/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Going to try and work on this- Are there any glaring defects?

How large should I do something like this with what sort of rez?

>>1684829
Depends I on your program of choice i guess.

Also I've given up on hands forever.
I'll add that to the list of things I'll never learn, like how to fold a burrito.

Anyone have any tips to get a "Dragon's Crown" or really old painterly yet animu look?

>>1684836
No no no don't shade with black, anon. Shade with different hues!

>>1684836

You're not going to get it on your first try that's for sure.

Takes deliberate practice and goals

Also seconding that other anon, don't shade with black

>>1684836
The falling grape looks bigger than the others and it doesn't look like it'd fall that way, either. Maybe add a few grapes so it seems less awkward.
The head looks like a cardboard cutout, change the lightning at least.

>>1684836
Color pallet suggestion

I exaggerated the angled a bit too much on top of that I don't really know how the face should be distorted in anime-ish style.

As always, any help/feedback is appreciated

>>1684836
> Also I've given up on hands forever.
I'll add that to the list of things I'll never learn, like how to fold a burrito.

And shoulders, and arms, and faces, and breasts, and drawing...

If you're just gonna give up, may as well give it all up entirely.

>>1684866
This is Natalia, right? I don't get it, none of her pictures have that red nose, why did you give her one? It looks like she has the flu. I don't get the trend of making the nose red on things(people call it tumblr noses I think). Just lose that and I think it looks fine.

>>1684866

For pretty anime girls usually the standard is to make the eyes bigger/more defined while making the nose and mouth smaller/less defined.

What you have is not too far from the anime approach, her eyes are definitely huge but I'd make the shadow on the nose lighter or nonexistent.
For the most part everything looks pretty well-placed, but the mouth and nose could be placed a tad more to the right.

I don't think I need to tell you this either since it's a wip but those edges are sucky.

>>1684873
Noses have an increased blood flow.

>>1684879
>muh style!

>>1684879
not unless you're: drunk,sick,cold or possibly blushing

get rid of it

>>1684836
Okay, do at least ONE colour study. Just one. Then continue with your image.

I think this is a considerable change until whatever happens tomorrow, I fixed and added details based on the mirror image and your feedback

>>1684873
>>1684879
>>1684880
>>1684888
Ok, I think I kind of found a middle point ...I hope

>>1684874
I made her mouth smaller and more aligned same for the nose and detailed the eyes a bit more. This is an act of balance since I easily get carried away with rendering.

I'm still working on that Gumi portrait due to this.

My linework sucks in part due to my workflow. I just start blocking everything at once.

Thanks for the feedback guys

>>1684879
You put dem blushies on the wrong spot

>>1684899
Her nose is turned more so to the side than the rest of her face.

Oh I just know I am going to look back months from now and might feel embarrassed, I hate it when that happens. How are those eyes looking so far?

>>1684899
The degree of stylization is too much for the detail in the features and the proportions don't look appealing. Your first image looked better. Blush in the nose is seen across the bridge and on the cheeks rather than in the nares.

>>1684836
my two cents on the hand/arm. not the best at hands though, I'm better at feets. hope it helps some

>>1684908
Remilia

>>1684899
That is much better

Help me.
Please

>>1684905
Thanks, I will see what I can do about it

>>1684914
>Your first image looked better.

>>1684917
>That is much better

I'm confus.... Anyway, I will see how it looks tomorrow.

Btw this is the reference. I didn't follow it closely.

>>1684908

Her right eye is shorter. Have you tried measuring with your stylus?

I don't know much about anime eyes but the way you rendered them makes me feel that they will collide abruptly with the painting type you seem to be aiming for.

Currently outlining this thing, would love some feedback!

>>1684899

>>1684874
here, why did you make her sad and creepy? like, living-doll level creepy. She doesn't have any direction to her gaze.
Her lips also worked a lot better when they were simplified and/or pouty in your previous version.

>>1684967

>>1684935
Are the legs too long or something?

>>1684938
>right eye looks shorter

Easy fix, thank you. It will collide since I am in the deep end without my floaters but here I go.

>>1684992
holy shit, what is that thing

>>1685146
makeup/

>>1685146

>>1684781
>firez
>miku
Good start

>>1684992
NO
Moe cannot exist in the 3D form

I hope you fagets do your studies alongside your anime shit.

>>1685212
I hope you apply your studies and don't just badly copy photos thinking that's gonna make you improve

>>1685214
I do, do you?

>>1685214
How do I do that?

>>1685215
Yes of course I do. I'm just asking because the study you posted looks really bad and like you don't understand what you studied.

>>1685222
I alternate with a study and a personal piece, in the personal piece I try to use and apply something I used in the previous study.

>>1685224
How so?
I usually don't have something to study in mind, I just dive into the image and gather whatever I get, for example, here I gathered info on edge control, light behaviour, and even some about ambient occlusion.
could you please point out what looks bad and why is bad? also, I would like to see a study of yours and how you apply it to your work, now I'm curious to see you work and I want to improve, so it would be greatly appreciated.

>>1685233
It just looks like you put too much effort into mindless copying while the truly important things like drawing, the proportions, edges and values are all off.

>>1685234
So just buzzwords, ok.

>>1685234
Well shit, directly comparing the two images I, see you are right.
any suggestions besides "focus on that and not on the other stuff"?

>>1685238
If drawing, edges, proportions and values are just "buzzwords" to you, then there really is no hope for you as an artist.

>>1685248
Just to be clear, >>1685238 wasn't me.
Are you going to post your work/studies?

>>1685234
I don't agree, especially about the values. The edges are a little bit rough, there are some MINOR mistakes in the drawing in terms of the proportions (chiefly in the hands, nose, left arm, thighs), but in terms of being a copy of a marble statue the lighting is obviously, purposefully studied. It might not be the greatest study in the world, but it's obviously not mindless copying.
>>1685212
It looks halfway decent, but the edges definitely need work, it's obviously just lasso-tooled. No one looks that clear cut. While you got the general value range correct and it reads well in the thumbnail, your brushstrokes are extremely unappealing and would benefit from work. What I mean is the very airbrushed look of something like the hand makes it look flat and boring.

hey /ic/ what do you think about this

personally I like the messy look but what do you guys think, should I clean it up?

>>1685266
I did a sketch before painting it, is it bad to use the lasso tool/lock oppacity?.
Anyway thanks for the feedback, i'll do some more rough brushwork and will focus more on drawing, proportions and values

>>1684915
holy shit, how do i git gud like that?
I think I'm going to do a page or something of hands before I continue

>>1684829
>>1684836
I use Paint tool Sai

>>1685313
Just really watch your volume of the shapes.

>>1684908
you know, i told you to draw more from imagination, but it's another thing if it takes you a gazillion years to finish one drawing.
try to focus on quantity for now. and switch between imagination and fundamentals.

make more drawings, and try to push yourself with every drawing.

>>1685317
This picture would be great if you didn't have that giant lump of Inuyasha inspired hair on the side of that girl's face..

>>1685277
Clean it up and pay attention to the damn lines you set for the hair.. It looks like you just brushed over it with a big brush and forgot the form you drew for it.

>>1685420
Yeah it's been about two weeks on this one, it would be nice to "finish" something for once though with colors and everything. I don't know if I am doing right or wrong coloring it like this, hows it looking?

>>1685317
Her legs are way too small.
Left shoulder (her left) looks like it's been dislocated.

>>1685439
Well here's the reference I'm stopping there and moving on.

>>1685317
>>1685431
>>1685441
Are they too small? I was trying to make that raised leg a little for shortened. - here's a red lined sketch of the body underneath. Now that I notice it should I draw in the other foot between the more boyish looking male's legs? I don't really understand how the arm looks broken- could you red line the previous image to better explain this to me?

>>1685468
derp forgot image

>>1685469
Why are you pillow shading your coloring? It looks awful.. Stop abusing the dodge or water tool, you're over blending. You're also coloring with black..

I've never taken a single art course. Or even a single class.

Super sloppy character design. Outfit is WTF on purpose, I swear. Main thing I need help with is color theory, I know super basic BS like red opposites blue ( warm, cold). You know, the obvious stuff you can find in the obvious places.

So I'm just asking for pointers on coloring I guess. How's the best way to learn. I know you have to start with shading shapes in Greyscale

>>1685484
>I've never taken a single art course. Or even a single class.

Stop using that as an excuse to be terrible. Study from life, look up some tutorials, read sticky, take a community college or museum art class.

>>1685482
I didn't use black I used darker tones of the base colors.
I don't think I properly understand rendering.

>>1685484
>I've never taken a single art course. Or even a single class.

You're just looking for an excuse to compensate I have not taken any classes either heck I didn't even know how to use photoshop or a drawing tablet I just learned with practice.

>>1685284

yeah because your edges are aliased as shit, dont do it

>>1685277
The eyes don't line up.

>>1685498
You need to get some proper knowledge and theory down for this before you start doing it.
Right now you don't understand how lighting is affected by different surfaces and why some
shadows look different than others, hard shadows, soft shadows etc and you seem to think
that coloring is simply going from light to dark on a single hue, so you just blend
everything to oblivion. Get The Gnomon Workshop - Anatomy Workshop Volume Two
It explains basic coloring/rendering theory in a pretty simple to understand way.

>>1685488
>>1685508

wow. the both of you.
It wasn't my intention to use that as an excuse. Just to express how misguided I am in actual art construction because I only have own my point of view in my drawings and independent studies.

I'll put more effort into the things I share if that's what you meant to convey.

>>1685212
Poor contrast
Poor silhouette
Poor modeling

Shity rushed copying =/= "study" Who told you that was a study? Where did you get that idea from? What were you studying exactly? What was the lesson?

>>1685545
>It wasn't my intention to use that as an excuse. Just to express how

Excuses, excuses.

>>1685560
nice pillow shading

>>1685545
shut the fuck up and draw already.

>>1684839
How do you chose those hues?
PS : I'm a faggot

>>1685574
https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2r0vknJIl1r45a1eo1_500.jpg

>>1684992
Does this looks better?

>>1685582
Your first attempt was way better..

Come on Firez don't feel embarrassed, compare this one from your first attempt and let us make some observations that's how we can learn.

>>1684992
I hope this is better

>>1685585
Sorry I forgot to flip it so I took it down. Back on topic: That... that really surprises me.

>>1685586
Oh well... I suppose comparing normal vs mirror isn't a bad idea too.

>>1685588
>>1685586
beta cringe version ic

>>1685588
Throw some hard edges in there, jesus. It's like you're painting a blurry photograph.

There is more to stylizing than animu.

>>1685609
yes, and?

How'd I do?

>>1685439
I like it, but something feels wrong about the proportion of her arms.

>>1685620
Thanks, yeah someone had mentioned those arms before and I did try to make them bigger but I'm moving on.

>>1685618
How many teeth are there in an adult mouth?

>>1685618
no fucking clue... obviously joker here doesn't have enough... amiright?

>>1685623
dunno... guessing joker here doesn't have enough?

>>1685627
look at your smile/teeth in a mirror or something
hell, you can just tongue your teeth instead and correct it like that if you want

>>1685518
I'd recommend Colour and Light and/or Alla Prima. Both fantastic books, Alla Prima's the one I prefer because it's more practical. Gurney gets a bit too technical for me sometimes.

>>1685498
Don't worry too much about not understanding colours and such yet, that'll come with time, practice, and studying, especially studying. Check out paintings by JJ, Sargent, etc (pic related) and see how the shadows of things aren't just black, or just lower values of the base colour. Shadows can be cool or warm, have light within them, take bounced colours from the sky or the ground, all sorts of things. Colour and Light will help teach you about those things, but for now, don't shade with black like that, it muddies your painting too much. Keep at it, you're learning with each piece anon.

>>1685594
Seconded. I'd also say be conscious of your light source more. From the mic and such it looks like the light is from above and towards us, but there's not much of a shadow under her nose or neck to show that.

>>1685518
I'd recommend Colour and Light and/or Alla Prima. Both fantastic books, Alla Prima's the one I prefer because it's more practical. Gurney gets a bit too technical for me sometimes.

>>1685498
Don't worry too much about not understanding colours and such yet, that'll come with time, practice, and studying, especially studying. Check out paintings by JJ, Sargent, etc (pic related) and see how the shadows of things aren't just black, or just lower values of the base colour. That shadow on the side of the building is cool and blue as hell. The shadows under the awning/balcony thing though? Warm and orange/brown. Shadows can be cool or warm, have light within them, and take bounced colours from the sky or the ground, all sorts of things. Colour and Light will help teach you about those things, but for now, just remember to not shade with black like that, it muddies your painting too much. Keep at it, you're learning with each piece anon.

>>1685594
Seconded. I'd also say be conscious of your light source more. From the mic and such it looks like the light is from above and towards us, but there's not much of a shadow under her nose or neck to show that.

>>1685588
Why does that surprise you? Why does 'anime-style' have to be limited to some super kawaii moe moe big eyed nigger bullshit? The updated versions of your picture look like you put her through that 'make me an anime' app. Your first attempt looked way less forced. Pic very much related.

>>1685588
here my shot at it

>>1685627
Not nearly enough, and you've made each tooth practically the size of his eyeball. Construct the skull first. Pay attention to the eye socket, cheekbone and the tooth cylinder. Feel free to exaggerate where needed, but only a little. Build the face on top of that construct, paying attention to how the mouth wraps around the tooth cylinder.

I'd check out a bunch of frames from the New 52 Joker. Some of the drawings do a decent job of showing a stretched open mouth across the skull. Don't forget the major planes caused by the muscles when smiling.

>>1685588
here's my shot a the nose.

>>1685641
Killitwithfire.gif

even animu stylized crap doesn't even go to that level of cringe.

gonna color it now..

>>1685627
>>1685651
And because I was bored, here's a visual demonstration of the magic of construction. Mind that I did a fairly mediocre job, but the point of construction and having a skull to start things off should be clear.

Your construction doesn't have to be based directly on the skull, but it's useful when drawing distorted expressions, monsters, etc. Recognize what level of anatomical framework would be useful for your construction, then have at it.

>>1685594
>>1685641
>>1685652

Yep, after leaving it for a while I kind of see it too.

I just flattened it and now it looks a bit more cohesive I will even try to add some outline and see if I can save it.

>>1685658
Lovely.

>>1685718
seems so familiar but i cant put my finger on it

>>1685718
How very Quentin Blake. It's like I'm really looking at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

can't sleep

>>1685724
I really do hope you clean up the lines if you mean to make this an actual pinup.

Who is this?

>>1685726
I'm coming off sai's brush stabilizer, still geting used to "freehand" drawing, I'll probably give it another pass of lines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cban_Star-Racers

i kind of half-assed this

>>1685728
Huh, in that case you're too heavy handed during line work

>>1685729
no straw in mouth

>>1685807
lol, i was going to say that, it's not a straw though it's like a clover or something.

filler in between practice

>>1685807

oh anon you and your sick fetishes

>>1685809

but actually though

taking a break in between practice

How do I draw noses?

>>1685448
stop useing bad references. Only use quality artists as reference.

>>1685851
Don't worry your head with such silliness.

>>1685851
you go old school

>>1685851
look at your own, it's the best way to study nose.

Sooo....

>>1685851
I guess you can say, nobody nose!

>>1685875
your humor has no jurisdiction here, carlos

>>1685665
thanks for the tips.

>>1685874
Guy's left hand is too small

also
lewd

>>1685433
I get what you're saying and you're right I didn't know how I can form the hair so I didn't put any thought into it, i'll try to do it next time, thanks

>>1684781
http://bmitkov.cghub.com/
Guys is there a name for that artstyle? I really like the way he portraits face and its features. Can someone help to find something similar? Or its just his unique comics style? I'm pretty sure i saw that style somewhere before but i have no idea.

Mike Mignola AMA

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/213k4i/i_am_mike_mignola_and_i_created_hellboy_twenty/

>>1685977
Artgerm had a few samurai pics in his gallery that are somewhat similar.

>>1685977
Not every artstyle has a name

>>1685977
I call it "the western concept artist style"

>>1684873
>red nose

He browses tumblr too much

>>1685798

the head makes it terrifying

I hate how many people aspiring to draw manga style limit themselves to the popular blobface style.

You rarely see any variety.

>>1685930
ah, didn't see that. thanks

>lewd

what

>>1686081

>lewd
>what

It means he's a /a/ or /jp/ regular.

>>1686084
I'm an /a/ regular and i didnt understand why he said lewd

>>1686085
because the guy is obviously drilling that loli pussy.

>>1686077
Can't expect much from weebs.

oh hey. this goes here, right?

>>1686096
Im digging the style man. Show more

>>1685929
Where does she look?
What's her expression?
Noodle arms
And other stories

Would fug in a few years, work.

>>1686104
sure thing. don't have much uploaded sadly.

I really should've attempted line art sooner. This looks like shit compared to the sketch.

Also shoes are impossible?

>>1686167
Proportions, Anon. Head is much too small for that body.

>>1686183
Isn't 6-7.5 heads to the body normal?
Maybe I'm measuring it wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's between that range.

>>1686192
Your proportions are off, take a look at those hands they nearly take the entire face.

I know it's a copy, I don't too many of them. still fun, prolly didnt learn much.

>>1685640
Thx I'll try again on a new image and focus on lighting and such. I think in most of my images I don't really take lighting in to consideration.

>>1686103
Thanks. I am continuing to work.

>>1684781
Hi there.

I want to make a nice back view of Rikku using her diving suit. Not sure if making her on the water or just standing with the sun over her.

Please give me some advice to make this pose more interesting.

Are filters cheating? My straight lines look like I drew them on a train that is braking hard in an earthquake, so I hid them poorly

>>1686302
cheating is fine as long as it works. if people can tell your cheating then the work looks terrible.filters are cheating.

>>1686302
Depends

>>1685640
I started these two images. I think the girl looks okay but I could be wrong- if any one has a good ref for those feet on Tempo I'd love you for ever. I cant seem to find a nice ref at the correct angel to draw those feet- they are crossed.

>>1686322
http://barefoot-panda.deviantart.com/art/We-re-Back-1-301589449
http://tn-exposed.deviantart.com/art/Body-booty-thighs-and-feet-another-selfshot-350330618

Not sure if those can help.

>>1686322
Make sure you fix Braze's (the spanker) leg proportions. His thighs are way too short. If he hugged his thigh against his body, it should almost reach his collarbone... Or at least that's the way it is on my body. I can't remember the proper proportions.

>>1686193
You mean head.
the hands go roughly from the chin to the eyebrow.

>>1686193
>>1686349
Last time I checked, hands take up almost the entire face. Palm should be from chin to right above the nose. Your eyebrows should probably hit the beginning of the last section of your middle finger.

>>1686354
that's why i said roughly.
Yeah, i didn't check my own to type that.

>>1685588
eyes are too close together, remember there is a minimum distance of one eye between the eyes.

>>1685846
rinfag?
your eyes are still a bit too big, but that neck seems decent this time, the clavicles are acceptable too.
though you are still lost on the shoulders and arms, especiallly the arms.
it also took me a while to properly study arms and shoulder muscles but it's worth it.

>>1686077
i feel like you're talking to me :_;
well it's not like i particulary care about this, but maybe i've been sliding more towards moe these days because i don't really see how to use my other styles. or maybe i just lack the courage

>>1686322

The left guys face feels a bit off, both in composition and the expression doesn't really fit the image(IMO)

id like to hear some critiques

>>1686375
Shit anatomy, shit style, shit rendering.
Please, stop drawing.

>>1686375
don't listen to that overreactive faggot >>1686379

it's very inconsistent though.

>>1686375
Face is cute but anatomy is bad.

>>1686375
Don't be afraid to change up the lighting and skintone, white is pretty boring. Even some generic room with a desklamp or some concrete lightsource would make it more interesting.

Also take more care with your lineart, the shoulder is pretty shoddy. Try use thicker lines next time and then shave them down with an eraser where needed if you can't get weight in them properly in one stroke.

Wow this place really gone to shit hasnt it

>>1686375
heh oh WOW

thos arms, wow that left leg and thigh man, damn what were you thinking when you drew those feet and ankles? knees supposed to look like that? the hell is up with her breast?

looks pretty good i'm sure Christopher Hart would pass you with flying colors

>>1686302
No rules, just tools

>>1686387

Looks like it's your first day on /ic/, enjoy your stay.

>>1686441
/ic/ is just shit today
more shit than usual

>>1686443

ok

>>1685609
I like this!

>learning how to draw
>animu
Get real.

>>1686450

>learning how to draw
>/ic/

fix'd

>>1686302

It's only cheating if you get caught. i.e. if it's readily visible that you 'cheated'

In this case it's esily visible though since you sued the same filter over the whole picture. It might be better if you used different filters for different parts of the picture in order to differentiate the parts of the pic, like batgirl from the ground, having the same filter over everthing makes it a muddled mess with nothign standing out.

>>1686302

tricks can only get you so far

>>1686087
wow what the fuck

I'm working on this. I hate myself with a blind fury sometimes.

I always feel like my construction is alright, but when it comes to having the clean version it turns to shit. Is there a good way to clean up pic related?

>>1686586

I cannot make out what's supposed to be going on, really.

>>1686586
Probably because of all that chicken scratch, when you're in the construction phase be as clear and straight forward as possible limiting yourself to only a couple of strokes to get the form you want. This way it would be easier to read and easier to clean once you are doing the line art.

As a consequence from all that chicken scratching, the forms of the figure will not read and you fill find yourself getting frustrated as if trying to decipher an ancient language

This is as far as I'm going to take this one. I'm going to look into attaining good line and construction.

Anyone know any good books for this? Please don't say Loomis.

>>1686612
>Please don't say Loomis.

You're already biased and whatever resources we provide to you will be cherry picked why should we share this information with that attitude of yours?

>>1686612

>>1686612
Vilppu, a 1000 times more approachable than Loomis.

>>1686620
this. Also, Loomis' teachings show already stylized work, while Vilppu takes a much lighter approach, and actually teaches you stuff, not just guides you step by step so you learn how to draw Loomis style. If you want that kind of teachings, just go pick up a how to draw manga book or something, that'd be just as useful as Loomis.

>>1686622
weak b8 m8

>>1686622
you're a fucking idiot

>>1686322


>>1686331
Thx I think these have helped.>>1686347
>>1686347
I tried doing so hopefully
this looks better?

>>1686373

I've tried editing the face a little- perhaps his head is disproportionate?

Dose Braze's raised hand look alright? I'm going to start lining next.

>>1686645

>>1686647

I don't know the character but it seems like his forehead is too far back, or his face protruding too much.

Im quite happy how its turning out since I didnt know I could do something like this. Ive been studying some head construction with hampton and I think i didnt waste time by doing so. Any tips ? should I change the colour of background ? I picked it as an opposite colour so it can contrast more.

>>1686668

dat some jiub

>>1686669
?

I posted this a really long time ago, but I've just reconstructed basically everything, and even though its not really good, I feel like its getting better.

>>1686671
oh I remember you. 100000 layers guy. Keep going.

>>1686671
looks good to me.

do you have a tumblr or something?

>>1686671
I remember you, too.
I'm really liking this. Whatever changes you made, I think it turned out a lot better. Keep at it.

>>1686673
I'm cutting down this time, I swear!

>>1686684
I do, but don't really feel comfortable giving that out on /ic/, because there's no separation of personal and art.

>>1686690
then make one only for your art

>>1686692
I really should. I will. One day.
Not today. I'm lazy.

>>1686690
Yo dawg, start a pixiv.

I keep all my personal shit, studies, and doodles on tumblr, and when people ask to see my (anime) art I give them my Pixiv with my finished shit.

I'm wondering what the plus sides of inking are when it comes to coloring. like if it's even worth doing. even then i'll probably have to learn it anyways. but it's just so damn tedious.

>>1686694
Isn't pixiv in japanese? I've never really looked into it, all I know is that a lot of animoot professionals have one.

>>1686379
>>1686382
>>1686383
>>1686384
>>1686425
b-better?

>>1686699
It's available in (semi) English now. There aren't only anime professionals on there. A lot of people have one nowadays.

It also allows for your stuff to be found via SauceNAO. Anyways, if you decide to start one, throw it up on these threads and I'll add you.

>>1686707
Huh, I hadn't known that. Thanks. I'll try it out some time.

>>1686651
I tried playing with the hair a little bit to make it look less bulbous and tried to draw the hair line a bit closer to the brow on the right- Did that fix the problem? Here's the update with other face images of Braze.

>>1686710
I'm not him, but the one in the middle is a bit better than the other ones in terms of the hair. It's so huge, it looks like 90s anime hair--I personally think it looks old and outdated. I mean, unless retro-looking designs is a thing you want.

Dum fetish stuff

>>1686216
Are you who I think you are?

>>1686725
>Dum fetish stuff
I like your Panda, there's not enough Panda. The jut of her ass doesn't agree with her thigh, though.

>>1686299
the pose is good move on.

>>1686727
probably pushed cartoon-y anatomy too far. Should've been more inward?

>>1686725

its fangdangler you dork

This seem alright?
Haven't drawn anything in almost a year since my drawing pad stopped connecting to my computer, but I was wondering if it'd be worth getting another one.

its very ameturish study everything before having fun drawing.

>>1686734
K, den.

>>1686757
How are you supposed to get gud at something you don't like?

>>1686754
no. dont even think of digital if you suck as traditional

>>1686729
Thanks. I already did. This is my Rikku drawing. I liked the idea to keep it simple so i only used her outfit, not the armor parts and straps, but i feel like there is something missing, i don't know. It's good to read what other people think so please any tips or new ideas will be appreciated.

>>1686731
No, I just think her thigh should push out more to meet her butt. Like, Mrs. Incredible's is fine, but Panda's is probably a little too steep?

>>1686207
You. Don't you draw anything other than bust shots?

>>1686761
Can you tell me what's the issue? I know it seems off but I can't really tell what to fix.

>>1686762
I also made this one. Didn't want to move on to the lines for the Rikku drawing so i made this one while i waited for a response. I would love people here help me to get some ideas to make a sexy new suit for this Rogue drawing. I made my own redesign but it's kind of simple. I don't know, maybe i could get new ideas to make it hotter. Of course any other constructive critiques about it will be very welcome, loved the way my last drawing turned out with other people's help on the lines and colors.

In general, please let me know.

>>1686762
it might just be the awkwardness of the pose, but her right arm seems incredibly long. As for "something missing" you might want to try putting something in the foreground.

>>1686349
>palm should be from chin to right above the nose
>tfw my palm only goes from my chin to right below my nose because I have tiny hands

>>1686776
Meant to quote >>1686354

>>1686776 are you fucking kidding me? post a picture.

>>1686207
I figure get good at something simple before moving on to something complex.

>>1686716
>I personally think it looks old and outdated.

You can't really say it's outdated as it's not technically worse than newer styles, it's just different.

I personaly like it more than the stuff thats popular right now.

>>1686762
It looks like her eyes are almost too far apart

>>1686780

Copying isn't inherently bad if you pay attention to what you are actually drawing and not just mindlessly draw over it.

some more old doodles

>>1686774
Reference for the rogue drawing. Forgot to post it.

>>1686775
lol yeah, probably, though i thought on adding just the sky behind but maybe some tress would work too.

>>1686788
Mmm don't know anon, maybe the mask makes the eyes look too small and separated but the face is bigger. Will try though, won't hurt, thanks.

>>1686774
Rogue without suit. It's betetr to see proportions and relations between body parts. Also better to see a posibly new costume design. Can't wait to make corrections and then to make the lines and the painting of course.

>>1686697
Sunibee?

it's good just keep at it, also your animations are pretty decent too i'd like to see more

Drawing on a small screen is the pits.

Drawing from imagination is frustrating me a lot right now, and it feels like most of the time I am trying to remember how someone looked like rather than "invent" shapes and it also feels like I am looking for my comfort zone so I can draw it in 3/4 view or something I drew before.

I'm about to throw in the towel how do you guys go at it, do you build a visual library and just study something from all angles in perspective and memorize?

Well pic related, the best I can do from imagination right now.

>>1686769
Linework is very sketchy, coloring is terrible, the colors are terrible, you really need to work on your anatomy. I would pick up a digital painting tutorial and I would also suggest working on your foundations first before jumping into anime style.

>>1686815

There's nothing wrong with using references.

Don't know where to go from this

>>1686760
what do you mean ? you dont like to study ? or draw in general ?

>>1686815
>do you build a visual library and just study something from all angles in perspective and memorize?
Not quite. You really only need to learn the general proportions and basic forms of things and extrapolate from there. And you don't necessarily need to see something from a certain angle before you can draw it from that angle. You can infer a lot from just the orthographic views.

Say you wanted to draw a giraffe head: If you were provided with the front and side view (and optimally the top and bottom view), you should be able to construct that giraffe head from any angle you want - you've already been provided with all the information you need. In the event you decided to draw a 3/4 low angle view of the giraffe head, you should be able to do a decent job of it (though everyone will do a better job if the reference already matched the exact vantage point they needed).

In the real world you'll seldom find 'spec sheets' of orthographic views for everything you want to draw, but the same principal of extrapolation applies for even non-ideal conditions. If you have difficulty with this, then chances are you don't quite understand perspective well enough, and you don't know how to construct complex forms from basic forms well enough. You should be able to mentally visualize and rotate an object in a similar way to a 3D program would. You should be drawing and painting a bunch from life to fully internalize how to think in 3D space - it's not really a skill you can pick up if you only study from 2D sources.

If you're drawing animu heads, construct them from a box first so that you have a clearly defined front, back, top, bottom and sides. If certain angles give you difficulty, then study more real heads, and try sculpting real and anime heads - paying attention to major planes and proportions. At the very least, you'll now have a maquette that you can use as a reference.

>>1686369
Thanks, I noticed that too a bit late thought.

Anyway, I just tried practicing with this sketch I hope it looks less creepy. I also flattened and changed this quite a bit to make it look stylized.

>>1686375
There are more but i'd just like to note how the buttock on the right or the whole upper leg for that matter seems to stick forward. Especially considering the angle she's at.

>>1686848
a bow at full draw is usually more..bowed then that.

>>1686848
A left handed archer? You don't see those a lot.

Also the left thigh looks a bit thinner compared to the right thigh.

>>1686826
Maybe start by fixing the arms.

>>1684781

>>1686892
Push values. PUSH PUSH PUSH. Better oversaturated than under!

Remember to keep in mind: Break down some smaller shapes (like the tummy flabs) and figure out which direction they're facing.

>>1686835
That makes so much more sense, thank you!

>>1686369
yeah rinfag here. haven't worked on it since, but i'll look up on arms before I continue. Thanks for the advice.

>>1686897
>Remember to keep in mind: Break down some smaller shapes (like the tummy flabs) and figure out which direction they're facing.

fuck, just saw that


>Push values. PUSH PUSH PUSH. Better oversaturated than under!

people tell me that very often, i'm way too cautious with values, saturation and hue
i saw somewhere you should desaturate a bit on the shadows and high lights, maybe i overdid it?

>>1686935
forgot pic

>>1686879
I shoot bows left handed because of my left eye dominance, it's not rare. I'm right handed and actually prefer shooting left handed. Not him, just saying.

>>1686937
I'd focus on accurate drawing and working in grayscale for now. You don't need to desaturate the ref.

>>1686935
The way I see it, it's much easier to dial it back than to go-too-far. If you start too light, you'll be inching to increase contrast. But if you go too dark to begin with, you'll at least have some strongly defined shapes and it's easier to just pull it back.

Also, work in B&W just a little bit. Hue is hard when you can't ace value.

fffffuck

>>1687015
Lefty was right, Vaginas are scary.

Trying to imitate an art style right now but my understanding of form is giving me a bit of trouble right now.
Are there ways to get a better grasp of how things interact? Like for instance how stiff hair acts when someone turns quickly or how clothing acts when its form fitting and then goes loose at certain places?

I've been trying to make observation studies but they haven't given me the answers I'm looking for.

>>1687015
For some reason the thing got the highlights of the eyes black.

>>1687015
Have you ever seen a real vagina? Or an anus? Or a face for that matter?

>>1687019
119 or Shirow Miwa?

>>1686833
I said that in reference to the guy before about not drawing for fun until you've achieved a vague standard of mastery.

You should be drawing for fun, especially if you suck, since you'll be the only one to appreciate it at that point.

Drawing for fun doesn't mean you're not learning, you'd have to be a pretty dull individual not to get that. (you in the general sense)

>>1687059
i like that terrier

>>1687034
Miwa
The guy is my Idol.

>>1687015

That Asshole clenched so hard it became a doughnut.

>>1687059
I think this is really simple and cute!

>>1687194
That jaw is pretty broken

>>1686860
Changed it quite a bit.

>>1687245
She has a dead stare, might want to change her facial expression to match what she's doing.

>>1687245
the mirrored eyes are freaking me out

this pose is annoying. also kill la kill spoilers.

any advice before i start painting?

>>1687246
I see, I was aiming for a "please....be quiet...ok?" kind of expression...the reference wasn't really helpful though.

>>1687249
fwiw, I didn't mirror them, I only did that on my 1st portrait...never again.

>>1687254
but that fuckin hand tho

>>1687254
Raised eyebrows towards the center would probably be more fitting if "would you be quiet, please?" is the feeling. I would take a picture demonstrating it if I could.

>>1687245
Shadows are wrong. You seem to be meticulously repeating the same modeling process thinking it will fit any situation.

>>1687245
try sketching the rest of the hand and body on a larger canvas. You'll see that the arm is going in a very strange and uncomfortable direction.

>>1687245
She whisper or sniff her finger?

>>1687259
He hasn't the slightest idea how light works; continuously makes the same errors over and over.
We will be subjected to watching that piece of shit get polished for the next month at least.

What brushes/settings does everyone here use to sketch and line?

>>1687412
Hard round or flat with 0-20% minimum diameter and 20-40% minimum opacity.

>>1686762
Is she missing a tooth?

I wanna paint this, but I'm rusty.

>>1687522

cool excuses bro

>>1687522
do you do porn?

>>1687526
That's just the tough love I needed.

>>1687529
Yeah, not always, but yeah. Trying to broaden my horizons if you can believe it.

>>1687535
well it looks great to me

(got a link?)

>>1687538
various-n.tumblr, mostly just requests.

>>1687522
Tried painting the skin, turned out alright, will have to finish it.

>>1687442
Two actually.

>>1687608
I like this but, I don't really suggest painting with such a blinding background. It can really throw off your values, well, it does for me anyway.

>>1687633
I never noticed this before holy shit. She has a full smile in X-2 though, doesn't she?

thoughts on Levi sempai ?

>>1687637
Just brought the color down and it made a difference instantly, good look.

>>1687644
Eren needs to be moved up a bit. He doesn't look like he's even on his lap to be honest.. Also, I feel like the shine on the butt checks a bit off. They seem to be on the side of the cheeks instead of the tops.. I would also suggest toning it down to 1-2 shine dots instead of 4, because it's an overdone thing anyway and you're overdoing it in your picture.

>>1687644
The shines on that ass imply you have 4 different light sources shining in the room.

>>1687643
Not OP, but if I'm not mistaken, the cgi models of Rikku never had missing teeth in either game. Which leads me to believe the point of the missing teeth in that drawing is just to play up how prominent her front teeth are.

>>1687685
do you have a tumblr?

>>1687694
i dont sorry. i occasionally post on /ic/ though

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>>1687961
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>>1686762
the proportions are off, rikku is skinny/petite.

>>1687254
>hispanic loli nurse poster
wat

>>1686798
I think the hand that is clenched into a fist seems a little flat because of the angle; since she's coming toward the viewer (presumably to throw a punch), shouldn't her hand be curled a bit more forward such that we see more of the front of the fist?