/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Because it's not formal anatomy. he perfectly transposed the emotion because he didn't kept it "totally" anatomically correct

>>1772593
sage

>>1772612
go away with your formal bullshit
are you a illustrator or a artist

>>1772593

it really is. it's so fucking tragic and grabs you right by the balls. not even goya achieves such a punch to the feels.

Here's the original because OP is a fag

Just the sheer regret on his face

>>1772614
? The fuck anon? I said it was expressive because not exactly formal... IS IT BAD? No it fucking isn't. Im pointing out the genius of the artist.

>>1772645
>having a copy with shit colors

Plebs, I swear.

Rubens could be pretty emo

>>1773169

>>1773170

Jusepe de Ribera

>>1773172

>>1773173

I personally like this portrait of Job by Jacob Jordaens, wish I had a better image of it.

>>1773172
Fuark never seen that before, but the form on those legs is out of this world!

Francisco de Zurbaran

Always loved the emotion in this painting

>>1773179

>>1773180
this

most of bouguereau's work is spineless kitsch imo, but this series was something else.

Goya is one of my favourite artists. If I was pretentious I would say his sickness reflected the sickness of the modern world.

Kathe Kollwitz has got to be one of the most emotional artists ever. All of her work just bleeds a dark crushing sense of depression and loss.

>>1773190
Seconded

>>1773198

>>1773103
The sole of that boot though.
das it mane.

>>1773187

saw that one in person a week ago. sent chills down my spine.

>>1772593
>mfw I've lost my soul

Ivan Kramskoy

This thread is sad. I wonder why the paintings that show emotion the best tend to be ones that show immense sadness. The only other paintings I respond emotionally to are those of melancholy, like from Andrew Wyeth or something. I never see paintings that are successful in being overwhelmingly happy or some other emotion. Like it may show something happy, but the emotional connection isn't there.

Andre Wyeth

>>1773227
didn't even see your post before getting to wyeth

patience young padawan

>>1773234
Andre the Wyeth*

Francis Bacon

>>1773237

Lucian Freud

>>1773183
ugh, jackson pollock puts so much emotion into his paintings, you can feel it seething off the wall
fuck
although it kind of goes against the other classical paintings in this thread

>>1772593
There's another one that i don't recall the name, it's a naked man blocking his ears with his hands, while a bunch of women pursue him, people love to put caps in it, saying things like, down with the patriarchy etc..

>>1773338
Temptation of St. Anthony by Lovis Corinth.

>>1772593
Glossary:
>Tsar - Ivan Ivanovich the Terrible
>Tsarevich - his son Ivan

Ivan Ivanovich's relationship with his father began to deteriorate during the later stages of the Livonian War. Angry with his father for his military failures, Ivan demanded to be given command of some troops to liberate besieged Pskov.

Their relationship further deteriorated when on 15 November, the Tsar, after seeing his pregnant daughter-in-law wearing unconventionally light clothing, physically assaulted her. Hearing her screams, the Tsarevich rushed to his wife's defense, angrily shouting, "You sent my first wife to a convent for no reason, you did the same with my second, and now you strike the third, causing the death of the son she holds in her womb". Yelena subsequently suffered a miscarriage. The Tsarevich confronted his father on the matter, only to have the topic changed to his insubordination regarding Pskov. The elder Ivan accused his son of inciting rebellion, which the younger Ivan denied, but vehemently stuck to the view that Pskov should be liberated. Angered, Ivan's father struck him on the head with his scepter. Boris Godunov, who was present at the scene, tried to intervene but received blows himself. The younger Ivan fell, barely conscious and with a bleeding wound on his temple. The elder Ivan immediately threw himself at his son, kissing his face and trying to stop the bleeding, whilst repeatedly crying, "May I be damned! I've killed my son! I've killed my son!" The younger Ivan briefly regained consciousness and said "I die as a devoted son and most humble servant". For the next few days, the elder Ivan prayed incessantly for a miracle, but to no avail. The Tsarevich died on 19 November 1581.

>>1773227
Don't tell me this isn't jolly as fuck

Stańczyk by Jan Matejko The jester is depicted as the only person at a royal ball who is troubled by the news that the Russians have captured Smolensk.

>>1773536
shes clearly cheating on swinging guy with bushes guy, this ones the saddest ive seen so far. tfw

A personal favorite

Also read this:
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.nl/2011/08/souls-on-banks-of-acheron.html

“In this picture we see the newly dead hovering on the banks of that river of the lower world which they must cross in Charon’s boat ere they reach their ultimate destination.

“Hermes Necropompos is here fulfilling his important function of conducting the shades of the dead from the upper to the lower world. In Mr. Hirschl’s rendering but few of these souls are glad to leave the sunlit earth behind them. Its joys and attractions still hold them spellbound, only quite a few, mostly young children and old men, are resigned to their mortal fate.

>>1773536
It just looks sappy. Does that image seriously give you an emotional reaction?

>>1773557
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVI5Sjm0xKI

oh shit you're right.

>>1773559
thanks for the description, here's a better pic

George Bellows

Titian

>>1773565

El Greco

>>1773570

Why not include sculpture to? Pic related, Vesperbild Pieta

>>1773572
Michelangelo's Pieta:

>>1773572
too*
more mike. less lamentation, more brooding

>>1773572
top kek

>>1773574

>>1773575
>can't appreciate medieval art
top pleb

>>1773577
>appreciating shit

top kek

The Dying Gaul

>>1773578
Your limited tastes don't negatively affect me, appreciate whatever kind of art you want kiddo.

Bernini

>>1773581

>>1773581
>having quality taste
>calls it limited

enjoy your graffiti tags pops

Giambologna

>>1773583
>graffiti tags
>medieval sculpture that had a huge influence on the expressionists

you seem very uneducated. am I wrong?

>>1773584

>>1773585
you're always wrong

Laocoon and his sons

>>1773587
>mfw you say mean things to me

Caspar David Friedrich

>>1773591

>>1773588
B.C. tentacle porn.

JMW Turner

David Olere, holocaust survivor. He has a lot of really dark sketches from concentration camps as well.

>>1773596

Albert Bierstadt

>>1773563
To me most of the baroque / rococo paintings have that carefree feeling to them. It doesn't fit in this thread and It's not as strong a reaction you'd get from the dramatic op images, but at least it's not so sad.

It is funny that I picked this one though, I'll give you that.

>>1773601

>>1773601
I think it's much more common in rococo than in baroque

>>1773604

>>1773606
Orientalist paintings show this fascination with trade and travel. To explore new places.
Is that an emotion?

A sense of wonder.

Also this
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/euor/hd_euor.htm

Some of the first nineteenth-century Orientalist paintings were intended as propaganda in support of French imperialism, depicting the East as a place of backwardness, lawlessness, or barbarism enlightened and tamed by French rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism

>>1773605
That's true

pic related

>>1773621
wow what an emotional masterpiece
look at those eyes

>>1773623
thank you anon i attempted to put all the emotions ivan felt for his son ivan, who he hit with a pointy stick in the head, into this painting

>>1773623
thank you anon i attempted to put all the emotions king ivan felt for his son ivan, who he hit with a pointy stick in the head, into this painting

>>1772593
>>1772645
>>1773103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-JCt0k24oA
This guy is crazy

Something a little different. A moment of introspection, stillness, melancholy.

>>1773536
Jolliest painting for me would have to be another Repin, in this case "Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks". Just look at those jolly motherfuckers.

Shit /ic/ all my favorites have been posted
I feel like seeing the paintings I know best itt is like saying all my favorite movies are all from the imdb top 100

Should I seek out more images? how?

>>1775720
Brush up on art history. If you like a particular artist try reading a short bio of them to find out if they trained with/under other artists or had friends that were artists or were part of a group/movement and look into those people and repeat the process.

Find blogs and such that post lots of old master paintings. Buy books and read them. Immerse yourself in art and you will find stuff that appeals to you. And at the end of the day if your tastes remain essentially the same, that's fine too.

>>1775732
that makes sense

>>1773536
I don't think this period of art tried to envoke emotion or challenge the viewer in any way. Rococo is about the celebration of decadence and royalty. It became so popular in France that it was basically a dime a dozen.

>>1773338
>that awkward position
>that demon in the background loling at dante being impressed
>that u mad demoniac face

everything about that pic is pretty awkward and OP's painting looks much more natural and expressive

>>1773227
rockwell's works are very joyful to me

>>1773956
But there's an underlying tone of deceit. These men are gamblers so the jolly nature is a façade.

Zdzisław Beksiński produces some really dark images.

>>1775870
>gamblers can't be happy

There's this brazilian (7 x 1 lol) guy I like. His name is Candido Portinari and he made this paiting.

>>1773170

Dildo was a fat fuck.

>>1773237
My favorite of his is Triptych 1973.

There's so much anguish and violence in the way the Bacon portrays his lover in his final moments here.

>>1776636
Never heard the term rubenesque? And it's Dido

>>1776602
Portinari is awesome, dude.

>>1776636
Back in the day people thought that chubby pale girls were the hottest fucking shit. Conversely, skinny and tanned girls were pretty gross.

The reason for this is if you had a bit of meat on your bones, it meant you could afford to eat well, and if you were pale, it meant you didn't toil and work in the sun all day. Being thin and tan implied the opposite. It's entirely a class thing.

I've always found Anguish by August Friedrich Albrecht Schenck very emotional.

>>le edward hopper faec

Leon Bonnat

utter despair

>>1776754
wow

>>1776754
was just there 2 days ago. always loved it but only because it's so ott.

>>1773180
this is so beautiful it put tears in my eyes.

this one's always amused me

This is a candidate.

Caspar David Friedrich

>>1772593
Whatever someone did to that image, they ruined it.

This thread reminded me of this scene in The Seventh Seal. Not a painting I know, but if you're into the feels, this film delivers like no other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpZsPzBPlEw

>>1773180
thats the best picture of christ ive ever seen

I haven't even end to read all this thread but I got to tell you all: you're amazing. Than you. No place on internet, or for that matter, in real life, share with me such deep and beautiful ideas and paintings

>>1776661
Bacon really gets to me but seeing the paintings in the flesh was even more intense. They're relatively large, particularly the triptychs, and you get this overwhelming feeling that Bacon regarded the human body with a sense of horror. Like he couldn't stop himself from seeing us as meat.

>>1777121
looks shit irl though like all those french academy oils. like something air rushed onto the hood of a car.

>>1776710
Fat chick detected

>>1777235
...Saying that societal ideas of beauty have changed over time makes me a fat chick?

One of the most emotional pictures (not paiting) I've seen is this one.

>>1777251
paintings*

>>1772593
Any appreciation I might have had for this piece was completely destroyed by /ic/ posting it every other day

>>1777269
Your loss mate.

>>1777251

>>1777292
Yeah no shit.

Munkácsy's Christ trilogy

Something about this one always gets to me. So much emotion in those faces. Samson's expression nearly brings me to tears if I look at it for too long, it's despair codified into a series of brush strokes.

I feel Van Dyck's underrated. Everybody always talks about Rembrandt, Vermeer, etc but I never really see Van Dyck discussed much.

>>1777424
Also this.

>>1777424
God. Damn.

>>1777424
I have actually never liked van dyck myself and have tried opening many books after hearing his name over and over.

i don't know why. maybe its the characters have no "real emotion" bad use of antatomy and values.

i don't know but not on the same level imo as Rembrandt, Vermeer or Velazquez

>>1777441
Tell me about it.

>>1777445
>Shit-talking Van Dyck
>Liking that faggot Vermeer, the first human in history to perfect eyedropper cheating and photo paintovers for asspats
>Muh anatomy, muh values

Get out.

>>1777461
>thinks muddy values is better.

stop being such a hipster van dyck is shit it doesn't make you cool to he was underrated. he is rated just fine. not saying he sucked just that his appeal isn't on the same level as the others.

His portraits were great however his larger works and his magnus opum overall was meh.

>>1777445
Lol redline please

>>1777476
>Magnus opum

>>1777478

>can't debate

>calls out an auto fill

>think he won.

you are a potato.

>>1777490
That's not autofill. My computer tried twice to correct it to 'magnum opus'.

Further, you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about beyond parroting names of artists books told you were good. Vermeer was a fucking tracer who had understudies do 70% of the work on his paintings. Velasquez was only good at portraits, his ability to render objects in perspective was abysmal. Rembrandt's pretty good but massively overrated. Most of his paintings look static and awkward.

>>1773600
I want to go there.

>>1777495
>angry some dude dissed an old master with killer skills
>better diss 3 old masters with killers skills

>>1777521
Vermeer didn't have killer skills, unless you count lens and mirror construction.

And even though I do think he's overrated, I still love Rembrandt. There are, however, some pretty elementary mistakes in his work. Just look at the foreshortening on the cadaver in this piece.

>>1777526
Now compare it to this piece by Van Dyck.

They were both around 19 when they painted these.

>>1777532
I'm not knocking van dyke so I don't know what you've got to prove by nitpicking other masters, you can find flaws in anyone's body of work. Just ignore the other anon who pretends he sees glaring flaws that he can't describe to us.

>>1777535
I'd like to add you should feel free to keep posting van dyke though. Nigga was next level

>>1777532
>not posting the high res version

>>1777592
What was the thinking behind giving Roman soldiers modern uniforms, out of interest?

>>1777592
Why is there a knight with Jesus?

>>1777663
Because artists often place biblical scenes in a contemporary context. Germanic knights often take the place of roman centurions in renaissance and baroque art.

>>1777535
I just feel it's disingenuous at best to dismiss an artist because 'hurr muddy values Rembrandt and Vermeer were better durr'.

I feel Van Dyck is just as good, if not better, and doesn't seem to get anywhere near as much acclaim as his peers.

>>1777755
But knights are soldiers of the lord!

>>1773169
His painted some fine ass bitches tho.

>>1772593
This painting makes me feel so much and didn't even know it was Ivan until now.

>>1773170
Dido is pretty big in this paiting. When I read the Aeneid I assumed she would be fit and black.

>>1777495
aghh you got me. vermeer sure I can see you being a third about him. but velasquez?! fuck off! next you ll be trying to shit on titian.

>>1777914
turd, hate how my phone doesn't know any swear words and autocorrects them all while simultaneously never corrected any mistakes i actually make.

>>1777914
I don't really hate any of those artists - even if I think that Van Dyck was able to capture emotion and movement on a flat, static surface better than them, Velasquez's mastery of the human form and rendering is awesome and Rembrandt's clearly a compositional genius. Vermeer, I buy into the idea that he used optical equipment to make his paintings from my time as a photographer - there's no other way to account for the lens distortion or chromatic aberration because those techniques didn't fucking exist in art before cameras did - but even if that makes him an unimpressive painter, it still means he was a pioneer in the field of image reproduction.

The clue is in the title, 'Old Masters'. They may not have been perfect at everything, but they could still hand most modern artists their ass on a plate.

>>1777663
Because most artists didn't know what a Roman centurion looked like.