/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I can tell something's off, but I just can't seem to figure out what.
Any feedback is appreciated.

>>1776719

ugly brushstrokes on the shirt (just my onion)

>>1776720

SHREK

IS THAT YOU

>>1776719

try flipping and gridding to see how you are off from the original

>>1776720
I had planned on rendering the shirt eventually, but the sloppy brushwork sort of grew on me.
>>1776726
Thanks, this really does help point out all the mistakes, but I can't help feeling like using a grid is somehow cheating.
Seeing as this is a study, is it OK, or is eyeballing everything a better way to learn?
Sorry if this is a stupid question.

>>1776741
You don't use the grid while you're drawing.

>>1776741

A grid is a tool, nothing more. If it helps you to see the shapes in the original, to better define contrast and volume in your study, then it is a boon and you should use it.

I can see how one might be concerned that it could become a crutch, and if that is the case then you should alternate using it in studies (do one study with, do the next study without). That's just my opinion. Hope that helps!

Update

>>1776755

The goal is to see a grid without there actually being one. You always want to keep in mind the vertical and horizontal relationships between major points and landmarks

>>1776760
Very beautiful, keep it up.

>>1776749
>>1776755
>>1776762
I think I'm starting to understand grids and their use a bit better. Thanks guys.

>>1776781
More on grids:
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/blog/on-cheating-rulers-grids-and-tracing

Here's a monster dude I doodled before work today. I have to fix the nose angle... Also I think I'm going to do some anatomy studies before continuing with him.

I drew a bird.

everything seems off, I'm happy I even progressed something this far though

What's the best way to do daily perspective stuff? Like, do you study images and find the vanishing points or do you try to construct your own perspective stuff?

>>1776830
Dunno if you've seen this already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1McYZX6KScg

God, this is so time-consuming

>>1776849
I think you should put some kind of foreground elements in there or at least put something near the bottom.

>>1776854
>>1776849
Perhaps a figure could be climbing the steps?

>>1776858
well, thinking about it more, my problem is that pillar of nothing in the lower left corner. I feel something needs to be there.

>>1776859
A little hill peaking out the clouds with a single withered tree on it.

May be unrelated but,

I finished this map just today, it regards a comic I am making, thought I could show it here. All done with traditional media.

>>1776842
I have. I forgot about it though, thanks

Trying to improve my values. Definitely on of my weaknesses.
>>1776873
Good start. The water doesn't really read as water from the thumb though.
>>1776849
The brushstrokes on the rocks makes my mouth water

Im trying to find a way to really make this riot horses visor look smoother than the textures of everything else.

>>1776760
Looks mighty cool. Something that might push it super depth wise is having the stuff in the foreground darker and gradually getting lighter as they recede into space. Atmospheric perspcetive and whatnot.

>>1776869
omg beauteous

>>1776869
Please just make a tumblr already.

>>1776854
Yeah, the foreground needs to change.

>>1776858
I want it to feel empty, so I don't plan on putting a figure.

>>1776859
I see that negative space as well, I'll change it.

>>1776882
Thanks!

game project

>>1776971
The whole thing is missing any sort of vanishing point, making it look super flat and unappealing.

>>1776715
looks like you're making an ad for urban outfitters

Currently working on this, but would like some critique on it so far.

>>1777056
Very symmetrical, I would try to break it up a bit. Also everything in the image points right at the center, but there is nothing there. If you want to point so much at one spot, make it a decent focal point.

Polished it a bit

trying a smudge brush

sorry for the phone camera

Starting doing this...not even sure what it is.

>>1777074
i like your stuff, got a site?

>>1777072
reminds me of the song "the house that heaven built" by the Japandroids. Also, looking good, I dig it

>>1777074
pcool were the value though
>>1777076
makes me wanna fuck up some shit
>>1777072
stop licking this shit what are you a fucking dog >>1776971
>>1777056
value structure
>>1776869
plsfuckmybitchtier
>>1776830
iwannabefhengzhubutallihaveimspaintier
>>1776784
relookat the paintover m8 no values
>>1776715
i wish i could draw like this to get those indie bitches

>>1777119
you mad you can never finish anything and the sketches that you post are mediocre at best?

hey does any1 here know how im supposed to get a job my mother keep saying get ajob faggot, but i dont want to bag grocies and shit that means you have to go outside and shit and i dont even know how you get grociery jobs ??

>>1777131
bro i am eye of the tiger mad dont even

.

>>1776869

FUCK MY PUSSY FUCK MY PUSSY FUCK MY PUSSY FUCK MY PUSSY

.

Does this look okay, I want to get the main framework right the first time before I waste time on going into detail. Newbie here; suppose to be a man touching his reflection in the mirror if yuh can't tell.

>>1777119
>i wanna be fheng zhu but all i have i ms paintier
At least criticize me using proper grammar.

>>1776830
>I want to speed paint, like feng zhu xD!

Try and do a speedpainting in that style looking from your window, it will not only be much more interesting than what you've got there currently, you'll also actually learn something.

>>1776877
Kinda hard to read the text. Normally maps fade the terrain detail around text so that it reads clearer. Also maps in general use lighter values for the wash on top.

>>1777154
There's only one thing you musn't fuck up in when painting people and that's the eyes and you haven't given the eyes any intent. Unless ofcourse she is staring into nothing.

How does this look for 30 mins?

I think I'm gonna do a bunch of these tonight and put them all together, then you guys can able to pick which ones I should carry on with.

>>1777242
Pretty good, I like the colors in the sky.

Crit on drapery anatomy?

>>1777248
folds go with form and gravity

Practicing values, after a screwed up attempt at using night-like colors. Still look like shit?

>>1777242
ugly

>>1777259
still looks like shit

>>1777254
aye nice critique thanks

>>1776977
>clearly doesn't know what his talking about

>>1776854
>not how foreground works

Shaco should shine because he sits in front of the moon. I failed, -.- any tips how I could fix this ? It's drawn with watercolours.

>>1777072
polish it more and it could be really great

>>1777264
Alright. Care to tell me why?

Hey guys im trying to get into character design. Any feedback is appreciated

Also can you tell what kinda of character im trying to draw?

Anon can you tell me where I fucked up. I feel very uncomfortable with her bended leg but I dont know how to fix.

>>1777284
It looks uncomfortable because your weight distribution is fucked up, it's on the wrong leg

Watch more proko

>>1777284
Is this righ leg a little bit too round, also looks like she has more waist or more like the leg starts way higher then the original leg?
She has more of an tight gap, so I guess it's because the inside of the left leg has an extra bump/swelling..?
But looks nice. Would like to see it coloured

>>1777284
Check the lines. Right leg is not like that on the ref.

drawing wimmz is hard. I cant get these eyes right its like there's this tiny bit of info just completely flying over my head.

>>1777284
try breaking down the figure into box forms cylinders observe angles ect
A good read would be the vilppu drawing manual

>>1777323

fucking 4chan y u do this 2 me

>>1777324

I think I fixed it
but still feels weird

>>1776971
>>1777267
>samefagging instead of taking critique
A+

>>1777347
i like the fix.

>>1777278
You should study some master painters and figure out why your's looks like shit and improve.

>>1777347
She looks cute :3

>>1777347
I hope you don't mind a quick paintover. Generally your values are nice. Proportions not so much.
Gotta render the eyeball like a sphere. Her lips are slightly off as well.

Yeah, how do I improve this? I'll post reference below.

>>1777414

Here's my reference.

>>1777414
You gotta learn how to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

Also read about gesture. Because you straightened yours.

>>1777421
Yeah, I noticed the proportions were off because I pretty much free-handed it with very little measuring. I'll keep that in mind, along with the gesture. How do I improve the values?

>>1777228
What awful advice. There is nothing wrong with painting from imagination even if it sucks to try and apply what you've learnt from studies.

>>1777447
Where did anon say it's wrong to paint from imagination? And what gives you the impression that other anon is trying to apply what he learned from painting from life? What about that hastily done sketch implies that he's ever painting outdoors from life?

Why is /ic/ so obsessed with this impressionist style digital painting?
It rarely looks good.

>>1777076
What in the serious fuck?

>>1777458
you sound like a faggot. please keep your plebian taste to yourself and push out some more cut-out photo studies.

>>1777462
There is no need to be upset.

>>1777076
you may want to try not leaving a massive white halo around the subject.

>>1777143
You drunk trooper?

Posting what I worked on before I head out. The trees are way unfinished and I do plan on adding some figures on the foreground ledge. Currently trying to figure out what to do with the sky.

>>1776971
Wow this is literally the most boring and generic thing I've seen on /ic/.

I'd assume you take most of your inspiration and reference from other scifi works, taking out all sense of realism or relatability.

>>1777218
thats the joke bumb ass

quickie

>>1777347
Did apaintover for this a couple horus ago but forgot to post it...so >>1777386 already did one but whatever. Basically I think you just need to focus on clarifying the facial features a bit more clearly and thinking of the forms more. Try to get the main form of the head with the hair better too.

studies of a stoned beginner, please be gentle

Some progress on this piece. Finding it hard to manage a single light source. I feel like it should be super high contrast between the lit table and the rest of the room, but its too dark overall.

>>1777633
fix his hand. get your hand and place it in the same position on your head starting form chin and see the difference when he would do the same.

>>1777273
His right hand and arm is humongous and longer compared to his left.

>>1777632
softened it out a bit.

First Post here

>>1777678
sorry about the resolution folks, didn't realize it'd post like that

>>1777143
>NAAAAIIIILLLL GUUUUNNNN!!!

Heds

>>1777628
his expression is a bit wrong, on the left he looks a little pissed
on the right he looks like "man, I could go for a nap right now, did someone fart? I bet it was red water again, man I hate that kid, I wonder if this guy is ever gonna finish drawing me"

>>1777678

I >>1777671 redrew yours.

>>1777759
Hhahaha, i really enjoyed your feedback!
Will work on that

Here's a wip, gonna keep on working on it.

Anything I should change?

How bad did I do?

>>1777798
Black sure is a strong value. I don't think I've ever see actual black in reality.

>>1777805
Alright. It looked wrong to me, I don't really know what I'm doing yet. Thank ya.

>>1777155

I don't think i need to tell you that this looks awful.

>>1777357

Oh fuck off.

>>1777805

You see actual black all the time. It's just in small amounts.

havent been here in awhile, youre all just as lovely as I remember

>>1777264
>>1777357
are you pic related?

>>1777259
are you using some sort of reference? make sure you're at least doing that if you're going to be practicing some aspect in your artwork. wheres your wind coming from? it looks like the waves are pushing upon the beacon from all side but what force is causing that? it would also be quite a lot mistier
push your values in some areas as well and mess with your composition a little, whats your focal point?

>>1777822
Not in nature. Nothing is pure black.

>>1777845
forgot pic

>>1776971
I can't really pinpoint the ship's orientation no matter how I look at it. Pic related. Is the blue arrow indicating the top of the ship, or is it the brown arrow? The brown guns look larger, and the bowl-like slope of the ship makes me think that's the top, but the shit behind the blue arrow looks like some kind of bridge, which would indicate the top of the ship. It's really disorienting.

>>1777284
REALLY think about balance and weight distribution when constructing a body. try and visualize the actual person trying to stand

>>1777845
No ref used, just imagination/another composition that started to look like a crashed ship and a lighthouse... So yeah, nothing serious and it was done in less than an hour. I was thinking of the ship as source of the waves but exaggerated them for impact. I think the main problem is the low range of values making everything look dark and the lack of focal point is probably contributing to that... If i weren't so tired, i would fix it now but i'll probably return to it tomorrow. Anyway, thanks for the feedback!

>>1777851
Thats the least of the problem. The brown is the bottom. It's top is on the other side.

The real problem is the composition being trash. The NASA shot in the background destroys the balance. The bloom and rays make it impossible to see. The interior is not in a perspective, it runs completely parallel while the ship suggests a lens. The canvas is the wrong shape for the scene, a widescreen shot of a bridge with space to see space would have been a better idea. All in all, terrible planning and a terrible shot.

>>1777851
light doesn't travel in space you retard

painting relaxed just going with the flow cranking out shapes and a comp and yoloing it up

so meditative. looks like shit but i had a blast.

>>1777873
Then explain sunlight.

>>1777678

sticky! studies! if you ever wanna get good. generally people here don't care much about subject matter, unless you got some skills to showcase it efficiently.

>>1777886
not bad anon, kinda getting some phallic vibes from those rocks, especially the one in the far back

>>1777890

i'm getting that alot lately lol. even with this sketch.

got inspired by the craig mullets thread

suppose to be for july fourth but never finished

>>1777921
You use reference on that? I like the shapes of light. Some of the edges where the light and shadow meet could help show teh form better though, like on the stomach I think a nice soft edge would work well, then have it contrasted with the sharp edge already on the ribs and ASIS.

>>1777921
>inb4 askign 4 a blug

>>1777921
wakkawa, is dat u?

>>1777773
>>>
> Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)22:32:02 No.1777925▶

Is there anything I'm doing horribly wrong?

>>1777963
Yes. The mouth, nose, and eyes are all in different perspectives from each other, and the tooth cylinder is pushed into the head too much. Also you should block in the entire image before rendering.

first, very quick and basic sketch for a request.
I can clearly see I fucked up the legs, but I'm not sure what to do.

>>1777966
Alright, thanks for the feedback!

>>1777284

Trying to make this B-movie ish. This isn't how you actually perform that move BTW, you're supposed to put both hands around the neck. Deviation from that was suggested in my instructions.

>>1777228
Better?

Thanks for the input.

>>1777794

yeah make the subject something else than the god damn generic figures looking over something

>>1777228
Better?

Thanks for the feedback

>>1777988
What a horrible diagram. Doesn't explain anything at all, and you've drawn the angle of the hips incorrectly over his drawing--you connected the great trochanter with the ASIS instead of connecting both ASIS.

>>1778046
i thought it was useful, just because it's not 100% accurate doesn't mean the visualization is bad.

I did what I could, maybe next time.

>>1777347
I dont really think this needs a paintover, I just saw other people doing it and wanted to try.

>>1777347
I'd be careful with the darks and highlights in the eyes. Just use the darks to push deeper edges from each other. You also can control where the viewer should look first with concentrating the darks in the important places.

it looked better inside photoshop... :[

>>1778142
>it looked better inside photoshop

I know them feels, bro.

update on a pic i posted earlier... still workin on it. comments and crits welcome.

well why not.

>>1778163
Id move his face a little considering the angle of the body bar that its pretty awesome

>>1778167
i think i see what youre saying anon. also, thx :)

>>1778066
My paintover looked like shit so I painted over it.

>>1778173
like I imagine your character slumped on the floor somehow but how? did they fall backwards? Get thrown? Rag dolled? the way that the body is positioned to me shows that they got hit by something and fell backwards. Keep that in mind with your painting.

>>1778175
Not that anon but to me it just reads as the guy being in spine-bending horrible pain. He's clutching his gut and his face is all fucked up, probably from the shit he dropped.

>>1777423
The transitions from areas of different value are very sudden which is why the areas of shadow and light look like surfaces joined at an angle rather than surfaces wrapping around a rounded form. You need to transition more softly over rounded surfaces.

Regarding the gesture, there's a squish on her right side and an extension on her left side as well as a rotation between her hips and her torso. A quick gesture sketch before you begin can help you feel out the pose.

>>1777633
A very pedantic point, but any tinkerer worth his sodium would be working under a more diffuse light source to prevent cast shadows. Probably not as effective for the mood in a picture though.

>>1778177
If its pain in his gut he would prob be curled over in a ball. maybe if he sprawled over onto his back his face would be facing front wards with his eyes rolling into his head.

This is a home work.
We need to draw in the classic inking style and make a science fiction illustration.

My picture seems to be too complicated and lack of focus...... I think this is because I lack of spot black ?

can /ic/ give me suggestion??

>>1778186

is that size format a requirement? it doesn't lend itself to an illustrative piece.

I'd scrap it and start again with a more standard format, that way you can actually use rules of composition comfortably not on a stretched out workspace.

What do you want to be the focus of the picture? The man with the rifle riding the camel creature?

If so you need to make him a larger part of the picture, maybe make him standout somehow, with a more unique comp.

>>1778188
Yes. We need to draw in this super strange format.

Because this is an illustration for old school TRPG book..........

I am not sure should I make the man bigger. Because we should show more background.

I am going to put more spot black on the man to make it looks more stand out ....

>>1778186
I should work more on the thumnail at the beginning

is porn allowed in here ?
i know my anatomy lacks alittleim working on that but maybesomeone could tell me how to render properly and point out my mistakes

>>1778204
the reason this pic doesnt read well is because the composition is bad and your line weight sucks(aswell as your overall drawing technique)

Trying to simplify rendering

>>1778220
Thats nice!

>>1778213
Whatever the hell am I supposed to see here?
I know that my mind can fill in the flaws but this is really a stretch.

>>1778213

>>1778227
realy mature , and thats what i get for seeking honest critique well thank you , 4chan stays /b/ no matter what board

>>1778229
If the furry thing is by you, I'd like to inform you that you are drawing and painting jerk-off material for emotionally stunted people without taste.

>>1778169
>That unreadable signature

Was this supposed to look unfinished, uncanny, and creepy as fuck?
Even so, work on your edges and value.
Those lips and eyes require some work.
And the ear placement is really off.
And definitely don't sign your work unless you're completely done with it.

>>1778227
Rendering is okay but that linework overtop is genius
Can't get over the way you spelled faggot, the composition there is just gorgeous

>>1778229
>4chan is one person
>/ic/ is one buttmad Artist who goes around shitposting other more skilled Artists

Well to be honest /ic/ is for the majority buttmangled Artists, but...

>>1778233
Thanks I practice everyday, it is such a struggle to make ends meet though. My day jobs include lawn moving and kids parties, hit me up if your in need.

How is this so far? Be honest.
Is there anything wrong with the anatomy/construction?

>>1778245
Overcomplicating values.

>>1778247
Explain? I'm new to painting.

>>1778249
you dont have to be new to painting to understand what that means hory shet

>>1778250
You could have at least explained it. Am I using too many values? How am I not using the tones properly? I'm just trying to learn, I wouldn't have asked for help if I already knew that I was overcomplicatig values.

>>1778254
Using too many, yeah. Lay down your base value, then the shadows, then the midtones and refine from there. For example, you've gone straight into attempting the gradient on the pectoral with progressively lighter values, when it's actually effectively just two overlapping values with soft edges (and can be further refined from there).

>>1778280
I'll try doing that, thanks.

>>1777873
Light can travel through vacuums dumbass

another quickie

>>1777851
theres no horizon line in space you retard

>>1778227

I cracked up so hard. Thanks.

fukken hands -,-

>>1778308
Thats boss yo.

>>1778245
block in the background value before painting the figure. Then choose 3-4 values and paint the forms roughly. Use your darkest dark (needn't be 100%black!) and your brightest grey/white for contrast at the point of interest - in this case, the face I would guess.

>>1777842
i see a penguin with one eye just under the main gun..

trying to get back into painting after a long "art block" or whatever

This is a concept for a boar-drawn cart. Well, one of the boars anyway.

>>1778328
I know alot of people who have had problems with hands, but I love them. I can just stare at them and sketch.
I'm shit at the rest of humans though.

>>1778375
boars have much longer bodies than that. He looks very stunted.

>>1778389
Its not his fault he was born short.

>>1778175
ok anon
>>1778177
your right. hes in a lot of pain because of a steady diet of adrenaline shots.
>>1778181
i didnt nececerily want it to look like it was it was just his stomach in pain... but good point. if i werent as far along as i am, i might switch it up.

>>1778354
god damnit.

>>1778245
>>1778254

Try thinking with only 5 values. 2 values for the darks, 1 natural/midtone, 1 for your light dark, and white for your highlights.

just finish this one.

>>1778354
and i thought the plane was a group of penguins standing in front of a pool

>>1776893
Should be easy, just only use parallel 'vertical' lines? May stand out stylistically quite a bit though, not sure :/

Sorry for the potatocam.

practicing hands

>>1778553
Cool idea, although the composition looks messy. I think more could have been done with the lines to make the eye flow through the composition.

guess who just got a niiice peennn
meee
meee
meee

>>1778716

>>1778308
I like your style, can i find more of your art somewhere?

>>1776869
>>1777921
gud

>>1778688
thank you, you are right

http://flockdraw.com/4ih3x7

Here is some serious art.

>>1778777
Go easy on the background decorations like the crazy lights going on in the left of the portrait, they can be distracting.

>>1778777
Is that Rezwana?

>>1778798
thanks, i agree !
>>1778803
no its ur mum

>>1778735
vinicam.tumblr.com

But I rarely draw with brush pens. Thanks! :)

Fresh off the boat. I'm grinding fundamentals right now.

Are my background values still too dark? I've lightened them up enough to get a silhouette on the figure. Anyone wanna do a quick paint over to help?


>>1777644
Thanks for pointing that out, didn't notice how uncomfortable the hand position was.

>>1778180
If I had a more sophisticated understanding of painting light I would try to diffuse the light, but I'm struggling enough as it is. Good point though, never though of the type of light.

Any real problems with this piece? I plan on taking as much time on this one and inking it.

>>1778865
Turn on that lamp in the background, would make a nice rim light on the dude. Also the floor should be visible at that angle. And yeah all the values are a bit too dark.

Friends drawing. Please give her some advice

>>1778869
Where are the eyebrows

>>1778878
Build it up with forms, don't draw what you see from contours

>>1778878
The hands look like they were smashed by a hammer, then given a *made in America* coffee cup.

Obviously it's a start, show your friend some hand anatomy books and tell him/her to study your hands for fun.

>>1778878
Fingers are far too long/palm is too short. Fingers are all bending strangely, thumb looks especially strange.

She need to learn about implying form etc as well, and working on the weight of her lines and what they could imply instead of drawing every single details in the same way, same stroke, same heaviness, if that makes sense. It's very flat and hasn't taken 3d form into account either.

First digital painting ever
Be gentle

>>1778042
today progress

>>1778906
boring and emoitonless

>>1778883
Fuck I erased them when I was fixing the eyes.
Just ended up forgeting about them.

trying to get better at foreshortening. ignore the weird hoof-looking foot.

>>1778913
Shnoz looks funny, too wide and the nostrils are flaring. Unless she's a nig nog. If that's the case though, you need to make the nostrils more horizontal, they're too slanted.

>>1778906
(I can almost instantly tell it's you by the way you paint faces, might want to try more variations or exaggerate a little more)

Anyway, I do like the colors going on in some areas, like the shadow on her neck. However the highlights are overblown, as the brightest points right now are her cheeks and forehead, especially the forehead. Might want to tone that down, and put the brightest white on where you want the viewer to look - like the eyes.

>>1778865
As it stands it feels needlessly empty, the dark areas to the right are just...well, dark. There's no reason for anyone to look there, so I don't think it should be there at all. This would only be okay if you're doing a book cover or a spread for a book of some kind, where you'd place text on the darker page or have that as the back cover.

If it's your intention to make a book cover or a spread for a book, then ignore this.

>>1778907
I tried.

>>1778941
It is partly fault of the filter/lightning. No matter how hard I try I can't quite replicate how it looks to me.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback I toned down the white and also added some depth to the cheeks plus some minor stuff.

>>1778990

I finished this.

>>1778984
Better, now just need to push the contrast between the darks and lights.

Trying this grayscale to colour method. Think I need to overpaint more but I'm a bit burnt out for now.

>>1778169
Yeah its supposed to be creepy. Yeah its unfinished because I didn't know how to tweak it, Alright thanks anon Ill give it another go thank you. As for the signature its just so I don't find it on tumblr or something.

>>1778232
Yeah its supposed to be creepy. Yeah its unfinished because I didn't know how to tweak it, Alright thanks anon Ill give it another go thank you. As for the signature its just so I don't find it on tumblr or something.

Value practice,but any crit is welcomed...

>>1779090
same, i know anatomy is a bit weird, but focus is values..

>>1778355

the color and composition are interesting.But you should clean up those edges since everything is really muddy.

went back and worked on this old sketch some more.I'd really appreciate some input on the wings, since they're giving me a headache.

>>1779090
>>1779092
You need a lightsource for value studies m8.
You cant just add highlights wherever.

>>1779101
Why not? if its for entertainment it doesn't really matter aslong as it shows for right? I have a general light source at least

>>1779106
Light source is random for both of the figures

>>1778913
>not how foreshortening works

>>1777386
>>1777615
>>1778066
>>1778114

Haha, Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
>>1777615
I see in hindsight using the liquify tool and pushing the jaw back was a bad option

anyways Ill focus more on construction especially with the eyes in the future
xoxoxoxoxo
n-eways heres a little thing im working on going for more of that painted look
such a pain in my dick
foreshortening on arms double the dick pain

Just realized, i don't need any books or video-tutorial to learn how to draw. I don't need to study HOW to draw, i should study THING i want to draw.

>>1779182
Damn i'm smart.

>>1779182
goodluck.

Can a begginer study anatomy by Vilppu Drawing Manual?

>>1779182
Because you OBVIOUSLY know better.

I'm trying to make it look traditional, though I don't know.

I'm just gonna keep on fixing it up.

Any crits are welcomed

>>1779182
Congratulations anon, you've discovered that to learn how to draw, you just draw..

Working on this for a project; though I feel something on the face is wrong, and I'm having trouble pushing my values. Advice/crits?

>>1778984
Something's been bothering me about this (besides the slightly uncanny sameface) and I only just now figured it out:

Explain your cast shadows firez. Like load this up in photoshop and explain them to me. Map out exactly where the light source is pointing in 3D space, and what forms are causing what cast shadows.

The cast shadow of the nose is long and narrow, and the cast shadow of the jaw is also too long. Though they are misshapen, they do imply a high light source. Yet we have no cast shadows of the brow ridge onto the eyesocket. This stuff is inconsistent.

>>1779247
upper body is leaning backwards, looks awkward. The weight is distributed over the right leg(viewer left) and the balance is off.

heres a quick edit to show what I mean

>>1779279
He hasnt the slightest clue about how light works, has been told repeatedly but never improves.
Let him stew in his ego inflated shit bubble

Autism at its finest.

>>1779287
I've given him feedback many times in the past, and over time he's definitely gotten better in terms of listening to and applying critique. If I thought he was another illastrat I wouldn't bother.

>>1779294
yea, your the best

/ic/ I just need some verification whether the pose looks alright for ac haracter design I'm about to start. I don't want to go any further unless I know it looks right.

Don't want to make it look wrong when I'm starting to put clothes on him.

>>1779392
damn going to fast, forgot pic

>>1779394
Stiff as hell, rework the pose before continuing.

from my sketchbook. loads more if u guys are interested.

>>1779401
moar

all in ballpoint btw

>>1779403
yet another

>>1779406
last for now

>>1779401
First of all
that isn't a sketchbook.
Second
not interested.

>>1779410
the images would be more fitting in the sketchbook thread though

>>1779412
right..I guess I'll just move my stuff over there

I think im getting better at drawing pretty girls. What do you guys think?

little portrait

Background for a visual novel, do you guys notice any mistakes/weak areas?

>>1779240
I like it so far, but the dark areas look unnaturely black, maybe you can try making them a bit lighter and mixing in a tiny bit of blue/purple?

>>1779485
Nice work, you should post more often man, haven't seen you in a while

>>1779489
the shadows unter the rocks look very unrealistic (not dark enough, too purple for the light)

>>1779485
Nose seems quite a bit too long. Other than that, beautiful simplicity and brushwork. Is this a study or a sketch from imagination?

>>1779485
Nice brushwork, but some forms can be defined a little more. The nose looks rather non-existent.

How is this? Should I keep going? What should I be aware of/watch out for/correct?

>>1779506
UR VALUES MAN
USE THE BLACK
AAAAA

>>1779506

Yeah,your darks could go a lot darker. Not pure black of course but compare your refs darks to yours and youll see that yours are much lighter

>>1779508
>>1779512
Fuck, sorry guys

>>1779513

What, why sorry? We're all learning here. Carry on, godspeed anon.

>>1779394
>>1779398
Agreed.

You should take the character's personality into account, as that will help dictate what kind of stance is best. Your current pose is just strange, unnatural and directionless.

Be sure to also consult refs where needed. For starters you have a very strange notion of what biceps and deltoids look like.

>>1779451
I think you need to learn how to draw the far away eye. Any practice is better than no practice. Consult refs.

>>1779451
gabe i think its time to stop the 3/4 faces, take something from >>1779485 pls

d-d-d-did an enviro study.

>>1779506
Other people have mentioned darkening your darks, which you should absolutely do.

you need to paint in the values around the figure while you work, remember: value studies are all about relationships. so get those almost blacks in the background and watch your negative spaces.

Im by no means great with value and my example has some bad values, but my value work progressed much faster when I treated the study as a whole, not just my cherry picked figures.

>>1779098
nothing ?

>>1779098
>>1779629
Where's the eye level? The drawing looks like an elevation view, where everything is flattened out. Every height I look it looks like it could be the eyeline.

Critiques would be nice, I want to get down proportion and perspective and overall form before I get to do anything "fun". But practice in itself is pretty okay.

>>1779633
I don't follow.Are you saying that there's not a definitive horizon line ?

Primaries are translucent

>>1779646
oh , thank you! I haven't really noticed that.

>>1779106
its not a value study if you don't have the light planned. Value IS light.

>>1776684

>>1777664
redoing it.

>>1779644
Essentially. Everything looks like it's viewed from a perfect side view. I guess the argument could be made that we're viewing the scene from a long lens, but at that point it feels like we're so remove from the scene.

I'd try to push the depth and have a clear eye level, but that's just me.

Besides some differences from the reference, any critique? I'm trying to get a more painterly feel to it, but I don't really know how to do it. It gets all messy if I try to be more expressive with brushstrokes, and when I try to make it look like a smooth transition it gets messy too. lol
Or maybe I'm just overreacting for working too long non stop...

>>1779279
Thanks a lot for this, I will save this as lightning cheat sheet.

I already tried taking a photo and changing some stuff on my phone and it already look considerably less off and uncanny.

Also, thanks for not giving up on me, I am aware of all the subpar stuff I have doing, unfortunately I always notice when it is too late.

///workinprogess

>>1779666
I've seen you making changes to this for like a week. Do you have trouble calling an image done? It's a pretty sweet piece in my opinion.

Maybe a little too bright compared to before though and the perspective on the trees makes it look like the picture is on the inside of a ring. Not sure if that's intended but it's kind of a cool effect actually.

>>1779661

>>1777584
the calf on that right leg looks a bit backwards.

A work in progress. The couch is supposed to be big