/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1760706
>buying software

Really though, just torrent everything and try them all.
Manga studios is better though.

>>1760710
>2014

My sides.

But seriously OP, its pretty much the same as SAI, but with a couple of better things like a tool to type text and better layer referencing.

9/10 would torrent again.

>>1761233
i'd say it's quite a bit better than sai.
i also like the UI a lot

>>1761233
>>1761237

How is it better exactly? Does it have ie. tools for linework as good as SAI or, hopefully, even better?

>>1760706

Manga studio is god-tier.
I actually enjoy painting because of it. I still keep PS for work and finishing touches though. Too bad manga studio it'll never become mainstream.

>>1761266
Those guys are pretty greedy faggots. Manga Studio 4 didn't have an eyedrop tool unless you bought the EX version. So they can suck it.
Manga Studio 5 is much better though, but again features were left out of the regular version that Manga Studio 4 had standard.

>>1761270
Greedy if you're actually paying for it...

>>1761275
Yeah, I'm thinking of the people. The paying public is the one that decides what stops being mainstream.

>>1761270
ms5 is a completely different program and is just marketed as part of the ms series. the original name of the program is "clip studio paint"

MS4 wasn't really worth talking about, but ms5 is fantastic

whats the difference between ex version?
comparison page doesnst lok like much to justify extra 150

>>1761266
Welp I guess I have to get this shit then. I like drawing in SAI, but hate PS altogether for stuff other than photo editing, and I'm forced to use it for work becaue SAI has shit painting capabilities.

>>1761324
Why do you hate PS?

>>1761351
Laggy brush engine, no color blending, fucking annoying stroke overlapping*, shitty smudge tool.

*dont tell me "use full opacity" or "blend it later" scrubs. I know and I do it, regardless its annoying, in ie. Painter two strokes just blend together naturally and you dont have to waste time fixing this shit 24/7

>>1760710
>>1760718
>>1761233
This is why the software industry is fucked up. I hope you niggers are caught and ass-raped with fines one day.

>>1761377
buttmad software programmer detected

no one cares yooooooooo, time to pirate em all

>>1761377
>Imblying yuou a neber birated nothings. :D
:D:D

>>1761377
It's fucked up?

>>1761317
The EX version has more editing tools for book/comic creation. Like a very basic Adobe InDesign.

>>1761360
Yeah, I fucking hate painting in PS too. Manga Studio has a dedicated blend brush or you can blend with the brush you're using just like traditional painting.

>>1760706
They all cost the same to me

hue hue hue hue hue

If something called "Manga Studio" is getting such high praise from /ic/ of all places, it must be good.

>>1761429
it's just a name that was given when it was localized.

the original name of that software is "CLIP Paint Studio"

>>1761420

>>1761437
lol made me laugh. best reply

>>1761324
Samefag here, so far I really like Manga Studio. Its like Photoshop made by people that dont poop on digital painters and actually add useful shit while keeping the overall interface. Have yet to figure out if/how to make your own brushes to take advantage of my PS brushes, thats like the only thing I miss right now.

>>1760706
I never used Paint Tool SAI but I can tell you MS is awesome.

BTW Manga Studio is only available to purchase as a physical disc.

Buy Clip Studio Paint instead. It's exactly the same program (with very minor differences) but it's available for digital download.

Opinions on opencanvas?

>>1761500
I don't see why you wouldn't want the disc.

>>1761500

I downloaded Manga studio 5 digitally and it works fine

>The creator of Manga Studio, Celsys, has discontinued the digital download version of Manga Studio 5 and Manga Studio 5 EX, and are only making the physical shipment versions available. In compliance with this, Smith Micro is no longer selling the digital download versions of these programs.


>2014
>buy programs on cds

>>1761629
it's a licence thing, they can't do anything about it.
smith micro is only a localization company anyway.

>>1761507
Was good in its day, still light on resources. Has nothing on MS or SAI though.

>>1761518
The disc is fine to have but you cannot download it digitally. This means if you ever lose the disc or it's destroyed you must then purchase another copy. Also after purchasing you must pay shipping and wait for it to arrive at your doorstep.

On the other hand Clip Studio Paint is only offered as a digital download. You can redownload it as many times as you would like and you can also start using the program immediately after purchase.

>>1761518
Because I dont want to

a) pay for the shipping to my shithole country
b) wait months for the disc to arrive while I could have it in 2 mins

I'd probably just buy it, tell them to fuck off with the disc and just download it.

>>1761629
>Work on MacBook Pro retina model
>No optical media drive

Welp, looks like I'm stuck with Photoshop.

>>1761711
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>>1761500

While we're on the topic of software, what do you think about ArtRage? I'm using it now as an amateur, but I want to know what more advanced people think about it.

>>1761723
Have they added customizable hotkeys to that POS finally? If not then its still unusable for me, cant evaluate it further until its fixed.

>>1761241
see pic
there's so much optimization on the tools and on the UI it's almost ridiculous.

>>1761629
see >>1761500

>>1761818
>Painter has a lot of customization, it sucks
>Manga Studio 5 has a lot of customization, I'm gonna suck its dick

>>1761824
Wow. Painter fags are in so much denial they get defensive even when no one even mentions the darn thing.

>>1761831
Non painter fags are in so much denial they don't know good software when they see/use it.

>>1761852
>painter

>>1761855
Yea? What should I be using instead, then?

>>1761882
y don't yuo ask you're mom nerd? XD

>>1761886
Oh right, I forgot where I was for a second.

>>1761886
#erekt

>>1761855
>>1761886
>>1761888
Keep your shitty >we r legion epic meme XD
in other boards

>>1761882
I decent program.

painter sucks and I been using them for long, shit crash and bug like 75% of the time.

yall guys dunno shit

op just torrent every single software that was mentioned on the internet ever
try it
chose

>>1761377
You know shit about software industry, so better stfu.

>>1761244

I've been finding Krita to slowly climb up higher in the hierarchy right next to Manga Studio. It still has a shit ton of bugs that interferes with my workflow though.

Once it fleshes out more I think it'll be my go-to

>>1762181
care to enlighten, how the software infustry works

>>1761522
Smith Micro lost the license to sell digital versions back in 2013 or so. But according to their site they got that turned around recently.
>"Digital download versions of Manga Studio 5 and 5 EX are back!"

>>1761507
Right now it's similar to SAI in terms of functionality, but not nearly as extensive as Manga/Clip Studio.
However, they'll be releasing v6 within the next months, which will have an upgraded brush engine with a lot of new brush parameters. May be worth looking out for if you like a simpler program for the purpose of doodling/playbacks.

>try out every painting/drawing program that I know of
>every single one "feels"weird
>go back to good ol' photoshop

I might have autism.

Is the latest version of Clip Studio any better than Manga Studio?

>>1764958
Yep, since clip is released by the creators MS always goes a few minor versions behind.