/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1761648
>>1761653

(From the last thread)
Your gestures don't look too bad, although you should be careful about your proportions, how the figure is planted onto the ground, and plumb lines especially. I don't actually know what vilppu is (I haven't actually been on /ic/ in years), but from what I gather it's some kind of course?

When studying anatomy, I borrowed my friend's "Artistic Anatomy" book (can be found on amazon, not sure about any free pdf's online) that shows muscles, the muscles under muscles, and how they all look together. Not saying you need to get this book, since your muscle studies seem to be coming along well, but if you're ever confused about any tiny muscles lying under other ones, that book is really good at showing everything. One of the best anatomy exercises I've ever done, was taking sketches and drawings done by old experts like Michelangelo, Greuze, Leyendecker, etc. and trying to outline the muscles in their sketches.

Aside from all of that, you should pay a lot of attention to your bones, and skeletal structures. Your drawings with a reference are okay, but your Rin's are significantly more awkward. Try doing a pose in a mirror before you draw it, to get an idea of whether it makes sense, and how natural it feels. Don't be afraid to look at references, since your drawings could really use them. You seem to be on the right track so far, keep working at it.

>>1761579
jelly u cant draw qt girls gud?

>>1761736
I'll definitely take this to heart and go back to working on anatomy before I continue. Kind of want to finish it up before I go back to practice, but I think studying again would be for the better too.

Vilppu's videos are just another set of fundamental/anatomy basics like Loomis and I much prefer them to Loomis as they are easier to follow IMO at least.

I kind of got afraid to use references after a while because I was having that "anime mask on realistic body" problem for the longest time. I think I'll start relying more heavily on references again now that I have the right direction for faces.

Thanks again.

>>1761648
collect your own refs and make a slideshow out of it. programs like irfanview can do that

Updated.What do you guys think?

so many fetishes...

>>1762208
aaaaw yissss

>>1762208
...is farting one of them?

>>1762206
The biggest problem right now is the faces. They look really flat because the neck isn't connecting at the right place and the shading wonky. Try Looking at anime figure heads and study how the light hits them.

The breast are also a bit too high as well. . The ones I drew might be saggin a bit too much for being inside a bra but it gets the point across. The cleavage line should never be that close the pit of the collar bone. They start at the delicious arm pits.

Your proportions seem pretty good though. The legs might be a bit too long, but that's more of a preference thing because long legs can be sexy

>>1762206
The biggest problem right now is the faces. They look really flat because the neck isn't connecting at the right place and the shading wonky. Try Looking at anime figure heads and study how the light hits them.

The breast are also a bit too high as well. . The ones I drew might be saggin a bit too much for being inside a bra but it gets the point across. The cleavage line should never be that close the pit of the collar bone. They start at the delicious arm pits.

Your proportions seem pretty good though. The legs might be a bit too long, but that's more of a preference thing because long legs can be sexy

I feel like the nose isn't pointing in the right direction... anything else?

>>1762208

where's the anus Kyle?

>>1762383

Looks really janky, flat and uneven. It looked alright at first glance but the more I looked at it the more stuff I found wrong with it.

Construct the head and then envelop the helmet around it

The cheek plating doesn't look like that either

>>1760666

>>1762542

here lies mikufag, he never scored

>>1762544
A supreme gentleman indeed.

>>1762548
10 ft tall cockmonglers

>>1762538
Thanks for the feedback.

How would I draw right forearm? it's supposed to be holding halberd

>>1762548
Tits overlap the armpit, almost as if they are anchored to the upper shoulder rather than the chest.
Elbow tapers off ungracefully.
The right shoulder (viewers left) seems to be just as high up as the other one, yet the tit is considerably lower.
Lots of poins in this are off balance because you probably drew the tits first and the torso around it.
Practice with real porn if you are going to draw toon porn.
I recommend looking at Gianna Michaels for that body type. Maybe Sophie Dee?
Find a video you like.
Pause it at a good point.
Draw from there.
Do this enough, and your tits will look shapely and natural.

Also, some of those dicks.
Think of where the men would have to be for them to be in that position.

One of those dicks is upside down.
Is he doing a handstand?

Is that Wilt Chamberlin on the left?

Is she on the ground?

Who was phone?

>>1762655

It's prolly too close to the body/canvas limit.

>>1762520
Right above the vagina. Cant you see it?

>>1762542
Weren't you supposed to be quitting?

>>1762659
Oh gosh haha. Thanks for this! You've kinda hit the nail on the head. I'll look into what you mentioned, thanks for the recs too.

And yeah, I always fuck up with dicks/what on em. Guesg I'll just have to do more, uh, studies on them too. That'll be fun.

>>1762744
>been looking at dicks so long I can't tell the back from the front :^)

Humbly asking for critique. Do you guys find this kind of style appealing?

Also, when drawing animu faces, how big should the eyes be? I always end up redrawing them until they just "look right".

>>1762752
your linework is pleasant to look at

and there's no bigness criteria for animu eyes or whatever, what the hell
though i guess it depends on how uguu~ you want to go
just keep doing what you're doing with making them look right to you

FEEL IT

>>1762752
I like it, they look like that dou artist whose name I never knew.
>Also, when drawing animu faces, how big should the eyes be? I always end up redrawing them until they just "look right".
Just figure it yourself, stylize it the way u want anon.

>>1762752
sketchy? no I mean stuff like vagabond or blade of the immortal where most of the lines are complete but the smoothness is sketchy is okay or heavy on hatching but incomplete lines looks shit and makes me feel like I have autism

the eyes should be as big as you want them but in order to not look inbred or shit keep them the same size in your pic, the girl is cute but finish the lines and darken them up with more ink

you seem to have some potential try not to ruin it

>>1762752
Im still a newbie, and this is what I want my style to be like, a nice simplistic but still detailed Mixture

I see. I appreciate your comments.

>>1762775
Sorry about that, I was thinking whether or not I was actually going to finish this.And I'll try not to ruin anything like you said.

>>1762779
Drawing from life will be very helpful. I can't put it well into words but it gives you a lot of "freedom" when drawing.

I didnt draw this, but what do you guys think of this kind of Art Style, I dont know what it is but I really like this style

first painting in a while, what went wrong?

>not my fetish

Ok, what else?

>>1763190

Shadow -> Midtones -> Light
Warm-> Saturated -> Cool

Broken spine impossible pose on Mrs. Incredible

You're better than this dude

>>1763190
Well, her Torso would be fucking snapped

>>1763205
Everything you said to him was right but
>Impossible pose on Mrs. Incredible
I chuckled.

>>1763205
yeah, i just wanted to do a boobs/butt pose, I acknowledge it's totally wrong.

I'm wondering want you meant by this though

>Shadow -> Midtones -> Light
>Warm-> Saturated -> Cool

>>1763215

I geddit

Despite the properties of the character the pose could have been better thought out

>>1763221

Midtones are where the most saturation in color happens

Artificial Light:
Shadows = Warm
Light = Cool

Natural Light:
Shadows = Cool
Light = Warm

You just get a better value read when the darks/lights are opposite to each other in color temperature.

>>1763234
Ah, thank you!

>>1763190
good lord

I got really lazy with the legs of the girl at the right, but here are my sketches. Any critique would be very helpful.

>>1763374

I just got my ass kicked by the Catacombs Axe Black Knight, almost dropped 20k souls and 15 manatees, thanks for the reminder

Trying to work on backgrounds, planning to sharpen up the foreground a bit as I go. Wip.

does anyone know of any resources pertaining to comic/manga drawing?

stuff about screen tones, text, editing digitally, etc. anything would help, really.

>>1763431
the figure is not in the same perspective as the trees

>>1761673
Having trouble with the arms and stuff please help

>>1763589
The arms are the lesser problem I see there.
Are those breasts coming from her neck?. And she looks like she has elephantiasis, those legs are horrid.

>>1763604
Draw on the areas the you see the problem, I would like constructive criticism.

>>1763606
>I would like constructive criticism.

http://www.deviantart.com/

Make an account, purchase membership or if you have an account be a good goy and purchase membership.

>>1763589
The boobs are super off, the hair is covering the arm in a weird and flattening way. The clean up line on the right end of torso is too heavy and the lines across the torso don't follow the form (or a form, like some cloth) enough

Nice pelvis though. Seems like you understand the concept of structure (but need to keep working on it, especially dem boobs). Face isn't so bad either, and the line looks pretty strong in some areas

>>1763589
Arms should be facing the viewer and foreshortened to look more natural, legs are a bit too long, and breasts shouldn't be connected to the neck like the others said.

>>1763625
>>1763638
Thanks guys working on to fix it now. Have not drawn in a very long time now.
>>1763620
I always thought DA was for circle jerking and not criticism I have never seen criticism and that's why I never use mine. Always thought it was some sort of popularity contest or some shit for snowflakes.

>>1763648
It is and the reason why I am telling you this is because if you feel entitled to constructive you have that option, unlike here it depends on the kindness from others.

>>1763652
You gave a sassy comment, I gave one back. I will be the better person and apologize for assuming that you wanted to help. Have a nice day Anon.

Doodle before work.

The perspective feels very off to me.Help?

What do I do about the chest/ right shoulder? I can't seem to get it to look at least decent.

>>1763589
I was bored and draw-y, so here's a redline for you!
Being the first to admit I'm no expert on anatomy, listen to every single word I say without questioning me (no but really i'm just highlighting some points and you should look up references based on the problem areas because firsthand research is the best kind). ALRIGHT!
Allowing for how long the legs are (because i'm like that too), the construction could use a bit of improvement. First, think about placement. The way her left (our right) leg is jutting out suggests (to me at least) that it should be pointing outward, otherwise I feel a bit like she's going to fall over.
Then think about the separate parts of the leg and how they relate to eachother. The upper leg tapers into the knee, and doesn't seem to end until the bottom of it. The knee, at its simplest, is pretty much a ball and tends to bulge out as such in the front, especially when the leg is straightened.The lower leg, meanwhile, connects at the bottom of the knee in the front and the back of it in the back. The front goes straight down, sometimes almost appearing to curve inwards, while the back of it bulges out before tapering in almost dramatically at the ankle.
The foot deserves more consideration as well, I mean it gets walked all over all the time and doesn't say a thing (sorry)! The doodle on the pic shows the relation between the parts well enough, I think. Also, in heels the ankle follows the sole damn near in a straight line to the ball, so the heel juts out more significantly than usual.
And though I didn't take the liberty to show this in the drawing, imitating the pose in the mirror shows that it's fairly uncomfortable, especially on tiptoes, to hold it without straining a muscle more than it needs to. A good habit, when convenient, is to do poses in a mirror BEFORE starting, to make sure it's plausible and to pick your line of action and support leg.
Also, booby connects at armpit uvu (Sorry for length but I hope it helps!)

>>1763754
horrible redline

>>1763754
This is fucking terrible STOP SYMBOL DRAWING

>>1763759
Exactly how? The lines are shaky, sure, but it seems fine otherwise

>>1763770
Apologies. Everything in it is a bit doodly because I was mainly giving tips; the drawings are just the best way I know how to explain what I mean. They aren't intended to really be studied from, because I know that that would be irresponsible at my current skill level, so I only drew them very basically. That's why I said in the post that references should be searched for accordingly and looking in the mirror (drawing from life in general, now that I think of it) is the best way to go.
That said, I'll have to keep a lookout for whether I've been drawing symbolically in my own work, so thank you for reminding me of that at least.

>>1763754
Thank you anon I really appreciate it!

>>1763374

art style reminds me of the art in final fantasy tactics

>>1763752
Other tit needs to be in slight View I think

>>1762206
>shadingtoblack/10

>>1763880
I made it noticeable, but I tried not to make it come out too far. Hows this?

>>1763897
Damn phone tilted the pic. Sorry. Heres it not tilted.... I hope.

>>1763897
>>1763900
man just go in MSPaint and rotate it

>>1763897
Sorry about the sideways view. Cant get my dumb phone to post it the right way.

>>1763901
I would, but right now I only have my phone as a way to go online.

>>1763905
Just tilt your phone while you upload

hey i drew this not to long ago.

what should i focus on improving? not in this drawing specifically but overall.

>>1763927
Her boobs are weird.

>>1762542
this is honestly hella cute

>>1763931
[spoiler]i get that a lot

>>1763927
The proportions within the stylization. It looks odd with her legs being so long and her torso being so short. If you want "long legs" don't necessarily make the torso shorter... Look at Korean dancers' proportions more than the usual person's. This just looks awkward.

I'm not the best at drawing pokémon, but I gave it a try. I think I might've made her right arm a bit too long and her thighs a bit too fat. Anything else I might've gotten wrong?

>>1763941
Then try to fix it negro

>>1761673
I know, it isn't big dick futa waifu porn.

>>1763375
>not knowing the easy shortcut down to pinwheel

>>1764259
you could turn it into big dick futa waifu porn

Does it look okay so far?

>>1764390
no

>>1764400
C-could you elaborate on why and how to fix it? Should I make the head smaller?

>>1764406
>>1764390

>>1764411
I meant if the limbs looked okay proportionally and whatnot.

what do you think of these?
1/3

>>1764447
2/3

>>1764448
3/3

I've been studying lately, and I'm starting to get into a good groove with drawing.


>>1764447
>>1764448
>>1764449
These look really nice, though there's something off about the shark/whale picture concerning perspective/anatomy that I can't quite put my finger on.

>>1763589
Her torso from the hip up is too small and short for her legs. You also need to have her breasts sit lower than they currently do in relation to her shoulders - they come out from the arm pit. I also don't think she'd be able to stand on her toes in heels like that... flatten the heeled shoe to the floor and rotate her foot back a bit so her weight is resting in her heel otherwise it'd be easy for her to fall over. Plus don't forget to taper at the ankles.

I also don't really like how you'd done the hair.

What do you chaps think of this?

>>1764687
This picture has a lot of blank space. If you don't want to fill it with anything, I'd suggest to just cut it off so that your image's dimensions follow your composition. Don't hesitate to cut off a part of the turret if you feel like you have to.

You might want to consider using a thinner brush for your fine detail - eyes, nose, mouth, knees, etc.

Also, don't use the bucket tool.

I'm trying to get better spatial awareness.

Would you guys say that the volume lines line up ok?

Not my drawing, just using it for practice.

crit please :)

>>1764745

>>1764743
Your lines aren't following the proper curvature of the muscles/body and to me it seems like a half arsedway of going about improving your spatial awareness. Try this thing from the Vilppu drawing manual instead.

Need more loomis?

>>1764750

they're guide-lines for light work more than anything

>>1764721
What is wrong with the bucket tool? What should I use instead?

>>1764743
>>1764753

Speaking of which, how is this?

I've been trying to learn how to color digitally for a while now.

>>1764764
don't use black like that

>>1764758
a brush, look at those white marks

>>1764767

Explain

>>1764781

Color pick any photograph of any person and you'll see that there is a hue difference between lit, mid tone and darker areas of their skin.

By going with just a base color and then lowering its value you're not doing it right.

Also stop with the soft shading.

How does it look? Can anyone point me the thousand anatomical mistakes I've done? I believe the neck is one...
inb4 go study, I know it's shit, it's just something I'm doing to break from studying, 2burned2study

>>1764771
I used a brush on the edges but I tried not to ruin the line.

>>1764787
>Also stop with the soft shading.
this
it looks off with the thick lines

>>1764745
I hope you made these ironically

>>1764745

I'm looking at getting some practice with Loomis, fun with a pencil. Should I be using pencil and paper for this since it's mostly just dimensions and shape(I think) or should I be practicing with my tablet since that's what I want to get better with?

Anything spectacularly wrong?

>>1764833
she is flying

>>1764834
I'm pretty sure i would have noticed if she was flying.

>>1764833
The face looks a bit off, her knees look edgy and her hips looks to large but that could be put down to taste I guess.

>>1764833

head too big
hands too small
facial features placed incorrectly

>>1764825

have you even seen this kid's personal blog? of course he's being unironic, he loves that white kid hypebeast seapunk fuccboi shit

>>1764764
you need to add color to lines too.

>>1764746
That dudes crotch thinks the whole situation is hilarious.

>>1764902
>2014
>not having a cock with its own conciousnes

>>1764904
>not following Kyle's advice and letting your dick guide you towards mastering feet.

>>1764830
If you have an intuos it doesn't matter.

>>1764853

link to their personal?

>>1764949

http://blvcklvndpvppixsvnvngxlz.tumblr.com/

I made this for this >>>/i/410559 thread on /i/. I'm aware that this sucks big time dicks on a technical level but I can't quite put my finger on what exactly is the matter with it. Any tips that can help me make my people look less like lumpy shit would be helpful.

I'm wondering which idea is better and fun? probably gonna went to the right one but want to know if you guys can tell what is happening on it and that if the idea has been conveyed properly and readable.

>Finish practicing some faces
>Go on /ic/
>Cry because everyone is better than you
>Rinse repeat

It hurts

>>1765044
Those faces look already derpy as fuck in the reference. Studying from actual anime screenshots is probably the worst thing you can do considering just how many off-model QUALITY shots a typical anime has.

>>1765047
Well fuck. What should I draw from then, manga?

>>1765044
>Referencing Animu

WHY.

>>1765052
Draw from life. Learn the rules before you break them, get fundamentals down. You are referencing something that was purposely butchered for the sake of preserving shekels and energy as a consequence the quality is severely decreased it's a terrible reference you are not learning anything as a matter of fact you are hurting yourself since you will not have to break the bad habits you picked up.

>>1765052
>What should I draw from then, manga?

>>1765055
>since you will not have to break the bad habits you picked up.

Since you will now have to break the bad habits you picked up.

>>1765055
I do some anatomy practice from reference pictures separately. I was looking specifically for something so I could practice manga-styled eyes / hair / etc. Is this still a bad idea?

>>1765057
I-I didn't k-know

>>1765060
Yes it's still a bad idea if you really want to reference an already stylized figure find an Artist who has their fundamentals down and reference them however you will learn a lot more if you study from masters of old.

You do anatomy practice but are you really learning anything? How about Gesture? Perspective?

something is way off with this one but I can't pinpoint it. Ive tried just messing around with the head shape and face placement but no dice. Anyone can offer some advice? (This is for practice, I will most likely be discarding this and attempting to make something with more energy and facial expression. But for the time being I'd like to learn from my mistakes)

>>1765063
>Gesture? Perspective?
I don't know man, I watched some Ctrl+Paint videos and started trying to draw things the way he does, with skeletons and basic shapes. Been doing that for a few months. Judging from these reactions I guess it's still too early to start cartooning in any way.

Back to the sticky, I guess.

>>1765052
If you want to learn a specific style, then study from artists who are good at it. In case of anime, marketing illustrations tend to be a much better source to study from than the actual anime itself, because animators obviously have to but far less time and effort into a single drawing than an illustrator would.

I wouldn't bother studying a particular style before you have a basic idea of the real fundamental concept behind it though. In this case, head anatomy. You should have at the very least a good enough understanding of the fundamentals to be able to see when an image has messed up proportions that are not due to the style, but mistakes of the artist, like in your reference.

>>1765065
There is a whole lot more than just simplified bone structures, and anatomical studies as a matter of fact it seems you are missing the most critical part and that is Gesture, look up Vilpuu's systematic approach to figure drawing.

Once you study your fundamentals you can carry these along with you and they will follow you with whatever you do:

Gesture
Proportions
Perspective
Basic Forms
Anatomical knowledge

>>1765064
giant head

tiny chest

face is too big relative to the head, eyes too far wide apart

>>1765066
>>1765075

>I wouldn't bother studying a particular style before you have a basic idea of the real fundamental concept behind it though. In this case, head anatomy.
>see when an image has messed up proportions

This I would actually like some clarification on because I thought the proportions were pretty decent.

- Head is oval
- Eyes start 1/2 of way through the head
- Nose goes from eye line to 1/2 of the way to the chin
- Ears start at eye line and end at mouth line
- Eyes are about the same size
- Eyes are about 1 eye-length apart (at least on the left girl)

Isn't this how human face anatomy should be or have I completely fucked up my understanding of drawing faces? Not saying that you guys are wrong, saying that this was my understanding of faces and if that's wrong I need to do some relearning.

>look up Vilpuu's systematic approach to figure drawing
Or should I shut up and find all the answers with this Vilpuu guy?

>>1765064
I think it's because the ears are too low and neck is a bit too long/big.

>>1765077
Whoops, meant to quote >>1765069 instead.

>>1765077
If you haven't tried Loomis or Vilppu yet or just can't understand them, you might want to watch this for head construction: http://www.proko.com/how-to-draw-the-head-from-any-angle/

>>1764471
Disgusting

>>1765075
>>1765079
Thanks guys, I tinkered with the eyes a bit and I can't believe I didn't catch how wide apart they were. Next time I should probably use a reference before just jumping into trying to make something work.

>>1761673
Look out d/ic/ks... there's a new Mikufag in town.

>>1765064
Your proportions are a little off on the face.

They are WAY off on the torso; unfortunately my MS Paint skills are limited so I can't really redline that area.

In general, the head you drew is for a much larger torso than what she has. The shoulders are also unrealistically angular (they should be rounder). There is also meat on the human body between the neck and shoulder that you have omitted from this poor girl, which consequentially makes how you attached the neck to the torso look strange. Copy this pose in a mirror and you will see what I'm talking about.

Also, is she shrugging AND throwing her shoulders back? That's a very uncomfortable position (try doing it). It'd look much more natural if you lowered her shoulders to a resting position.

>>1765161
forgot to mention -- by proxy of moving the eyes inwards, the spacing from the eyes to side of head needs to be narrowed a tad as well

>>1765106
l-lewd!

I started shading with no defined lightsource in mind. I think it shows. Are the mid-ground buildings fucked, guys? Are the background buildings even shadowed correctly? I think the water tower shadow is also messed up. Not sure.

(explanation: originally, only a small strip of this was going to be used but I decided to expand the picture, hence the missing chunks of buildings and why parts of it are more complete than others.)

>>1765161
Not the one who posted the image but helpful crit is helpful. thanks

>>1765064
>jinx
>blue eyes

>>1765039
What's happening on the second one? trying to steal food? Did they steal the food and eat him on the first one?
Anyway, I'd say first one but maybe more emphasis on the kids (angle, composition, values idk)

these legs are so fucked up please help

>>1764520
whats up with the left leg?

>>1764991
>http://blvcklvndpvppixsvnvngxlz.tumblr.com
>>1764991
I HATE YOU

>>1764411
There, I made the lines a bit less CS-y. Now tell me what's wrong so I can fix it.

>>1765106
B-blog, please.

>>1761673

>>1765106
m-make it a boy, anon

>>1765239
Shieet, I thought it was a boy.

>>1765208
>What's happening on the second one? trying to steal food? Did they steal the food and eat him on the first one?
The second one is actually some customer finding out they're eating fake meat. While eating, medieval police came arrested the chef and the other police took out the evidence from the food stock (barrel) which is the monster meat that's use to cook the customer's food which that they already started eaten (bitten food).

The second one has no correlation with the first one though both ideas actually stems from an initial idea which I have problem conveying also.

>I'd say first one but maybe more emphasis on the kids
I will, this are roughs just to show the ideas across, haven't played with thumbnail and angles yet.

Thanks for the input.

If anyone has idea how to make the second one have more clarity then it would be cool, otherwise I'll probably just use it for a comic scene.

>>1765233

why don't you just look at a picture of Nagisa, you made him look so creepy because of how you defined the nose, and the mouth is just plain wrong. The ears are also not supposed to be that low, draw them so that the the top of the ear is level with the top of his eyes, maybe a bit higher because of the angle of his face. It also strikes me that his forearms are kind of beefy, but I think the issue is that your drawing would go beyond the limits of the canvas but since you've already gone to the limits you're squeezing his arms in to fit. Extend your canvas on the sides so you have more space to draw and then crop it down.

>>1765237
read the sticky

>>1765253
Thank you, Jesus.

>>1765257
great advice parrot

>>1765279
it actually would help

>>1765300
In the same way that if someone would just git gud it would help them.

It's much too vague and generic. Give some actual critique or don't even bother commenting, shit head.

>>1765303

Give some actual critique? You can't run before you crawl. You can't draw humans before perspective and form.

>>1765210
There's more to her figure messed up than her legs (see pic for notes), but basically your main problem is that you did not draw a skeleton (or if you did, then you drew it incorrectly).

Remember that when girls cross their legs, the knees will cross the center line of the body to the other side. Right now her left (our right) leg is not moved far enough over. The angle she is currently sitting at, you should actually be able to see BOTH thighs in the picture -- almost all of her right thigh, and a little bit of her left leg's inner thigh. You will also get a little bit of her crotch as well.

Regarding her right leg, while it is mostly turned to the side, there is still a little bit facing towards the viewer. Because of this, her foot would not be completely sideview like you drew in the pic, but rather angled slightly towards us. We should be able to see most of her toes.

Her foot is slightly too small, and her hand very much too large. Good rule of thumb:
>foot length = distance from wrist to inner elbow
>hand size (base of palm to fingertip) slightly smaller than face

>>1765106
Didn't know as109 came here.

>>1763648
its not a circle jerk unless you are good.
no one circle jerks you if you suck, i should know.
hell, no one fucking cares unless you are above a certain level of skill, been on that site for over 10 years now...

>>1765312 again--
I was on the fence on whether to comment on her wrist or not but now I feel I should after looking at the pic again.

I can't tell what angle her forearm is at, but if the inner forearm is facing the viewer then her hand cannot be attached to her arm as it currently is without breaking her wrist. If her forearm is turned so that its side is facing the viewer, then you need to redraw the forearm so it actually looks like we are looking at it from the side.

sorry for double-post... it was really bothering me. have a sage

>>1765312
or you could have just said it acks depth and thats all he could have work on
>tossing bullshit everywhere

>>1765237
The proportions do not look right particularly the thighs. and she has no nipples.

>>1765345
>you could have just said it acks depth and thats all he could have work on
Fair enough. The artist did specifically request help on the legs because they were "so fucked up", but don't say I'm "tossing bullshit everywhere" when I'm not -- aside from "lacking depth" there were also problems in how the figure is positioned that caused the issue with the legs.

If you can't see these BASIC anatomy problems with the original pic, then you need to get back to your fundamentals. Have some goddamn redlines.

>>1765393
motherfucker I drew the damn foot backwards. I'm going to fucking bed. fucking /ic/, man.

>>1765360
why is she naked? what is she doing?

>>1765398
summoning your boner

>>1765360
>>1765398
I'm more concerned as to why she is making that face tbh

>>1765360

Dat O face,
Someone should edit a cock going into her mouth

>>1765400
Not really. All western cartoon porn looks like just a try-hard imitation to me.

>>1765360
Seriously Kyle fuck off.

>>1765360
In my opionion, you look like you're sanitizing all the personality out of your lineart and coloring. you need to remember art doesn't always need to be polished 100% and in fact sometimes looks better unfinished or simplified. you also need to remember the intent of the image to prevent confusion. what is the primary function of this drawing? to tittilate? or to show a woman running? why are her arms akimbo? people don't ever look like this when they're running. you're clearly capable of drawing, but you should move away from the techniques of popular overworked overworked-anime-painters on deviantart as they have become incredibly stale by now. what's the difference between this and a piece by genzoman other than the fact genzo drew one slightly better? there need to be MORE differences. I hope that helps

>>1765414
try something like this

>>1765323
>>1765393

Thanks so much for the redline. Honestly there's so much wrong that's been pointed out now I'm not sure whether the right thing to do is work on it or toss and start over though.

>>1765414
I agree the pose is a little awkward, but I like this image more than anything genzoman churns out. And there is nothing wrong with "popular overworked-anime-painters". There's a reason they're popular.

>>1765397
The foot isn't the only thing in that redline that looks awful.

Please learn how foreshortening works before you redline.

>>1765433
except you can't tell any of them apart and thats why they cant get work despite a million hits

>>1761673
I want to draw but got nothing in my mind to draw.

>>1765452
Draw your waifu doing cute things
I'd draw shit like that all day if I could draw properly

>>1765452
That is why I go to draw threads, the problem is that there is never anything that I want to draw there, a/ is full of moe waifus and b/ is just shit.

>>1765460
Don't have a waifu.

>>1765470
I always hangout there. There was a Sunday at waifu draw thread that made me draw 4 waifus. Poses just came to my mind. Right now, my mind is blank.

>>1765473
I usually just draw one a day. You could browse anime pics for inspiration.

>>1765471
Then draw the waifu of somebody else

>>1765452
What have you done to Rin!!!
havent' really worked on the piece in OP since, been doing alot more practice and studies recently, one being here >>1764993

>>1765479
Draw mine!

just trying to draw kawaii things

>>1765493
It looks creepy

>>1765496
nah man, it's kawaii desu

>>1761673
I know I need to be drawing from life but referencing anime is fun. How is it btw?

>>1765493
butterface

>>1765511
Youve made no progress from >>1765154
Try harder anon

>>1765422
boring

plz r8 my stile

>>1765606
Unfuck the neck and you're golden.

>>1765493

I like it. Try to control your line weights a little more and watch the messy places

>>1765606
not kawaii enough

Thoughts?

>>1765665
>>1765606
pls dun bully the rins

>>1765697
manchin/10

>>1765606
Choose a kana, faggot.

>>1765769
anything else?

>>1765781
left side looks bigger than right one

>>1765008
poor forms give you lumpiness, try to draw mannequins of form to get solidness aside from that study more anatomy and how they look.

the foreshortening in this case is wrong as well, you must overlap forms rather than draw them doing those extreme wide angle perspective look.

>>1765349
i always get this. how do i pull off exaggerated big thigs without making it look retarded?

>>1765257
pic related, it's for you

>>1765830
pic related, it's for you

>>1765830
I bet you use SAI too fucking faggot

>>1765830
>>1765858

Whatchu think? commission for a daki.

>>1765918

>>1765876
wtf is wrong with sai?

>>1765945
wtf is wrong with photoshop?

>>1765938
Lines look ok.
Seems unnaturally stiff. Is she supposed to be lying down or levitating? Boobs don't look like that without a bra if she's lying down. Hair doesn't look "dynamic" if she's floating.
Hands and feet.
Cuffs on shirt are out of perspective.
What's a Paladin?

>>1765918
another faggot refusing to pay for SAI. It's not even that expensive!

>>1765944

>>1765954

>>1765965
>>1765954
>>1765944
>>1765918
>>1765858
>>1765830

I want Australia to leave.

>>1765948
She's supposed to be lying down. I imagined that her breasts were being held up by her arms, but maybe I didn't think about it thoroughly enough.

>>1765965

>>1765983
>Cut
>Master race

Pick one.

havent had much time to practice
i guess that's what i get for being an engineer
here's a few doodles

>>1766013

>>1766013
>>1766014
cuuute!

epictroll pls stap

>>1765493
that nose makes her look like a goblin imo

>>1766031
Kawaii goblin??

>>1766040
No, uglyass goblin.

>>1765161
>not how proportions work

>>1765360
WHERES HER RIGHT ARM

>>1765393
redlien still lacks depth

>>1765944
>>1765858
>>1765965
Love this new meme

>>1766150
that's because you're samefagging

>>1766152
He isn't me, retard.

>>1766160
>being this defensive

confirmed for samefag

>>1766160
Fuck you samefag

>>1766221
Reminds me of this image that I somehow found inspiring.

>>1766251

that guy can actually draw though, he just draws those shit comics for giggles.

Feedback please, and please be gentle

>>1766286
her left eye is too close to the nose

>>1766290
better now?

>>1764721
Like this?

>>1765918
>stabilizer on 7
Get fukn gud scrub

>>1766373
What exactly does Stabilizer do?

>>1766377
It makes you rely on it for clean lines without steps and blotches.

>>1764752
Post more of your heads. Can't see anything too wrong with this one.

Fuck, my eyes are burning. I think I'll leave this one for tonight.

(I know there's no ears. I'm getting there!)

>>1766456
Consider using f.lux for your monitor.
Yes, I know, it changes the value for white temperature, but you can adjust that later when the painting is done anyhow.

>>1766456
>white/light gray interface
>during the night
Enjoy your eye cancer

saw a gesture i really liked and decided to work on it a bit more. focusing on faces and anatomy again... probably won't finish this

>>1766562

>>1766562
I think you're good enough as an artist but there's really some weird disconnect between the bodies and faces you make.

>>1766562
drop the muscles
become popular
??
profit.

>>1766562

>>1766605
top lel

>>1766605
What are you doing?

>>1766612

what does it look like?

>>1766616
Not drawing. Draw your black dicks at least.

>>1766612
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold#Cuckoldry_as_a_fetish

>>1766605
You just HAD to use that black Israelite, my hero and based negro, you just HAD to use him didn't you? Now everytime I'll see him or hear him go Thas Rite! I'll recall this image I see before me, you've just desecrated what was once holy and filled with virtues.

The world I once knew is gone and changing, I want it back. I want off, let me off this ride LET ME OFF.

>>1766562

>>1766605
I'm telling Captain Canada on you.

>>1766644
I know. It's really quite disconcerting.

>implying a noble black israelite would stoop to fornicating with a cave woman anyway

At least with how unrealistic the concept is I can take solace.

THAS RITE

>>1766696

>>1766698
Forgot link

http://youtu.be/hBlbLgl5WDs

Best part starts at 2:40

i have lineart of mydrawing. Is there a way to quickly fill it with base color ? its so mundane to do it manualy.

>>1766704
>negro news

This makes me so happy you have no idea

>>1766736
>make new layer under lineart
>colour
>erase colour overflow
There, done.

>>1766890
sick mind, sick soul

>>1766890
uncropped please.

>>1766915
Pay the man.

>>1766943
sure, he could name his price.

>>1761673
Here's one of my latest doodles. He's a dwarf.

>>1765452
Watch movies. Read books. News. Pick particular elements you like. Type of historical character, fashion, story, study from there, have fun with what you learn, create new stories. Or the reverse way, just try to create new characters form imagination, ask yourself why they're boring, invent story and background, do research.
Stop this autopilot, I can't believe you're always drawing the same character, it's not sane.

>>1766975
This. Best advice someone could give you.

>>1765452
i got the same problem, but people just told me to stop drawing in the other thread.

>>1766988
When someone tells you to stop drawing that's when you are supposed to start drawing more.

>>1766975
that... kinda wasn't me though, i'm really grinding hard on my anatomy and just sketching her in between.

i'm drawing quite a bit of other things both at work and not, but i don't really post them here as much. pic related

>>1767068

>>1766957

is he the dorf equivalent to a pasty, skinny white nerd

>>1767079
Didn't mean to reply to that, sorry Rinfag.

>>1767082
>>1767079

>>1766013
>>1766014
did another thing

pardon the cancer

>>1767093

I will not

>>1767093
reported

>>1767104
It's against the rules to tell someone you've reported them, dingus.

>>1767112
hipocrite

>>1767118
>implying that post reported you and not just saying it's against the rules.
>cannot even spell properly

top kek, super retard spotted.

So this is some of my super new stuff. Help?

>>1767133
damn why is he/she so scrawny?

>>1767136
Bcuz noone would want his booty if he was big

>>1763927
you have an eye for character. i feel i know a lot about who this woman is from these pictures.

your necks are too long and you can't seem to ever get her left breast (viewer's left) in the right place

>>1766975
I'm the guy you replied.

I just copied the OP pic. That's why I said "got nothing in my mind to draw".

New Thread:

>>1767437
>>1767437
>>1767437

>>1763190
>Violets face