/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1709954
Op, what is going on in the background?

>>1709962
Nothing yet in the pic, but I think I'm gonna put a sort of tomb door similar to the slanted cellar doors..

WIP can I get some opinions?

working on darkening the lips right now.

3 studies from the hobbit:desolation of smaug movie

>>1709969
That jawline is strong enough to kill a man. Study facial structure, and look and noses and mouths when drawing them instead of drawing what you think they look like.

It's nothing special, but damn, I've been drawing so much anime and references, this feels really nice.

Any tips? My next focus is on colour and composition.

Working on a character design. I usually have trouble finishing things but I've stuck this through so far..

>>1709974

Love the first two, your edges are pristine. The third one is the worst, the drapery definitely falls flat. To me the brushstrokes are too apparent, but it's a study so I'm not gonna pick at it.

>>1709954

i like it! you should keep working on it. im too chickenshit to tell you on permanoobs so i just tell you here. ok? ok.

>>1709996
The whole colour world seems a bit too tepid and an eye doesn't catch the light what's coming from right. Hair could use some features of locks.

Continued it a bit, I'll dump it here too.

>>1710000
D'oh thanks! heres what i got done tonight.

I'm tired but I should continue.

>>1710022

I drew a bee dragon

>>1709694
What's this book called again. I've seen it before

I'm just learning how to work with a tablet, so this was just a test. I rarely have the focus to finish painting my work as I've spent most of my life on drawings/watercolor instead. And typically jump to one new project to another leaving a lot unfinished. Was it normal for you to only use one brush when you guys started out too? I just can't seem to be able to work well with any of my brushes. Or is that something practice will smooth out as I go?

>>1710031
If you're just learning, don't sweat anything. Just experiment at your own pace, but also try and consistently challenge yourself.

Spread thine tendrils into your creative cortex and TWIST and SQUEEZE

>>1710033
Thanks! I'll keep at it then!

>>1710025
looks like a badass mofokin neopet. :)

mah latest turd

going to start colouring this.

>>1709954
>cghub.com/scripts/category/brushes-1/
First post have to be changed.

What could I do to make the composition better?

>>1710091
it has no focal point m8, main point of a composition is to lead to a focal point

>Want to try using a pen brush
>Only one i can buy is a shitty one that costs $30 because it has 'Manga' plastered on it
Kill me now.

>>1710091
thumbnail looks disturbing

>>1710103
cannot unsee

>>1710096

Better? Anything i should change before i start painting?

practicing getting a likeness quickly while still trying to focus on construction

>>1710141
ref

thanks to anyone who replies

>>1710141
oh and also i know the ear is beyond terrible, I forgot to come back to it before snapping the pic, please try to focus on the rest of the drawing, lol

>>1710025

noice.

i have a book that suggested drawing dragon concepts merged with different creatures and elements. was this inspired by something like that?

>>1710058
small update. playing around with colours

>>1710020

I did something inspired by your piece.
No worries i won't upload this shit anywhere :)

>>1710165
It is nice that you're playing around with the colours, but it's really important to see them in context.
The neon purple/pink mushrooms look horrible with earthy tones of the creature and the background.
I would suggest something warmer, like orange or red.
I really like the monochrome drawing, tho.
it's really cool

>>1710057
>turd

very funny.

>>1710165
Okay same guy as >>1710202

I dumped both your sketch and your colors into photoshop and played around with some blending modes and adjustment layers

And here's what I got
It might not help your drawing much, but i hope it can be used for inspiration :)

>>1710189
The thumb has a very Tarzan-y feel..
It seems strange to me that the pale girls bra follows her back inward at the spine. It also looks like the tanned girl is missing some toes on her left foot
anyway, nice drawing, keep going :3

>>1710112
you could put some small birds in there to break the big plane of the sky a bit, og maybe a big flying monster in the distance..
Or maybe just keep it simple if thats what you feel like

>>1710141
the eyes in your drawing looks a bit more open the in the ref.
otherwise you succeeded nicely

>>1710141
>>1710057
nice
>>1710020
promising
>>1710189
If this is going in the frazetta direction I cant wait

mine: fashion girl from ref

>>1710215
>>1710202
Thanks for the feedback.

Im trying to go for a more unusual way and see where it leads me.

as for the previous color pallet I tried to use the triangle color harmonics.

>>1710226
less is more

>>1710246
>>1710226
you mean I should simplify more, or draw less...? or draw girls with smaller hats...
or do you mean I went overboard with the dots and spots on the blouse: like theres too many things to focus on?

either way thx for input.


heres the ref btw:

guys how do I handle difficult poses.
-lying down with an unusual angle
-foreshortening poses

I need to get gut with it because Im going to draw porn and that kind of poses are required. When I try to practise them I never can do them right im lost.

>>1710253
for starters get a bigger ref
simplify the detail in the same way you simplified the color and value masses, right now there's too much clusteruck in the ornamentation. Begin a new study, leave this one as an example.

WIP, almost done.

Working on this oil painting. It's in the beginning stages, I have two more sessions with the modle.

>>1710277
really badass, shame all those nice marks aren't paint :/

Finished in under 4 hours, what do you guys think?

>>1710277

brushes are fucking awesome, post them nao!

>>1710271
thx!

>>1710282
Your technical skill is almost professional, but the painting lacks a story. We have someone walking, you cann guess his emotions, but where is he heading? Or is he walking away from something? I can't find a clue. Te shape designs provokes fear, maybe a metaphorical shadow of his fears on the wall behind him would be cool? Or he has a long way to go but he's tired, so have the goal of his journey way in front of him. Sorry if this sounds like deep shit but if you don't have a strong story people are just going to look at it for 5 seconds and say "it's cool".

>>1710232
i was gonna critique the fact that a cute pup with shrooms on its back isnt that good of a design and i would have gone for something like a frog etc UNTIL i realized it may be a porcupine and it'd be a nice idea to have shrooms instead of quills

>>1710282
best in fred.

Anatomy revision. Does it look any realistic?

Be honest, what you think about my current blending abilities? I'm learning to use tablet, it was fun. Using paint tool sai.

>>1710304 show something bigger, cant judge from a blob

>>1710281
>>1710283

Thanks folks. I've been searching for good brushes that have a strong sense of stroke and that emulate oil paint really naturally.

I use the brushes in the set below. You'll have to play with each one to see how they feel, and mess with the 'flow' a bit.

http://www.marcsimonetti.com/images/illustrations/Marc_Simonetti_Painting_brushes.zip

>>1710300
No, the proportions are too off. Work on your fundamentals.

is this how thumbs are made?

>>1710312
Smaller.

>>1710310
His proportions are fine if not slightly off, aside from the head itself of course, but that's not the biggest problem. How could seriously miss the lack of proper placement ?

>>1710300
You need to learn how perspective works. The muscles are fine for the most part, but keep in mind the bodyfat percentage of a person, some muscles blend together due to fat, unless the person in question is super cut.

I started drawing recently.
Here are my latest images.

Any pointers to speed drawing?
I have no draw pad so i must do pen/pencil first, than scan and than color in photoshop with a mouse.
So any speed improving tricks are welcome.

P.S i know about the left arm :D but by the time i noticed it i was already using a pen on it...and i even looked up the anatomy but still messed it up.

>>1710305
I don't hve anything bigger There's nothing you can say about this blending test I did?

>muh style

>>1710312
some people confuse thumbs with color or rendered comp sketches.

Thumbs should be "thumb size or about. after you do a few of those you can pick 3-4 of those you like and bring up to where these are now.

from there narrow it down further and pick 1 or 2.

I recomend syd meads video, i already knew how to do that from an illustration class i had taken and james gurneys book immaginitavie realism. but he really sort of emphazized it and i like his approach of really trying to understand what you are doing before commiting, by doing lots of smaller studies. color / tone / comp / details etc..

>>1710344
more contrast. Also work with your edges, I can't tell where the nose ends and where the shadow below the nose begins.
Now.. Show us something bigger...

>>1710352
>syd meads
the gnomon shop ones?

>>1710343
Not bad for a beginner. But as any beginner you need to work on your fundamentals.
your color choices aren't bad at all. I really like the blue dude on the right.. Just too bad that one is so small

>>1710370
yeah i think so i got them from cgpeers though, about 4 or so videos but the first two is what i learned the most from.

He's working on a Design / illustration of a hyper van or something similar.

>>1710373
ok, then while i'm at it, any other good gnomon ones?
got gcpeers but never used it much until now.

>>1710282

tried doing a paintover. not sure how much it really fixed/improved but i would hate the idea of someone painting over my stuff and not posting it. maybe you can take a tiny bit of anything from it.

>>1710380
whatever helps you sleep at night anon.
Only thing you've changed is the mood of the piece. YOu didn't improve or fixed anything.

>>1710295
Really? I think it has enough story as it is. We don't really need to know where he's headed or why. It already evokes isolation and a bit of weariness.

I suppose he could put something of a destination in the background as long as it doesn't pull too much from the central subject. You don't want to over busy the piece.

>>1710176
OSM

>>1710380

What are those things in the foreground? I assume rocks, but it's not very clear.

Hey /ic/.

I'm, I guess you could call it, "migrating" here, as, with the new image caps on other boards, I would rather come here, get honest critiques, and improve myself rather than sit on /b/ and listen to avatarfags.

Tear me apart. I really want to digitally paint.

(also, sorry about the blatant photoshop brushes and "kawaii uguu" girl. I'm learning.)

>>1710394
first of all, stop painting noses red..
I'll help you be much better received here on /ic/

>>1710394
What were you doing on /b/? are people capable of drawing there?

>>1710226
continuing things like this, now I'm using a larger ref, simpler when it comes to the amount of info on it... posting an early stage of it like 25 minutes in it. Blocked in the main silhouette, lassoed the shadows and bloicked them in, if theres sth you guys could point out at this stage go ahead!
I'm sort of stuck at this stage although I do these regularly I can't see much improvement. I do a couple of these every day + 1,5 hour of figure drawing at either pixelovely or quickposes...
If theres like a routine I could employ in my grinding or anything... or should I like sign up to usual graphics forums and hope for critique there? If that's the case, what would you guys recommend?

>>1710400
Yeah, I can see where that would come from.
Red noses are so tumblr-esque.

>>1710401
Ugh, somewhat.
There are three or four people who are actually quality.
The rest are avatarfags who can't draw anything but their terrible character.

I was on /b/ because... God I don't know. That place is terrible.

>>1710394
Hello, AJ. All I can really point out is the scratchy lines, facial proportions being a bit off (even for stylised purposes), inconsistent shading (no visible light source) and the arms seem a little too narrow, as well as the clavicles not leading into the deltoids.

Oh, and Tumblr nose. Stop that shit.

>>1710382
>>1710392

it's alot better. you guys are blind.

>>1710404
what's your tumblr/dev?

>>1710394
The shoulders are asymmetrical, also stop chicken scratching and start actually shading your drawings
instead of applying random photoshop brushes because you are not sure how to render things,
there is a time and place for brushes so don't put them all over without meaning.

How do I make him not look like brian peppers?

>>1710412
don't have one. ic is the only place I'm trying to get some answers - and I did find some - but yeah, not all. So to get, like, critique and all I should get a tumblr?

>>1710406
Yeah... I'm trying to lose the lines as a whole. I'm not very good at shading either. Thanks.

>>1710413
Wow, I didn't even see the shoulders. I can't believe I missed that.
This was my second attempt at using photoshop, so I went a little haywire with the brushes.
Thanks for the help, you guys.

>>1710420
no get a permanoobs
tumblr is procrastination

>>1710422
>>1710420

Get a tumblr, or something related. Sharing your work is just as important than making it.

>>1710421
If you haven't checked out the sticky, do so. There's a huge amount on painting and rendering.

And, as for the shoulders, try constructing the basic anatomy underneath before adding clothing.

>>1710428
>>1710422
>>1710420
its a forum dedicated to art, youre guaranteed crits, which is what you want.

>>1710295
>>1710298
>>1710380

Thanks for the feedback!

You're right I need to add some story to may paintings so they become more entertaining, but most of the time I start with random brushes without having any idea in mind.

This is the previous one I painted btw.

>>1710307

Will use, those textures look so beautiful!

I know the anatomy's a bit borked on some of the others, but can I get some feedback?

For context, all the figures are adults, the central one is just a pseudo-giant

>>1710450

badass I love Dark Souls

>>1710451
Thanks man. I'm trying to do a series of dark souls paintings to help me get better, as well as just paint some dark souls shit.

But yeah, any critique? I feel I kinda screwed a bit of it up when I started painting over it in color mode. I need to find a better way to do it.

New guy here, again. Just following some tips from the sticky.

I hate hands so much.

But I still feel like I'm using chickenscratch...
Does it count if I'm "painting"? I'm just kinda sketching to get the shadows.

>>1710454

Not good at critique but everything looks good, it's hard to find flaws, I loooooooove the hands of the kid next to the down right corner, they're unfinished but feel so fluid and expressive.

Also check David Rapoza and his dark souls paintings, he's so good.

>>1710414
Or at least get some critique, or anything?

>>1710455

check proko the youtube channel to learn to draw from 0, then it's just practice and looking at a lot of paintings and drawings, have fun!

>>1710457
Dave's the man, but I'm trying to find other ways to paint than 3-point/hollywood lighting. It works great for him and the majority of the industry, but I'm trying to challenge myself to get away from it. I'll obviously have to do it for work, but for these personal paintings I wanna find other methods

>>1710466

try sergey kolesov aka peleng, that guy is the pinnacle of good taste mixed with skill

>>1710467
Thanks man! I've seen his mermaid painting, but not a whole lot else. Thanks for telling me his name, I probably wouldn't have found him now that CGHub is gone.

>>1710468

>mfw cghub is gone

also download pelengs brushes and use 73 and 80, those two are godlike, can do basically anything.

>>1710476
Yeah I need to use more brushes. The only ones I've ever used are the hard round/soft and Danny Luvisi's smoke brush. Say what you want about the dude, but that smoke brush is amazing.

>>1710422
>>1710428
for now I joined permanoobs:

pankolano

thanks guys

>>1710450
dis shit be banin'
work on the hands more though, the hands need more love brah

>>1710450

Looks like a lot of work, how many hours man?

Also don't you get bored after like 6 hours and want to start something new? I always do.

First time I'm going /ic/, and gotta say, I'm quite impressed by the level of some people.
Oh well, here is a fanart of the manga OnePunchMan (just in case, the drawing IS fully original, I just don't own the character's designs) I began yesterday and finished today.

>>1710503
That was about 8-9 hours I think.

I got incredibly bored with it later, that's for sure. It's really bad because you start to lose sight of what's wrong and stuff.

>>1710498
Thanks mang, and yeah, I'll fix them one day.

>>1710503
Also that's sexy, keep going with it.

I'm gonna reupload this again, because this whole thread turns into a god damn circlejerk. Can I get some critique on it, or fucking anything?

idek.First time sketching in color.

>>1710532
at your level what you need is to keep drawing and learn fundamentals.
Dont be a bitch fucksake what matters most is practicing .

>>1710534

colors are too deviantart esque and composition is fucked up, but it's a good first try, keep going, and for everyone into digiral art

WATCH PELENG SPED UP VIDEOS

Any help? Anything at all, I don't know what the fuck is happening right now

>>1710570

proportion is fucked up, learn to NOT draw but paint instead, like, do not draw at all unless you're doing artificial things like cars.

color is nice, check speedpainting videos.

>>1710570
The proportions are fucked, I'm afraid. particularly on that right arm. I also can't tell if the bowstring's supposed to be going in front or behind the right arm.
Eyes look too high and ear too low, and the thighs are way too long.

Looks nice otherwise.

>>1710579

Really? I thought drawing with line and whatnot was super important though.Algen and silva for example use super detailed line art but then again mullins doesn't. I think it's an individual thing that is determined over a period of time. I'm not sure what to do now, anyone else have anything to say in this regard?

arms too long and neck right?

>>1710586

http://vimeo.com/90486265

check this out, in my opinion digital artists who use line always end up looking unoriginal and deviant art style (too perfect, but empty), maybe I'm wrong but I always find that people who paint instead do much more original and fun to see stuff, and your fans will appreciate it.

>>1710586
line or not, they are both based on the fundamentals of form.

your shit doesnt have form; the arm, the leg, the torso(is that even a torso m8). it all just comes down to - you need to loomis

Current WIP, feels like the raven is taking up too much attention :| thoughts ?

>>1710570
Lot of issues everyone else has already mentioned but here some stuff a little more specific if it helps.

The shoulder should be lower, remember, the shoulder blade can slide quite a bit over the ribcage in a variety of directions, it's not stuck in a static place like your hip/pelvis interlock is.

Take this pose yourself and feel where everything is, better yet take this pose in front of a mirror if you can. For me if I was doing this pose my right shoulder would be farther forward than my left shoulder, I'd be twisting my torso slightly to keep the bow out front and easy to draw while also staying a low and not standing up straight.

Look into how an arrow is held the hand you have holding it looks super awkward. The arrow should be between the first and second fingers.

>>1710586
I dont agree with tthat dude. Like you said some people draw before paint and even great artists of rhe past did it.

>>1710594
yeah that's true I agree, I just find it difficult to draw straight away with paint I guess

specially when trying to do anatomy shit and whatnot

>>1710599

dammit gonna ditch this thing then, what should I study to improve my form specifically?

>>1710606

Where did you learn all this? just by studying the human body? What resources helped you out the most? Thanks for the in depth critique I appreciate it

>>1709954
Okay, what's up with that gap between my bad and good work, and why can I never predict whether something will come out good or not?

>>1710655
Draw looser. You should be able to lay down the concept and the foundation within the first 15-30 minutes. If it doesnt look good by then, then it wont look good hours from then

>>1710657
Frankly, I don't understand what you mean.
Those are 10 minutes each btw ._.

Am I getting there?

>>1710232
done for today, any crits?

>>1710682
I like the top stuff with the mushrooms, but the face kinda feels flat. Like there's a form no doubt, but as if the form is being stretched across an object.

>>1710633
I learned what I know by studying anatomy books, art books, and the human figure in life drawing classes and studying myself in a mirror. If something confuses me about a pose I try to do the pose myself and carefully think about how everything feels. I also try to keep in mind how various joints of the body interact with the overall structure. Examples: The rib cage and pelvis are pretty much static, they pivot and move thanks to the spine, but they move as a single unit. The rib cage can be compressed or swell a bit, but it moves as a unit. The hip bones are fused together and though the femur is a ball socket in there, the upper leg doesn't move outside of rotating in that socket. The shoulder however is not a true socketed joint like the hip, there are several bones that make up the joint and the shoulder blade and clavicle all can move quite a bit allowing the shoulder a wide range of motion.

This knowledge isn't perfect and you shouldn't treat it as such, just my current understanding of stuff.

So yea... anatomy books are a good resource, so are books like stanchfield's drawn to life series (my favorite), and mattesi's force.

>>1710601
I like her face, but some proportions seem a bit off particularly her hands. the pose is an easy one so you will not have problem finding a reference to fix these issues.

I've been having some really bad drawing days lately :/

>>1710705
that's not how rhino eyes work, bro.

>>1710717
I see, thanks!

The reference wasn't very clear on that part.

>>1710745
It looks like it needs to piss, what's up with its hind legs?

>>1710745
Rhinos dont look that shiny

>>1710759

lol it's an exercise in describing form. rhinos arent 2 dimensional either anon.

>>1710759
they do. there is a small species of rhino which plows through wet tunnels and caves. it's called the horny rhino.

>>1710745
>highlights
>on foot
>in shadow
rly tkin me of ere

>>1710745
LMAO!!!! thats shit!! tripcode dickhead

>implying he has the slightest idea how light works

>>1710772
No, mace, back in your cage.

I'm not sure how to color this. Rather, I'm afraid of botching it

>>1709954

only took me like a month ...

>>1710800
don't worry it sucks anyway.

slap on some washes. if it needs more go from there.

>>1710808

T-thanks you too.

I have some tomboy markers if that's what you mean. Although maybe I'll mess around in photoshop to see if I can get the right tone.

I'm stuck in mega block mode guys, please help

>>1710805

Muddy textures, eyes are creepy and offputting.

>>1710817
Same here, with the eyes. Needs to be more rendered.

>>1710821
Gotcha, thanks.

>>1710821

god damnit.
b-but i somewhat nailed the values

>>1710825
did you use the zorn palette?

>>1710826

nope. do you think i should have? im gonna read up on it to see if im an idiot for not using it.

>>1710829
well your source was so..i mean, i would have. it's pretty fun and useful. not so much on the computer but with real paint it makes absolutely lovely skin tones and pinks, really rich.

but you'd still learn a lot.

>>1710832
What is the zorn palette?

>>1710847
yellow ochre, red oxide, mars black and ..lead white (might be tit. white (.)(.) )

guess who they are

(and any other thoughts)

>>1710800

>>1710854
AH

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>>1710800
if you are afraid to color it than just do a good grey scale value drawing, make sure to establish a light source.

>>1710805
paintings like these the subject so be more desaturated so she can pop out and not blend in with the red environment

>>1710462
This is a fantastic resource.

Thanks for the recommendation.

>>1710849
Merkel and Putin. Not bad.
The necks on the spectators look a bit weird, though. Like they have massive trapezii or something.

>>1710864
ewwwwwwwwww no.

>>1710893
Constructive.

>>1710893
its gross because of the colors originally picked

Bridgeman. I don't understand the diagonal construction line he uses. Help?

>>1710854

Oh wow, thanks for trying it out. That's pretty neato someone took my lineart and gave it a colorjob.

>>1710142
>>1710141

Took a crack at it. Not v happy with how it turned out. .

my OC

Can anyone please tell me what kind of tablet they use?

I'm looking to purchase one because I want to paint digitally, but I don't know anything about tablets.

I got some money but I have no idea how much a good tablet is worth

>>1710949
Do not steal

>>1710857
u r quite useful brah

>>1710952
Depends on how well you can adapt to the hand/eye disconnect using a regular Tablet. If you find you can't draw naturally with one of those after a while, you may have to switch to a Tablet PC with stylus; you'll still be drawing with a cursor, but the hand/eye disconnect is much less.

Comic book artist Adam Hughes used to use a mouse and lassoing everything to "paint." That must have been a huge pain in the ass.

>>1710972
Thank you.
Can you recommend any specific models? I don't think I will have a problem with the hand/eye disconnect,
so I just want to buy a regular tablet, but I have no clue how to go about that or how much money I should spend.

>>1710997
get an intuos 4 or 5 medium. or if you're a poorfag get the equivalent huion or monoprice.

horsie

Okay...

After a day of studying videos, trying to take in information, my shit still looks like complete shit.

I can't shade or color for the life of me, I'm just so disappointed at what's coming out that it's just making me upset at this point.
Everything looks so messy due to this bullshit chickenscratch, the face still looks stupid, and those shadows are just laughable.

Tear apart and help? Please?

>>1711004
>4/5
3 is completely fine, especially for somebody new at digital painting. Likewise with Wacom's modern Bamboo series.

UGEE tablets are also solid, but I haven't used them myself.

>>1710372
I am lowering the size to hide the staggering amount of imperfections.
I shud get some ink and ink out my stuff after the pencil so i don't have to clean up so much when colouring in PS.
>need to work on your fundamentals.
How about speed drawing tips?

>>1711018
do noooot try and go fast when you're new. speed comes with practice, and attempting speed before getting good will just make your art look awful.

>>1711008
>A day
I don't think it works like that. At least, not for me, I understand the concepts quite easily in general but it takes more than one day to be able to integrate everything in your work naturally.

Aside that, what bothers me the most is the legs and feet proportions and perspective.
Her left forearm and hand are weird too, kinda flat. What's the exact post of this fist? Look for reference or try to make it yourself in front of the mirror.
Post in general is kinda wrong by the way. Looks at boxers, or at least try to imagine what action she's doing, what moment of the action this is, and make gestures before final drawing.

>>1711004
>>1711010
Thanks for helping folks.
Should I buy pic related? It's just called intuos
They don't seem to sell intuos3's anywhere, same goes for intuos4 or 5's in m.
I feel like nobody wants to sell me anything, this shit is confusing

Used SAI and a Wacom. Pretty well adjusted to this medium but my female anatomy feels wonky to me. The aim of this drawing was try to to improve that but I'd really like some peer tips on how to improve; especially with placement of limbs. The red line is a cover over my sig. Sorry about that.

>>1711008
>a day
Anon, progress isn't measured in days and weeks but months and years. It's completely normal to be upset right now but the important thing to know is that you need to press on. Draw from life, draw from the shoulder and keep fucking drawing.

>>1711018
>speed drawing
Speed comes with experience and sheer volume of work.

>>1711036
Do a lot studies, anon and pad it with an anatomy book.

>>1710849
bump

I'm actually submitting this for my AP portfolio. Good enough?

>>1711042
I just must work harder then I suppose.

wipp

pretty tired of working on it tough

>>1711054
Good values but I can't say much else without bias because art styles like this have always been a little unsettling to me. But the subject is entertaining and it's obvious you have presented your skill with the medium.

>>1711054
We all need to work harder. Just don't lose hope, you're only a failure if you up and quit.

Good values but I can't say much else without bias because art styles like this have always been a little unsettling to me. But the subject is entertaining and it's obvious you have presented your skill with the medium.

Note: I apologize for the comment repost. I replied to the wrong person.

>>1711057
Is that flower shooting some sort of magic?

>>1711062
Thank you anon! Words of encouragement like that make my day.

What brushes do you guys use in photoshop?
I don't really like these.

>>1711066
yes. It's a very rare form of magic. It's love anon, love.

>>1711069
I make my own and so should you.

>>1711091
that just sound pretensious 90% of pros use other peoples brushes.

>>1711101
you made that up you hobo. i know because 90% of posts by you are made up, true facts.

Sorry for awful quality

Completely forgot I had this, just started working on it again.

>>1711104
How I reach your level?

>>1711115
pen control? I don't know dude. I made the digital jump 3 days ago. I'm also like...29 and suck.

>>1711104
Nice eyes, darling.

I hope you guys don't mind if I repost this in this thread, I didn't get any critique in the last. I really need feedback I know things are wrong but I can't spot them. I'll take anything you can offer with utmost gratitude, so please don't hold back.

I want to be able to draw really fleshy, fluid anatomy, so I'm practicing. I'll prolly end up painting over this.

My biggest areas of confusion are the feet, camera left leg, and the pectoral muscles.

Here's a WIP.

I haven't been using any references, so it's kind of a struggle. Opinions?

>>1711134

oh gosh I forgot the image

>>1711130
I really like how you draw women. I wish I could draw like this.

>>1711069
>>1711008
I'm this guy.

I tried just doing a portrait from my head, but it seems really flat, almost marvel-comic-esque...

How would I go about making more life-like figures, such as
>>1711104
this skilled fellow?

>>1711161
There's actually a heated discussion about this over here: >>1710943

Basically learn construction and anatomy. May as well do both at once, frankly.

>>1711169
Thanks, guy.

I'll head over there, I guess.

>>1711172
Eh, I think my synopsis does well enough. That thread went full retard.

>>1711181
Hahaha, it really did.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

>>1711169
By construction, do you mean --

Learning how to make things look how you want them to? Like shadow patterns and the like?

I'm still quite new, I apologize.

>>1711135
Your perspective is pretty much non existent here

>>1711186
No, construction is using basic shapes and guidelines to determine correct position and placement. You will also use this construction to figure out where shadow and the likes fall, but that's a later stage.
"Loomis" is a method of basic anatomy construction.

>>1711186
Construction means literally making you're trying to draw out of different shapes. Look up Michael Hampton's figure drawings and you'll get a better idea.

>>1711189
Yeah, I'm still messing around with the positioning of the ropes/turnbuckle/canvas/other boxer since that basically gives the best idea of how it's supposed to be seen.
I'm trying to get on a little above eye level with the downed boxer, foreshortening his body towards the victorious one, but this has definitely been a challenge for me.

>>1711193
>>1711196
Right. Thanks again.

>>1710682
Why am I so slow at painting... anyways an update.

What you guys think?

How do I into painting? I'm using Sai if that matters.

>>1709954
Bridgeman, you magnificent bastard, look at all I am doing for you. Don't be so tsundere.

I started on this to experiment on keeping the brushwork loose but polished enough. I'm currently struggling.
I know it's a 'practice makes perfect' thing but I'd appreciate any pointers/tips/artists to refer to.

>>1711350
stop drawing animu for one

Question. How do I draw the penis and vagina?

progress is painfully slow, but I shall prevail.

Drew my artist friend while we were chatting
Via colored pencil and markers

>>1711397

Hey fags.

First time here.. I just made this and I intend to print and send it to my gf.

I know it´s very amateur but do you guys have any quick tip on how to make it better? Or is it already perfect?

>>1711404
In order:
Learn perspective
Learn what are attractive compositions (Yours is very flat)
Learn how to render properly

The walls should be of different value due to the light
Alot of things should be of different value due to the light
And if you want to use text, you need to pay attention to it more

Look up good art and learn from it, both scenes like this and typography
Hit up /gd/ for the latter because sometimes they have good stuff although basic as hell

>>1711101
>90% of pros use other peoples brushes

Wrong
Alot of artists make their own brushes to suit their needs
Guess who makes brushes
GASP ARTISTS MAKE BRUSHES

Even if there was something similar to what is intended to be made, artists tend to use their own because of their ability to customize it to their liking
Like hell just look at hair brushes

>>1711408

Ok... Thank you very much.

I thought that the perspective was good at least.

>>1711408
>>1711404
It's fine enough as a cute, quick little sentimental gift to a GF. Even if they're all essential things to learn, if we throw all that stuff all at one time, it will go over people's head (and the only way to make use of all those at the moment is to start all over).

As for the image itself, it's fine enough as a cute little gift, even if the green bedsheets bug me (color looks closer to the color of grass) . I don't think you can really do anything much on this, other than start another one if you're inclined to make something better - following the other anon's advice.

>>1711305
Update, id like to belive I'm done with it soon, what what do you guys think?

Contemplating whether or not I'm going to drop this image. Pose is fine by itself. Telling illustration wise not so much. Anyways alot of problems most with form translations and texture and making the silhouette pop. That and some muddy business.

>>1711419
Thank you anon. I just asked here because I really enjoyed making it, and now I wanna start to learn how to draw and paint. It´s good because I know my flaws.

And well.. My bedsheet is really this ugly.

>>1711423
It's great to see you work with colors more. The rim lighting makes the silhouette pop out but you need to work on your drapery man. Those suits of armour are just begging for a cool cape. Also the bottom part of the image seems a bit... dull compared to all the hip and happening up top

>>1710222
>>1710226
thanks
>>1710945
the eyes are nice and i really dig the hatching, something about the jaw though doesn't read right, nice job though!

here's a quick warm up sketch of a michelangelo bust, will try to post more drawings later, thanks to anyone who replies

>>1711031
Looks like Wacom did a little renaming of their products. Anon is probably suggesting the Intuos Pro, but if you're unfamiliar with tablets, going cheaper would probably be a better idea. The Intuos is now what used to be called the Bamboo, I'm no sure what /ic/ consensus is on that. I use a Tablet PC with pen and touch and get by pretty much without any fancy buttons.

Looking at the Wacom packages, I'd suggest staying away from Intuos Manga. The version of Manga Studio that comes with it is outdated and MS5 blows it out of the water with a much better interface for touch and ruler tools.

>>1711461
Sloppy markmaking and sloppy edges. Even if it is a "quicksketch", you can make your marks a bit slower and more careful and deliberate, and the result will be much better. This looked half-assed and rushed.

>>1711423
Looks cool.

Your design is nice, the only things that let the image down are:
1. All the colours are very saturated, with the amount of warm light and colour you are using, you probably don't need to use 'Blue' on the armour at all, just desaturate your colour and the more grey hue should do the work for you.

2. The cape, it's not as well rendered.
Go look at these guys for drapery / capes on people, they are fantastic:
Ludwig Deutsch
Rudolph Ernst
Adolf Seel

In particular search for their 'Nubian Guard' paintings, you'll get plenty of gorgeous capes / cloaks.

Hello /ic/
how do you like my art?

>>1711135
That guy is huge

>>1711515
It have no technical skill and no deeper message.
Sticky.

Daily figure drawing

>>1711572
it was a stylistic experiment. But it's okay that you don't like it

>>1711596
It's fine.
The butt seems too small.
And it would help a lot if you used your hatchings to define the shapes and their directions rather than just to fill in the shadows

>>1710058
The journey ends. thanks for anons that helped me.

>>1711666
???

Can I have some critique on this or help with the face? I just erased it because I can not get it right.

>>1711674
??

Is anyone here using Corel Painter? Is it any good?

I don't want to subscribe to the jews and sai doesn't allow me to buy anything if I use gmail

>>1711677
?。?。?。。。

>>1711675
sure man.

>>1711675
>help with the face
well, that depends what you want the drawing to be. as there is no face it could be anything, starting from a cock sucking whore to a beardy spartan grinding puppy eyes with his teeth.

rhino study
opinions on rendering technique?

okay guys, I'm currently coloring this but I'm in desperate need of color/shading suggestions

Critiques are certainly appreciated, but I'm on a deadline so I won't make any major changes (its just needs to be decent enough for a high school AP class)

also
>>1710849
I could use some thoughts on this, too

>>1711707
Looks unfinished. That being said the forms read fairly clearly. I don't know why you are throwing blur and grain on it at this stage, that stuff should be saved for the end.

>>1711707
really didn't have to cut off the ears.

dof effect is really good, how did you do that? gaussian blur? did you smudge it?

Haven't had a chance to sit and do a study in a while...just relaxing a bit here. Kinda rusty though.

>>1710394
I like your style.

Any suggestions?

hmmm

>>1711736
it looks a bit dry right now structurally it looks fine.
might want to move the left foot in a bit.

adding some ground reflections to the boots and maybe a slight bit of sky reflection from above and pushing the gun adding small value details might be good, also the poket on his right leg under the bag should rap around it to give it that extra push of form. right now there is a slight tangent.

>>1711679
I guess the fact that nobody seems to use it is king of an answer

>>1711733

learn to simplify and become next Craig Mullins

>>1710601

That's not a raven.

>>1711747
but isnt it already quite simplified

>>1711736

same for you. Siplifying is especially important if you want to be a character, weapon, car or any kind of designer.
They don't need fancy rendering, they need you to produce few designs every day so you will have to figure it out how to save time. And no.1 thing is simplifying.
You fags admire Craig Mullins, Jaime Jones, Maciej Kuciara, Kekai,.. but some of you obviously don't see why their image are powerful: VERY good fundamentals knowledge and simplifying as much as you can.

>>1711756
those textures doesn't make sense. It takes time to know how to use texture eficiently like Mullins otherwise you can ruin good fundamentals (for example you can ruin good pants design with tons of folds - draw only folds that make your design STRONGER)

>>1711759
im not one of the two OPs but whats the solution? how do i learn to simplify?

>>1711761

fundamentals. People hide poor knowledge on fundamentals (basic form, lighting on basic forms, composition, shapes, negative/positive space, soft/hard edges,...) with tons of unimportant details, fancy effects (pointless lighsources, textures that doesn't make sense,..).
You can even see some work from Wizzards where artists don't know how to handle textures and they just ruin an overall good piece. But on other hand a lot of artist do realize how you can ruin a piece with texture so they awoid them and use mostly hard round/square brush.
using textures saves you time and its benefitial IF and only IF you know how to use them.
You can load Mullins, jaime Jones or Kekai's brush set but it won't do a shit for you.

>>1711747
the first one looks way better.
it has smooth variation in hues and values and perspective is stronger while the second one is kinda flat and lacks interesting detail to keep the eyes on.
You just color picked the primary colors and removed the soft edges and detail. Good job!

> simplify
> synergy

Are these the new /ic/ buzzwords now?

>>1711769
you just dont understand, ojiisan

>>1711769
synergy might be but simplify is legit

>>1711764
Learn to cheat. If other tools than standard brushes helps with the process then use them. Dont limit yourself to purely traditional methods when you are painting digitaly.

>>1711769
'To me it looks like a mix of Sargent and Bouguereau' was le epic new may may for like a week and then people stopped using it.

'Synergy' won't be any different.

>>1710282
>>1710380

i really like the first one better. but i think if thats a spire in the back left there you should detail it more so its as if hes coming back home from some kind of journey

synergy chan actually had a legit crit and was completely ignored by shitdicks who obsess over every single word of advice.

>>1711788
synergy chan lol. i need to go outside.

I want to learn how to draw, I mainly want to focus on drawing naked women and cars, where should I start? Will Betty Edwards help me or Loomis?

I have never drawn before and I am just about to start.

>>1711793
draw some naked women and cars, go go go


then post it here so we can tell you what to do next

>>1711793
Fuck Loomis. Go Burne Hoghart. And Vilppu.

>>1711793
edwards.

>>1710445
I like the idea in this piece a lot, the color are nice to, but his body proportions are off, bicep to big thighs to small, bulky body and skinny forearms.

>>1711811
I like this.

Can anyone provide good face references? I do figure drawings often and would like to start learning the faces better since they are small as fuck on drawing websites, though I do try study real life. Anyways, I have trouble with faces. I can construct heads n shit all day at any angle but as soon as I try to think up expressions, I seem to fail.

>>1710445
What software and/ or brushes are you using?

>>1711679
Photoshop Elements 5 master race here.
Corel is shit.

>>1711679
You could always torrent ps... If you have windows or linux you can use krita, which is free, pretty awesome too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMERD9qdnRk

fuck this gay edgy devil dude.
my ideas dont interest me.
when i like something and paint it,around mid-painting i realize its shit.
hate how nothing looks rendered well, hate how every face i paint ends up looking similar to my own.
got shitton of brushes but only use hard & soft round . i cant texture for shit .
goddamn i hate my workflow and hate my stuff, Im gonna just keep doing selfportraits and still lives until i get good.

>>1711874
do you guys just buy ps or pirate it? shits expensive

meh? A photo study

>>1711883
Download trial and crack it.

>>1711883
-download and crack it if you are an absolout beginner.
keep working on the cracked version until you have a stable income working with it. Then Pay the fuck up.
if you aren't intrested in earning a living with the tool, pay the fuck up or look for another tool like gimp, which is free and not half as bad as people say it is.

>>1711747
Cheers for the paintover! I agree that I can simplify more effectively. At the time I thought I had simplified quite a lot compared to the reference image, but in hindsight I could have done it better. I'll keep it in mind on future ones :)

Oh and here is the ref: http://i.imgur.com/1aqIgkN.jpg

Don't think I did that good a job now that I look again haha! Landscapes are not my forte.

>>1711765
I think you are confusing finish with quality. His paintover of my image is obviously done quickly and not refined, but that is not his goal. So there will be some loss of edgework and colourwork, but the point he is making is not in regards to that.

>>1711945

Just keep doing it man :)
Good luck

Last two paintovers for today

take care guys and keep on practicing

>>1711973
Thanks for the paint over, I can't really read what you wrote at the top though

>>1712006
He looks like Mr. Miyagi.

Did this for a friend.

>>1712006
oh hey i saw this in the level up group

>>1712099
This, I mean.

oh man this is so anime and generic and I never draw like this. I'm having a blast

>>1712198
still having fun, I'm debating going absolutely mad and coloring this tonight as well. I mean it's 2:00, but I'm feeling really energized

gestures from imagination

>>1712228
man that ear is waaaay too small..
Also if you're goinfg for the manga look, make nose smaller.
The eyes look messy and i cant really tell whats going on with the mouth

>>1712239
Thanks! I'm reworking a lot of the face, and it really helps to have a second set of eyes! The only thing I'll really keep is the nose, for some reason I just really enjoy how it turned out.

>>1712240
I'm glad i to help

>>1712237
they're too stiff, use the side of the pencil, do concise and assertive strokes.

grab a softer pencil and a better quality paper.

>>1712249
>>1712237
Okay, I'll try to make them more dynamic, use the side of the pencil and be more assertive about it :)

These were made in a cheap 15 by 21 cm sketchbook with a mechanical pencil.
I understand why i should use another pencil, but i can't imagine how better quality paper should help my drawing?

>>1712260
>mechanical pencil
There's your problem, you're using the pencil like a pen, that's a more advanced technique that you should use when you're much better.
Buy normal pencils within the HB-4B range, use HB for construction, light rendering, use the softer ones from 2b to 4b for gestures and rendering.

I see this a lot with beginners, either use a pen or don't use it at all. The entire point of the pencil is the graphite, you use it to make good and concise rectangular in shape strokes like with a palette knife, so you're essentially sculpting the form. Then you can either grab a soft tissue and use it to break down the graphite into a nice soft gradient.
If you really want to go for the strokes around the form thing then you need to practice spacings between each stroke you make, preferably with a pen. The gray is simply not enough to cause a good contrast between the white of the paper for it to look good, so instead it just looks grayish muddy. That means either grab a pen or learn to put multiple strokes in one place aswell as in every direction.

Different papers give different textures, a soft paper is better suited for the first method and watercolors, a more crisper and rougher paper is suited for the strokes method. Your sketchbook is likely more acceptable of the former.

>>1712228
fuck I gotta get to sleep, 3:30 already. work on this more tomorrow. I think (her) left side is too small compared to her right, looks all chibi. Is it just me?

>>1712249
>>1712260
Okay, so I tried to use the side of the pencil and making it more dynamic. (also bigger)
I really need to work on being assertive when drawing.
>>1712265
>I see this a lot with beginners
I wouldn't exactly consider myself a beginner, but I might still do beginner mistakes.. Oh well XD..
I am very grateful for your comment and help

>>1712283
It's not very manga-ish, and even less chibi-ish.
the eyes are too small, the nose is too big and the mouth is just a symbol. The ear is still waaaaay too small.
I might try to draw guide for you, but i'm not really into drawing manga either

>>1712090
I like this.. If it was bigger i would use it as my desktop background.

>>1712283
>>1712309
I hope you see this when you wake up.
This is what i understand as a manga-ish drawing..
It might not be what you're looking for, but oh well.

>>1712323
I appreciate the sketch but I'm not really going for a manga style. I mean, when I was drawing it I kept thinking that it was the most anime-influenced thing I'd ever drawn, but I'm not going for the big-eyes chibi look. I do appreciate the draw though, and I'll probably be stealing parts of those lips, that nose, and that ear. Thanks again!

>>1712198
>this is so anime
>>1712283
>looks all chibi

>>1712339
>not really going for the manga style
>not going for the big-eyes chibi look

pretty self contradicting, dude

>>1712377
When I said "it looks all chibi" I meant it in a bad way, I wasn't going for those kinds of proportions. As for "this looks so anime," it does look like an anime styled thing, which "I never draw like."

Why are we even arguing semantics, though? I mean, I can honestly say I'm not going for that style, but I'm not angry about it or anything. I'm just trying to work on this drawing and get it as polished as I can. I appreciate and love the critiques on the drawing, but I don't really need the 4chan-level arguing over minutia on my wording.

Thanks!

>>1712388
I really like that, man. Part of me wants to say you should work on the line weight a bit to get them more consistent, but at the same time I love slightly sloppy look to it. The colors are awesome.

I'd say try and clean up some of the lines in the foreground, such as the foremost light post, and the (wall? dock?) between the foremost light post and the street level. Don't touch the stuff in the background so much.

How'd you get that smudgy look? What program did you use?

>>1712385

>>1712388
This is really great.
Keep going anon :3

>>1712392
>Leave if you'd prefer people to critique your drawing instead of your post
Naw, I think I'll stay

>>1712391
>>1712395
Thanks for the feedback, I use SAI with a few of the default brushes.
I should have said earlier that this is a photo study but thanks anyway~

final

>>1712283
Cleaning up the armor more. big pain in the ass but I'm really enjoying getting the lines as clean as I can within reason.

Hey guys, splitting a banner with a friend, and I finally started coloring my half. What do you guys think?

>File was too big to upload on here
http://i.imgur.com/lOLgvtF.jpg

>>1712718
That looks pretty rad, I'm really jealous of the coloring. Really sharp and smooth gradients, and cool line work. What's with Ryu's face though? The face looks really ape-like.

>>1712731
Is it the lips, or the face all around? Was trying to give him an unimpressed/stern look.

>>1712746
I think it's the cheek bones, to be honest.

>>1712748
Ever since I read Jojo I've really tried to use the whole cheek thing to my advantage. I feel like it helps define a tough dude, but looks like I'll have to be more careful.

>>1712690
Done with the line-work. Jesus I haven't spent this much time on a drawing in a very long time. The armor's not perfect but god damn it looks pretty good to me.

Gonna try to convince myself to paint this tomorrow. I'm dogshit awful with colors so there's a good chance this is just going to stay linework. Moved the head forward a bit on the neck, I think it really helped make it seem more anatomically correct and less like she's leaning back all fucking weird, like in >>1712283


Thanks for being my blog tonight /ic/

it'z been too long /ic/ , I settled with facebook, but somehow it's wrong to to call people bad there. and no one seem to give me any harsh criticisms, or calling me a nigger anymore. so, can I have some critic on edge control please ?
and uuuh, is Ollly okay ? I haven't seen any of his facebook post for a while, and i'd love to see if he finishes that India theme painting of his

Alright /ic/ I'm going to try and turn this study into a CD cover for an assignment; before I ink it I want to see critique.

Thank you in advance

>>1711679
I'm using Corel Painter X3 and it's pretty good if you're into fine art (ex: you know how to paint with acrylics, watercolors, how to use different pens, charcoal, ect.)

I don't know shit about inking or painting though