/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1761617

ur a fgt

i'm still a beginner, so please don't judge me too hard, and i still don't quite understand photoshop.

>>1761693
Looks nice, there's some issues but still.
Looks like you do need to draw with more form or structure (esp. neck). It shows in the details. Also you have subtle proportion issues (legs to upper body/limbs to torso as far as I can tell)

>>1761693
>i'm still a beginner, so please don't judge me too hard
No.
It's the beginners that need it the most. Nobody is going to skimp out on your critique, which is meant to make you better, just because your feelings might get hurt. Suck it up, learn not to get so attached to your work so that you can improve, and never take it personally or ask people to go easy on you.

>I still don't quite understand photoshop
Go to ctrlpaint, watch the videos about photoshop and painting. Work on line quality as well, being a good draftsman is important for being a good painter.

Critique.
>Design
Not a fan. For something like this you need to know about the principles of design, basic 2d/3d forms, and anatomy.

You need to know about design because it tells you how to handle color or how to balance out a design. Silhouettes are important as well, did you think about the big picture before you went on to the details? Get an idea first - Is it dangerous or friendly? Then, if you saw only the shadow or silhouette, would it come across as such? This isn't important for you right now but you should know about it at least.

A lot of this is impractical. Why are his thighs skin and nothing else? What's with the skin on his feet? If he is a cyborg, do you really think they would replace everything below the knee but save a few scraps of skin? No. If this is a suit, again, why? It's strange.

Think about looks but at the same time, you need to keep in mind practicality. Too much focus on aesthetic makes things silly or unbelievable. Too much utility is boring. There is a balance.

Reference. You need it, badly. When you have an idea of what you are going to design, you gather references of things you need and study them. If you don't know what something looks like, don't just guess or make shit up. Work with something based in reality and it will be more believable. If you want to be able to draw things from memory (or a visual library) google "the shrimp method".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvlvZIP2aY

>>1761693

He was ram sticks for a wiener

>>1761693
protip: the noob that spends 80% of his time studying and 20% of his time creating stuff, improves significantly faster, than the noob who spends 30% of his time studying and 70% of his time creating stuff.

that is just my opinion though, and has been my experience so far.

>>1761701

holy fuck that's contagious

>>1761700
Stop hiding hands. Or is he supposed to have nubs there? It's impractical so I'm assuming not. Draw every single part of the body, never leave anything out unless you have a very good reason to do so. Especially draw the things you hate, so draw lots of hands and get better at them.

Your anatomy is very off. With a subject like this it shows even more than it normally would. You should have an understanding of musculature and bone structure as well as some machinery before you do something like that. It was a good attempt but you need work.

You need work on gesture. It's so so stiff and unnatural. He's sticking his neck out and at the same time is pretty relaxed, but then he has these stiff arms. Do gestures as a warmup before you draw, and you do have to draw every part of the person to the best of your ability. That means hands too.

Anyways, you want to look into the principles of design first, they're important for things like composition but also design. Just look over them and get an understanding, you can come back and get more in depth later.
Work on your line quality first so you can put your lines where you mean to. Then you want forms and a little perspective, and values. Then gesture and anatomy, learning how to represent body parts with the simplest forms possible while still retaining the basic structure. Then more detailed anatomy for things you don't understand.

You can do this. I believe in you, which may not be immediately apparent from the rants but I do this because I want to see you, some random dude, get awesome. So fucking do it.

>>1761700
thanks, i think you're right, now that i think about it the design is really stupid, i'll come back in a few months.

>>1761708
>>You can do this. I believe in you, which may not be immediately apparent from the rants but I do this because I want to see you, some random dude, get awesome. So fucking do it.

wow thanks, i'm gonna go for it.

>>1761638

vastly superior drawthread op image is vastly superior

repost from the last thread since it didn't get any replies

Repost from the last thread since I didn't get any replies.

>>1761724
delete and start a new one

>>1761725
>/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1761726
It's difficult to critique when you're dealing with a special level that's lower than beginner

>>1761724

no realy. you are wasting your time. do a study of this, then start a creative alien portrait shot from scratch.

>>1761742

beautiful. one thing i can maybe critique is that you have a bit too darkish values in her hair, it kinda draws the eye away from the eye of the gril. which is where lc (that raging homo) wanted us to look at. your darkish contrasty hair creates a conflicting focal point. bet you can see it too.

but it's minor really, since your facial features are also a bit darker than in the original... maybe i'm just nitpicking. but i hate just posting "beautiful" without giving atleast food for thought.

there you go. i'm drunk.

>>1761724

Evening /ic/. This is a WIP thing I've been doodling on between projects to get my love of dinos and cheesecake out of my system. Critiques very welcome! (shitposting too, if you must)

>>1761761
Who the fuck pierced his nose?

>>1761755
ear placement is wrong

>>1761771
God did. This is roughly 5000 years ago, after all

>>1761771
>/ic/ in a nutshell
wouldn't help out a bloke by doing a critique on his work but will talk shit about someone who tries to help.

.

>>1761638
>>1761719
you should of made the thread then
there wasn't a bumpable one for like half a day

>>1761761
cool style but the midtones and temperature shifts feel off

>>1761784
>doing a Bargue study in 2 hrs
>missing the point harder than a retard.

>>1761755
Thanks for the actual critique and paintover. /ic/ is full of angsty teenagers these days.

>>1761791
People who spend a week or month on each one miss the fucking point completely. They originally were meant to just be copied quickly as homework overnight--this whole "hurdur must be exact down to the atom" thing is a contemporary bastardization of the 19thC french system.

Any help will be appreciated, I don't really know what I'm doing.

>>1761794
source

Ausfag here
workin on this one this morning

Trying to work at 100% opacity.

>>1761790
Thanks very much! Would you mind expanding on this critique if it's no trouble, of course. I've been trying to paint without a gray layer, so i'm still kind of hazy on this stuff.

layout skech c&c please

What, you think I'm stupid?
I'm not a part of this system
My dad's not a phone!
Duh!

>>1761798
That's SO Sassy

>>1761795
Head is too small, and the way she is holding the blade is a bit awkward. And the wheel at her helmet is mismatched because it is the only thing outlined in the piece

>>1761693
"But why would a Robot terminate itself?"
"Maybe to prove he wasn't."

>>1761811

w-waddayatakinabeet

>>1761814
Cheers m8

My first oil painting ever. I've identified lots of weak areas, and things to work on next time, but I'm curious to hear you guys' thoughts.

>>1761828
From a figure drawing session.

>>1761817
That's so sad ;_;

>>1761828
>>1761829
plein air.

with this one, the only yellow I had was a yellow ochre, and I was in warm light that fooled my eye; as soon as I brought the painting inside, the colors all seemd to get a few steps cooler

>>1761804
cool atmosphere and feeling but a lot of the brushstrokes don't mean anything (and not in a good mullins sort of way)
you put a light source on the left side of the face but nothing on the cloak
the foreground is awkward and has a poor composition

I like most of the stuff you post, but your stuff never really feels complete imo
keep it up and take it further though

>>1761800
bigger strokes
100% opacity is sort of pointless and counter-intuitive when your using such a tiny brush

>>1761835
cool rendering and your values are the right direction
you could round out the face a bit more, render out the shoulders properly and get the hands not to look so awkward with more anatomy knowledge

>>1761835
I like it. Very creepy.

>>1761835
That is unsettling in a very cool way.

>self taught just found out my chicken scratch sketching is a bad thing. this is my first time trying to draw on something other than paper i started it yesterday i'll probably finish it tommorow...be ruthless

Okay...be honest, would you do him?

>>1761869
I love dbz. Your biceps go up too high and look too thick though, tris get much bigger than bis do.

Look up Frank Zane, his phisique was perfect.

>>1761889

Get a load of this dunce. LO-(omis)-L
Anon, don't listen to this guy. He has NO understanding of basic human anatomy and structure.
Studying frank Zane will get you no where and leave you a starving artist, perpetually laughed in the face by peers, masters, family and freinds.

If you wish to discard my advice then I am not one to pine but if you have the true drive and will of the artistic soul then you will flourish. Pic related is your key to greatness. the perfect human male figure for reference

>>1761892
>implying

>>1761894

>>1760809

update, finally smoothed it out, got the eyes pretty good too. Now the only thing is, how do I add color to grayscale? I tried overlay painting, didn't turn out as good, maybe I just need to experiment more.

I do however really want to strike the pose you made, at least the upper part with the arms lol, but it failed when I tried to paint it ;( guess that means I need to practice more with reference.

Oh man, I miss this guy, even through death, he is still inspiring me to be more productive. Truly can't wait to have a drink with him again soon..

>>1761908

I think this is the sweetest gesture.

How did he pass away? He seemed so young and healthy.

>>1761617
Would like crit on the values.

>>1761938
they're flat.

>>1761938
Needs more contrast.

>>1761938
not digging all that green. put some other colour in there to give it contrast or something because right now it's just way too...green

just doing some doodling. not sure if i should even bother finishing it

>>1761938
greens not a creative color

Any Suggestions?

>>1761960
drop the signature

>>1761960
Work on blending better. Try lowering the flow of your brush.

This is my monster from another dimension.

>>1761976
looks like a sliver

>>1761979
Oh shit, i knew it looked like something else.

Well, it's modifying time

>>1761617
I don't know how to make lines smoother. I think I'm pushing the limits of paint.
Any tips.

Critiques of any kind welcome.

>>1761987
At first I thought the source pic was yours.

What the hell is wrong with your lines? Are you using a mouse?

>paint
Microsoft paint? If you don't have anything else just use pencil and paper.

>>1761987

Go download gimp.

trying to get a handle on colour at the moment, appreciate any feedback

>>1761988
I wish.
Its drawn with a mouse.
>>1761995
Will do. Hopefully the learning curve is not so bad

>>1762009
>I wish.

You'll get there m8 no worries. Just follow the other anon's advice about downloading gimp. Do you have a scanner? Or even a camera? I honestly feel like you'll have a much easier time copying it down on paper+pencil first and then colouring/correcting a scan/photo of it in gimp.

Goodluck

Postin in the new thread because old one is pretty much ded.

>>1762011
The end of her gun barrel is uncomfortably close to the edge of the frame.

>>1762011
there aren't any women in the zone, give her a beard and it will be good

>>1761889
Did a quick study of that the other day.

Was considering giving him glowing white-blue eyes and an energy aura Fist of the North Star-style.

>>1761793
>/ic/ is full of angsty teenagers these days.
>is an absolute beginner
>thinks he knows how it has been in the old days

>>1761795
dont use smudge blur

Now it's nose time.

>>1761800
its not 100% opacity

I myself always paint at "100%", which is the only way you should paint

turn off the flow control in the brush settings, it will be less muddy

if you want real challenge turn of opacity control too

>>1761804
tool overload, currently a very hard read

>>1761805
you have this, now try to blend it with the same brush

>>1761869
looks like something i drew when i was 10

>>1761877
interesting, maybe a tad too black, you can show a hint of something in the dark, but you have to be very subtle, as subtle as with these wallpapers

should push it further and render the character more

>>1761881
frontal positions always never work, its very hard to create interesting drawing in that position for a beginner

I would suggest drawing at 3/4 angle, which may sound harder in theory, its easier in practice, because you brain dislikes the symetry, symetry duulls your brain

>>1761892
8/10

>>1761925
he smoked weed

>>1761938
add highlights, dont keep everything at same saturation

>>1761960
composition, remove the strokes taht doesnt add anything to the picture

as in composition i mean its face is forced to the wall of the picture and all the detail and tonal weight are pulled to the right, its very bad

>>1761976
values, you can use dodge tool to bring out the green behind him and put some form defining highlighs on the monster

>>1761987
dont use mouse + paint.exe for painting

>>1762006
composition wont work

>>1762011
stop with the textured brushes for now, train your draughtsmanship.

>>1762020
lacks the vitality of values/color

>>1762028
>smudge blur

m8 I am too noob to even know what that means, do you mean avoiding getting the sort of effect I've circled in red? Going for more hard edges and less soft ones?

I have some Ctrl Paint videos on rendering that I'll look at later. I don't really think I can continue with this while still learning from it.

>>1762030
if it hangs on the wall, draw its shadow too

>>1762052
Oops

>>1762052
i mean smudge tool to blend your strokes

>>1762048
its neither painting nor drawing of the pistol

>>1762032
>I myself always paint at "100%", which is the only way you should paint

Can you explain this a bit more? Full opacity always engaged means it would be impossible to blend colours through the brushstroke. And it's hard as fuck blending in PS with the smudge tool.

I go with opacity set to pen pressure, and just press fairly hard for most of my strokes, and press lighter when I need to find a blended value. The other technique I've seen used is to set the brush opacity to a static opacity by between 50-90% so that you can still blend.

>>1762053
Nah it leans against the wall, I'll add drop shadows around it as the last step.
Now it'll go as: self shadows and reflexes, drop shadows, midtones and hotspots.

>>1762056
Aight, thx anon

>>1762058
i can blend at 100%, its a skill, as any other

>>1762058

you can blend very efficiently with the smudge tool once you get the hang of it and adapt/make your own brushtips with the settings you need

(use tool presets!)

you can also change your brush settings so that your brushes use pen-pressure-opacity (PPO) but you can have them cap at 60%. also with some brushes you can achieve a very nice softness by changing the settings so that as you press lower on your wacom the flow is reduced, with or without at the same time reducing opacity. this makes it possible to blend very nicely with textured brushes, even if one has minimal or no PPO enabled.

lastly theres the mixer brush which is incredibly powerful but takes a while to figure out.

>>1762062
>i can blend at 100%, its a skill, as any other

I don't understand what you mean. Do you have an example that showcases this?

>>1762027
>is mad le bed

>>1762064
>you can blend very efficiently with the smudge tool

lolno

>>1762100
Forehead's too large. Hairline should start lower. Chin looks like it blends to the neck, or head purposely drawn back.

What do you think?

i wanna get to the refining and adding stuff part but im not moving much from the thumb stage because im confused about the light.
The scene is supposed to be night time, the moon is behind the figures but i want the figures to be seen so whats lighting them up?
I may have it wrong but i dont think the figures could be illuminated if the moon is behind them and there are no artifical lightsources in front of them. But If there was no light in front/on a side they would result in almost black silohuettes no?
Should the reflected moonlight lighten them?
If the skys clean with no clouds should the moon cast strong shadows of the knights toward the viewer?
How would different figures look with no other light than strong moonlight around night time(0.00-3.00am)?

>>1762149
>Forehead's too large.
This image reminds me one of of faestock's, and the girl does have a bit larger forehead.

http://faestock.deviantart.com/art/Face-69776518

>>1762058
don't listen to people who claim dogmatically that one way is the way or the best way. it all comes down to how you enjoy painting and what gives you the kind of results that you want

crits plz

>>1762173
Reminds me of noah shitface

>>1762174
It is by Noah

>>1762173
0/10

>>1762173
Something off with him, like his left arm is saying "Ayy lmao holding hands with this dyke and lagging a little behind" BUT his body is saying "Dude i'm walking side by side with this prostitute". Maybe i'm just seeing things though.

>>1762178
its the fucking face jesus

i pity people who actually follow him

>>1762100
i colored this on a whim, fixed ear and forehead, then realized that i lost the likeness. it's self portrait, isn't it?

>>1762173
Thats what happens when you keep drawing nothing but rocks. All your 3D forms become flat as fuck and even when copying/painting over a ref you still manage to fuck up anatomy.

Just look at his duck legs, just look at them.

y'all niggas said to avoid the soft brush yet here I am finding out its the fastest thing ever for sketching shit

>>1762204
It looks disgusting. Please stop.

>>1762204
>being this retarded

>>1762204
Reason why newbies are told not to use soft brush is because you dont understand soft edge vs hard edge. Soft brush is useful when you know what to do with it and when to use it. If you dont know how to create 3D forms using soft brush will only make it worse.

Cave bro from last thread, still in sketching phase.

There's gonna be a small figure near the light source, sorta reaching for it, I'm just too lazy to indicate it right now.

Please giff feedback.

>>1762100
Edgework is terrible. You have a lot of soft edges where hard edges would work better and vice versa.

The lights under her mouth look too bright. The neck is too thick, and the ear might be a bit high considering how downward her head is angled. It looks like we're seeing her right eye (our left) from slightly above, but her left eye from a level height.

The hair is also a patchy uncontrolled mess. Look up Gurney Ribbon Technique on google, and I'd also check out Proko's two hair videos on youtube. For the values, either the darks are too dark, or the lights are too light.

>>1762154
I think the dude holding the flag looks like a smurf and could use some better colors

>>1762256
maybe he is a smurf

>>1761617
I'm doing a sketch for a oil painting on computer before drawing on the canvas itself, and i would like some advice on the anatomy/proportions since i'm not using reference

>>1762154
fixed the composition for you m8

>>1762154
fixed the comp

>>1762253
The whole thing can be more saturated and have more warm tones in the skin. You can also try to group your lights better, at the moment the values look really patchy.

>>1762020
does anyone else think this looks like an abnormally buff keanu reeves

>>1762295
Still lacks depth and overlapping but its an improvement.

Finished this the other day, was waiting for a draw thread to post it.

>>1762368
s-sully?

>>1762240

thoughts?

>>1762380
add a little bit more draven and it should look fine

>>1762393
That picture doesn't look too good.

Well, it's good but it could really be better.

Who needs faces.

>>1762393
can you guy/guys stop with this draven meme bullshit?
I played lol years ago and it wasnt funny even back then.
fucking shit tier humour tbh

>>1762398
Hitler

>>1762401
>>1762397
>>1762393
>/ic/ never change

>>1762406
;_;

someone make some random half made scene of something close to interesting then someone else can finish it and see how it comes out.

>>1762380
Fix the hands and the legs. Just work on her anatomy in general. Also clean up your line work. I get that it might be a stylistic choice but in this case it just looks sloppy.

>>1762426
HAHAHAHAHA

>>1762429
hhhehehe

>>1762429

>>1762380
You don't have any valuable details for this res. to even post at this res.

>>1762424
Or you can try to work off what I posted.

>>1762424
Having some fun with design, on vacation you may join if you like.

>>1762173
the sky looks amazing, the people's proportions are perfect. I think if you intensify the shadows and highlights in the couple they'd be as dramatic/intense as the sky.

>>1762424

>>1762450
>Being this new
>falling for this kind of bait

>>1762451

>>1762456

>>1761784
well done. bargue studies are a bitch.

behold my glory

>>1762451
>>1762456
Looks like a sloth in glasses.

getting a bit better at shading

>>1762474
could be a type of race of people

channeling jon foster

>>1762479
I am now imagining a race of sloth-people who are serene and zen as fuck. Brb, drawing that shit.

>>1762470
HAHA i love it!

>>1762466
needs more hard edges in the lower region of the hair

>>1762453
I am new :-D

>>1762453
Maybe he was the bait all along?
Or maybe you're the bait because you knew he was the bait and now I've fallen for it.
Fuck

>>1762521
Some people with high levels of concentration can progress quicker and learn faster, maybe he is new.

>>1762521
lol. don't hurt yourself.

>>1762525
she :)
and I do learn quickly.

other drawing fromt oday.

>>1762533
> that foot
Thanks, off to the store for more sides

>>1762536
what... its a foot.

This looks flat and strange, not sure how to fix it.

>>1761809
quentin?

>>1762533
Way too much contour. That foot is completely fucked up because of that. Unless someone ate it.

>>1762527
when I was 16 I could draw for 12 hours straight,
I still love to draw but just not as much, because I don't make money with my art.

>>1762553
the right arm seems to big

>>1762553
You are not loose enough, what is this color by number bullshit? Dude, I doubt you have the ability to make this from scratch, and not be able to know how to fix the problem...

>>1762553
Smoothed it out a bit, added some color for a little life.

>>1762580
The fact that it's not loose doesn't make a difference that it doesn't look right. Something with the perspective seems off.

>>1761942
>>1761943
>>1761946
>>1762042
Thanks for the help!
Sorry about the confusion on the colour, 't was just meant to be a monochrome painting. Made it greyscale now.

>>1762592
If he had the ability to draw loosely like normal artist, he/you wouldn't need to post here for a crit. fucking guaranteed.

>>1762592
Stroke up, stroke down, you'll fucking get the hang of it, also the ability to problem solve...

>>1762598
I like it OP, mouth might be a bit low, watch the darks stay a ways from 255 it messes with being able to add color having too much contrast.

>>1762598
Never mind what I said about the mouth.

H E L P
E
L
P L E H

I used to draw like 8h/day but lately i do like 2h-4h tops what is happening i want my willpower back

>>1762613
You need inspiration!

>>1762613
Onset of depression/burnout OR you're using your willpower elsewhere (work, study, beating yourself up, lack of sleep, dieting, poor nutrition, worrying, ...)

>>1762616
Or maybe he lost his virginity to some bitch and stole his will power, essentially rendering him a couch potato.

A few months old, but my newer locomotive pics aren't ready. Partly laziness, partly cause my tumblr's only gotten 2 questions since august.

My faggot monster again.

little painting

>>1762642
Nice. The seat thingy has some confusing form though, it doesn't read that clearly at first. The cast shadow also creates a tangent with the man's head.

>>1762623
I hate it.

>>1762623
You should really learn some perspective

>>1762642
The ground is lit well, the top of the chair is not lit so well, how can someone at your level miss this?

>>1762623
i think its cool, though im not sure if people who aren't into trains will be able to appreciate it since it's not particularly artistic

>>1762623
http://youtu.be/nsmjwHW40ps

>>1762649
what is local value

>>1762649
Are you dumb?

>>1762642
you're light is inconsistent but more importantly i think you could make you edges stronger and more straight. Some of you're lines are to wobbly which weakens the whole drawing.

sketch from tonite

i'm gonna fix the people being in the center

probably

>>1762788
It's quite flat

Haven't rendered as much as I should.
How am I doing?

>>1762808
Spend a little bit more time thinking about how the hands would work here. Not just the fingers but the entire hand and wrist

>>1762642
the edge control and shape design is making me really hard

do you have a site?

Book cover I'm working on. I still have to add a grave yard in the background and blend and all that business. One problem I'm having is on my Mac (give me a break I got it for $150) the colors are fantastic and rich and it looks good with the saturation layer, but when I put it on my laptop it's washed out. I understand this could just be because of my laptop. how is it on your end (inb4 it's shit) I've been told my color selection is fucking weird, so I guess any suggestions there would be cool as well.

>>1762642
catbib is that you

>>1762887
The greens reminds me alot of mints, making the hooded figure look like halloween candy. Plus that the side of the tomb stone the hood guy is leaning against is way too smooth.

>>1762896
Delicious candy! I need to put the wear and tear on it for sure. in fairness this is an actual tomb in St. Louis, the statue is oxidized copper, and the tombstone is polished marble. (although in my final pass I want to rough it up a bit. ) Thanks!

I always draw better at night.
>>1762845
Love your stuff. Got a place where you regularly post?

quick late-night girl from imagination (fantasy lol), and rap music. rhymes by kanye west.

[...]The good life.
Have you ever popped champagne on a plane
While getting' some brain
Whipped it out, she said "I never seen snakes on a plane"

>>1762279
The shoulders seem slightly wide

What can I do differently?

>>1762937
draw bigger
draw the body or at least the upper body
try shading the face to give an impression on the form (puffy cheeks, pointy nose, soft lips etc)
draw the same thing but from another angle
try to draw from imagination (assuming this is from reference)
draw from real life

>>1762937
Use guide-lines for everything. If you use any of the How to Draw Manga books, the guides for eyes, ears, the nose and mouth, the scalp and the hairline are there to help you not need them over time, not toss them out from the very start and end up with unintentionally messed up glasses and eyes.

Also, draw the head without the hair first.
Now, fill this page with many busts of this character. The white of the page is there for just that.

>>1762887
The bird looks too short, there's no room for its feet. The tail is also fucked up. Look at some ref.

>>1762922
YOU BROKE HER ANKLE

>>1762949
>>1762945
Okay, thank you so much! I've never really been good and hearing that makes me want to try harder

>>1762960
dangit

Leyendecker master study WIP

need crits

will finish tomorrow when i wake up

>>1762610
>>1762611
Nah, something's off about the mouth, just not sure what exactly...
Good point on the black.

>>1762482
>>1762482
>>1762482
finally unbanned
>>1762482
>>1762482
wanted to redline but ended up //speedster painting///

>>1762984
is the hair really that light?
add detail strands in limited areas

>>1762984

i gave you one yesterday you piece of shit you didn't even bother replying. fuck you and everyone you love with a rusty pitchfork up the asshole you fag

>>1762645
thanks, yeah i agree on those points
>>1762649
it's meant to be curved inward a bit, but i think it doesn't read very well
>>1762776
thanks for the input
>>1762845
thanks, my tumblr is catbib
>>1762892
yeah its me

>>1762807
like ur mom's chest

>>1763170

you've gotten a whole fucking lot better. i always thought you could only do pretty girls.

>>1763170
>thanks, my tumblr is catbib
that's what I figured, but you haven't updated your sites in eons
you are getting so good it's really inspiring
>>1762907
not really, just this: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/268855-skoobhcteks

>>1762986
I actually think I painted the hair darker than the source.

>>1763118
I haven't posted on /ic/ for at least a year.

>>1763027
I actually think I painted the hair darker than the source.

>>1763118
You didn't, actually, because this is the first time I've posted this study.

>>1761953
Thanks for that, I needed a laugh

illustration for boardgame project
just started sketching


>>1762642
amazing

Still have a bit to go but I think it's not going too bad

>>1763369
Feels very flat. You can push the depth more too by making the foreground cow bigger (also to stop him from taking up the same visual space as the other cow). Maybe get some plants in there too, and throw in some clouds or bg hills. Just add some more interest and depth cues.

>>1763386
Pretty sure those cows are dying of hunger, plants around them would make no sense at all.

>>1763384
that face

>>1763387
use cow poop.

>>1763384
>>1763388
If you're curious OP, it's mostly the size of that mouth. A lot of your plane changes and edges need softening, and some issues with the eye sockets as well. I don't know your exact ref, but I suspect the eyebrows shouldn't be that hard to spot.

>>1763384
Not bad anon. Try to control your values and shapes a bit more though. Yopu have some sloppy shapes in there and the values can be simplified more. You have some areas like the shadow area of her dress with too many values there, and the face is patchy with lots of little value jumps. Try to treat it more in flat simple large masses of value. Also watch out sometimes you can go a bit darker in shadow on some things like the hair.

>>1763394

Thank you, friend!

>>1763399

Thank you, too!

>>1762943
nice to see you drop your trip. Shoulder and torso look weird, but I can't really tell why

>>1763387
Okay whatever, make them cacti or rocks instead. Doesn't change the crit.

>>1763023
Channeling retard painting, all system nominal

Anyone has advice or maybe a link on how to handle edges?

Chanelling my inner Nineties.

>>1762984
master study my ass, looks like you blended the actual photo and called it your own.

>>1763423
I'm glad my construction is accurate enough for you to think that!

>>1763420
ctrlpaint has good stuff on hard + soft edges. you know you need to pay attention when he mentions "temp layers"

>>1763369
yea man do more thumbnails, this is far from going to the next step.

>>1762984
The neck is very yellow, and why does the thumbnail have weird artifacts outlining the painting?

>>1762984
artifacts outlining her hair and that whip thing.

>>1762642
If the top of the chair is curving in toward you, the top edge would be lit? And the birds also a little?

>>1763423
Here's a previous step if that's something you'd be interested in seeing.

>>1763441
Yeah, I noticed the ref's neck had quite a bit of yellow in it, but I guess I went too far.

Not sure what artifacting you're talking about, but I mean it's a thumbnail, so not sure why it matters.

>>1763420
i am >>1763428
just posting faster than i can formulate sentences

i like your values and the value range very much
but
your painting looks messy - simplify and flatten areas
keep details and high-contrast hard edges to areas of interest (monsters face, hands, mans head, gun etc)
you can leave lots of edges between dark areas very soft
willingly use hard versus soft edges to communicate form better (pic related, an exercise i did for that)
btw, this temp layers thing on ctrlpaint is very useful but youll be on the best way if you could achieve that with effective brushwork (goes along with simplifying values with effective brushwork)

SHOTS FIRED AT YOU OTHER PAINTERS

>>1763457
>parrot
kek
improving your drawing skills will benefit your paintings

>>1762642
made some changes, I think you had trouble with the perspective and shape of the top of the chair and was messing with your idea of light, Idk if I did any better but maybe you'll like it.

>>1763504
You definitely made it worse.

>>1763448
Noted, thanks anon!

>>1762642
added some bloom or whatever you call it, really brings life or something good to the painting but that is just my style.

>>1763508
Maybe because it's the only part of the painting that is smooth, yea I didn't spend time to make it look like the rest of the painting lol man

>>1763508
You didn't do a paint over, lets see you do better, so you can go live in the fuckin garbage.

>>1763529
Some of the pots on the right are blown out, but hte reflected light o nthe main chair helps. I'd put more ambient light in the giant pots in that dark mass at the back, you can barely see it at all (probably a lot of screens can't see it).

>>1763533
sorry, man. i forgot i was on tumblr-lite

>>1762398
Hot!

been done a million times but not with chameleons

dunno if it belongs here or in stylisation thread but whatever, I'm posting the sketches I did from imagination this evening.
What do you think guys ? obvious flaw are the chicken scratch on some places, but other than that ?

>>1763529
>>1763504

both vulgar. but i'm not gonna hate for you trying. messing around with an image some steps above ones own skill level can be very educational

>>1763613
Lets see you make something less vulgar, my good man, please enlighten, educate us.

>>1763613
your name shitposting 24/7
sounds pretty vulgar to me, you don't belong here.

>>1763457
YOU BEST CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU GET CUT MOTHER FUCKER.

But seriously, I'm chalking it up to experience and moving on, not terribly happy with it.

giff crit pls

>>1763669
The waterfall immediately takes my eyes to the black at the bottom of the image. I didn't even see the figure the first couple of times. I love your brush strokes though

>>1763675
maybe darken the bottom waterfall and brighten the figure?

>>1763677
Maybe try adding some clothing to figure with contrasting colors to the background to make him pop more

>>1763680
No, he has to be naked. He's kinda like a caveman essentially. Primeval human, etc.

>>1763680
Maybe if I moved the figure to the bottom?

>>1763681
Okay how about adding some paintings or symbols on the wall near the light that fit with the caveman theme. Or you could make some type of mystical symbols. Do what you want, just add some points of interst to draw the eye there.
>>1763686
That might work, but I get the feeling that then the figure and the light might end up fighting for our attention. Couldn't hurt to try

>>1763667
Looks good from a mile away

>>1763696
Story of my life.

>>1763689
Sorry if I'm being a bit unreasonable, but I'd like to keep it a bit more...abstract if that makes any sense? When I said caveman, I meant that as the only thing I could compare it to. The dude in the picture is essentially just the first human ever.

Anyways, I got rid of the stalagmite, darkened him up a bit, and added this effect to the light/flame.

Working, not working?

>>1763701
Yeah it's working now. My eye zips right up there.

>>1763705
That's good. Any other suggestions you can add? I really appreciate the feedback!

>>1763708
No problem. Nothing I can think of right now. It's looking really good! Makes me think of covers of paper back scifi novels I used to read.

>>1763721
I'm gonna try placing the figure down at the bottom just to see, but other than that I feel I'm nearing being done.

Anyways thanks for taking your time to crit!

>>1763701
is this reflection right? not that it really takes away from the picture.

>>1763726
It probably isn't lol, I'm kinda just going around the picture and going "does this look like fucking shit?" and I haven't really done much to the bottom yet.

How is it so far?

>>1763735
apart for her missing hip. Fixing that right now. What about other anatomy failures?

>>1763735
Looks like the canvas should be expanded to the right and the viewers given context as to what she's sneaking up on.

Thoughts?

>>1763741
I feared that. Might do it, but I'll fuck up.

>>1763722
>>1763721
Here's the result.

better/worse?

>>1763745
Worse. How about something in the middle like pic related?

I've been considering making a series of plant and animal hybrids (this was the first sketch, added some watercolor and paint), but I'd like to know what you guys think. Persue it? Any artists that you reccomend I reference/get inspiration from? I'm going for pop surrealism.

>>1763748
Like this?

Better/worse?

>>1761617

>>1763767
The figure is not casting a shadow.

>>1764085
One thing at a time.

>>1763849
that's cool

>>1761791
>>1761784
>>1761794


Why is this? I have seen some people taking up to 80 hours on a value study.

How can that shit be beneficial?

I get that it is a "look how precise I am" kind of thing, but that's just ridiculous.

Also, what is the point?

My first time using oils since...2010 or so. Still majorly WIP, though I've not touched it in weeks.

>>1765032
Point for one is being able to reproduce what is in front of you. The Bargue plates start out with "simple" forms and values and build up. When you draw from nature you will need to reproduce what is in front of you and be able to perceive the values in front of you, which is harder since the world is not in greyscale.
Also builds taste for classical art.

>>1765081
Why is there a human cat lady riding on the side of tank? If you hadn't been vaccinated, and consumed so many preservatives, and growth hormones, maybe this painting would have more aesthetic merit.

>>1765093
So you're anti-vaccination?

>>1765290
It's not natural to inject anything in to your body. Eating healthy and getting enough vitamins a healthy person should acquire and you won't get sick. I haven't been sick since I was little, that was 10 years ago.

>>1765290
You must be atheist.

>>1765290
You must be anti-god, have you looked under your skin much? how complicated a machine you really are, how can you not...

>>1761617
Here's hoping that I'm on the right track.

>>1765390
upper lip has intense red shadow, but lower lip has no red