/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

re-posting from last thread

Repost aswell.

on a scale of 1 to kill-myself, how horrible is this? i know it's mostly just an outline but what are the anatomy issues, keeping in mind she is wearing a skin tight suit.

Started with just playing with some colors.

>>1704526
resize your fucking canvas douchebag

>>1704529
That's awesome. I love the colours and comp.

>>1704529
I like that effect with the brushes on the right

Playing with scene construction, proportions are off, but I'm getting somewhere.

should i be pushing these values a lot more?

>>1704530
sorry, bud. figured it'd be best to err on the side of large since scaling down is easier than up, but i'll make sure things i post are reasonable resolutions.

>>1704559

define "push". overcontrasting is the bane of the rookie. but yeah you need more value.

>>1704559
>should i be pushing these values a lot more?
You should establish the values of the whole first! Zoom out, use a big brush, and get all of your large value relationships down. Once you're satisfied with them, zoom in and refine

>>1704526
It's next to impossible to make anything out when zoomed out. With that in mind, her spine is broken, her legs are way too long, her arms might be a bit long.

There's also lots of problems with the head. The face is too large for the head, her nose is too long for her face (and might be too small in terms of volume). She's also missing an ear. The neck is poorly realized, and you should consider including clavicles.

>>1704559
not necessarily, depends on the rest of the picture. i would block in the hair and whatever your going to have in the back ground before making a decision.

>>1704529

Great example of leading the eye to a focal point, nicely done.

Progress shot
Started coloring, So far it hasnt been too difficult maybe thanks to doing the B&W painting for 10 or so hours dunno. Anyways alot of painting to do. Feeling pretty good.

lazy midnight 2minute gestures
i apparently seem to feel it better on the edge of consciousness

>>1704595
are you studying tehmeh?

>>1704563
>>1704581
>>1704583
thanks for the advice. coloring scares the shit out of me. i'm so terrible at it.

the problem i have with blocking though is i don't really know how detailed i should get with it. i'm not confident enough in my blocking to place something without trying to detail the surrounding anatomy so i know i made the right decision, but that's just getting ahead of myself.

but i'll start over and try again!


>>1704584
>her spine is broken
what makes you say that? do you not think the pose is possible?

>her legs are way too long, her arms might be a bit long.
i feel like if she stood straight, this would be proportionate

>There's also lots of problems with the head. The face is too large for the head, her nose is too long for her face (and might be too small in terms of volume).
Really? I feel like I followed muh loomis.

>She's also missing an ear
>you should consider including clavicles.
yeah...fixed

>The neck is poorly realized
hmm, yeah, you're right

>>1704598
F-FF FUFKFUFUFUFUUF

No I'm not I paint with him in the hangout sometime so some of the things he does are rubbing off on me for better or for worse

So in short SHITHSITHSITSIHTHIHISTSIHTHITT
ah whatever gotta find out what I like for myself,
experimentation I guess.

>>1704600
>what makes you say that? do you not think the pose is possible?
The general pose is possible, but there's too sharp of a kink in the back. Take off your shirt, stand in front of a mirror and try it out for yourself. What's your max range of motion while keeping the rest of the pose consistent? How comfortable is that pose? Could you envision a real person making that pose?

>i feel like if she stood straight, this would be proportionate
The pubic bone is generally at the midpoint in height when standing upright. The back leg might be fine, but I'm fairly sure the front leg is too long.

>Really? I feel like I followed muh loomis.
The browline is generally measured at the keystone shape of the skull - a little lower than you have it. The nose line should correspond to the lowest point on the nose when viewed from the front. Also, because her head is angled downward, the proportional relationships of the face also distort in perspective: the segment from the top of the head to the brow should be a bit longer than brow to nose, which is a bit longer than nose to chin. The reverse relationship would be the case if she were looking upward.

>>1704601
trolled softly
~bububum~

>>1704603
sjw femnazi sighted

A sketch I resumed recently.

I would appreciate some input particularly in regards of composition (left vs right), body proportions, pose, symmetry and whatever you may find wrong or can be improved.

In b4 drop it, stop polishing turds, etc...

Btw if I want to colorize this, should I keep adding grayscale value? I was very underwhelmed by the overlay mode on SAI so I was wondering if this is the same case with PS or I'm simply doing it wrong.

>>1704606
you got me good m8

>>1704603
thanks for all the pointers. i'll see what i can do with it.

>>1704595
That cape ruins your otherwise pretty good work.

Study some drapery.

>>1704640

>>1704611
weak b8 m8

selection from today's faces :3

>>1704646

Today's misguided attempt at portraiture, accurate enough but I'm not too sure about the range of values on it.

>>1704603
perhaps i fixed the facial, head, neck, and clavical anatomical issues you had?

I maintained her long legs, because the i expect samus to have very long legs.

in terms of the face, i did shorten the nose length a bit, but i still want it longer than average.

i suppose this is a reasonable enough place to start coloring from. time to do blocking. i imagine this will take me awhile

Tried to add a bit more color, i hope it's more lively

>>1704494
>>1704513
>Hur thur I used my imagination for this
>I used my face as reference

Chickface: the ultimate artform. In my defense.. it was done with a mouse. Scrap it?

>>1704744
Are you really this autistic?

(1/2)
>>1704741
>perhaps i fixed the facial, head, neck, and clavical anatomical issues you had?
Somewhat. I think the biggest issue right now is that the eyes are a bit high, making the nose seem longer than it is. I tried my hand at a redline, focusing on the skull construction so that the eye socket is placed correctly. It's far from perfect, and I probably altered the likeness you were going for, but hopefully it gives you some ideas at the very least.

(2/2)
>>1704741
>I maintained her long legs, because the i expect samus to have very long legs.
I wasn't sure if you addressed the spine issue yet, but I feel the legs might be longer than what's anatomically normal. I drew this redline earlier more for fun and practice, but I might as well post it too in the event it's somewhat helpful. This one too is far from perfect, and I unknowingly changed her torso twist a bit.

If another anon wants to point out any place I fucked up, feel free to jump in because I'd appreciate the learning opportunity.

______

And as an aside, samus's boots typically have at least some heel, which would change the position of her foot should you choose to incorporate that.

>>1704614
Composition wise, both feel too tight above her head. Too little breathing room. The one on the right could have a very scenic environment included if you gave it more room. Should you choose that right, copy your image and shrink it down to the size of a thumbnail. Then try out many different big value shapes to find a composition you like.

For proportions, those legs seem a little thin for her frame. Decide what age she's supposed to be, and let that guide your proportions.

Symmetry: Her head might be a bit far to the left compared to her neck.

>Btw if I want to colorize this, should I keep adding grayscale value? I was very underwhelmed by the overlay mode on SAI so I was wondering if this is the same case with PS or I'm simply doing it wrong.
Even in photoshop, there's no super effective way to add color with blending modes. You can use it to establish some groundwork, but you'll still have to do a ton of opaque painting on top so that it doesn't look like shit.

If you're serious about fleshing this out into a painting, I highly recommend doing some thumbnail exploration first, using what you already have as a base. Try out different background ideas, different value arrangements, and different lighting conditions (front lighting is boring!). I feel like having her in the shade in the foreground, and a well lit elaborate royal garden in the midground might work nicely. If you give it enough vertical room maybe even a castle in the background.

>>1704769
>Call out on anon's bullshit
>"HUR THUR U AUTISTIC LEDDIT 9CHAN FTW"

>>1704799
Do you have fun shitposting or are you just compelled to do it?

W.I.P. charcoal on pastel paper.

>>1704787
i have the side of the hip facing rather direction toward the viewer, since the last outline, adjusted her pelvis to not be as rotated forward as before, which i think makes the pose seem significantly more natural. my main concern at the moment is establishing a more powerful core, but am worried i would lose the litheness of the character.

i'll test out shorter legs, and do a proper measurement for them.

in terms of face, i always envision the character with high set eyes because it gives a mature/superior sort of vibe to me, but i may be straying out of the realm of anatomical realism.

and i could assuredly do something more interesting with at least the back arm. not sure what. the pose doesn't seem natural at all.

>>1704805
Pretty nice. Some of the plane changes are a little mushy and ambiguous. Feels like a missed opportunity, especially in the well lit areas of the forehead.

>>1704806
>and i could assuredly do something more interesting with at least the back arm. not sure what.
Maybe a raise arm bent at the elbow holding her gun upwards? Cliche, but it could work.

>>1704806
Oh, and this is a side point, but she'd probably have some form of breast support built into the clothing (underwire?). Right now you have them drooping as if she were nude, but you'd need something that lifts and holds them in place if there's going to be a lot of physical activity.

>>1704799
>He checked his face to see how facial anatomy works 'HURR DURR CH8R UGUYS'

>>1704787
>>1704809

made her eyes lower and shortened the legs, and both these adjustments look better, so thank you for the advice. i'll save posting the picture again, because it's getting really spammy and easily the worst picture in the thread.

>>1704815
most of the games portray the suit as if it has a pocket for each breast, and supports them pushed up forward, but i figure to keep them out of the way as much as possible, it would instead flatten them in a single tight pouch, which is what i went for, but maybe i failed?

>>1704822
>it would instead flatten them in a single tight pouch, which is what i went for, but maybe i failed?
The zero mission concept art has them separated. I image that would look like two separate cups that hold them in place. If you want to do the unified approach, it'd look more like a sports bra, so find references of those. With that, the bottom of the breast would have a sharp transition to the chest wall, with little to no excess fabric. To me, yours looked like there was fabric between the bottom back of the breast and the chest wall (like socks for boobs almost). If they're a unified mass, focus on the major planes and be careful were you place lines, as they can make the breasts appear to hand separate from each other and the chest wall.

>>1704510
changed a bit, critique would be nice

>>1704829
Can't really crit, think it's awesome what you're doing. Don't understand what those two long things behind its eyes are though.

>>1704829
I'm not sure what those appendage-like things are that make a giant circle, but they have some pretty bad tangents with the snail shell.

Also, is that a portal within that giant circle? Is there another portal of sorts within the snail shell as well? Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm not sure if parts of this are meant to be less literal and more abstract, and if so to what degree.

I do like the color palette, the boat, the water, and the shell though. The snail's head is underwhelming by comparison, but I guess it's still a WIP.

>>1704829
Are you stupid? Stealing a composition like that is fucking weak and you should feel ashamed for trying to trick people into thinking you actually know what you're doing.
Shamefur Dispray

Image he's copying: >>1704151

>>1704833
Fucked the link up: http://i.4cdn.org/ic/src/1397494975266.jpg

>>1704766
Getting less shittier?

>>1704833
Would not really dwell on it. Artists copy compositions all the time. Jaime Jones was notorious for taking Mullins comps.

>>1704782
You turned her into Samus, I like it

This is my first digital painting.
Tell me how shit I am.

>>1704892
I really like the feeling of this piece, since I love rainy and cloudy days. Very nice.

elsa from frozen. how do i fix this pose and/or face?

Feedback on my value studies?
I tried to capture a lonely mood with a robot in an abandoned hangar. The light would be an late afternoon/evening sun.

The middle one is the one I just did with a reworked lineart, might be a bit too dark

>>1704856
Looks a bit too fuzzy imo. But that may be your style.
I'd say less soft brushes

>>1704818
>He checked his face
>Says from Imagination
>Not saying from reference

>>1704804
Yes, I am at the wrong here for pointing out his idiocracy.

>>1704818
>He checked his face
>Says from Imagination
>Not saying from reference

>>1704804
Yes, I am at the wrong here for pointing out his idiocy.

>>1704944
I like the last one, first one draws attention to the wall on the right and there's nothing there to look at

>>1704927
draw it again and again and again and again and again

well im done with this one.

>>1704977
Thanks, how about the middle one? It's almost the same as the first but the light is not so strong on the wall there.

>>1704537
>>1704548
>>1704594

Thanks guys!

>>1704534
Oh hey ! Look I started coloring that shit

>>1704529
>playing

this is such a majesty, sir.
i should save this.

Sup /ic/
I drew a potrait of myself with a helmet and and some armor.
Can you picture any serious mistakes?

>>1705009
Middle one feels unbalanced, the lower half of the robot is lost in that shadow, maybe adding some reflected light/secondary light source to help bring his figure forth more would help?

>>1705063
the drawing overall lacks structure, it's a good effort though
the left eye(his left our right) is the prime offender, it's both too far away from the bridge of the nose and drawn as though it's in profile despite the fact we're seeing the guy in 3/4 view

>>1704979
i've done a bunch of them, i just want a half-decent start to practice photoshop with. what specific structural flaws need fixing?

>>1705075
thanks for the feedback. its a shame though, i guess i cant change the position of the eye at this point.
but i will keep attention in future drawings.
may i ask what you mean with the lack of structure?

>>1705063
I suggest focusing less on lines and more on shading! If you're going for a more realistic style, you should focus more on the values of lights and darks than the lines themselves. Don't be afraid to push the shadows more! Also, the lines on the nose bridge are a little overwhelming. You can make these less intense by shading around the nose and facial area. Also, work on the position of the eyes. Other than that, it looks good! I like the eyebrows and the mouth, they look great!

Also, here's a picture of the kind of shading i was talking about and a redline.

>>1705068
Thanks

>>1705098
thank you very much for your feedback. i really appreciate it

>>1705048
It looks pretty well done so far but the idea or design is rather dumb even for a high fantasy universe.

>>1705002
The composition is boring too centralized. The generic tree brush flattens out the image and the trees don't fit into that 4 point perspective you were going for.

>>1704944
The bottom one is best imo, did you watch whit brachnas video? simmilar in a way might be worth it to check it out. the use of 3d for something like this after you get some stronger fundementals will help you.

>>1704892
You have some good stuff going ill wait to see how you get used to the medium before a serrious crit. could work on perspective and detail control.

>>1704529
This looks really nice zoomed in the thumb reads poorly though imo. Did you use a texture for the floor? either way good stuff.

>>1705048
I like the design, something new atleast

>>1704504
Could i have some comments on my coloring? Also, some anatomy help / redlining on the second person would be really great! Thanks in advance!

>>1705109
Thanks, I'll check out his video.
It's funny that I find the bottom one the worst of the three

>>1704833

dude people do that aaaaaall the time. there's nothing questionable about it. it's one of the many natural phases of the journey. sometimes it's really fun to take a "shot" from someone else and just replace the stuff inside and see how good you can pull it off. everyone does it. even if only subconsciously.

>>1704513

>>1704892
I like it but the nearest figure seems to have weird posture. Also, I think it would look better if there was only one figure instead of a bunch of solitary people walking along.

>>1704601
Hey, what's the hangout address?

Nice work by the way, you're improving.

>>1705175
Question. I see a lot of artist painting these white spots under the eyes. What are those?

Its a bit off, studied it from a small book

>>1705193
Sometimes the pores of the skin get highlighted more than others.

>>1705232
it's quite a whole lot off. Don't give up, try again!

Well met /ic/arrians.

I probably want to do illustration for life.

Here i'm almost done with values, so critique before i jump into color plz.

Just trying to improve on digital.
tomorrow I post this finished.

>>1705290
ref for that one

>>1704796
Using thumbnails is something I've never tried before.

As for the legs, the left one is prosthetic but I will try hard to find some references to fix them.

The lightning worries me since at this point I've used it to considerably detail the metallic parts of the back.

Thanks for the feedback I will try and see what I can do at this point,

>>1705252bit homo erotic mate

>>1705290
The hear is a big big at the top compared to the original. Good job so far though.

>>1705175

Havnt drawn in months

>>1705307

>>1705109
Appreciate it. The floor isn't a texture, but I used a simple pattern for the base of the checkerboard. The rest is brushwork.

>>1705307
how do you work so slowly it's amazing.

Drawing a shrug girl.

damn you feet

>>1704856
Feedback please, am I improving it in any way or is it complete shit? Continue practicing on it or scrap it and start anew?

>>1704856
Feedback please, am I improving it in any way or is it complete shit? Continue practicing on it or scrap it and start anew?

i painted a cat. i named it leroy.

>>1705413
well leroy looks dumb

>not getting the joke

>>1705417

wippity wip

I'll shit my pants if that one guy on this board recognizes me .

>>1705413

shitty values. i mean they "read" but they don't convey a feeling of depth very well.

>>1705063

Stop right there, criminal scum.

>>1705373
Those feet aren't planted on the ground plane. The toes on both look like they're digging into the ground.

>>1705448

sue me :O nah i agree completely

wip portrait

>>1705480
I like this a lot. Post when finished por favor

forgot to resize, wip

>>1705482
thanks, will do

>>1705491

I like the lighting

Sketch from yesterday that I like a lot. I need to refine a lot of the edges on the face.

I did this maybe 4ish years ago, stippling is the only stuff I can really do. It could have a bit more contrast and one of the eyes bothers me but it is probably the best thing I have done.

I'm a painter. I have recently started this painting. It's a female with tentacles for hair. The filling of the tentacles is a galaxy.

The top right is a sea horse holding a ghost with a sailor cap.

You can't exactly tell right now, but the setting is in the sea. There will be more sea creatures and the top left will be a man in an old timey diver suit. Much like the suits seen on BioShock.

The painting will be named "Galaxsea". Sort of a pun since the woman's tentacles are a galaxy. And my signature is down bottom.

I come to ask if there are any improvements I can make to my painting?

I already see a select few. The nose chin and nose aren't precisely on the same line of focus. The septum piercing is a little too big on one side and is also crooked.

Other than that I would need help from you guys. It's still a work in progress and I would appreciate the help.

>>1705496

If you did your best piece 4 years ago, you're really not working hard enough. Also that image is tiny, can't see shit.

faces from today

started doing more sketches again.

>>1705491
>>1705518
wow

>>1705508
>I already see a select few.

How about the part where basically all of the anatomy is fucked?

also

stop

formatting

posts

like

this

It's fucking obnoxious to read.

>>1705515
Looks like you're starting to grasp the fundamentals of rendering (quite like the 2nd one from right), but construction skills are very, very lacking still. You should focus on that more than anything else is my suggestion.

>>1704892

Needs more consideration as to its value structure, patterns, and shapes.

>>1705505

You know, as a thumbnail this looks really awesome.

>>1705499

Lookin' good, but I'd question if the top priority for this is the edges on the face. It all depends where you're going with it, but try putting in some opaque, considered strokes in there to compliment up the transparent loose work you have.

>>1705491
Watch your separation of light and shadow. Colors and drawing are looking lovely, though.

>>1705515
There's something in your drawing ability that's missing in the painted portraits. There's an interesting bit about Harold Speed taking a drawing into a painting, if you google "harold speed drawing method" it should be the first image that comes up.

>>1705527
thx man, they were rather quick, about 30 min each so i think that would partly explain the bad construction. i prbly should have spent more time on it

>>1705534
you mean this one ? still not to sure what you mean :3

>>1705526
No one ever said I was going for a realistic human anatomy. Realism isn't the way I like to go. I prefer a more cartoonish style. I'm looking for constructive criticism, not for you to be a cunt.

>>1705543

Yes, that one. Look at how he draws in shadow shapes, keeping separation of light and shadow in mind as well as modelling out the features, and then washes over it and defines the biggest planes. It's like the middle-ground between drawing and painting, and if you pushed it more in that direction then you might be able to get better painted portraits out of it.

>>1705544

I don't care if it's "cartoonish," the anatomy is fucking awful. Also, was there really any need for you to list off everything about your piece? Anyways, here's some constructive crit on your anatomy because apparently you can't look in a damn mirror or even google a portrait photo.

>her right eye is absolutely fucked, not in perspective or even on the same plane as the face
>left shoulder is just a straight line, what?
>head is positioned off of the neck
>neck is far too wide

I'm sure there's more, but other than that, you have good quality of line for the most part and I really dig the galaxy shit going on in the hair. Please don't bullshit and tell yourself this is good though, it has some good elements, but as a whole it's just not.

>>1705553
ok, thx for your time, i'll try to keep that in mind

>>1705508

>>1705499
>>1705534
Thanks, I'll try my best

>>1705556
>this

>>1705508
Stop doing polid shit and go work on your fundamentals.
Sticky.

>>1705556
Yeah you're right. I'll try to fix it all at the best of my abilities. It still may not be good because I have never actually sat down and tried to draw the human head or face. I have always done inanimate objects or organs.

>>1705562
Thanks man. This helps get me on track.

>>1705568
>I have never actually sat down and tried to draw the human head or face

Holy shit well there's your problem. Get studying son, nowhere to go but up.

>>1705570
Yeah I was just about to look up some lessons and tutorials on drawing the human facial structure and figure. Do you know of any good resources of art lessons?
I have a college textbook on visual arts, but it is more directed at an intermediate level.
I figured it would best to at least learn some basic lessons before I start studying it and practicing.

>>1705574

Loomis, of course.

You don't need to read a ton of books before you start, you could probably find a decent basic tutorial on the web, it's not about how many books you read, it's how much you apply yourself, Jesse.

>respect the anatomy

>>1705575
Got it. Thanks for the advice man. I just got out my sketchbook and such. I'll start practicing.

>>1705534
>Needs more consideration as to its value structure, patterns, and shapes.
Any tips on this?

How's this looking so far?

>>1705413
I remember you, you had a bunch of issues with the shadow of the rails, long time m8

>>1705518
>>1705534

The texture you're pulling off is really nice! Are you doing more opaque applications of painting to get that "thick" look to it?

Hi /ic/, long time no see.

I wonder if you could tell me how is this.
What should i focus, what should i improve, what am I lacking still.

Thank you.

Guys, I need help.

How do I fur?
How do I hair?
How do I can cave shading?
How do I make it less weird. I am not sure why it looks weird but it does for for some reason.

>>1705048
How do I be as good as you?

Guys, I need help.

How do I fur?
How do I hair?
How do I can cave shading?
How do I make it less weird. I am not sure why it looks weird but it does for for some reason.

>>1705048
How do I be as good as you?

>>1705697
pic

>>1705697
concave*

>>1705639

:) hey

yeah that entire image has come looong way, can't force myself to let it be

Tried to balance the image more with the color study. Like said before going for a lonely evening mood.
Feedback?

>>1705694
well i'd say your main problem is that you haven't got a lot of solidity in there. everything save the face and the lower arms is very squishy and formless.
also the pose is strange. google 'walk cycle' her other foot wouldn't stay flat on the ground like that if she's believably in motion. the whole pose looks sorta painful overall, honestly. ditto with the harp-hand, having a finger raised that high while the other fingers are pressed low is pretty uncomfortable if you try it yourself.

on the whole, your drawing aesthetic is cute, your colouring's not bad, work on your anatomy form and gesture.

>>1705710
do something else with the expression, she looks neither come-hither nor badass, just sort of blank gaze. also i'd de-emphasize the crease(i forget the name) below the nose and above the lips

im relatively new to this, so i decided to do an excercise in 1 point perspective. just wondering what you think so far

Just something fun and stylized I did before drawing seriously. Back to gestures and skulls now

>>1705794
I'm barely a beginner but it seems like the floor isn't aligned with the roof in the far back so the entire floor looks like its leaning

>>1705837
It's 2-point perspective, but yeah, maybe a bit much deforming

>>1705827
this is not a 1 point persp. In 1 point the VP is in the center of drawing.

>>1705848
1 point perspective is just when two axis are parralel to the picture's plane

>>1705698
Your drawing is preety good, but you don't seem to understand values and edges. What to do:

-Think of the bigger form (e.g. cylinder for the whole arm) and render it accordingly, then go for smaller details.
-Don't outline everything with a black line. Divide your image into lit areas and shadow areas and assign a value range to each area. (it's about being subtle)
-Think about the form. There is no such thing as "concave shading", just planes. Google "Ambient occlusion".
-Light intensity. The further from the light source, the darker.
-DON'T NEGLECT THE HANDS!

For hair and fur it's as easy as finding some reference and randering the bigs form first, then individual strands.

>>1705859

Hey guys i really need help, I'm working on this study/stylized thing with pastels right now(not done yet) and I could really appreaciate tips, what I'm doing wrong or if i am on the right track...thanks

Posted this on the wrong (?) topic. I need some redline on this pic, both in the guy's pose and Suzuri.

>>1705886
what is he doing?

>>1705887
Brushing his ovaries, isn't it obvious (?)

>>1705887
Staring at the fishes after he drew one.

>>1705889
I like this one.

im kinda happy with this. am i allowed to be?

>>1705882
Upd8 still would love tips...

>>1705910
the way you've shaded the pectoralis major makes it look bulbous but theres supposed to be a flatter(or maybe even concave) area below the pit of the neck

Also watch where the pecs insert into the arm. Deltoids are thinner at the top than they are closer to the middle. Also the figure looks like hes shrugging (i think thats unintentional), so fix the forms of the clavicle and the trapezius.

That neck looks odd.

>>1705909
cant say it reads well, but there are some really vibrant colors there anon

Drew it a few days ago on my phone (note 2), hope anyone likes it. Just got to drawing a few months ago, I know that I need to improve a lot, any advice would be appreciated :)

>>1705918

meh good enough for me

What do you think?

>>1705933
Very nice

>>1705933

Nice. Use bigger brushes.

how bad did I fuck up?
also how do you approach a study?

>>1705949
ref

>>1705937
>this

>>1704659
gr8

Hey.

I have about 15 different penis portraits.
I'd love to draw a massive one or two on canvas in colour. or even have my own gallery.

Started as a thing to cheer someone up, then I got a LOT of requests from friends and friends of friends.

Tips? I wanna be better, I'm not that good at drawing.

I might even make a kickstarter for it.

>>1705989
same goes with any figurative art, study anatomy. right now you're just making stuff up and adding random veins like this is DBZ. also learn to draw faces.

>>1705933
tracing is against the bro code, bro

>>1705491
Haven't updated much but thought id post the decropped.

Thanks for the pointers, lovely stuff sprias.

Hi, i think this is my second time on this board, the thing is; i started drawing after years and years of not really drawing anything when i bought this silly drawing thing for my nintendo 3DS because my friend had it too, thing is, i'm now totally hooked on drawing and i regret not starting sooner, so right now i'm looking for a drawing tablet and i'm sure this board get's asked this a lot, but i could really use your help in choosing one, i'm browsing the amazon.co.uk site now and i don't really know what i should look for in a tablet.

What are you guys using?

pic related, just drew it, it's not much but i'm happy how much i've made progress in just a week, a week ago i drew pretty much completely flat pictures.

>>1706011
thumb reads relatively swel
come back into it with a smaller brush and refine those shapes

drawthread always makes me want to kill myself.

>>1706021
I sincerely doubt the thread is responsible for that.

>>1706015

thanks man. i might actually go in there and try to carve out some form.

>>1706007
you might get more responses if you make a new thread

>>1706007
Get a Wacom Bamboo/Intuos depending on your budget. The size of the tablet also depends on your budget and/or your screen size. Eg: You don't want a small tablet when painting on a big ass screen

/ic/, what did I fuck up, and how do i get good?

>>1705916
THANK YOU!

Attempting another Bargue plate.

Trying to study glass objects.

>>1706178
>visible brush strokes
You may be interested in basic rendering course from ctrl +. It's on cgpeers.

>>1706003
I was not tracing, just very carefull measurement!

hey guys.
I've been having a need for beautiful scenery. So I've started doing thumbnail studies. Is there anything that could help me get a better hang on handling environments though? I suck at doing them from imagination.

>>1706241
wip of another, I'll continue tomorrow.

>>1706271
Work on your color and value temperatures a bit. a Balance between cool and warm applies to both darker and lighter values (not all shadows have to be 'cool' - some can be warm).

The bottom left is absolutely wonderful. Very lively.

How to draw pokemon more realistically?
I can't seem to turn cartoon animals into realistic.

Hey ic. Havent been so actively here, too busy learning mah fundamentals. So now gonna try creating a new portfolio piece. Using what I learned!

>>1706324
changed a bit and indicated how to form the composition. As where I'll put my lighting. Gonna start coloring now.

>>1706330
oops hehe

dat feel when permanoobs has been flooded like it was the zombie apocalypse. but some known faces are there. algen really timed it perfectly.

I drew 25 hands today.
What should I try and do better tomorrow for the other 25?

>>1706350
i think you should spend a little bit more time on each of them. It looks like you rushed some of them.
think of the fingers as individual cylinders and remember they obey the same laws of perspective as everything else

>>1706367

So I played a bunch of Chrono Trigger and got inspired to start a project to create a rag tag team of Heroes of various sorts. I am planning to documenting the whole trip as I have nothing better to do. It will be heavily inspired by jrpgs.

This is the generic swordsman that fight with a odachi that he refuses to unsheathe, because of reasons. I will go into more details after this, just want to hear your input.

>>1706348
What are you talking about?

>>1706380
it's bland.

>>1706383
It's called working a concept, but thanks for input.

>>1706384
why do you even bother posting if you haven't figured jack shit yet? make at least 3 designs of the character based on story/personality/ability then come back.the fuck you want basic figure with different colors WHOAAAAA

>>1706332
coloring uuut

>>1706271
did some more

>>1706293
Shadows are...very off. The bottle looks all kinds of fucked up, too. Is honestly the shape of it? I'd work more on your shading and the colors you use.

>>1704504

skull study
on to the next one

A wip, oil on canvas. Crits would be great

>>1706402

Wtf am I looking at?

fuaaaark so many hours,im pretty satisfied tho, nothing fancy but its a progress to me
colours are 70% intentional 30% gradient maps and filters lol
>>1706401
nice stuff especially last snowy ones
>>1706417
>>1706421
real nice
>>1706396
dont use only soft brush mate
>>1706319
do you want to drraw a realistic version of blastoise or just paint it realistically?you should look at actual animals either case

>>1706386
Sorry for being rude. I understand you, I came forth like a bitch.

I am designing from game perspective, which in my own theory should be connected to silhouettes and colors first and details later. In Chrono Trigger you have very distinct schemes for each character to translate well to the sprites.

The plan is to make a group picture in the end.

>>1706446

i dont know man i just went with the flow

random shit from random threads

>>1705949
You got nice rendering going on, I like the eyes, the one on our right especially. Try measuring stuff out multiple times and comparing each feature to each other feature to make sure you have everything in the right places before you start rendering. Artists, like carpenters, should always measure at least twice.

>>1706006
Looks great man, like the colours a lot. Only thing that sticks out to me is the legs, not sure if they're even sizes or not.

>>1706293
Good exercise to do definitely. I'd suggest getting all your measurements and such in pretty well before you start painting, and then go in first with big shadow shapes. Use big brushes and be brave anon, you're improving with every study you do remember.

>>1706348
People keep recognising me from here even though I post like once a month and stay super anon. It's awful.

>>1706350
Use 100% opacity on the next ones maybe, and take your time. When you hit 5000 hands they'll look sweet as hell.

>>1706364
Dig the legs and clothes.

>>1706401
Nice anon, the second one down on the right is my fav, them cool blues.

>>1706417
Nice, but would be better if the planes matched up. Door is uneven and lopsided, especially the frame.

>>1706449
Could get some more shadows in there anon, it'd help push out the forms. Keep it up.

>>1706476
Saw your thread on permanoobs mah nigguh, face on the top guy is sweet.

>>1706479
thx man, can i get your name ? we could be buddies and stuff. did you sign up on the forums as well ?

I tried to do a thumb with higher contrast on the objects after this one but didn't do so well. Should i try drawing the darker tones first then adding the lighter ones?

>>1706482
Sure man, added you as a friend on there. Don't know if you'll get a notification or what, but it should come up somewhere.

>>1706364
not continuing
base is too fucked

>>1704805
Update.

First time actually fully painting my face
Is it good or have I just been staring at it for too long?

>>1706495
Looks good. Sharpen the nose though.

>>1706483
dark as base, then add light

>>1706489
What brushes you use to give this "grain" to your pictures?

>>1706495
It's good. Some of the colors might be a bit too rich.

>>1704529
>playing
Fuck you. You talented piece of shit, I wish I could just shit something like this out.

>>1706503
Need some atmosphere in that, lower contrast the further it is from the viewer. Eye being led towards nothing maybe put a focal object at the end- a figure or some sort. Trees shouldn't align so uniformly, nor should they be so close to each other. Try to simplify that grass into a larger form and just indicate the ends of it

If youre going for a really sp00k4me shot you could do like a view from the ground and have the trees loom over. Colour scheme is alright, you got a mood going with the orange sky.

>>1706506
>>1706498
Thanks I'll definitely work on it some more when I get a fresher eye on the whole thing.

....dafuq?!?!? Since when are people on /ic/ good?!?

>>1706178
>considering you fucked up on my Wafiu

>>1705872
Thanks, that`s awesome and really helpful
I`ll work on those right now.

>>1705842
There is literally no such thing as 1 or 2 point perspective.
Everything in 3D has 3-point perspective. It's only a way to teach newbies to learn perspective.

>>1706251
>ctrl +
>cgpeers
I have no idea why people download FREE videos and waste hard drive space.

>>1705710
You need to focus how exactly the lighting is effecting the character.
You decided where the light is coming from, you tried to portray it but you had no idea how exactly it effects the larger forms.

The box is literally as bad as mine back in the day. Just why the lighting on the box of yours is bad and you'll get it for the entire thing.

>>1706525
No no, u must go further, not 3 point
5 point perspective is the only way for beginnners - definitely!

>>1706530
>Everything in 3D has 3-point perspective.

>LE GO 5 POINT PERSPECTIVE!

>>1706541
3 vanishing points are useful only if everything in your scene is aligned in 3 directions, like north-south, east-west, up-down. But you could have as many vanishing points as you wanted, it's just impractical

>>1704595
You are definitely getting better. Keep git gud!!

Guys, I can draw well digitally (not polished shit), but when I try to draw on paper it's like I don't know how to draw, the art totally sucks, why this keep happening?
I've been drawing for like 4 years, before that I never "did" something on paper because I've been always using my tablet.
How can I get off that cicle and transfer my knowledge to paper?
Thanks.

Gonna paint this tomorrow. Anything need fixing first?
>>1706489
Really like your work and how you render. Got a blog?
>>1706449
Really nice man. The thing that is bothering me the most is how the hands sort of just melt away near the bottom, especially the right one

Some old concept sketches

>>1706379
How can I make his eyes more "drunk"?

Final

>>1706547
seconded i wanna know too

Thanks to whoever posted those videos about dynamic sketching. Good stuff

>>1706529
Thanks, I'll make light source and lightning overall more clear and concise

>>1706580
Did someone post something other than that boring intro crap you can find on youtube?

>>1706568
oooo nice. Maybe do something with the bottom of the teeth as they kind of suck you out of the realism of it.

Holy shit, I think I figured out a minor trick to the Ruan/based chinese style value control by color picking an image. Basically they keep all the values within a super small range, and the average highlight is just about right in the middle at a midtone on the color picker. Some deep shadows are barely a smidge darker than some of the midtones/highlights. shiz is crazy but it looks magical.

It seems like its a code to crack, like once you get it, you get it. Anyone else made any amazing discoveries relating to this style?

>>1706595
Also it looks like they paint at almost 100% opacity, is this accurate?

how da fuq dey do it?

>>1706595
The concept is better known as value massing. On the thumbnail stage, you define your large shapes and essentially the value range permissible within each shape.

More on that here:
http://www.portraitartistforum.com/showthread.php?t=2238
(scroll down a little bit)

>>1706598
Oh my gosh, thank you.

How I learn to draw kids. Don't dare to say loomis.

>>1706611
Also, how I draw the head itself? I can draw the eyes, mouth, nose etc, but I can't draw the head.

>>1706590

>>/ic/thread/S1695694#p1695698


I think I could have done a better job if it wasn't this late (3 AM) I also wish I had more interesting things to draw from life.

>>1706611
>>1706622
Are you kidding me? That's exactly what Loomis is for.
His books are downloadable for free, so you can at least have a quick look through them.
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

>>1706627
Look dude, I tried loomis way many times but I can't draw his way, almost gave u of drawing because of it, it's too hard. I just want to learn how draw a decent head, that's all.

>>1706628

Try this one I learned lots from it and Fwiw I also couldn't get around Loomis.

character i plan to model in 3d. Any critiques would be appreciated.

>>1706628
In that case, I suggest drawing a lot of faces from life, with something like a brushpen. It will look like shit quite often, but you'll get a natural "feel" of what looks right, without having to use construction and you'll build a big visual library. Part of the faces will practically be from memory because people tend to move unexpectedly.
Also try Loomis' construction method on magazine pictures and what not: just draw the lines on top of the pictures.

>>1706630
Can I download it somewhere? I hope so, Google gives me nothing

>>1706633
Will draw tons of faces from life then. Thanks.

>>1706567
make one eyelid drop lower than the other

>>1706628
Ya I never followed loomis method of drawing the head, it's unnecessary steps

All you need are basic 3d forms and chip away the form that way...

>>1706653
Pls post pics/draw so I can understand.

>>1706653
I'd really like to see what an anti-loomis nerd's heads look like. Please post an example of your work!

>>1706423
you are trying to render too soon form starting.

more underpaiting is needed.

feels like you went into it from the start with a medium to small sized brush.

start loose and finish tight, even if working from a photo (i know you are because of that damn awful lense distortion).

other than that, i like the color pallet very much, good eye on that.

>>1706423
neato is that grisaille thang or an under-painting?

Ignoring the parts that aren't done or corrected yet (arms and hair), could anyone help me with the nose and eyebrows?
A quick redline would be very much appreciated!

>>1706716
Nice! Her legs do feel like they are amputated or something imo

>>1706726
Now that you mention it, I was unsure about the leg thing. I pretty much winged the horse part and tried hiding the legs in the plants, should probably change that.
Thank you though

>>1706596

there's some guy running around here too who wont shut up about how everyone should paint with 100% opacity

>>1706598
this is an interesting concept.Yet I've looked around some pictures and this doesn't apply too well.Yet the pieces look good.Like this pic.darkest light value easily goes into the lightest mid values and vice verca.Wouldn't that be concidered as "mudding" the values? And if so,why doesn't that look muddy ?

>>1706716
gj I like the feel

>>1706716

>>1706595
I found that it just fluctuates between cool and warm colours a lot and sticks to greys in between. In this method you could just probably start with black/white then add some hints of colour, but thats easier said than done

>>1706499
thanks. that works much better! it's pretty muddy right now but ill get the hang of it soon i hope.

any tunes you guys like listening to while you draw or do you just prefer silence?

>>1706334
kinda looks like David Choe's early work

>>1706631
been done to death, my main gripe is with the colour of the space suit. Orange and white is so cliche space core even tintin wore that shit.

>>1706334
saved

>>1705372
That hatching, really?
>Nose
>Cheeks
>Forehead

>>1704741
eyes are way too far apart. that may be why the face looks strange.

>>1705544
>muh style
Ignore this guy.

>>1706530
you're forgetting string theory posits 11 dimensions. 11-point perspective is the only way to teach beginners to properly observe the real world.

>>1706573
>>1706547
1. build time machine
2. use it to ctrl+z every time you screw up your drawing.

Hey I just found this program called Krita for digital artwork; anyone have anything to say about it at all?

>>1706255
They all say that, you are just cheating yourself.

>>1706669
it looks like this:
>>1706611

I'm not going anywhere with this,
starting another one instead of wasting more time.

halp

Quick study

>>1706774
Thanks!
>>1706775
That helps ALOT, thank you so much!

I just finished this one.
Since nobody on deviantart cares to comment, critique pls...
3.5 hours so far.

>>1707075
(I used a photo as reference)

>>1706611
>look at mirror
>draw
wow look at that, a convenient reference

>>1706396
progress

>>1707040
play around more with edges, your values are pretty good but all the edges are kinda soft

>>1707075
Looks solid

>>1707160
tanks, luv u :)

>>1706761
>Yet the pieces look good.Like this pic.darkest light value easily goes into the lightest mid values and vice verca
Are you sure about that, and it isn't just in a focal point? Focal points can break this 'rule' because they need to stand out from the rest of the piece through contrast (not just value of course, but color, edge, content, types of lines, etc).

It's also possible that you may be misinterpreting what shapes belong to the lights, and which shapes belong to the darks. It's equally possible that the value massing 'rule' is being broken. The apparent breaking can also be due to how the painting was converted to grayscale (assuming it was), as some methods don't do an accurate job of converting some colors to their true value.

Regardless, all that matter is a good read from the thumbnail, which this piece does well. That's really the primary goal - value massing is simply a tool to make that happen more consistently and with great control. It's not always needed, but it's one of the many ways a painting can differ from a photograph. It's up to the artist what they want to emphasize and what they want to omit. 'Breaking' the value massing at select places is one way to go about this.

>>1706795
>>1706795
Any idea when and where would you apply the cools and warms?

>>1707434
cool lights - warm shadows or cool shadows - warm light

I have been trying for hours to get this fucking punching pose right. I've done tons of gestures, and I cant get it to look right. It's supposed to be a wind up to a punch in the viewer's face.

Redlines would be appreciated. Or telling me what's off with it.