

>>1803985
best one in the thread

could be better after 3-4 years, but i'm very lazy

>>1804617

it definitely shows

>>1804617
I feel very sorry for you

>>1798012

I like the lines and armor style of left and the body and face shapes on the right.

>>1798274

It looks like he hit the gym and drank a lot of protein shakes so he bulked up but his new muscle mass made him stiff

>>1804755
j

>>1804246
>>1804247
/ic/ anybody? Other than the girls huge left eye?

>>1804944
Spooky

The sad part is I dicked around on the first one for about the same time as the second one ( a little over an hour )

>>1805417
How is this the sad part? You've evolved. If the left one was Aug'14, and the right one was Jan'14, that would've been the sad part.