/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1793724

Well shit, /ic/ seems to have really improved.

I stopped coming here roughly 6 months ago because if you posted anything that wasn't loomis you'd get called out.

>>1793806
holy shit you're a fucking retard

/ic/ is at its worst lately

>>1793806

Well loomis is still the buzzword for kids that want to belong to the /ic/ crowd, so there

Prisoner of war
so they lobbed off my head
laid on the ground thinkin’
aint no fun bein’ dead

>>1793806

nah these shitty "stylization" threads still get invaded often. this one hasn't been targeted yet, but someone will say something that will set everyone going soon enough.

Posted this on /a/ as well but

Can anyone here help me understand how to do layers?

I just started drawing. I noticed in all the youtube videos I watch that artists are able to color outside of the lines but it doesn't matter.

So is the process

1. Sketch (Also is it default a light blue/pink or is it something people just choose to help identify the trace lines?)

2.Add another layer to trace over it.

Now here is where it gets tricky for me.

Do you add layers for each body part?

Layer- trace hair

Layer- trace face

etc.?

>>1793901
maybe

What do you think? The creases on the skirt seem to be wrong.

>>1793901
1. sketch (you can chose whatever color you want, but make sure it's a) different color than your lineart and b) easy to see. I usually make my background grey and use a saturated green for sketching.
2. add a layer above for lineart
3. do the whole lineart in one layer (multiple layers for lineart come with experience, you don't need them now)
4. delete sketch
5. make a layer underneath for coloring. Most people use one layer for one color, so if you're gonna draw a butterfly vomiting a rainbow you'll need more layers.

>>1793901
It could be assumed that you have a brain. Use it.

Different layers would separate everything into a different sections, allowing you to limit your brush strokes to only that section, and thus giving more control. Drawing everything in one layer allows you to work quicker with less browsing through layers looking for the right thing.

Lineart should always be in 1 layer because there's literally no benefit to splitting it up, but you should be able to figure that out by 'thinking'.

>>1793901
you do it however you like. i think you're mainly asking about masks though. and the ol' preserve transparency button. there's a ctrlpaint thing about it.

here you go, http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/masking-101-pt-1-what-is-a-mask should be the easiest way to learn, it's free and everything.

>>1793911
looks pretty good. id say just work a little on how the form of the clothes wrap around

I really should plan my drawings before I start going at it, but eh.

Never sure of which thread to post in either.

>>1793911
would have made the head bigger.

>>1793911
the fingers looks liek sausages.

Is there something specific that makes this look so amateurish? Or do I just need to get good.

>>1793952
Yang!!

I think the eyes might be angled wrong. Doesn't seem to match the way his head is tilted.

>>1793996
pillow shading
lack of structure
inconsistent proportions
stiff and awkward pose/boring angle
linework is boring and lacks confidence
give you points for creativity though (unless it's fanart)

>>1793996
- Lack of contrast
- poorly defined light source
- awkward pose (what exactly is he doing?)
- odd shading on the cape

Those look the most amateurish to me, aside from the file name, but if that's his name...

>>1794002
>>1794003
Thanks, I'll focus on setting a light source and making the contrast higher, making lines more fluid, etc. He was either sitting down or getting up. It's original, the name was just to give you guys a laugh.

>>1793911

Her shoes/feet are fucking huge

>>1793729
That wasn't the point of the edit. It's not "you should do things exactly like this" but instead to present some elements that might help strengthen the image. It doesn't excuse bad hands and etc., but I did say the edit was sloppy amongst other problems. The elements are more important. I'm the last artist to be expecting 100% masterpiece edits from hahaha.

These threads

>>1793911
my 2 cents

>>1794050
nice, aside from the lack of back head.

>>1794050
fix those fokin feets they are almost half more longer then the head.

>>1794052
accualy nvm, you made the head bigger so its k.

"No matter how much you suck on my dick and the balls, you will not be able to make me bust and explode until you can relate the cumshot to a horizon."

>>1794056
>No matter how much you suck on my dick and the balls, you will not be able to make me bust and explode until you can relate the cumshot to a horizon.

Now you're getting it.

>>1794050
Pretty good. Ty for the correction.

>>1793622
I am having a bit of trouble understanding how to "Imply" the shape of the nose that clips the farthest eye, someone has mentioned to use value to describe the clipping without drawing a line.

>>1794103

>>1794112

>>1794138
>farts.jpg
>no actual farts
>tfw fart fetish
where did you get the face "models" from? They look almost useful.

>>1794138
This gives me more questions but I'll figure it out I haven't felt so frustrated in a long time I'm having fun again!

>>1794138
probly the shittiest redline ive seen

>>1794155
Care to weigh in on this issue with something of your own approach? At least he's trying to solve this problem.

>>1794138
Also that "dot" is a landmark for the bottom of the nose and to keep things from going into uncanny valley territory I just think of the shadows of the nose.

>>1794153
They often come with figurines.

>>1794155
Yeah it's not even red

>>1793911
bretty gud

like already commented your fingers seem a bit too big also the space between them is too big, where fingers connect to the hand make a "v" shape not "__"

Do you have any more?

>>1794155

You forgot to mention loomis. You have to mention it if you want to be taken serious

>>1794262
>Do you have any more?

Yes but it is lewd stuff so I won´t show here.

>>1794320
you what ?

>>1794320
where will (do) you show it?

I have to see more

>>1794320
why not show it here?

>>1794112
i'm not an expert, but i gave it a try.

>>1794404
you made her look stoned

>>1794404
Hey thanks I really appreciate your input.

>>1794320
/ic/ is nsfw, don't fear to post here

>>1793279

First of all, fuck you man for not following even half of the corrections I made in the first redline. I attempted a paint over of your drawing to put in place the corrections I was trying to point out. As you can see, I'm awful at painting digitally, I don't give a fuck about the background, and trying to copy your style, but hopefully you get the gist. Your coloring/color choices aren't bad, but your rendering of form is. Not only are your bones/muscles in incorrect places, but they're rendered so strangely that they look somehow flat and round at the same time. I'm not sure how you even managed to accomplish that. Your faces also look extremely uncanny, and I tried to retain the stylization, while also rendering it as much as the rest of their bodies. It still looks like they're wearing kigurumi masks, but at least they're shaded correctly now.

When you're painting, use a fucking reference if you're not sure what something looks like. Start compiling reference images of buff ladies for your bodies, and look at photos of anime figures for your faces. Anime figures are a decent adaptation of something 2D to 3D so that you can get an idea of how form is supposed to work.

To be honest, I really don't even know why I'm bothering with this anymore, but I guess I'm THAT bored.

>>1794112
Worry not. Your savior Mark Crilley is here to help. Just reverse what he says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xn6YrIlF74

>>1794493
You know, I think I'm just going to have to sacrifice the nose bridge so there wouldn't be a cupping like the one shown in the reference >>1793610

The only possible way for this drawing to have cupping is with a nose bridge but then that would cause unpleasant looks and a completely different character.

No Crilley, only Loomis.

>>1793724
>No matter how much you know of anatomy and the construction of the figure, you will not be able to draw figures form imagination until you can relate the different parts of the figure to a horizon


sauce on this? and what the fuck does it mean "relate figure to a horizon"? fit it in perspective? I don't even...

>>1794504

>>1794496
can you explain how you set up your color pallete

>>1794517
I just pretend that there is no such thing as black to keep it simple.

>>1794050
You changed the story of the image with that face change. It's a completely different character now.

>>1794404
He wants to "imply" the nose clipping not just draw it in brah.

>>1794496
The left eye is completely fucked. Please don't paint that until you fix it.

>>1794504

It's referring to the horizon line used in basic perspective. The quote is basically trying to say that to be able to draw anything without a reference, you need to be able to break down the human body into simpler shapes and forms (i.e. cylinders, boxes, etc), and then you need to know how to draw those simple shapes in perspective to the horizon line. Here's a quick example to try and explain it.

>>1794477
oh dear god i'm sorry senpai. I honestly have no idea how it could end up like that because I literally used your redline as a multiply layer over mine to check if the things were in place or not. i probably fucked up during therendering process.

i'n studying your paint over and it seems that i got too lost in the tiny details that i forget the vales of the overall form, looking at yours; i shaded every part as a single section rather than the whole thing as a single form.

i'm a little afraid to go back to references as that was part of the core of my "2d face 3d body" problem came from, but it's probably a matter of learning how to eventually apply it rather than blindly copying it...

don't get me wrong, i -really- appreciate your help...

>>1794521
are you associating black and white with light?

>>1794575
I'm trying not to because apparently there is no such thing as black it's the absence of light and that same light has all the colors that turns white.

>>1794572

What the fuck is wrong with you. Stop saying senpai

>>1794589

>>1794589
okay okay i'll stop sorry. i'll properly study both your redline and your paint over once i get off work

>>1794592
Not him, but don't stop it's cute.

>>1794585
have you studied absorption yet?

>>1794593

No, it's not. It's autistic.

>>1794596
>>1794589
>actually giving a fuck

>>1794592
you can always call me senpai instead of that other jerk.

>>1794597

I'm helping him not to fucking embarrass himself.

>>1794594
No I can't say I have is it how the same color of light bounces off an object of the same color and if it is a different color it disappears?

>>1794598
>>1794592
>>1794600

I can't stop laughing.

>>1794602
yes that sounds about right, however color doesn't just disappear
have you ever read up on the natural frequencies and given frequencies of objects?

natural frequency is like the dna code of an object which we can break down to RGB. if you had previous knowledge from color theory you would know that in the additive color theory all colors combine to create white, and the subtractive theory to create black.that of which serve different purposes for mediums(so we only need to focus on the additive theory since our monitors deal with RGB.

the color code for white is 255(R),255(G),255(B), and for black 0,0,0. so we know that all objects have different codes of color that of which all three can be affected by light, so the codes range from all the colors in the visible spectrum which includes white, black and grey. it would be best to assume light not as a color but an event of intensity acted on the object.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/Lesson-4/Natural-Frequency

>>1794613
wrong link
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/light/Lesson-2/Light-Absorption,-Reflection,-and-Transmission
second paragraph deals with it

>>1792104
ooh nice colors and Lum under glass. :D

Have some Thor-futa done at SDCC. He/She's very confused at the moment.

>>1794615
>>1794613
This is good stuff I love these sort of things, here's a little treat for sharing maybe you'll find it interesting or not nevertheless it's very curious.

http://youtu.be/Y-rQwUFrmMg

>>1794547
oh yeah you're right, i even missed his reference image. derp, oh well.

>>1794616
i am SO glad i don't draw porn for a living.

>>1794637
I bet you don't draw for a living at all lel

>>1794641
it's true, but still makes me glad if that's the only choice.
nothing against, Grey. i think he's good at what he does. it's just that drawing huge deformed dicks would slowly kill me inside.

>>1794646
One man's grave displeasure is another's greatest delight.

>>1794616
people are allowed to sell porn in SDCC?

>>1794616

You got a tumblr with your work somewhere? this some good shit bro

Its kinda sad to see how many people limit themselves to the same cutesy blob sameface shit when there are so many interesting ways of drawing animu.

>>1794758
This
Also where is Kyle

So just wondering if this concept had something worth exploring or should i just throw it away.

>>1794795
Youre very good at coloring between the lines :^)

>>1794795
I think you should just dump it. There are too many unnecessary lines and points for some reason and it just doesn't look good.

>>1793911
Is there somewhere I can follow you? I love it.

>>1794758
Are you a feminist or something? There is only one beautiful face, the rest are ugly iterations of western weeaboos. You don't know much about anime, do you?

>>1794900
>one
huh, which one?

>>1794900

babbies first troll

this can't be a genuine oppinion

I refuse to accept this poster actually states what he actually believes

hold me /ic/

>>1794943
/ic is the playground of trolls, man. Artists just think too much of themsleves.

>>1794946
>Autists just think too much of themsleves


fixed for your convenience

>>1794637
Well, I can draw Chibi too. Pic Related.

>>1794660
You can sell adult material. Just need to sign a form. To keep the kiddies from seeing what I was drawing I had a sheet of copy paper taped to the board as a cover and drew behind it. I can't imagine what it looked like from the other side.

>>1794661
Sorry no Tumblr. I've been told I should create another site for my adult material, but procrastination and distractions get in the way. But thank you.

I can also do Kitties! A page from SDCC with some layouts and then Dirty Pair doodles while waiting for and drawing on the plane back.

>>1794992
>more Dirty Pair
Yesss

>>1794992
>yawn

DINNER PARTY
I'm calling this done for now. Any opinions?

>>1794988
You should make a nsfw tumblr

>>1795109
Too much detail on the cap

>>1795109
learn to paint

>>1795111
Hm, I thought it was a nice variation from the rest of the painting. I'll think about it

Work in progress

Half the shit in that last thread was cringe worthy levels of bad.

>>1795184
We're here to improve, not impress other anons

>>1795180
That is actually very cute. I hope you won't make it sexual.

>>1795201
Why are people on /ic/ such "MUH PURITY" faggots? Who cares if he makes it sexual? It's his piece, he can do what he fuarkin wants m8.

>>1795243
he was just making a suggestion

>>1795109
the cap really doesn't fit too well with the whole composition

try using value differentiation rather than black lines for it, that seems to be the dominant theme in you whole painting right now. assuming this is a minimalism thing

>>1795187
Yeah but we can't help any one unless they first study the basics. I was there too anon.

rough sketch, any tips?

>>1795272
so far so good
>>1795284
I missed you!

>>1795284
Please go.

Who's your favorite cartoonist /ic/?

still need some clean up

>>1795284
That has got to be the scariest looking dick I have ever seen. The only motive to even draw that has got to be a substantial amount of Shekel.

>>1795295
where can I follow you?

>>1795295
nice got a site?

>>1795299
>>1795297
Why, so you can go on a witch hunt if you find something you are not fond of?
>>1795295
Don't ever share your info with these cunts they'll fuck with your name Tehmeh is a prime example and I don't even need to mention Teal.

>>1795295
yo that anatomy tho
her right breast is too far up

>>1795305
You sound jealous and petty fuck off this one has potential he's not a hack like those fags you listed

>>1795307
she

>>1795306
lolol yup. saw that just as i posted

also no sites

>>1795307
No, I am not going to let this one get fucked over by you faggots I am going to tell him up front right now what's going to happen.
>>1795295
Listen you, /ic/ has been ravaged by cancerous Social Justice Warriors and Feminists, if one of these catch wind of anything they do not like mark my words they'll cry for blood and even go as far as finding your contact information and basically ruin your reputation and whatever connections you have as you may be labeled one of the following:

Pedophile
Homophobic
Intolerant
Bigot
Racist

With how politically correct the West is right now nobody will want to associate or do any form of business with somebody listed above. Be very careful what you share, post and upload especially if you have a blog or a website with your contact info.

>>1795311
I love you.

I've taken nnumerous life drawing classes and seem to do fine with drawing what I see, but I seem to always have trouble trying to come up with poses straight from my head without reference without the anatomy looking wonky or stiff.

Advice on how to improve?

>>1795314
And here's some recent figure drawing

>>1795311
thats why I own guns.

FAL+steel core FMJs>SJWs/femnazis

Oh and im brown, so the liberal media will write it off as "gang violence" and life goes on.

Thoughts and feelings

>>1795305
whats this about tehmeh and teal?
storytime plz
ive only been here for a little less than month

>>1795314
watch out with the waist
looks like it gets too thin at some points

>>1795319
teal was a very helpful redliner, eventually someone found his blog or whatever and he likes to draw a lot of pedophilic drawings, mainly rule 34. he was bullied and stopped coming to /ic/

>>1795319
Check the Archives, I don't want to derail the thread with this bullshit I just don't want to see it happen again with said Anon above.

>>1795322
>he was bullied and stopped coming to /ic/

Good.

I just got clip studio paint!

>>1795324
>He realized you lot have your heads stuck so far up your asses there's no helping.

ftfy.

How's my thief? I was inspired by a mixture of Akira Toriyama's art and that of Wind Waker. I have no Idea what colors look good together or how shadows work. obviously still learning.

>>1795325

Cute!

>>1795325
Your anatomy is all over the place, brougham

>>1795334
what sticks out the most? please explan so I can get better

>>1795295
this is probably one of the best things i've seen on /ic/ in a long time. really, nice work

>mfw people bring up tehmeh
nothing he has done even compares to the quality of this piece from this noname artist

>>1795337
>giraffe neck
>arms are an uneven length
>facial features are disproportionate
>mail doesn't follow the contour of the arms
Bone up on your anatomy and keep your forms in mind as you're going over and adding details and clothing.

Keep on drawing, mang.

>>1795295
>>Highly detailed with every bone landmark and muscle group
>>Fucked up tit

Nice 3d model you got there.

>>1795341
thabks, I see it now

>>1795325
Neck is too long. Eyes are too wide apart. Head shape seems proper enough but it looks as if the hair wraps around too closely to the head on the sides like a piece of cloth. Here's a poorly made edit, I hope it helps.

>>1795295
Do you even make anything aside from kawaii uguu naked girls?

You jelly?

>>1795295
Whoa, beautiful. I love the shifts in color for the skin tone and its softness juxtaposed with the harder rendering of the hair.

As Anon said, right breast might be a tad high and a little smallish compared to the left, but you nailed it purdy much.

still in progress so it will be awhile before its finished. especially since its being done by mouse

>>1795389
>its being done by mouse

It's like you want to give yourself Carpal Tunnel.

>>1795365

Conflicting perspectives

>>1795391
yah if youre an idiot and just use your hand

>>1795389
Pretty nice, though it's a little bit boring. Just a 3/4 head and shoulders shot of a girl smirking off into space. Try fiddle with the expression a bit? Make her shoulders point a different way? Mix up the composition or something.

>>1795403
its referenced so its not from imagination

>>1795404
Even so, doesn't mean you can't fiddle with the reference :)

>>1795404
>>1795403
ill do something more of value once i grab a tablet

thanks for making my rei sketch the op image!

here's a wip

>>1795421
Cute, dynamic pose. My critiques are...

> her eyes are wonky

> what is her left (our right) hand doing?

>>1795429
Also her left (our right) leg is off, either perspective or anatomy-wise.

>>1795430
thanks i'm gonna extend the length of the boot a bit, i think that'll even it out. the eyes will fall in place naturally with coloring.

>>1795330
I could def use some feedback on this if anyone can spare the time

>>1795311
It's the opposite. /ic/ has been invaded by good for nothing weebs from /a/ and /jp/ that will talk about anything except drawing.
You're already throwing a trantum over fucking NOTHING, and that anon just barely arrived at ic.
Just stop treating people so special. He's barely here and you already treat him as some infallible god.
You are the worst type of cancer. you're fucking useless. If your purpose here is to build fanclubs, kindly fuck off already.

fuck the background.
not knowing how to draw smoke and fire

>>1795526
Please don't spend so much time rendering something like that before you can draw figures. Not trying to be rude, but not knowing how to draw smoke are fire are the least of your worries.

>>1795353
Fuck it makes me laugh when people trying to diminish someone's abilities with this shit. I bet you couldn't paint 1/10 as good as this guy, naked or not.

finally done

>>1795538
What are her breasts doing? They look like they're trying to escape from her

>>1795538
edit w/ added brastrap

>>1795540
bouncing? that's what yoko's breasts do they jiggle like jello on a hula dancer's ass

>>1795544
you should practice drawing figures.

>>1795544
It has a fuzzy look that makes my brain hurt

Good morning

>>1795540

They share the same magnetic properties and repel each other. Haven't you ever watched anime?

>>1795544
Oh hey

>>1795587
>Watching anime

Anime has not much to do here.These breasts look weird.

>>1795607

/ic/ is truly autistic

>>1795657
and you are the poster child for these cancerous threads

>>1795521
Well regardless of SJW or weebs from /a/ and /jp/ one thing remains clear, if you share your information here you will more than likely receive some form of drama.

I don't want to see this form of bullshit unravel again I swear /ic/ is mostly comprised of Women and that chart we had last year only confirms this.

is it true that you learn more by drawing then painting ?

>>1795752
you learn to draw by drawing and you learn to paint by painting.

You can be good at rendering stuff but be terrible at drawing and you can be good at drawing but terrible at rendering.
I'd personally prefer being good at drawing tho.

Trying out a different angle I don't like doing, how'd it turn out?

>>1795848
Jesus Christ, are you a troll?

If not - and I kinda hope you are - you desperately need Loomis. You are NOT too good for Loomis, so fucking read it.

>>1795848
better then before but you dont have any indication of chin. now she looks like someone punched in her jaw. I suggest looking at many styles and how artist handle them. Right now you are taking normal head and stylizing it witch is hard. if you have normal head then just draw a normal head you will learn more. grab also stylized heads form different angles and study them. I think of them more as a specific shape that resemble human head.

>>1795858

Why are people on /ic/ so desperately trying to turn loomis into a buzzword

Poor Loomis doesn't deserve that

>>1795866

>>1795870
loomis has been a /ic/ meme for like 5 years, they're not trying to do anything, it's done.

>>1795319
Teal delete all his drawings from account.
Even new Teal account was deleted recently.
Looks like some people stalk him.

>>1795879
seriously after all he had done he cant even draw in peace ?

>>1794477
I couldn't study properly without even at least trying to pick up things from your paint-over. I can't say I agree with the face on the girl on the right, but I did pick up quite a few things going through your paint-over quite throughly.

Thanks again for being patient, now I have to dig through my resources to find things specifically about the skeleton as most of it is about muscle structure instead...

>>1795866
Good to know, yeah it's difficult trying to figure out how to make things work from using a real reference but it's fun its like solving a puzzle.

>>1795879
>>1795880
it's his own fault if he's ashamed by it. he shouldn't have deleted his stuff in the first place

>>1794477
I really couldn't study properly without even at least trying to pick up things from your paint-over. Call it a OCD or whatever but I'd feel terrible if I don't at least acknowledge the things others are doing for me. I can't say I fully agree with the face you did for the girl on the right, but I did pick up quite a few things going through your paint-over quite throughly.

Thanks again for being patient, now I have to dig through my resources to find things specifically about the skeleton as most of it is about muscle structure instead...

>>1795295
Wow, it really looks like a 3dcg model

>>1795888
Dang, what did he even draw?

>>1795926
western cartoon lolis.

>>1795848

>>1795928
That's so cute thanks for that, you must be the same Anon who gave me my first red line about almost a year and a half ago.

>>1795928
are those lines stabilized? they're nice and neat.

>>1795534
>Fuck it makes me laugh when people trying to diminish someone's abilities with this shit.
Way to put words into my mouth, Anon.

He's technically good, but holy fuck does it get boring after the first few pictures. If anything, I'd argue he's staying in his comfort zone.

>>1795936
Stabilizer: 15
>>1795932
Quite possible.

>>1795959
or he just likes pin ups..

>>1795848
Without stylizing further there is too much space between the upper lip and nose. The bottom lip falls roughly in the midpoint between the chin and the bottom of the nose.

>>1795960
Turn it off and you will see how bad your lines are.
It ha happen to me

>>1796006
Yeah you are correct I fixed the chin and it looks much better now my only excuse was that I remembered hearing Vilppu say that the proportions of a child has a chin that is almost non existent. Thanks for the advice everyone I feel like I learned a whole lot

>>1796010
It's just a tool, the stabilizer alone doesn't magically grant me ability to draw good lineart and turning it off doesn't make me unable to draw smooth lines.
Having it at 15 simply feels most natural to me.

>>1796011
I think the chin you had was more like that of a Neanderthal.

>>1796036

a qt neanderthal loli would be interesting

>>1795657
Just stating that just because It's anime Isn't an excuse.

what's the name of the artist that made all of those animator sheets on pixiv?

>>1796065
0033

>>1796063

That post with the magnetic tits was obviously tongue in cheek, don't be obtuse.

>>1796070
What makes you think that?

>>1796071

Jesus Christ

>>1796036
Well I am glad I posted it here for you guys to be honest.

>>1796075
I mean for you guys to be honest about it

>>1796075
don't be glad. how about trying harder you fucking slut

>>1796078
Even my boss calls me a slut since he fools around a lot this is scary

>>1796078
That's un-nice!

Redlining would be appreciated (especially with arms, hands and boobs).

Thanks for the past tip about depicting more form, I think I could go further but since it's stylized I wanted to keep it simple.

>>1796094
I was going to tell you how you fucked the perspective because he looks like a midget and she's huge, then I realized this must be /ss/.

>>1796080
Are you a QT slut? Pls be in Yonkers.

>>1796094
fuck yeah /ss/ man.
the thing that is incorrect is the boys torso and probably womans neck area.

Damn, I haven't been following these threads. Anyone got an archive of Teal's non-ic shenannigans?

>>1796097
work on your values firez!

>>1796126
What is wrong with his torso?

>>1796094
can't redline atm but:

the boy is all kinds of fucked up proportionally, mostly from the waist the penis is in the wrong place

the woman looks great except or boob seems way to low even if it's supossed to hand down, you should see it just over her elbow where her arm bends

>>1796249
>the boy is all kinds of fucked up proportionally

you have to be more precise. All I can think of is lowering his chest and hip slightly

>>1796097
I tried.

>>1796290
it's good

>>1796106
Go away.

>>1796193
S...Sorry

>>1796290
Thanks a lot for this!

Traditional inks using my new Pentel Pocket Brush. Not sure if I want to marker it up or do colors in the computer... maybe both.

>>1796314
didn't you post a video of yours showing your workflow... or was that someone else

on the off chance that it was you, do you mind posting the link to it again?

>>1796314
If you want him to look more like the actual character, Spike has slightly outwards curved eyes, not inwards.

>>1796326
I just did a video of a sketch doodle a while back, not really a workflow. But if this is what you're looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weZCPcEu1TE

>>1796327
I suppose I did give him an Asian look. I could change it if I make a print (or make it "my own"). Original stays though. Too messy markering over white out.

>>1796338

How much money have you made through your art so far?

>>1796338
oh yeah, that's the one! much appreciated.

>>1796314
You should either look at some references or do the pose yourself before you decide to draw i.

Left arm is rather awkward. Otherwise, wouldbuypornfrom/10.

>>1796348
Money was good enough when I was consistently working (not goofing off and being lazy) and had a roommate. Now, not so much. As a freelancer, you have to have a good work ethic and be able to constantly network with editors or have an agent to get you jobs.

The Pro side to being a Freelancer is a home studio and flexible hours (as long as you get your work done).

Comics can be good and entertaining to start out with, but you'll soon hit a pay ceiling and most likely move to a different career, storyboarding, concept art, having a Wall o' Prints at conventions...

>>1796349
np.

>>1796351
Scanned in and adjusted arm. Looking at the original and the new version, I still favor the first a bit. It seems to have more energy to the pose, like Spike is bouncing around.

The original scan without the perspective.

>>1796471

So at your level do you think you could have stretched it out to full-time / liveable income, or would you definitely need a job on the side as well?

>>1796482
It can be a liveable wage if you keep yourself relevant. If one keeps their name out there, and prove that they're reliable and still producing good work, adjusting style as the new kid on the block changes the mainstream style, then it's quite possible. Many older artists may stay in the realm of the comic style, but switch gears to illustrating licensed characters, or doing licensing work for posters, magazines, etc.

If you are creative enough, you can write your own ticket like a Fred Perry, Adam Warren, or Phil Foglio and make your own properties, staying clear of the mainstream genres.

One can make a living at art, but you still have to keep in mind that it's work and you have to produce.

thoughts?

>>1796471
I personally find the edited one a lot better.

1. If this were to be painted over, is it too scribbly/sketchy? would it matter?

2. What clothes should i put on her?

3. How would I fix her right arm?

>>1796541
>breasts as big as her eyes
>dat scrawny neck

>>1796541
1. I'd personally clean up the lines, but if you're going for a painterly look then whatever.

2. Muh high school uniform, right?

3. Her delts are way too big, she looks like she's been doing nothing but lateral raises at the gym all day. Her tits are too low on her torso, her arms are too long.

4. Cute lamp and fan.

>>1796527
i think it's pretty darn awesome

>what?! a black woman can't have rainbow line-art?!!

>>1796527
Nice. It'd make an interesting album cover.

>>1796527
where's the 3D model you used for this?

>>1796546
>>1796543
drawing 1.01 patch notes:
shrinked delts
raised tits
(didn't shrink arms yet, imma leave it like this and see how it fares once the clothes go on, would that be a good idea?)
made her right eye a little smaller, but the breast size doesn't seem to be an issue

>>1796570
Looks a lot better. I'd raise her boobs even more though, the connection between the far side of her left breast and her left pec looks too long. You've actually suggested the contour of the muscle with a faint line there, it's like her breasts are resting at the very bottom of her pec rather than closer to the middle. Eye definitely looks better, delt is a lot more feminine, clothes thing is your call. What else are clothes for if not to hide your lack of anatomy knowledge, right? Overall good job, friend.

>>1796570
HNGH
all my fetishes....

>>1796570
Also, when I say "her left" I mean her left as in from her POV. Thought I'd note that because you called her right eye what I'd call her left eye.

derping in sai

>>1796471
you're incredibly skilled.

One of my comic pages.

>>1796643
>derping

operative word also

>>>reddit

Yes, I'm a giant faggot. Pls crit

>>1796662
You are in dire need better panel composition.

>>1796662
isn't the dad being a cat from that anime..azumanga is it?

>>1796686
apply yourself

>>1796686

first of all, your lines are pretty shaky.

>>1796686
there is no form

..i-is dfc on the rise?!
did /ic/ finally get good taste?

>>1795330

Can't offer you any in depth feedback but I really like the blue and the yellow clothing. Solid choice for that style.

I think the turquoise hair might clash a bit, it doesn't look right. Maybe consider going for a more pastel, downplayed colour so its not at odds with the clothing?

Good luck!

>>1796756

fuck off /a/

>>1796750
not him but how do you get more solid lines? practice?

I have hand tremors so I basically can't really do any better than that.

Learning anatomy at the moment. Thought I might try making a pin-up / comic / punk rocker girl. Left hip is all fucky and the feet are fucked cause I haven't got to that part in the book yet. Also need to fix up the face, it's looking a bit flat.

Don't know how to ink in PS so this one is probably finished with after I fix everything up.

Any other major flaws I'm missing?

>>1796801
Paint tool sai, mangastudio/clip studio, crank up the stabilizer.

Maybe photoshop will get a decent one by 2020

>>1796801
zoom in close when doing lineart and use your arm. Use layers per stroke if neccesary, use marquee tool if neccesery for elipses.

>>1796804
There's something really off about the head, but I can't quite articulate it.

>>1796809

Yeah I made her face a bit too large for her head, or her head too small for her face, and it has no shape to it. It's pretty flat. I can't draw heads or faces for shit.

>>1796811
It's more than that, the shape of the head is off, one ear sticks out way more than the other, etc.

>>1796813

Yeah, I know. No matter how many fucking head and face tutorials and resources I go through I simply can't draw them. I grasped anatomy quick otherwise, but fucking heads..

>>1795295
you should join the skype group! Some of us want to talk to you!

>>1796805
Stabilizer is a very bad crutch and it will fuck up your drawing ability permanently. You don't need stabilizer to draw decent lines. Michael Hampton just to name one example, uses photoshop in his analytical figure drawing lessons and he has better line quality than any weeb SAI artist on the fucking planet.

>>1796817
>arguing about line quality, instead of trying to improve content and anatomical and perspective accuracy.
this is beyond pathetic.

>>1796817
>permanently

Where do you get this garbage? Stabilizers are tools, like Ctrl+z, and everything else in digital art.

Firstly, the guy says he has hand tremors. Maybe that's a joke, and he's just on a shitty $50 dollar Best Buy tablet, I don't know. I'm just telling him that it's 2014 and there are tools to close the gap between paper and tablets.

>>1796686
muh flat chest

>>1796811

The hair style makes the head look more odd-shaped than it actually is, too.

>>1796823

Yeah you're right, better give him no advice at all

fucking /ic/ man

>>1796804
>>1796809

The problem is it's not centered over her torso. If you were to look at her straight on, her neck would connect somewhere over her left clavicle.

also, face is too big, and her boobs don't follow the contour of her torso. The right one is connected to her serratus.

>>1796881

Thanks man, didn't even notice half that shit.

Forgive me ignorance but Is it just me or can almost nobody outside of japan draw manga that actually looks like authentic manga

I want to get into manga drawing but I don't know where to get authentic instruction that would allow my manga to look authentic instead of some foreign guy trying to figure out the style and fail

>>1796944
Nobody bothers because there is no industry for manga outside of Japan. Also, what kind of instructions do you expect? Learn your fundamentals, especially figure drawing and perspective, then copy the style of manga artists you want your work to look like. it's not rocket science and there are no magical industructions for it either.

>>1796944
There are plenty of how-to-draw-manga books by Japanese authors, look them up.

Deleted my post trying again

I want to get very formal percise instruction in drawing authentic manga. The problem is when I go through google i'm swarmed with "mark criley" and other people who don't have manga drawing down at all trying to advertise their drawing classes etc

I'm new to all this but i've yet to find many artists who can draw manga that comes across as authentically done as the manga done by the pro artists in japan. Maybe ignorance or bias or both but thats how it feels

TL:DR how can I get instruction to get good like the professionals in japan without spending a buttload of money flying there

Hopefully this one is better. A one-page comic

>>1796958

You make friends with another Japanese artist. Don't know Japanese? Well tough luck.

>>1796958
>I want to get very formal percise instruction in drawing authentic manga.

I don't think you really understand how this whole art thing actually works. What "precise instructions" are you expecting? You learn to draw, you study the fundamentals, you get good at perspective, you study the composition and panel layouts of comics / manga you feel are very strong and you copy artists whose stylistic choices you want to understand and incorporate into your own work. There is nothing else to it. There's no secret instruction that japanese master-mangaka teach their students at a hidden zen temple on top of Mt. Fuji that no whitu piggu is allowed to enter.

>>1796953
>Copy the style of manga artists you want your work to look like

No. I'm looking for a high quality of instruction that matches what the people go through in japan who got good at it. I want my own style from a delicate and hard earned understanding of the practice. This can be in any form from websites to vids or tutorials but I just have no clue how to find people who are providing this kind of instruction

What i'm getting at is, without a strong foundational plan to practice this, i'm not going to get anywhere no matter how much I train. I need to know the type of instruction/resources used by the people who got good at drawing manga to model my training to actually deliver the results i'm looking for. If my training isn't designed to bring those results then I couldn't get them no matter how insightful or creative or hard and long my practice sessions are because they're not designed to make that specific result happen

Practicing really hard isn't enough. It has to be quality practice

>>1796969
how good do you draw now?

>>1796969
you either are unbelievably dumb or a pretty decent troll.

One last time: Japanese manga artists, just like any other competent artists study the FUNDAMENTALS of art. Most importantly, they study ANATOMY, PERSPECTIVE, COMPOSITION and PANEL LAYOUTS. Their STYLE is how they superficially present those fundamentals. Just go visit the art board on 2chan which is full of hentai artists and aspiring manga artists and look what they are doing. Ironically, they have even a bigger hard-on for Loomis than /ic/ does.

>>1796971
Pretty much as beginner as it gets. I'm mid 20s now and just joked around with anime drawing in highschool. I have not yet begun a single day in dedicated quality practice to manga drawing or drawing in general or a dedicated study of the aspects of this process that would reveal ways to further my skill. But seeing results of the artists here and the very helpful community this is has really sparked a serious interest in drawing that I want to take to the highest level possible.

I do apologize for being frustrating due to the fact that I pretty much know nothing about the art world and have nothing but incorrect assumptions to go by.

>>1796979
This.
All good Japanese comic book artists and animators get their style and skill from the same fundamentals as western artists and animators.

>>1796983

>>1796985
thats the guy who worked on little witch academia right? fucking awesome.


that being said I read on here that not even loomis used his own method that he taught? Is that true? if so what did he use or was that poster a troll?

>>1796992

It seems whatever is said on this board spreads like wildfire. I mean what the fuck, every little gossip, every little advice, every post, every image, spreads like ebola.

>>1796992
>not even loomis used his own method that he taught? Is that true? if so what did he use or was that poster a troll?

Dunno, but even if it's true it doesn't invalidate Loomis. Just shows that there's more than one way to learn drawing decently.

>>1796992
>I read on here that not even loomis used his own method that he taught?

If you've actually read and studied from Loomis you would know that he indeed used his method as it was most logical at the time; he is known for his divided ball and plane method as well as his knowledge on perspective and figure drawing.

I believe that when learning there are no such things as stupid questions but you're pushing buttons right now and it's starting to become quite silly.

>>1796992
Yoh Yoshinari, yeah.

>>1796992
Loomis was from the golden era of illustration. Many of those guys learned in the old academic tradition (cast drawings, then live models, etc.) and used live models for reference when making finished pieces. So no, he probably didn't.

>>1796979
>You are either unbelievably dumb or a pretty decent troll

I'm neither of those anon.


I hope you never speak to another anon asking for help like that again. Your advice would be better received and easier to read if you took all the inconsiderate rude behavior out of your post.

This kind of rude conduct is cancer.

>>1797018

>>1796999
Loomis was a direct student of Bridgman, so yes, he most definitely did use the constructions he taught because that was how he was taught to approach the human figure. It's unbelievable with what confidence idiots like you start spouting rumours as if they were widely known facts.

how could art before loomis exist

impossibru

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>>1797049
>>1797049
>>1797049

>>1796998
>>1796985
>>1796983
The funny thing is that Yoshinari's art style just so happens to be rather unorthodox as far as professional Japanese anime artists go. Coincidence? I think not.

>>1796958
Consider that manga is a japanese word for comic... and even a word they don't use that often (they use 'comic' most of the time). What they do is simply study figure drawing and some animation related stuff and you don't need to go to asia for that, you can go to an animation college in california and learn the same stuff those guys learn... I had classmates from korea and japan when I studied in san francisco, those guys wanted to work for miyazaki... there were 'mangakas' that studied at my college... The reason they look 'legit' instead of like the crappy imitation mango some do is because the ones you see as legit are the ones done by people who actually learned figure drawing and perspective and have a better grasp at simplification/stylization. I've seen manga drawn by japs that look as bad or worst that mark criley's stuff (and manga style stuff drawn by westerners that look professional because... well, it was drawn by professionals)

Also... don't bother drawing a 'manga' if you are not asian yourself... People that like manga don't care for non-japanese comics, they might like your artwork and buy it as posters or prints or stickers or whatever, but won't be reading what you write simply because you aren't japanese even though they are learning to draw manga themselves (I know, fuck weaboos right?)

>>1797056
Well he's a huge westaboo.

>>1794511
Thank you, that was really usefull

>>1794551

Thanks anon, did you draw this? it's gud

Card illustration for a tabletop game I`m working on with a friend. Also my very first post on this board after 2 years of lurking. I`ll ne honest, I kinda like it but I`m not sure I haven't dislocated his right leg... Well, tell me what needs fixing /ic/.

>>1797064
>Also... don't bother drawing a 'manga' if you are not asian yourself...

Yeah mang, because no one has ever used an alias before and everyone knows everything about every single manga artist, right? You're completely retarded.

>>1795526
>Kappa.jpg

>>1796968
WHITE PIGGU GO HOME

MANGAKAS STRONG

YOU WANT BURGER?
FINE
YOU WANT BOMB US?
FINE
YOU WANT MANGA?
NEVER

>>1796958
>>1796969
i'll give you a reply in the new thread soon

>>1794153
figma.

hit up goodsmile.co or figma.jp