/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How does it feel like being stuck in such a pitiful cycle of JUST drawing girls till the day you die?

>>1767461
i bet it feels a whole lot better than drawing muscle men all the time. ugh, someone save me.

>>1767461
What about girls with dicks?

>>1767461
Glorious. The Female figure is aesthetically more pleasing than anything else and once you start to clean the construction lines to reveal the elegance you can't help but feel a strong euphoria overwhelm you and it's no wonder Millenials who are male wish they where girls as society caters to the whim of the damsel in distress for the same reasons.

>>1767465
This.

Never know whether to post in the draw thread or this one.

>>1767497
If you're looking for any sort of feedback I'd say drawthread.

>>1767497
Considering your quality, go in the draw thread.

>>1767497
much better colors than the space pirates one

>>1767497
What program do you use for linework? Love the story behind this image. :)

>>1767500
>>1767501

It's the same board, the draw thread is no different from this one but with the emphasis on stylization behind fundamentals.

>>1767514
draw thread
>more pros
>better quality
>no drama
>inteligent and long critiques

alt
>95% noobs
>dramas
>critique more simple but accurate
>only kyle is good

these are the threads where we keep the broken toys.

cancer containment.

>>1767564
Well, judging from the art posted in the draw thread, there are plenty of "broken toys" there as well. I guess shit tier artists like yourself really love hanging off the balls from the handful of good artists who post there from time to time, but the overall quality of the draw thread is pretty much the same as this thread. Sometimes even worse I'd say.

>>1767573
said the cancer ridden pustule

>>1767437
someone PLEASE ban this meme spouting faggot.
he's clearly underage.

Hurry up and post your shitty doodle of yet another anime child so I can butcher it up, you sticky avoiding bastards.
>>1767497
good shit

>>1767558
all the decent ones are just lurking for more kyle

>>1762305
Who did this redline? Was it Kyle?

>>1767616
yes i think so.

>>1767497

Nice job, looks interesting.

>>1767590

>you sticky avoiding bastards.
I like that line

>>1767608
>implying i'm not lurking just to tell kyle how fat his tighs are.

>>1767558
not that guy but i mostly agree.
but the point is, if you refer everyone to the drawthread, this thread will completely lose its purpose. not that i even care anymore, but let's not make things even worse here.

>>1767724
>implying i'm not lurking just to tell kyle how fat his tighs are.

you say it like it's a bad thing

>>1767724
There never was a reason for these threads. If you want crit, post in the draw or sketchbook thread. Despite our resident autist janitors constant thread culling (by the way, do your job, kill the furry garbage and tablet threads instead of babysitting the butthurt here) these threads serve no purpose.

>>1767757
there used to be a reason for these threads.
i just wanted a place to post and discuss more cartoony and line based stuff.
it just didn't pan out as expected. unfortunately there is just too much shit, and nobody wants to listen.

>>1767773
>Nobody wants to listen

What do you mean by that? Though it didn't come out as we wanted it to it does however provide an immersion for those who want to specialize in a field not easily found in the west; furthermore this same immersion is part of a learning process it's there to expose you to an environment not found on the draw thread.

>>1767797
>immersion
you can keep deleting posts but these threads will still be shit

>>1767773

This. People like deadhorseguy and cantbehelped were fucking based because they were putting in the work and making gains, lefty would post some dumb/funny shit and would usually fuck off, teal would pop in and redline some noob's drawing and people liked that until these threads became overrun with newfriends and crossboarders and it became an echo chamber for sycophants and trolls.

We wanted peers, contemporaries, discourse, self awareness. We've got none of that now.

You take bait and argue over stupid shit and take up posts that might have been productive otherwise.

>>1768127
>take this, next time bait happens post it.

>>1768138
>Not posting the official /ic/ approved bait-tan.

>>1768142
>>1768138

saved

samefag

Do you guys ever feel like you have maxed out how good you can be but dont know what the next challenge is going to be so you wait and it never happens then you haven't drawn in like 3 weeks?

>>1768159
Put your drawing next to your favorite artist and compare, practice what he can do and you can't, if your favorite artist is not better than you, start searching for better favorite artists. The journey never ends, for example if you know how to apply perspective correctly, then learn how to use it aesthetically to make your drawing better and not just correct.

>>1767497
I like your art dude.

>>1768159
Never stop and keep your creativity flowing constantly. Get into the mindset that you can always push yourself to be better than what you currently are. Remember improvement is a gradual process and never give up.

>>1768242
>>1768234
so like once you get good at anatomy, faces, clothing you can start stylizing it more? Style just comes naturally? I was thinking about trying to draw some guns next just for the challenge not that they are that prominent in the anime or manga I like.

could I get some input on this and these:
>>1768006
>>1767949

doing some preparations for a comic I've panelled out, I want to have a solid grasp on lineart before I start inking though.

>>1768252
is that GW2 design I spy? His hand looks pretty weird and I want to say that your line thickness is not conveying what's in front of behind or anything, really. It's a bit sloppy. You need to work on your control and put confidence into the inking strokes if you're going to be doing a lot of it.

I did a thing please intiate me.

>>1768127
>People like deadhorseguy and cantbehelped were fucking based because they were putting in the work and making gains
who?

>>1768344

Exactly, you don't know shit newfag

>>1768368
no, but seriously, who?
and what do oyu mean by gains?

>>1767497
>>1767507
>What program do you use for linework?

>>1768386

Deadhorseguy doesn't have a blog as far as I know but he used wrapping lines and drew vampires and stuff

http://itcanbehelped.tumblr.com/page/3

Got his name wrong, fucc

>>1768394

He uses Sai, has one brush with high minimum diameter and one with like ~50% probably has density set to tablet pressure too

>>1768421

Gonna try it.. My lines with photoshop always looks wobbly.

things i do when i get horny...

>>1768534
You forgot the penis, either define it more or apply yourself.

>Not bad cell shading and lineart replications? Whuddya think?

>>1767437
decent cel shading and lineart replication?

>>1768557
Did you learn anything?

>>1768558
Yeah, I think so.

a thing

>>1768560
No, don't think if you've learned anything you should of answered it yourself confidently. Try getting out of whatever comfort zone you are in right now and find something that frustrates you for example hands or feet.

>>1768534
uhm...

>>1768577
I draw dicks.

>>1768581
whats wrong anon

>>1768586
nothing dude...

>>1768592
>...
you sure

>>1768608
positive

>>1768281
their accessories are nice but their bodies are pretty fucked up

>>1767500
>>1767501
Thanks, didn't mean to start that whole argument over the purpose of these threads.
>>1767505
Awesome, tried to make sure the colors were better this time.
>>1767507
This guy >>1768421 is correct, though the high diameter brush is around ~70% and the other is about 30%.
>>1767590
>>1767640
>>1768239
Thanks everyone, glad people enjoy this one.

>>1768649

What do you do to color under the lineart and not get blowouts and shittyness where the opacity in the lines are low

day 29 no motivation. woke up feeling upset. tried not to drink, failed.

>>1768718
Do it for youre waifu
Protect her smile

>>1768718
Pull through. If you are looking for a motivation it would be a good idea to look around your peers and see what they're drawing and maybe one of them will give that motivation for you it works for me at least. The bottom left face does it for me.

>>1768657
The lines in this drawing were all done at 100% opacity, so I didn't run into that problem.

>>1768722
>>1768723
I have drawn like a bunch of HoloxJojo cross overs. I like the spice and wolf manga but don't want to immitate it. I have enjoyed drawing scenes or scapes but am having trouble with trees and cant find the botanical loomis. thanks for your support anons.

>>1768726
jack hamm

>>1767497
You got a blog or something anon?

So I was browsing through iradukai and stumbled upon this. Has anyone read this? Is there anything interesting?

>>1767437
And?

>>1768896
same stuff you see at iradukai, tutorials.

>>1768657
Just duplicate your lineart layer a couple of times.

>>1768281
sup redjuicebro

you're really good at details but your bodies need more work.

I tried to be conservative with my proportions this time

>>1769022
horrible redline

>>1769076

Relative to realistic anatomy? Sure, but relative to the style of the original poster it's much more improved.

>>1768903
epictroll pls go away

>>1769079
>attempting to fix someones style
>no

>>1769080
What do you mean epictroll? What does that even mean?

>>1769022
I really appreciate it, thanks a bunch Kyle. I work very hard to make sure to cover my weaknesses and your redline was really useful.

>>1769022
good redline. don't listen to anon. they're dumb.

source: am also anon

>>1767497
cant tell on what the fuck is going on here
do not post on draw thread

>>1769123
>>1767497
also dont fucking post files in png

>>1769123
>what the fuck is going on here

Two desert travelers/mechanics discover a very old (see the skeleton), broken down mech.

Are you retarded or something? Its fucking clear as day whats goin on in the pic.

>>1769116
you keep making the same mistake
stop symbol drawing when it comes to the face.

you'll never ever get it this way.
start sketching more. less turd polishing, more sketching.

I can do standing poses no problem but i have huge problem with tilting things in space. So lying poses and or with diffrent angle are a trubble for me. I think i will do only still lifes for a week or so with the methods form ctrlpaint guy. Will it help me ?

>>1769116
>taking advice from kyle

blind leading the blind...

>>1769084
wow newfag

>>1769404

rightmost girl's profile is fucked, you probably don't even have to indicate an eye at that shallow of an angle

middle girl looks like she could seize and start foaming from the mouth at any moment instead of turned on

Yuri's hot though so keep at it

>>1769404
Middle girls' left forearm is miles long.

what do you guys use for digital inking?

I like sketching in photoshop but I never ink since it's such a hassle to get the lines right.

There's gotta be a program that's just made for inking out there.

>>1769116
Your values are muddy and the forms are not reading clearly--you are too focused on small form changes.

Here is how I would do it, I saved it in steps so you can see. I start by flattening the values of the entire figure, and simplifying the outer contours since there are many small ugly bumps on the outline. The next step I start bringing in some subtle shadows, note how it is not going very dark and how I try to keep it consistent. The last step I add some highlights to bring out more form.

The main takeaway is that the values are controlled and forms are presented in the simplest manner possible.

>>1769453
was going for that "surprised/terror look" on the middle but will work on both her and the right's face some more thanks!
>>1769466
How so? If you mean the arm draped over the girl on the right, that's actually the left girl's left arm...

>>1769467
>hiding hands & feet

You know why I know you aren't ready to ink yet?

>>1769467
I use Manga Studio, despise I don't like to ink digitally.

>>1769467
>>1769481

I concur with using Manga Studio. It's much better for inking and producing comics than PS. Then again, my version of PS is still on 7.

>>1767497
Very professional work. Get a job now and tell stories. I'd like to see more.

this good or what could be better?

>>1769506
Get a more atmospheric color going. The composition is so simple it needs a more interesting color sheme to convey the emotion.

>>1769506
The feet are all fucked up.

>>1769514
So more work on a background or really just a change in lightning colors?

>>1769521
like scale, position, rotation, form?

>>1769506
Her right (our left) thigh/buttock area is all wrong. It looks like her calf is merely shaded against a flat wall ( but it's actually her thigh).
Here, the thigh is a solid mass of muscle and fat pushing against/resisting more muscle and fat (the calf).
Look up some nude figures (preferably greyscale) to see how limbs of the body interact with other parts. The way fat lays flat, presses against objects, and "drapes" off the bone.
(Press your finger into the fatty base of your thumb to see an example. There's no hard shadows.)

And what >>1769521 said, the feet are wrong (should be facing us more.)

can someone help with the body? its off but i cant pin it

>>1769506
First off adjust the format. Its basically a square canvas which is not not flattering to your picture. Think about negative and positive space. the light comes from the upper left, so if you take a 1 to 1.41 ratio canvas, set the figure to the lower right. that would work best imo. Try to be consistent with your shadows then. You basicaly have light sources all ove rthe place
As about the coloring, as I said, try to maybe for go for a blue-ish overall tone to give it a melancholic feeling? Light does not come in dark and light but with different color information, like try a nighttime feel. Look for pictures taken at night and get a similair color feeling going. Limited palettes usually help to get a certain mood across.
About your feet, yeah those are really fucked, they are very flat and have no real good form. The light on them also doesnt work since they are lid from the upper right for no reason. They also are not proportioned right

>>1769552
>>1769568
Thanks for the feedback

what what

>>1769596

I lerk it u gott a blerg on termbrl

>>1769599
hehehe nop just IC at the moment

>>1769596
My god how indecent

>>1769477

If you had her look at her rapists in the eye it wouldn't seem like she's seizing.

>>1769596
>>1769747
shit you've got the touch

remind me of that guy that did the Xenogears official artwork

>>1769474
Thanks for helping me see the forms. I tend to sperg out with details and don't realise the bigger picture. I'll get some practice and try to simplify forms and values.

>>1769474
Thanks for helping me see the forms. I tend to sperg out with details and don't realise the bigger picture. I'll get some practice and try to simplify forms and values.

yell at me at how I can do better please
need to repaint skin

gonna work more on it when I wake up

>>1769596
Is that a horse vagina?

>>1770104
What you say, you animal fucker?

>>1769566
Left shoulder looks like it's too far forward since from where we're viewing her.

>>1769566

Left shoulder looks like it's too far forward from where we're viewing her.

>>1770031
the colors are muddy,the arms and leg sizes look weird

So, I decided to take drawing as a hobby. I'm thinking about approach range murata way of drawing, since I love it. What's the best way to learn a style? Copying drawings? For face construction and and anatomy I'm going to use fun with a pencil only. What you guys think, do you think this gonna fly?

>>1769142
That's what happens when you learn everything from an artist and not from life.

Kinda dead here huh

>>1770783
pls stop

>>1770783
go away

>>1770783
stay dude and continue learning. you're on the right track

>>1767497

ou
>>1757814

>>1770961

Do you really think he'd download his own picture from tumblr to post it on 4chan to samefag himself? He posted WIPs of it for critique before he even posted it to his tumblr, get real.

>>1770963
ou

>implying

>>1767497
holy shit that's really good! the only complaint i'd make might be a lit bit in the color choice on the mech. the shadowed side just seems a little too light/bluish to me. gotta say tho, its really an impressive piece

>>1768252
the shoulder on the right needs to be pulled up and out somewhat, maybe try to make his grip on the sword sheath a little more natural. its quite a good sketch though

What do you think about this, guys?

>>1771029
the image is sideways, you cunt.
aside from that, she looks very flat. so basically:
>fundies

>>1771029
ok i think i fixed it
>>1771048
what books would you recommend?

ughhh. i hate the face, why does it look so bad

>>1771354
Really strange eyes, odd expression, uneven lips, dull colors make her look slightly corpse-like, and you may want to recheck her forearms because the sleeves make no sense.

>>1771355
that really doesn't help very much im afraid. what is wrong with the eyes and the expression? I know they're the problem, but ive been messing with them and i still don't know what's wrong. should i just pull up some reference and redo the whole face?

>>1771356
Not him, but you're adding those ugly cheekbones on an animu shaped head, so it looks incredibly weird.

>>1771356
eyes are too close together, and the cheekbones are too pronounced, it looks like a man in drag.

soften the cheekbones and change the eyes/make them farther apart

>>1771354

The ratio of the distance between her brow and the bottom of her nose (A) compared to the distance between the bottom of her nose and her chin (B) is off. It should be 1:1 but you have the brow-nose distance longer (A>B), so she looks a little off. Also the middle of the lips is set a bit too low, it should be in the highest third of the nose-chin distance. Pic related

And yea i'd pull up a reference. Gl m8

Teal spotted on /co/

>>1771379
He's in a better place.

>>1771354

>>1771391
It's a really nice painting technique being used here, the lighting seems a little off in the breast, but it's not too noticeable, and the anatomy is done well. There's only one thing that could have been improved, and I did it for you.

>>1771379
Thank you for that, at least I know he's still around.

>>1771399
TOO SOON, TOO SOON

>>1771391

You got worse dude. The nose was fine, and the only problem with the lips was that they look puckered. I suspect the eyebrows may have some problem but I'm not a very good artist.

you're better off searching for references from other artists who do the same stylisation. Qinni from DA maybe, I don't know many artists out there.

>>1771472
>you're better off searching for references from other artists who do the same stylisation. Qinni from DA maybe, I don't know many artists out there.
Bad advice. You really aren't a very good artist if you're telling someone to go do that. Otherwise your critique was okay, don't let this deter you. Just know your shit mayne.

He needs to study skulls and muscles to get an understanding of what's going on so he can simplify it (make a style basically). It helps a lot more than just going and copying someone else blindly

>>1771472
that wasn't me, that looks no better
>>1771476
yeah, i've studied the skull a bit but not the facial muscles at all. pretty out of practice though, not even drawing everyday anymore. shit sucks

>>1771354
>>1771391
Someone did a decent paintover already, but I wanted to try one too. Some points I noticed:

- Her eyes are weird. Why are her lower eyelids curved upward?

- As the other anon demonstrated, her nose is a bit too big if you're going for a "cutesy" look.

- Similarly, the shadows you painted on her face are also a bit too harsh for a cute girl. Go for a softer feel (I'm assuming this is what you're aiming for).

- Your lighting is inconsistent. Judging from the shadow under her nose, seems like light should be coming from above. Her boobs don't look like they're lit from above in your painting. Her arms and body at points 2 and 3 should be darkened in respect to that lighting.

- At point 1, her sleeves make no sense. I tried connecting her arm under your drawing so you can see why those folds look a bit wonky.

Hope that helps.

>>1771490

your faces look like shit, she looks like a man

i'm going to have to start calling her Mani now

my poor mami ;_;

oh the plus side your coloring has potential

thanks for the responses. i decided to change up the expression a bit, since my original intention for it didnt really work out. kinda feels cheap just closing the eyes, but i think it fits the mood of the drawing better. hopefully this looks okay

>>1771514
Add some blush/warm colors to her face maybe.
Don't mirror her skirt. Vary up her hair curl direction/add some loose strands as well.

>>1767497
The man appears to be kinda floaty.

Mech is sunken into the sand but he stands firmly on top of it.

It's inconsistent with everything else touching the sand atleast.

>>1769481
>>1769500
Thanks for the recommendation, is that yours greydeath? Looks great.

Manga studio is way more powerful than what I had in mind! Any recommended settings to change around?

>>1771514
Skirt is very stiff, try taking a table cloth and see how different holds affect it.

Her face is down but her body pose suggests that we should be able to see under the chin. (face up)

The anon who removed the head shows this more clearly. A face needs to complete the gesture of the body, not be stapled on.

>>1771535
>Mech is sunken into the sand but he stands firmly on top of it.

>It's inconsistent with everything else touching the sand atleast.
Not him, but that's probably because the mech and everything else has been there for some time. There's no such thing as quicksand.

>>1771542
Interesting, I searched and found both images of people standing firmly on top of sand at the beach, and people sunken into it slightly - which was what I was thinking of.

Maybe it's his feets perspective then?

>>1771544
>>1771542

Tiny details like that take away from more important criticism.

>>1771354
>ughhh. i hate the face, why does it look so bad
people can only draw what they know. and in this case too, it showed.
even though you were trying to draw mami, the face you were imagining in your head was something entirely different. there is no reason why there would be so many hard and angular features in her face. in the future, try to understand what kind of look you are actually trying to achieve.

study more real humans with real features, also study different proportions you could use. in your case especially, try to the study soft features of children.

another huge mistake is the waistline. notice the contour of the waistline going gown the legs in your image. you definitely were't thinking about anatomy or form in those places.

>>1771574

Very helpful. Well done :o

How do you discern a copy from a study?

Copied this from this artist
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=44497477

>>1771621
Personally, if I gain some knowledge/experience from it then i view it as a study. What were you aiming to gain from this? Did you reach your goal or just mindlessly put down some shapes and lines without thinking?

I am in trouble /ic/, whatever I draw I can't seem to be able to draw hair on a head tilted in this position. Could anyone give me some tips on how to draw them?

>>1771624
Well, I did learn how to put the hair without making it a mess. And the eyes at that view.And how drawing fluffy tail would look like.

I didn't copy it as that though, I also drew a rough draft first considering the perspective.

>>1771627
rotating the head by 90degrees =/= tilting in 3 dimensions
im sure this is not the sort of tilt you were going for
best to approach it properly with construction

>>1771621
if it's done for educational purposes then it's a study. if you release it as your own piece then it's a copy

>>1771636
I didn't draw the head normally and then tilt it, but I see where you're coming from. I'm not practic with anatomy, so I see that the neck and the rest of the body aren't really well drawn, but the head doesn't seem that much off. Is it too much to ask for a redline to see what's wrong?

>>1771627

draw the hair line

drape the hair from the hairline

>>1771663
theres just something weird going on with the perspective/head/neck/torso
3/4 view of the face wouldnt work in this angle- something closer to 1/8 would to prevent neck injuries
the underside of the jaw should also be visible

but the answer regarding hair is >>1771681

>>1771681
>>1771699
Thanks a lot, I see how horribly wrong I was doing.
My issue is that I can't draw right perspective and anatomy from imagination, should I stick with copying and studying stuff over and over before getting there?

>>1771708
yes
look at things (stylized and non-stylized), redraw/reconstruct them and read books on perspective/anatomy but always draw more than you read.

>>1771574
Damn, this looks way nicer than what I drew. Thanks for the advice. I wish I just had the time to actually make good use of it

>>1771765
scary

>>1771765
uncanny valley as fuck

>>1769596
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHH YEAH.

I don't even give a fuck if you made a mistake somewhere.

>>1770104
I wish

>>1771794
i dont think you have any idea what the uncanny valley actually is.

>>1771810
>posts human vagina on cartoon horse
Here this is what you're looking for

>>1771810
>>1771820
stop

>>1771765
her face is too low on her head

>>1771811
I know what it means and I know that I misused the word

If the description for uncanny valley (from wikipedia) is
>when human features look and move almost, but not exactly, like natural human beings, it causes a response of revulsion among some human observers

then what's going on in Mikufags drawing is
>when animu features look almost, but not exactly, like normal human features, it...

I was certain that people would get what I mean, even though I misused the word, and if they did then it doesn't matter if I misused it because I got the point across

>>1771830
Basically the fact that it 'resembles' a face, and we know what he's trying to achieve, but it still looks so wrong that it's disturbing.

>>1771821
don't censor me you bigot!

>>1771765
How do you end up coloring her hair like toothpaste everytime miku? you could look into color theory.
Watch Schoolism - Designing with Color and Light with Nathan Fowkes

>>1771859
i think all he needs to do is maybe just tone down the saturation a bit. i've seen some wigs and people coloring their hair that bright. (though it could also be due to photoshop filters making it out to be brighter than it is.)

>>1770777
I think there is something wrong but i dont know what.

>>1771863
>i've seen some wigs and people coloring their hair that bright. (though it could also be due to photoshop filters making it out to be brighter than it is.)
Most definitely the latter. I have over 20 wigs for cosplay, which include the really bright unnatural colors, and it's never anything close to that.

>>1770777
>>1771865
You went from too desaturated to the other extreme. Tone down the orange and pinks in her skin.
Maybe look at the image on different screens.

>>1771863
No it's not that simple, it's that the hair show no information about light, and it's just an abstract trial
and error kind of mindset going all over the drawing, putting brushstrokes here and there in hope
that something will happen, he should definitely start getting his feet wet in color and light theory at this point.

Value practice because I'm rusty as hell.

>>1771865
Adjust her skintone color to be somewhere in between the two progresses you've posted. I prefer the desaturated one personally and would lean more towards that.

>>1771875
wrong thread senpai

>>1771876
Not stylized enough for this thread? I can't tell anymore.
I alternate between this and the draw thread anyways, it doesn't matter to me.

>>1771875
Awesome.

Like this?

>>1771907
i don't go into these threads often, but just sayin this looks nice so far. the butt/hips might be a bit too big though. i know you're going from a sort of worm's view though.

>>1771907
How you're getting those lines in PS?

>>1771913
Thanks.
Yeah, I'm trying to go for a lower perspective, but I still might have fucked up some proportions along the way. It's not something I'm really used to.

>>1771915
I'm not sure what you mean by that? Just drawing at a high resolution I guess. It's just a normal round brush with pen pressure on.

>>1771918
yeah i get ya, it's a tough angle. i'm sure you could get away with it though if you just made it a little bit smaller. everything else looks alright.

>>1771923
Alright, I'll try. Thanks.

>>1771918
How do I perspective with people?

>>1771946
I don't know why you're asking me, I'm wondering the exact same thing.

>>1771880
why do you over do the eyes all the time?

>>1771946
Read loomis, brah.

>>1771946
Complex forms can be constructed from basic forms. Basic forms are easy to draw in perspective.

What he said >>1771970 . Pretty sure Successful Drawing and Figure Drawing for All Its Worth talk about it a bit. That's a sufficient introduction.

what's the difference between a successful gesture and a shitty one?

how can you tell them apart?

>>1772054
Compare those done by amateurs with those done by skilled instructors. Having an instructor critique and correct a gesture is probably the most informative. This happens a few times in the Vilppu anatomy videos, and a lot of times in the Proko youtube videos (look for the gesture videos, the critique videos, and the question and answer videos).

>>1772054
Shitty gesture mostly tries to capture the contour of the figure rather than the idea and the feeling of the pose.

>>1771765
wtf is she doing with her hair

>>1772291

>>1772305
lel

>>1772305

>>1772305
That is incredibly stiff anon. Don't just try to copy the contours but capture the gesture instead.

In the original we have a clear pinch and pull in the neck and in the torso. We also have forms that recede (lower torso+pelvis), and forms that come forward (thigh).

>>1772305

I'll take raping masterpieces for 800 Alex.

>>1772314

>>1772335
That looks better than the final.

>>1769506

Is this suppose to be a study or some shit bro?

Because it looks like a carbon copy of this

http://kinucakes.tumblr.com/post/77991955046/death-stares

>>1772335
>>1772305
man, learn foreshortening before you attempt to copy. that upper arm is super long and your eyes should be trained to see that.

working on this atm. crits?

>>1772673
tumblr plz go

>>1772674
If you're referring to the slightly peach nose, I haven't shaded it properly yet.

>>1772687
Aww that's cute, has it not occurred to you that I wanted her to look like she's a lil bit cold?
I don't know about you, but my extremities get quite pink when I'm cold as all hell.

>>1772673
darken upper lip. Her right eye should be closer to the nose i believe. Not sure if it should touch the edge of the head. tighten up the headshape with the hair. The thumb has to actually support the phone. The body needs work, the arms the left arm.

>>1772692
subsurface scattering is a thing, so is stylizing. It's the least of your problems.

>>1772687

Are you retarded?

Is this perspective convincing at all? I wasted all of yesterday doing the inks and colours when I should've cleaned up the sketch first, so I want some critique before I go back into it.

>>1772697
Thanks, I'll work on all that.

>>1772687
Looks much better

>>1772703
yes. Fix the feet. They are extremely below the level of everything else. Nothing looks way off. Some minor details such as size difference between the legs, and the holes on the red thing not being in a circle.

>>1772678
>>1772692
Uh no, that whole style reeks of tumblr, it's not just the nose.

>>1772829
It's a cute style though IMO. It really sounds like you're just jealous and buttmad but don't know what to criticize about it, so you call it tumblr-esque as an insult instead.

>>1772674
>>1772687
>>1772829
There's nothing wrong with Tumblr style as long as it still looks decent, you big fucking baby

>>1771894
You're too good for these retards, but i'll take a link to your gallery anyway

>>1772864
>>1772869
I'm not criticizing it as tumblr-esque, or using it as an insult. The other anon called it such, and I was just agreeing with him. I think it's cute as well, but that doesn't mean I can't agree with the fact that it's style is very similar to a generalized style stereotype.

Been working on this and wasn't sure how his left arm was looking. In some references I've seen it in that pose, so I wasn't sure if it was just an awkward pose in and of itself or i'm wrong. any thoughts?

>>1772958
You put that feminine looking thumb hand there didn't choo? At least crop it next time.

>>1772971
Yeah, my bad. Thanks for the crop.

>>1772673
Ear is gigantic and they look cross eyed

>>1772305
I'm not an anime fan, but I like the concept

Work in progress

what is kyle's tumblr?

>>1773805
http://kairunoburogu.tumblr.com/

I'm so close to finishing, yet so far. I'm so tired of abandoning my WIPS or finishing them sloppily.

Am I going to fast on just one section? Or maybe just finish the hair then do skin then so on and so on? Im not sure. Theres so many ways to color I'm honestly overwhelmed and getting fucked in the head.

>>1772703
>>1772756
Form looks better, but I accidentally murdered any vestige of interesting perspective.

Please help me i need critiques to do it right.

how do i make her look younger /ic/?

>>1774286
Bigger head, bigger eyes on the bigger head.

>>1774286
>>1774358
and bigger forehead

>>1772673
jew nose ugly as sin

Is this epictroll?
http://jayelstuf.tumblr.com

I found out why people draw like this now, its so fucking easy, but it kinda looks like ass, what do you guys recon

Any help with why my colour looks like junk compared to say, >>1771854

>>1774440
sounds like you can't tell the difference between good animu and badly drawn one.

>>1774286
Less details on her neck and nose.

>>1773051
cute, but the composition is unbalanced, I'd put in some cool looking clouds or something to break the monotony

>>1774440
Awful.

>>1774447
Because your colors are all very saturated, you don't take into consideration colors that bounce off of other things (look up some james gurney for this) and your shadows on things are just that color but a little darker.

Do some studies from life, or do some landscape or color studies. You need to learn how to pick colors by eye as well as how they behave in the real world.

The difference is that the other artist understands that a little better than you do.
Not to say he doesn't have his own issues, however.

>>1774508
Thanks, that's a really helpful response!

panzer

panzer

>>1774087
first fill the base colors and see if thats whachu want. watch ctrlpaint about choosing colors too.

I know that her shoulders are SO off but no matter what I try to do to fix it, it seems off. I need help

>>1774751
>karin
my nigga.

pull the shoulder further from us back a bit. imagine curved arch going around her back.
pic related, closest match i could find.

>>1774751
oops, wrong pic. have this too.

I did a thing
any comments or critique is appreciated

>>1774882
Get some reference because that torso and neck is messed up

>>1774882
nice rendering and I especially love the ab definition and the hair. It took me a minute to realize that the antlers were hands, I think thats cool.

Theres something jarring about the nipple tho, and if the body is turned to the left it shouldnt be facing the viewer pic related.

>>1774889
I used several references, but I guess i didn't use them well enough in my drawing.
pic related

>>1774890
Thank you! I can totally see the problem with the nipple, and i will fix it asap

>>1774751
Drawing shoulders well is about everything but the shoulders. The neck has to be in a good position, the trapezius has to shape the whole upper shoulder area. The chest, and the breast muscles are important. The way the arm connects on the back and the front is important. My mistake is visible there, it should probably not connect to the outline but to the wing muscle. I try to focus on the way the collarbones move when assuming the pose you're trying to capture. It says a lot about the position of the body. My skills are real shit but hope it helps.

>>1774751
The anterior part of the deltoid muscle originates from middle-ish of the clavicle. You need to change the silhouette line so it show this else the arms will just look like two indepedent cylindes instead of being attatched. Also consider how the pectorals inserts.

>>1774898
using a ref is not a substitute for learning real anatomy. You have failed to define the chest and abdomen; it looks like texture on a flat board, not a form. you don't know forms well enough to pull off only using reference, which is why it looks flat. This will be a good piece to look back on after you get better.

>>1774772
>>1774911
>>1774917
Thank you so much, anons! I've been dealing with a huge art block for the past month or so where I just haven't gotten any inspiration at all, and this help has inspired me to study more because dang I never realized how bad I've been doing, haha. I'm so happy!

Started drawing about month ago. Not the most recent drawing I have, but it's one that I did completely from scratch (no reference). Critique away.

whattya think?

critique please

>>1774981
Jinxes Rocket kinda looks like a dick, its al I can focus on

>>1774978
hello fellow newbie
I know some people hate hearing this but read the sticky
but to hear what's not on there: get good tastes.
know what's shit and what's good, that way you'll able to see more mistakes on your drawings and realize you're not good/get gud faster.
but don't go too far and start saying shit like "boo hoo I'll never be a good artist ;_;"
stay positive and work hard

>>1774988
Not him, but that picture. Feels like I've never felt before, cannot fathom. Neither half empty nor half full it's just so unfamiliar. What is this feel.

>>1774988
>I know some people hate hearing this but read the sticky
Seriously it helps us out a lot. Nobody wants to type out shit that's already in the sticky a million times.

>>1774995
Uncanny valley

>>1774998
Fool, you don't know what Uncanny Valley is.

>>1774999
That's not uncanny valley that's just 3edgy5me shit

>>1774999

>so heavily stylized you can instantly tell it's a doll

That's not uncanny valley. You don't know shit.

>>1775010
Androids/actroids are a good place to look for uncanny valley stuff.
They're like animated dead bodies almost.

>>1775002

>>1774998
Not even close, some heavy uncanny valley shit are those creepy little girls that get posted from time to time on different boards.

>>1775010
>>1775002

Is a doll not uncanny? Something that resembles a face but not really?

>>1775019
Not when it's obviously a doll.

Also that girl is just tons of plastic surgery and makeup tricks. If her eyes looked more dead maybe.

>>1774998
is that supposed to be something bad? i really like the picture.

>>1775025
Nah it was a joke. The pic is fine.
Kinda funny that people have taken it seriously and gone into an argument about it though.

>>1775031
No, it brought up an interesting topic what makes something uncanny or pleasant to look at.

>>1775035
>one or the other

>>1771535
The pencils were by John Royle, I'm just inking it for him. As for MS5, I've just scratched the surface of the things it can do, messing around mostly with the pressure curve for the Pencils and Pens. You can do all sorts of things with tones and importing 3D models, but I haven't touched those. Vector pathing can be had also, but I don't think it's as versatile as Illustrator.

Wow, this thread's been around for ages. Are people not drawing in the summer? Have a doodle then.

>>1775140
We don't have that much people anyway, it's probably because miraculously no one started any big argument
about something and people are actually posting about drawings.

woo,explosions

Its day 37 since I drew last. Looked in the mirror saw grey hairs. Aging so fast. Wish I would have done it differently. Managed not to drink last 3 days. Want to draw but everything sounds bad and I have no inspiration because nothing interests me. Would like to draw anime/manga stuff but I have to be able to draw correctly first or else its just fireplace food.

How you guys living?

>>1775233
It's been a long time since I last drew too. I got discouraged because nobody wanted to buy a drawing from me on fiverr. I have enterance exams in 2 weeks for art academy. I think I won't pass them, but I can't get myself to practice, because then I'll get cold feet and not go at all.

So how do I move this bar, it keeps covering up my work every time I select/wand something.

>>1774988

Next level Rustle.

>>1775233
>>1775255
Find you're waifu. Make smile. If no waifu no matter, waifu finds you.

>>1775430
ur my waifu anon

>>1775421
Stop using shitty programs

>>1775430
My husbando will never love me ;_;

And kojima will never make another Rising

morning warm up

First time sharing my artwork, and I'd really appreciate some critique. I just recently started doing digital.

i added a rommel...

>>1775255
I don't understand people who buy drawings.

You at least are nothing at the start of your life, not 13-15 years in.

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>>1775590
>>1775590
>>1775590

>>1775183
I don't know what to say, but thats pretty cute