/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

work in progress, what do you think guys?

>>1756334
i think it needs more draven

>>1756334
Not bad. The right side is really confusing at the moment.

The left side needs some perspective fixes and better edgework.

The lighting can be clarified a bit more and made more consistent, and then some more of the light shown in the reflections.

The water looks like a cheap filter, I hope it is just there as a base to paint over.

I didn't get any input on this last time I posted it. I'm still lining it. The legs are bothering me. Any suggestions on the legs or anything else that could be improved on is much appreciated.

>>1756386
take the pose yourself and feel it bother you, and then you will have your leg problem solved

>>1756386
needs more moe moe and needs to look like plastic

I bought that really over priced edition of Killzone 2 when it came out... decided to put it to good use. It was interesting because it's mainly grey and has a lot of planes.

>>1756434
It looks pretty good. I think that some slightly darker shading in some of the creases can help to make it contrast well. Also work a bit more on the lenses to make them shine more.

Never Posted in the art thread before but don't have anyone else for feedback - just barely started shading it but i'm not sure if there's anything else I need to do before I continue
Oh also, yeah, its a self portrait, for a comic book style collab with a few friends of mine.

>>1756451
What kind of shading? Cel or rendered?

>>1756334
Good job on the colors, keep working along adding details to the right side and maybe add some more contrast to the overall painting. Needs something in the forground & distant background to give it some more depth I think

>>1756454
Gradient Cell shading, basaically I select a region I would do a highlight or shade in with cell shading and do a gradient over it, like the attached image results. (I didn't draw the attached image, Its colors by an artist named K. Michael Russel on youtube that I like)

>>1756434
I think you need to work on a bit of color theory and balancing in this, while the colors are accurate, they're not interesting, its like the helmet is being lit with perfectly white light, - I'd also try working on a 45% Grey background to help you see how much contrast you need - its pretty flat overall. You're getting there though, don't give up! Look up some similar art online for lighting inspiration

>>1756447
>>1756459
Thanks chums! I think a major problem I had was I started this during the day and finished about half of it, then went to work and started again at night.
Problem was the lighting completely changed and I didn't really have a record of where the lights where when I started. Pretty noob mistake but I'm gonna buy a lamp so I can light stuff as I wish.

>>1756300

>>1756467
This is okay, I think you're trying too hard to make it look realistic, without going all the way with it. It looks like you have correct proportions, but the lack of Value and Light/Dark makes it flat and kinda boring. Its like an image in a coloring book. IMO, Finish it out.

Started like a week ago

>>1756472
Long Story Short, Watch this video and do about 100 more pages of those. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nTEgET9DA

>>1756472
If I wasn't clear, the big problem is your proportions are way off. Keep practicing, you'll get there.

>>1756475
Yes, porportion. That's my main focus right now, thanks!

>>1756479
I hate to say it, but its sort of a shitty grind until you get to a point where it just looks wrong. The biggest tip I got when practicing this is Don't be afraid to just erase a whole limb or head or torso or half the whole thing and re-draw it to get the proportions right. If it looks wrong, fix it. And you should be able to step back and see if it doesn't look like its supposed to.

>>1756482
*until you get to a point where you can tell if it just looks wrong. (typo sorry)

alright, ok! I'm gonna start painting again, this time for real, gonna learn stuff!

Fresh off the rack, I could use opinions here people.

For some reason my phone always posts images In wonky ways lets try this.

>>1756486
Looks to me like you're trying to hard to outline the facial features, rather than using light and shadow to create the forms. I can tell you know what you're doing, just get out of the habit of outlining all the facial features, especially the nose. I doubt this guy actually has such a bulbous nose that is has a shadow behind the front bulb. Look into some facial anatomy too, understanding why there are certain shapes in certain places might help you some. Another tip to remember is that every crease on on the human body is the result of two masses bumping into eachother. Humans are Naturally concave in very few places.

>>1756492
1. Perspective. whenever you draw machinery, even if its round, you need perspective lines and a horizon. If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch this video:
2. Consistency - You have a lot of interesting shapes going on, but its different in every area, there is not one feature that is repeated in any other limb/part of the machine. Its got large round bolts on the front, but nowhere else. Gotta stay consistent.
3. Purpose - The BIGGEST crime in designing tech is adding random crap that serves no purpose. What do those big claw things coming out the top do? how do they work? what are those vents on the bottom for? the solution? REFERENCE. for every piece of tech you design, promise yourself to lookup 30 reference pictures of REAL machinery to take aspects of, and your work will imporove infinitely.
4. Clarity - once you have parts with specific functions, you need to make those functions very clear - what does this thing do? Tech is usually designed to do One thing Really really well, and that results in being able to tell what that device does relatively quickly. I can't tell what the purpose of your Robot is. I can't tell if its a submarine or a spaceship or an airship, is it piloted or autonomous? also, doodle a little person off to the side for scale - even if its just a stickman, its what you gotta do.

>>1756501
Forgot to link video from Step one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNodVeFq7Q

Working on my first real digital painting and I don't really know where to go after this step.

well since the gesture threads down; I was practicing some more; I'm still pretty bad at them but drawing more to the figure than the outline.

>>1756510

Your composition makes you seem kind of like a pederast

>>1756512

What you were tying to accomplish with this I do not know. Perhaps if you were to turn them all into ninjas?

>>1756519
gesture guy, all of my drawings are stiff and my poses are...well wrong; the ninjas thing made me laugh. What do you try and accomplish when gesture drawing?

playing around with zbrush and I cant get past this point, help plz :c

>>1756520

Gesture drawing? I only draw for fun and for money.

>>1756519
What's wrong with the composition?

>>1756523

work from low geometry to high geometry when the sculpt requires more detail

what is that, the rake brush? stick to standard/damien standard and clay/clay buildup

>>1756525
I'm so confused as yo why you even posted.

>>1756523
wrong board
>>>/3/

>>1756526
it doesnt have enough draven

Via markers

>>1756512

Bad. Stop drawing outlines. Focus on conveying the same pose with the least amount of detail

>>1756558
>i play video games
Loomis is not proud

>>1756599
are we talking stick figures at this point?
lines inplace of bone?

Crop~
Trying to get my values grouped
I think I got the whole roman statue look down something is wrong with the face I'm pretty sure it's proportions atm and the cheek width.


The best part about all this is I get to paint a roman dudes dick Woop WOOOOOOOOOOP

>>1756558
everything can use a little more DRRRRAVVVVVEENNNNN

>>1756510
watch some streams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>>1756633
>rendering when the drawing is fucked
don't be that guy.
there are all sorts of bad tangents too. plan your composition before defining anything
your edges are getting a little better though

niggas help me fix body pose b4 lineart or paint

thx (:

>>1755952
this is sick.

>>1756633
Looks as if you reffed the shit out of a face and pasted it into a not so interesting composition. Bird feels the same. Maybe work with the whole picture all together before getting into details?

Mood of today.

>>1756663
Did you take the hair from a photo then colorpicked some real meaty skintones?

>>1756666

Its from imagination. Didnt look at any photos between blank canvas and finishing it. Yeah, I tend to make skin meaty.

>>1756637

>>1756671
Yeah I figured it was from imagination, you're in no risk of being called a tracer.

Whatever brush you use for hair makes it look as a low quality photo and the skintones all look like you picked them from the most red part of the skin.

I am all sincere when I say start with the basics. Shade a sphere. Your face doesn't have basic shapes, just darker brushstrokes where the shadows "might be".

>>1756679

Okay. Thanks for the tip.

>>1756674

Still tryna l2paint
any advice will be appreciated.

Trained my inking a bit yesterday.
I don't think it's good, and I'm looking forward to receive my copy of Framed Ink.
What do you guys think though ?

>>1756711
I think maybe the armor should reflect more, maybe get a reference ?
And the square brush you used for her hair makes it look odd, does'nt match the tye of hair she has on her ponytail

Question thread is dead I think. I'll ask here. Guys I finally leveled up! I can draw. Of course there always room for improvament, I'll keep working hard. But my problem is, since I improved, I don't feel motivated to draw 8 hours everyday like I used to. How force myself to draw again?

>>1756731
Don't ?
Look at pictures you like, have your workplace already set up and nearby, shut off the Internet/Your computer.
You'll feel like drawing at some point

>>1756711
gotta push values and add more contrast since the focal point is everywhere

>>1756729
Nice man, framed ink is good

Is there such a thing a gesture portraits? I tried to do this as quick as possible and FEEL IT

>>1756755
Yes, check out fashion illustratos like Rene Gruau


Loose does not mean incorrect anon. When you draw in the simplest manner you must tripple check your drawing before proceeding.

Also loose =/= fast The loosest painters usually paint very slowly, thinking that they do it in a spur of the moment is kidding yourself.

>>1756758
much like a vagina. just because a vagina is loose doesnt mean it fucks fast actually as a matter of fact when i fuck a loose vagina it takes me awhile to cum and when i fuck tight pussy i cum SUPER FAST. so keep it loose and take your time because loose pussies usually take longer to make a cock cum

>>1756763

I want critics before painting, please, inspired on ref but tried to draw from imagination, then droped the ref and went on my own, now I'm stucked ftl

review pls

>>1756763

Awww shit wasn't paying attention this morning and went and posted these into the dead thread.

>>1756774
Women aren't strong enough to put that much weight on their fingertips. The weight distribution in general looks wrong.

>>1756774
Nice sense of volume but the lower leg is way too short. The feet and hand also don't look anchored to the ground and think more about how the figure is balanced because it looks like she might tip over.

>>1756763
Tight pussies legit hurt

The jews took my foreskin

There can be only one final solution

>>1756887
>the jews took my foreskin

You too? Fuck man, I'm impotent probably in part because my crippled cock derives no pleasure from sex at all. All I wanted was a qt gf...

Anything about this sketch that can be improved before I start with the painting?
I feel the arm is a bit flat but I'm not sure how to go about giving it depth.

>>1756914
dont chicken scratch. Make a clear line.

>>1756916
who let the parrots out?!

>>1756927
jews

what do you guys think?

>>1756932
show feet, show hands, and get some reference for detail, you clearly need it.

>>1756939
thank you

Can anyone give me some pointers? I literally have no idea how to work in digital mediums.

>>1756300
am I doing this correctly? I need to practice figures interacting.

thx to the anons who gave some crits in last draw thread

>>1756916
Even when sketching? I guess it's good practice, but I never thought about it being important for the part that won't be seen in the finished product.

Far as the arm goes though, do you think it's positioned well? Anything about it look off?

>>1756914
>>1756963

Restating your lines a bunch of times is almost as bad as chicken scratching. The more thought you put behind each stroke the better you'll get gradually when quicksketching. Instead of donig the stroke multiple times just do the motion multiple times and when you feel you have it right drop the line.

>>1756953
hope I'm doing fine.

>>1757022
better

>>1757022
As simply a value study, you're on the right track just push the values a little more and tone down that highlights because it's reading pretty flat, but as for the figures:
You're straightening things out.
You made the figure on the left's shoulder almost perfectly horizontal.
And the line going down her back almost completely vertical when it curves right.
Check the triangle formed by negative space on her arm too, it's too big.

I posted a really shit version of this a while back, but right now I'm concerned about the character's faces... Looking at them now they're a little off, kinda lifeless.

>>1757058
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>1757034
Perspective is a bit wonky on the chick. According to her head and upper body, the horizon line is on her eyes. But that can't be true based on what you have in the background.

Also, I know the lightsource is supposed to be strong but I think some midtones on the creatures face will work wonders. Having it that bright makes it THE focal point and it's conflicting with the rest of the composition like the girl. I don't know which to look at.

>>1757062
You're new is showing.

>>1757066
he apparently hasn't been to /d/ yeah... guys are into that sort of thing there.

>>1757058

>>1757067
No, you're thinking of /lgbtbbq/ /d/ is not gay they just have a love for girl cocks.

>>1757071
Futa with balls is gay. Don't lie to yourself.

>>1757066
I've been here for so long I'm literally getting older in this place.
I know /d/ even if I don't go there that often ((I'm still not that crazy)) but fuck that, 2 horse penises?
Why?
Just.. Why 2? Why Horse?!
Futa is kinda ok I guess but double-giant-horse-penises is definetly noope

>>1757022
>>1757024
>>1757026
Thanks for your crit.

maybe if i post this on here it'll make me want to continue on it

Working on design

>>1756774
When the back and torso are bent like this keep in mind how this will impact the shoulderblades.. In a way they should be concave. That said, it is not realistic for the arm to be so taut. The arm and shoulder would be draped towards the front most likely. Sit down like this and observe how all your weight will be held on the heels/feet/balance. If you want the arm to be supporting her weight, the entire torso and shoulders will need to be modified to "lean back" further.

I would suggest at this point to find a reference. Fix the feet first and completely remove her arm. When you have established more gravity in the figure - then I would suggest adding the arm. Finally, keep perspective and general proportions in mind. As the arm will be draped and not laying directly Parallel to the torso, it may appear shorter. This same strain of thought explains why the girls feet and legs look awkward: the wrong angles are being used for each shape of the body. I hope this helps and good luck friend.

how'd I do?

Background to be ignored. It started off as a different doodle that became more interesting to me and changed into something different.

>>1757083
i really like the thumb.
pls finish it. maybe add some more objects in the background and make them really small for more difference in scale (something that redirects the viewers eyes to the soldier/hunter would be a good idea imo)

>>1757098
stretch the lower body (lower torso and legs) out a bit, they look really small and goofy imo

>>1757105

It's supposed to have dwarfish proportions, but I'm unsure if that includes goofiness. I'll try stretching it out

>>1757116
i think the thing that bugs me is that his torso is leaning forward, while the legs are way in front of him/ his spine. especially his right leg looks off.

>>1757118
they kinda have a bit of sausage thing going on. I have similar problems, also, you didn't include fingernails. So why did you bring this to lighting/rendering? The middle finger looks like it has a welt or something rather than a knuckle, take a picture of your hand in that pose if you need to.

>>1756300 Not much for coloring.... kinda weak.

>>1757135
Cool.

are some of these good ?

>>1757140
Starting to remind me of pic related animation.

>>1756358
I like you person what keeps posting Draven.
Please stick around.

Inb4 Samefag.

>>1757135
>>1757153
only people who have a clue how to draw in this thread lol
I like the 3rd and 4th one m8

>>1757097
no. Post more

>>1757083
I wanted to see what the water might look like when i'm done

So I have this tablet and I've just gotten into using Photoshop at the start of the Summer. I sketched this up with the focus explicitly on trying to render *something*. I can see there's some fucked things on the fundamental level, and if you want to point it out that's cool, but I'm more curious about how the blending and refining(sort of) turned out. I used just a regular brush with a round tip to put down the color and used the mixer brush to actually...well, mix them.

So...is this the right thing? Is the mixer brush okay to use? Or is this the wrong direction?

So far I've just figured that "it's good here and there," the usual "if it works, go ahead." I'm just not certain about what all the tools are that I should be using to render, and more importantly to me, refine a piece. I'd hate to find out that what I'm doing is essentially no better than using the smudge or blur tool after doing it for far too long.

>TL;DR: The mixer brush feels like it's too easy
>to clean things up, is this the way it should
>be, or is there a wider variety of tools I should
>be using to smooth out my details?

Also, sorry if this isn't where I should be posting. I just figured I'd ask a question while I was posting this.

>>1757209
you're over thinking it
it's more about fundamentals
look at dave rapozas work - a lot of his highly rendered stuff is done entirely with a soft brush

This is only my 3rd serious attempt at making a digital painting.

Dude..this shit is NOT easy. :(

>>1757240
cool, you must have a solid trad background, or a long nose

>>1757241
been drawing since a little kid. went to school of visual arts for illustration. I just cant wrap my head around how these guys digital paint like they do.

>>1757244
little bit of crack helps

>>1757231
What my intent has been and currently remains is too explore what's in my toolkit using photoshop. I can wrap my head around rendering exclusively with brushes. What I'm wondering about is(and I should have worded this better; I apologize for that) whether or not the mixer brush, in that particular sketch, is being largely misused. Similar to the whole "using the blur tool to blend" issue, I'm curious about if the tool I'm using, and more importantly what I'm using it for, is misguided.

Started doing the Bargue's plaques with a .5 mechanical pencil.

>>1757257
I like it, got anymore, or what reference you use??

>>1757257

Can u share such plaques please?

>>1756914
why the fuck would you sketch on a white background with a high illuminated saturated color
THIS SHIT HURTS MY EYES

>>1757251
>whether or not the mixer brush, in that particular sketch, is being largely misused.
I wouldn't be a position to say it's being misused, but it's defiantly not helping it. All it's doing is smudging around your poor values.

>>1757259
>>1757265

Here.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5049771/drawing/Charles%20Bargue%20And%20Jean%20Leon%20Gerome%20Drawing%20Course.pdf

It's an extremely straight forward course (it is basically a set of images) but try to read the practical matters section at least. It has some nice tips for construction and rendering.

Btw, I tried to use Pixlr express app to give it a scanned look

Have some Homestuck

I'll be honest I thought I was going pretty good... then I zoomed in.

>>1757153
I like the first one, it has interesting proportions - tiny head, chicken legs, bulbous upper body.
The rest are average, the last one is the worst. Just because she's a lass, doesn't mean you can't play around with her form more.

does anyone have a working link to the mullins pdf?

>>1757281
god you're such an egotistical cunt.

>>1756763

>>1757268
I usually make a base sketch in cyan.
Force of habit I guess. I think I find it easier to build when the lines don't look so permanent. Like there's some malleability and I can just sort of sculpt it up. Then I layer on the paint.

Please critiques.

>>1757343
Not sure how am I suppose to feel

>>1757343

he's doing push-ups, that grey is him exhaling after finishing.

probably interpreted that wrong, but its very nice.

>>1757347
K.

Trying to move up with the figure drawing - not sure how it went. I know I need to work harder on drapery, and if anyone else has anything they can add, please let me know.

Thanks

this is fucking annoying, i hate my design.

>>1757295

>>1757343
hmm...

>>1757355
You dont like it?

It's 3am and I'm calling this finished.

>>1757358
>pets anon's back

your future holds throwing up on a canvas and calling it art

>>1757206
i like the feels it gives me, don't know why. saved it, good work

>>1757058

If noone has told you yet, this is mega shithouse bad. Your lack of anatomical knowledge is only preceded by your horrendous facial construction.

Face/skull studies first, anatomy next, and you can draw your damn horse dicks later.

I'm planning to redo this 1 year old drawing digitally. Any additional points of interest I could add?

I'd appreciate some critique on this, I'm still working on the shirt and adding some light to the hair

I bought pencils to make such amaze art
this is the first such amaze
the amazest

Do you like the colors?
I think I got the colors right

It's artsy, but art is such amaze

>>1757402
I like such trippiness. Maybe something under the boat, like a tentacle reaching by behind, so that it looks like a vicious entity in a dangerous universe, not just a weird ugly thing. Maybe it could be the tongue, a forked evil tongue, and with more stuff below to show the boat is actually on the saliva of the mouth, so the entity's face is complete, and the face is the landscape. It's nice concept.

>>1757405
She looks like my sister, that's funny. I think the neck should be more to the right, more in the direction of the chin, and the nose is too much like a big potatoe, it'd be pretty if it was a bit more pointy, but maybe it's intentional. Also the mouth is a bit too low, but maybe it's intentional too. Also maybe a very thin line of shading below the hair, especially the right side with the face highlight

>>1757405
The mouth look terrible. The nose is not great too, but its okay i guess.
You could shade the ear better.

>>1757425

Here's a pic of the model, is there definitely something wrong with the mouth?

>>1757427

I wouldn't show your drawing to her.

>>1757427
Actually is way worse than before. In the model picture she is kind of smilling, happy. In your draw looks like she is very old. The eyes are very sad too.
Put more expression.

WIP

studying some Barque plaques

>>1757442
>>1757434

I'm just going to start a new drawing then, thanks for the advice.

>>1757405
It took you like three hours to finish the shading on the upper lip?

>>1757452

What?

made some brushes
tested some brushes

>>1756434
When you're doing a life study, try squinting to find the major masses. Find the darkest and the lightest values, then compare the rest to them.

Also try and have a more accurate drawing. If you're just starting out, try something simple instead. Much easier to correct a drawing error then, than if you have a very complex shape.

>>1757034
Have you tried a different angle? Girl meets monster has been done a lot of times. Are they ecquals? The composition suggests so.

Maybe try a different angle, what would happen if we saw the girl from the back, giving a portrait feeling to the monster. What if that was reversed, only hinting at the lizard? Lots of exciting solutions to the story you're telling here.

>>1757034
Some ways you could handle the size difference

>>1757483
>>1757489
Thank you for actually useful commenting.

>>1757483
dat mullins palette

>>1756730
Looked at stuff on my desk and stuff online and yea, the metal looks a lot better now, I haven't fixed the clunky hair yet but will do later. At the time it was just me being lazy and using the same square I used on everything else.

>>1756734
I tried, since its just painting over old lineart (picrelated) I had no prior composition so I threw in a quick background and am now aiming to have her face+shoulders+upperchest be the focal point with bright reflecting light against the darker background.

Thanks again guys I'll keep working on it.

I just made this line drawing. Are my proportions up to par /ic/?

>>1757525
Her face looks derpy as fuck.

>>1757531
Duly noted ;-;

>>1757525
Duuuuuuddddeeee, what is she on? That's gotta be some good shit. Hook a nigga up, man.

Thanks for the feedback in the last thread.Calling it done

>>1757525
I did thing. How feel?

Any help on how to get into mecha/scifi? Had a hard time designing the arms

>>1757546
whats her story ? her design doesnt make a lot of sense to me

>>1757178
>>1757299
thx! so how can i make the next batch better ? Playing with opposite shapes more ?

>>1757058
hahahah you're into these things?

wtf is up with their creepy looking eyes? looks like they've been up for years with no sleep.

>>1757548
Shes a reaper... and a priest... with bionic arms.

>>1757427
she is a "model" hmmm

>>1757155
yeah, looks like goofy cell shading... no idea how to paint.

>>1757427
her lips look crusty and dry AF

oil pastel

started as a try on smudge rendering and ended up a clusterfuck of shit lol.
Was procrastinating too much on this, trying to fix the pose, useless rendering etc so i gave it the Pagemaster look to shamelessly hide the unfinished hands and get over it .
ive learned a bit on blending options and smudge effects i guess ..
feels like a cool effect/idea wasted on a shitty subject but whatever ahah

>>1757579
I really like the paintery effect. How did you achieve that?

>>1757606
read his post
smudge tool

Please excuse the lines. I'm at work and wanted to be in a draw thread so I doodled something.

I've been drawing consistently since 8 but only started practicing concepts like anatomy, perspective, etc on and off since 2012.

>>1757556
that's what I thought. Alright, I'll do another red-line to fix some of the proportion issues, I already noticed that one of the girls' feet are too large in relation to her head. Maybe I could adjust one of them back a little to try to add some depth or something.

>>1757579
i like (most of) it

>>1757546
>>1757557
Apply machine aesthetics to what you're drawing like you did there, but keep in mind the general theme you want to go for. Flowing robes like that don't usually click with the general sci-fi aesthetic, it's usually a fantasy thing. if you streamlined it a bit, could probably work.
Look up real life robots, too. Makes for some killer inspo.

>>1757452
>>1757454
haha Napoleon Dynamite
But yeah, you over-rendered the lips before anything else was solid.

>>1757530
Yaoi hands

Everyone on here is so goddamn good. I feel I should draw more.

>>1757405
Don't worry about the shirt. Don't worry about the hair. What you should worry about is that you're symbol drawing. Look at the abomination you made, and then look at the ref. Does her nose really look like that? No. Even the over rendered mouth, does it really look like that in the ref? No.

Learn to see angles and proportions before you get caught up in rendering. Just DRAW about a hundred portraits like this, using only line, not even worrying about value or hair texture or anything more advanced than just recreating what you see.

Also go through the Edwards book. It would probably help you.

>>1757632

If you want to get better, 'on and off' is hardly the mentality you should have.

>>1757545

Not cute enough. Those eyes need some change, though I'm not sure how. Look up reference of cute girl drawings from gud artists. You're getting there though.

>>1757530
The face is horrible and clavicles don't work that way. Did a monster eat the bottom part of her deltoid?

Do some anatomy studies.

>>1757632
>started practicing concepts like anatomy, perspective, etc on and off since 2012.
Looks like it's been mostly off if that's how far you've come in 2 years. Same advice, do anatomy studies.

>>1757058
>I posted a really shit version of this a while back
>implying this version is not really shit.

>>1757545

maybe it helps, but it's not much

eye down, nose and mouth fix, eyebrows gotta get angular

>>1757671
I guaruntee you the old one was shittier.

How can I improve my ability to draw with lines, I've been avoiding it for a long time by painting digitally, where I can just cover up mistakes and am starting to notice a difference in 'skill' levels.

>>1757714
Back to basics with pencil and paper. Learn to hatch, and learn about line weight. For hard mode, use ballpoint pens. They teach you about line confidence.

Sketch always.

>>1757671
Yea it has been. I'm at a crossroads right now. I've been making music, drawing, doing video projects, and learning photoshop. I want to pick a single concentration but can't decide because I love all of it.

>>1757579
this is good. you know your shit

>>1756300
Here is a study thing i did.

I read i should use blue and red for it. though i'm not positive if i did it right. either way i consider it unfinished.

>tfw first time posting in 2 months. fbm.

>>1757352
I REALLY like your style, even though you haven't hit that photographic realism, yet.

I hear people say Sinix improved really fast, what did he do? draw for hours and hours or something?

>>1757295
Stop doing tiny brushstrokes and raise the opacity

>>1757544
ugh could you have made the background more horrible?

>>1757546
for me thats the easy most cofort zone shit.

though i think the overall design fantasy and everything clashes.

i think understanding some very basic tech stuff will go a long way.

>>1757362
Love the detail in the thigh highs. Only thing I have a problem with is the background - it doesn't do much for the piece - and her right leg looks a little off.
Other then that, pretty good.

>>1757992
MMMMMMMMMMMM
i love this

Been working on this for the past few hours. Any obvious mistakes I've overlooked? I haven't got to the mouth yet, sorry.

>>1757992
that's neet; how did you do the marble texture?

>>1758027
Your proportions are all over the place, better fix it now than later.

>>1758027
head seems to be at a greater angle than her facial features

>>1758027
Firez is that you? kek
You should draw it before you paint, that shit shouldn't take a few hours

Most recent drawing for a /v/ draw thread,

2 things i was trying to accomplish with these -
-More dynamic poses.
-Cleaner line work

I don't think I got more dynamic poses, still looks a little stiff to me,
Can anyone recommend any artist i can study to get that down.
and I think i did rather well with the line work,
Thoughts?

>>1758037
Not Firez, sorry. And that's true, but I'm not very trained - as you can see.

>>1758033
>>1758036
Oh god, I didn't notice. Thank you.

>>1757244
what things are you having trouble with specifically, and in what ways are you finding them harder than in traditional media?

>>1758027
Share your brush settings please?

>>1756684
The arm is dislocated.

I'm somewhat new to digital painting and I love you guys because you guys just shit down people's throats without second thought and give harsh critique. You guys don't sugarcoat it with "Oh it looks alright." "It's better than anything I could do." "Well... I love it."
NO. IT LOOKS FUCKING WRONG AND I NEED TO KNOW WHY.

oh btw hows this painting doing

>>1758115
Huh, makes me want to paint fire. Apple with it's stem as a burning wick? Think I'm gonna do that.
Thank you for the idea.

>>1758060
face is weird, otherwise it's pretty nice

>>1758106
looks like the standard round brush just turned up to 11.

>>1757684
this looks pretty ok from the thumb but zoomed in it has some issues. i like the design overall and the blue in her clothing but feel the gold is kind of too much maybe tone it down or have it a closer value to the blue.

Her face and pose of her head seem kind of stiff and the features a tad small.


overall i like it,.

>>1757546
So is that scythe basically an axe with some added shit on it? You need to keep some functionality in your designs, otherwise it looks just stupid.

Taarna and her little bird dude from Heavy Metal

alright... this is another dirty pic, don't suppose anyone would be as kind as to point any flaws (I'm sure there's half a dozen, proportions seem to be alright, at least I'm trying to work with reference...

Trying to rework this with cubes/cylinder forms.

>>1758197

The left thight on the right chick is a little fucky. Doesn't seem to taper as much as it should. Other than that nothing too noticeable, assuming you want the trannys head on the left to be that high up. It's lower in the image, but that depends on the size of the guys dick I suppose.

Best thing to do is do an solid outline and then go from there. It can be hard to pick out errors when you're using such loose guides.

Hylas and the water nymphs
This is a sketch for a painting that ill have to present in a month.
The lines are according the golden ratio.

>>1758220
well actually, now that you mention it, the middle "guy" is supposed to be another futa... I'll do another outline.

Any advice on making the middle figure more feminine/womanly so I don't end up making some kind of drag queen?

The idea was to draw something that looked uncanny.
I failed miserably and ended up with something that dooks like a caricature of someone with downs syndrome..
Anyway, comments and critique is very welcome

>>1758230

Is there any hope for me?

>>1758225

She's covered up quite a bit so you're going to have to do it with smooth curves and feminine facial and body features. When you try and construct humans the way you are it can be very difficult to tell the difference between the two genders because generally the muscle and fat deposits are more telling than the underlying bone structure, particularly from the angle you have it at. Once you get your lines in and add feminine curvature to the body + female body language (pointed / scrunched toes on the left foot, gentle and relaxed body, hair, etc.) it'll all come together and be easier to tell what's going on.

>>1758232
wat?

>>1758230
I don't think it's possible to make a face look uncanny when there are no accessories like "mysterious" hair, beast-like eyes, etc.

>>1758240
ah, i'll keep that in mind for next time

>>1758240
which is why uncanny valley is usually associated with humanoid robots(that actually try to emulate the look of a real human)?

>>1758245
Yeah, that's an accessorie from my point of understanding.

>>1758247
i was actually making a point against the previous poster.

uncanny valley is mostly associated with things that try to look human. you dont need stupid features like "beast eyes" or "mysterious hair" to make something look uncanny. at that point you are probably too far away from it anyway.
uncanny value occurs when you try to emulate normal human features

Wip, critiques would be appreciated.

>>1758224
forgot to mention that comments ant critique would be very much appreciated

>>1757545
>>1757684
>>1758152
>>1757670

Guy who did the original derpy face here, thanks for all the feedback guys I'll fix it up and post it sometime later.

>>1758265
Also one more thing, its not my design at all, fanart for maplestory2, an upcoming korean mmo.

>>1758060

Don't study other artists to get more dynamism in your figures, instead you should start doing timed gestures. Lurk more, there's usually a thread about it.

Just a sketch so far

>>1758305
I thought his neck looked weird, so here's a redline. Sorry if it was intentional or something
Diggin it so far!

>>1758288

Thanks for the suggestion, but I've been doing 10 - 20, 30 second gestures every day for the past 8 months now.
Thats why I thought studying another artist might help, cuz it just not sticking, its very frustrating, I dunnoh maybe im just not thinking the right way when I draw them.

>>1758342
Great, thanks!

>>1758106
As the other anon said, standard Sai brush.

sketched out hylas

Training to draw and paint with tablet. Progress so far, not finished yet.

Sketch > Paint > Blend > Detail 1 > Moar details to go

>>1758373
The colours are quite off, but the rendering itself is decent. Watch out for the proportions by the way (the tip being the obvious error here)

How are you blending it? If you're using a mixer, smudge, etc; try to manually blend and render it until you've got that. Don't rely on tools until you know how to manually do it.

When blocking out the colours, use the broadest brush first. Your hues are fucked from the start when you began laying down the paint.

When painting more reflective or glossier objects, be careful about painting the highlights, because that can overall affect the form and material of the object.

And quit chickenscratching.

But yeah, overall it's decent. Practice more and be more diligent about respecting the reference material. Basically, practice your observational skills more.

>>1758383
blending manually
Still too bad color sensibility, gotta work on that but I really hate value rendering, no patience :'(
Chickenscratching is due to the fact I'm not used to draw with tablet, and it's fkin unconfortable to me compared to analogic media

thx for crits, will try to end it fixed, gotta keep pushing myself

experimenting

>>1758395
interesting.

are you the same guy who did this?

>>1758396
same faggot

>>1758395
The dark guy in the lower right corner should be scratching turn tables.

>>1758396
I love this so much! Pls tell me you have an art related job.

>>1758404
no, though now i think ill be able to focus on art side of things, which feels so so good

>>1758408
dude, how have you not an art related job?
i have been stalking your work for some time now and you are among the best people on /ic/.

also still waiting for the day you get a DA or tumblr or whatever

It's a watch

>>1758305
I ruined it, didn't I? I'm shit at rendering...
Could someone please tell me what's there to do?

>>1758429
just go full retard on it and just sit and look at it, questioning what you could do to make it better, believe it or not, your brain will come up with solutions, not always the right ones, but its worth a try realizing them

>>1758438
That's what I'm doing, but there might be something very obvious wrong I just can't see. Tried flipping and zooming out. Seems like I just need to study colors more and faces, because he looks very stiff to me, even though the initial sketch was fine, more or less.

>>1758444
dont be afraid to paint over something you worked for hours, if something looks wrong, it probably is.

Try to simplify areas that doesnt work for you.

For me this is only at initial sketch level, theres alot of things to work on.

Buy some bananas, nuts and coffee and put 10hours in it.

Do i need more loomis guys?
Why doesnt it look right? And how are my values?

>>1758472

Seems like the eyes don't really match

This is actually pretty fun I think I could learn a shit ton from this image.

>>1756636
I have a vague idea of what I want to do with the comp but planning always seems to destroy images for me. Takes all the fun away. You are correct though I need to think on comp alot more in the project ahead.

>>1756661
Thanks, Trying to see it as a whole again rather than bits and pieces. Pretty out of it atm. I suppose it's a good thing that the face looks reffed to shite >:D!

>>1758472
Hope I helped. Her right eye was in terrible perspective and the values were flat.

>>1758452
>dont be afraid to paint over something you worked for hours

you can just easily save different versions in photoshop anyway.
in traditional media you will have to destroy your work at least partly to apply corrections.
but as long as you are learning that's all part of the fun anyway

>>1758481
used mouse to overpaint

focus on good read first and foremost

beginner shit

>>1758497

Wooow

Im so jealous of dudes who can make interesting comps like this.

what are some good books for beginners /ic/?
oh also can I make a request?

>>1758504
its not hard, just make things overlap, avoid tangents.

values are very important too

>>1758505
read the sticky
no free requests, you can request commisioned work here only

>>1758041

>>1757573
No idea what it is but I like it

>>1758517
lamps

>took me 3 seconds

>>1758515
I rly like you, can you paint?

>>1758515
as much as i sometimes hate you, this is one of the more interesting drawings you have done.

>>1756300
How do I get better from here? Is this still beginner level?

>>1758530

He is the guy that /ic/ loves to hate. I would personally drink a couple of beers with him.

>>1758395
How to make it look like oil paint

>>1758540
i dont hate him, when i do(which is rare), for personal reasons anyway. just for the stuff he posts. i am sure he is a good guy

>>1758538
this is picasso-level shit right there. I am an art scout so i must know.

>>1758538
Don't be afraid to spread your wings.. or propellers in this case.


>>1758540

p.s. I would probably grab a beer with you guys.

>>1758540
hes the guy who loves to be hated. dying for attention.

>>1756386
Twist the fore leg a bit to were the knee Is In the middle.
That gives It a twist and sas.

>>1758562
Did you just draw Bad Art Gyroman to make fun of me, did you not know it was Gyroman?

>>1758570
whoa, why so defensive?

Here is my first experiment with values.
I feel like i used too much time on this due to a bad understanding of how the software works:
I pretty much did it everything with 100% opacity and 23% flux, color picking only from the palette, changing continuosly the brush size and not using the pressure sensibility of my cheap wacom. Could i did this in a smarter and faster way? Any directions to share with a beginner?
>inb4: sticky
thx

>>1758515
yep i like it.
>>1758540
it's an anonymous site, of course he is a little an attention whore

It's not much but as a beginner I'm pretty happy with this little portrait of little old me

>>1758591
You look 7

working on putting things in perspective

>>1758600
Yes I meant 'little old me' literally, I used an old photo as model
I'll post again when I make something more interesting
I love colour pencils, it's more fun than expected

Can someone point out my mistakes?

>>1758625
I'm not much better than you, but i can say you're trying to move too quickly. You must work on copying from life, perspective, gesture , values and anatomy, in this order.
Read and practice some head contruction tutorial.
And mirror the image tosee the horror.

>>1758577
I was curious if you knew who the character was or if you were just going off of my own reference

And I guess there's a big of jealous rage in there

>>1758515
Makes me want to redraw the whole thing.

Damn it.

>>1757671
>>1757650
Thanks for the feedback. It turned out like this. How feel? Please don't mind the cop out background and spacefiller text

>>1758429

it's because your anatomy is shit.