/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1752881

Just watched it. Good Documentary.

Waiting until historians want to put an asterisk next to his paintings in art history books.

And people complain that people do photobashing in concept art of all things.

Vermeer 10/10 tracer scum would hang in buckingham palace.

>>1753230
You really think he is scum for tracing? This is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo different from photobashing. If you really believe he is bad because of that, dude, give up, you're not goin anywhere.

>>1753230

>>1752881

cliffnotes of the documentary: vermeer was a tracing homo faggot who deserves no more praise than the fags who post shitty paintovers of celebrity photos on da

>>1753325
He was a pioneer* of tracing.

He also arranged the subjects himself.

>>1753328

are you the guy that also thinks wojtek is awesome because only results matter? fuck that shit mate.

your daily reminder that sargent is legit.

>>1753329
No I dislike those polish guys


It's just it's not the same since he was the first dude to ever do it.

He has rough work that shows it was much more than just set things up randomly and then paint what the mirror saw.

I respect vermeers work and will still appreciate it even though he didn't do it by hand no scope etc. Even sargent used a plumb line

>>1753334
>Even sargent used a plumb line

really? mind posting source? now im curious to how deep the rabbithole is

>Vermeer is a dirty tracer, no better than a photobasher!
>It's okay 'cause Vermeer did it first!
>Fuck results!
>Sargent used plumb line? Need source.
>MFW

>>1753342
seeing purist fags disown their heroes is always hilarious

>artist develops innovative technique
>spends life mastering the technique
>people can't figure out the technique for hundreds of years
>until
>obsessive fan
>tries to mimic
>numerous resources available
>still produces mediocre results

>b-but tim isn't a trained artist
Saying anyone less than a professional wouldn't be able to produce quality similar to vermeer discredits statements against Vermeer's work ethic

>lost-wax casting
>drawing grid
>reference models/photo
>electric lighting
>digital camera
>power tools
>store-bought supplies
>etc
>etc
>etc

>>1753258
Grow a sense of humor

Anyway to find this movie online?

Old news

http://www.amazon.com/Vermeers-Camera-Uncovering-Behind-Masterpieces/dp/0192159674

>>1753467

They meet with the author of that book in the video.

>>1753357

>> Saying anyone less than a professional wouldn't be able to produce quality similar to vermeer discredits statements against Vermeer's work ethic.

True, but now its hard to tell how much skill he actually had. If any other old master had access to a similar device would their paintings have been better?

The way I see it, Vermeer's works are now closer to being color photographs than what most would consider a painting. He just used oil and canvas instead of film.

i wanna see dis fuqboi's painting

>>1753507
>True, but now its hard to tell how much skill he actually had.
Nope, same as he always had. Just look at his paintings, they're really gorgeous and his use of a particular aide with creating the drawing doesn't take away from that.

>If any other old master had access to a similar device would their paintings have been better?
No, they would've been different.

Epic. Nice to see the old masters finally get slammed.

>>1754463
It's just one old master, and showing his method isn't slamming him. /ic/ needs to grow out of this "omg u cheated you can't make art that way" mindset.

>>1754466
tracefag detected

>>1754479

>>1752881
>Have you seen this documentary?
>I think it's great!

I have just watched it.

Well I think it was a pleasure to watch. But not many things are happening. There is this guy that is able to spend a lot of money in recreating the Vermeer's working environment.

Also we're not sure that Vermeer really used that little mirror.

Take for example kim jung gi. Maybe someone could find a trick to paint on walls like him. But that doesn't mean there aren't people like kim being able to do that without any sophisticated tools.

Just paint a grid on your glasses.
That should do the trick.

>>1754883
or do something sensible like construct a net of strings on a painting frame and put it up over whatever you want to paint. That is, if you really want a grid and think putting one on your glasses is a good idea.

>>1754953

have you any idea of the details that had vermeer paintings? The grid works just for doing something similar, not to recreate an exact vermeer's painting. Just check all those little details on the clothes.