/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

It's too much

Who even needs to be a real artist anyways.

>>1686073

dont stop, you are doing great

>>1686075
Far from done and I have to redo the C in canada, but also this

>>1686082

>>1685889
aaand decide not to do grayscale and just jump into color...wish me luck...
>>1685897
It was actually a "happy accident", when i saw the sketch i did yesterday the arms looked like robot arms and so i decided to kinda of mix this 2 time periods haha

>>1686073

>>1686136

>>1686072
spitpaint.

>>1686140
lel

>>1686140
fuck my sides

Any defects so far?

>>1686140
Contributan'

>>1686141
That further away wing seems a little off.

>>1686140
I hope that's milk.
>>1686092
Can I ask why you chose that hue for the lips?>>1686083
try straightening out your composition

>>1686140
>>1686165
And so began /ic/'s new meme

>>1686165
goddammit /ic/

>>1686168
This is very, very good. I would suggest you paint this on a canvas. The farthest trees could have less color to them to make them seem further away and also put more focus on the guy.
Beside the composition and execution I think this is very interesting because the guy has very good hair air a nice clean shirt, so he's not the kind of person you would find hanging around the woods. He is clearly very troubled yet not sweaty enough to have been burying his wife in the woods.

It would be nice to have a bit more definition on the shoes, they could either be very nice shoes or maybe he could be contrastingly barefoot.

I would hang this picture on my wall any day

>>1686168
This is very, very good. I would suggest you paint this on a canvas. The farthest trees could have less color to them to make them seem further away and also put more focus on the guy.
Beside the composition and execution being good I think this is very interesting because the guy has very good hair and a nice clean shirt, so he's not the kind of person you would find hanging around the woods yet he is clearly very troubled but not sweaty enough to have been burying his wife in the woods.

It would be nice to have a bit more definition on the shoes, they could either be very nice shoes or maybe he could be contrastingly barefoot.

I would hang this picture on my wall any day

>>1686179
like it. some crazy skin hues.

>>1686072
:( not a good drawthread image.

>>1686456
what the fuck is going on inside your brain?

Ported from old thread.

If anyone could offer some guidance on problem areas or fundamental mistakes I'd really appreciate it.

>>1686551
It'd help if you included your ref, but your values are borked. Forms are broken, especially her far cheek and her lips. Flip the image if you don't see it.

Consider simplifying the number of values in use. The section on value is related, but I'd give the whole thing a read:
http://www.erikgist.com/ErikGist_WattsAtelierFigureTutorial.pdf

>>1686570
Sure, ref used is here.

>>1686168
This is cool, I feel you need more more intensity to foreground trees, they feel a bit washed out.
Figure is painted well except look at his left arm; the perspective on the way the forearm goes back into the upper arm looks flat/odd.

>>1686573
>>1686551
You've made her value jumps within her skin too extreme. Pay more attention to what's similar than what's different. Try to make everything cohesive and easy to read with as few values as possible.

And keep in mind that your ref isn't ideal. Frontal lighting (like from a camera flash) has a very flattening effect, and make it very difficult to paint forms unless you're already proficient enough to extract useful information.

Am I learning?

>>1686609
Thanks heaps. It seems really straightforward. Should I re-do this piece using the process outlined in Chapter 4 of the book you linked, or just move onto more suitable subject matter?

how do I make this look like something

Unsure on how to make this more interesting

Every time I've attempted this image in the past she ended up some sorta alien, Anyways still not as perfecto as I'd like it to be.
Learned a bit about shadows within shadows within shadows- shadowception, bouncelight rather

>>1686698
what's the ref?

>>1686698

imo she does have some very hard to capture facial features

>>1686701

>>1686643
You can go ahead if you want to. I wouldn't, but that's me. It's not an 'ideal' reference, but it isn't terrible.

Be sure you read through the entire pdf. It's chuck full of useful information that will help.

>>1686246
>>1686605
Thank you both for your input, I'll take them both into consideration. Also thats really flattering what you said about hanging it in your home. Means a lot

Heres something I started working on this morning

>>1686698
You've skewed her face a bit, making her proportions seem wonky. Your values aren't very cohesive - you've darkened the far cheek that's closest to the light source. Visualize the overall forms of the head and emphasize those with your value and edge control.

You've also made the cast shadows from her eye and nose harder than they need to be. Though those are hard edges, they should still be softer than the edge between the edge of her cheek and her hair on our right side.

From a live model, she had very muscular legs

>>1686808
Holy shit that is hot.

>>1686851
I'm guessing you're referring to the model and not my art
Real critique pls?

>>1686639
Hi Its me again I'm trying to learn what shading is. Am I doing it right yet? *is trying to learn*

>>1686903

>>1686910
Well, both really. I dont really see something that is noticeably out of place, except the shoulders. Small hands? Was she very muscular overall or was it just her legs? Other than that. Great :)

>>1686933
Is he pregnant?

>>1686938
that's me fucking up on the sketch and then putting off fixing it later

>>1686940
probably should kick that habit, it will get you into trouble later.

if you're feeling too bored by the sketch to at least render all parts "good enough" before beginning values you need to work on your discipline, I'm sorry to say.

is this halfway decent for someone drawing for the first time?

fuck, I thought human faces were going to be easier to draw

>>1686851
are you 15?

>>1686948
you have no talent

no hope

just dreams

and now they're no more

>>1686948
yep they're okay, you're cleared to spend the next 5 years getting to a minimum level of competency.

>>1686948
you can do it, man. read the sticky, download resources, do it. just do it. just FUcKING DO IT MAN JUST DO IT YOU CAN DO IT.

and then a while later post back here with your progress! by a while i mean at least three months.

i recommend "Keys to Drawing" or maybe betty edwards but she's kinda loopy. just make sure you don't be lazy and draw everyday! at least an hour for starting off, but ramp it up, man. you can do it.

also everyone sucked like you at first. literally everyone. picture a baby being cannoned out of the womb with charcoal in hand and drawing an incredible self portrait in ten minutes, it doesn't happen. the only way anyone ever got good was to learn. learn, think, and practice.

good luck.

>>1686948
>fuck, I thought human faces were going to be easier to draw
They're one of the hardest things to draw well. We have specialized regions in our brain just for recognizing faces, meaning if something is a little bit off it will stand out.

You should check out the sticky for some resources that will help you.

waaaaah :V

saw the thread about dragons and realized i never drew one so

>>1686936
Thanks friend

I...I did an art of myself.

>>1686967
that person is awfully cold compared to how hot that light would be

>>1686981
generally you don't used right-angled cross hatches for organic things, especially skin. i kinda dig the effect here though because of that weird mechanical loomis face.

any suggestions?

New and improved, still shitty though.

>>1686986
Oh, yeah, totally. I just enjoy hatching and I liked the effect. What do you mean by "loomis face," exactly?

>>1686989
His forearms are waay tiny and his abdomen is really thick, imo.

>>1686967
I like this- Define more? I agree with the other anon though perhaps halation would be a good thing to see here?

>>1686992
Yeah, I definitely feel ya on the forearms.
I've been sturggling with them so much.

I do think a I could thin out the abdomen, but I want him to be stocky like classic 50s and 60s supes.

the best wrestler ever

>>1686979

yeah i kinda figured it would look good though. lol.

>>1686993

thanks. honestly now that i look at the first layer i had on the canvas, it feels like the stupid sun and the guy do more harm than good. will probably work backwards rather than forward.

>>1687000

juicy as fuck man. that torso is incredible.

what needs fixin?

>>1686999
Go do the pose yourself in the mirror. The upper arms would be angled up way more, which would help you lengthen the forearms.

>>1686988

looks very promising so far man. start taking your values a bit more into the brights now, you need some lighter shapes to start creating a composition.

also the right forearm of the toad overlord level 9000 is a textbook case of overrendering. it will start looking off as you take the image further. you'll see for yourself. i would encourage to avoid render altogether whenever possible.

>>1687006
Any better?

>>1687010

thank you!
How should I go about the warts? Should I just randomly sprinkle then?

>>1687028
Better, yes. I'm really goddamned skinny (I know), but here: look at the angle. See now?

>>1687044
Yes I see! It is a much higher angle.

>>1687044
thank you hungry skellington

>>1687044
schiele is that you?

>>1687061
Nope. New guy. I've never posted anything on the chans before.

>>1687044
How do your internal organs fit in there?

>>1686975
da or tumblr?

>>1687057
Funnily enough, I am hungry.

>>1687070
I'm not sure. They're probably pretty cramped. I've never thought about that!

>>1687044
dude you are perfect for reference. A little more skill and you can do anything with your body.

I'm a fat shit I look awful and have no definition in my torso or arms. But I still can pose for ref because it's not about body type. It's about the position and gesture.

As far as studying my own body type for musculature, not a chance. I need reference and live models...

Keep that figure man, you'll go a long way in using yourself for reference.

>>1687065
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele

>>1687044
Consider lifting, and stop starving yourself.

>>1686698
What sort of brushes are used to achieve this effect? Especially around her scarf.

>>1687079
Ha! I totally see it. Also, intrigued by the style. Thanks!

>>1687080
Every body is good for something. I'm not a good reference for drawing bigger people, or muscular people.

>>1687081
I'm going to try to start lifting. I haven't had time because of school.

current draw request in progress. bullshitting my way through details haha. any opinions

>>1687087
are you in one of the 4chan draw threads or is this a personal request from a friend?

>>1687089
im in one of the drawthreads. this is a request from tg~

>>1687086
stop beiNG SO FRIENDLY11

THIS IS 4CHAN

YOU'RE RUINING MY DESPAIR

>>1687099
I'm generally just really friendly and it doesn't help that I'm in a good mood. Even though I'm anonymous, I still prefer being nice (unless someone pisses me off).

>>1687089
i'd still like some opinions on it so far though

>>1687087
The intricacy is nice. I like what you have so far. imo, the contrast seems low, but I'm guessing you'll be adding some more in the final.

>>1687103
thanks!
im really trying to work out my values and contrast. its hard for me to do when im really teaching myself just from online tutorials and just fucking around lol

>>1687108
Just keep a nice range. Exaggerate it. Make the lights light and the darks dark. Also, there should be some more light on the edges of the shapes. Notice how light plays on shapes like these: http://www.interactiveartschool.com/lesson18CameraDistortionImages/18a_MyOriginalBasicFormsFromLesson1.jpg

>>1686962
>>1686964
>>1686966
thanks

here's to hoping i practice effectively and not mindlessly

>>1687115
alright, i'll keep that in mind when im working. i just need to keep chipping at it lol

>>1686917
still trying ; A ;

Work work before I snoo snoo

>>1686705
That she does
Going to have another go at her in a few months to gauge myself

>>1686746
Yup I'm aware that I derped it up, there's always nextime.

>>1687084
Hard brush with soft edges that's all it is

How did I do, /ic/?

>>1687197
I think you need to either make the spacing between scales either darker or thinner. It's not bad, but I think it needs more defined clarity in how the scales are layed out.

>>1687000
Good stuff

>>1687000
Fucking gold fish head damn that's interesting

I need to draw more.

>>1687000
Dem edges, nice.

>>1687008
Color variation and a bit more range of values would help this substantially. It's about as effective as greyscale with no variation. Also, a consistent light source.

>>1686072
Figures from imagination.

>>1686988
Reduce size
Make initial thumbs for better composition - not that you can do that now, but do it on your next piece. Rendering can really ruin a composition

>>1687260
rule of thirds...

>>1687260
thanks, you're right. I can't believe I didn't think of changing up the colours before. I feel stupid

>>1686808

Her left arm looks atrophied, specially the forwarm. I know it's probably like that in the image but the way you draw the hand from the sides gives that impression

Tried myself in abstract art

>>1686975
Your linework is amazing..

>>1687142
I get that you're trying but, I still don't think your art is very attractive. Your faces are very ugly. You're putting these stylized anime eyes, with a poorly painted face, with a super realistic, highly referenced body. It also helps to note that your hair is EVERYWHERE and doesn't make any sense, which may be due to that fact that you're still clinging to your anime style.

tl;dr please work on your faces and hair.

>>1687324
wo thank you
>>1687077
dont have either yet

I like how this is turning out.

>>1687450
nice values

Critique welcome...........

>>1687470
Give it the old flip, and hopefully you'll see a lot of problems with the structure of pretty much everything. The perspective is pretty out of whack, and it's not being executed well. Without a doubt, the most glaring issue is the head + hat. The structure behind the figure looks very non-believable and poorly constructed.

Start learning to draw scenes
Some practice.

Critique welcome

Skullfish defeating the famous Gorgax from the Subplanetary galaxy of Braxon92

>>1687500

paint opaquely! no more pen pressure opacity.

>>1687500

Use 100% opacity

>>1687508
>>1687510
Thx. But how can I tell the color with out mixing with opacity ?
I am suck with judging the color of a photo............

>>1686949
Might be even younger.

>>1686981
Those are some giant eyes, and a large nose, if you wanted it to be realistic then that isn't worth posting

walnuts

>>1687556

fucking awesome. now render it!

*cracks da whip*

>>1687556
>not holding a nutcracker variant weapon
u dun goofed

I want to start a blog to put all my character designs onto but I can't into Photoshop or any kind of art program.

>>1687570
draw traditionally and scann it?

>>1687556
>welcome to the dave rapoza school of line making. ill be your instructor, squiggly 80's badass

>>1687559
thank you! i dont know about painting it tho, it seems it would take me much time and will probably look worse than now (shit reason i know)
>>1687561
>pic related
>>1687589
w-what do you mean?

>>1686948

something I work on right now...

>>1687626
I can say the third drawing is the best, thus progress has been made.

I'm surprised and glad that everyone's okay with having 2 draw threads instead of playing thread wars.

>>1687281
i like this a lot mate

>>1686989
Dude...move on, I'm sorry but I don't think you can fix him...

>>1687000
Tumblr/Devart please.

>>1687323
Where is the focus? Where is the eye supposed to go? Make a contrasting spot to give the piece some interest.

>>1687570
The smiling woman's face creepily resembles a titan. Even if she's not, she still looks ready to eat you alive.

>>1687827
you only hurt yourself when you samefag

>>1687309
you're right, thanks anon

>>1686664
only you, can tell us what you see on the other side of the fog..........

>>1686072
My colours tend to be dull.

>>1689475
they seem about right, everything looks dull on a white background

>>1686072
Working on that page.

Tried painting heads from imagination.

First time drawing goldfish
>>1689505
looking good comp wise, but if the shot third from the top is to serve as a sort of establishing shot, then you need to bring the camera out a bit. It looks kinda cramped right now.

>>1689573
woops forgot to scale down

>>1686072
messin' around: real lighting vs. idk what you call it..symbolic/modelling lighting like certain old-school paintings.

>>1689578
oops, here we are.

>>1689575
1024 x 768 is more than fine size wise.

>>1689575
>fish
>scale

Can I save this, or am I better off starting the next study?

>>1689575
I want to see this without line work.

>>1689584
Save everything so you can see how you improve over time. If you don't save your shitty stuff, you'll always think you're shitty. Besides, it's better than what I can do.

>>1689584
i think you (like most people) start to see the subject as just tones and volumes and such while you're working, this is good in it's way. but sometimes you have to step back and regard the woman and your drawing of the woman, when you do that you're more lightly to see certain types of errors. instead of thinking to yourself 'is this the right shape?' you instead think, 'does this look like her eyes?' and you say 'no she has big dark round eyes' and you look for where your picture differs and go to fix it.

hope that helps.

>>1689584

Man, you can totally salvage that. Just wipe the face clean off and try again, it'll be faster this time since you'll have a better idea of what you're looking at and what you're doing.

>>1689594
I do save everything. :)

>>1689595
I agree but don't know how to apply that right now, because everything seems off.

>>1689598
Okay, will take a (long) break and then do that.

>>1689601
well just literarry ask yourself the questions, 'do those look like her eyes?' answer and try to mend the error 'does that look like her chin?' 'is that her expression?' and so on.

>>1689584
>>1689595
>>1689601
At your current level, I'd argue for the opposite: instead of asking 'does this look like her eyes', ask 'are these shapes correct'.

When you're starting out, it's important to be able to observe carefully, and recreate that accurately. Once you can do that reasonably well, you can move on to questions of a person's likeness, and how forms and light are interacting in 3D space. That plan is shape recognition and recreation > perspective and basic forms > construction of complex forms.

Ideally, you'd want to define all of your largest shapes first. Simplify your values, and turn curves into line segments for better accuracy. Once you have the big shapes correct, refine within them to get the slightly smaller shapes correct. Once those are right, refine the even smaller shapes. Once you've done a few iterations of that, you simply smooth out what needs to be a curve, and soften edges where needed, then you suddenly have something that matches your reference. It's a great exercise to get you to think from big to small, general to specific. If any of your bigger shapes are off, then it doesn't matter how well you handle the smaller shapes - everything will be off.

I've attached a super quick mock-up that's similar to the exercise I described. It's far from perfect, since it's just the cutout filter, and all the decisions were defined by the computer instead of by hand. If you have trouble doing the above exercise on your own, you could follow each of these steps for a few photo studies until you're able to try it on your own. You'd basically copy the first frame until you've recreated it exactly. Then, using your same painting, change your reference to the second frame, and make your painting look exactly that that second frame. Keep moving forward until you've arrived at the original photo as your reference. At the end, you'll have one finished painting that matches the original ref.

>>1689601
>>1689615
I should probably note that if you choose to do the exercise, you don't need to go through as many steps as I've shown in the attached image. I'd skip frame 1 and frame 4 entirely, since you really need only 3-4 steps to define big shapes, work down to smaller shapes, then final details and polish.

>>1689615
the stepping back and observing the subject as what it is isn't about an arty idea like capturing essence or even likeness. it just causes you to see the image in a new light and as a whole. it's much like flipping the canvas. only it causes you to see errors even more clearly because it gets your brain out of abstract elements for a moment.

it's a tip for checking your work not a whole methodology or anything. you'd still paint the picture the usual way.

>>1689658

reminds me of that post where somebody commented "you need LESS loomis"

i laughed so hard. proportions look pretty strong man, try to get into handling surfaces now. light, color, saturation etc etc. if you dont feel ready for that then move on to studying expressions that have a bit more emotion. statues are ideal since they exaggerate them within believable boundaries.

Alright so I'm trying to stand back and look at this as an image that shows how I color, how I draw lines, how I approach stuff in general and I'm trying to gleam every tiny wrong bit about it so I can try to remove those things from future stuff. I'm trying to critique it myself.
One, its a wonky face, its pretty dopey but I don't do anime stuff ever so I'm not torn up about it.
But as far as actual coloring technique goes its pretty smeary, soft and shitty airbrushy at parts. I think the skin tones look alright but maybe they're too simple.
The lines just generally look subpar, inconsistent weight, pretty wobbly at parts.

If you have any sort of critique on this, mainly with coloring and lines, please let me know. Maybe suggestions for alternatives to abusing overlay and luminosity layers or anything, I just really want this shit to get laid out and have every problem in the light.

>>1689754
That background is lazy and needs to be redone but the biggest problem besides the face is that broken back. I really like those legs and stomach, though. Your coloring technique is better than most and you already know about your airbrushy problems.

>>1689661
I think your comment made me feel better in the "at least it's not total shit" way.
Is doing self portraits with a mirror a good way to practice surfaces, light and colour?

>>1689764
better to do still lives

>>1689754
Your coloring and line work are both phenomenal in my honest opinion. I'm extremely jealous and wish I knew what program/ methods/ learning led you to that level. honestly the facial design as you said is the only weak link.

The thing that is hard for me is to make a drawing as clear as yours. with my stuff, linework/coloring makes everything blurry and fuzzy and hard to make out. It's not crisp like your pic

>>1689767
Specifically for faces, aside from the sculptures mentioned.
I am doing still lives already.

Hi there.

Hope to get some help in here. Please help me to get better.

>>1689754
Right eye should be expanded. Anime/ amnga style works that way, if the face is inclined to one side, the closer eye should be slightly bigger than the other.

>>1689775
More contour less outline.

>>1689862
lol yeah, i know, thanks.

>>1689862

>>1689592

>>1689881
>implying the guy isn't drawing contour

top kek

>>1689890
take it to the cancer thread, autist

>>1689881
>>1689890
Well, the reason why i didn't added more lines over my drawing is because i pretend to make the lines and then paint them so defining the form over these sketches is not a priority for me, the volume will appear once i paint them.

But a nice discussion is nice.

>>1689862
>>1689881
>>1689890
>>1689891

Didn't you just have this discussion recently?

Is it salvageable? It was drawn using a mouse, I'm still saving money for a tablet.. fucking Southeastern Europe, man.

>>1689891
>don't post it here! post it there!
>thinks he can dictate

top kek

>>1689896
That's what i'm saying

>>1689898
Her face looks like it's on a flat board rather than a curved skull.

>>1689896
where? That was my first post on /ic/ ever!

>>1689902
Why weren't you on that Malaysian flight?

>>1689903
I agree. delineate the planes of the face better.

a piece ive been working on, experimenting with pattern and focus

>>1688960

>>1689887
>>1689575
what's with you and replying to my drawings?
(this drawing >>1689505 )
>inb4
yep I'm assuming you are the one doing the cranewife.

Please critique my construction/ use of line etc

I feel like I can handle construction well enough, though I'm still practising. But when I want to progress to shading, values etc it all goes to shit.

pls help

>>1690036
and another

tried digital life painting 8-12 min poses

tried digital life painting. 12-8 min poses.

WIP

Admittedly I traced my linework off my photograph reference because I can't draw for shit. Painting is fun though, but not turning out exactly how I want it. I just started painting and drawing this week. What a fun adventure!

>>1690075
You need to work on your fundamentals mang

>>1690043
those pictures show me that you are running out of time or you are rushing. You are completely skipping the big shapes and relationships. And everything about your brushwork is hasty. If you can just imply shape, you don't need to worry about background details. Get the figures right, make sure everything is aligned properly. Don't worry about color dropping/picking. Work monochromatic until you pick up speed.


I might recommend that you pick up a pad of newsprint and work with a fat piece of charcoal or conte.

>>1690098
Thanks yeah i agree i felt rushed and wasn't thinking properly trying to find the right colors etc.. I probably won't try digital again for a while or only on longer poses.

Thanks for the crit.

Something feels off, do I need anatomical help or is it the perspective that is wrong?

>>1690112
try having him bend the stomach by leaning forwards or leaning back as he runs, your gesture is flat.

>>1689899
You're wasting your time drawing with a mouse. Just stick to traditional for now.

>>1690112
improvements

sketching

A few

>>1690190
2deep4me

>>1690197
I'm just trying to come up with some original content

>>1689899
Tried fixing it up a bit. Any better?

Wip

>>1690208
Marilyn really was breathtaking

I posted a picture a few days ago of some beautiful model and some anons helped me with 2 red lines, which ultimately were very kind. My goal is to get closer and closer to a likeness and I feel I've made some progress toward that. It was much more difficult than to just drawing it straight up. You guys were very helpful in the process. So I want to thank you guys.

can anybody crit my use of perspective? This is just a perspective exercise I did.

>>1690245
>lines bending and overlapping
you failed

>>1690253
Erased most of the perspective and construction lines. Gave some additional form to a few objects. How bout now?

>>1690263
I really can't tell what's going on.

>>1690267
How so? You cant tell if the objects are in perspective? This piece is just a practice of aligning objects in perspective in relation to 2 vanishing points. All the objects could be simple boxes for all I care, I just want to know if the perspective of the composition is correct or not.

>>1687262
>be in class, need to practice, don't want to listen to lecture so draw random students in their seats like a total creep

i have many pictures like this anon

>>1689512
not sure if that lighting situation would ever exist or if its inverted or something but I seriously love the one on the right.

>>1690032
What are you talking about? Crane wife?

some thumbs not sure which one i like opinions?

also not sure if flushed out enough for ic's eyes at this point.

>>1690271
I actually think I came across a picture of me drawn by Jillian Tamaki. I know I was in NYC at the time. And it looked a lot like me. It was kind of cool and shocking.

>>1690278
you should post said picture if possible. that'd be rad
ive always wanted to be in an art piece

>>1690287
im actually looking for it right now. She has a couple dozen pages of work on her blog and I'm having difficulty finding it. I remember I was at SVA at the time and saw her a few times.

>>1690270
i don't believe they are, erasing the construction lines did not help either.

Just got a laptop recently to be my portable digital sketchbook/inspiration/music playing machine. This is the first of hopefully many (better quality) still lifes. Anybody else use a laptop for a sketch book? I don't hear it talked about often.

>>1687000
That's not a gold fish wrestler, that's the Spooky Space Kook!

doodles for shnoodles

>>1690323
Holy crap!
Yeah I do too actually! What kind did you get? I seriously had to research this so much to get something. Its really nice for digital "plain eir" painting or whatever.
Mine is a Fujitsu t5010, what are you using?

>>1690323
>>1690360
This looks and sounds awesome, also wanna know what you guys use because I'm sad that I can't use that much colour in my regular sketchbook...

>>1690360
it's pleinair lol

>>1690359
I'd make a smaller nose and less lines on the face, but that's only like, my opinion.

when I get bored ill doodle chicks, why? I dunno, I guess like to attempt to draw my own "fap" material-

>>1690454
here's a really shitty doodle. But hey, some criticism on either of these would be nice.

>>1690454
Looks traced

>>1690462
>looks traced
>those legs and waist

>>1690466
Yeah, looks like the traced the torso and faced and then tried it on his own with the hands and waist.
Looks traced since he's drawn a perfect form and then made beginner mistakes and drawn without using any fundamentals.

>>1690469
>>1690466
>>1690462
not traced but close
one screen with PS and one with this picture
lots and lots of copying tho, but you should realize I redraw images for a hobby

>>1690474
>Lots and lots of copying

>>1690474
>one screen with PS and one with this picture
lots and lots of copying tho, but you should realize I redraw images for a hobby

so you either use a grid system or you trace, because you don't get that close to the original, in the exact same file size no less, without a grid or tracing unless you know your fundys, and you don't.
>mfw we are getting people doing shitty traces in order to try to hide the fact they traced

>>1690474
It's obvious you traced since you can't even get the lines right and chicken-scratching on your tablet.

>>1690478
>>1690476
>>1690475
alright so heres what I meant
the lines are traced but I am trying to get criticism on my painting. Colors are no trace, those are freehand

i guess screen and layer dont directly correlate with some people but I should just work on how i say things

>>1690485
Ill add that I dont see why tracing is (presumably) a big deal, it helps practice with people like me who aren't so good at free handing - it's art, everyone does it differently

>>1690486
at least be honest when you are tracing because it's a big deal if you are not. you are completely deceiving your audience and it makes a huge difference if you drew something with or without tracing.

>>1690485
You're drawing what you're seeing in your head and not what you're seeing in the reference.
Don't pick the color after what you think is the common skin color, pick the color that you're actually perceiving in the reference.

>>1690487
alright, fair enough. I just admitted to doing a lot of copying because while I did trace it wasn't the main goal of that picture, but I see why people would get at that first.

>>1690489
and thank you for this tip

>>1686165
>>1686140
>>1686136
i knew today was going to be a good day.

>>1687000
dem trips as well

>>1689754
>butterface

>>1690489
stop showing those pictures, they're not very useful for painters. they make it seem like colour is some kind of confusing thing and you need to be able to see through these illusions. all you need to do is be able to match a colour to the colours around it. you can tell if something is the wrong temperature or the wrong value or hue, you can even see if some kind of weird field effect is going on, then you change it, it matters not at all if it ends up being grey or not. there is no 'color that you're actually perceiving in the reference' there is only the difference between one colour and another.

>>1690403
>foreshortening
look it up
the perspective is warped heavy and she is suffering from a broken pelvis and hip.

>>1690475
100% traced

>>1687010
small update

domo arigato mr. roboto

>>1690537
shit

>>1690538
Reminds me of those FMV models.

>>1690486
>Ill add that I dont see why tracing is (presumably) a big deal, it helps practice with people like me who aren't so good at free handing
It can help if used infrequently as an exercise, but most amateurs don't know how to learn from tracing and it instead hinders their progress. There are much better exercises to learn how to observe accurately and to translate that to paper.

>it's art, everyone does it differently
Nobody fucking cares if something is art or not. This board is about learning.

>>1690485
>the lines are traced but I am trying to get criticism on my painting. Colors are no trace, those are freehand
If you're trying to learn to paint, you're going about it wrong. It's not like filling in a coloring book where the lines are done for you. You need to develop a strong understanding of how light works.

You shouldn't try to paint in color until you can paint in value very well. And you shouldn't try to learn how to paint value until you can draw well. Going against that natural progression only hinders yourself.

>>1690504
The picture is very useful for people starting out, because they don't yet understand how color is relative. The point is to demonstrate to people how the mindset that 'skin is peach', 'apples are red', 'eggs are white', etc is the wrong mindset when thinking about color.

Testing out Corel X3. Shitty noobie digital painter/drawfag here.

I am having difficulties with the giant's feet. what am I doing wrong?

>>1686740
Update on this

>>1690539
I wish I could do line work :(

quick thumbnail. tips on how to refine before taking it further?

>>1690684
I wish I was employed D:

I'm fond of the eighties, and I wanted to practice drawing directly from real life as it's often recommended, starting with heads and hands since they are always tricky.
But I don't think these drawings are transmitting the same thoughts and feeling of the originals. Any opinions?

>>1690714
do you have a blog?

>>1690714
where you put the chin in the top study is offset to the right for some reason. move it over to the left so the chin is actually centered over the centerline you drew you in.

On the bottom one you made the face too round, look at the left corner of the mouth, look at the bottom left of the curve of the cheek and jaw that's below it in your reference. then compare it with your drawing you should see that where you have a curve it in fact straightens out a bit then curves again.

>>1690714
drawing from photos =/= drawing from real life. Also your main fuck up is you don't map out proportions, define a unit of measurement and built up on it

>>1690243
youve made her face/nose/mouth/hair too wide thats why it looks off

All the eyes I paint looks lifeless like pic related... What am i doing wrong ?

Finished it the other day, forgot to post it here.

>>1686665

looove the atmosphere!

>>1687260

really fucking good, what brushes?

>>1687450

love the brushwork and colors

>>1690714
What he said >>1690723

More on that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakaoQ9L1RM

>>1690732
For starters you're making the irises too large, your values are muddy, and you have no specular reflections.

Pay attention to shapes, colors, and edges. Do plenty of master copies from great portrait artists.

It'll be to your benefit to understand the anatomy of the eye and how its various planes catch light. Vid related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6-bCgRmcko

>>1690744
thanks for your answer, i'm gonna watch the video

>>1690677

dem zedig hands

>>1690734
rad

>>1690711
You don't have a resume to get hired as a concept artist somewhere or something?

WIP

I feel like i'm improving (more aware of edges and color and stuff) but I find it very hard to objectively judge how good/bad something I've done is.

Critique please

>>1686808
How do I stop drawing with lines? I want to use more values instead but I don't know how
Also general critique is appreciated

>>1690774
It's not bad so far. It just looks unfinished, particularly the eyes and hair. Work on it more and then post it again.

>>1689881
Fuck Matisse is great

>>1690778
I wish I could just draw.

>>1690774
Don't have critique either, just agreeing with the previous anon. You've got something very promising here.

I gotta get on your level.

I'm not gonna work any more on this shit... but critique would be helpful.

>>1686989
Short legs.

Don't polish a turd, start a new one.

>>1690779
>>1690785

I should probably have mentioned that it's from reference!

Here it is. I chose to no go as yellow as the reference on some parts, I know it doesn't match in that regard but I don't think it defeated the purpose

>>1690789
I could tell it was from reference, and I was still impressed. Unless you used a grid or traced, that still stands.

>>1690824
Thought it was Kamen Rider Amazon from the thumbnaIl

>>1690800
>Unless you used a grid
What's wrong with using a grid?

>>1690836
This summarizes the argument pretty well.

http://ctrlpaint.com/blog/on-cheating-rulers-grids-and-tracing

Still kind of new to figure drawing. Anything I need to work on now, or do I just need to do more? Sorry about the notebook paper & cell phone pic

>>1690721
>>1690723
>>1690742
Thanks.

first time painting digitally

it's 4 AM and Im sleep deprived

>>1690895
Is this Crab Nicholson?

>>1690906
I like it. You should sleep less. Tumblr/DA?

more goldfish

>>1690905
Here's dis again

h3lp :<

>>1690736
Thanks. It's sort of a mashup of brushes, but mostly basic ones for the majority of the painting and some from Jaime's brushes; particularly for texture.

>>1691084
The Dragon is amazing, really good work.
THe mans face is a tad emotionless, In my opinion I say make him look more of what ever emotion you want him to convey, also make him lean a bit more into his front leg.

>>1686165
made me laugh

>>1687000
mysterio please, you are not that buff

>>1691084
improve perspective
add composition
make some depth
the man just stands there -> no motion :S
dont put your time into drawing all those dragonscales. Try to get a good "time/result"-ratio. Only draw details where they are needed.

>>1690767
brilliant

>>1690010

If it was a bit cleaning and more finished up I actually think this would be cool. I like the colors a lot.

>>1692087

Her left nipple is a bit too droopy

>>1690734
Cool idea bro, love the shield

>>1690539
Ah man love the red and teal colors. Looking good so far. Would love to see more as it progresses!