/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1702515
I hate photo sampling for paintings but I suck so bad at painting environments I kind of have to resort to it for this work, any advice?

>>1702516
>any advice?

get out of your comfort zone

Scifi gal from last night

>>1702520
nice. did you use a reference for the face. kinda looks familiar

>>1702521
Thanks, nope, i did not

>>1702519
I know I tried, and I want to start painting more environments but I never know where to start with practice, I did some value studies but even that was pretty difficult for me, I did post a painting I did without sampling in one of the last threads.

Nearing completion. Any critique/advice is really appreciated!

>>1702515

>>1702515

>>1702535
the cheek on the sideview seems wrong. that's not how it would translate into the sideview if i am not mistaken(dont take my word for it though, unless someone else agress with me).

I'm trying to give it a creepy look , how is it ? Any tips ?

>>1702528
Her eyes are too small

Help ;-;

>>1702531
I feel like that rock formation should cast a shadow on the ground..
The composition seems a bit dull to me, maybe add something in the background?

>>1702529
nice colors, the thumb looks great. Are you going to do more about it?

>>1702520
isn't the eyes a teeny tiny bit too far apart?
Evertything else looks amazing

If I were to just be drawing daily, what sort of things would help me improve in general?

>>1702581
Ironing out your fundamentals, drawing a lot from life, and critically assessing where you are weakest and tackling that.

>>1702582
I was thinking more of direct subject matter. I've been spending alot of my drawing time lately just finding pictures of people and redrawing them but I feel like theres better thing I could be doing, as in environments, or old master studies, or something along those lines. But im not exactly sure which of those might be worth the time if they are at all.

>>1702569
Looks creepy as fuck at the moment
Seems to be drooping down to one side.
I tried to flip it so you can see what your're dealing with.

The colors on the shadow of the neck looks nice, but it looks like you started usin black when putting shadows on the face?

>>1702581
Practice whatever you find hard. Then you'll improve

>>1702585
Variety is good.

Drawing from life and master copies are the most informative.

>>1702574

:V :V :V :V :V :V :V

love you anon. not gonna work more on either though. i agree that the thumb of the blueish castle reads great, but full size its a fucking disaster. i always manage to do that somehow. thanks for the feedback, rly appreciate it!

>>1702586
Thank you ! I wanted it to look creepy , but i didn't intended for it to be dropping.Going to fix that right now.
I used sepia for the shadow , i guess it didn't worked out very well :(

>>1702603
I did this before the reply , i'm going to fix a few things , like the dropping face

I've been failing to draw a nose for a while
also help me spot mistakes please

>>1702606
Is it supposed to be human?

>>1702608
it's supposed to be half-elf

I'm really sorry to be interrupting you, I promis this is the last time, and if you don't want to respond to this, just ignore me, I'll go away.

I am the person who asked in the last thread how does /ic/ feel about tipping. Is it a thing here? Would you welcome such a thing? Whould you despise it?
Some fine folks have developed a tipobot for 4chan that is kinda convenient to use, there are also a couple of cryptocurrencies that were born right here on 4chan (first on /g/, then had to move to /biz/, because moot).

I'll be hanging around for some time if you have any questions. And big thanks in advance for any answers.

Pic unrelated, a shot of stereotyped characters I took.

cat

some sketches, half are studies other half is from mind

>>1702653
anon, do you happen to have a Tumblr so I can stalk you? ._.

>>1702655
http://malinfalch.tumblr.com/

knock urself out

value/face studies from imagination. thoughts ?

>>1702626
Okay, can't contain myself.
Anon, if you're like this IRL too, then you are one of those "creepy guys". Learn to phrase what you want to ask concise and direct.

>>1702605
The white of the eyes is not actually white. Eyeballs are a sphere covered by the eyelids, so you should consider the cast shadow and form shadows that form on the surface of the eye. Flat white eyes are creepy too.

>>1702672
i like the one on the right,
I'd like to see you push the lighter values a bit more.

>>1702672
A bit rough, but it looks okay. Proportions are nice, and the face viewed from below reads well. You also have a pretty decent understanding on the anatomy of the face, which is really nice. There are other faults, but they are minor. Although the lightsource is a bit vague. To really push your understanding, try other settings with single lightsource that is more dramatic.

(/_\ )

>>1702698
>>1702605
My idea was for the girl to be creepy , i guess it's working ?
Any more advice on how to improve the painting ?
Updating

Just a quick pet portrait that I'm doing for a friend's birthday. He's seen the picture already and loves it, so I'm not to worried about making it perfect. But I'm not entirely happy with where it's at right now. I will clean up the edges some, but another friend that saw it said that it looks better 'rough' that if I clean it up it will just look like a picture and that's boring. Thoughts?

>>1702725
About the eyes, depends on your intention. You can push your realism and use some shadow on her eyes, and rely on other factors to bring out the creepiness, like her expression, colors, etc. You can leave it at that if you think so. But to me, flat white eyes is a mark of an amateur artist, so do as you like. I'm starting to think that making her creepy is not your original intention though.

Other than that, define the neck area. She looks like a momiji doll right now. For the proportions, the philtrum is too defined, and maybe the space is a bit too much, but that can be ignored. The ears are also too small. Yes, the length of ears, when viewed straight from the front, will usually start from the eye area and end at at the nostrils. But you should consider the tilt of the head when drawing ears.

The colors are also monotonous and bland. Introduce more hues, and maybe experiment with the saturation of your colors. Also, mind your color temperature. Maybe cool the shadows and making the parts exposed to light more warm? Creepy as it is, it's not a particularly interesting painting, so you have some room to improve your painting more. Feel free to add more artistic touch though, doesn't have to be 100% realism in terms of colors.

Try to refer to master painters for pointers and inspiration.

>>1702712
>>1702714
cool, i'll work on that thx!

Any defects before I start painting? Debating keeping her left arm like that.

I can't draw faces in loomis way. Is there any other artist that teachs how draw faces?

>tfw cant >feel the gesture

can I have some help with this pose? I want her to be riding a horse and holding the reins but i have no fucking clue how to start doing that.

>>1702782
pretend you're riding a horse
look at pictures of people riding horses
etc.

>>1702719

tumblrcore as fuck

>>1702733

I am in love with the left dog's eyes. I like it the way it is now, rough. If you work on it any more the lines are going to be too harsh.

How to git gud?

I just finished this.

>>1702754

Loomis is lame. Learn the Vilppu way.

Thank fucking god for tablets. I would have such a fucking mess everywhere if I tried to draw a good circle on paper.

>>1702801
So much this, I've saved so much on paper. And don't tell me that's all you're doing for today.

>>1702802
I'm just trying to find something that I actually want to practice with.

>>1702803
Digital is fun. And as far as wanting to practice goes If you're consistent enough you'll start to miss when you're not drawing.

WIP of another quick portrait request.

First time doing a portrait in PS too

>>1702804
What I mean is reference material. A lot of it seems to be really low res and blah blah blah.

>>1702735
Thank you , that was really really helpfull
I'm a begginer when it comes to color and painting ,this is my second oil painting.I hope that i can make this painting work.
Actually in my first painting it wasn't intentional , but it started to creep out some people , so i tried to do the same in this one.Being real honest i don't really know what i'm doing.
I will try experimenting ,and make it more interesting.
One of the artists that i have as reference regarding these "creep eyes" is Lu Cong
But i din't refer to any painters while painting , could you indicate some for me ?

>>1702515
C-Can I get that original picture? I need it forr... study.

>>1702805
Got to git gud like you. You are a beacon of inspiration, anon.

>>1702805
Holyshit...once again you've surprised me with your improvement.

guys
how. do I. into. color.

I know I'm obviously a beginner and I can sort of barely get the form and light patterns but the color is just damn.

>>1702825

Don't make your shadows with gray and black. Use cool colors like blue and green. Similarly, with warm colors, use red and orange and yellow. Never add black or white to your colors, because you'll end up with a muddy, flat picture.

I'm just learning my anatomy so I did a little cheat sheet from Sycra's video to print and tape in front of my desk. Super simple major muscles w/ some personal notes so I remember what's where and why. I'll learn the tinier ones after I figure out how these work.

Ignoring spelling mistakes and handwriting, can I get a quick check up to see if this is correct?

Trying to do more stuff with markers, like set up mood and all that. I'm not really sure where to go from here so I called it done, but I'm interested to see what people have to say.

Cheers.

tryin to make this ho
in to a ro bo

>>1702784

derp thanks for the critique

Via colored pencil
Been listening to some Nirvana

>>1702801
I should've kept doing what I did last time and just used a fucking reference image.

>>1702819
>>1702821

Thanks for the support guys. it means the world to me. I hope we all make it!

I think it's done, I'm probably going to add some minor details/fixes in the morning if something looks off. I also got too carried away and spent more time than I had expected but I felt it helped me tremendously to get used to PS.

Torn between loyalty and love, the queen flirted regularly with this knight. His weakness for women found him murdering the King in her lovers name. With the throne usurped, the queen placed her son on the throne and ruled in secrecy. She had her lover sent to be executed as anything less would expose her plot. He wept and cried to her but nothing could dislodge the queen. The queen ruled wisely until her son became of age. On her death bed she held her adviser close and whispered “The kingdom, the army, and my love, my knight….”

I tried to draw Morgan Freeman

>>1702865
so you are firez, god damn, now i see why your name pops up quite often.

>>1702870
yeah yeah yeah, it would be better if you made something beyond doodles

>>1702809
I need sauce on the artist, please.

>>1702865
Noice.

>>1702890
I could probably come around to the guy's drawings if he didn't do the same things over and over again.

>>1702883
Thumbnail's nice, but the construction seems off.

>>1702914
The bread of the sandwich to the right kind of looked like wood for a sec.
Yummy, though.

>>1702890
"We swore to the king to protect the empire, and the lot of you no good knights thought death absolved you of that oath! Well to hell with heaven!"

>>1702870
Kind of agree with anon, but yeah. Put as much story and emotion from your writing into your drawings. Combined they could bring one to tears with all them feels T^T

>>1702815
I don't have it, it was a study thead months ago, you can have the one without scribbling though.

my latest pic, i tried to step out of my comfort zone and added some half ass characters to the scene...

>>1702957
VERY nice..

>>1702957

color temperature brah

a little mindless fun to relax after studies and such

do you always need to use all the value range?

>>1702983

absolutely not.

>>1702973
nice, it seems like a good exercise actually.

>>1702973
Awesome.
I believe it would be nicer if you applied those cartoony proportions with realistic rendering to a drawing of yours (kind of like what Dan luvisi does) instead of just being a paint over, but whatever man, it looks really nice, do you have a site?

Any thoughts before I start the usual process of cooking this to death with rendering?

An attempt to do a sort of Ross Campbell-ish baby-faced Warrior Woman. Samantha Wright meets Grace Jones sort of thing.

>>1702838
This one is much better than the one you posted in your own thread.

>>1702973
disgusting

>>1702787
Any thoughts on mine?

>>1703001
Sorry to say it, but it's just really bad...

>>1702996
This looks really cool.
But is she standing in water or mud or something?
It just seems really odd with the legs cut off like that :/

>>1702996
arm holding the sword is enormous, elbow should hit the waist but it hits the illiac crest here, also the hand is to wide, not sure if it is to long( given the baby face aspect), but it is definitely too wide, free-deform to make it coherent with the other arm / body, should do the trick.

>>1703003
She's standing in... something. Gore, swampy stuff. It's pencils/paper so composition wise there's no chance of getting the rest of her legs/feet on there, plus I just kind of like the whole standing in something awful while looking badass trope.

>>1702996
Yeah, I've just flipped it in PS, she's definitely heavier on the right. I could easily slim down her arm, bring that elbow in line. Good call.

>>1702911
The artist is Lu Cong

>>1703002
yeah i figured you d/ic/ks wouldn't be into it ah well.

Where can I get some well shot face refs?

>>1703009
Don't blame your audience for your shortcomings.

>>1703009
It could be much better if you wouldn't draw so many symbols of shapes, and would draw with actual shapes, form, tone, values to make your point.

>>1703019
Not blaming anyone I know it's not the sort of thing that gets posted here.
>>1703021
Thank you for the advivce. I deliberately left it as empty as possible no tone or values. It may seem weird but that's what I wanted.

>>1703024
It's not about board tastes, it sucks on a very basic level. Stop making excuses and go learn the fundamentals.

>>1703026
Right. Its amazing how closed-minded /ic/ is.
Don't worry I'll take my art elsewhere. You can keep your loomis.

>>1702983

>>1703053

>not finding skillless garbage appealing
>being close-minded

pick one fag

>>1703053

>close-minded
>implying your shit is any good
>implying you came here for anything other than to show off

DeviantArt is calling for you.

>>1703053
go back to deviantart if you want a circlejerk around your shitty drawing, everyone will say nice things about so you give them llama badges

>>1703070
>>1703065
>>1703061
There's no need to be rude, let the guy do whatever he wants to do.

>>1703072
If /ic/ didn't react this way these kinds of people would be flooding in

>>1703053
With that kind of arrogance, idiocy and neglect, you're not going anywhere in this art thing, you're not going anywhere in life actually, so you might as well leave now and focus on something else before wasting your time arguing with /ic/, and starting to believe that you're "opening our eyes to the truth" or whatever. The board has the bullshit quota on check by that abstract fag and that asshole who thinks the sticky is bad voodoo.

>>1703053
Personally I really love the minimalistic drawings like this but yours just sucks I'm sorry (it doesn't suck as bad as your attitude though) If you at least have some point to make it can be nice but it seems to me that you are too lazy to actually try so you make sitty line drawings with the pretense that is has some deeper meaning.

Take Will Larel for instance, he draws these imperfect line drawings with poor fundamentals but they have some purpose, they are funny, there is a reason to looking at it. What do you expect the audience to get out of your drawing? what experience are you offering?

>>1702787
In all honesty, you may have an interesting concept in mind, but the execution of that is lackluster. There's nothing in it for the viewer. And if you blame the audience for not "appreciating" your art there's a saying that goes: If there's one asshole, that person's an asshole; If everyone's an asshole, you're the asshole"

Plus, the technical execution is not there, just by looking at how the unnecessary background line to assume a perspective or give some sort of framing element that doesn't even touch the subjects it a subtle depth. Even if you're going for minimalistic drawings, some level of fundamentals would go a long way, since every stroke and shape counts.

To add to all that, there is no unifying visual harmony between the subjects found in this.This would have been probably better if you cut each subject from this drawing and make each of them stand-alone drawings.

Keep trying.

>>1702809
Huh. Those are some interesting eyes. It's like they're completely flat. No depth. No light or shadows. Which gives them a really weird contrast to the rest of the face, and the whole effect looks horrendously WRONG in a way that isn't really obvious at a glance. This Lu Cong certainly seems to know his stuff.

They're staring into my soul please help

For about a week I've been doing poses of some girls from my reaction picture folder, and I wanna hear your freedback about them.

>>1703119

>>1703120
This one is from a reference, so that's kind of cheating.

>>1703059
any critique is appreciated

>>1703121

>>1703122
So, what do you think?

>>1703098
Thank you for taking the time to write a honest critique. I actually agree with you there is really no harmony and the composition just isn't really ..there. I realize I was being an asshole. I just felt I had to defend my work.

>>1703087
I wanted to offer a feeling of emptiness and also maybe longing. I don't want to make comics.

>>1702638

>>1703125
get good in drawing before painting.

Any suggestions to improve this, or just make it more interesting?

>>1703137
Doing a bad paintover brb

Might need to touch this up a bit more

>>1702973
This sounds fun

Is this a bad way to learn rendering or is this more of just a fuck around type of thing to do

>>1703124
I'm not saying you have to make comic it was just an example.
>I wanted to offer a feeling of emptiness and also maybe longing
well you completely and utter failed at that, literally all I see are two figures in random flat poses with no real composition to speak of and some circle with space in it.

compare your image to this one I posted, okay maybe you don't want this much detail but it tells a story the figures are clearly interacting and gesticulating and the environment actually works into the whole narrative. Honestly I'm not a fan of this particular drawing either but I think it's similar enough to what you were trying to portray to make a point. Everything in your image is static and disjointed, compared that to this which is pretty dynamic and interesting, it keeps the viewer reading at least to try and figure out what is might all mean.

Don't just say 'fuck the fundamentals' Okay maybe you don't want to master anatomy, that's clearly not your goal but you SHOULD attempt to be at least proficient at the fundamentals while mastering those that actually apply to you which I think composition may be one of them, and at least try and make an effort to portray some kind of symbolism if you are going for fine art.

>>1703186

I don't really use this for the prospect of learning things.It's more or less a substitute for video games really.Just half an hour taken to shut off my mind to some mindeless render so that I can stop constantly analyse if I did the edges right or if the proportions are correct and such.In all honesty I don't recommend this if you intend to actually exercise.It's more or less just to fuck around on someone else's work. so-to-speak

this one is not mine

Any background video tutorials? Pic related this is me attempting...

selfportrait from mirror

>>1702973
the mouth is disturbing, but everything else looks pretty neat

>>1703132
Nice values you got there

goofing around with landscapes

>>1703124
>I just felt I had to defend my work.
Get the fuck off of the internet until you turn 15, then. Feeling the need to "defend" your shitty scribble just shows what an insecure faggot you are about your shortcomings. Your drawing sucks-- it honestly does. I'm not laying it on thick because of le epic internet hate machine-- it looks like you spent all of fifteen minutes on a half thought out 2deep4us doodle. Then you slop it on here and act like a baby when we rightfully shit on it. Get the fuck out of here.

>>1703137
>>1703159
Back
Okay, so I tilted the image to make the character more falling/jumping. He seemed too have a little too much balance for someone who is falling/ jumping, like he is just standing on one leg.
changed the colors a bit to more warm tones, to make it fit more with the explosion.
Brought his leg and arm more in the background.
Gave that fucker an ear.
Also the hair was really bad and stiff, gotta work on that bro.
His right arm and the gun seems weird to me, but i don't know how to fix it
I really hopes this helps.
Otherwise, sorry for wasting your time

>>1703273
idk y you're so mad.
where's your work?

Fuuck I'm so mad. An hour and it still looks like shit. How do people do these in like 30 minutes?!

>>1703291
weird i was just watching pornography of a girl who looks just like that.

>>1703293
That's so concerning.

>>1703277
That's actually pretty great man thanks, I'll be getting on that now

I also feel stupid now for forgetting about ears...

>>1703253
Thank you
>>1703132

>>1703295
you're welcome
Don't worry, it could happen to any of us XD

>>1703296
in review, not that similar, although i maintain there is some resemblence

h-how do you add color?
im failing miserably

>>1703291
>>1703296
I hope that now you can see both thumbs at the same time, that the eyes on yours is not aligned, the highlights in the hair is too bright, the same goes for the arm, and the lower part of the neck.
Anyway, keep practicing and I promise is will get easier :)

>>1703307
Great values but the eye seems a bit too high up

>>1703317
Actually, I fixed so many things thanks to seeing that thumbnail. Thanks!

>>1703291
an hour is nothing, don't worry about how long you are taking, the people who do them in 30 minutes already know what they are doing, you don't yet (which is fine) keep practicing and don't rush it unless your goal is actually to be able to paint faster (which it shouldn't be yet).

Steampunk Venus Fly trap.

trying to apply what I learned by making a drawing from imagination. I already see much improvement than from 5days ago or so. And yeah shoulders are too wide I think..

>>1703325
I want to learn how to paint, but should I just focus on drafting faces with lines before I jump to painting?

Doing body studies are so much easier...

>>1703332
yes well you really need to know how to draw before you can paint, no harm in doing some painting studies in between but focus on drawing fundamentals, or you will make the same mistake as me, it got to where I could do some pretty nice studies but I couldn't paint from imagination at all, or even paint any complex scene, so I am suffering the consequences now.

I should learn hands, huh
I guess I can always Powerpuff it out

>>1702914
Winston?

>>1702996
That troll head's features are lopsided and melting. Construct the skull first, and remember that only the mandible moves. After that's in place the softer movable forms on top, and let things pull and stretch as needed.

Done in oil ,with a pallete knife

>>1703123
Highlights on the eyes are a little too bright. The back bottom of the cranium is a little too high - it should loosely line up with the bottom of the nose give or take.

The tip of the nose and the nostrils are extremely misshapen. Familiarize yourself with the anatomy of the nose and it's major planes. Proko has a video on youtube that's a decent primer.

>>1703354
That's kinda cool. I'd plan out your large value shapes for improved readability. Grab a thumbnail size of your image and flatten it out to about 2-5 large flat value shapes. When you have that reading well, use that to guide and inform your value ranges for each section of the painting.

>>1703390
The eyes might be a bit far apart. Were you working from a model, photo or memory?

>>1703395
Model, i should start to focus more on the drawing before i start the painting , but i always end up rushing it :(

>>1703398
Take your time to mark off your landmarks and proportions before beginning the construct and block-in. Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakaoQ9L1RM

>>1703398
>>1703399
And I forgot to add:
Try to focus on the overall forms, and the major planes and how they are affected by the direction of the light sources.

>>1703133
Are my values okay at least? Or can I have some more in-depth critique?

>>1703053
>gets critiqued on every board hes posted his drawings on
>bitches about it like a 14 year old
Grow the fuck up, man.

Work work...

>>1703332
Okay, I give up.

Not ready to paint faces yet.

some progress on slutty jinx

>>1703429
i absolutely love this. any more?

>>1703436
looks good, her arms dont seem to have the same size/length
>>1703429
try to make your value shifts smoother if its form shadow. also, pick a ref that is not overexposed.>>1703316 this is already better.

I think you are ready to paint faces, just paint a lot more of them :)

faces from today, gonna do a value study of one of them now

I dont know what am I doing, how does one render?

>>1703446
For real? Thanks! I don't have any more, but I guess I'll do more now!

>>1703447
Okay, thanks! I'm trying to avoid using a soft brush at all costs, so working on smooth transitions is so hard.

>>1703414
Done i guess :P

Making the transition from analog to digital, trying to paint some metal textures, not a drawing, just some exercise

looks nothing like clark gable

>>1703480
looks like he's saying
>lube up!

>>1703483

>>1702515
Dear diary,
Today I found out that I HATE drawing clean lineart.

>>1703487
Don't be sad, embrace it.

It will be over soon.

>>1703475
you're not.You have the values and construction done.Now you have to clean that shit up

>>1703500
Do i really have to?
I think it' looks pretty much like the reference

Oh, well if you say so :)
But it'll have to be tomorrow (it's 1 am here)
Goodnight d/ic/ks <3

>>1703511
>Do I really have to?
Not if you don't want to get any better, it looks good for a wip but really doesn't look like finished material at all

>>1703436
love your style dude. do you have a tumblr or something?~

also tried my hand at quick scenery picture. values kill me still. i need to do some more of these

>>1703539
I agree. Learn to assess and refine before you call something "finished."

>>1703122
You broke her fucking back!

>>1703457
Your line work is awesome... I suspect the second figure looked better before you started to render.
>can't help with rendering, sorry

he's very excited

>>1702890
I agree, at first I liked his style but now it just looks like a dusty running gag. Which is a waste because obviously he's good.

>>1702917
>could probably come around to the guy's drawings if he didn't do the same things over and over again.

come to what exactly ? Most of them are copies of pictures from encyclopedias like Osprey.Just ignore him.He's doing it for the attention anyway.

>>1703573
Most of them are copies of pictures from encyclopedias like Osprey.
I'm wondering what you mean by this?

>>1703559
I love drawing monsters, you can do anything

>>1703484
Maybe I would not hate it if I wasn't so effing slow.
Taking a break.

hue

>>1703137
pretty generic and bland dude

>>1703277
That dagger is shit. building looks like made by 2 year old.

>>1703447
and the study. looks pretty mediocre. might have to do a few studies from a ref

Sometimes I feel like I'm not improving, then I look at art I made a year ago
.>>1703559
I like the textured brushes your using. Are you going to add another leg?

A sketchbook piece I've been working on. I'm having trouble with the composition, maybe it's just to much at once without enough forethought but yea, let me know what you think I should focus on.

Need advice on the pose.
I want to paint a nonchalant character, like someone who gets gobbles up by his thoughts and loses touch with the outside world every now and then, but
I feel like this pose gives more of a douchbag vibe? Opinions? What do?

>>1703621
I wish this board had mods, specifically for these crits.

Anon step your crit game up. That was an awful contribution. It's like showing your buddy a bad drawing and he doesn't know why it's bad, because he doesn't know how to draw.

And I know these comments are a dime a dozen, but this is just uhg. You can't even point out what's wrong with the dagger? You can't suggest something better with the background? The arrangement of the buildings? The strange bloom shading of the explosion? The weak gesture and anatomy?

Shame on you anon. It should be a 2 day ban for your comment. That is all.

>>1703559
Awesome rendering on the shoulder/neck m8

>>1703542
could i get opinions on this? trying to expand from just character sketches and working on landscapes a bit

>>1703631

>>1703716
The rock walls look way to smooth and are too much of one value. Make the more textured. They're also what my eyes are drawn too, when I think what you want to be the focal point is the rock formation to the left.

Continue? Scrap?
Colour/value troubles...

>>1703721
ah okay~ i gotcha. i need to work on rendering in some textures. did this as a quick practice to also try and work on my values.

>>1703729
work on gesture!! and an archer uses a quiver and preps an arrow when he's prepared to shoot.

Took some advice from the questions thread, starting second study.

I spent so long measuring I hope it pays off ;_;

I'm just so incredibly bad at measuring. Several times I overlayed and the lines were just all off. Erased and started again.

>>1703738
You did a great job capturing the likeness of the subject! The only thing I feel is off, is his ear. You got the placement right, but in the ref, the top of his ear juts out more from the head the how you made it.

>>1703559
khazix/10

>>1703738
You've made both of the eyes a bit too tall, the bottom of his right nostril a little low, and the bottom of the chin a little low. His jaw also need to be a bit wider, and his right cheekbone a bit higher. These small differences add up when you're going for a likeness, but you're very very close! The eyes and the chin was the only thing I noticed before I overlayed the two, so that's a good sign.

The next tricky part is to preserve and recover the drawing as you paint it. Be mindful of the light sources, major planes, and the overall forms. Pay close attention to how soft/hard edges are in comparison to other edges. And most of all, re-check all of your landmarks to make sure nothing got fudged up in the painting process.

In future studies, I want you to make the entire drawing using only straight lines. If something is curved, have a point at the curve's apex instead. If the curve is barely noticeable, just leave it as a straight. This will give your drawing more structural solidity, as straights are more definitive than curves (it also makes painting the major planes easier). Most of all, all of the points you introduce now serve as additional landmarks for comparing to the reference. It's also much easier to compare lengths and angles of line segments to see how it differs from the ref than it is for curves. Curves can always be added in later after the fact when you're painting (or in the final step of the drawing if you don't intend on painting it).

>>1703699

>>1703735
Whelp, gesture too? Do you have any hints on what pose would be better suited?
So much too learn~
Guess I'll move on to a study now. I'll def try again to paint this when I've gotten better.

>>1703699
>>1703754
>I want to paint a nonchalant character, like someone who gets gobbles up by his thoughts and loses touch with the outside world every now and then, but
>I feel like this pose gives more of a douchbag vibe?

In regards to that goal: study body language, whether it be from people in real life, actors, animation, etc. Find people/characters that have the characteristics you're looking for, and study how they act and compose themselves.

>>1702520
Femshep?

>>1702888
>>1702917
Thanks!

>>1702973
For a moment I thought kyle was doing new body types.

>>1703175
>>1703173
Nice, you F1 car seemed a bit more polished but they are all around nice like true 3D renders.

>>1703638
Can I get some critique?

>>1703788
That depends on what you're trying to do with it. His left eye is a little small and and high, his left ear is high, his neck is long, there's poor use of values, etc. All of that could have been intentional though so it's hard to give critique at this stage. It just looks like a doodle to me.

>>1703791
Well, I did make the neck unusually long, but the other are two facts are pretty legitimate. I always struggle with values.

How bad does this suck? Trying to get a handle on landscapiness

I've been an art student for years, and this is my first attempt at digital work.

She's a D&D character I'm playing, Greg Land'ed over a photograph.

>>1703799
That central tree on the left side is terrible. It also catches the eye too much with the (what seems to be unusual) amount of light peaking through. Most of the right half of the painting isn't that bad. I like those white staff pillar things. The flower beds/bushes next to them don't read very well, and I'm still not 100% sure that they are what I think they are. They almost read like rock, or a large large pinecone.

>>1703651
Can someone give me some critique? I'm looking for some compositional design pointers

>>1702515
For the ic skype group topic

Please be rough. I'm not terribly happy with it, but I think it's a step forward from my incessant faux-pencil sketches.

>>1703767
Already doing what you mentioned. Any help with this drawing in particular?

>>1703810
Damn, you are definitely right about those bushes now that I look at them. I'm so used to rendering hard or lumpy like surfaces. Like with this I lay down a mark and it looks blobby and solid. How do you effectively make leafy type stuff?

>>1703810
Oh actually I think I know what happened with those bushes. They were supposed to be white flowers and I think i smushed them around and now they just look weird..

>>1703741
>>1703751
Thank you guys. I spent a while doing this and it's still a WIP. It's super muddy even though I laid out the big values. Theres still some likeness issues - facial structure, mouth and nose are off... Argh!

>>1703889
Well, there are quite a few issues with the head. First, you have the bridge of the nose starting way too high, effectively eliminating the keystone. Compare the start of the nose and the eye sockets that you have with any anatomically correct skull. You have some likeness here to the actor who plays Abed on Community, so I'd see if you could find a few stills to use as a loose ref.

Next, you have issues with fine details and contrast in the face - namely too much of both. You have areas like the cheeks painted in with large brush strokes that describe plane changes, but the eyes and nose look drawn on like a cartoon. Try using bigger brushes in those areas, be more subtle with your lights and darks, and pay attention to edge quality in the region.

You have some strange asymmetry with the collar(?) of the jacket. His shirt collar also looks like it's painted on skin - no real sense of form to it. The body is also drawn in a different style than the face, and you also have inconsistencies with the direction of the light source.

>>1703892
>>1703893
I suspect there's also too many deep blacks in the bush. They read as deep holes, and given their quantity this adds to that pine cone-like effect.

A few of those blacks are good where they help to describe the overall form, like the blacks on the left side (our left) of the bush that's on our right. The deep blacks adjacent to the flowers is the problem.

>>1703738
>>1703741
>>1703751
Thanks guys!
Here's an update. I've never rendered so much before. The sun is rising, I should take a break.

>>1703901
Not bad.

Some of your edges are much harder than they should be. The top edge of his upper lip, his left iris (our right), and his hairline for example. I'd also be mindful of your values in and around the eyes. You overstated the brightness of the highlights, making them look cartoonish. Try using as few values to describe the eyes as possible, keep those values low contrast, and keep edges softer than you think you need. It's easy to bump up the contrast or sharpness if you need to, but chances are you wont. As an exercise, grab a portrait by a master painter (Sargent maybe), and use the eyedropper tool to see what values and colors he uses to describe the eyes. How do those values compare to the lights and darks on the skin? Chances are they aren't substantially different.

Your approach for the hair is just bad. Stay away from thin brush strokes - use a very large brush and paint in masses of hair. Google 'Gurney Ribbon Technique' and read the first link that appears.

>>1703922
Was meant for >>1703921

I guess you reposted it, as the edge of the lip is a little better.

>>1703587
Reached my max.

>>1702653
Beautiful line work. The legs on that horse. Mah dick.

>>1702957
Nice perspective and all that, but the building still looks too much like plain blocks to me. The tree looks a little too copy/paste too. Maybe add something else to the foreground for even better dpethdepth. Other than that, nice sense of space.

>>1702973
>>1703196
Reminds me of something jdawg did the other day, but I don't have much else to say about it. Really like the chick on the right in the One Piece paint over though.


Just felt like drawing Michelle Fairley after watching GoT earlier.

Pls respond.

>>1703500
>>1703539
>>1703543

Okay, so how does one refine? :/ Softer and smaller brushes?

>>1703943
more or less, it's fixing edges mainly, that and accents.

>>1703913
Wow, that's a critique way more in depth than I expected! Thanks anon.
I wanted to get somewhere in between realism and a cartoon. I didn't plan out how I'd achieve that, that must be why it became such a mess.
And the nose bridge seems obvious now, but I hadn't noticed at all ;_;
Jacket is down to lack of studies. Will now look up the actor you mentioned and gather some clothing references.
Thanks again!

>>1703943
Smaller brushes might make it muddier, so be careful. See >>1703945, it's more blending to soften - for which you can use soft brushes.
And this is my personal opinion, if you were merely doing a value study, there would be no need to polish the result. If you want to practice rendering and bringing your pieces to a nice finish, then go ahead.

I looked at john singer sargent and his paintings of women in dresses, and then did this quick and rough thing from imagination

>>1703956
top kek

>>1703933
pls halp.
How do I better?

>>1703962
uhm, I donno, i think the bold black line around the figure seems like a bit too much.
The construction seems fine to me, a little sad that you're hiding the hands, and i looks to me like the ear is almost non-existent.
is it a value study or are you just fooling around?

How to practice drawing when I have no paper? Draw on belly?

>>1704004
If you are a beginner, you will need paper or tablet+canvas. If you have some experience, you can just look at things IRL and mentally draw it.

>>1703317
Yeah it seems that way but I could not seem to get it right so I ended up leaving it as is.
>>1703307

>>1704009
Alright.
Do I need one of those handheld boards I see people using to put the paper on? Or is it fine to just use a table?

>>1704015
if you use table then your drawings will look distorted because of angle of your view on paper

>>1704026
How much do one of them there board thingies cost then?

>>1704011
Coloured version.

>>1704030
Dunno, made my first out of piece of wood. I think they are cheap,

>>1704035

stop spamming that shit please ?

>>1704038
No

>>1704004
Buy some paper. There ARE cheaper alternatives (like drawing on someone else's wall with a stolen piece of chalk), but paper and pencils are cheap enough to be worth the investment no matter how much you suck.

>>1704015
Yeah, a table will be fine, as long as the surface isn't dented. Don't listen to >>1704026. He's right about the distortion, but that isn't really a serious concern if you're at the "maybe I should get some paper" stage of your art studies.

>>1704030
I buy mine for $1.08

This is such a pain in the ass.

>>1704057
I laughed harder than I should have at the last one.
So long as you are learning from it, embrace the butt hurt.

>>1704057
could you link some sites you frequent for this sort of thing?

>>1704057
Ahaha the last one is gold. Keep grinding anon.

>>1704035
Hey how do you color it?

>>1704059
You mean where I found the reference pic? I can't remember where exacly I found it. Either on my school's server or on /ic/ I guess

>>1704061
Just make a new layer, put the layer on color mode. And go nuts.

dear diary
cant stop drawing jinx
i should open a fucking blog already

>>1703951
>>1703945
Okay, so I've been polishing for a while now
What do you guys think?

any help /book whatever with character design?

>>1704087
too messy and fat black lines. I really can't tell what is going on with your drawing :/
Is that a pighead?
Please clean it up a bit, then we can talk about design

>>1704081
Looks pretty fantastic although the eye on the left of the picture looks a little bit off otherwise excellent

>>1704087
>>1704089
does it read better now?

>>1704057
IT IS DONE
PRAISE THE LORD

Something from imagination.

from daily spitpaint, 33mn~
I still can't get rid of the "too much blur" but I'm learning... slowly

>>1704150
Nice & smooth but to me it looks ( fort the moment ) like a boy.

>>1704120
you should start by filling the character first with any color, then add lighting and everything

muh spaceships

>>1704069
>i should open a fucking blog already

YES FUCKING DO EET

>>1704123
A lot of these would have been substantially better if you took your time to measure the placement of landmarks and construct the head. Colors are pretty good though.

>>1704069
Hey anon, I think you should open a fucking blog already.

>>1703922
>>1703921
I'm not sure how to apply the ribbon technique to short messy hair. Thanks for keeping up with me.

Anyways, calling it done now and moving on.

>>1704123
Woah, dude. Wtf are you doing?
Pros for making me chuckle though.

I want to make this game

>>1704246
>I'm not sure how to apply the ribbon technique to short messy hair
Squint your eyes at the reference, or step far enough away from it that you don't really see the texture of hair anymore, but large shapes of different values with varying edge quality. Use a large brush and copy those shapes. You could then add in some texture, but only where it's absolutely needed, and after everything else is in place. Imagine it like you're painting a bush, or a boulder, you want to paint the major forms accurately before you worry about surface texture.

I'd look into how master portrait painters handle short hair. It tends to universally be bold brush strokes, unless they were going with a photorealistic approach.

I'm doing something wrong I just don't know what exactly. ;_;

>>1704258

>>1704284
Well.. now I want to make that game

>>1704276

one question: are you using loomis? and if so, which book?

>>1704248
is it that bad?

>>1704299
>>1704237
As he said.. The colors are great.. Construction? Not so much

>>1704123
I need to try this

>>1704300
he colorpicked them

laughinggirls.jpg

>>1704300
>>1704307
T-they are s-speedpaints... senpai...

slowly learning about perspective. I know its a really simple shape but I assumed its better to start off with simple things and work myself up from there.

also question, do you guys eventually learn to freehand perspective or you always have set your points down and check every angle to see if you got it right?

>>1704329

you do learn to sorta freehand it eventually. tip for you though: keep your vanishing points further away from the cone of vision (image). the way your image has it going on right now it looks very distorted and weird.

>>1704337
This one is for the school project so i cant scrap it. Sort of learning the core basics of perspective at the moment. Thanks for the tip tho Ill definetly put them further away next time.

>>1704329
>>1704342
If you can't scrap it, then doing something like this (perspective distortion in Photoshop might help)

>>1704357
how and what happend? did you warp the canvas or?

I think someone in the previous thread wanted progress shots on this so I'll try to keep whomever you are posted I guess

Anyways Just trying to go for some next level values apply some of the statue studies.

>>1704397
you need to differentiate the background from the figure more clearly. right now they're in the exact same key, flattens the image.

>>1704397
common man is that you?

>>1704400
Saving it as a jpeg is crushing alot of my blacks so I'm going to up them a bit

>>1704401
yup

>>1704288
I'm watching
>Analytical Figure Drawing Michael by Mark Hampton
(you can find that shit on cgpeers)
I ain't reading shit I can't read ebooks on my pc I just get distracted by shit and then I start shitposting on /int/

>>1704429
*Michael Hampton
what the fuck am I doing

>>1704429
>Analytical Figure Drawing Michael by Mark Hampton
chuckled harder than I should have

>>1704327
Are you the guy that did the portraits? And you say you color picked them?

Look, there isn't much benefit in trying to do things super quickly. Doing things right is much more important - people only care about the end result, not how long it took you. I fear that rushing your way through them is a surefire way to deprive yourself of a great learning experience - same with using a color picker.

If you want to practice a lot of portraits in a short amount of time, do them in pencil with rudimentary shading (enough to model the forms). Take your time: measure spatial relationships between landmarks and construct the head. If you're not exact with your portraiture, they will suffer. If you construct your forms meticulously and avoid using the eyedropper, you'll learn a lot more that you can apply to everything else you paint in the future, whether it's from a source or imagination.

Always have a very specific goal with every study you do. Whether you want to work your usage of color, modeling of forms, constructing forms, painting light or surface texture believably, learning anatomy, learning facial variety, etc. Your goal shouldn't be to do 'X', but faster. Speed comes on its own, and that's why I always advise against doing speed painting.

not sure if this is working out. will not having a workflow hurt me down the road? should i try to find "my way of working" and stick with it?

I wanted to draw a head looking down, but made it looking up because I can't draw and then drew a body that matches looking up instead of down and now I think I'll move the ear down and continue

But I failed so badly ;_;
I can't even draw the difference between up and down ;_;

>>1704479
No wait, I have to retry if I ever wanna learn it.

Does this one look like she's looking down? ;_;

>>1704489
loomis 101 nessisito

>>1704453
if you have something that is working for you then keep doing it.

Just make sure that you know how to correct something if you mess up.

>>1704164
I used my face as a reference, so might explain why it looks a bit guyish.
>>1704150

just rewatched Gurren Lagann

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>>1704504
>>1704504