/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Last thread I was recommended Vipplu and Proko as alternatives to Loomis because I just don't fucking get Loomis. I take it that Vipplu's Essential Drawings video is the one I need to watch right? How the hell do I find these videos when I'm a poor faggot who can't afford them?

>>1692948

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7409774/Vilppu_Studio._%28Anatomy__Drawing_Manual__Head_Anatomy_and_Constr

or

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7590698/Glen_Vilppu_-_Language_of_Drawing_16_DvDs

>>1692948
Proko has free videos on YouTube.

nathan fowkes studys

>>1692951
Thankies

>>1692953
Are they videos that actually teach something or just give a "preview" and say to buy his videos for the full lesson.

>>1692958
the latter

besides, proko is shit

>>1692948

I went with Michael Hampton's stuff. I combined what I learned from Loomis with the way Hampton did gestures and used egg shapes for the torso (upright for upper, sideways for lower) and whammo, everything went together like Tetris

>>1692938
jesus h christ what are you thinking

>>1692984
I don't understand the question.

>>1692985
you're on fucking crack. leave here and don't ever come back unless you start doing life drawing. and don't op fucking threads. Nobody wants to see this shit, and it's demeaning the tiny shred of anything these draw threads have become. having an ironic image is one thing, but you just plain suck dicks.

>>1692998
Why are you so angry?

>>1693003

your op image is so bad that it offends him. its like serving your aspiring-chef friends mcdonalds.

>>1693006
>your op image is so bad that it offends him
I'm...sorry? Just kidding...I'm not. They'll just have to get over it.

See: >>1692733

it is a bad draw thread picture though. not quite as bad as the spiderman one though.

it's not hard, you just write draw thread in the image in big colourful letters so it stands out and people know what it is.

i miss h!

holy fuck that OP...
just why....

>>1693003
I spit my mcdonalds in your face

wuick value study before bed

I started to reading Bridgeman's life drawing book, his figures are gorgeous.

>>1693025

or draw turd. or draw tard. or draw dredd. etc

>>1692948
You can also look for Vilppu's life drawing manual, that's a book.
>library or pirated pdf

>>1693036
I cast Wish. My wish is that you weren't so butthurt for no reason.

>>1693041
A redesign i did of someone's character on /co/

>>1692957

these are really nice man. nathan fowkes is unbelievably good with color.

>>1693053
thx dude, he is !

most mentally taxing study i've ever done. sry for spamming lol

>>1693057

who dat

Dont ask what it is...


Any tips for clouds? I feel like they still look really unfinished.

>>1693072
Also: ref

I know its really shitty but im really new to this.
Help please

>>1693075
first off, it's really stiff, and that can be helped with gesture. Your proportions are at least not awful, you just have to apply that to gesture to get stuff that doesn't look stiff.

I would suggest getting Vilppu's drawing manual (through legal or illegal means), and going through that, doing the exercises and all.

Your shadows and rendering are quite soft and bad, but that stems from not completely understanding the forms you're drawing. This will come with practice AND study. The exercises in Vilppu's book concerning drawing the 3D shapes in different viewpoints and ways will teach you to understand form. Anatomy is just putting those forms together. Also, the light source is very very inconsistent.

i hope this helps.

>>1693081
Thank you very much! I will get that book and keep practicing every day!

>>1693081
Oh its a video.

>>1693083
No, it's a book. I'm assuming you're talking about his lectures. Those are very very good to learn from too, but the book does exist.

>>1693065

i do shit like this, should i continue?

ps died, all is gone

>>1693164
you got a blog or anything?

First try on enviroment

>>1693210
oops :P

>>1693223
omg a day full of fails

>>1693164
I'm sorry anon, but a smooth rendered face won't make up for the fact that she's wearing a wig

>>1693072
looks pretty cool, i thought it was some giant alien ship at first.

>>1693229
It's obvious that this person simply hasn't gotten around to drawing the hair yet.

>>1693072
Add some more solid blocks of colors, instead of colors and values that are so muddled together. Also, I would suggest making the horizon line a little bit softer, even around the darkest part in the middle.

Regardless, this looks really nice. Good luck with the rest of the water.

I've just started taking life drawing seriously. Where can I improve?

>>1693290
>Where can I improve?
Everywhere, but start with proportions.

>>1693290
why did you make the eyes that big?

>>1693290
>>1693292
I would say start with not symbol-drawing.

>>1692958
his free videos teach the main points of the premium videos, which just have more examples and sometimes some extra tips.

>>1692963
and he's not shit.

I just finish this one

let me know what you think of the idea, and give constructive feedback on the artwork itself

sketching

>>1693306
this is good

>>1693317
i like it so far

>>1693306
Did you use sketchup or some other 3D wireframe for the stairs? Because they're pretty damn near perfect.

I just started still life and its fucking hard.
I dont even know wchih value I should assign to what. Is there any video lesson that teach how to still lifes ?

>>1693306
MAGNIFICO

>>1693295
Been hittin those Feng Zhu vdieos pretty hard BRAH

Sketched a castle from imagination just for something different, castles are hard.

>>1693384
>castles are hard
Heh.

>>1693305
The idea is crap, the art is worse.

something that's not knights or gestures WUHH WUH UHHH

My captcha window is "even speed-wagon is afraid"
we jojo now

Guys, help? I feel like I am not progressing.


Also, annyeong ha se yo, captcha. Why you Korean?

>>1693384
>imagination

>>1693478
How often do you draw? What percentage of that time is spent on studies? What kind of studies are you doing? Are you drawing any figures from real life?

>>1693478
Stop drawing mannikins and start drawing actual people.

>>1693510
Well yeah, didn't really refer to it for the latter half though. So I'll say half and half. Too hard to remember the architectural nuances.

>>1693510
fuckin raped

Working on my shading as I was told last week. Still need some anatomy work. First time shading/shining metal.

>>1693519
I do, on the subway and in coffee shops. But I throw away my SB when it's full, so don't have the images.

>>1693512
Yes, I draw from real life. I draw daily (have missed some days), a couple of hours a day. I'll check my log and calculate my average. About 2/3 of the time goes to studies.

>>1693534
Spent about 60 hours on gestures and figures.
I should have more to show for it, right?

was messing about when I was watching the new One piece episode.

>>1693428
sketch me jolyene you wondrous man

plein air + spent a little extra cleaning up a bit.

Working in this atm

>>1693428
>>1693428
Con tell me what kinda study you do for values.I like em.

>>1693548
Facial features are a bit warped, but I like the lighting and colours so far.

>>1693478
You gotta be doing more than this man, these are sketches, got anything you put more than 5 minutes into? You should do some longer form drawings.

>>1693539
Maybe, maybe not, you should have something to show for it when you've been at it for about 100hours or so. But truth is you may have hit a plateau and just have to keep slugging until things click and you jump up another level.

What are your goals with it? What are you trying to achieve? What are the weaknesses you see in them? Try to conquer those.

But seriously, do some more long form sketches, doing nothing but this is not very useful given where you are currently at.

Just my pleb opinion, take it for what you will.

wip

>>1693478
>keeps doing the same thing
>guyz why am i not progressing??????/??

>>1693580
This. Plus you need to apply these if you're not already. Do figures from imagination and some from reference (but NOT copying, use the reference to inform your decisions only). Studies or the same exercise over and over takes forever to see a decent improvement. But applying your knowledge, then studying, then applying again? That's what leads to getting better overall.

>>1693317
I am pretty spent on this. No idea what to add or don't even know If I want to add something.
>>1693323
Thanks

Some paint study

>>1693478
How often do you draw and how much do you draw in a session?

skittery sketch time to snoo snoo

>>1693546
>jolyene

wuT

>>1693549

I did some howard pyle and mullins studies for like 2 days or something but stopped. I don't really do anything I just sorta go with the flow. The Dandy way, baby.

In all seriousness just paint from life

>>1693558
Thanks

Another speedpaint, not that fast this time, I don't know how much it took, like 4 or 5 hours.

>>1693548
It looks like very slightly warped reflection on a glass vase. Pretend it was your aim and get money

>>1693603
jojo character

>>1693603
sexy stuff

sketch from today

Critiques please.

>>1693587
The figures posted are from imagination.

>>1693580
Not sure if the questions were rhetoric, but here goes.
>What are your goals with it?
I want to paint/draw illustrations from imagination, as realistic as Algenpfleger, as dynamic as Artgerm and as painterly as Craig Mullins.
I started with the human figure since that's about the most important subject in art.
>What are the weaknesses you see in them?
The main weakness I saw was gesture, so I did more gestures and watch/read about gestures, but I feel like the gestures have only gotten worse.
Foreshortening is also a problem, tied to me still having trouble with sense of form, despite practicing a lot of "drawing through the form" and doing stuff from life.

This is something that took me longer, forgot to log, so don't know how long exactly.
>don't kill me over the quality plz

>>1693598
Daily, drawing sessions range from 30 minutes to three hours.
This quick sketch figure thingy is usually about an hour, once a day, before doing other drawing/painting stuff.

>>1693585
>pic related
I do all kinds of stuff, but I figured that compiling similar exercise would best demonstrate my lack of progress and frustration.

Alright guys I have a question.
My figures right now are ripe for the taking, but I want to install more into them.
Basically, what artists should I study?from what period?
I know to study the said
>Rubens
>Michelangelo
>Leonardo
>the other two ninja turtles

I got this bad boy last semester and I want to crack it open

>>1693679

try doing something other than figures and characters. for fucks fucking sake.

>>1693679
Surprised you didn't say Bernini for figures. I know it's sculpture but god damn, there's decent arguments about him being even better than Michelangelo. Can't advise more without you explaining what you mean by "install more into them".

>>1693686
I want to install new faces and emotions into my figures, and I also want that real 'emotion' you get when you look at a piece

>>1693682
I do still life's sometimes.
But what can I do more of?
I'm trying to rip myself from my comfort zone [females, males, anatomy, bullshit animu eyes]

>>1693641
and some sketches from ref. off to bed!

>>1693693

enviros and scenes.

>>1693651
Dude, as I said before, step away from using manikins/abstractions/simplifications. Maybe use it just at the very start for the gesture, and use cylinders to help with foreshortening. But then draw what the actual anatomy looks like. Get reference in the form of photos and paintings. Make it look as it is, not some simplified construct.

I did a quick draw over of your image, maybe it shows something. I just redrew the gesture a bit (put more of a twist in the torso since that's how I imagine it would be). Then put some more realistic anatomy instead of your lumpy construct, and then slapped some quick values on it. I looked quickly at The Flagellation of Christ by Bouguereau, some pieces of the figures in that painting I found were helpful to this.

>>1692938
doodles of castles..

>>1693706
welp

>>1693693
Ah, ok. That's what I thought but wanted to make sure. It's been one of my main focuses the past year or so, putting emotion and meaning into pieces without them getting all pretentious and 2deep4me. A lot of that is personal you know, putting what emotion you see/feel onto the canvas. Michelangelo absolutely did that well, that dude was obsessed with the feeling of a piece being right. For portraits I'd say Sargent and Rembrandt, especially Rembrandt's self portraits. I think Adolph Hiremy-Hirschl did it pretty well too, pic related, but a lot of this is down to personal preference. Others like Jama and Zhanglu come to mind for me but it's mainly down to you and what paintings make you feel stuff. Art history book is a good thing to look at, also wander round museums/galleries and look at blogs like Gurney's maybe. Sorry I can't be of more help.

>>1693705
Pretty nice draw over anon, agree with your points. Flagellation of Christ is one of my favourite Bouguereau pieces, find his drawings even better than the paintings sometimes.

>>1693708
Good use of making sure there's a little bit of different color everywhere and making things not just shaded and tinted.

>>1693312
>>1693312
>>1693329
>>1693378
Yes, sorry for not making it clear. It's three screenshots of a basic maya model pasted together, then I paint on top.

Any suggestions or critique is welcome.

Does anyone know hwo to get into the hangouts chat? My phone keeps ringing every time it sets up a new conversation, but I don't know how to join it.

>>1693716
google hangouts?

>>1693722
Yeah, there was a group chat for /ic/

It's occasionally linked here in the threads, but I don't know how to find it anymore.

>>1693700
Okay I'll try that
>>1693709
Excellent feedback.
I'll be sure to check all of those people out

>>1693705
Anon, your repaint looks gorgeous.
>even the sword looks better
So if I understand it correctly, I should focus more on the long studies...
I currently warm up with quickposes.com, then do quickies from imagination. Should I rather change the quickies approach (painting with value instead of using lines, or do them with a brushpen or so?), or just scratch them out of my routine for the time being?

Sorry for asking questions like a fool. Because the grinding yields now results, I now wanna make I find the correct way to study.

And your repaint is going to sit on my desktop for inspiration purposes.

>>1693737
Thanks man! Glad you like it.

As for studies...I think like quick studies have their value, but so do long studies. How quick are quick? I don't think that much is learned from 30 seconds or 1 minute poses. As for painted vs lines...I am a painter by nature, I think in value and shape, and don't actually create images like I laid out there. But if I run into problems, the best way to solve them is to use line. I think I am unbalanced actually and need to focus more on line to get my draftsmanship stronger. For foreshortening though I think of the limbs as cylinders.

The point I was trying to make though is that you need to analyze more what the actual forms are. Look at the original painting...his abs don't look anything like what abs actually look like! They look like how Bridgman lays out abs, but he isn't saying to literally draw them that way. He is saying to think of them as that simple way, if you can't understand their forms. But when you move on to the final image, you need to be able to draw it as it exists in life, not just render out the simplified construct.

The thing you want to always avoid is the "grinding" as you put it. That implies just brute force. If you aren't thinking, you aren't improving. So if you want to get better at poses, maybe grinding gesture isn't the solution. Instead think through the motion of the figure, how would he distribute his weight? How would he twist? where do his limbs sit in space?

I dunno, for years I just did the grinding of studies, but I found I stagnated, and only recently have I actually abandoned studies and I have found myself improving. Now I take in information without actually copying it. I will have reference open on the side and analyze it as I paint. I will look at how materials in the reference react to light, I will look at colour, etc. And I integrate that into my painting without copying directly. I think this more analytical approach is better than doing lots of studies.

How shit is it, be honest?

>>1693748
Also to add on to this...if you want to get good at painting/drawing from imagination, I think the best way is to start from your head, take it as far as you can, then spend a bit of time finding some good reference, and use it to help you fix the problems and take your image further.

>>1693750
It's pretty shit. Looks like a bad tracing. There is no understanding behind the lines.

>>1693761
whatever asshole fuck off, at least I put myself out there, you didn't have to be such a dick about it. How about giving some constructive criticism instead of just claiming I traced it, which I didn't fucking do. I mean how is your comment supposed to help me? How about giving useful tips to improve it? YOu just try to bring me down so you can feel good. OK Whatever man, whatever.

>>1693763
H-hey stop it. April f-fools is over..

>>1693763
You asked for honest feedback, and you asked how shit it was. I gave my honest opinion.

I wasn't accusing you of tracing, I was saying that the way the lines were applied it looked as though it were a shitty tracing. The lines were all shakey and done in one go just following outlines. You did some rookie moves like drawing a hard lines all the way around the lips.

Take more time, take more care, and analyze more. Take a look at how professional artists use line. Where do they put line? Where do they leave it out? Where do they keep it light vs dark, thin vs thick?

>>1693543
messed a bit with it after some studies

>>1693770
I would rework the proportions. Right now his legs are very short even by regular proportions, and since he is a runner you probably want to give him larger/longer legs than normal. I'd exaggerate the S curve gesture of the legs more too. Why is his close arm and shoulder so big? There's no real reason for that.

The exposed pseudomuscles in the legs could also be made more interesting. Try varying their shape and size, and also take a look at the real muscles there to see direction better.

Values are also a bit washed out overall.

>>1693776
>Why is his close arm and shoulder so big? There's no real reason for that.

h-help. how I color nose. and eyes...

Critiqs plz, I'm new to blending.

>>1693807
I'm a beginner but I think you should push your values. Look for a ref

Having trouble getting the rendering smooth and not liney and shit.

>>1693802
That's lovely

Worked this a bit more

>>1693223

I do not like this sam I am, I do not like green eggs and ham

>>1693223

The design you have now is very symmetrical. Try more interesting compositions and asymmetry is your friend

>>1693302

The woman in the right corner with the ginger hair looks like a penis. The breasts and the balls.
>Never unsee

>>1693822
nice, love the hand. an i envy your confidence in doing such intricate work so , idk, sketchily

>>1693817
use the smudge tool, you need a brush set up for it though, here's my brushes http://www.mediafire.com/download/xd65npj5bd7al3g/mon_brushes.abr

it's called 'blender brush' you use it in the smudge tool, set it to something low like 12% and because it uses scatter it should actually be smaller than it looks like it should be. you just run it along the edge of two values you want to smooth out. there are nuances and different degrees of edge you can get but you can work that out yourself.

sorry i have to give you all my other crappy brushes as well, i don't know how to do just one.

>>1693210
yes, but I'm not comfortable posting it

>>1693229
I know anon, I haven't really learnt how to paint hair yet

>>1693844
he's saying that the hairline is up way too high, it looks like she's balding.

>>1693595
Sorry for spamming. But I added a few things, and I feel done.

Why don't you paint more still lives /ic/

>>1693852
The brown planet is really uncomfortably close to the guy's helmet.

Everything else seems good though.

>>1693854
Thanks, feel to lazy to fix it right now though.

Any advice for clouds? I kind of got lucky and got that purple shadow colour on the darker clouds but I'm having difficulty blending the middle ones in the the sky where it's more light, that purple shadow doesn't work anymore, in some of the reference images I was using it looked like there should be more of a yellow highlight in the lighter clouds but that doesn't work either.

Or am I going about it all wrong?

>>1693525
rather than just drawing iron man and making it up, take a painting of something metallic and coloured and just paint that, you will learn a lot more, do that a few times and they try to paint iron man when you actually know what you;re doign.

>>1693871

treat them like geometric shapes. they have a lit side, and occluded sides. the bottom reflects the dominant hue of the ground, the top reflects the dominant hue of the atmosphere and is generally high value. sorta like that.

>>1693878
thanks, I tried to apply that but it looks pretty terrible am I on the right track at least? maybe I need to push the values but since the sky is meant to be bright, when I tried to push them it looked odd and unfitting.

>>1693878
those look like mountains instead of clouds.

>>1693888

enough shrooms for you anon

>>1693883

hope this little paintover helps. not so much in terms of clouds, but in general. i kinda liked the angle and composition of the shot and couldnt resist the urge.

>>1693904
man that would have been super helpful about an hour ago, I decided to just kind of wing it and do some studies now.

Beginner here
How do I practice drawing more "realistically" or draw something that I see not what I think I see?
When I try to draw it looks like stylized.

>>1693918
Not entirely sure either but I think it is:
If you draw a tree. Don't do it because you know it's a tree. But do the geometrical shapes that represents it.

>>1693908

>>1693904
>>1693908
>the turd towers

>>1693918

sticky + practice + observation

it's a long road anon

>>1693918
dont be a newfag and check out the sticky.
it actually has an exercise on this

LURK MORE

i wish people nowadays would say that more often. it's like everybody forgot how not to be a total newfag on 4chan.

>tfw doing still life and looks worse than ones i did months ago

>>1693852
>>1693854
The brown planet and his helmet are very,very close to creating a tangent. Which is why it's so uncomfortable looking. Just move the planet or make it bigger, just make sure it's edge isn't touching the edge of something else. Circular objects aren't the only case, it can be two flat edges or any variety of shapes that touch edge to edge.

>>1692938

>>1693832
>using the smudge tool

You're supposed to blend the colors you dummy.

Use an airbrush and mix colors. Use the color picker on the new color you created. Use airbrush again. Keep doing this until the lines are gone.

>>1693989
The smudge tool calibrated properly is fantastic at doing what you just described.

>>1693966
neat
you did a great job on the flower design warping around the teapot

>>1693641
looks like something from the oddworld universe

>>1693989

smudge tool is underrated as fuck. it takes some experience to use properly but its tremendously powerful. stop spouting bullshit yo

>>1693995
You don't really want to use smudge tool. The best part about painting is throwing in colors on top of one another to see the relationships and how they blend. If you use the smudge tool you'll only be blending what's currently on the canvas, and personally, I think that artificial smudge effect looks pretty ugly.

>>1693817
I'd say either lower the opacity and use a soft brush or use a standard round brush with only the transfer settings enabled and spacing at about 5%. Eye dropper is useful for blending in those intermediate colors/shades too. Keep at it.

Messin around with a comic idea

>>1694079
>>1694079
this is great

tumblr, DA, naything like that?

>>1694076
>airbrush technique
>bullshit

I guess the professionals are just full of shit, then.

>>1694112

name one professional who dismisses the smudge tool. im 100% certain that if i could spend 10 minutes IRL with you right now, i could convince you of just how powerful it is.

Unrelated but don't want to make new thread.
After how much time (starting out as a newbie) will my art get acceptable? Not terrible but just okay.

>>1694123
It depends how much work you put into it. It also depends how you spend your time. I would like to give you an answer, but results vary so much that you just have to find out on your own.

I think that people like to say that 2 years of heavy practice will get you on a 'professional' level, I have no idea how true that is, though.

Trying to get better at rendering form from imagination. Straya-points if you recognise him.

>>1694123

define acceptable. you can be extremely good after 18 months. like entry level pro good. acceptable i would imagine, you can be after 6-9 months. this is assuming you treat studying art as a fulltime endeavour, 7 days a week minimum of 6 hours a day. speaking from personal experience, not from what i've read on here.

>>1694098
Thanks buddy, but unfortunately I have no sites, my internet presence is pretty poor.

>>1694149
Well please make one.

I haven't been drawing for years and when i did i never did it seriously, i was just a kid back then, but a couple of days ago i bought Colors3D on my 3DS and i've been drawing with it since then, fucking hell, why did i ever stop drawing? this is the most fun i've had with anything in a long time, i'm totally hooked.

It's also my first time on this board, so feel free to rip me and my work apart, pic related, my current one, still work in progress.

>>1694320
It's nice, needs colors. What's the interaction between those two? Is she flirting, or are they just unrelated characters placed side to side? If there's supposed to be an interaction I think you should push it a little more, since the style is cartoony it could be better, not sure.

>>1693964
>>1693854

Sorry for taking to long.

>>1694304
> this is the most fun i've had with anything in a long time, i'm totally hooked.
I feel you man, drawing replaced vidya for me, thats great because it's addictive but productive.

>>1694372
composition seems too imbalanced imo, there is too much weight on the left.

Couldn't figure out the fourth pose, help would be appreciated. Not sure if it's the anatomy or the perspective that's messed up.
>or both

>>1694380
Ok, I look into composition more, but I am not going to do anymore on this one. I need to move on to improve.

doodle i did and a "draw from life" exercise of an extension cord next to me

im an idiot what should i work on?

ib4 errything

>>1694389
The point of drawing from life is to make it look like what you see

>>1694396
i was trying to make it look like the thing?

im focusing on construction right now and this was actually my first attempt at value, should i be trying to learn everything simultaneously?

>>1694402
There isn't a reason why you couldn't learn it all simultaneously. I mean obviously the real thing doesn't have white lines around it.

captcha: livedso henceforward

a drawing im doing for a qt, just started (20 mins), I think it looks to much like elsa from frozen but she really has that smirky expression 100% of the time
also no ref, drawing her from memory

>>1694365
No interaction between the 2, just drew 2 of the characters from a movie I was watching.

This might be too much but Im looking for some kind of mentor, I dont feel like posting pics of my shitty sketches, my drunk paintings and my high notes and my graff shit. I need someone to push me and be honest about critique not just "thats dope yo" Hook up on skype or something and share pics etc. I did anime shit when I was in grade school and started bombing when I started drinking and hanging out with the cool crowd so to speak. Painting is pretty much the only thing I dont hate but I can push it up for weeks working on something in the back of my mind and sit for hours and just be insanely focused when I happen to feel like it.

>>1692938
mmmmm

>>1693770

>>1694428
This guy used to mentor people for free.
http://sketchypages.deviantart.com/
Lost contact with him, not sure if he still does the unpaid mentoring. You can contact him and ask if you can join his Skype sketch group.

He's quite delusional about his own skill level, but he does know how to mentor - I saw people he mentored get above his skill level in about a year. (which he of course was blind to).

Just be direct:
"I heard you have a great sketching group, can I join? I need someone to kick me in the ass everyone time I slack off"

>>1694454
thanks

>>1694453
Is the design supposed to be asymetrical? If not, the squared left shoulder looks a bit off.

Could anyone draw something similar to this? Just want it to be original! Thank you a lot

calling it done , took me 8h i think, how do i know if im learning and not just copying tho ?

>>1694465
posting this everywhere doesn't make it any less shit

>>1694475
I'm just looking for someone to draw something similar to it, i'm in need of it

>>1694479
and I'm in need of money.
Care to trade ?

>>1694481
Would depend on the drawing

>>1694483

>>1694453 That's me.Do I match your high criteria for weaboo anime art ?

>>1694422
her eyes make her look like she's mentally retarded

Wip for contest

I'm torn on the comp I like it but I dont like it

And I hate the arms with a passion theyre so god damn flyswatter, I'll get on the fixing train tomorrow.

>>1693830
hell yeah, nice catch

>>1694467
You'll realize when you start your own original piece and realize that things are coming together much easier than before.

Pelican man

Wip, practicing anatomy and character design. Any tips? Planning on painting it once I get the line work fleshed out

>>1692938
it's pretty deep

>>1694118
CTRLPAINT says to use airbrush technique.

>>1694422
I like your art, site?

>>1694547
dont have, i paint for fun only now

>>1694549

you are too good for a hobbyist. what went wrong?

>>1694557
make more money in a different way not related to art

i got no idea what im doing how does this make not suck fak u shayla

I'm not really sure where to go, I feel very lost.

>>1694561

Drop in the background first next time so you don't end up having so much trouble with the values. Also for the next photo-referenced drawing you do, do it upside down. It'll give you a massive headache for the first hour or so but once you finish and flip it you'll be surprised how much closer it is to the photo than if you did it upright,

Also go back to the sticky and search for drawing on the right side of the brain.

>>1694559

mind sharing what exactly? im scared of that happening to me. some day me realizing that something else pays much more for much less work...

have no education though

>>1694559
>>1694573
>only caring about money

"If you have a job you love, you'll never work a day in your life."

>>1694573
its a family bussiness, nothing special but its profitable

>>1694574
I agree, but working in art can be VERY frustrating. I worked on a studio doing "concept art", backgrounds etc for animated series for 2 years and ended up really tired and almost lost all my passion for drawing.
You will have to draw a lot of shit you hate, and if you have a bad art director you will end up hating art

Thats why I now draw only for me, fuck drawing ugly shit for tasteless people

>>1694180
>>1694149
PLEASE

Sorta new to drawing, I'm trying to grab a hold on perspectives involving figures, but I just don't find much on that subject from the stickys. Any recommendations?

>>1694584
Break the figure into simple forms.
Apply perspective to the simple forms.
Go back and finish the figure.

Shit should be in the sticky look harder.

how do i into thumbnails/simple beginning structures

>>1694561
first of get your line work/structure correct then take the coloring in stages, here you just tried to do toooo many things at once, some people work great like that, expert people....

>>1694595
http://pastebin.com/fZM8NdBr
Have fun

>>1694578
I don't get it, how can art director make you draw ugly stuff? He can give you boring subject matter, or insist on a particular style/mood/color scheme sure, but in the end it is still your work. I'm not talking from experience of course so maybe I'm missing something, but I hear about this often and it makes no sense to me. Care to elaborate?

Saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier yesterday.

Suddenly possessed by the urge to paint Cap.

Early stages.

does this color scheme work?

>>1694600
most art directors are just friends with the boss or the boss itself, usually u have to please a boss who has no clue about art or design, he will want that face more manga because he heard manga sells a lot and shit like this
Just read the insider leaks from a lot of studios posted in videogame websites, bad art direction can destroy the work of years of the art department. Drawing to please others can be a nightmare

Also, if your studio tells you to draw my little pony u will have to draw my fucking little pony for 10 hours every day

>>1693989
>You're supposed to do this and that, buddy

There are no rules when it comes to creating art, dummy. There are tons of professionals who use the smudge tool and they use it well, dummy. Brad Rigney uses nothing but the smudge tool to blend his colors, dummy.

(picture related, it's all smudge tool)

>>1694604
that's 3d you fagget

>>1694605
come on, you can do better than that

>>1694603
I dunno, I think you can still draw a good manga face, and there is decent mlp artwork out there too. If you have your own taste I think it's possible to express it even through stuff that you would never draw on your own. Hell, Sargent was never a big fan of portraits and did them mostly for money and yet his portraits are fucking amazing.

>>1694609
>decent mlp artwork out there
stopped reading there, sorry

>>1694604
>there's no rules to art
>everyone gets butt frustrated as fuck when someone hasn't read Loomis or any of the 100 books for beginners
>everyone in /ic/ makes fun of everyone else's art
>there's no rules to art

Keep telling yourself that.

>>1694612
/ic/ is an overall bad community, with 90% of aspiring concept artists.

>>1694601

>>1694615
10/10 made me giggle uncontrollably

>>1694615
>Just as planned

Going to get some sleep and start the real work on this afterwards. Considering making the canvas larger and painting in more of his body.

>>1694612
What kind of argument are you trying to make? Are you trying to say that a bunch of amateurs know better than the masters did? lol

>>1694549
nigga just get a tumblr or something to upload your shit, it's a dayum shame we don't get to see more

>>1694549
You realize by copying ilikeyoursensitivity you're just becoming a lesser version of someone else's success right? It's a bit pathetic that you're not even trying to stand on your own legs.

>>1694632
does that guy have a copyright on softly rendered girls faces or something?

another sketch before bed, after looking at some chinese Cryptids pieces.

>>1694634
It's obviously not just about softly rendered faces, which we both know. He's copying his style and anyone who's familiar with ilikeyoursensitivity's work will notice the similarities.

>>1694614

yeah, because the stylization thread doesnt complete fucking dominate this board right? sadly, aspiring concept artists here are a minority.

>>1694653
i'm sorry, it's all my fault.

Trying to get some nice composition and great values

I liked this one the best from my values studies so I fleshed it out a bit

>>1694662
keep fleshing

I worked with this to get an idea where to put my main values, added a few random brush strokes until I "saw" something I could push further

misty shoving pokeballs up her bum

>>1694679
nice linework

>>1694514
Anatomy is really wonky and it looks like she is going to stab herself. Try tracing her skeleton with a red brush and compare the different body part to a real life reference.

For example an arm reaches down to the crotch area and the elbow is placed in the middle. You can try this by touch your right shoulder with your right hand.

How do i improve dis thing goys?

>>1694690

Explosions.

>>1693048

He looks like abe sapiens a lot. A whole, whole lot.

Trying to practice digital

>>1694690

>>1693547

I think you should choose more harmonious colors. Especially if you aren`t going deep into detail work. The trees and ground are pretty off putting.

Sky looks pretty nice though.

>>1694662
Looks good man, I hope you continue working on it. I like your values.

>>1694422
>just started
>from memory
show off

>>1694639
Nothing wrong with that really as long as all of their work isn't the same copying and they copy other artists too.

>>1694658
bottom right composition doesn't work but the rest are nice.

>>1694662
the 'throne' looks awkward, he is having to bend his head just to fit in there, if that's intentional that could work but the pose of the character really needs work then.

>>1694639

I dont know, ilikeyoursensitivity seems to be more influenced by realism. Anon looks much more stylized.

>>1694422
what's the point of showing your interface, are you a grill?
>1.45MB
>png
seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>1693966

your ellipses aren't consistent, making the pot's construction feel off

>>1694720
probably just too lazy to resize but jeez it's not that big a deal.

plese help me I dont know how to put those items in right perspective. I know how to put items in persp but in still life im lost.

>>1694707
The bear doesn't look like it's flying, more like it's standing in the air with shitty wings attached to it's back. The first one looks better.

>>1694717
Yeah, I removed the forest god and redefined the rocks to get a good idea of the geometry he's sitting on.

Still not sure about the entire composition though, is the focal point to much centered?

>>1694690
holy shit i giggled much.

First one waaay better.

>>1694745
Huh? What first one?

>>1694743
I didn't know we had so many flying bear experts on this board

>>1694706
photoshop?

>>1694707
Ehh, that wasn't mine, haha. Someone did a paintover

this one >>1694690

>>1694707

>>1694755

Erm

>>1694751

>>1694751

>>1692938

>>1694770
Topkek

>>1694734
guise..
is this the right perspective ? i dont even know anymore. Why when someone ask for perspective noone ever answers.

>>1694772
Compare to source. The answers are right there in front of you.

mah latest landscape turd, vivid shit

>>1694781
amazing

im going to use it for my liquid dnb mix

>>1694781
Is the castle/tower suppose to be leaning?

>>1694785

its 3 point perspective mah nigga

>>1694785
I'm pretty sure it's an attempt at 3 point perspective, but it is a little bit much

>>1694781
>dem colors

great work.

you have a tumblr or anything like that?

>>1694788

well, i got da acc, but not much work there, im basicly doing this like 6 months

>>1694787

i did a sketchup base, and used that as a grid

>>1694791

i forgot the pic

>>1694788

http://insidegt.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>1694793
nice.
you seem to be focusing on environments(and doing them pretty well).

i actually remember your ruins pic. really like how well the thumbnail reads.

>>1694596
Thank you a lot

>>1694793

hungary eh... you gonna be able to compete early due to your poverty cost of living.

>>1694602
No feedback is a good sign on /ic/, right? I'm just gonna plow ahead with this then.

>>1694803

i would like to think so. i never get any either. very very rarely. feelsbadman, but what the hell.

shitty dude standing between bushfires is me btw.

you should man, maybe try to keep your warms/colds more clearly separated. its what i would do, but i think i have a tendency to overcontrast everything so maybe you should ignore what i said.

>>1694801

well, im already working not as an artist

>>1694803
>>1694805

i dont comment on certain pics because they aren't interesting.
while the guy on the barrel looks interesting, the whole picture is way too blurry for me to make out anything specific.
but yeah, i generally dont comment on things that i think are boring. this doesnt mean that these drawings are good or bad. i guess they could be worse because if they were i'd probably would have pointed it out.

>>1694803
why the blur? anyway looks cool, i like the colours, the shot and the overall comp altho Id like to see it clearer

>>1694803
colors look fine so far, but i can't see shit since it's so blurry. i'm pretty sure the body has huge problems, but like i said, i can't really tell with all this blur.

>No feedback is a good sign on /ic/, right?
not really. it can literally mean anything.

>>1694805
People around here aren't on the level to notice much except the most obviously broken anatomy

>>1694812
adding to what i said I think its a fine concept but one would wonder why is the guy standing like that in the middle of this plaza with a girl on his shoulder? is he escaping from someone? why would he stop and stand over a barrell if thats the case.
On a second thought tho maybe hes gonna make things blow up shooting at that liquid oozing out the barrell? if thats the case it does its job i guess

>>1694803
it means noone cares enough to comment which is a sign of it being meh as fuck bro

really shit things get raped
shit things get critique
really good things get praise or shit by jealous fags

das the way of life on /ic/ don't fight it faggot

like ur pic man why the fuck is it blurry. looks like you had something there and just blurred the fuck out of it with some filter.

u got a sketch of it that you can post man?

i'd really like to see that shit

>>1694514
dont know shit, but those leg things are pretty kewl.

>>1694817
>shit things get critiqued
eh not atlways I've seen great art critiqued here while garbage was praised

>>1694578
Hey I hope you are still around.

1. How did you get to become a concept artist for a designer? Where can I contact or become one, assuming I'm good?

2. Instead of working for someone else why not make a small business drawings for clients?

>>1694854
>Dem nostrils

>>1694815
>>1694811
It's blurred because I wanted people to look at the colors and overall compo and not at the details (there are none yet and I'm still working on the guys design). Basically it's a more detailed color thumb, nothing more.

The context will become clear once the image is done

>>1694854
you look exactly like me, even the nostrils

>>1694854
are you phil fish

i'm a noob
does it read clearly at least?

>>1694747

Eyup

>>1694881
Post a pic

>>1694679
nice tracing

>>1695358
You're pretty stupid

I have a question, i hear some people say that when comes to drawing, there just is a hubble you need to get over, which is the most hard, frustrating and boring part of learning how to draw. And after that, it becomes fun, intresting and relaxing to do.
Is this true? I have read the sticky, and i am going through it still.

>>1695514
Not true in the way you're thinking of it. Becoming good at art and practicing a lot will be incredibly frustrating at first. In time you will master the basics and things will actually come a lot easier. However as you get better your expectations of your art will rise with your growth, the pressure to become better will never really stop and you will constantly push your limits. And you can't exactly relax while doing that.

BUT if you should ever reach a high enough plateau (and I'm talking about the Paul Bonner/NoxIzMad kind) painting will become much more natural to you and you will almost be able to paint on autopilot.

But if you just draw or paint for yourself, without having to worry about showing your work to anyone, painting and drawing can be really fun and relaxing once you're somewhat good.

>>1695514
No.
Art is suffering.

shitty first portrait. How can I improve?

>>1694744
push it a tiny bit to the right