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Sup /ic/. I'm torn between these two books. Which one would you recommend?

>> No.1677826

>>1677824

Key to Drawing <-----No doubt

>> No.1677828

>>1677824
I'm assuming that you're an absolute beginner. If that's so, than certainly the left one. And keep drawing, we're all gonna make it brah.

>> No.1677834

Keys to drawing hm?
Beginner here too - whats so great about this book? I just bought drawing on the right side and i'm wondering now, if i shoud get this as well.
There has to be a reason you recommend it - the people on this board seem to actually know stuff.

>> No.1677836

>>1677824
Never ever the right one.
And if you do than only the workbook.

>> No.1677843

>>1677824
The right one is a pep talk with a lot of pseudoscience and a few exercises. I started with it, and it was fine, but it's not the best thing you could start with.

Keys to Drawing has much much more practical and applicable information. Specifically it's the best guide I've seen for beginning drawing from observation. You might also consider picking up How to Draw by Scott Robertson. This covers a lot of info about making things out of basic shapes and applying perspective to things. Basically it will help you apply what you've learned in drawing from observation to your drawing from imagination.

>> No.1677858

Do the workbook for the right if you insist on doing so. Ignore the pseudoscience.

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1677863

>>1677824
Drawing on the right side of the brain might not actually teach you how to draw, but it can help you realize that you can learn to do it, that it isn't something you're born with or a talent but a skill you can develop.

It reminds of this game.

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>>1677863
>the fastest way to learn guitar
But yeah, you're pretty spot on.

>> No.1677870

>>1677863
True, but it's also true that the book itself is full of redundant shit and will waste some of your time.

>> No.1678433

>>1677836
>>1677843
>>1677870
These. Betty Edwards is a shit tier author who can't resist wasting space with either dumb shit, poorly researched crap, or anecdotal garbage no one cares about. I've read both Drawing of the Right Side of the Brain and Color and both could be cut down to about a third or less of what they are, even if you corrected all the bullshit misinformation.

>> No.1678434

>>1677824
KEYS TO FUCKING DRAWING MAN. I READ BOTH OF THESE AND KEYS IS FUCKING BETTER DUDE, ITS FUCKING BETTER THAT THAT SHIT BETTY. BETTY WILL JUST DUMP YOU BUT KEYS IS YOUR BRO.

>> No.1678437

get the 'workbook' version of drawing on the right side of the brain.
Most of the text is stripped out and it's just the exercises with a little paragraph about what to do and why. You draw right in the book and it comes with the little picture plane thing

>> No.1678438

I learned from both. They are the same approach, but with Keys to drawing you don't have to skip through pages of bullshit.

>> No.1678444

>>1677824
both are hippie stoner bullshit

stick with loomis, hampton and vilppu assuming you want to draw people

>> No.1678445

I learn from life and reality, not from books.

>> No.1678447

All you really need to know from those books is visual measuring (horizontal/vertical relationships). After that you can throw it in the trash bin.

>> No.1678450

>>1678445
Let's invent the wheel, shall we?

>> No.1679483

The sticky says that Loomis teaches the basics of construction - are there any other books that do this, so I can move onto perspective? It's just not working out for me with Loomis, so I'm looking for a different approach.

>> No.1679593

Are those books really necessary? I mean, wouldn't sticking with Loomis and Vilppu a better option?

>> No.1679596

>>1679593
Well, if you are as bad as me, you will start with these books because then your hobby is still just that and you postpone the serious stuff which would make you take drawing serious as well.

There's a place and a time for these books.
And an audience.
People like me.

>> No.1679605

>>1677843
Is there anywhere on the internet I can find this? I've tried all my usual sources, but to no avail.

>> No.1679796

I highly suggest you look to see if your local libraries have these books. I found Keys to Drawing and Drawing on the Right Side of The Brain (which I believe is on /r/ too). Both are meh, but teach to draw from observation instead of memory. Basically first steps.

>> No.1680159

>>1679796
Unfortunately I'm from Yuropistan, and there's little to no English books in our libraries.

>> No.1680392

I bet all the right brain master-race aren't here to argue to defend Betty White's book due to their intellectual superiority.

Left brain user plebs. You don't understand it because your imagination is limited.

>> No.1680410

>>1680392
>plebs
omg this is pathetic. The fact is there's no real left brain right brain shit. You fire signals all over the brain when doing imagination. The key is how to imagine, not left right shit.

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>>1679605
try bookza.org

>> No.1680421

>>1680410
there is no physical lateralization (actually there is a bit) but there is a real divide between the two types of learning.

by analogy the ancient egyptians probably thought feeding poppy sap to people stopped pain because it quelled some god or something. just because that's not why poppy sap works that doesn't mean opiates don't stop pain.

'right-brain mode' the most important part of the brain part of the book is real enough and is usually called 'flow.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)