/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1799569
Tehmeh got gud because he had already decided in his head that he was going to succeed.

He did everything and anything to make that happen. He reached a singularity in his studies and busted through the ceiling like fucking koolaid man.

Sometimes that doesn't work for everyone, but I think we can all admire his dedication.

Art isn't just about technical knowledge, it's a mind game as well.

>>1799582
His routine is determination combined with hard work and clever thinking.

>>1799569
>>1799582

not very subtle dude ;)

>>1799596
We're not the same person, but I know there's no way to convince you.

>>1799582
Good point, I need to cultivate the right mindset. I was thinking more of the nitty-gritty details though.

>>1799569

image is a bit muddy... he has much stronger pieces.

>>1799569

you can't judge someone by a study imo. have to look at his creative work. and his stuff from years ago (granted it was years ago) was honestly not phenomenal.

people should be hugging catbibs and longs nuts much more than tehmehs. although he is an inspiration and i'm sure he will blow minds when he updates his gallery.

>>1799645
Who is judging him by a study? That OP pic is not a study. Also, if you won't judge someone by a study, why would you want to hug Catbib's nuts, who posts almost exclusively portrait and figure studies and only very little personal work?

>>1799650

how do you know it's not a study?

pic related is some creative work from that time, and it's significantly weaker.

>>1799600
Well, that's exactly my point.

He was probably doing the same exact mundane tasks that everyone else was doing, but his mindset allowed him to mentally digest what he saw better.

Certain thought patterns are more conducive to learning.

>>1799660
god the way people worship is sickening.

he did well because he didn't listen to /ic/s advice. he's said as much. he went pure alla prima, and it worked out for him.

>>1799569
tehmeh pls

>>1799666
That's what Janaschi does, and it's reassuring because it's how I find myself naturally working

>>1799669

tits for crits!

also the personal shilling is killing /ic/. can't even blame the witchhunters at this point.

>>1799666
No one's worshiping. You're getting worked up over imaginary problems.

>>1799686
>Anyone who has anything good to say is a sycophant with a raging mast of an erection!

hey, i still go on here from time to time. i don't know what to post, because that OP pic isn't good at all, but i think there is a common misconception:

during that 2009 'progress' year I clocked 1900hrs in tf2, and near that in cs/quake (ive kicked the habit since)
it wasn't about grinding hours at all. it was about realising that motivation, then meeting artists, learning and relearning and relearning how to start pictures, how to study, what makes a good picture, and what it is I want to create. there's a huge depth to learning and the process that I was fascinated by and couldn't get enough of.
I started drawing with other artists, drawing at galleries, painting digitally outside and just trying to think about how to improve all the time. i probably only drew for a couple of hours every other day. before 2009 i was programming, and hadn't drawn since anime doodles in school.

i reserve heavy hours for freelance only. too many hours of hard work in single sittings kills either your brain or your painting.
two hours painting a day is more than enough if it's a considered effort, mullins talks about this first thing in his sijun notes.

I spent snatches of hours painting this day by day, it took months but the OP painting I did in a single 20 hour or so stint on livestream, and it's muddy, unconsidered, belaboured and embarassing to look back at. i made this mistake though, and learned not to do it again.
I really recommend the book 'daily rituals' by mason currey. it might shake up any notion of hours you may have.

sadly i work to support myself fulltime now, so I've got 8 months of artwork hidden away that I can't post til the end of the year.

forgot to attach image!

Who?

>>1799657
Are you really so unbelievably stupid that you think artists always produce 100% the same quality every time they work on something? How little do you paint that you believe this? I could post Mullins sketches that look like complete ass that were done in the same time period as some absolutely gorgeous paintings of his.

Oh, the not so bright samefag

>>1799693
interesting, thanks for the insight. do you do any traditional stuff?

>>1799693
>tehmeh posts just so he can disappear again

>>1799693

i would give a limb to know how much ur making. :[

i know it's rude as fuck to ask, especially since i'm anon ontop of that, but if there's some number you wanna throw my way to motivate the fuck out of me, plz don't hold back olly.

>>1799708
s-sorry anon ;-;
i hate how all these posts are permanently archived now. goes against what we used to post on here for.

>>1799705
not really. I'm attending a friend's oil landscape workshop for the next few weekends that I'm excited about. I want to learn watercolours, and I pencil from time to time.

>>1799710
it depends on the job and the client. my last client was 420$ a day, was a small animation team. i'm trying to move back into a studio job in the next few months.

as ever, if anyone wants to break into freelance or a portfolio review, just message my fb or email me, i love to give back to drawfriends

>>1799710

Its not about the money you fool!
It's just a sweet bonus to something that already should be pretty damn motivating!

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>>1799721
Thanks for the crab apples, Giuseppe.

>>1799710
and the studio jobs pay far far lower than freelance (except contract work for movies), but it's more than enough money and the benefits make up for it easily. it's commonplace in this industry alone to wait 6-18 months to get paid for freelance, and you're expected to work more than 14 hours a day, through illness, through weekends. it's not for me.

>>1799721

yes! YES! although i'm not quite there yet i would love an official olly folio review (no matter how brief) sometime in the next weeks. t-thanks bruh

>>1799732

'i'll just hit you up on fb then yes?

>>1799732
yes, of course. i've got to head off for the rest of the day now, but i'm free from in the daytime this coming week.

>>1799724
>commonplace in this industry alone to wait 6-18 months to get paid for freelance

Holy fuck! This can't be real life. Do artists have no way to protect themselves from this?

>>1799736
Suck my dick m8, please, m8 please

>>1799740
420$ a day seems well worth it. Especially considering he said it was a small animation studio. Imagine how much money freelance artists make at a big animation or movie studio.

>>1799744

Would rather make half of it but 1-2 months after delivering. Honestly. Waiting that long? Jesus ...

>>1799744
>420$ a day
ihihihi

>>1799745
I wouldn't, considering as freelance artist you are often working for several different clients at a time, not just one. So there's always some payment comingi in while you wait for others. That post actually motivates me a lot. 420$ a day means someone like Tehmeh can quite easily make more than 100 grand a year and although he's really good and all, he's nowhere near the top of the industry.

>>1799755
>"all professionals are lying, only amateurs like me, without a single day of work experience tell the truth about salaries in the entertainment industry!"

Yep, I totally believe you over Tehmeh ;)

>>1799759
i wasn't implying anything like that at all m9, stay mad

420 all day everyday

>>1799759
you know the fun of trolling is to see what comedic bullshit you can make look legit right

>>1799756

So if i want to start freelancing now I'll have to get a dayjob to support myself for another 2 years lol. While freelancing.

How the fuck is that supposed to work?

>>1799693
I am beginning to think like this, glad to know it works out.

>>1799766
yeah the 14+ hours of video games a day route is totally flawless

>>1799764
Usually most artists start out freelancing with low tier jobs where the client is not very reputable and you demand payment before doing anything at all. Like typical character commissions, book illustrations etc. What Tehmeh is talking about is work for bigger, reputable clients where you have a contract and you are certain you will get paid. At the point where you can land freelance jobs like that, you should already have some financial backup.

>>1799744
>>1799755
>>1799766
nice

>>1799767
>Implying I even play vidya

I'm talking about not mindlessly grinding for 14 hours a day, now do you love me?

>>1799771
>implying playing video games all day is not the key to success

>>1799721
Thank you ;_;

>>1799693
This what I've been doing and its really worked for me. Seeing this post boosts my confidence in my approach

>>1799693
Great

Now people will think it's fine to procrastinate all day every day instead of practice, because "someone who got gud did it"

>>1799852
That is not what he said. And if someone thinks that, its just natural selection.

>>1799852
Anyone who thinks that would have never made it anyway.

>listening to this shit tier blathering idiot
tsk tsk tsk

>>1799880
How is he an idiot? Genuinely interested, goes against my experiences of him.

>>1799880

why would anyone hate on tehmeh. is he banging your mom?

feel it brah
no practice brah

>working fulltime at a leading concept art studio, working on the next AAA film and game titles
Smooth

>>1799904

wasn't he at atomhawk?

>>1799902
>>1799904
I don't get it, are you trying to shame him?

>>1799902
Where the fuck does he say not to practice? If your art skills are as bad as your reading comprehension, then I really don't see much hope for you.

>>1799880
If you were even half as good as him, people would also listen to your opinion. But you're not, so no one gives a shit about you. Which makes you angry.

>>1799900
>tfw olly becomes ur dad

>>1799569
ive talked with Olly and simply put he is a very smart and curious guy. Same with acidenema. Those two qualities are essential to git gud fast

>>1799971
Interesting people are interested

My samefagometer just esploded. Stay stupid.

>>1799693
Mfw i can't tell if that tripcode really is tehmeh's or is someone just tolling us.

>>1800069
definitely tehmeh, that's how he always talks

>>1800069
then let's check if it's the same tripcode.

>>1800074
and it checks out

would have been surprised if it wasn't him.
like seriously, who would put so much effort into 1) sounding like temeh, 2) sounding like actually good advice but with a few things that go against what the majority thinks and 3) deliver a reasonable explanation as to why he can't post a recent pic

>>1799708
>tehmeh posts just so he can disappear again

i see him regularly on /ic/. he often helps noobs which is really appreciated. he is a cool guy.

>>1800080

i'm on /ic/ 24/7 and i haven't seen him post in years.

>>1800086
Then you arent paying attention

>>1800086
He usually posts a couple of times a month, bro.

mmhhmm

sure

if he had posted i would have seen it.

>>1800086
um... yeah sure
I come from time to time and find his advice casually so..

>>1800092
but you havent, and others did.
so what is your point other than that you are retarded or blind?

>>1799693

>during that 2009 'progress' year I clocked 1900hrs in tf2, and near that in cs/quake

>>1800125
Your reading comprehension really sucks.

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>>1800156
Eww, it thinks that it's funny!

>>1800198

this thread needs a pair of nuts with scrotos face on it to be complete

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>>1800267
>during that 2009 'progress' year I clocked 1900hrs in tf2, and near that in cs/quake

>>1799569
paintovers with macej 101.


jk.