/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

what retarded shit are we going to argue about for 300 posts this time

>>1733511

That "flipping-my-hair-with-my-hand-while-adjusting-my-belt-with-my-other-hand" pose doesn't hide the fact that you are deathly afraid of drawing hands, which is limiting you to only draw stiff, unnatural, and convoluted poses.

>>1733529
left is showing two hands middle is showing two hands right originally had both hand sin front but tucked in to sleeves. Second pose I tried hand behind back. ( was attempting something a 'shy' pose) I feel the proportions are awkward. I'm trying to draw them youngish looking. I think I may change pose on the right so feet are together and both hands are in front and down clasped together sort of on his way towards a bow. I feel that left's legs may look wrong. What dose /ic / think?

camics

>>1733532
that's really good

reminds me of AgawaR

>>1733520
i feel you, hopefully my ego mans up and starts posting

>>1733520
>>1733546
Yeah I am tired of seeing these threads become nothing but walls of text we should post our drawings more often or as much as possible if that's what it takes to avoid 200 replies of text I don't care if I piss off a couple of Anons.

Postin' a couple of commishes from last weekend.

>>1733586
>>1733587
>>1733588
Your gettin' gud.

>>1733587
hawkgirl should get a movie over wonder woman, wonder woman already had a show and hawkgirl is more awesomer. although they keep fucking up her design by trying to take her helemt off or give her long hair coming out the back

>>1733588
>>1733587
>>1733586
I would ask for some hentai, then i remembered im unemployed. good stuff

>>1733587
>>1733588
>>1733586
Please tell me you get paid well. I've seen your stuff on here before and really like it. Do you have a deviantart/tumblr/ or something?

guys please help me with this I'm losin it. I just don't know how to face.
should I give it a more stylized animu look or a more realistic western face? and I'm lost on the expression

>>1733555
have you ever actually finished any of the pieces you've posted here?

>>1733821
No

>>1733555
So you got a readline and a pretty reasonable critique on the other thread yet you don't even
consider trying to correct any of your mistakes and just went ahead with your lineart.
Are you really asking for critique? because it seems like you just want to show your drawings.

>>1733845
of course not, he doesnt want to put that much effort into the troll, cmon now.

>>1733362

Question:

Can you dig it?

>>1733871
Her face features are out of place IMO.
>>1733550
His left arm is longer than his right arm.

>>1733876

yeah

>>1733790
Why do you make it sound like you either have to make it look like animu or you make it more realistic. There are plenty of ways to draw a very stylized face that isn't animu.

Help me guys. I suck at drawing legs (for not saying at everything), and connecting them to the torso.

Any advice?

>>1734010
Use a reference.

>>1734010

How would I go about shading this? Also I'm a bit stuck on what color the clothing should be compared to the hair

>>1733587
Hey you gave out your email once. I'm the anon (only anon?) that posts his comic pencils in these threads every once in a while. You've helped me before, and I'm starting to finally utilize opportunities as they present themselves to me to get better. I was wondering if I could get your email so we could communicate a bit on our work?

>>1734037
decide where the light would come from? face planes, clothing and other stuff and yeah

Hey guys, I have hand tremors. Its very difficult to overcome but I have with a pencil and can do 'aiight' with a nib inking. I was curious do you have any excercises, or things to print out and trace with a pen to build line/stroke confidence?

I know this is largely passe because of computers but I would like to be able to ink my own stuff. Thanks again!

>>1734080

100% serious:

Masturbate backhand with your dominant hand for a while, build up wrist strength for basically free.

There's old 1800's penmanship manuals on gutenberg I think too

>>1733965
Guys like Timm and Keane, were they influenced by anime or was Japan influenced by them?

>>1734101

animators are influenced by animators is the easiest way to put it. Basically, if, as a creator, you see something you like, regardless of whether or not you're aware of it, you will carry that with you and it will influence your work from that point on. since they're professional animators, there is without a doubt some form of Japanese animation they've seen, enjoyed, an in turn have taken influence from, just like many professional Japanese animators have seen their works an enjoyed an yaddayaddayadda

long answer short: yes. to both.

>>1733587
I'm the only one slightly bothered by her long biceps?

>>1734118
No but he doesnt listen so dont bother

hi there ic

>anime manga thread
oh yeh my time to shine

hows my work looking? im really diggin this style

currently working on this oc for a friend of mine

did i fucked up in some place?
i want to know before adding the line art

>>1734158
Can I see more, like your serious work where can I find it I want to see more of your stuff.

>>1734163
Report him when you see him, don't be a faggot and engage in the person trying to spearhead the derailment of these threads.

>>1734166
Why are you trying to censor him he is clearly drawing funny faces no different from Loomis's Fun with a Pencil and participating in the thread. Don't tell me he is the new Teal and we're starting a stop liking what I don't like fiasco all over again?

Honestly if you don't like him just ignore him and quit making a big deal about stuff you don't like.

>>1734170
Re: spearhead the derailment of these threads

Protip: It goes beyond his quaint little drawings.

>>1734134
Her head is too big and her ribcage isn't wide enough.

>>1734181
Do you ever draw anything besides stupid heads?

>>1734134
Dont skip out on proper construction bro, it fixes most problems.

The shape of the tits is wrong. You need that gap over the tits connecting to the arm, see bottom left of infograph.

The traps and shoulders aren't convincingly symmetrical.

Either the shoulders should be wider or the head/neck thinner.

With the mouth open you should draw in a tongue.

refreshed an old pencil drawing of mine in photoshop, what do you guys think?

>>1734217
Hidden feet and hands. Needs shading of some sort (there isn't any right now). Odd choice of cropping, you cut off the wings and the feet, but it doesn't exactly add anything to the composition by doing so.

>>1734219
well lots of my old drawings had hidded hands and feet and etc, I'm avoiding doing it these days.

>>1734221
If you're avoiding avoiding hands and feet (fucking double negatives) then just draw them in and finish the job.

Polishing old ass sketches is just stroking your art dick if you dont tackle your issues.

Does anyone have any foreshortening tutorials or tips out there? I can visualise and draw out a simple object in perspective, but the structure of the muscles just confuses me. DA seems to be full of bull..

>>1734294
hogarth's dynamic figure drawing

Quite an old one, what could I do to improve it?

Can I get a critique on whats wrong, and whether or not I should continue and shade this

>>1734313

Pretty much everything is wrong here. eyes and eyebrow are different sized and don't follow the place of the head, air looks like floppy goo, Nearly nonexistant arms and so on.

Go back to facial construction again. It's important to view and draw the face as a three dimensional object.

>>1734314
Thanks!

>>1734300

sycra's vid on that is pretty good too

>ib4 get out of here sycra

doing some wildstar lewd for /vg/

redlines appreciated

>>1734316
bobmeatbag stop posting on 4chan

>>1734319
isn't wildstar the game with absolutely horrifying and disgusting proportions?

>>1734326
the hands are so big :(

>>1734326
Not really. They have actually some extremely talented artists who worked on the art direction of their game. Most notably Disney concept artist Cory Loftis.

>>1734319
I'm not seeing any wildstar influence in this yet. Might wanna look into that as you go forward

>>1734330

you can't be fucking serious.

>>1734339
Why does the one on the left have four toes but the one on the right five?

>>1734330
The concept art looks great but it seems the player characters in-game can be twisted into different shapes and sizes and dressed up to look terrible.

>>1734339
Well, unlike you I'm an artist, so I don't actually care about video games apart from the concept art. I guess as always, the 3d modelers couldn't translate the artwork into the game engine very well.

>>1734363
you are shit.

>>1734359
>but the one on the right five?
I count 6 actually. It's a bit unclear though.

>>1734363
Oh, so you're an artist, so you care only about art and nothing else, so the fact that I care about video games makes me a "gamer"? How fucking narrow-minded. Fuck off.

>>1734378
>>1734363
So is this how we're going to start the 200 replies of nothing but arguments one after another? Post some drawings already.

>>>/v/

>>1734380
Mikufag shut the fuck up, you're probably one hell of annoying slut irl, nothing is helped by posting the same sentence all the time. There is no stopping the /ic/ shitstorm, but I agree that we should post drawings, so I will post what I'm working on.

Which is ironically vidya-themed. Hue.

You're all fucking horrible.

>>1734390
This is where we keep the broken toys.

I feel like I should say, " u mad?" or something when I post theses. I mean somebody is clearly upset with me not dancing to their song.

>>1734489
I asked you a while back where can I see more of your stuff? Quit playing hard to get.

>>1734490
This is the place. Search the archives for the old stuff.

>>1734489

>waaah my posts are getting deleted

>>1734489
>u mad
what are you 12? grow up.

>>1734497
>>1734493

>>1733876
looks a bit like something from Ping Pong The Animation, or Tekkonkinkreet a bit, i can dig.

>>1734359
>>1734367
Because females have always 4 and males 6 toes.
l2anatomy, faggits

>>1733790

I get paid adequately. I could charge more than I do, but the quality of my sketches can be inconsistent, so I don't charge as much as I should not to disappoint clients. If I were more consistent in quality, then I could charge 2-3x. I've never really gotten any complaints, but I've put some dogs out there.

As for the pic, you're going with a more naturalistic style, so I'd keep it in that direction. If you're having trouble with the face, figure out what expression or emotion you want her to convey and look up reference for it if you're having trouble. If you can't find the face you want her to make, or are having trouble with the muscles of the face making the expression, look in the mirror and make the face. See what happens to the jaw, the chin, cheeks, eyes, etc.

One problem I'm seeing with the eyes is that they're kinda goofy, not shaped the same. One looks kind of Asian and the other White. Change one to the other and see how it works out.

>>1734119

It's not that I don't listen, it's that there is literally nothing that can be changed to the piece since it's no longer in my possession. And most of the time the drawings are done, I'm not going to go back and retread over old territory. All I can do is carry whatever criticisms or concerns into the next sketch.

I have gotten criticisms about my women's hips being too narrow, I try to keep it in mind now, but I'm not going to go wild like Kyle with the big butts. I don't like big butts, I cannot lie. ;)

>>1734334
thanks, will do

Been burnt out lately, but I'm trying to finish this

>>1734592
Draw with your shoulder, your lines look like porn from the 70's.

i don't know whether to be disappointed or satisfied but this was my first time using SAI.

SAI definitely isn't photoshop.

>>1734605

>>1734057 here. Not giving your email out anymore? I completely understand if not.

Hnevas sa?

What's with all the posts with "deleted" on them?

>>1734644
Sorry, missed the post first time around. Contact me if you wish, warning though, my time is limited and I'm not exactly punctual on responses, or my deadlines. :D

If this is the Barbarian and Queen person, I don't know what more I can tell you that I haven't already: work on your environments, look at different styles of architecture, castles, gothic churches, Greek and Roman ruins.

Learn how to firmly establish your characters in that space, either by learning enough perspective, or through enough observation that you can pull off a reasonable facsimile.

>>1734678
>If this is the Barbarian and Queen person...

Maybe? Here's an old pic that might jog your memory?

>>1734681
Oh, totally different person, my bad. I remember doing a redline for this. Think you had a couple of pages.

>>1734330
Yeah, the proportions are quite skewed to the cartoony side. I only played the beta one day and quit when they had me picking up wood for an NPC. Isn't this supposed to be a Sci-Fi MMO?

I do really like Artemis Zin's outfit though, and the emote that has a little bounce in it.

>>1734683
Yeah I remember those too. I'm just ready to use every available opportunity to get out of mediocrity and do what I love for a living. So I may email you to poke your brain about pencil techniques and other stuff.

I shit the bed on the whole comic a week thing, but I'm trying out animation now, it's pretty fun.

I dont know the best place to ask this but maybe here
I need to get a portfolio ready for some possible work at cartoon network and I dont know what to put in there at all
Should it be mostly cartoon drawings or should I be showing of my actual skill level as far as painting and life drawings?
Is fanart something you can even put into a portfolio or is it a really bad idea? Ive got some really nice pieces but im not sure if it should be only original characters.

>>1734795
best image in the thread

>>1734795
seriously man, you should start a children's book

i love John Kricfalusi

>>1734795
CHING CHONG NIP NOP FONG

>>1734326
Still cooler than the rest of the MORPG shit
At least they try to be somewhat different

>>1734861
Compared to wow maybe but compared to things like blade and soul or ffxiv, not even close. I can't even take any character seriously, they look like cartoons for kids with bad art direction.

>>1734862
>ffxiv
Nigga what
The art of this pieceofshit is the most boring fuckery I've ever seen. "Iz pwetty and photorrealizm, so it must be awsum" fucking YAWN. I'll take the bad cartoon over that boring schlock anytime.

>>1734841
That looks more like Danny Antonucci

>>1734861
>>1734862

You've got to be kidding me, right? Firstly, WoW was the first legit MMORPG, and it was unique as fuck at that time, before everyone started copying it. Secondly "le unique races le half-furries so unique so not boring human", come on, guys. And besides the ones >>1734862 mentioned, there's also Tera (their races and armor are fantastic) and you do know that the new WoW release WoD has updated models right? Picture is a screenshot of a private WoW TBC server (the second release), and please tell me that this isn't unique even for today's standards.

>>1734906
>WoW was the first legit MMORPG

Oh man, I hope you're trolling. But in reality you're probably just way too young to know any better.

First time posting on /ic/.

I've been drawing for about 4 years, huge gaps here and there. I used to have a 'style' when I was a shitty starter, but now I'm kind of wandering between many styles. I'd see a style I like and I'll go 'Hey I want to try that', and then it kinda sticks with me.

Well, there's some bad intro, and here's one of the most recent sketch I drew. I haven't drawn a full drawing for such a long time.

>>1734911

Also, do most people here know each other or is it just pop in, pop out, hello, goodbye kind of thread?

>>1734908
sorry, I should have chosen different wording. It was one of the first successful MMORPGs, so everyone started copying it

>>1734915
Most people know each other but there are also some people that don't try to be known or just don't post that often. Welcome, by the way.

>>1734918
>It was one of the first successful MMORPGs,

no

>>1734921

Ah alright. Thanks for the welcome.

>>1734918
> It was one of the first successful MMORPGs
WoW, at its release, was more of a next-gen mmorpg than anything else.

The first successful mmorpgs were Meridian 59 and Ultima Online in 95 and 97. And then there was Everquest in 98, which for the first time in mmorpg history had millions of subscribers. Lineage (98) was also very successful as was Asheron's Call (99).
Blizzard then came along and took the best aspects of these mmorpgs and merged them to create WoW. If you should ever play Everquest you'll notice how similar the gameplay is.

>>1734929
we /v/ now.

>>1734174
>>1734187
shit, the thread was dead when i posted this and i finished it whitout looking at your replies

also thanks a lot with the tits reference, that shits dope and i need it a lot

So my goal is to draw mango but I am well aware that one has to go the classic way of learning real human anatomy and etc. and I am willing to do that. But I am also still impatient and would like to be able to contribute at least something.

So my question is: is it possible to learn to draw cute animu girls from memory in a short time like a month? Nothing complicated, static poses like standing straight, no or very simple shading and no color. And how would I go about learning that? Get one of those "how to draw manga" books?

>>1735338

Not in a month, no

But I guess the faster you develop an intuitive understanding of linear perspective, space, volume and form the sooner you can move on to figure drawing

Get Scott Roberston's How to Draw if you have the money

You can't cook up nuance and taste in a month either.

How to hatch? How to clean linework?

Do the legs ''work'' or am I just over thinking?

>>1734911

Welcome,

I like the rougness in your piece and the face has a nice depth.

But I do think the head is too big for such a small body.

Your line work also seems to have a nice weight but it works beter in some places than others.(for example it's nice on the face and hair but seems different/off on the body and wings)

my 2 cents.

On a side note, is there supposed to be a part of a ear viable at the beginning of the horn or is it part of the horn?

>>1735371
Red's hair is way more alive

>>1735342
>Get Scott Roberston's How to Draw if you have the money

Isn't it about objects and environments?

>You can't cook up nuance and taste in a month either.

Well I think I have pretty high standards and can often see right away if the proportions or the perspective is off (but I couldn't correct them). Or is that different than having taste for your own work?

>>1735371
If by 'work' you mean 'utterly and wholly fucked' then they work just fine

>>1735371
wtf is up with that curve on the tibia

>>1735374

Thanks, i'll try to work on it.

>>1735371
Also her right leg is like twice the size her left is also that's really an unnatural pose - the legs seem tense despite the rest of her body seeming calm.

>>1735379
>I like to read doujins and look at hentai, i also can tell when something's off, but I can't tell what. I can somewhat draw, but I'm impatient, I want to draw my own animu porn in a month, help guise.

just commission a real artist, you piece of shit. Most people here practice years and years and you come in here thinking that it can be done in a month if you have "high standards". Just leave.

>>1735383
>>1735386

Ty, both of you. looks like I wasnt over thinking.

>>1735388
Why are you getting so mad? I never said that I want to be able to draw that well in a month. I just said low detail drawings with no complicated poses, shading or color.

>>1735398
yeah, no

Finished shading that thing from before

Fuck forgot image

i've been staring at this for the past hour, flipped it horizontally but the pose still looks off somehow

a red/(green?) line would be appreciated ;_;

>>1735371
is she supposed to be cross legged?

Critiques and suggestions are welcome as always.

Suggestions and critiques are more than welcome.

>>1735521
it's nice but her lower face makes it sort of look like she's wearing a mask or facepaint or something
too evenly bright, especially on her right side

>>1735698

No, she's not. But thanks for the redline tho.

>>1735521

I did a little bit of a paintover. Your lines are way too thick. Use a smaller brush first, try learning about line weight and try some variation in the thickness where for example the light is hitting versus where it is not. The uniform thickness in your lines also makes your image look flat, even with rendering.

The other issue is the neck down. The neck is too long and the slouch of the shoulders is too steep. The collar bones are also inverse to the way you drew them here and furthermore wouldn't be visible to begin with.

it's not a bad drawing overall, I think the face is appealing, and the rendering is on the right track. Anyway I hope that is enough to think about for now, good luck!

>>1735521
neck is turned the wrong way and shoulders are waaay too wide other wise I like it

>>1735703
Arm/elbow seems awkward, and I feel like we should see more of the deltoid on the arm that's coming forward

>>1735622
I think it may be a bit too stiff. Try to give her some attitude. Relaxed? Pissed off? Trying to arouse someone? Etc. The body should follow.

Can I please get a red line. I sketche dthis out on the computer and it didn't seem to be wonky but when I went to canvas for some reason the anatomy is bothering me and I'm not sure what to fix. Red line would be much appreciated.

>>1735975

>>1734010
Go grind some people dancing. And by grind, I mean gesture/studies

>>1734132
Absolutely horrid

>>1733532
F-fandangler?

>>1735367
I like this- Try getting a scanner and use a digital program to go over it.

guys.

Im doing a lot of poses. I mean, Im doing simulationusly cuple of poses. Is this bad thing to do or not ? should I focus on finnishing one and then move on or can i switch when i want.

>>1734643
why is the top of her head on fire

>>1735975

D-did I do okay? First time using Illustrator for anything.

I do not enjoy Illustrator

>>1736061
All it needs now is a cute Animu girl in panzer uniform, get to it motherfucker.

>>1736031
>>1736000
clever assholes

>>1736031
This movie was so good.

>>1736063
alrighty...

WIP

this is kind of a big project. i need to center the perspective because nothing looks right.

Do you guys use the stabilizer for inking?

>>1735975
The biggest issue is the perspective. The figure looks floaty as a result. My paintover is pretty inaccurate, but hopefully it'll help you see what needs to be adjusted.
Also, get reference for the hands and feet.

>>1736107
No.

>>1736113
It's just hard to use your arm to draw on a 4x5 tablet.

>>1736114
There's a reason why at least medium-sized tablets are recommended.

Also,
>using your wrist for drawing
Enjoy your injuries.

>>1736114
I use a small Intuos it's no big deal.

>>1736115
>>1736117
I still use my arm to draw. I'll just practice some more.

>>1736121
i have a large and im drawing from wrist lel.

>>1735704
Thanks a lot

>>1735975
duuuude learn your fundies

>>1736153

>>1736171
wowoowowowow
youre so fuckinbg amazing

I just got a Huion 610, it works great but occasionally the cursor lags behind the tip and takes a bit to catch up. Is it because the battery is getting bad, or something else?

Damn I'm so rusty.

Kind of a reverse redline, but can someone explain how these construction lines work?

>>1736031

Now i have to watch this shit for 20th time.

>>1736110
>>1736153
Thank you two very much- I'll try and adjust the perspective as to not be so severe.

>>1736171
>>1736192
Kek. Thx Nice knowing I have such dedicated fans ;3

>>1736214
Nice, but those are some itty bitty feet. Remember the length of the foot is the same as the inside of the forearm. You can make them smaller to make them cute or whatever, but they still need to be able to walk on them. Also where the legs meet the body seems weird, maybe get some reference for that.

drawing in Illustrator is painful

Work in Progress

>>1736110
Thanks gonna go with these changes because they fit much nicer

>>1736257
in a way is better practice though

Hope I didn't skip one

>>1736153
Knowing why drew it, that's probably a dude even though it looks so much like a girl

>>1736302 please go away, you are creeping me out

How I reach this level? I mean, his artist have the style I want. Semi realistic. What's a good semirealistic artist to study so I can reach my goal?

>>1736413
Also, another drawing from her/him. Man, how I wish I could draw like this.

>>1733388
is it emotional enough?

>>1736413
I think it's more learning to draw realistically - so studying anatomy, gestures, drapery, values, lighting, ... - and then simplifying. This is gonna take a lot of hard work, mate.
You might like Leyendecker. Completely different style, but he also has very accurate simplification in his paintings.

>>1736421
did the ice king die in the cartoon?

>>1736424
Thanks for the feedback anon. I'll keep studying loomis and anatomy. If you don't mind me asking, can you recommend some artist that "teaches" (not exactly a tutorial) about how paint like Leyendecker or this artist?

>>1736421
Mouth needs work looks a bit odd to me.

>>1736421
Whats with the face?

>>1736219
is this some kind of deja vu?
Pretty sure someone/you asked this some months ago.
Or is this becoming a running joke?
I haven't been here in a while so can't say.

>>1736428
nope, he didnt.

>>1736421
how do you do those cloud things? did you use some type of specific brush or something?

>>1736421
the crown look like flat cardboard

>>1736459
Nope, it's me again. Didn't get much of an answer last time, hoping for a bit better this time.

fan art

>>1736261
there are many things wrong with that krink

>>1736636
very nice

wowowoowowow
youre so fucking good

>>1736669
thanks

>>1736669
Thanks.

>>1736669
wow thanks

>>1736669
thanks

>>1736669
thanks nigger

>>1736636

>>1736639
ah yes indeed, you're correct

>>1735521
Same guy who made this here, took a few pointers (using smaller brush, shortening neck, less slouch)

Any pointers before I start shading it?

>>1736850
Figure's a bit unbalanced, maybe if you just rotate it ccw slightly it might look better.

i have extremly hard time understanding bend forward poses, wat do ?

have a doodle /ic/

Why is it that you love a piece after you finish the night before and are proud of it but then you hate it the next morning?

>>1737081
because you looked at it too much to see little problems you wouldn't notice otherwise. basically, you pass from the state of drawing to spectating if I may say it like that, it's a fresh view on it. that's why you should flip the canvas horizontally sometimes, you will see your mistakes immediatly. press H in sai if you're working on it.

>>1737081
>>1737090
This is pretty much the reason why many artists, especially abstract ones, leave their paintings lying around unfinished so they can observe them daily and see ways to change/improve them.

>>1737095
>especially abstract ones

whats to change in abstract painting its just dots and shit theres no right or wrong there.

>>1737098
Lol, ok pleb.

>>1737081
The eyes are looking in different directions m8. Also working continuously is not a good idea, either switch between different projects (if you are good at multitasking), or take breaks in between. It helps spotting mistakes and allowing you to expand on them.

>>1737098
the colors may be off, or whatever message the artists wants to express isn't properly showing.

>>1737098
Tell that to Gerhard Richter. In a way abstract is more difficult to get right, you have to go more for feeling and composition than non-abstract. You have nothing to compare it to really

wip
things to do:
fix face
fix colours

Posting chickenscratch.

Yes, I realize the neck on the guy on right is a bit wonky, and his left hand is *way* off.

inb4headistoofuckinghuge

Props to anon if they know who these characters are from.

>>1737210
filename

>>1737210
that fucking leg gap holy shit

>>1737220
why is he even having his arm this straight the pose has no sence, make him put them in pockets or something. Oh i think you wanted to go for a "buffed" pose like strong guy or something ? either way its not working like this.

What do you guys think of muh style?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUwGMSzhcg

You still having trouble with that makeup for the convention?

Beginner here
I've been practicing (gestures, studies) and drawing whenever I could for 2 weeks but my shit is still terrible. It's making me frustrated, when will I get gud?

>>1737354
>It's making me frustrated, when will I get gud?

Good. The frustration means you are outside of your comfort zones and doing things you have not done before hence why your shit is terrible now but keep at it for months and months until finally you will have an approach to drawing and an understanding.

Patience. This will take years.

>>1737355
>years
Seriously, with discipline and a critical mindset, it should only take a few months to "geet guud" From there you fly on your own.

>>1737362
>it should only take a few months to "geet guud" From there you fly on your own.
Definitely not, dude. Unless your standards are really low

>>1737418
Thats a huge dildo
Would play with it/10

>>1737418
Still really cute. Would like to see more.

>>1737354
You'll never git gud. You will see your own art as shit till the day you die.

At the very least 4 years to make anything decent though.

>>1737081
I don't know what you're doing with the colour in her eyes, but it looks really weird.

>>1737422

Thanks
Here's my tumblr
http://ruri-b.tumblr.com

heads

Where is this guy now?

>>1733388
Been awhile since i drew anything. I needed a break. How did I do?

>>1737497
Are you trying to piss someone off on purpose? At least make it easier for someone to see. My only complaint is that the staff is not in perspective.

>>1737500
guess the gamma adjustment is different on my monitor... my bad

>>1736421
this is sad. is the Ice King dead? also add more shadows to the crown and her foot looks a little skewed.

>>1737465
jail

>>1737521

>>1736739
Sinbad needs to be browner.

I recently started to get serious about improving. I'm pretty bad and it's shit but how do you guys feel about my gestures? These are from imagination.

>>1737465
I have a deleted tumblr in my tabs and I thenk it him, did he got banned? Does tumblr even allows loli officialy?

>>1737621
Tumblr doesn't care, the worst that'll happen is that you'll get flagged as nsfw and not show up in tags

Should I finish this? lol

>>1737696
Terrible taste

>>1737703
I've never actually even seen the show. I have a con in two weeks and I'm pumping out mainstream shit.
Plus I love J.B.A.

>>1737696
how do you draw such a nice lines?

>>1737710
By drawing in a high enough res that no one notices how sloppy my drawing actually is.

some more practice animooting with the azdraw program. trying to go for a cute sporadic run for this spastic retard girl. pretty much just going straight a head with it.
shits hard manye

>>1737723
wait, what program are you using?

>>1737713
it's the key to a lot of good drawings

this is a good example.
next post will be closeup

>>1737696
i like the line art and the pose but i don't know, it took me a while to figure out that she's actually pointing towards the camera. also fix a the mouth a bit.

>>1737729
i actually zoomed out a bit of the original size in the close up.

for the full pic see:

http://ricochet188.deviantart.com/art/Why-Not-This-One-350235105

>>1737723
fix the arm movements a bit, she looks like that running titan.

>>1737729
i like this style. what program are you using?
also maybe you should lessen the reflections on that shadow person guy. looks a bit messy,

>>1737736
just some random guy posting this pic. not the artist.

see:>>1737731

>>1737713
How big is it? And what's the pixel res?

>>1737521
>>1737465
>loli
>dat curves
she is not a loli, fags. Know the difference

>>1737773
The term loli is so vague that people would argue the whole thread about it but i think are right, she looks like a high school girl with flat chest.

>>1737203
I fucking love it m8, great to see someone working on backgrounds instead of having their animus floating in white space. She looks like she's been hitting the gym too much though.

>>1737786
Dude, there's no such thing as hitting the gym too hard!

Unless you look like pic related

>>1737787
That's fucking nasty man.
I do like muscular girls but the main problem is the dissonance with her facial features. Would probably look better if her facial features were slightly more angular.

>>1737794

We've told rinfag that until our throats were hoarse

>>1737418
This is fascinating

>>1737731
>>1737729
>>1737713
How much RAM do I need to comfortably work at such high resolutions?
I recently upgraded to 8 and it still gets pretty slow, esp. with big brushes.

>>1737801
8gb

>>1737818
That's how much I have but I also have a nvidia 560ti graphics card so I don't know how much that factors into it.

>>1737723
kyle-sama ?

>>1737729
so how much resolution is high enought that will let me cheat on the viewer ?

>>1737801
Depends on the software.

Photoshop eats up a lot, but if you work with smaller brushes it should be fine.

i made this last night trying a view from below. its my first time trying something like this, so i didn't expect much, but in my opinion it turned out well. is it bad? good?

>>1737882
there is a worrying lack of fundamentals, but good attempt tho.

Check out the sticky

>>1737882
that is very good
i wish i could draw as well as you

>>1737882

>>1737908
this makes me laugh every time. RIP perspective

>>1737908
will this ever stop?

>>1737797
I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
studying real faces only somehow pushed it towards the opposite direction even more...

trying my best with the ~2 hour of free time i have everyday :(

>>1737908
You can have the colored version if you like saving my stuff.


I finally figured out what was wrong- The adults upper half is completely off.

>>1737940
Not just his upper half, hon.

...So, you get commissioned by people? Like, real life money?

>>1737939

>>1737940
The girl would reach about to the man's waist if they were standing side-by-side. Is she a child? If so, remember children aren't just shrunken adults, they have different proportions.

Also, pillow-shading everywhere.

>>1737939
>studying real faces only somehow pushed it towards the opposite direction even more...
it'll take time.
you also need to actually apply the stuff you learn. this is where stylelization comses into play. you don't need to draw every realistic feature of the face you just need to know them better. your knowledge will usually shine through.

just look at >>1737794 and compare your faces with that or any other artist. yours looks like a mask while better artists make faces where you can imagine it moving.

here's what you can try: draw a face that expresses itself. draw a face that moves. if you need to, look at other artists for pointers.

>>1737944
Yes.

>>1737951
Then I have a chance!

>>1737947
I dont plan on fixing this image; I will how ever try and keep in mind your advice ( as wlel as others who have helped me) for the final image to that commissioned set.

I've been playing around with more 'childish' proportions as of late.

>>1737965

>>1737945
I've gone through these videos about twice already. I think it's about time I give them a third round

can't find the one i did for heads so have the on on lower body instead I'M REALLY TRYING OKAY

>>1737465
post more his stuff

>>1737947
>girl

>>1737969

dammit rinfag if you can do all that with legs why can't you with the face/head

>>1737730
It'll probably be a bit better once I draw in the hand? Haha. I'll see what I can do about the mouth; I'm not used to using a lot of expression, much less overexaggerated expression.

>>1737801
Man I have 4gb and a shitty graphics card. The pain is real. I can't wait to get a PC.

>>1737749
I'm printing it out as 11x17, so I usually work at 400 DPI for cell shading and thick lineart, then 600 DPI for painting. I think the example I posted is only at 300DPI atm though, because I was sending it with a bunch of other WIP files of similar size.

>>1737465
Heh, so someone saved those.
I've been procrastinating and lurking for the past 5 months.

>>1736219
the first vertical lines go to the horizon vanishing point. Simple stuff. When you do horizontal on the ground you do it to work out scale within perspective. But does it have to be against the ground? No. The horizontal lines here are on a projected plane to show the scale of the picture. If you had a man on the ground, how the man would scale when you move him on the plane, that's the point of the plane. The second vertical lines that do not go towards to horizon vanishing point belong to the projected plane. They have their own vanishing point just like two-point perspective. The point is roughly located on the center line of the plane that originates at some point between you and the horizontal vanishing point, where if you move sideways you will get perspective distortion on the cubes. I don't think there's any guidelines for figuring out exactly where the vertical vanishing point would be, you just have to feel it out, while keeping in mind that the lines will curve differently with different lenses. Curving them slightly in like the pic or even more will push the effect of being tiny among big things effectively.

how do you draw from your shoulder? i've always drawn from my wrist.

>>1738015

Work bigger, like on a 18x24 inch pad, you'll have no choice but to move your entire arm.

>>1737696

Fix her Jojo hat.

>>1738018
Yeah, I had a lot of problem with that and ended up just throwing one on. An suggestions?

>>1738021

Just flair out the back of the hat so it looks like hair. Use a ref.

>>1738022
Ah, I missed that. Thanks a bunch.

>>1738022

Forgot to add, make it oversized too.

>>1738006
Hobby people don't really work for print, so saying 300 DPI doesn't say too much. Fuck imperial, anyway.

I would say 3000x3000 or is a good res to work at, i used to use around that res for a long time. Now though with a ridiculous pc i work in 9600x5400 which is five times 1920x1080. On the other hand the file size difference is something like x20. working sub 1k is also good when sketching and roughing out work, lower file size and more uniform lines help. You can always scale up and add detail, but never the other way around.

>>1737908
it looks wrong but i cant pinpoint it

>>1738031
perspective is unrealistic, might as well be an isometric illustration

>>1737203

Man I've been away for a while but it seems like even though you've improved you're still tacking on loli faces to your toned bods. Like, is this your thing or are you legitimately having trouble with a more adult face? You need to make the head overall more narrow, with a buff body like that make sure the chin is a bit more angular/pronounced but not too much or it'll start to look like a guy. Also those eyes need to be smaller, overall you want the face to learn less towards cute and more towards sexy. Look up mango characters with similar proportions to what you're after and use them as referece. Perhaps something like Motoko from GITS.

>>1738028
>Hobby people don't really work for print
What can I say, my hobby is tricking people into spending ridiculous amounts of money for shitty art.
(On a serious note, I apologize, I read pixel resolution as image resolution.)

This guy has got it pretty solid tough; it's pretty close to what I do. The Mako is 4400x6800, and I sketched it in 1100x1700. I just have some crummy laptop though, so I couldn't even imagine working up to the 9000s.

>>1738043
>tricking people into spending ridiculous amounts of money for shitty art.

>>1738044
It's not a bad hobby. You should try it. I'd never make it in the real art industry, but I can pull a solid 1k-2k in a weekend while getting to enjoy a chinese cartoon convention.

>>1738045
Show me the way of the Sheckel, oh wise hand rubber.

>>1738047
1. Find a nearby convention (to your style; if you draw animoots, go to an anime con. If you draw western stuff, go to a comic con. Use common sense.)
The higher ratio of attendees to vendors the better. You want to avoid the hugest conventions if you're just starting out due to the large amounts of competition. If you go to a small con, it's much easier to stand out as the best.
2. Have massive amounts of shat out fanart, and you can include some well drawn original stuff as well. There's an audience for both. (There might be restrictions, depending on where you live. A convention with fanart restrictions is more likely to value original works, while one without it's really hard to survive without fanart).
3. Be cute/attractive and or approachable.
4. Show up, set up an obnoxiously large display to drown out people beside you.
5. Sit there for hours while people hand you money for prints you printed out for 50c a piece.

>>1738050
can i bring friend who is not as qt as me but is good with people ?

>>1738050
>Be cute/attractive and or approachable.
Well, shit...

>>1738053
read or watch Genshiken, figit

>>1738054
One or the other is kind of important. There are amazing artists I've seen and heard of that don't do well because people are literally intimidated to walk up to them, feel like they're bothering them, etc. On the other hand, I know some people that are so attractive that people buy stuff just to be able to start a conversation with them.
You can try without either, but you wouldn't be able to capitalize off of it as well.

>>1738053
Yeah, you can have up to two helpers. You don't even have to pay them most of the time if they're interested in the convention subject, because it's basically giving them a free pass to the con, and they can rotate shifts.

>>1738054
Shave, shower, haircut, new clothes. This will make anyone approachable.

If you don't live near a con like 95% of people in the world just go do porn

>>1738058
Am I doing it right?

>>1738043
I'd like to see what the goyim have bought
off you and for how much.

>>1738069
I post in here a lot, but with huge time gaps in between, so you've probably seen some of my stuff if you've stuck around.
I'm working on the Mako above, obviously. I did the painterly-Asuka style a while back with a thousand layers. I drew the Ahri with her hands in a heart shape, and Shimakaze in a life buoy.
I sell 18x24" prints for $25 (cost me $2 each to print), 11x17" prints for $13 (cost me 75c to print), and 8.5x11" prints for $8 (cost me 40c to print). I also sell iPhone cases for $15 (I get them made in China a buck a pop.)

>>1738070
you sure know your ways jewmaster.

>>1738063
not the same anon you're addressing, But i see potential anon. Good work.

>>1738063
no get gud

>>1738058
>>1738063
Oh... oh... I thought he meant do actual porn. Like not drawing.
Well this is awkward.

>>1738090
Go back to sleep, Anon.

>>1738092
Okay.

>>1736011
yeee buddy

>>1738088
>>1738087
>>1738063
>>1738090
I'm trying to learn what values technically are atm and how to set a mood with tones and colors. I'm not very good at shading but I'm trying to learn to render.

I'm not sure if I'm making progress yet

>>1738090
i did mean draw porn. the secret is lots of dicks.

>>1737940

It's like people haven't been telling you the same shit over and over. But you don't seem to listen do you?

>>1738119
No.

Does anyone have a working link to Azdrawing? I keep finding dead links.
Is there any other programs that are fun to mess around with?

still learning with SAI

gonna try out some environmental studies. i like how you don't need to mess with opacity to start blending.

>>1737908
now you're just trolling.

New Thread:

>>1738270
>>1738270
>>1738270

>>1738279
why do you keep doing faces?

>>1738279

You should make a gif or a video of those faces after your done drawing them.

>>1738119
I oftentimes wonder if you're just some elaborate troll because you keep drawing crap and don't take any of the advice given to you.