/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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ok back..

see you've got to define the form using the planes, like this.

another thumbnail i think will never finish

>>1684386
>mfw chicken scratch
work on that dude

>>1684389
lol. does it matter if im gonna paint over it?

>>1684393
not visually of course. but the line is your intent, if your intent isn't clear you won't be drawing as well as you can.

>>1684393
It does. The reason why you do the line art first is so you can tell everything is correct before you start rendering. With that mess you can't really do that.

>>1684394
>>1684395
i get what you mean and will keep it in mind next time however this time i tried to do it w just shapes though i did chickenscratch the gesture/proportions...Thanks for the feedback anyway
also im guessing there is nothing wrong with the anatomy/proportion/composition etc

From life.. I'm still working on it.

>>1684400
My first digital colorstudy btw

>>1684401
for a first study this is top notch

quite impressive

>>1684396
depends, the head is too big for something that's not suppose to be cartoony, but if it's supposed to be cartoony it's fine.

it's a bit hard to tell by the chest might be a little compressed.

i kinda dig the composition.

>>1684400
I'm going to call it done now

>>1684416
artwork is NEVER done, anon.

>>1684423
Don't /ic/ call that turd polishing?

>>1684431
Artwork is never done means you can always polish any work more. Polish a turd means polishing a work with poor fundamentals.

>>1684423
You're delusional anon. I saw many overrendered pictures, where amount of detail ruined them. I saw also many amazing paintings made with very few strokes of brush.

>>1684435
Artwork is done when the artist has expressed what he wanted to express and doesn't feel the need to add anything to it. Even art with great fundamentals can be overworked and made to look worse due to too much polish.

>>1684440
(it was a joke)

>>1684446
Oh, I'm sorry then.

>>1684440
often people have anxiety about finishing a painting, people don't know when to stop. usually when you hear people say 'an artwork is never done' it refers to that sensation of wanting to overwork and it reminds you that you'll never be fully convinced that a little touch here or there won't improve it, so you should stop now, otherwise you could be there forever.

seems like anon was just joking around.

>>1684404
it is not supposed to be cartoony and i think i fixed the chest

aaand now i dont know what to do next. man its hard to paint with no lines

I need more loomis

>>1684459
when you measure heads, the head measurement is from the top of the head to the chin.

>Scratch that drawing and learn the basics
I think you're probably right. I feel like I've gotten worse in some things since I left high school. Hopefully I'll be taking some classes in spring.

>the gesture m8. actaully some cool stuff going on but if you fixed the gesture make it more dynamic. also might just you need to work on them.
>also might just you need to work on them.
You mean work on gestures in general?

>>1684459
you bastards who cant even throw your photo to the PS flip it and adjust the tones make me want to choke you.

How do I into hair rendering?

>>1684502
Reference

>>1684502
Shouldn't you focus on doing the face right before you worry about hair and colour?

Hi there.

Any tips to improve this drawing before making the lines?

>>1684481
calm your tits and open picture; it will flip on it's own. If you want to nitpick something you could complain about size of file (more than 1500x1500 pixels).

>>1684509

>>1684513
I knew it, thanks anon.

>>1684509
The top of the thigh on the left of the gun doesn't line up with the right side

My art is always ignored here but anyway
This is my manly hand practice
What do you think?

>>1684553

>>1684553
Very thick wrist you've got there. Fingers are very thin. The thumb doesn't look like a thumb, it looks like another finger.

Take your hand. Look at it. Then fix.

>>1684555
Thanks you, I will try

so i posted yesterday a landscape painting and i wasn't really satisfied with the result so today i kept going added some texture, resized the canvas add more interst to the piece. i ended up with this

>>1684564
From 1-10 how good does it feel to use the chain brush?

>>1684569
10

>>1684569
kekai/10

>>1684565
Jesus man that looks pretty damn cool anyway.

Are you a professional?

>>1684589

no, im just a hobbyst still lot of thing to learn ... but i glad u liked it

>>1684565
thumbnail reads extremely well. i like that.

Ink wash WIP

>>1684647

>ref

22" x 30" paper, big as fuck for me

>>1684504
>>1684502

Haha holy shit I drew this guy in high school

I decided to quit it. My photoshop crashed every 15minutes and its fucking annoying! It lagged so much that it took me 1 hour to do something usually takes 10minutes ><.. So yeah its fucking done

Holy shit I actually made something good for once.
I-I think I'm evolving!

>>1684694

don't worry anon! we are always hear to tear you down!

muh depth perception

any tips please i'm new to realism

>>1684692
Sounds like you need to download more RAM

C&C appreciated.

I got Colors 3D a while ago and have been practing a little in it. pls criticke

>>1684341
awesome

>>1684721
His left ear looks a bit high and the lobe of the ear seems wide. Of course I have no idea who you're drawing but that's what I see.

I really like your lines though.

How to not be lazy -vomits- I reffed some of this don't think I'm less shitty than I am

>>1684694
Thumb looks frickin awesome. Now make it so it's awesome when you zoom in.

Sketchbook mobile + Note 2

I will polish it more later.

Anything I should do before I call it done?

any major things i should fix before i go retard on dat detailing?

>>1684773
You mean besides the perspective and scale issues?

>>1684776
no, that's why i posted. Ill play with it

Working on rendering fur, its fucking hard!

>>1684776
lol. Yeah just those small isues.

Also, a jedi to stop the giant robot, thing (I don't fucking know what their called)

my own redline, do I see most of the issues? some of the lines on the legs might not line up properly too, but it was getting busy

>>1684787

it's a fucking nightmare is what it is. have some fur reference

Trying to get out of my comfort zone, I'm horrible at sci-fi stuff.

>>1684808
I'm trying to make it look fluffy, more like a dog. That bear looks like shit.

tried something new, i like it

>>1684815
sweet colors.

>>1684815

>>1684509
Good lord. That line quality.

>>1684771
Fucking Gorgeous

I'm trying to get a Dean Yeagle-like stylization but I'm failing hard. I am fairly competent at regular life drawing but when it comes to trying to stylize parts it all falls apart. What do I do?

help.

>>1684852

>What do I do?

Snap her back in half and scale her facial features up by about 300%

>>1684853
you are not drawing what you see, you're drawing the symbols that you think you see.
instead of drawing a very small eye (which is at most three lines shaped roughly like a triangle) you're drawing a very big "eye" that looks pretty animu and gigantic.

pay more attention to what actually is present. at your level, take images and trace over on another layer, then hide the ref. this exercise will give you a better idea of facial feature relationships.

>>1684857
Will do. Thanks.

gonna draw stuff, I want to try getting out of my comfort zone. Suggestions...something you might like to see?

>>1684868
I love Bluefley. Draw something like he does. Like some sexy mech pilot or fembot, or girl in ridiculous armor.

>>1684869
I almost don't draw armors, I guess I should give that a go

>>1684851
t-thank you

Book cover commission. Needs two fighting creatures in the foreground and a sexy catlady in the background.
Figuring out composition.

Paint practice.

im not used to doing landscapes. this was just a practice of me trying to use some colors together for one. i like have no idea when it comes to landscapes atm

>>1684340
Ignore the how crappily it scanned.

Any suggestions for the background very much appreciated.

>>1684902
nipples are misaligned.
feet and hands.
hips are kinda small.
a little chicken scratchy.

>>1684893
Just my two cents. Also, feel free to go fucking crazy with skin colors, it's not all just tans and browns. It'd be nice to see you go into plums or other purply tones in the shadows.

study wipp

>>1684921
Thanks. I hate drawing feet and hands, and I know it's a little chicken scratchy. I don't intend for it ot be the final linework.

I really can't into rendering at all, I'm really jelly belly of some of you niggas in here.

>>1684929
The eyes are a bit far apart.

decided to hop back on my spooky ghost

With or without the eye? What do you guys think?

I'm learning towards no eye because i can take it a little more seriously.

>>1684930
You're totally right, I need to be more careful in the drawing stage.

>>1684922
Hey thanks, dude. I'll try that out next time.

>>1684931
definitely without the eye

>>1684929
I love your gestures, if it was a little more clean- it'd look fantastic! straighten out your edges!

>>1684926
so far so good! Try adding a personal flare to every study you do :)

>>1684911
This is a little strange, the head seems too big for the body, but i guess if it's a monster.... Maybe a black/darker background so the eyes contrast much more?

>>1684876
Move your kitty lady to the left a bit to have her centered.
The bottom black part of the monster dude goes too far left, make it unified with the sword!

>>1684835
These are beautiful, really love your little creature at the top right. References??

>>1684815
im spooked

>>1684811
sci-fi stuff is always the same. Helmets, future bikes, space ships, interiors and space stuff. Mix it up a bit. Add different elements you find interesting, don't become one of those boring cg artists!

>>1684787
Try out some hair brushes! Start with darker fur and render the lighter stuff slowly.

>>1684773
next time doodle out some mech designs on paper/whatever before you go in and start drawing. You'll have better ideas and you can make the scene more dynamic. This setting looks too "peaceful".

>>1684771
Those hues of blue are very pretty. I suggest detailing this more! Don't call it quits yet. Maybe add some more personal touches? Characters? Maybe a brighter light source?

>>1684738
This is cool man! /ic/ needs more monster dudes!!

>>1684694
Thumb looks great. Lets see a badass cave, or a castle built into something.. or a monster!

>>1684647
Get some deeper values in there. More contrast! Don't be afraid to get messy.

>>1684565
This looks awesome so far, my only critique is the rocky sculpture/landmark on the right looks a little out of place!

>>1684564
cool concept dude!

>>1684936
Thanks dude, no eye it is!

>>1684902
Here's another.
I draw way too dark.

>>1684941
Fug.

>>1684911
the hands fingers are way too long

>>1684931
with eye, but fade it back more

>>1684911
is that Bitey?

>>1684939
Thanks for the color suggestions, I think you're right. I'll mess around with the head proportions a bit, see if anything looks better. Props for responding to so many people, dude.

>>1684945
Ah, thought I could get away with it, but I'll see if I can fix it. Cheers.

>>1684952
Ha! Haven't heard about Bitey for a long time. Now my design's totally gonna bother me.

What can I do?

doonezo

>>1684851
>>1684551
Thanks. Made the changes for the lines. Ready to take care of her.

>>1684964
neck is still too long.

>>1684964
How are your lines so perfect and clean man?
Whenever i try to do anything like this, it comes out looking like chicken scratch.

This looks so clean and beautiful. Sincerely.

>>1684972
Try dat stabilizer tool in sai d00d

>>1684939
just saying that it's really cool you regularly comment on everything.

>>1684977
Its no big deal man. I try to learn from everyone else, as much as i can for myself, too. There are a ton of up-and-coming artists here

And it's true the community is rather small, but everyone has their talents.

Cleaned up and added a bathing suit 4 some reason

>>1684968
Thanks. Fixed even more. So weird, i swear i thought it was already covered but once you pointed that out i just saw it.

>>1684972
You just need to belive in your skills anon, and the dream will come true... that and using Easy Paint Tool SAI.

I drew a picture for you all of a naughty tentacle sailboat.
So I decided I would just draw my little-man in the boat too.
Ain't no shame in paddlin' yer boat right? 'Coase a paddlin' might be going a bit overboard.

However the case this little sailboat just didn't seem to be going in the right direction. And well the captain of The Clam Pearl decided to be a little stern with the stern there. It's the best way to get to the hull problem. And besides paddling in circles is an either oar proposition. This little beauty on the sea is made of canvas and wood simply because making a boat out of stone would be a hardship.
This nice Sailor isn't much for vegetables so it's safe to say he's never taken on a leek. But perhaps when he becomes one of them Old pirates, and retire he'll grow corn for a buck an ear.
After all, a leak in the back of a boat is Constitution for a stern warning.

Aside from paddlin' his naughty sail boat I'm sure this Sailor would love to be paddling the pink canoe. It certainly sounds like a ship load of fun to me!
As a young sailor m' self, I thought I painted all of the waves just swell. So when your out their sailing about remember what the good old book said.

'An aye for an aye and a toot for a toot?'

>>1684983
i'll never understand why people draw tiny hands it's such a weird mistake to make. it makes me wonder if there are people who go around perceiving hands as much smaller than they really are.

>>1684986
You are wrong. The hands size is ok, the thing is that they are not visible.

>>1684694
thumb looks sick. dem values.

>>1684983
nice gun. how did you make it so clean?

>>1685003
forgot my pic. trying to into comics by doing 1-3 frame random shits.

>>1684986
It's a common mistake to think the hands are too small when they are not shown completely.

>>1685003
Copied from a 3d render. Though it's not perfect, some parts are not aligned now that i look into it. Damn.

>>1684983
its looking good, can't wait to see full version

>>1685006
they're either too small or badly mishapen

>>1685012
Thanks. Working on it. Also changed the canvas to fit comic book size.

>>1685016
I think i fixed the left arm (our right) but again, we can't see them s for me it works this way.

>>1684956
Use a bigger brush, stop using (darkest) black. Looks good from thumbnail, it might also help your picture if you used different types of texture brushes or something.

>>1684853
Faaaaaail... Try again and observe the pic more!

>>1685037
Damn, don't have much time to work right now but will bump whit an update.

Any thoughts willbe appreciated, specially on the colors. I don't think i'll get back to the lines, feels right enough to me.

>>1685049
Make a flirty smile on both and you'll get my boner.

>>1684787
update, I'm not really happy with it, what do you think?

doing something to submit to the lahwf youtube tshirt contest

>>1685054
this would work really well as a t-shirt

I'm a beginner at art and this is my first attempt at painting in PS. Is it terrible? Can I improve it?

>>1685052
looks fucking good, you did well rendering the fur.

>>1685082
Certainly better than my first attempt.
I can't really tell where your light is coming from.
And the eyelashes needs some love.
Paint a little more form reference til you get the hang of it.

>>1685082
it's pretty good really. i wouldn't bother doing anything else to it. move onto the next one.

..it looks at bit like you painted it at 100% zoom though, usually people use a big canvas and paint zoomed out a bit so there's enough resolution to stop pixels getting in the way.

>>1685046
Please add some sort of color to your blacks and greys.. slightly blue or purple would be nice, so you can tell the gun apart from the body..
Also, i guess that it's only a placeholder, but the background looks horrible.

>>1685086
>>1685087
Okay thanks, will do.

>>1685046
>>1685089
Yup, i'll add some variations colors. I agree.

Update here. Some photoshop filters and finished shadows/highlights

>>1685093
it's almost enough just having that highlight, to differentiate the gun that is, if you put a little highlight on the side of the gun too it should be enough.

because comics use cmyk it feels a bit like using chromatic blacks takes away from the comicy feel. but that's a retardly subtle concern no-one but me would care about so carry on :p

>>1685093
Did this before you posted again.. Oh well

oh man

>>1685095
I agree. A blue tint over her suit will do it, thanks.

>>1685094
Yeah, i didn't added lights over the dark zones on the sniper rifle because i wanted to keep it opaque, not too shiny, but yeah, some lights over it and i'm done... unless i work a little more on her hair. Looks too plane now that i see it from a distance.

Thanks again.

>>1684757
cute, though the hand is 50,000x less well done than the face. you need to do a little bit of grinding in that area me thinks.

>>1685043
thanks!

Grill I want to polish, Ended up with a happy little accident grouped my values without realizing it. Pretty neat.
1/2

>>1685127

And poses I want to work on
Theyre getting better, pretty neat.

trying my hand in Flash

rough concept for sculpt

>>1685171
and here's a piece I did for class, I've already turned it in, but I'll polish it some more when I have time so I'd appreciate some crit or general tips since I don't have much digital painting experience.

This is much harder than those youtube videos made it look.

>>1685173
this is just an initial sketch for another sculpture pitch but I'm feeling stuck on the design and I'd appreciate any tips to help push it further.. or anything that looks really off to you guys.

>>1684942
No one wants to critique this?

>>1685166

I thoroughly enjoy this. Saved to my Trippy folder

>>1685176

haha. yep.

>>1685178
this is some recent sketchbook work.

I like my stuff but I feel I need to work on caricaturing with more specificity... I look at animators in the industry and their sketchbook work always has more distinctive character. at the same time I always hear not to force a style though. So I feel split on that most of the time.

>>1684341
this looks cool but you need to work on a real 3d understanding of the form. It feels a bit forced. and the form could be better shown in the nose, for example, and the way the lip is cut off by the face contour flattens the image. little things like that. the skull shape seems a bit off too.

>>1684393
It does matter. it doesn't have to be very clean, but a chicken scratchy line will not bode well for your gesture or a good understanding of your form.

>>1684416
these are cool colors! maybe a better consistency with your brush stroke would help. you have a really clear following of the form on the table/ceiling which is a bit odd when you see how the face of the girl is blocked in in a straight on way.

>>1685189
cont.

>>1684426
cool, check the logic of the pose though, his left arm especially seems a bit awkward. i would give his head a more dramatic tilt as well. he looks kind of lazy.

>>1684453
the rendering looks too chrome. you aren't really sculpting out the anatomy as well as you could to give better definition at key areas like maybe the knees or showing the elbow articulation. also check the way you modeled the right quad, it is off. more reflective light in the shadows would help this feel more atmospheric.

>>1684459
this is cool but i can tell you aren't understanding very well what you copy. it's more beneficial to see the simplified anatomy in perspective than to copy a loomis diagram. check out hampton's figure drawing book, i feel it would help you more.

>>1684479
this is pretty nice but two things bother me: the sleeves (?) i cant tell what material they are and the look quite flat. and the gesture: the line of action is straight on vertical which is odd if he's a skeletal soldier. try to get some drama and leading lines into it. the tilt of the skull is cool.

>>1684502
don't copy pictures, learn what makes up what you see in the pictures and build on that. so you can exaggerate what you know is flattened out in photos and manipulate reference for drama.

>>1684553
you're not gaining anything from that rendering, do some perspective-based hand studies, simplify it into a wedge maybe.

>>1684564
cool, id have the red light diffuse more into the snow and shift the composition so the figure is more towards the right.

>>1685196
cont.

>>1684565
wow this is pretty. i agree the framing you achieve with the rock is cool but its straight vertical edge looks too unnatural. i also think the black in the foreground is too black. i would throw in some reflection and lighten it up a bit since it doesn't seem like a dark/edgy scene.

>>1684647
looks dope

>>1684692
you should learn more form itll help and also learn some color theory. the palette isnt harmonious.

>>1684694
good start

>>1684705
composition is too central, the background is too flat and faded out actually so it reduces my depth perception

>>1684721
good placement of forms. yes the left ear is a bit high. make sure your rendering does justice to the linework though. it's not done but i see your hatching is ignoring some of the structure underneath the face and if you emphasized that a bit it would be a beter piece.

>>1684729
not bad, avoid that straight up and down line of action though most of the time.

>>1684738
try moving the figure more towards the rule of thirds spot, itll probably improve the feel

>>1684771
this is a cool painting. im not good with this stuff but imo there should be less detailing on those farther away forms, or at leas tmore in the foreground.

>>1684852
honestly from this i can tell you're not as competent in life drawing as you think. you need more of an understanding of form to really caricature well (something strongly emphasized in my animation program). it's not working because you dont know the forms well enough to exaggerate them in an appealing way.

>>1684942
>>1684902

It's not that you're drawing too dark, it's that you're focusing too much on the silhouette. check out Glen Vilppu

>>1685203
Thanks, will do.

>>1685206
sometimes it helps to think of drawing as sculpting. the outline of the form is not necessarily what matters the most so it usually doesnt help to make it darker.

>>1685178
I do realize i could push the pose a lot more though as it's really vertical. I'd mainly like help on the design itself

>>1685209
Oh, I know that. I'm trying to work on a very graphic style right now, if I was doing realistic I would be using charcoal. Those are both sketches that I may render in pen later.

>>1685219
thats cool but even in a graphic style there needs to be an awareness of form and that isn't coming across as well as it could with more form study

>>1685201
Are you student at TAW?

>>1684868
>>1684869
what about that theyng?

>>1685093
Finally. I know the background could be better but honestly this was the idea i had in mind when started, but any new ideas will be appreciated.

Trying out my new tablet as well as some variations on brushes, foolin around mostly. Wondering how people do this....


>>1685178
This is way too sloppy for any of us to understand whats going on in the picture. Expressiveness like this is good but you're really going to need to tighten up before you can expect to get anything out of your designs. This shows almost no form.
>>1685182
These are really great. I thoroughly enjoyed viewing them.
>>1685168
I'm seein some potential

>>1685229
No refraction effect version

>>1685228
Good start, will be cool to see where you take it.

>>1685232

everytime somebody does lineart-ish stuff without any kind of line-weight variation an angel loses its wings.

Practicing with colored pencils and posing.. I think her hand needs to be bigger. Also, I need to get some better quality supplies for sure.

>>1685223
I go to Ringling in Florida.

>>1685230
thanks for the comment. yeah I know I haven't tied it down so the material isn't clear but I was mainly asking in terms of silhouette, shape language, personality, not specifics yet. But i'll post again when I get more into it.

as for your piece, make sure you think about how the eyes fit into the sockets because his right eye is set deeply inside while his left isn't

>>1685257
Actually, everything besides the head should be a lot larger. Exaggerated heads are fine but here it looks detached because it's overdone. make sure when you render you really build up the form and create cool shadow areas. There isn't a feeling of solidity because the rendering is too flat. The expression is pretty good though, although think more about squash and stretch with the cheek masses and think about posing each eyebrow differently for more feeling.

Posted this like 3 draw threads ago, finally getting back to it

>>1685270

I don't know what the fuck is going on with my images with this distortion and rotation but it's annoying as fuck.

>>1685263
I definitely agree about the head being too large, I felt like it was going in that direction. I also plan on going back with cooler colors to bring down the warmth of her head. thanks for the advice!

>>1685229
>>1685232
It's a complete after thought. That texture is literally wallpapered on. The clouds or dust are merely airbrushed into the back. Surely you could have put some more thought into it before hand. Really you wanted to draw Natasha or Lara Croft, which is fine! You just aren't fooling us when it comes to that boring background you decided to add.

But what's really bothering me more than that is a few structural problems. Did you look at any reference? You drew a profile of a foot which hides that you cannot draw a foot in perspective at that particular angle. So her right foot also appears to be toppling toward us. No weight in the feet, she's just putting maybe 5lbs of her weight into that pose.

When I move up to the left of her waist, there is some strange rendering choices. It appears flat like the hips on a mannequin, and her belt wraps around as if her hips were a cylinder, but good thing you rendered the lips of her pussy before you took care of that. I don't believe her hands are holding that gun. The gun was an after thought. The head, I don't agree with some of the rendering you did, her face is pillowy(fat and softly rendered) The structure of the jaw, the small features of the mouth and nose and ears should be revisited. And her hair is a wig with gradient anime shit going on, come on son.

There appears to be a few, very subtle, inconsistencies with the body. As if you drew random portions of her body at different points of view, some are worm's eye and some at a small child or animal's view. Kind of like fun house mirrors in effect. So your rendering suggests "below" but structurally everything appears head on.

Your main problem is that you didn't design the picture as a whole. Say you redesigned this, even if you still had structural problems, it would look 10 times better and more believable. You painted a cheesecake picture of Natasha Croft.

As for positives, you can render ok, and I think you can draw better than this.

>>1684985
boo

>>1684806
the legs are too cartoonist and unbelievable

>>1685228
>>1685249
Stuff.

>>1685270
>dat roof
How many hours did it take you?

>>1685335
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>1685338
you're welcome

>>1685335
Die horsefucker

Why does our janitor ignore tablet threads/furries/pol threads?

>>1685342
Sometimes you just gotta fuck horses yakno :/
I need to eat too.So i'm fine with drawing furry shit as long as I can pay my rent.You have fun in your mother's basement, judgemental cunt.

>>1685348
I dont give two shits whose cock you suck to pay the rent, dont post furry shit here you steaming piece of trash

>>1685348
i find it hard to believe that people pay you for that shit

>>1685335
>>1685338
>>1685342
You're all the same person, right?

Anyway, what is that thing? It's like someone took a furby, a human baby and the angel Satan and then dyed track suit patterns on it. It's moderately disturbing, but in kind of a cool way. I can't decide whether I like it or not.

>>1685356
or what ? :/

>>1685336

Not sure, I have an odd workflow. I do a lot of pen work though, so I'm used to hatching the shit out of stuff.

>>1685359
nop not the same person I'm OP.
No idea what it's supposed to be.I just get commissioned to paint it.I didn't really ask since I don't care much.

>>1685361
do give a constructive critique what's wrong with it technically wise ,please.That's the whole point of this board no?If you're referring to it as design it's not my problem really.

>>1685365
do you see the fucking face?
look at the face and tell me there isnt anything wrong with it.

>>1685360
Enjoy your ban cumguzzler

>>1685367
>Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others
>did you see the fucking face
confirmed for pleb

>>1685369
top kek.For what exactly ? Do point out where in the rules it says "no furfag shit"

>>1685371
buttblasted horsefucker confirmed

>>1685373
>being this new

>>1685374
murican confirmed

>>1685376
you've gotta be b8ing

>>1685377

Working on a commision cheesecake piece. I'm not used to portraying this particular pose so any advice would be great.

Will link reference pic.

>>1685381
Ref pic.

Im using this pic more for the pose than the model's body type, hair, etc. I plan on my making the figure in my drawing a little bit thicker and holding a helmet to her chest.

>>1685380
Hues are a mess

>>1685292
This man speaks the truth.

>>1685335
Okay, I've been staring at this for a while now, just trying to wrap my mind around the anatomy, and I'm pretty sure the arms aren't symmetric. The one on the right is both longer and thicker. Also, I don't think the face and the ears are quite lining up. It's hard to see with that hairdo, though. Try to figure out where her skull is facing under all that hair or something.

>>1685381
I don't think that it is physically possible to bend you leg like her right leg is bent here without breaking some bones.

My latest drawing.
What do you think?

>>1685387
Oh, now I see what's wrong. It's the hip. Compare the one you drew to the one in the photo and you should be able to see that they don't match.

>>1685314
I'm starting to run into a problem... how do I perspective that sword?

>>1685292
>>1685292
>It's a complete after thought.
1. No, it isn't. I saw Black Widow over a concrete wall and some smoke behind.

> That texture is literally wallpapered on
2. Yeah, what were you expecing? it's a comic style drawing, not arealistic one.

>The clouds or dust are merely airbrushed into the back.
3. That was the idea. To keep it simple. What were you waiting son, a view of the city in the background?

>Surely you could have put some more thought into it before hand.

4. Read first point.

>Really you wanted to draw Natasha or Lara Croft
5. Like if the characters from marvel look alike between artists. Come on, read the name of the rose. Black Widow use that hairstyle.

> You just aren't fooling us when it comes to that boring background you decided to add.

6. Read point 3. Besides, the sketches are posted here too. Since the begining anon.

>Did you look at any reference?
7. I used pic related, but wanted a more agile pose for her so i made her like that, both legs spread showing her nice pussy.

> You drew a profile of a foot which hides that you cannot draw a foot in perspective at that particular angle.
8. More like the way i painted it in here. Looks flat but i have to admit i decide the line for the wall later on the sketch so it don't look correct. besides that, the foot don't appear completely.

>It appears flat like the hips on a mannequin, and her belt wraps around as if her hips were a cylinder
9. Good point on the leg, don't know the rest.

>but good thing you rendered the lips of her pussy before you took care of that
10. I did it later on. And i like lips and pussy, so?
>The gun was an after thought.
11. No, it wasn't. You pretend to know but you don´t know much as you think.

>Her face is pillowy(fat and softly rendered)
12. Of course, it's a comic character, not a real person.

>>1685292
>>1685402
Continuing.

>The structure of the jaw, the small features of the mouth and nose and ears should be revisited.

13. Good point.

>And her hair is a wig with gradient anime shit going on, come on son.
14. Yeah, i admit it, one of the reasons why i'm here, don't you think mister genious? you implying i shouldn´t have these flaws is ridiculous.

>So your rendering suggests "below" but structurally everything appears head on
15. Again, i added the wall later on the sketch so yeah, it makes a weird effect i admit it.

>Your main problem is that you didn't design the picture as a whole.
16. What do you mean? I don't have a picture of a person in the same exact pose for any of the drawings i make.

>You painted a cheesecake picture of Natasha Croft
17. But anyway, it's good enough.

>As for positives, you can render ok, and I think you can draw better than this.
18. Of course, we are agree on this one.

Thanks for the feedback, though i would revisit the way you make critiques. I would start by stoping trying to look like a genius that knows everything, and being more humble, after all, you are here just talking and not showing anything, and talking is cheap, me? no anon, i broke my ass drawing this and i love it. But you are not fooling me anon, you just wanted the attention in your interes of destroying but not helping. Lucky for you, i always give an answer.

There you go.

>>1685402
Forgot pic, sorry.

>>1685397

What is that stupid comic on the left? Knowing something before it was popular doesn't make you cool. It makes you someone that like something at one point.

>thinking you're a special snowflake for liking juder

エヘヘヘヘ。。。ホモ

>>1685402
>>1685406
I can't tell if this guy is serious. :/

>>1685396
yeah im having trouble visualizing her hip/crotch area since she's clothed all. I'm having trouble finding other examples of this particular pose so i'm doing the best with what i got. I'll tweek the hip area some more and report back.

Do you also agree that the right leg is too far bent like this anon says?>>1685393

>>1685422
I'm both of those anons, actually. You posted the photo while I was typing. :P

>>1685419
I can't tell if this guy knows shit. :/

>>1685418
>thinking you're a special snowflake for liking juder
what???
The idea was that the girl was calling him a Hipster (sort of) and he over reacts. Nothing about being special or anything.
>エヘヘヘヘ。。。ホモ
what da fuck is that?

>>1685427

He called you a faggot.

In his defense, the comic seems like a complete waste of time and was made only for your emotional benefit, whatever that benefit may be.

>>1685424
Haha. OK

How is it looking now? I've tweeked the right leg and reworked the hips.

i should have mentioned this earlier, but the final product will have the figure in the nude save for the crotch area. She'll be wearing a bikini bottom. Also, I need to give the figure "hips", so that's something else i need to keep in mind...

Aso, it's alright if the figure comes out just a little exaggerated/disportionate in some areas.

You know how cheesecakes go...

>>1685442
dumb idea I had, I'll erase it, is completely pointless.

>>1684942
Here's another.

>>1685451
Bravo on choosing the worst font in existence.

>>1685394
LOOMIS

>>1685454
>worst font in existence
that isn't comic sans

>>1685454
Bravo on being a complete retard, anon.

>>1684857
It's me again. I've been practice, it's still shit, but I can already feel the difference. Thanks.

>>1685394
It looks like an aliens genitalia. Nevertheless, I like it.

>>1685494
what proportions?

My biggest peeve is nailing the eye symmetry

does the pose work? and how would i do helmet from that angle?

>>1685504
look up pictures of the Stig

you will undoubtedly find a perfect match for the pose you want. References are what you might need

>>1685494
you should look at books about anatomy because by the looks of it, you're just drawing what you see on the outside and essentially just outlining (which is bad). Drawing is SO MUCH more than that. You need to have better understanding of your subject matter before you engage in it.

Pic is one such examples.

>>1684982
Any crit on this ?

I want to try and learn to render / shade-I use sai but I don't understand how to make something not look pillow shades. I sketched this to work on.

study from photo and edgy nut lord to try to release this energy from the energy drinks, overloaded the say the least.

>>1685524
Get photoshop

any help or tips here please? I'm trying to get a decent likeness. And I also want to have clean lines.

>>1685535
Work on the chin and lips, also the hair doesn't have enough mass towards the back

>>1685451
well, yeah. I think it does looks pretty Bluefley-ish. Except she's not wearing bikini above it y'knaw.

>>1685551
kk i'll do that, i got to step out to work, and ill work on it some more.

Is it bad if i start from scratch? I always seem to trash the drawing and start over. Is there an advantage to working on a flawed picture?

>>1685555
It's not like you'll lose anything from starting from scratch, you'll probably get more practice that way, but it's good to correct your flawed sketches, helps you see what you did wrong.

>>1685524
>>1685530
But I use sai ; w;

I tried chicken scratching stuff and just layering it all up[

>>1685101

Thanks and yes... I think that is the third hand I have drawn. I need to practice them more

This is a study I'm doing in order to learn Photoshop, it's one of the Sycra's courses over pencil kings. Last time I only had the tin finished. Seems like it's taking forever

>>1685587
Learning photoshop now will save you so much time in the future, sai is good for beginners, it's a very simple and intuitive program but because of that it's very limited. Photoshop is the industry standard and you'll be hard pressed to find someone who uses sai who is actually worth a damn. Switch now so it isn't a pain in the future.

>>1685502

My biggest struggle is faces. I can somewhat do a decent lineart, but when it comes to painting I go full spaghetti with it.

>>1685595
Please don't, This'll just turn into a sai vs ps bullshit again.

The guy is more than able to render realistically in SAI.

>>1685587
Don't chicken scratch, it looks like shit.

As for painting, use opaque brushes. Work large to small, focus on the whole before getting caught up in detail.

>>1685595
But Sai and Krita can use the PS format, no ?

>>1685621
That's irrelevant.
>>1685606
I'm trying to help this dude, he's limited himself by using sai.

>>1685592
I want to do that course once I get through all of Vilppu

I guess it's a given that you have to have a good grasp of value and color before even thinking of getting into it though, huh? I thought I would save learning value and color after knowing how to deal with PS but that seems to be out of the question now

>>1684340
I'm finishing this study of movement/energy

>>1684396
>>1684394
>>1684393

I disagree about the chicken scratch hating. When sketching out an idea like this and figuring out what you want to do, messy lines are just fine if that's what works for you. For a finished piece or if the linework is important, or perhaps for the next, cleaner layer, then flowing confident lines are important, yes. But for exploring your options and finding the forms initially, messier lines are fine, pic very much related.

>>1684694
I dig it, sweet values.

>>1685519
>>1684982
It's got a bunch better. I feel like the neck is much too thin though, head doesn't feel attached properly. I'd also say look at ref for the cleavage; those are some sharp lines for if they're not even meeting. I was going to crit the breasts for the earlier posts, they were hanging pretty weirdly, but the bra is a good idea. Try get the form of that just right though, needs to be pretty much flush with the form, and cupping them, not sitting on top or in front. Some pretty nice blending and edges in there though anon, be sure to post the final and/or a blog.

>>1685082
Great for a first attempt. Echoing other advice of zoomed out painting first, and use big brushes and big shapes before going in to detailing.

>>1685129
Hot linework, reminds me of Catbib and Bumskee's way of sketching. Can never get the hang of it myself, but nice to look at. Got a blog/tumblr?

>>1685561
>>1685555
At least before trashing/starting over, overlay your sketch with the stock so you can see where you went wrong. Then try not to make the same mistakes with the next one.

>>1685592
Looks great so far man. Be sure to push that pinky red highlight more before the final though, it makes me moist looking at it.

>>1685535
If you want a likeness, you're gonna have to measure shit and be exact. Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakaoQ9L1RM

...radish people...

>>1685625
>I guess it's a given that you have to have a good grasp of value and color before even thinking of getting into it though, huh?

Not necessarily, he uses grayscale layers in both the reference and the wip to make values easier to see, also since the videos are real time you can get a hint about his value blocking, the quality of the videos could be better though.

>>1685653
Thanks and yes I'm going to refine things quite a bit before calling it done.

>>1685686

im having a 10 minute shitpainting marathon

>>1685671
These are good, I really dig G.

>>1685669
>>1685561
>>1685653
thank you so much these are wonderful resources.

now I am gonna have to post more work that troubles me. i'll let you guys know how it goes!

>>1685752

>>1685232
I had a blast working on this drawing. Damn proud of what i did. Fixed her hair also fixed the angle of the wall and some minor things here and there.

I want to thank all the anons who made constructive critiques not only on my work but on others as well.

I despise this anon here >>1685292

I gues anonymity gives this person some kind of power or something like that, he threw the stone with this attempt of critique and then ran away. If you know something about drawing, prove it because as i said, talking is cheap, anybody can do it.

Anyway, finally did it. It's finished (at least for me).

Again, thanks.

>>1685764
Refraction effect.

>>1685765
my 2 cents: i don't think you are bad, i just dont like your style at all. i think your pic looked best before you started coloring it. this is not to say that you aren't coloring it correctly.

>>1685767
I agree with this anon

>>1685764
>>1685765
Late to the party, maybe you'd appreciate this ref.
Just reading the whole process, I think you're awesome. Keep it up anon.

>>1685767
That's a common mistake when trying to make a critique Talking about what i don't like. That's wrong, if you are going to do it (in a serious way at least) you must be objective. Without that, you are just saying "This drawing is fine, it has his flags but beyond that i don´t like the style, that´s all".

Elaborate... if you can.

>>1685773
Thanks anon, and yes i really appreciate. This is a real constructive addition.

>>1685783
it's a constructive addition to my erection , if you know what i mean ;p

>>1685782
Its not even a critique though, anon's just putting out his opinion.

>>1685782
I don't know. I think it's fine to say that you dont like something without having to elaborate on it. Not everyone likes everything, you know. I do have reasons for why i think this and you will probably disagree with them but here it goes: it looks too american for me. there is no action in it. it's a pretty boring drawing. i dont like the subject matter(american super heroes generally being boring as fuck), and it just looks so massively generic.
it's missing anything that makes it interesting.

for example look at these: >>1685671

they are great, they have a lot of character and motion in them. they are fun to look at.

>>1685789
I see... but i'm not here so people say "I like it" or "I don't like it". I could get better than that on deviantart or tumblr, right?

>>1685789
true. and this:>>1685792 is also my opinion. the guy who drew black widow shouldnt give a fuck about what i have to say anyway. i am not saying that his drawing is bad from a technical standpoint. i am just saying that i dont like it.

>>1685793
cry me a river.

crit?

>>1685492
This was my intention. Thank you.

>>1685802
I dont see how anyone could fuck up with a ref. Its fucking stationary. Values dont change. It doesnt move. The answer is right in front of you.

Where the hell did you get this relationship of negative space? Thats completely wrong. You dont know whats behind the fucking onion so dont fucking draw it.

Get some common sense in you or else stop trying. Loomis cant even save you from shit relationships.

>>1685802
if you were just a little bit more precise about the shape and intensity of the highlights, both on the onion and on the cloth, the picture would gain a lot of naturalism. it's not much work for a lot of gain.

>>1685802
Use sharper shadows underneath the onion and near the frilly bits, also from the thumbnail you can see the left side of the cloth is off.

Also you could always try crossing your eyes and trying to combine the two images together like a 3d crosseye illusion. The fuzzier the result the more off you are, plus its hella trippy.

>>1685808
Do you realize you don't have to copy an image exactly like an autistic flesh photo machine?

>>1685824
Yeah just like how you dont have to be good to be good.

Thats just an excuse to be shit

>>1685830
Im not who painted it but I stand by that it's a worthless thing to do to copy every little wrinkle on an onion leaf unless you aim to be a copy machine painter.

Thoughts? WIP, still have a long way to go on it.

>>1685849
You need something in the foreground to break up the space between you and the monks. Otherwise, reads pretty well from the thumbnail.

>>1685849

paint opaquely. yes it will feel like an absolute pain in the ass but it will be worth it.

>>1685833
>every little wrinkle
Well I didnt fucking say that did I?
I was trying to get the point across that relationships matter. I didnt say it has to be exact.

Its pretty stupid to copy everything, but it should be mandatory to atleast get the negative spaces right to get your variation of edges.

>>1685852
I'm thinking of putting a pattern in the floor and adding some lighting, hopefully that will break things up.

>>1685858
I'm currently using about 70% opacity on my brush, which is a lot higher than what I usually do. Should I be at 100% opacity? (I also have pen pressure on).

Thanks guys for commenting.

>>1685863
>Should I be at 100% opacity? (I also have pen pressure on).

yes. for now you should. and take off pen pressure.

here's what can happen after you read this post and try it, feel like its impossible to work with and:

a) "fuck that retard anon, i bet his work is garbage i shouldnt listen to his advice" and you spend a long long time barely improving until years later you start painting opaquely on your own because you reached the point where you figured out its importance. you will have forgotten me by then.

b) "fuck this is hard as shit, but i'll stick with it for now" and you will improve dramatically, at a rate of about 400% compared to your improvement-rate had you kept painting with pen pressure. you will eventually think "holy shit that anon was right, it was absolute fucking agony starting out but i can see the importance of it now. i love you anon, i would suck your dick irl.

entirely your call bro.

>>1685451
How's your commissions going? >>1685451

>>1685098
think im going somewhere with this

I'm not sure about the digital coloring

>>1685889
robot arms? i'd like to see this improved upon. i'm working with similar ideas.by looking at the clothes you've made. it feels like two different time periods, but with robot arms haha~

>>1685893
Nice.
I'm not sure about the whale tho...why not a shrimp?
or a cactus? or potato?

>>1685898
Thanks.
It's inspired to a cartoon that I was usually watching when I was child. "Josephina the Whale", based on a spanish novel. Sad as hell, I loved it.

>>1685884
Can you explain why painting opaquely > transfer painting? I mean when I paint with no transfer it's hard to blend and Id have to pick colours every few seconds. I see pros using transfer too, I just dont get why it's that bad. Id like to know why thanks.
Not that guy btw

>>1685914
Not the anon you were talking to, but painting opaquely is an exercise above all else. It forces you to make difficult, conscious decisions about shapes and color. Your edges won't be correct, but that's easy to fix if everything else is already in place. Think of it like learning how to do an accurate block-in where you model the forms correctly, after which you would proceed with the rendering.

Anon is implying that you shouldn't even worry about rendering for now at all - just get the right shapes and the right color. You can tell if you did it correctly if forms read super well when you zoom out or step away from the monitor.

>I see pros using transfer too, I just dont get why it's that bad
There isn't anything inherently 'bad' about transfer, and many means of blending depend on it. Keep in mind that many pros have very different workflows when working digitally, and that this is often reflected in the look of their pieces.

my latest landscape painting, thoughts?

>>1685671
A is best

>>1685671
Cool stuff I like C

Any thoughts?

Finally finished

>>1685671
C is strongest imo A feels to tadpole/

>>1685947
push the values and rethink the focus of that picture. the biggest contrast is between the figure and the mountains, but they are on the far right. My eye really wants to explore that enviorment but keeps jumping back to that dude.

>>1685849
use large brushes for big surfaces and small for little surfaces

What do you think?

>>1685980

>>1686001
Dat unibrow
So intense
I love it

I've decided that I'll learn to draw by going full retard and practicing poses immediately.

>>1684340
Gestures from imagination

>>1686033
And a figure.

portrait from imagination. used Zorn-piece for light/color ref

>>1686034
Why did you cut his penis off?

>>1685980
1. Study hands - use them to show expression and character; emote with them

2. Envision the scene in 3D space - can you spin this around and see it from every angle? Right now it looks like the thigh of the girl in the back is overlapping the girl in the front.

3. Scale - One girl seems gigantic compared to the other. How different in height did you intend them to be?

>>1686036
Whilst painting, I completely forgot that people have genitals.

>>1685624
>That's irrelevant.
Excuse me but why?
Let's say someone likes your work and hires you. Let's say he asks for a .psd or gives you a .psd file to work with. Krita can export and import .psd
I'm not saying I'm right, just trying to understand what the problem would be.

Oh hai it's my first time here and stuff.

I'm currently working on this piece and I feel like there is something missing/wrong, can't quite put my finger on it. Any critique?

>>1686098
ewww that face man

>>1686001
sikh work man

>>1686098
Needs more Satsuki.

>>1686101

Yeah thanks that is some A+ constructive critique

Could you please be a bit more specific?

>>1686029
I seem to be able to focus better when I have a race playing in the background.

>>1686121
did you mean to extend the torso like that?

Just been shitting around with some character concept ideas, meant to be alien-ish but nothing's really solid, anyone have any decent crit or suggestions, specifically on the character design itself but also any art tech crit is welcome

>>1686125
Now you made me see that the entire fucking leg is off angle.

>>1686121
My suggestion is to copy the image over, make a new layer and trace over it with super basic shapes, literally a circle for the head and pelvis, and lines for everything else, don't rely on this technique but it'll give you a much much much better understanding of anatomy. As my lecturers have drilled into me for the past year learning anatomy is the key to getting things just right but that's boring and takes forever so learn the general line lengths etc. and your artwork will look better for it.

>>1686131
It would probably also help if I paid attention to the angles of things AFTER drawing the stick figure, rather than just during.

>>1686098
>>1686101
>>1686115
Not him, but you don't see it?

Try flipping the canvas, or comparing your face to the work of whatever professional draws whatever character that is.

>>1686138

No, I didn't and that's why I came here.

I see it now by flipping the canvas though, I'm gonna fix the shit out of it.

Thanks!

>>1686098
quick redline

so a is what you had
b is a redline fix of that, (you need to be more aware of your volumes, stop painting each thing as its own object and really think about how much of your figure would be eclipsing itself!)

C is what I think would improve it
Its a bad habit to crop at the knee and it makes characters look short the head is too large, and i didnt even see the back arm till I looked really hard for it. Counter the angle that you are giving your form with something dynamic?

keep truckin

>>1686153

Ahh yess thank you!

It's the first time I'm using this technique of focusing myself on the values before coloring, but I'll just need to practice a lot hahah.

Thank you for your redlining, I'll definitely use your critique!

>>1685764
>>1685402
>>1685406
eeeeeehh

ok?

>>1685671
continuing on these guys, ill probably paint a few of them.

also its video tutorial making timmmee!

superhero character art in mspaint

I compiled this for friends.
I have never drawn a wolf until now.

>>1686292
looks like you don't consider the shape much when you're simplifying. you have to break into into primitives or near enough.

>>1686296
can you explain? I mostly sculpt it out using the 2d shapes and finding the form.

Hi there.

I'm trying something different this time. Please let me know what you think. Any constructive tips and advices are welcome.

If anyone could offer some guidance on problem areas or fundamental mistakes I'd really appreciate it.

Finally understanding how blending works. Any comments?

>>1686490

>>1686494
I'm just trying to understand how blending works, not trying to draw a decent face. You are the one who is shitposting the whole thread, aren't you?

>>1686500
Calm the fuck down bro. It just reminded me of those little potato faces. Why are you so thin-skinned? I'm not making fun of you or anything.

been staring at this for too long, I think it has potential. But right now I think it's utter shit although I can't tell why. Can you tell me?

>>1686126
reminds me of something out of Rango, quite like it

>>1686048
well, maybe you're painting OP?

Actually caught some likeness in the faces for once.

Had to render the upper left, such a defined trapezius.

Someone please tell me how to fix her left arm.

>>1686457
Overall the picture is too dark, it looks like 100 % black on a lot of places. Don't do that.
Then there's tons of anatomical mistakes. Her mouth looks pointy like a beak, the line between the nose and the mouth is too dark, her right eye isn't in correct perspective, the nose looks too triangle-like, no nostrils, no organic forms

>>1686571
Can you point me to some good reading/watching on hatching like this?

>>1687022

Vilppu covers "volume modeling" in several of his newer lectures which come in extreme handy.

However, I learned general crosshatching via ctrl-paint: http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/crosshatching

The general rules to follow:

1. Consistency. Keeping your lines the exact same weight and keeping them a consistent width apart helps convey the illusion of value. Having varying line weight and widths just make crosshatching look like a bunch of lines.

2. Following form. Perhaps the most overlooked point by novices, following the form is what reinforces the look of 3D. You can crosshatch in almost any direction you'd like, so long as it is consistent and follows the form. The easiest way to do this at first if you are a beginner is to follow cross-contours of the form SLOWLY (speed comes later, after mastery) and then slowly erase away the lines you don't want as light. The lines you have left over is your area in shadow IE your crosshatch.

3. Plane changes. This is the last big thing, especially for box forms. When there is a shift in value on any object, the two areas are completely different planes. Crosshatching is a simplification of value just as planes are a simplification of complex volume. Learning when to simplify a volume and knowing when to use how heavy of a crosshatch to show a change in planes is mastery.

Loomis' Figure Drawing: FWIW has an entire chapter dedicated to the figure simplified to planes. If Loomis isn't your cup of tea, you can also use a desktop mannequin to help you see planes.

Hope all of this helps.

>>1684343
If I may criticize.

The connection between the arm and the shoulder...what's up with that? It looks like someone took a smaller arm and jammed it into an amputee.

>>1684565
fzdschoolofdesing plz go

Do paintings count?
Here's a self portrait I did today. Apologies for cellphone camera quality.