/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1742662
I think this guy got worse.

Well, you'll improve I'd you want to.

>>1742662
This is fucked up mane. But I can't stop laughing.

>>1742665
it's sad really

>>1742662
I'm far from good but... How exactly can somebody not improve more than that in over 6 years? Only drawing like once every 2 or 3 months or what?

>>1742681
>no foundational skills
>stuck in muh style
>no peers to critique you
>ignore or get angry at the people who do
>hug box mentality

>>1742690
what do you mean by muh style

>>1742681
Because unlike you this person is blanketed with an environment that pampers and compliments excessively which makes the person think they're good and when someone points out the lack of fundamentals the person would more than likely be very defensive because of all the pampering and praise they got. This is why I come to /ic/ these mother fuckers will be honest and call your shit out so if you hide hands and feet /ic/ will crucify you if your drawing is stiff /ic/ will make you pull your hair apart if you neglect perspective you will be called shit.

>>1742677
Pic related. If you really want to pick this future by all means its really up to you if you want to learn and git gud or not.

>>1742693
that didn't help at all
how long

>>1742692
Basically, when you stylize without foundations. You need a foundation to stylize. You try to point out the faults in a lot of these peoples pictures and they'll usually fall back on "it's just my style!".

>>1742701
interesting

>>1742708
i must know more i'll look it up

>>1742662
this depresses me

>>1742701
what are foundations

>>1742793

motor skills / medium competency
linear perspective
the concept that value change = form change
composition
knowledge of the elements of art
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_of_art

shit like that

>>1742662
Where can I find more shit art like this to make myself feel better about

>>1742815
deviantart>front page>newest

>>1742817
This isn't funny. I lost count how many fucking times I saw either Sanic, Pony or some weird neon rainbow colored dogs in the same flat pose and other shit. Why is that?

>>1742823
because people think that just because they have MSpaint and a mouse that they can draw. i've also seen selfies on the front page

>>1742823
I am almost enjoying the cringes.

>>1742662
This is joke, yes? You draw this and make look like is from deviantart.

>>1742815
I'm crying right now

>>1742836
I stopped after I started to see a trend of weird fetish like inflated bellies. Hey someone post that one goddamn random as fuck comic of some mexican guy that turns into a diaper under moonlight. I need a nice chuckle

>>1742838
For your viewing pleasure

>>1742838

To double the laughs how about someone else also finds the comic where a dinosaur turns starfox into a penis. Bonus points for the animated gif version.

>>1742843
I fucking lost it. I can't breathe. Bless you Anon I am crying. Had to retype captcah 4 fucking times.

>>1742845
Here's a fun game
Name the most fucked up fetish shit you can think of and see how long it takes you to find something that fits the brief

>These captchas are getting harder

>>1742853
Okay some lawyer had this fetish that involves wrapping him inside a large trash bag, tie it up and dump him inside a dumpster.

>>1742853

I don't have the pic but it's one of the most vomit inducing thinhd I've seen on the internet. It's a furry picture where some kid in a diaper is holding some older man's hand. The older man is saying something along the lines of "yes my son I will marry you". The fact that the picture is extremely crudely drawn doesn't help.

>>1742857
post it

>>1742844
oh fuck you anon, I just managed to repress the memory of that
god damn you

>>1742909
Damn that's creepy

opened Deviantart, and it took me 4 seconds to see this shit

Just found this bad boy.

>dem abs
>dat deltoid placement
>dat bicep insertion

>>1742978
That's not too bad. For deviantart standards AND level of depravity.

>>1743014

>Implying anime follows anatomy

>>1742662
This is depressing. Makes me feel even more bad about not starting when I was young.

>>1743047
>implying it doesn't

That's like saying cartoons don't follow anatomy because of Simpsons and South Park. Plenty of stylized work is rooted in reality, anime even moreso than western cartoons.

>>1742909
you gotta wonder what kind of depraved mind created this. i mean come on, let's not kid ourselves that when you imagine the sort of person that makes this stuff, you imagine a person with severe mental problems and 20 cats

>>1742909
I don't get it.

>>1742978
>49% sweet

>>1742662
How something like this even happen. I mean, how it's possible not to improve. Unless you are really young, it's hard stay just like that. Sure, some people improvement is slow but I believe nothing is static.

>>1743160
Youth is no excuse either, I drew better at 12 than at 10, and was better at 10 than at 8. Probably some scrub who does 1 drawing a month, of the exact same thing, purely from imagination.

>>1743169
thru all those years he only learned how to scan a picture

>>1743169
I really like this, but I like the right one a bit more.

I've tried to draw like this recently and I find it somewhat difficult.

>>1743190

>>1743190
caking in a cake thread

>>1743199
Not him but sometimes it;s fun to draw like shit. There's a certain innocence to it.

>>1743169
>The top of the right pictures reds as "You're special".

>>1743169
>The sentence at the top of the right picture is Spanish for "You're special."

>>1743073
I always imagine some ugly pale white overweight American teenage girl from the bible belt with an unhealthy obsession in anime/Japanese culture. I bet her grandmother lectures her on anime being from the devil.

>>1742909

shit like this is just plain disturbing. I have met furfags irl and they're fucking freaks.

>>1743481
They don't necessarily have to be a furfag, and even then they're not necessarily fucking freaks either. That doesn't make this any less disturbing but you people act like anything remotely animal is the product of "furfaggotry".

>>1743479
this is insanely accurate

>>1743479
>>1743542
Are you faggots retarded? It's clearly drawn by a male aspie.
Who usually obsesses over schoolgirls, anime and retarded fetishes?

>>1743557
>Who usually obsesses over schoolgirls, anime and retarded fetishes?

Women. Just lurk /d/.

>>1743558
Women obsess over faggots. They rarely sexualize other women in the same bizarre way aspies manage to.

>>1743566
Do-ho-ho. You haven't met Elzie.

>>1743566

Nice generalizations bub

>>1742843
holy shit I'm suffocating from my lels

>>1743574
How absolutely retarded do you have to be to use an argument like that? If a cat started barking, that doesn't mean cats in general bark. It's an exception to the rule... fuck...

>>1743577
As opposed to the generalization you're supporting? Nice hypocrisy.
The difference here is that my observation is statistically correct.

>>1743581
>getting this defensive about your views on niche fetish porn, gays and women

>>1743578
I lost it the second time after seeing that cartoon bear face reaction and reading the bottom right comment. This is comedy gold.

quit arguing and post more art

>>1743481
>>1742909
I just want to know wtf is going on in that picture. My understanding at this point is that some kind of parasitic butterfly larvae migrated into the cat thing's brain and now the adults have hatched, which induces hormonal changes in the host causing it to seek out others to spread the infestation.

>>1743607
It started off as a regular dude and he got infected just like you said.

I think I've wasted my life when I can recognize all of these because I've spent way too much time on 4chan.

>>1743607
I interpreted it as some Transgendered otherkin who was being oppressed by xer's clothes and so when xe cross dressed and met xim and xam happy butterflies filled xir's mind and lived happily ever after.

>>1743558
How deluded would one have to be to think the majority of that shit is by women?

The fact that the majority of people are heterosexual should be sufficient.

>>1743619
My point is that Women have more incentive over sex which may even involve an extreme fetish. Ever seen an experiment of one gentleman who pretended to be asleep on a subway train and placed a camera on his crotch to act as an erection? The camera recorded a great number of women who even licked their lips and secretly took photographs with their phones and signaled other Women about this guy and they all stared instead of respecting one's body.

>>1742662
1 day

>>1742853
I remember a fetish involving wrapping Roy Orbison in clingfilm.

>>1743669

WHAT

>>1743676
Hold on to your sanity, Anon. We're going for a ride...

http://michaelkelly.artofeurope.com/karl.htm

>>1743669
Only the lonely-est person would ever be into this.

>>1743647
Source?

Autism is a hell of a drug

>>1743708
I take it back he actually had a bulge. But nevertheless he still had a camera.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fe9_1389892607

>>1743711
Damn, apart from the awful quality, those designs are almost identical to ones I had in a dream a few years back.

>>1743716
That's scary

>>1743711

I finally found the one in the lower corner.

Autism or whatever he has aside, this stuff is metal as fuck.

>>1743711
That's actually p. well done 4 paint

>>1743724
>All those misspellings
This is pretty spooky

>>1743711
woah

>>1743647
>My point is that Women (why the fuck is 'women' even capitalized?)...
Then you need to work on making your points clear, because holy shit that's not what you've said nor implied at all.

Regardless, it's males that are into the schoolgirl shit or whatever you dolt. Why the fuck would you think it's mainly women who are into that shit?
>...which may even involve an extreme fetish
Most extreme fetishes are owned by males, even. Don't see why that's note worthy.
>Ever seen an experiment of one gentleman
That video was clearly biased; not to say that it's not possible or anything, but he automatically assumed any glances = they were staring and admiring at his crotch, licking of the lips couldn't have been due to dry lips or anything, etc.

>>1744465
fu

>>1744465
Actually dude, most of the chicks I've dated are way more fucked up than I am. Creepy shit like calling me daddy and asking me if I fuck mommy like this. Asking me to hit them, things like that.

All I want is consensual missionary sex with someone I can care about.

>>1744465
>Regardless, it's males that are into the schoolgirl shit or whatever you dolt. Why the fuck would you think it's mainly women who are into that shit?


Ahaha, virginity alert. A lot of women are very, very into that age play / daddy-daughter shit.

>Most extreme fetishes are owned by males, even.

There's a whole subreddit of women who fuck their dogs, man. Women are fucking kinky. Much more so than men, in my experience.

>>1744652
>There's a whole subreddit of women who fuck their dogs

Why am I not surprised, pussy is vile and evil.

>>1743711
At least that's creative and not generic animu bullshit most autists spit out. If he's twelve that shit's cool as fuck.

>>1743711
Is this that "foreverial tied-up" kid? I can't find the picture but it's just as creepy as these are and has the same writing style

>>1743711
>>1743724
those are awesome. i could see myself looking at them in an art gallery. i am serious. that's the best worst art i have ever see

>>1744737
reminds me of shitty album art covers

and normcore

#nxtlvl
#postart

>>1743169
She unlearned how feet attach to the body..

This thread is a direct illustration of /ic/.

>>1742662
Christ, OP, are you 12 years old or something? I'm sorry if that seemed kind of rude but I haven't been at that level since I was at least 6 or 7 years old. But you should just keep practicing I spose, that's really all you can do. And you're gonna have to practice A LOT with the stage you're at.

>>1744865
Oh wait, nevermind, you didn't do this, my mistake, whoever did it, though, must be fucking borderline down syndrome or something

>>1742662
erisama deviantart com

can't understand, why she's not improving. All her drawings looks like this...

>>1744866
Or maybe they just, you know, don't draw all the time?

>>1744910
She has also more views on a pic than my whole gallery... And I am A LOT better... Makes me depressed...

What a beauty...

>>1744918
>that artist's deviantart page
>100k page views
>the same fucking kawaii large eyes "style" used since 2008

>>1744914
do more fan art. Fan art views bleed over.

>>1744918
>>1744939
>>1744914
>>1744910
do you think she's cute

>>1744976
More than likely better looking than all of you Anons and that's a fact.

>>1742662
at least the feet are pointing the right way now...

>>1744976
well, I guess, kinda
now someone tell her to git gud

>>1744976

I'd pee in her butt.

>>1743073
The whole comic involves a man being transformed into a diaper wearing cat girl who plays with her friends all day. It sounds like an escapist fantasy, and the artist may be an undiagnosed transwoman in addition to an infantilist.

>>1743711
God damn, I feel like if a competent artist/writer took a swing at these we'd have WH40K

>>1745442
I'm not sure if you're complimenting the work, or insulting 40k.

>>1745442

Reminds me more of that one guy in the movie VIRUS.

Too bad it didn't have more cyborgs and the movie sucked.

>>1742843
The mustache gets me every time

>>1744678

I noticed that too. The guy has some furry that's wrapped in Bologna while his organs are turning into lunch meat or some shit.

>>1742978
Holy shit
Thumbnail totally looked like Shad, but now I'm getting mixed feelings of M^J.

>>1744910
I.. I just...

>>1745533
This is what happens when you get locked in "muh style" mode

>>1745535
in muh cleats

>>1743678
wat.

>>1742662
>>1742909
>>1743014
>>1743169
>>1744918
>>1745533

>>1745533
>critique
>deviantart
Pick one or the other.

>>1745658
DOOKIE

>>1745658
I tried to critique once on someone's shitty comic. I got blocked and called hitler by three people in messages. I wish i was joking.

>>1745966
What's wrong with Hitler?

>>1745966
If you responded to it like you would in 4chan, then no wonder. You would get that reaction anywhere.

>>1745966
Hitler did nothing wrong.

makes me want to make an account on dA to post asshole critique on these people

>>1745981
>>1745989
XD

>>1743479
oh my god its like you know

>>1743067

Franky is an unrealistic character by design. He's a cyborg in One-Piece, with enormous forearms and small biceps, so fans should have some license to fuck up his anatomy a bit.
Not that it makes the pic good, but fanarts are for fun, they're not studies.

>>1743122
> I don't get it.

That's because you're mentally sane. Don't try, it's dangerous.

>>1745981
>>1745989

stay in your containment board >>>/pol/

>>1746081
>not getting the joke

>>>/reddit/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/out/

>>1746141
Yay! Shitty memes!

>>1744837
The left picture is goose stepping.

>>1742662
I think it's really a matter of trying to stick to a style, because you've convinced yourself it looks good. They avoid looking to improve because they think drawing the same thing over and over will just automatically make their "style" better.

>>1746081
>Being this mad

>>1746144
This is a classic 4chan meme.

It's your fault you are so new to this place that you get anal pained about Hitler.

>>1743014
I't now that bad for animushit

>>1746195
>This is a classic 4chan meme.
Eben Butter!

>>1745533

Is that fucking Tintin in May?

I know that it's different from person to person but if you are a total beginner that never drew anything and then practice 3 hours a day for a year how far will you be able to improve? I am just intimidated by how small improvements are over a year even with tons of practice. I understand that you can't get from 0 to, idk, Durer in a year but all I want is to draw cute animu girls in b/w and even that seems to be a too high goal for a year. I mean I will keep going no matter what but still... right now I am not really enjoying drawing.

What the...

>>1746311
The neck and shoulders are a bit weird, but I like the style

>>1746311
I'm trying to fucking make sense how the hell do those arms work oh holy shoit

>>1746311
western as fuck

>>1746318
her arms are by her side, while the ones in frame are someone else's. That or it's like one of those poorly shooped magazine advertisements with multiple poses merged without being cleaned up,

>>1746317
What about the fucking arms?

>>1743711
If these ideas were drawn by Wayne Barlowe or any other surrealist artist I would shit myself to sleep

>>1746322
Well, they're pretty long, but they're not bad. you cropped only the left or right side of the image, they'd be pretty good, it's when they're supposed to be seen together that they're bad. The torso is what fucks everything up.

>>1746354
>you cropped
meant "if you cropped"

>>1746318
>>1746311
if you cut off the whole painting above the breasts it could make sense, maybe.

>>1746311
shoujo as fuck

>>1746354
>Well, they're pretty long, but they're not bad
Dude.

>>1746368
I know. I didn't mean "they're not too long", I meant "They're pretty long, but they're not ugly".

Just ignore me, ignore that post.

>>1746372
oooh

>>1746368
>>1746354
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Part-Of-Your-Wurld-458694002

>>1746311
How is it possible to draw so well yet fuck up proportions?

>>1746883
Because of deviantart crowd where your drawing is "OMG SO PERFECT SO KAWAII *W*~~ UR MY IDOL" as long as the eyes look ugu anime enough. And as long as a popular artist doesn't draw a comic mocking it.

I'll improve
some day

>>1743716
nothing surprising if you are a man.
As a teenage boy i was drawing ridiculously crazy half-flesh-half-machine cyborgs with lazers too.

A lot of kids draw retarded crap. It's just - nowadays there is a Deviantart so people can see it unlike back in 90s

>>1746883

Its because too many artists focus all their energy on one thing, and that is usually rendering. One of the reasons why the DA crowd are so focused on things like that rather than basic fundamentals is because learning all that is too hard or takes too long for their shit attention spans. This results in endless turd polishing and years of stagnation.

Another common thing is that they are good at copying and memorizing a handful of set poses instead of learning basic fundamentals. Shit falls apart when they try to combine set poses (usually with differing perspectives or conflicting poses) and it looks wonky and wrong as in that pic.

Also, what is even going on in the background, is she kneeling sideways below the table? Jesus that neck.

These people are more about the community than artistic improvement. They just doodle retarded shit, and compliment people so they get more friends who also draw retarded shit and polish it for 2 weeks.

>>1742909
These transexuals sure are fucked up.

>>1746311

>>1747406
MY UNCLE SAMMY

>>1746866

I'm dying, omg.

>>1747544
leelings i blame you

>>1742662
2009 is better than 2012 just sayan

>>1745981
he didnt won.

>>1746368
They could be really long like your pic related, or her elbows could have been real close up y'know?

>>1747718
stop posting

>>1747718

Uhh...

>>1747767
Okay I see
Well I guess it could have worked if she drew the upper arms thicker yeah...

Thanks for checkin me before I'm wreckin me

>>1747718
Due to the nature of foreshortening, if the elbows were supposed to be the closest to the camera in terms of depth, the opposite would've happened, and they would be even shorter.

you really should be practicing perspective and foreshortening 'non-kun

>>1743169
Seven years.
This person had seven years to improve.

>>1743724
>Oh the brain will come
Thanks for the nightmares.

>>1742662
Just work hard and work smart. You'll improve a ton. Keep going out of the comfort zone and experimenting. Observe everything and think why is this or that appealing to you. Learn from old masters. Learn fundamentals. Make it challenging.

>>1748218

the planes/construction on the right drawing are fucked

nice improvement for a year though

>>1747845
I should, you're right, I cant draw anything - confidently - that isnt from a first-point perspective
Was worse than I thought though hahaha I'm glad I posted then

>>1748202
If I hadnt known two deviantART members who posted daily and did "studies" frequently that never improved more than OP or "7 Years", I'd have defended them to being people who didnt draw more than once a month, minimum.

Its real. They're out there.

>>1743654
In the same boat. Hello, Loomis.

>>1748218
Shit man, I really like the style on that new one. Any specific advice, in terms of resources and whatnot, for a beginner looking to do something similar,? Or do you think the sticky's enough of a guide to eventually work at that level?

>>1748220
Thanks, still not good at imagination work(or deviating from refs severely). Gotta put more time into anatomy.
>>1748262
Theres no shortcuts, but it doesnt hurt to look for them, it acts as an incentive to look at what works and what doesnt. In terms of specific advice, I studied Rembrants portrait(from a high res reference, but you got to just keep drawing and putting the hours in. Learn skullstructure, learn values(its a large part of what makes colors work). Dont abuse soft brushes. Paint around the form.(I got my start to that in Peter Han's videos and Vilppu books).
Also theres a ton of useful stuff here http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3-page-10.html

>>1748277
LET'S HEAR IT FROM THE BOoOOYSS

http://www.ringostarrart.com/
Take a gander.

>>1749541
Is this guy legit? Please tell me this is satirical.

>>1749542
Ringo Starr, drummer for the Beatles.
About as legit as it gets.

>be a week ago
>be in an /ic/ thread
>bf sitting next to me suddenly exclaims "hey, I had that book when I was little!"
>mfw it's a how-to manga book being made fun of by d/ic/ks for a very good reason
I can't remember the author's name but she was on the same drawing level as >>1745533 pretty much
>I insult the book, he gets defensive and we rapidly descend into an argument about "muh style" vs good art
>at one point he says "but what IS art?" to counter what I was saying
>shows me a famous dA account (god i wish I could remember the name, I actually died a little on the inside) which had the 'artist' drawing things that looked like a lot of the characters in old, action games on newgrounds
>circle head, circle hands, rectangular body, you name it
>"he invented this style, nobody thought of this before him"
>this nigger is serious

I don't even have the energy to type the rest of what he was saying. Goddamn.
th-thanks for being a factor in our first argument, /ic/

>>1745533
still better than 95% of /ic/

>>1744979
Not according to my self portrait. (Disregarding the chin fuck up and totally legit teardrop tattoo to show what a badass I am)

>>1749657
and tiny ear, lol

>>1749638

You shouldn't go near him ever again.

>>1743711
That's a nice concept art.

>>1749638
Those heads looked like that because they were flash.

>>1748258
>tfw you first opened a drawing book and after reading the first few chapters you did a fuckhuge leap.

>>1749638
youre a girl?????

>>1749638
U in london ? drop him already and we can fuck im handsome :^)

>>1750194
I'm handsome too, how clean is your arsehole

Left is age 15 after art 1, right is age 21 after 6 days of /ic/, bottom right is porn I've been studying. I had not drawn since 16 until now and am not an art major.

pls validate me

>>1750469

Wow. six years and that. wow.

>>1750469
> bottom right is porn I've been studying
Go back to the sticky.

>>1743711
Dat slick blood plasma ass

>>1743669
http://michaelkelly.artofeurope.com/karl.htm

It's art you guys

>>1748218
Holy fuck man.

I just started drawing yesterday and I was wondering where to start.

Right now I'm just drawing a lot of faces, but later on I'm just going to learn from the human body down. Head, shoulders, hands, waist, legs,feet


I feel like I'm still not learning the correct way though.

How did you start off?

>>1746318
I see it clear as day

i'm starting to think they're trolling us now

>>1750718
The one on the right is better.

>>1750718
proportions and design are much better, even if its a doodle

>>1742662
The composition, overall scene 'increased'

that artist gotten more confident with their line work

however still no shadows.
how old is that drawer?

>>1743711
fuck that is metal

I laugh so hard every time I read this thread. keep it coming boyz

>>1750879
She's 22, here's her dA page

>>1743711
I dunno man, I think this is pretty cool. Looks like the shit I used to draw when I was 9 after playing Quake 2.

>>1743711
I think he has potential. Just needs to work on drawing but yeah. Ideas are cool.

>>1750965
>here's her dA page
it's amazing

>>1742662
It took her three years to turn the heels on the girl the right way. It took another three years to do the same for the guy.

This is the extent of how shit one can be.

>>1750996
HOLY FUCK!!!! I didn't notice that

>>1750965


I take that back, I was trying to be nice and thinking maybe this is a 6 year old who went to 9

DA link please???

>>1750987
>>1751051
Sorry, I thought the link's already there until you pointed it out, my bad

http://erisama.deviantart.com

>>1751050
my fucking sides. wow I thought this was a little kid and the comments

>with practice and lots of time
>practice and lots of time
>lots of time
lots of time???? 6 fucking years

>>1751068
http://erisama.deviantart.com/

She's FUCKING TWENTY-TWO YEARS OLD. I cannot fucking tell if she has a mental disorder or is just fucking stupid, I feel bad for this chick.

>>1751094
Would you fuck her though >>1744976

>>1751099

right in the pussy

>>1746311
SHE'S POPEYE THE SAILORMAN

>>1742662

This picture illustrates perfectly that you can't improve unless you actually put some effort in trying to be better. Not everything is automatic.

>>1744666
>creative

those are just some retarded looking stroggos

this>>1750971

I pity the dead that can no longer experience such joys.

http://eli-hinze.deviantart.com/?rnrd=37798#

This chick was in my hs class. Nice girl, but a pain in the ass artistically. Always criticizing the most pointless things in the vaguest of ways yet ignoring the fact that all her efforts to improve fell flat, kind of like you d/ic/ks.

>Trigger warning. One-eyed hair covering crutches plague these lands.

>>1750996

>>1742693
>This is why I come to /ic/ these mother fuckers will be honest and call your shit out so if you hide hands and feet /ic/ will crucify you if your drawing is stiff /ic/ will make you pull your hair apart if you neglect perspective you will be called shit.

Sounds great in theory, almost a little heartwarming, but poor in practice. Just wait until you get leagues of tonnage of flak fired at you for literally nothing at all.

Source(s) I see it happen. A lot.

>>1743654

>implying you aren't rocketing to greatness at light speed compared to her

HO HO HO YOU FUCKING MAGICAL MAN

>>1751130
This. Lots of people on this board who really don't know what they're talking about feels the need to give shitty critiques.

>>1746311
>7,600+ favorites

This is sad. Why.

>>1751126

>>1751141
>>1751126

9000 comments
16000 page views

>COMISSIONS

OY VEY

>>1751145
Arguably a better light.

we derp now

This one is getting better, difference is not that drastic but it's there.

While we're at it. It's animu though I don't think the progress is that bad.

>>1751177
But that's good

>>1751177
I like the landscape, can't comment much on character since I don't watch anime a lot.

>>1751147
She got way better though, the ear to eye and now proportion is right now, the nose and mouth to eye proportions are right, the neck looks good.

>>1751179
Me too, and the color got great after 2011.

>>1751178
Yes that's why I posted it. Just to provide a different perspective I guess. I think artists of above examples never really took time to learn.

>>1751179
I like the colors.

>>1750575
I lol'd so hard when I saw this

>>1750194
>we can fuck
>i'm handsome

TOP KEK

>>1744641
Have you seen /b/'s wincest threads? There's like 12 of them up at any given time and most are brother/sister or mother/daughter. I'd reckon most are males.

Please look at the first sentence. Worst part is he/she isn't even joking

>>1751291
At least she's better than deviantart average.

>>1751291

>scissor decapitation
>one clean cut
>my head when

>>1751126

She sucks, tell that to her.

>>1751130

True story.


>>1751291

Wtf goes on the mind ot those people, holy shit.

>>1751183
>Yes that's why I posted it. Just to provide a different perspective I guess. I think artists of above examples never really took time to learn.

Dude, until some point some years ago I never tried to improve and just got better drawing at the side of my school books. There is no excuse to be this bad for such a long time beside being retarded.

>>1751293
nah, DA has 50% of shit and 50% of decent artists, she's in the shit side.

I'm always amazed how these people mange to extend what should have been 3 weeks of improvement into 4 years.

How can one be so incompetent?
Do they not understand there must be some books written on the subject of improving your art?
Are they never curious about how their favorite artist starts a drawing?

>>1751305

Or perhaps she's stuck in the childs way of thinking for drawing. Mostly everyone, even adults would still be stuck in that mentality because it's a muscle they've never exercised before. They think that if pencil touches paper and with a little bit of luck, things will magically look good rather than understand how exactly you can manipulate tools to produce an image.

>>1751133
You can easily tell them apart from legit critique.

"Learn fundamentals" is one of the things that gets thrown around a lot. Just saying it's shit/flat/bad anatomy/ is just pointless, without giving reasons and pointters how to fix them. These people shold be banned.

>>1751324

>b-b but its not MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU

It's like the SJW of art up in here.

>>1751328
Sad part is, if there is even a hint of actual fundamentals in the drawing, it gets torn to shit by these retards. "Learn fundamentals before you try to draw, lol" Bitter people trying to put everyone down on their path for no reason but to feel important. Still, most of /ic/ is great, only few vocal idiots.

>>1751314
this

>>1751330

I know. It's so sad. There was a painting I saw a few months ago on a WIP thread. You could easily tell it was being worked on and was planned on being taken further than just a lineart person surrounded by a rendered environment. It was of an Yvonne Strahovski look-alike wading in a pond and wielding a Katana while bracing herself for combat. The anatomy was pretty spot on and while the pose altogether may have needed a little bit of work (since most line-art is flat by definition), it was not shit by any stretch. The comments that followed was shit like "flat pose, flat painting. 0/10", "learn anatomy before you post again", "l2loomis" and the classic "let me paint over your work and impose on you my highly debatable opinions".

I don't think that artist posted any more.

>>1751343

>"let me paint over your work and impose on you my highly debatable opinions"

Post of the year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to promote a hug-box mentality but if you're going to get hot and bothered in your criticisms about things that have a great degree of subjectivity or you're tearing someone up for something you're not willing to spell out for them, you're missing the point of a critique or perhaps just trying too hard to be a wise and hard master of painting over the internet.

>>1751343
if someone can't handle random people talking shit on the internet he shouldn't be here

>>1751343
I think they are insecure about their own work, no other reason to be like that.
They come here to argue if professionals are hacks, to shitpost, post into feel threads and to argue more over something trivial. Like on every other board (/ck/ is fine tho'), execept here they can attack personal works, which can be really harmfull for the community and new posters (like in that WIP thread).

>>1751351

/ck/ is slow full of nutritional bro science

>>1751349

You wouldn't constantly submit your artwork to chimpanzees for review if all they would do is shit on the painting and piss in each others mouths, would you? I don't think it was that the artist couldn't handle the heat, it's that the artist wasn't going to waste his/her time with us which was disappointing, some of us really wanted to see how it turned out :(.

>>1751354
Haven't lurked there in ages, so it's sad to hear. It was a great board.

>>1751349
why should the artist post more if he only gets that kind of comments? he probably moved on to a different website.

>>1742909
This takes me back.

>>1751126
>commissions
>not for commercial use
is that really a concern for you

HA HA time for lust penis!

>>1743711

dang where did you find these gems

>>1751602
omg this XD

>>1751602

Intriguing...
But highly disturbing...

>>1751602
>okay, poorly drawn and shit but whatever floats their boat. Everyone has their fetish--
>the robot part
>everything after that
>mfw

I tried doodling and realized how fucking horrible I am at drawing, like I am below deviantart tier, I am pretty sure kids in elementary school could kick my ass in drawing.

>>1751722
With that mindset you can never move forward. I haven't drawn in over a month, and when I finally picked up the pencil again I found that the whole idea of drawing was completely foreign to me.. despite having done it for years.

We'll both get through this, Anon, I'm damn sure of it.

>You will never have an art loli
http://exhentai.org/s/599059a2c0/706725-1

>>1746311

>>1752106
I was surprised that it's on the frontpage of dA. But then again considering the demographic of dA is not that unusual I guess.

>>1752106

learn anatomy or dont bother posting again

>>1742843
reminds me of this for some reason

>>1752131
seriously, there are some fucked up fetishes out there

>>1745989
That's a great beverage, anon.

>>1746311
Yaoi arms/hands.

>>1751120
>Hating Myria Pedron

Nah nigga. Nah.

>>1752084
Thank you, I will continue working on improving.

>>1743711
this is actually probably someone with schizophrenia tbh
the way they type things out implies it might be mild "word salad" and the content implies he or she is mentally disturbed in some way

>>1742853
so this guy draws the guys from rooster teeth (in crayon). the 6 members of AH are playing their favorite sonic game, when the "lads" (younger members) turn into diapers for no reason, then the older members of the group "the gents" dawn sonic, shadow and knuckles fursuits respectively. the put on the complaining diapers and begin to fuck each other, soon the diapers inflate with farts and the shadow gent gets hungry and eats all the diapers.

it was the most bizarre comic i've even had the displeasure of reading, and I hope the author didn't send it to AH as fan mail. because the poor bastards on that channel would probably quit.

>>1751291
The top right one is my favorite of all of them.

>>1752121

o u funni

>>1752298
What are you, a doctor now? Where's your degree? Man, fuck you Leelings or toomblr user nue or whoever you are

>>1752387
no it just happens to make more fucking sense than HEHEEHEHE AUTIST you stupid faggot

>>1743724
>>1743711

>>1742853
Tired of those pesky capchas? 4chan Pass™ is only $19.99 a year! That's only 1.66 sheck-I mean dollars a month!

>>1752412
man fuck you nigga you don't even know nothing
Like literally what do you know?

>>1752492

It doesn't take a doctor with 80k in student loan debt to recognize cues of mental illness.

There is such a thing as intelligence and knowledge outside of the credentials you worship.

>>1745981
He's a lazy shit who didnt finish the job

>>1743711
fucking SAUCE

>>1752596
None of that means anything if you don't have it on paper

>>1752924
In this context, it doesn't mean anything if you have it on paper, either.

>I learned how to use photoshop, I must have improved a lot!

>>1744654

A-are you jealous of the dogs?

>>1752967
Actually you have

>>1752967
lmao at first I thought she's eating that flower and the blossoms were raindrops.

Also in the second pic she's actually inhaling.

>captcha was unself

>>1744652
L-link?

Lets rag on college art students

>>1753086
Muh style

>>1753086
haha perfect muh style example
no hands, match shoes, no detail of any kind on the face

>>1753144
Is that bad

>>1743711
>>1743724
>>1743725
Where?

>>1753086
>tfw copics were used on this one

>>1753201
Must be the artist. Oh wait, don't have to worry about that. none of these people will ever come to /ic/ for improvement and trying to actually learn art, because muh style

Kiki, for your enjoyment

>>1753086
>>1753257
>>1753295

>tfw /ic/ noob artists draw better

>>1753086
>>1753257
>>1753295
>>1743169

So, judging by all these, do art teachers in college even care about your art level skill, or does it have more to do with how much money you have?

>>1753295
one arm south park Kiki

>>1753201
No, this is the true way to draw, you never let anyone tell you whats right and whats wrong, because they do not know how to FEEL when they draw how you draw.

Fuck what others say, only accept nice critics, because those are the only ones that matter.

Muh style is all that matters!

My dude thats my ghost oc is best oc, I WAS FIRST.

>>1753608
honestly I'm afraid to go to at school because I fear they might teach me allot paints and other shit that's irrelevant to me. I care more about anatomy proper building of a piece

>>1753295
http://indigostrawberry.deviantart.com/gallery/
is it bad if your older work is better than your new work

>>1742662

I sure won't. It's been four years, time to hang it up.