/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1786566

>>1786940
You flattened the tip of the nose with your shading. Bottom of the chin is sloppy

Your line quality needs work

>>1786940

lol nice pic you got there

sb thread: repost old study thread draws edition?

>>1787653
im studying this same picture wtf!

>>1787653
lel i should have never posted old study's from /ic/

where we at /ic/?

>>1789730
right here. how did that client piece go

It went really well, I got paid a lot more then I expected. Not sure if a major publisher is picking it up or not though. Hope UL is doing fine.

>>1789740
good to hear, congrats.
I'd tell you if I knew what UL was.
Your ink work is translating nicely into your drawings as you are finally simplifying your value 'zones' to white/mid/dark; instead of coating the entire mass with value.

>>1789933
Much thanks. I thought I only mentioned that project to someone in unmotivated losers, guess not.

still drawing every day.

Stay the course.

some of today's happenings

>>1791921
I dont know man, feels like I'm seeing the same scketch for half an year. You draw contour and filling it super fast and messy, so most of the drawings looks the same, don't have character. Sorry for harshness, but that's how I feel.

>>1791921

From life or imagination?

>>1791956
What this guy said. Feels like you're not capturing the character of the person but just filling out a template with different hair and clothes.

First time posting.

What can I do better?

>>1792110
nothing, it's perfect.

unless you want to learn how to draw, but that takes a while.

>>1792111
Do you even speak English?

>>1792112
Its that time of night, constructive posts are replaced with Europoors being passive aggressive.

>>1792097
Thanks for confirming, it's something I've been thinking about for a while. What I try and think about is capturing proportions and gesture, and being efficient with lines. Capturing the character of these people is somewhere underneath those two, but the past two weeks I've been wondering. Its tough to do in 15-60 seconds.

>>1792513
Used to do the same until I realized it's pretty much impossible to make that look good. Look at Toulouse-Lautrec and Edger Degas' sketches - especially those done with pencil and pastel. Simple gesture and usually just one or two focus points that complements it like focusing on the portrait, a leg or hands.

>>1792534
First one is Degas. This one is Toulouse-Lautrec.

>>1792535
Or just do more like the one in the top right of >>1791921
I really like that one for some reason.

>>1792534
I'm a pretty uptight person myself, and doing loose pen drawings like this is like trying to change something within me. It's not even about drawings. Doing ones like the top right, or other looser ones I have posted is tough, even though I myself think they are better then my 'competent' looking sketches.

hi

>>1789740
i think you did a really good job with the black lady's skin tone

bump

bamphomet

>>1792513
just dont get discourage, bro, I wish you nothing but good.

>>1792513
These should supplement other, more focused works and studies. Take a live model figure drawing class, buy a skull, do something.
Fight till death

I've heard different thoughts on how 30-second to 1-minute gestures should be handled (Gurney even brung this up in one of his blog posts). Some feel that a simple "skeleton" is good enough, while others feel that building up a mass to better imply movement is the key.

What do you guys think?

>>1792590
Beautifu!! I love this kind of stuff

>>1795385
I'm taking my first life drawing class this fall, and that's exactly what these gestures are ramping up for.

>>1795996
was in a new city today

>>1786566
Did this today from memory/imagination.
I kind of like it.
Thoughts?

>>1796031
just fiddled it a little to make it easier to see. So scanner. :(

digital counts?

>>1796002
Are you trying to be Kim Jung-gi?

>>1796044
I'm not trying to be anyone

First time using coal in years.

>>1796133
People draw with coal?

>>1796192
My bad, apparently the correct term is charcoal.

Practicing w/ no reference

I am a novice but if I can eek out a few aesthetically pleasing bits I am happy. Perception is intimidating, sometimes scary in its scope. Im glad Im discovering visual art. Carving out light and dark even in this super basic, amateurish display makes me feel connected to something bigger.

Im sure this looks super gay

>>1796217

Oops, here is my shitty sketch

>>1796218
Lines are confident so you got that going for you.

>>1796391
Thanks! The right arm is fucked up. Left forearm is fucked up. Left hand is a big mass, doesnt really represent a hand. Cape connection at the
neck is fucked atm.
Im happy with the face though. But faces are easy

faces are easy you say? please elaborate with more works, showing us how easy they are.

:)

>>1796393
well fix it then

i'm pretty happy with how the lips turned out, I think the hair was a mistake though...

>>1798522

No dude it's ok
Looking good

>>1798522
Yeah the hair looks alright, it might be the character's hair but it looks weird to me because it seems "stuck" to her face (the bottom bits) maybe let it hang a bit and it may look more natural, good otherwise.

>>1798522
did you even think about that eyebrow or did you just stick it on like it wasn't important

>>1798551
thank you
>>1798578
hmm I like that advice a lot, it does look stuck doesn't it? thanks!
>>1798579
it was sort of plopped on, but I think it conveys what it needs too. i'll work on it

>>1786566

>>1798600

>>1798603

>>1798604
bit shit overall, no confidence being a big part of it. the face in the one i quoted is pretty balla though.

>>1798604

>>1798687

>>1798603
Everything but this figure are from imagination.
>>1798613
>no confidence being a big part of it.
Huh?

>>1796044
pfft... where the fuck did that one come from? your acute observation of that anons ink color? lmao.

>>1798522
constructions off. hair color should be least od your worries

>>1798690
he probably just actually doesn't know what he's talking about and is just spouting artistic buzzwords without proper context, ignore him

>>1798690
what i mean to say is that your drawings are too finicky and controlled. imho, that comes from you not being confident enough to let it flow nicely.

op is a fag

>>1799127

oh my

>>1799133
so many errors I know

>>1799127
quite like early freud

>>1799140
kek
haha

>>1798948
>that comes from you not being confident enough to let it flow nicely.
Not to discount the expertise of an anon, but I've been told the exact opposite of this.

>>1799169
you've been told that being less confident makes your work more flowy. that's weird.

one of the sketches I decided to color. Didn't finish tho. Got bored with it. Seems to be one of my major flaws besides the horrid lower body work.

>>1799173
From my bristle board sketchbook. It's lovely and huge. Prism color pencils are probably the best

doop

>>1799172
>you've been told that being less confident makes your work more flowy. that's weird.
No, I've been told that it does flow and my lines have confidence.

But who am I to contradict an anonymous user on /ic/.

>>1798848

>>1799176

>bristle

Bristol Board, pleb

Random coffee shop sketches

>>1799781
Random moving/fighting sketches

>>1799781
everytime i post in this thread someone gets super defensive, but i'll try again,

i like 'em, but i think you would benefit more by considering the light first. what you seem to do is mainly focus on the contour, which is fine. but it might help to sometimes at least pick out and define the different tones.

>>1799785
I don't know if my stuff is already this recognizable here or not, but I only posted those two pages in this thread today.

But yeah they are as you say they are, since I'm working at a time constraint of the subject moving at any moment.

>>1799791
It's fun because sometimes you have 10 seconds and sometimes they'll keep a pose / look for 5 minutes. It really keeps you on your toes.

>>1799791

How can I improve?

>>1799791
yes, my point is that if you want you can spend the same time you would making contours to mark out areas of tone. see you're going for something more like A where it's just as quick or quicker to do B. i don't think you should stop what you're doing, just doing a few tonal drawings too would help you out i think.

>>1799243
Love the hatching there

Two quick sketches of people I saw on the subway

>>1800719
your shading's all over the place, her "hat" is all smudged, then you tried to use cross hatching on the sleeves, and then progressive lines on the apron...
your lines need to vary a lot more in terms of weight, the face is too heavy and so are the frills on the robe.
think about varying line lengths from darker to lighter as appropriate, as well as thinking about the direction the lines need to follow, ie, the shape of the actual object your shading so they follow the contour of the "form".

and just keep practicing

on a completely different note,
>>1800850
>>1800851
i love these.

>>1800851
>>1800850
terrible chins

tried to draw my qt model waifu

>>1800850
>>1800851
very nice

>>1801093
maybe he's exaggerating their features

first tries, half of these are beyond fucked up

>>1800850
>>1800851
what type of brush pen u using? i love the textures these have

>>1801135
his left eye looks odd, like it's not lids going around a sphere. other than that great work.

20 minute pose

>>1801135
and maybe youve taken too many cocks up your ass

>>1800912
Thank you for this, it was extremely helpful

>>1801186

The plant in the middle is pretty cool

>>1792767
>hands
Im not going to suck your dick about it, but it looks pretty good

>>1795414
At first, yeah do a skeleton.
But later you will be able too see the skeleton before you draw it and you can just do the cloth/skin layer

>>1796033
how big is the canvas?
>>1796037
yep

>>1799127
>big kawaii desu eyes
Proko talked about this.

>>1800850
>>1800851
>ink and brush on a subway
True Balla

>>1801910
Who cares what that twisted little elf scrote says

>>1801319
Oh the poor baby mad at /lgbt/
kek

>>1801922
i cant even begin to pretend to give a fuck what your on about

>>1801919
>twisted little elf scrote
I laughed

>>1801926
This guy gets it.

i'm moving up the ladder with abstract art. im gonna dip my dog's foot in blue paint and stamp it on the left. then i'll draw a rabbit with pastels pointing to the robot saying, "he's right!" it'll be a hidden message pointing at the true potential of abstract art.

i'm hoping i can be famous within the next five years but i might get sidetracked with fashion so i'll say seven.

i also take commissions but be warned; i used only the most expensive and professional materials. get it soon while my name is not yet known. it'll add that much more value once i hit the ranks of Warhol and Picasso

>>1802444
k

>>1802444
Joke or no joke, older artists warn younger ones about getting too bent inside about getting famous or recognized. Read letters to a young artist or something like that. might be online - cant be fucked to find it for yall but please do. Given the general age range that /ic/ is I think it would be invaluable reading material. Especially in this age of assfuckery-bongdongery-jigglejoggleness-fedoraty-mlg420scopiciousness-topkekity that is the art world.

>>1802482
Becoming a famous artist is much more about being in the right place at the right time. Becoming a skilled artist is what's important.

Go big.
Go home.

Pick one

>>1802540
I think this post is called a platitude or a bromide. In any case, fuck off with your misleading shorter-than-haiku advice.

>>1802544
You chose:
Go home.

>>1802547
If go big means to get famous then yeah I guess I will go home.

>>1802577
Skill is big
Fame is hollow
You are stupid

>>1802582
Then you shouldn't be calling me stupid. We're talking about the same thing

>>1802583
You're right. Dumb as a box of rocks is more fitting.

>>1802585
Yeah? Takes one to know one.

>>1801897
>image.jpeg

>>1803666
looks like a north korean except the hair would violate regulations

>>1803666
Looks like a silver potato

>>1803666
The chin is receding into the neck, reverse the image and it'll be more apparent, cheek area on both sides looks flat.

>>1804007
Loving the fuck out of those shoes.

MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

bear skeleton

>>1805421
A painstaking mess

>>1805421
more value variation both tonally and line weight wise

Here's my stuff, I wanna get better at capturing figures. Critique is appreciated!

>>1792110
It's nice for stylized character art, your lines look very clean and it feels like you have a fixed style. A good question is what do you want to achieve?

Also >>1792111
Just sounds negative, and not constructive at all..

>>1792560
I know it's silly to reply to such am old post, but don't fall in love with your own style until you have developed your fundamentals.

been drawing for about 8 years

>>1806736
Kind of goes without saying.

>>1806687
Stop tracing, faggot

>>1806739
I feel bad for you, sorry

First time posting here

>>1796044
>someone else using a brush pen
>conclusion
>personality theft
stay pleb

>>1806782
What the fuck is there to trace? You're projecting like hell, brother.

>>1791910
Really nice.

>>1806782
If I was tracing that I wouldn't have shitty line quality, do you have any critiques that are not just insults?

Damn, you guys really suck XD

>>1799243
Every time I see this I always think you should have called the police instead of drawing a sketch...

>>1806999
y so mean.

>>1806736

I was talking about the inconsistency in the quality of my work, not style necessarily.

>>1806982
he was probably kidding because it's a bit fucked
I like that top one though

>>1807194
very very nice hatching

>>1802686
>on a phone
sit down, and be quiet.

>>1804281
did the forwardmost car leave?
It gives the composition an 'action' kind of feel.
I'd buy it

>>1806999
>sketchbook
>suck
Maybe you forgot your first couple of sketchbooks?

>>1807194
I miss drawing like this.
Nodawys, I spend cooped up inside like some kind of hermit.

>>1807608
Yeah, and at the time I was upset but I see what you're saying now.

>>1807610
You need a muse then.

?

>>1807889
Is that a pile of poop covered in semen with a girl coming out of the center?

Can't unsee...

>>1807889
She has leprosy?

>>1807889
Poop semon demon

>>1807889
>cumming on poo
only on 4chan

Am I doing alright? Should I post more?

>>1808695
yes and yes

>>1786566
what do you guys think?

>>1808695
here is more stuff, also what inspired to do that last one becasue my dream studio is a garage/barn in a small town in the woods, and love the idea of refurbishing an old space like that with comfy touches and technology. /ic/, whatever inspiration comes to you, do it, no matter your skill. because after all the learning and grinding and practice of anatomy and proportions and perspective and so on, it will all be useless unless you have a drive to make something.?

>>1808947
damn i sound like a drunkard. more 4 u. also critique would be nice. I know that my eyes are weird, and my proportions are a tad off, but anyhting else?

>>1804007
>ergo proxy
mah nigga

Loomis pays off. I feel progress coming in small increments.

>>1808815
Impressed. Please post more
What utensils did you use?

>>1807985
>>1808088
>>1808337
>>1808551
It's a goddamn cinnabon

>>1809138
I used an eraser, sharpener, HB, 4B and a reference pic
it was just a practice for art university next year
cheers bro

>>1809166
fucking lol

>>1809166
I fucking lost it

>>1809166

>>1809166

>>1809195
I'm mad impressed. Did you use the 4B for construction, or was this from life? And if so, where/ what?

>>1809166

>>1809212
no i just built the shape with the HB and used it for the lighter shading, the 4B was for the darker tones, it was just from a picture of a male model, although i sort of changed it a bit

How'd I do /ic/?

>>1809250
there's no fucking light source of shadows.

>>1809212
Dude, its a low res photo of what appears to be an average execution of a male torso. There's really not much here. samefag? Not that it matters, he should keep going.

>>1809166
oh man, i've been laughing all day at this.

>>1809251
Have you ever heard of a thing called diffused lighting? Not everything has to have dynamic shadows and high contrast.

>>1808947
>>1808952
where can I follow you?

>>1809250
small value range, use plastic gum for highlights,
some details are better left off (like single hair)
Regarding anatomy, overlay it with photo and see for yourself

Sorry in advance for the shitty image quality. I happen to be very far away from my scanner. I would very much appreciate some constructive feedback concerning scale and perspective. I've never had any formal training and am basically the artistic equivalent of a play by ear musician. Everything I am able to do, I've taught myself.

>>1809615
I should add, I used no reference. drawn from watching the show and from memory.

>>1809250
eyes are flat
nose tapers incorrectly
lip centerline is off
entire head mass perspective fucked
weird flowlines near nose and cheek

>>1809617
fill 100 pages before you post again
also
>not your personal blog

>>1809620
thanks for the not-so-constructive feedback dick.

>>1809628
Don't come back.

>>1809636
I'll stick around as long as I like. xD

>>1809641
Thats the spirit cantdrawforshitfag.

>>1809645
show me some of your work bigmouthregularfag

>>1809648

post deleted, what was your work?

>>1809650
i took it off since apparently it was so obscenely offensive.

>>1809652
hmm proportions off, concentrate on getting the size of skull right, then put flesh on it, and look at the distance between eyes, nose, mouth and check if you got the distance right

if you want, post reference and i'll upload a webm of ma process

>>1809654
I didnt use a reference for this only watching the show and from memory.

>>1809656

theres the problem, you got to study before you can do it from imagination

>>1809657
Ah alright. Thanks for the feedback. I'll work on it.

>>1809648
these posts should be bannable offenses.

Thank god summers almost over

>>1809166

>>1809700
LOL

>>1809700
10/10

>>1809700
We have a winrar

I need to get on that Loomis grind.

>>1809700
Why his neck is covered in shit with sperm?

First time using a pencil in a few months, and first time in like a year doing anything other than a study with a pencil. Trying my hand at character design since it is a weak point. So much fun but very hard!

>>1809855
Couple more, shedding off some of the rust and using a mechanical pencil which feels nicer

>>1809855
Did you use refs?

>>1792111
Never change /ic/
I love hearing these responses

>>1809863
Not really. I looked at a couple photos to see general design shapes, but the poses, and 80% of the design is from my head/memory. The only reference was indirect, there was no 1 for 1 copying.

>>1809884
The simple answer is 'yes' ffs you pedantic fuck

Keep creating

>>1786566
I'm starting on a sketch of a somewhat-realistic Katia Managan.

I'm having a problem with the torso and breasts. I can't seem to get them down, and if I don't figure this out I will cry myself to sleep.

>Posted on Imgur for evil bad disgusting horrible tasteful nude cat-girl.

>http://imgur.com/tHy7Y5l

The pic in on this post, however, is not my artwork.

Oh look, it's the animal fucker with his shit again

>>1810236
Oh look, it's the petty, sophomoric cynic with his rudeness again.

>>1810247
you still cant draw for shit animalfucker

>>1810272
And you still can't make a good insult worth a damn.

Seriously, though. Come around, get a cup of hot cocoa and sit on my lap. Now tell me; why does this stuff make you so angry? It's just a silly drawing, lighten up.

>>1810280
>calls you out as a furry who cant draw
>mad
pick one

>>1810198
Why does it have a donkey face??

>>1792590
what ballpoint is that? I like how rich the color is

>>1810586
ask yoursel

f

Sorry with the shitty camera pic.So any suggestions for improvements would be neat I'm kind of struggling with defining noses so tips for getting better with that would be appreciated

Bamphomet

>>1809700

>>1810659
He looks like a drug addicted pedophile.

>>1807889
>>1809166
>>1809700
saved

>>1810659
i had some trouble with noses when i started out.i just couldn't work out where i should put lines and such to make the nose clear without overly emphasizing it.

what i ended up doing was looking at some cartoons and old manly anime which still had noses and seeing how they did it. then looking at photos and my own nose to see how those simplifications lined up with real features. after drawing about 30 in a few different ways i had a much better idea.

did this overnight with a black ballpoint and a dab of red

how can I make it better?

>>1812556
fuck, I forgot the fucking pic fuck

by drawing more, or whatever.

>>1812876
Nice

I love ink

Did it on my note 3, its suprisingly fun drawing on the phone. Hope ill finish this by adding some color despite me being still a noob

from today and yesterday and the 2 guys is from a few days ago

Gesture

Am I doing it right?

>>1813211

>>1813219
sorry for huge

>>1813221

>>1813226

Drill feet. We are not interested in your excuses

>>1813229

>>1813230

You're right. Here's one with a bit of feet

>>1813236

Last one i'm dumping. Sorry for no feet and for the big dump. Will include feet and with compile these into one picture next time

>>1813236
Those are not feet.

go into mspaint and hit resize, and do it to 30 percent. I mean jesus we don't need to see the pulp of the paper.

>>1809855
>13/8/14 Wat.

>>1813472
I bet you're american and that's why you're confused. Not all countries write the date as mm/dd/yyyy
I know that here in Ausfailia, we write it as dd/mm/yyyy

>>1813519
what you mean to say is american is one of the very few retarded countries which writes the date incorrectly. not going from longest to shortest or shortest to longest but going medium to short to long like a bunch of fucks.

>>1813526
aye

did this yesterday

>>1813776
at this stage sheer work volume will yield the best results
draw draw draw

>>1813778
thank you /ic/ i feel like i'm on the right track for once. last comment i received here was from someone who told me that i was still thinking in 2D

>>1813776
>>1813780
keep it up anon, it seems you have what many lack around here which is motivation. Keep pushing through and you'll achieve great things

>>1813795
that's because this is supposed to be my job now, i must improve

I have never posted on this board before.
I drew this few months ago.

>>1813887
what have you drawn today?

>>1813887
>chicken scratch
>lined paper
>concept ripped off from General Grievous
>I drew this few months ago
kek, into the trash it goes, sticky/10

>>1813941

Nothing to completion.
I have had hard time drawing anything for the whole summer.

>>1813945
I drew it during an university lesson to my notebook.
I hardly see how it resembles GG in any way though. That critter originates from a game I partook in on /tg/.

I doodled a concept for a friend and I plan on doing more, but I didn't post anywhere else outside of via email, and the feet tell me I need to do foot studies badly.

Should I post anyway for critique purposes

>>1813519
>not using both

>>1813945

I didn't think someone could be this retarded. Bravo.

So...

>>1813887

The profile very much resembles "General Grievous" so that anon had a point. The design is bland.

is this okay?

would anyone be willing to do a quick redline just for the placement of the facial features?

>>1814580

>>1814580

>>1813776
>>1813829
You've got some great stuff man. What is your job exactly?

>>1814758
thanks! it's not really my job yet, but next year will be the first of three where i'll be expected to do nothing but illustration at school. i'm at third year of art school now, and even if i love drawing, the idea of making money with it is still pretty scary.
did this yesterday, again. i decided to go full-moebius in order to try color… so i'll roll myself a big joint, scan this drawing, and try to lose myself into sweet, soft colors. aw yiss.

>>1814981
Bangboose is crying in his beshitted diapers

>>1815042
what.

>>1814622

Why are ther 5 X but 3 Os?

>>1814622

>Why are ther 5 X but 3 Os?

>>1815076
>>1815079

great

yup ;^;

>>1814580 here

is it frowned upon to ask for a redline? i'm not a regular on this board, sorry :(

>>1815182
Bullshit like that belongs in the cancer thread; you should go there and run on a wheel like the other hamsters

>>1815189
Which one is the cancer thread, the beginner thread?

>>1815191

Pretty sure he's talkin bout the stylization thread

>>1815138

>>1814758
Is it weird or wrong that I think these are pretty tough looking, in a bad way. I think even bagbaby is much better, as far as the whole, 'naive, shaky confidence' style goes anyways.

>>1814981
>>1813776
Complete beginner
>>1814758
Are you fucking blind?

Trying to draw from imagination.
help pls

quick rough sketch of my bookcase, about to colour it

>>1815291
Bangbose detected

>>1815339
id suggest studying dog skeletons and dog anatomy etc. then once youve learned more about the insides it will help you construct the look of the outside and allow you to be more confident in your line making and forms

>>1815160
look at
drawing dynamic hands by burne hogarth
its what im currently studying from and im finding it very interesting. you can download it from somewhere
also get some plain paper. please

>>1815688
>Bangbose detected
stop pushing this shit

>>1815343
looking great! do you have more?
And in general how do you plan to draw when doing these sketches? by general volumes? not caring too much in the amount of books there are rly? etc I would like to know

Hey guys, I'm looking for a new spiral sketchbook. What I've used for years is the Cachet Studio, and more recently Global Arts Travelogue.

I was looking at the Global Arts Flip-Sketch, and was snooping around Amazon and found one, Lemac Art Show that has good reviews. Anyone have experience with either? Or a suggestion?

>>1816149
not sure if you're being sarcastic or not because its pretty scratchy and shit

but yeah started by drawing the outlines of the big objects, keeping the relative objects the right size and leaving spaces for foreground objects, then adding smaller objects. the books were based on how the books were stacked but it's not book for book or anything

pic related is sketches of the cast of freaks and geeks

>>1816199
not sarcasm tho, it looks nice.
but work on your faces tho

>>1814508

fuck loomis, this bitch needs jesus

ok

bad photo, but another sketch

one more

>>1786566
I can't get over how much I dislike the picture in the op

Sigh

>>1816358
work on your line control, draw straight lines over and over again, do exercises. they are scraggly lines. also, work on how to hold your pencil.

>>1814981
Cool

>>1815291
>Are you fucking blind?
No I'm not, I like his work. When I look at it I'm able to appreciate it and I get some joy out of it. If you don't like it, well I don't know but come on man it's not that hard to not be a cunt.
>>1815286
I don't think it's weird or wrong at all man but I do get a sense of what you mean. Each to their own I guess. I just really like some of those creature things.

>>1816436
amatuers tend to relate to other amatuers :)

>>1816382
wow, thanks man! i mostly lurked here from now and am always happy when i see your sketches. big fan.
>>1816436
he doesn't have to like my stuff, thank you for the support
>>1815291
tell me how to improve please

>>1809763
Damn man! Do you make any comix? This is super good.

>>1814981
Moebius inspired?

>>1816488
>Damn man! Do you make any comix? This is super good.

blatant samefag.

>>1816530
>hurr samefag.
keep this shit out of /ic/

>>1816475
Damn dude I bet that felt good typing that

>>1815343
Clean your room!

New thread on the way