/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1679452
yah they dont

>>1679457
is there a work around after posting a comment that's not a praise?

>>1679452
Let them circle jerk themselves to death

>>1679461
idk if you can delete your comment.

They will get a little upset. so what. let the butthurt flow.

>>1679468
trouble is, im arguing with one right now

>>1679471
too far in

>>1679476
Whats the argument about ?

>>1679478
Basically I put in a comment telling her to work on drawing hands more and she went on a rant on how i just dont understand and that the piece she drew are irrelevant to want she was comparing it to.

And now im stuck trying to justify a 5 word sentence or else i'll look like an ass.

>>1679481
just say "whatever you say" "if you say so" or something. Thats just some stranger from the net why care.

>>1679482
because muh rep and im commenting using the same account i use to dra-

and she just hid my comments

>>1679488
well then its over.

>>1679488
Always bank on someone's ego solving your ego problems ;)

>>1679492
I feel so accomplished for some reason

>>1679495
Well, it was a harmless comment. I didn't really have any malicious intent for it. Guess she took it the wrong way.

>>1679498
always be sure to be well mannered when critique someone. Also write it in a possitive manner.

>>1679503
well that's what i did. i know enough from watching /ic/ that insults always drive away the conversation from actual discussion about the art in question so i tried to be as rational as possible.

she still got mad

>>1679503
This. Especially on da. You almost have to give out compliments with each critique, like "Oh I love the way you did the hair, however I noticed something a little off with the hands" etc.

>>1679518
I remember when guy was trying to foreshorten the hand. He drew it 6x bigger then the whole body.

>the size of his hand is wrong
>NO ITS CLLED FARESHARETENENUNG
>ok.jpg

I was set up in Artist Alley, a woman came up looked through my prints and commented on one saying, "Breasts aren't drawn like that."

I shrugged and replied, "Well, I guess you won't be buying the print then."

There are times to critique and it would be welcome, and then there are times that you just shut up and say, "Nice, or Good Job," or nothing at all.

our janitor wants /ic/ to be da

>>1679529
>He drew it 6x bigger then the whole body.

Depending on how it's drawn and if it's consistent with the style or intent, it could work.

>>1679535
I thought of a lewd response.
I'm not ready

>>1679535
If she was right, you are scum who sells prints without having basic anatomic knowledge, hoping to trick ignorant teenagers into buying your stuff.
You deserve to be harshly critiqued, regardless of where you are, till you stop being a lazy fuck and learn anatomy.
If she was a feminist who thinks breasts should only be depicted as unattractive/super saggy/etc. though, you have my condolences and should probably have replied "Then show me how they are" or something to that effect, just to get her angrier.

>>1679498
>Well, it was a harmless comment. I didn't really have any malicious intent for it. Guess she took it the wrong way.

>>1679503
>always be sure to be well mannered when critique someone. Also write it in a possitive manner.

But that's the problem with the hugbox attitude that is so ingrained into Deviantart, no matter how nicely you put it they see anything less than dick-sucking as trolling or being mean. DA culture revolves around protecting fragile egos and immature highschooler mentalities.

>>1679488
>and she just hid my comments

Not surprised at all.

>>1679468
This. Ive watched deviantart since the god damn beginning and there is no saving it. Ive seen plenty of artists who went over TEN years there with no improvement because of the DA culture. Ive seen many in the past who to help, but the vast majority will just scream "muh style", "ur trolling", "no critique" , "im popular, fuck you", and a million other excuses. Its better just to let them crash and burn and learn the hard way.

>>1679554
wow

>>1679498
I recently learned about US culture that the sandwich technique of criticism works best.
>say something good about the piece
>say something "bad" about the piece, ie say what's wrong
>finish with a "other than that, it's good"

Chances are good that both your point will be taken and that the other person will get better through your feedback, instead of seeing you as a jerk.

>everyone is a US American
Well, have I got news for you regarding the internet..

>>1679564
do this, can't tell you guys how many times I've had fuckwits actually take my advice when it's dolled up like this

>>1679553
Interesting, you seem to be the same type of person who'd make the same kind of comment at a convention. You must avoid AA at conventions lest you burst a blood vessel from all your rage.

She was, in fact, heavyset and seemed to have a chip on her shoulder. If she were attractive I'd ask her to show me hers, or else not because I've seen enough saggy breasts in life drawing class.

>>1679452
I have a feelin that 99% of you are really bad at accepting feedback

Just a hunch.

>>1679631
what

I am so narcissistic, I just want to know why people hate me.

>>1679564
>I recently learned about US culture that the sandwich technique of criticism works best.

That's just American white people. They are entitled, brats that you have to tiptoe around otherwise you will hurt their fucking feelings all the time.

Meanwhile if you are not white they will say the most awfully fucked up things to you and then wonder why you are upset.

Everyone on the internet is bad at taking feedback.

>>1679729
It works because it's good. Pointing out what a person actually did good is not bad and has importance, you don1t have to only bring attention to the things they did wrong.

>>1679554
>manchildofthedecade


understatement
what a cunt

>>1679554
>ve seen plenty of artists who went over TEN years there with no improvement because of the DA culture.
This man, also it's not just them but also if you leave a critique their fanbase appear like the Inquisition or something. The worst is that some of them have actually admited what they're doing wrong but they basically don't give a shit since they keep doing the same mistakes because they're still popular.
By the way, any dA artist you used to admire but you don't anymore?
>Pic related

Thing is, there ARE places on Deviant Art you can go for harsh critique. Granted, you getting a response is far and few between. Especially since even joining a critiquing group, you still get the mentality of people being nice to you just so they don't hurt your feelings.

Meh, I prefer /ic/ and conceptart. At least it's not sugarcoated when I actually ask for help.

>>1679828

that deviantrahl metalhead dude. seemed like a god to me, when i was starting out. now i cant help but lol at his mediocrity.

but thats how you know he has a life, hobbies and friends. so good for him i guess. cant all be nolife loser arthermitnerds like myself.

>>1679564
close. it goes
>say what you like about it
>say what's wrong with it
>give advice on how to improve thing that's wrong

>>1679749
this. reinforcing good habits is just as important as correcting bad habits.

>>1679481
Got a link? How did you find it?

ASK DOBSON

Lolol I've seen a nice creature design from a dude and it's like 2011 or something. The anatomy, everything looked kinda cool. His work last 2 years: ponies ponies fucking ponies

>>1679564
>US culture that the sandwich technique of criticism works best.
There was a Disney Channel show I was watching that used that but I had no idea it was a real thing

>>1679882>>1679882
http://jjjorgie.deviantart.com/art/Draw-This-Again-2-0-438099319

>>1679828
There are more a few that I know and used to talk to that over time have plateaud and just started to draw themselves into a hole. It's a real shame because their earlier work had so much personality and felt much more dynamic and fun rather than just soulless commission work they do now.

No they don´t

(pic related)

>>1680231
that redline is bad though. seems to be a troll with notes on obvious style choices like 'pointed fingers' and misinterpreting the pose even though it's pretty clear.

>>1679554
>people say I do great work?!?! are they blowing smoke up my ass?
I feel bad for him now, his art isn't that bad either

>>1679539

>Depending on how it's drawn and if it's consistent with the style or intent, it could work.

could, but not often.

>>1680236
Its not the cleanest drawing, but all of his points are valid.

>>1679553
>If she was right, you are scum who sells prints without having basic anatomic knowledge, hoping to trick ignorant teenagers into buying your stuff.
Not OP, but guilty as charged.

>You deserve to be harshly critiqued, regardless of where you are, till you stop being a lazy fuck and learn anatomy.
But that's implying that I'm not? As a veteran AA'er, I can say that a lot of us start out as complete shit, but we're trying our hardest to get better. I don't really understand what's wrong with selling work to an audience that will buy it, regardless of whether or whether not the piece in its entirety is anatomically correct. And through improvement, that past piece will still be there, still be an object of criticism.
If people will buy it, it will be sold. I don't see how that makes us scum.

>>1680168
Who's up for going there and calling her out on her hand-hiding ways?

>>1680348
I already did, in fact, i was the first one and she hid my comments

>>1680348
OK, just posted a reply with honest critique. I sugar coated it enough to give her diabetes. Waiting for her to flip her shit anyway in, 3, 2, 1...

>>1680352
I'm talking bout flooding her with comments. Extra points for looooomis.

>>1680354
you do it, i wanna sit back and watch as it rolls

>>1680355
That's me at the bottom of the comment list. Dis gon' be good.

I just hope she doesn't nuke my comment before I wake up tomorrow. Going to bed now.

>>1680336
no they aren't. 2 of them are stylistic choices, odd light reflection? is nothing. lopsided torso and 'contradictory perspective' are the red-liner misinterpreting the pose, which you can tell not only because they're wrong but because their red-line has a different pose.

now the christopher-hart guy's picture is by no means perfect. but the red-liner is just being a jerkwad, the only possibly valid one is the floating eye, and that's only barely.

>>1679828
The best part about this image is that it's titled "on the move" but there is zero movement in that comp.

>>1680231
>free tutorials

>>1680168

You do realize you're harassing a 16 girl right?

Most of you were shit at 16.

and >>1680348

Some days you don't wanna draw fucking hands.

This is some lame shit at best.

Are most of you grown ass adults? Cuz if you are this is really fucking dumb. A whole thread to beating up on a teenage girl?

What the actual fuck?

I ain't white knighting this broad, but it seems VERY insecure to be lambasting a girl that likely is wondering if the guy she likes thinks about her and if her test scores netted her a B+

I'm gonna go ahead and say if you fucks feel threatened by a 16 YEAR OLD GIRL then you just need to give up on life. Just cut the cord and fall to oblivion.

Holy fuck you guys, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>1680499

Man, cut off that edge.

You're just the extreme opposite of what you're complaining about

>>1680510
so..you're saying he's a 16 year old girl picking on a bunch of adults?

>>1680512

He/she sounds like a kid, by basically telling that to kill ourselves and manage to find an excuse for the girl artist about the lack of hands in the improvement meme.

I'm not advocating to harass the girl in the dA comments (besides, what's the point if she's not going to listen and can easily hide them in one click?), but that anon needs to calm down.

>>1680514
oh i don't know, if you can't get angry about grown men picking on little girls what can you get angry about?

although i think if he is imagining a bunch of 25 year olds and not a bunch of 16-19 year olds he is probably wrong.

>>1680514
>oh oh oh lets harass people on the internet telling them shit sucks, quit art and everything but god forbid someone to tell us to kill ourselves because muh feelings r hurtz.

>>1680499
>I ain't white knighting this broad,

keep telling yourself that.

>>1679729
>That's just American white people.
Not so subtle racism: The post

I like that you feel open enough to share what you think the world is like with us. However, this is an all-encompassing statement that is far from true. Also, how would you know someone's race on the internet?

>>1680527
butthurt amerifag detected.

>>1680528
Guys, the sandwich method isn't working.

>>1680521

At my age dating a 19 year old would be considered statutory rape.

I don't white knight for children.

>>1680231
wow i just checked out that guys gallery and he's had books published

'Drawing animals made amazingly easy'
that is not how a horse works... if thats the cover example I hate to think what lurks inside

>>1680550
he's pretty famous dude, he's the original 'how to draw manga' hack.

http://chrishartbooks.com/do-you-need-talent-to-get-good-at-drawing/

what the hell am I reading

>>1680517
I admit I'm someone who rarely gets angry, and besides this is the internet. If you guys feel like you want to harass some random individual for whatever reason, go for it then, even if I do consider it as a waste of time imo.

>>1680518
Let's be honest for a second, she isn't good. I don't care she's 16 years old, I've seen people at this range of age who were more courageous to go out of their comfort zone, even if the results weren't always good.

And that's the problem with social websites, like deviantart. The community encourages artists to get terrible behaviors, and is hypocritical when it comes to praises/critiques.

>>1680550
that's not a horse, it's a hurse. please excuse while i play a laugh track.

>>1680552
>light blue comments
OH HELL NO

>>1680564
I fucking hate reading about people who can barely draw and then decide they should go to art school and have a fucking career in it. Would you go to engineer school if you could barely add up? Are the hard knocks just less obvious and more delayed or something? Having an art job is semi delusional and takes herculean effort even for people who have a demonstrated affinity ffs

>>1680565
"Well at least that matt stevanus guy from the comments seems to have gotten his act together I wonder what his work looks like"

pic related

>>1680550
For kids his books about cartoon animals are pretty decent actually. I had a few when I was like 8 and they went into structuring anatomy, dynamics, body language and animation principles. Every other generic drawing book I came across were purely "how to copy this exact image". His realism and manga stuff though... no, not so much. The disparity is astonishing.

>>1680565
>being this mad
hahahahhaahhahahaosjdhfjasdjf
the number of people who aren't god like at drawing and have made careers out of it is not so bad. Like, typical deviant-art quality artists. Sure they might not be ridiculously rich doing it, but if they are making a living, who gives a shit? There are so many fields to integrate your art into, and so many ways to make a profit, plus art school (depending if it's not entirely shit) teaches you some fundamentals/puts you in an environment where you have to get shit done and become a little better out of it.

I mean, your example is pure shit because the guy who goes to art school even if he sucks, likes to draw, where as engineering might be boring as fuck... like it's not that hard you just need practice practice practice with whatever you do. LOL

>>1680568
>I’m still learning and thanks to my determination, I even became extremely skilled with 3D! I could never understand and struggled with 3D for a long time but now it’s cake and I’m an expert character modeler

hahahahahahaha

>>1680734
whatever helps you get up in the morning

>>1680565
That's no reason not to take it up as a hobby. He never said that'll you'll be able to make a living out of drawing, he just gave an example of someone who did.

>>1680550
I have one of his books after i bought it out of curiosity.

It's horrible, i wouldn't even dare touch it again
I'm sticking with Looms

>be me
>commission piece from animation school graduate
>6 months later see work she did of benedict cumberbitch that has a hideously placed/proportioned mouth
>leave comment, preparing my anus for fiery devastation
>she says she worked hard but it was the best she could do at the time
>everything went better than expected

>>1680499
It's not so much that she's shit as to more that she has a shit personality

>>1680499
>I ain't white knighting this broad

:)

>>1680546
>At my age dating a 19 year old would be considered statutory rape
>dating a 19 year
>rape


this fucking guy.

>>1680546

What kind of psycho state do you live in? This guy fucks 17 year olds, legally.

>>1680236
But, it looks better than Chris' art..

>>1681030
to you. if i were in a book shop and i was some parent looking for a how to draw book i would pick chris hart's because it looks like a kid could draw it, it looks organised and finished, and it looks like that shows on the tv pokerman, dragon ballsy and the sailor room.

and confidentially i just like it better because it looks more like a cat girl maid. the other-one looks like bea(sp?) from bee and puppycat(not anime) cosplaying as a catgirl.

>>1681030

Tought so as well

>>1681017

Age of consent here is 16.

But only creeps and pedo's would do that. And thinking otherwise is a sign that you might need to examine yourself.

Besides, I only like mature women. Not old ladies, but I got a thing for Puma's and Cougars.

>>1680555

Everything you've said makes you a sociopathic douche.

>>1680995

>News Flash!!!!

This just in!

All teenagers have shit personalities.

>>1681015

Its seems you cannot into Hyperbole

>>1681054
Not all teens are from murrica

>>1681064

I'm sure your beautiful snowflake of a country has perfect little ass hats running around with just as much self entitlement.

>>1681069
nope, of all the people from various countries i've talked to only murrica has people like her. other countries will at least listen to your reasoning and sometimes even try to put up an actual argument for discussion and why they think theirs is correct.

>>1680995
>Hey you're doing this wrong
>Um, thanks for commenting, but I don't really want a critique
>Wow don't be a bitch we're HELPING you
>Please stop
>STFU STOP HIDING HANDS
>HEY GUYS LOOK AT THIS SHIT, LET'S SPAM THE SHIT OUT OF THIS CUNT. LE PERSONAL ARMY STRIKES AGAIN XDDD
I don't really see how she's the one with the shit personality.

>>1681073

What's that smell?

>Bullshit.

>>1681074
That's not even how it went

>Work on your hands

>Excuse me?

>yes

>That's just how the pose works

>But with each progression your hiding more and more of the hands

>Uh. that's just how the pose works. Oh, and the other two are irrelevant because they are years old.

>So comparison isn't relevant?

>Look, I dont think you know what you're talking about. The two other pieces are irrelevant because I've OBVIOUSLY improved since those.

>I was just talking about how you need to work more on the hands area since you're using a meme that depicts comparison and progression of one's skill after time on a piece. I won't deny you improved on some aspects but you leave others hanging and even leave them to deteriorate which in this case are the hands which you draw less of. And even if you improved, it doesnt make you impervious to suggestion and comments that are not praise. So please calm down.


and she then goes to hide the comments and block me. notice that i tried to come off as calm and as rational as possible while saying those. i did not use any insults nor did i name call and she doesnt really give any justification and hides the comments instead.also i never brought people to spam her or anything, another anon suggested that. i merely brought this subject of dA being hard to accept feedback as a discussion.

>>1681077
who are you quoting?

>>1681079

>hey guys! I not mean! She da mean one!

>Its not like I couldnt' take things into perspective and think about her feelings and skill level.

>People wanna hear the truth all the time! Its not like they could get upset at my lack of tack!

>Why girls always friendzone me? Why everyone made at my expert artness?

>Why everyone mad?

>Why mad?

>I'm right! Why mad?

What you sound like.

>>1681081
I don't see how you could derive that from the conversation.

I was going through a random group's gallery and saw it so i jumped right ahead to comment and waited for a reply while i was doing something else

when i refreshed the comment was replied to then said conversation ensued. at the time i didnt really know if it was a he or a she nor did i care. i just gave my two cents

>>1681084
>i just gave my two cents

That no one asked for but you HAD to give it you absolutely HAD to. The universe would have fallen out of the sky if you didn't tell this girl how to do her art then re-post your disgust on /ic/...

Sounds legit to me.

>>1681104
so am i not allowed to exercise the right to just speak my opinion just for her comfort?

>>1681105

Not if you can't figure out when its actually useful and when you're just doing it to wank your own art 'prowess'

The phrase goes: "Idiots speak because they HAVE to say something, the wise speak because they have something to say."

But your narcissism what let you see that, so you'll be a socially stunted turd the rest of your teen bash life.

>>1681110
I had something to say, what of it?

If im not allowed to say anything that you are the same type of people that dobson is a figure that should never be questioned. are you saying that me mentioning the hands was somehow of narcissism? how?

>>1680546
Is there even a country in the world where 19 is below the age of consent?
If so.. top fucking kek.

>>1681128
Isn't Nevada 16?

>>1680231
>the person whom you are lecturing
>whom
So apparently he can't into grammar or art.

>>1681118

>Me rIgHt alL DuH tiMe!

>yOU dObSON noW!

>SeA! Me mAke YOu DObsoN! LOLLOOLOL!

Not even the same thing dude. You're an adult picking on a teenage girl and nitpicking things she's likely to figure out on her own. You solicted your comments on you own accord and were looking to troll someone, but now we've show your an ass for it you feel uncomfortable and can't go away unless like you feel you've won the argument and are righteous in doing so.

tl;dr

Winning an internet fight is like winning the special Olympics.

>>1681133
so now, writing a legit point which is the hands is now trolling?

>>1681133
>Winning an internet fight is like winning the special Olympics.
But golly, you sure are trying! LOL

I want to introduce /ic/ to the compliment sandwich.

COMPLIMENT
COMPLAINT/ERROR
COMPLIMENT

Use it, avoid confrontation much easier while pointing out something wrong, etc.

>>1681136
>writing a legit point

Still can't get away from feeling RIGHTEOUS.

See you're still doing it. Trying to fill that uncomfortable void of feeling awkward for doing something shitty and won't fess up to it.

>>1681139

Nope. Just waiting to host an artist Jam around 11:30 and still have about an hour to burn.

Just my pet project until then.

>>1681150
and what is that?

if anything i only see you projecting right now.

>>1681160

Keep deflecting son! I can sling this shit all day!

It would be projecting if you hadn't provided us with a link and your shitty attitude. But instead we have concrete proof that you're just an arrogant prick.

>>1681164
hey, the guy asked and i just put up a link.

>>1681164
mate, you are projection to a degree.
fuck the 16 year old bitch.
the words the other anon gave her were nothing but going to further a possible future for the child in the art world.
stop being a pleb tier troll.

you so mad, please stop your mad anon, for the children, stop your mad.

>>1679749
It's just that white Americans don't like to feel bad, but are ok with everyone else feeling like shit. Example, they have no issue with openly criticizing the culture of others or an entire people, but when it comes to them, you have to care about _their_ feelings.

For example, I have had European and Asian teachers be honest with me. Like, completely, honest. On the flipside I have had one white America teacher who is honest with me in like all of my art school life. Of course when you are doing something right they will laud you for it, but there's no pussyfooting around what they are tying to say.

I have seen too many white Americans, especially white American women, talk one way in someone's face and then talk something nasty and fierce behind that same person's back. I find it to be insincere. I'd rather the person just be honest, because then I feel that I can trust that person. This is, imo, one of the biggest problems with white American culture, and it's something that white American women do super often. Unless you do this then you will be labeled a bitch, scary, or just mean. This even though you are probably more sincere about it then the other person who is perpetrating a fraud.

>>1680527
>Not so subtle racism: The post
>Also, how would you know someone's race on the internet?

Because only a white American would label an honest critique on them or recognizing race as being 'racist.' Yet when they do it it's not racism at all, but them just being 'honest.'

>omg so useful ;///v///;
>perfect!!!!! oh my god :^)

lel, this + 45689908 "tutorials"

>>1681264
hahaha oh my god, it's like you don't know that all women do this shit.

In italy aoc is 14, but 99% of the population think it's 18.

>>1681288
you couldn't have picked a more terrible example. there's way worse tutorials out there.

>>1681264
Defensiveness has nothing to do with race and everything to do with personal insecurities and sensitivities. If it is more prevalent in America, I would attribute it to bullshit like political correctness and female gender roles that demand society censor all potential meanness so that no one's feet are trampled on.

Are you talking about honest feedback in an adult setting (college) or in public schooling? It actually makes a huge difference, because what comes out of your professor's mouth is not held to the same standard as your high school art teacher's. Public school teachers can get canned for some really trivial shit (like their purely-educational honest opinion that was misinterpreted) that a college professor would just say "deal with it" about. I don't believe professors should skirt criticism to spare feelings, but then again, my ideal teacher is Severus Snape.

But you know what? If you don't feel like you're getting the most out of your education you can change that. Instead of passive aggressively whining about your teachers on 4chan where most of them will never LEARN from their mistakes, why not bring it up? Ask - no - DEMAND that they tell you the truth. I can't see why any teacher would refuse to offer a non-sugarcoated opinion if it was what the student really wanted. If your teacher still can't refrain from the urge to pat your butt after that, maybe she's not seeing a problem, which could be good or bad. Good in that maybe you're too harsh on your work, or bad in that you got saddled with an unskilled teacher.

>>1680168
She's just being rude tbh
I don't understand why some people don't accept help, especially when it's worded nicely(as your suggestions were).
deviantArt is shit
wow

>>1681331

She acts like that because everyone on DA react that way.
I don't even understand the sense of this thread.
A 16 years old doesn't like critics? Just move on. Why do you care?

>>1681339
because it's fun to talk about shit

>>1681264
>Because only a white American would label an honest critique on them or recognizing race as being 'racist.'
Do you even illastrat?

>browsing deviantart for the lulz
>people keep posting "adoptables"
>read about them for a second
>person wants you to pay them $3 for permission to make fanart of their horrible furry artwork which they made on a "base" in the first place

>>1681398
it's capitalism motherfucker

>>1681398
I always kek when I see that shit. Like, how retarded are these people? And yet apparently it works, so other people are more retarded yet. It's just like a whole circlejerk of retardedness.

>>1681398
Has anybody ever just used all these "adoptables" without permission?
I wonder how much buttraging I would cause If I just rolled into deviantart and lifted them, also every "original" character in sight.

>>1681130
AFAIK like half the states are 16, the rest 17.

>>1681419
i've considered doing that but ultimately i am too lazy/would rather work on something legitimate. i'm sure it would cause a lot of drama. would deviartart ban you, though? what if you drew things that were extremely similar but had some small difference and said it was original?

>DON'T F*CKING STEAL!!!

>>1681052

So not giving a damn of what happens to random strangers I don't even know on the Internet is considered as sociopathic now?

Well, I guess fine, then.

>>1681817
Exactly, you don't give a shit. You can't do anything about being a sociopath, you just are one. We just know you can't be reasoned with because you lack empathy. It can be considered a great strength. But when we identify it, it's a red flag for an overall shitty, untrustworthy human.

>>1681861
Not that anon, but you clearly don't know what a sociopath is. Maybe you can ask politely for his email if you want to continue this pointless personal vendetta? You're adding nothing to an already pointless thread with your whining.

>>1681867
I am free to point out what I like. You sound like you're well invested in this pointless thread, since you've paid enough attention to the conversation to even know what we're talking about.

I wish you guys would direct your torment to people that need an ego check.

For example, if you've ever been on /r/cringe or /r/cringe pics. It's full of some of the most unchecked egos imaginable. These are people who deserve a nice reality check. But you're attacking teenagers, when most of you are adults. It's like kicking a baby. This is why people are offended by what you're doing. I GET attacking dobson or chris chan or anyone like that. But come on a 16 year old girl?

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this is the kind of thing that encompasses 90% of the site.

Redditors think it's bullying. But these are people who are completely delusional. A 16 year old that likes to draw anime and share it with her friends, does not bother me.