/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

It sucks, doesn't it...

>In highschool
>start drawing as a hobby
>mostly draw the things you'd expect a teenager to draw(dragon's, robots etc.)
>get really good
>better than anyone in school district
>contemplate going to specialized art highschool but decide not to
>talk girls into nude modeling
Drawing got me laid all the way through highschool

>>1689423
>sitting at home, eating cheetos
>see greentext thread
>lie about getting laid like a 10 year old does to his friends on the playground
> also lie about being good at drawing
> doesn't make me feel less hollow
> eat cheetos faster

>>1689423
>talk girls into nude modeling

I wish I'd thought of this...

>>1689432
1st time I did this,
>sophomore year, valentines day
>hot lacrosse girl
>just moved from Indiana
>she's talking about how she's thinking about getting a tattoo
>I tell her I could sketch out some idea's for her
>draw some tree's
>she loves them
>tell her about a party I'm having at my place for valentines with some friends after school
>she says yes
>later that night we drink a bit and hit it off
>tell her I could draw the tattoo on her back she says yes
start on lower back and draw the vertebrae move up her back to her bra strap rub her back
>initiate make out
>proceed to imprint her into the mattress

The oak tree with the spine was what I drew on her back

I kind of know that feel OP

>high school art teacher was some batty old ex-sixties hippie woman
>always trying to get us to write essays about art and stuff one liked
>kept telling all of us to do art at home for more than three hours a day if possible
>tried introducing me to Egon Sciele's artwork

Sciele weirded me out at first but now I really dig his work, I can see why she wanted me to look into his style even though I misinterpreted her message. What made me feel a bit bad was when I was throwing out all of my old highschool art and papers and I found a guide packet that was a bunch of pages from Burn Hogarth books. Even though she was crazy and stole artwork from some students it seemed she did know her stuff. I regret not trying to be more serious with art in high school.

>>1689439
damn i really like that design too.

>>1689439
you smooth motherfucker. god damn

>see hot broad
>ask for digits
>call
>fuck
Good times.

Get on my level basement dwellers

>>1689519
i prefer the ol'

>get drunk
>ask if you can kiss random girls all night
>kiss lots of girls
>if things go well, hug them

>>1689519
>masturbate all day
>draw girls doing lewd things
>think about killing yourself all the time

get on my level, scrub

>>1689519
>3DPD
>ever
Look at this normie

>>1689577
You wish banging hot broads is the normz. You scrubs couldnt friendzone the tail I regularly tag

>in highschool
>draw comic for senior project
>get local comic artist as project mentor
>after first looking over my manuscript he asks why I draw anime
>don't understand why he'd ask that
>respond with 'muh style, all I've ever drawn', etc.
>years later start learning fundamentals and building up a drawing style that isn't just anime.
>Finally understand
>feel ashamed that he had to work with me.

I practiced drawing today and I had fun.

>>1689597
>senior project was learning to oil paint
>didn't realize how long it took to make 1 oil painting
>over 3 months of sessions twice a week with my mentor, I have 4 paintings, and they're all mediocre

Ugh, I should have just built a fucking cabinet like everyone else.

>be me
>start drawing at an early edge, typical grimdark angsty figures
>grow older, never specialize
>20 now, too impatient to practice
>forever doomed to gritty cartoons and frantic expressionism

>>1689418
>In highschool
>on the football team
>start drawing mlp and anime bullshit
>injure my wrist multiple times
>used to it by now
>draw anyway
>girls used to laugh behind my back
>didn't give a fuck
>one day I went home
>dad saw me drawing stuff
>dad hates when I draw that shit
>beats me till there's blood on the wall
>go into a deep hiatus
>A month after I graduated I found out that I was that guy who drew girls
>I will always be that guy who drew pone and tits on girls
>I can't get this label off of me

And I even went to art school for a little bit

>>1689519
>walk in Starbucks
>bout to order
>sales chick is hot
>can't talk
>end up not saying a word and leaving
>sit a safe distance from the counter
>draw her
>leave for real this time
>go to sleep at my flat
>wake up
>realize my drawing is horrible
>burn it in the sink

>>1689646
>>1689649

who let the special kids out of the stylization thread again? hush hush, back in there you go.

>>1689519
w-what if i don't want a girlfriend anon

>>1689610
>no greentext
scrub
I also enjoyed drawing today

>>1689736
looks like I'm the true scrub here

>>1689737
Indeed, you can't abuse spoilers like a 12 year old emotional child on boards where there is nothing to spoil.

>>1689737
god fucking dammit

>>1689739
yeah. Lesson learnt.

>>1689657
No.
I like it here, it's comfy.

>>1689455

What is up with high school art teachers stealing students artworks? Ours had a pretty bad reputation of doing that on a constant basis.

>>1689544
The TRUE artists life. See Van Gogh, Cezanne, and Gauguin

>take art course in college
>everyone is shit
>I'm shit
>but they're worse
>teacher is also shit
>6 months in and we haven't had a single lesson that teaches us fundamentals of any kind
>cry

>be little boy of 8.
>draw portraits and everybody freaks out how good they are.
>parents buy hogarth anatomy
>see pic related.
>scared to death of corpses and dead things
>never touch anatomy again until mid 20ties

cry and laugh at the same time is very possible.

>highschool
>draw usual teen stuff (catgirls, deamon guys)
>discover DA
>be a typical speical snowflake da shitter till 20
>kind of wanted to improve so i did some studies didnt work.
>discover /ic/ and all this precious information
>proceed to study

its boring but im patient.

>draw nothing but anime
>discovered /ic/
>learned that you need to study fundamentals to git gud
>proceeds to draw nothing but anime
>be better than 95% of /ic/

>>1690019
ic got told.

>>1690017
I hated the human insides as well when I was younger (especially guts and the brain), but I got over it when I started high school/taking art more seriously. That picture seems pretty spooky, though.

>>1690019
i bet you're not nearly as good as you think you are

but honestly i'm curious. it'll depend on what you consider as fundamentals, but you say you got good without them.
prove it

>>1690031
here I scanned two drawings, you happy now?

>>1690042
eh, that's okay-ish, i'm surprised.

but you're saying you didn't practice much and you didn't study the things you wanted to draw?
post a few more just to be sure pls.

>>1690042
nice

>>1690042
That's surprisingly nice, pretty decent. Do you have a blog or something Anon?

>>1690042

Those are nice drawings, which means there are only two possibilities: either you picked up fundamentals without trying to, or you copied those two drawings from the work of some other artist who has strong fundamentals.

It's possible to learn to copy well without really picking up any fundamental drawing skills, but it's not possible to draw well from imagination without fundamentals.

>>1690042
nice linework, shit construction

>>1690057
>but it's not possible to draw well from imagination without fundamentals
I don't think this is 100% true, even when I'm always learning and practicing the fundamentals I think people CAN be good at drawing without having knowledge about Loomis. Consciously or unconsciously, some people figure out things in their brain that help to be good at drawing without the specifically reading fundamentals, I don't know if it's related to your observation ability or something like that but I'm sure there is people able to do that kind of stuff.

>>1690045
no, all I'm saying is that I don't have to drop anime for realism to gain good drawing powers like all that /ic/ always suggest.

>>1690052
I got none.

>>1690063

>I think people CAN be good at drawing without having knowledge about Loomis.

if you mean people can draw well without having read "Figure Drawing For All It's Worth", then sure. If you mean people can draw well without having some basic conception of linear perspective, proportion, anatomy, and the other fundamentals of drawing, then no. That's why they're called "fundamentals."

>>1690042

>>1690045
no, all I'm saying is that I don't have to drop anime for realism to gain good drawing powers like all that /ic/ always suggest.

>>1690052
I got none.

>>1690057
>>1690059
it doesn't always have to be construction, you can train your eyes to always look at good proportion. I can draw a detailed eye instead of constructing the whole face then proceed to draw another eye, I can immediately tell if I placed the other eye too far or too near then fix it, then proceed with other parts so on and so forth.

>>1690042
That looks awfully identical

>>1690069
I think you are heavy referencing.

>>1690070
yet again cheep tricks like everything thats drawn well by every artist ever. fuck art. fuck people.

>>1690070
>>1690042
Welp. I think we can go back to highschool greentexting, guys,.

>>1690070
welp, the jig is up, nice catch but I actually got the drawings from this book.

>>1690076
Still, do you have drawings from imagination? don't care for the style, now I'm curious about what you can actually do.

>>1690077
sorry anon, those draws aren't mine but from the book. the greentext is bait, which I know /ic/ would bite because I make it sound egoistic as possible.

>>1690079
Oh well, what a shame. Anyways, I'm going back to what I was doing.

>>1690079
you rekt and baited my ass good.

>>1690070

hahaha, called it. I knew those were copies of some real artist's work.

You can't draw well without knowing fundamentals. Just like you can't do calculus without knowing arithmetic.

>>1690042
>>1690070
>>1690076
And for a second there you got my hopes up. /po-I mean /ic/ is always right!

>no, all I'm saying is that I don't have to drop anime for realism to gain good drawing powers like all that /ic/ always suggest.
>>1690076
>>1690070
jesus christ don't do that. beginners will believe that shit.

>>1689423
how'd u convince em

>>1690070
Get fuckin recked>>1690042

>>1690349 see >>1689439

>>1689455
kind of the same situation but instead of showing me glorious Shiele she showed me Tracey Emin and tryed to make me get into feminist bullshit art...

I stopped doing my assignment and did my own stuff. That teacher really did put me off art :/ In the end i got a bad mark in my class ... i regret nothing .

Oh yeah and she stole some of my canvases and watercolour work....

>>1689439

>calling your own drawing socash.jpg
>bragging about having sex on an anonymous image board

>>1690480
your art classes seem so involved, i spent most of my most senior art class with the other better students painting a sign for an Indian restaurant, we got some free curry out of it though.

>>1689646
Shit dude, what.

>>1689418
>Middle School
>comic book drawing classes
>Want to draw Hellboy type stuff
>early-mid past decade
>Most guys wanted to draw hentai
>wasn't able to brush off weaboo label in High School because people surrounding me

Or if you preffer a rather recent one

>Realize I was asexual in College
>Have grill hitting on me
>Found out she was married and had a kid
Though that's hardly related to drawing.

>boyfriend consider breaking up with me after I say "hey heyyyy I spent 2 hours with another naked man today" (referring to figure drawing class)
>boyfriend what.jpg "I thought when you said you were drawing naked people you were just drawing them....like without a reference"
flash forward
>stay after class to draw skeleton
>nude model comes out of changing room thingy
>oh hey starts chatting with me
>awkward, feel bad for him because "maybe he just feels sad because he has to sit in front of the room all alone"
>have long conversation
>model hits on me
>embarassed wat do never been hit on
>he is the only nude model we have, see him like twice a week every week

>feel awkward as hell every class now
>never tell bf
>can't look at dat peen
>give him vagina erreh time

pic related

>>1690855
is he fat or is the drawing just shitty?

>>1689418

It sucks, but its something many of us have to go through.
My story:

>Doodle lots in elementary and get kinda decent for my age
>by the time I hit 9th grade my stuff is rivaling that of 12 graders and I have tons of potential
>I fuck up and ignore learning perspective and other fundamentals and think "ill eventually just get better"
>I stagnate hard
>Reach grade 12 and I haven't improved fuck all. I ragequit (mid 2003)
>Take an art course a few years later but a combination of severe depression and other factors leads me to quit again
>Make another attempt sometime in 2008, still highschool level, quit again.
>Early 2013 lurk on /ic/ lots and start collecting pdfs, images and other knowledge. Finally get proper motivation. I'm still meh-tier but I have improved more in 8 months than I ever have before.
>I'm finally interested in art again, but it still stings knowing that I could have been getting gud properly for nearly 10 years

Such is life.

>>1690855
Your boyfriend is an idiot for considering breaking up with you for just that. Beware.

>Work professionally as an artist in the game industry
>Pull in 80K a year
>Want to quit and do something else before I start hating making art

>>1690855
That's really not professional for him to hit on you. Unfortunate he's the only model.

>>1691091

Reminds me of one of my teachers, although not art-related per say he did a similar thing with his career.

>Worked as a high level corporate IT position
>Was pulling in over 100K a year
>Dream job? Eventually became nightmarish and the stress became too much. Had piles of money but would be exhausted and have almost no time to himself, eventually started hating his work which he once loved
>He left the company and went into teaching, makes much less but he has much more time now to do the things he loves. Also was a really good teacher because of his experience gained out in the field.

>>1690017
Thats amazing, that picture.

I have no idea what those sacks are on his hands and feet

>>1690070
top fucking kek

>>1690846
>asexual
I thought the same.
Till I lost weight.

>>1690839
Such is life for a black child raised in the suburbs

>be me
>always wanted to draw but never done it seriously
>went to art high school
>teachers can't explain shit good
>never understand what I was doing
>choose to study architecture instead of figurative arts
>I now know shape, perspective and shadows, but not forms and anatomy and I can't draw for shit.
>discover /ic/
>I get why teacher wanted me to do those things
>still can't draw for shit

>>1690019

Nice touch on the 95% thing.
I almost took the bait.
T'was a good chuckle while it lasted.

>>1691364
then ask me if I want fries with my burger.Art is not for you.

>>1689544
i like you.

>>1691314
my only art teacher who had exactly the job situation i'm in a way working towards went through the exact same thing, practically word-per-word. he also mentioned that his friends and coworkers did the same. that there was a pretty standard movement from, after you have been working within a corporation/the system for long enough for it to become a daily reality, you burn out after a few years and go into teaching, in the digital/commercial/concept art/film/animation etc industries.

>>1691381
>Art is not for you.
I know, that's why I' studying architecture.

>mom it top fucking tier artist.
>draws like a fucking angel.
>she saw a talent in me.
> tries to nurture it so that I understood the fundementals.
>didn't fucking listen.
>now I'm shit.

I failed you mom.

>>1691469
can we see your mom's top tier work? and yours in comparison?

>>1691469
Compare son

>>1691469
mom is /ic/

>>1689641
Being sad won't help you.