/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1664852
What a shitty drawing to start the thread. Fuck off.

>>1664849
>OP
First and foremost, I have to recognize that the previous thread was rather productive. People posting their drawings and getting feedback, let's keep it like that gals! (since, turns out most of your are according to the previous thread)

>>1664852
LOL

>>1664855
why you so bad? fuck you

>>1664855
>>1664861
Classic stylization thread posts.

>>1664852
Yo, I've seen your stuff a couple of times the last few days and I'm not gonna lie - it's not super good technically speaking. But there are still some things I really like - the profile in the top left, for example. It has a certain grim caricature-like feel to it.

It feels like you could develop a pretty neat style if you study proper anatomy and construction and apply that knowledge to your current style.

Keep on studying and don't give up, anon. I'd be interested in seeing your take on the decadent and inbred European nobles of centuries past.

>>1664870
I like the bottom left one.

>>1664870
I like the bottom right one.

>>1664852
I agree with >>1664870 keep it up.

How do I get better at drawing from imagination?

I just can't seem to do it.

>>1664874
draw tons of images without ref.

take notes of what you're having trouble with, study then draw again without ref.

>>1664877
I suck at drawing from ref, so I guess I have to learn how to draw from ref first. Thanks.

workin on this comiss right now trying to figure out muh style. debating weather not not I should continue using outlines or not. also
so I normally do the line art first but for this one I skipped that and when strait into rendering. Im not sure If I should use outlines for this one. I added a few to see what it would look like. what do you guys think?

workin on this comiss right now trying to figure out muh style. debating weather I should continue using outlines or not.
so I normally do the line art first but for this one I skipped that and when straight into rendering. Im not sure If I should use outlines for this one. I added a few to see what it would look like. what do you guys think?

>>1664893
you can't draw without reference, can you?

does it look like she is walking?

The only thing I want to draw is animu. At what point do I start studying that instead of all this Loomis/Villpu/etc that I'm currently working with. I'm putting in hours every day on these things, and getting next to no enjoyment out of it, but when making crappy stuff (like this image) I have fun. Will I really not improve at drawing animu by attempting to draw animu?

>>1664893
>style.
practice drawing faces and hair if you want to draw proper H.
it's because you leave them out so often that even when you do draw them, they look inpersonal and noobish.

i'd say that character is very important to style and cartooning in general. and the expression , hairdo and clothes play a huge part in it.
but for you: if you are always drawing naked people, you have to at least use the face and hair to show character, otherwise they have no character at all.

>>1664893
You can use lines to show forms that are in places with no high contrast or color the lines or use them to define features
that you want to stand out. It's not just huge black lines everywhere or none at all.

>>1664902

>The only thing I want to draw is Animu.
>Will I really not improve at drawing animu by attempting to draw animu.

Yes. You will not improve until after you learn how to use the fundamentals in Animu.

Now go away Bait-Chan.

>>1664899
Her left arm looks rather awkward. I wouldn't want to be carrying anything like that. And her back leg looks too high up unless she's walking down a hill/stairs (which the rest of her body doesn't suggest). Her right arm is strange as well, but not as bad. Also, adjust the shoulders (and of coarse the hips, but I think you already did that?) to emphasize the weight changing.
Sorry if anything I said didn't make sense. My eyesight is shit and your lines didn't help.

>>1664902
don't study anime you dweeb, ever.

>>1664893
Personally I prefer it without, but if you usually draw outlines in your art then I wouldn't change it for a commission. They might have chosen you because they like the way you outline your work or something.
Also whilst the rendering an anatomy is generally decent, that arm is long and her hand is massive, if it's supposed to be foreshortened then the angle of that arm doesn't look right. That hand would make sense if the woman in the center is masturbating and it's her hand.

>>1664909
>after you learn how to use the fundamentals in Animu
How will I learn that if I'm not trying to draw animu though? Am I supposed to just practice until my figure drawing looks good, then jump into anime?
To be clear, I don't mean drawing animu like
>>1664905
I mean the cell shaded animu that you actually see in anime.

>>1664893
Can you do a new coloring tutorial?

>>1664918
>How will I learn that if I'm not trying to draw animu though? Am I supposed to just practice until my figure drawing looks good, then jump into anime?

You are missing the point, do studies first. Knuckle down on perspective, learn how to work with basic forms, tell a story with lines of gesture to convey action and movement, know how to describe forms in space.

Then after all that and more use everything you've learned on Animu.

God, these threads fucking suck.

I'm actually glad Teal left so that he doesn't have to deal with your bullshit and unwillingness to learn.

>>1664918
Ask yourself, why do you practice? You practice for understanding. You yourself must improve your understanding of what you are drawing. Anime consist of simplified figures, so in order to properly simplify them you need to understand things about the figure. Drawing people more will make this process incredibly easier because you will also gain muscle memory/improved coordination, but understanding is paramount. If you alternate between figure practice and anime, you will start to make connections between the figure and it's simplifications/exaggerations in anime. The same goes with many of the fundamentals. Understanding of perspective will help you objects in space in relation to each other and practicing it will make this process easier to "see".

>>1664925
Comes before >>1664918 also.

>>1664849
I recognize this bunny.

>>1664925
>>1664928
I think I get what you guys are saying, but
>If you alternate between figure practice and anime...
My question is more, when do I start doing this? And I have some trouble understanding what techniques will or won't apply. Are there any tutorials/books/channels/etc that are recommended for animu that I could be going through simultaneously or after I finish Loomis/Vilppu? I keep coming across massive amount of stuff for drawing comic styled characters, but nearly everything I've seen on animu is terrible.
To be clear, my goal is to make short animations and I want to be able to get to the level that I can actual start trying to animate stuff as quickly as possible, even if the results aren't fantastic.

>>1664870
thank you very much good anon.
also anyone how to made own style?

>>1664873
thano you too

>>1664942
Style kinda comes naturally as you begin understanding shapes and how they relate to each other, you get a feeling for how you prefer to do things.

My advice, even if I'm not very good, would be to just have fun and experiment - don't worry too much about your own personal style since it'll grow and develop naturally the more you learn, draw and experience.

>>1664902
how can someone who study vilppu videos for hours produce this shit ?

>>1664898
Not the artist, but what exactly are you claiming to be the ref for this?

>>1664940
Stop thinking of "animoo" as if it was a very specific style... I mean, it IS very specific but that's for another thread. For animation what you need to pay close attention to -from what I've heard- is to the gesture, particularly torso construction. Draw some quick gestures trying to capture the movement of the spine and head, then legs then arms because arms are just attached to the shoulders and they are a bit more independent in terms of movement.

>>1664954
Image was from before I started Vilppu (I was already doing Loomis at that point though). I also put nearly no time into making it. Was original going to make a chibi version of boogiepop, then realized I don't know what chibi looks like, so I just put lines down and finished it quickly.

>>1664958
That's actually really helpful. I was going to go through animation books after I was comfortable with my drawing, but I think I should skim through them first to know what to be looking out for/practicing on.

How can I draw like dis?

>>1664965
>that fucked up anatomy and perspective

>>1664965
>>1664968
lol oh god what is happening to the ribcage and the pelvis

>>1664969
Klk style

>>1664965
this kid's from facepunch
>>1664968
>but muh render

>>1664962
show your better stuff

>>1664965
I came but I know it's shit.

Help me plox

>>1664974
Get off to this and we'll be square.

>>1664965
That looks terrible.

>>1664965
Redline plis

>>1664978
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You know that what you call "anime" is just cartooning in japan, right?
unless you're saying cartooning in general is also only about copying.
while there's some truth to that, it's still more complicated than that.
the point of cartooning is not the "style", it's being able to draw many things from imagination without taking too much time.
you can't judge cartooning on the same terms as your "art" since it has a fundamentally different purpose.
by it's nature its:
-simpler
-about depicting things from imagination.
-easier to animate
Stop comparing fanart or manga to art

>>1664979
Why should anyone redline a random drawing you found on the internet?

>>1664978
Very convincing critique.

>>1664982
because you guys apparently have a lot of knowledge on it's anatomy

>>1664985
#rekt

>>1664981
style: the magical word that justifies your lack of understanding

>>1664989
The anatomy is pretty accurate dough.

>>1664977
I don't get it.

>>1664973
I haven't put more than an hour or so into any animu, and haven't done anything animu recently other than while bored during some college lectures (image is from last class so you can see what I mean). I'm not sure I have any more or less completed 'better stuff'. Unless you wanted to see my attempts at studying references or something? I can probably save you the trouble though and tell you that they aren't pretty.

>why is my art so bad? it's anatomically correct.
>why is that art so good, even though it's not anatomically correct?
>it's not f-fair, i m-must be right! his art is b-b-bad!

>>1664983
0/10

>>1664996
then dont even start with manga style. start when you are good with a "normal" style.

>>1664991
Accurate to Trigger's bad anatomy maybe.

>>1664998
This.
I see nothing wrong with >>1664965

>>1664965
I can see the mistakes, mostly around the pelvis part, but seems to be done that way on purpose given that the artist clearly understands foreshortening and volume.
>Muh Style
In a way it is, but there are degrees of whether you can get away with it or not and to me this guy can.

WIP First time drawing MUHSTYLEANIMUZ without lines. Fuck I have no idea what I'm doing. I swore to myself this year I'd try out new things though.

>>1665024
Looks good. I like it.

>>1665027
I was hoping no one had seen it before I deleted it.
>T-t-thank you though.

wip.

>>1665169
tail to short

>>1665172
*too

>>1665169
how do you find so much time to draw? Are you NEET by any chance? (Not in a mean way, just genuinely curious)

>>1665178
>Are you NEET by any chance?
im not him but googled it.
Well..being NEET is exactly what helped me to draw more often to be better and now i work as freelance artist.

>>1665172
Noted! Thanks anon.

>>1665178
Actually, no. I'm a student and I also work part time. I just draw in the in betweens, or by waking up early/staying up late.

>>1665169
Are you doing all of the Free! guys? And there's something off about his face. I think the bottom of his mouth is too straight.

>>1665187
You betcha. I've got Makoto done, and the sketches+colors done for Nagisa and Haru.
I tried to round it out a little more, does something still seem off?
>>1665172
Is this any better? I'm scared that if I make the tail too long he won't seem s shota-y.

>>1665302
Yeah I saw Makoto in another thread. The mouth is still a little flat IMO, but it might just be preference at this point; I'd let someone a bit better at anatomy judge what's up with the mouth. The eyes seemed a smidgen high, but now that I know you're going for the shota look it seems okay.

>>1665302
If you like having your CP reminiscent of deformed or ill-proportioned kiddies than sure, he'll be 'shota' enough. What self respecting pedo wouldn't want to fantasize about raping a gorilla armed dolphin boy midget with a broken clavicle?

>>1665311
Heh, so I guess that means its still not long enough? I'll work on that then. And is the clavicle at the wrong angle or is it too high/too low? I've been staring at it for too long.

>>1665315
There appears to be a hole dug where it is, it looks collapsed. Compare and contrast.

How long should a drawing from scratch should take?
Something like this
>>1664905


I'm too obsessed about speed. If something takes me more than 2 hours my brain melts. So I have been developing a lot of actions and scripts to save as much time as possible.

Pic related, it took me 15 minutes.

But cleanup takes forever. It makes me mad because during the Jap streams the artists never clean up. They don't use construction lines or ever color beyond the boundaries. Why are the NIps so damn fast. Fuck.

>>1665324
I think you're absolutely retarded to be worrying about speed, it comes with time and everybody is different.

My whole thing is I want something to take a long time, I want to waste my day away drawing but I can't.

>>1665320
ooooh, that's the issue. I tried to soften it up a little bit, is this any better? I still want to get that little dip but I don't want it to look broken either.

I've been trying to design a character that suppose to be a parody of the recent string of "cute but crazy" girls that's been showing up. Nui Harime and Junko Enoshima, for example

Does anyone have any suggestions? I feel that her design is too boring so far.

>>1665333
change the mouth, it looks dumb

>>1665336
you look dumb

>>1665334
give her an afro like afro samurai

any of you guys have a reference for this pose?

girl's head facing down (burying her face into a stuffed animal) while she looks up

i don't wanna fuck this up

already trying to find similar images but i thought i'd ask you guys too

>>1665334
i think it looks too much like nui.

no matter what you do, if you have giant puffy pigtails and a frilly dress, it's going to look like nui. The eyes looking exactly the same doesn't help your case either.

>>1665334
I want /a/ to leave

>>1665357
Is he a drawfriend from /a/? Where can I find more of his work?

>>1665358
Ah, I'm no drawfriend, actually.

>>1665357
lel no, just a matter of time before /v/ /jp/ /a/ takes over /ic/.

>>1665363
Lots of /v/ros and br/a/hs here but /jp/ isn't here. Not a lot of touhou art as you can see.

>>1665366
well good, if /jp/ stays in their own little board all is right with the board

>>1665324
You should prioritize getting your drawing to look right over speed.

>>1665324
Well unless you're watching a livestream...live, most speedpaints and whatnot are sped up anyway. And for fucks sake take your time.

>>1665334
like pinkie pie!

i think they're called 'manic pixies' in the tongue of the tropers

>>1665382
>>>/mlp/

>>1665383
you know i don't actually watch my little pony, i subscribed to a brony channel on youtube because i was interested in the subculture, seems more or less the same as one of those little girl animes, animangu or hiti..hitchi..mari.. sketch 365, ichigo mashmeru etc. so i don't get all the hate

>>1665386
It's western so 4chan hates it

also a lot of the fans think it's fun to publicize their interests, which is taboo for anime

>>1664849
I think Breast line should be higher but need confirmation. wip

bump

Progress from >>1663553

Does this looks sort of ok now?
I was thinking about turning the head to the left too.

>>1663606
Thanks!

>>1664165

I appreciate the critique but I will take my chances like I always do. If I dropped everything /ic/ told me to abandon I would have missed some of my best pieces, worst case scenario I still learn something.

>>1665408
is that you, mikufag?

>>1665421
Haven;t posted any vocaloids here since the fail one...

>>1665423
wip. Leaving this for tonight. Critiques would be appreciated. I'm ass at clothing/fabric

>>1665421
Nope

help

>>1665440
This is pretty good, the only complaint I got is that her head looks kinda outta place with the rest of her body.

>>1665324
stop being retarded. stuff like that takes days of work.
you really shouldn't worry about time. instead, worry about putting some thoughts into your work.

with me, i think the quality of my stuff is directly linked to the level of concentration i had while making it.

>>1665510
days? no way. ~7 hours

>>1665440
Are you tired of being shit yet?
Those are the same eyes i see on each of your drawings. Same figure of a fat 30 year old woman
>0 appeal

>>1665408
Her head looks so off.. like, imagine if you were to be taken aback by something, shocked at what you're hearing.. It looks so awkward.

>>1665440
Study:
Gesture
Adding volume to your forms
Neck musculature
Shoulders and surrounding bones/muscles
Hands and forearms

>>1665519
>>1665516
Thanks.

>>1665524
Almost forgot, here's the reference I used if it matters...

>>1665515
that's 1-2 days of working on it for me.
and you really shouldn't count it like that. 7 hours doesn't necessary mean you should do it in one sitting.

of course you can, but the way you talk makes it seem like you just want to get TEH BEST done as quick as possible. and if you are >>1665324 you really have other things to worry about.
concentrate on quality, goddamnit.

>>1665527
>>1665440
say are you doing those small shoulders on purpose? i thought you were, but looking at the reference, maybe it's a habit of yours?
you could try to go for broader shoulders. well proportioned broad shoulders can add femininity.
of course the shoulders in the photo are a too broad for my taste, but the shoulders you draw are also too small. in combination with muscles it doen't look very good imo.

in terms of bodytype you are drawing the loli. have you tried out other builds that could emphasize the muscles better?

also your faces are always somewhat flat.

>>1665535
>well proportioned broad shoulders can add femininity.
What, no they cannot. In fact, that reference's torso is quite masculine, minus the arms. The only thing he would achieve is a manly looking girl.

>>1665536
i said well proportioned. and i said the photo is too broad and not what i meant.
well proportioned shoulders are just broad enough so that your arms can hang freely.

just look at any model, yes also japanese ones and idols.
compare their shoulder to ribcage ratio and compare that proportion in your (if you are that guy) drawings.

the combination of loli shoulders and muscles just makes her look like a loli manlet

>>1665536
yes they can, like in say aeon flux or 80s fashion.

Help, how do I get my faggot friend to stop making excuses on why he can't learn how to draw?

>>1665544
You don't. Let him rot

Practice.

>>1665552
nice colors

>>1665552
Nice man, got a tumblr?

>>1665552
cute. it's nice

I am having a lot of trouble trying to copy a character.
My basic goal is to be able to draw the character in a bunch of scene's and poses. So I figure I will need to draw the base pose and figure out how to get every detail exact on her. I keep making it feel disproportioned and too thin of legs/arms, too tall, face seems emotionless, and hair is flat. I can't seem to capture the character in my drawing. Can anyone give me advice?

I feel like even if I can manage to get the lines in the right place, with the right angle, I can't get the curves exactly right, or the besier curve or whatever. And my line weights are shit. But basically everything just end up a bit off making it seem like shit.

>>1665559
>copying drawings

You will never learn anything.

>>1665559
Quit trying to animu, you obviously have problems on a fundamental level. Read the sticky again and start practicing.

>>1665561

I'm pretty sure everyone can agree that there can be something to be learned from copying a drawing, even if only how to draw that picture.
>>1665562

>Trying to create fanwork without learning the details of the character.
>Animu is bad art blah

Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it.

>>1665559
If you want to be able to draw that character from any angle, you don't need to think about the line placement. You need to break her down into shapes. These shapes are what you will attempt to place in various angles and poses. If I were doing what you were doing now, instead of comparing line to line, I would compare shape to shape. For example, If I were to pick up right where you left off, I would simplify her thigh into a shape next, and compare it to the other leg length, then sketch out that shape. After you get her proportions down, you can refine the linework. You will not get exact line placement so don't bother. You are just aiming for likeness, and likeness is in proportion. There are a ton of things you need to understand before you can do these steps though, like >>1665562 said.


Improbable sword and armor aside, How goes this sketch?

If you want to be able to draw that character from any angle, you don't need to think about the line placement. You need to break her down into shapes. These shapes are what you will attempt to place in various angles and poses. If I were doing what you were doing now, instead of comparing line to line, I would compare shape to shape. For example, If I were to pick up right where you left off, I would simplify her thigh into a shape next, and compare it to the other leg length, then sketch out that shape. After you get her proportions down, you can refine the linework. You will not get exact line placement so don't bother. You are just aiming for likeness, and likeness is in proportion. There are a ton of things you need to understand before you can do these steps though, like >>1665562 said.


Improbable sword and armor aside, How goes this sketch?

>>1665559
check your proportions. for example that tigh is way too long.
also instead of copying it directly, just try to wing it.
you'll probably learn more that way.

>My basic goal is to be able to draw the character in a bunch of scene's and poses
i don't think you'll be able to do that right now.
generally, go back to fundies.
gesture, contour and all that stuff.

>>1665559
You should do stuff like Vilppu and learn how to construct bodies first.
Kinucakes doesn't draw out of thin air like you're doing, she constructs her characters.
If you learn how to construct it, you'll be able to copy it easier.

>>1665567
is for >>1665559

>>1665567
>>1665568
thank you

>>1665567
That anatomy

here
original character is in link, I did NOT do this with reference though I just went for it direction, I originally did it on paper though

>>1665567
It goes pretty good , maybe the cranium is a bit big but i guess thats muh style and also the pose is kinda awkward but other than that good job!

>>1665575
god dammit accidently hit submit
http://nosgoth.net/Soul_Reaver/conceptart/index.html

>>1665577
I could only tell is was raziel from the fingers

>>1665574
>>1665573
It's certainly bigger than I was aiming for. Thanks for the feedback guys.

>>1665574
>everything is wrong
>but other than that good job!
don't say that.
don't pamper people like that. this is not deviantart.
it's not a good job at all and you even pointed out some mistakes.
let's try to be honest here.

>>1665586
That crit is better than anything you've posted, that's for sure. Go be a baby somewhere else.

>>1665588
>>>/out/
you don't even know what i posted.

also this is exactly how deviantart communities stagnate. everyone tells each other "it's fine!" when it's no good at all.
if it's no good, let the fucking artist know. that's real feedback.

there should be a name for people like you who apparently WANT this place to go down the shitter.
seriously, people like you make my head hurt.

>>1665591
No matter how bashful or pampering a critique on my work is, I accept it. However all you are doing is spitting turds and making yourself angry. The last thing I want a shitter like you doing is talking down to someone who legitimately tries to help people. You need to take your flaming elsewhere, unless you're ready to actually give constructive critique.

What is so hard with doing animeshit? This is pretty easy. I-Its totally n-not cute...

>>1665594
>No matter how bashful or pampering a critique on my work is, I accept it.
and then what? you don't care or wonder about how accurate that critique is?
is receiving critique the ony thing you faggots care about?
and fyi i gave several critiques itt.

i said one simple thing: don't say it's fine when it's nowhere near fine.
but apparently that is too fucking hard to take for the animu thread.

also, if you are >>1665567
i find it quite gutsy for you to talk about
>drawing characters from any angle
>utilizing shapes
>likeness
>fundamentals
when you obviously suck at all of those.

>>1665601
doesn't all of /ic/ act this way?
Talking about things they themselves can't do but then say you don't need to be a cook blabla...

>>1665552
legs should cave in a tiny bit more on that bottom pic

>>1665601
There is truth to be found in all critique. I believe. It is not all white and black. The benefit of critique relies on the receiver, not the giver. Anyway, I'm done feeding you, child.

More images/less words

>>1665603
no no no
you don't neeed to be a cook to understand terrible food.
but you do need to be one to break down the issues surrounding it.
otherwise you would just feeding people second hand information that you received, which may or may not be grounded in reality.

>>1665608
>There is truth to be found in all critique.
yes, and if you read >>1665574
he mentioned how the "pose is kinda awkward".
i'd go much further and say it's really really fucking bad. and that the problem is fundamental.
but hey! other than that, good job!

i think you and many others here are not nearly as good at taking critique as you think you are.

adventure time fan art, weeb style.

>>1665609
Finished sketch
Hows my 5minute kanji

>>1665631
that's not kanji you fucking baka gaijin nigger

>>1665631
>Implying that is kanji
It's hiragana, you pleb.

>>1665633
noobs cant tell the difference between the 3 systems kakakakaㅏㅁㅁㅁㅁㅁㅅㄱㄷ

>>1665648
please be trolling

This one is katakana :^)

>>1665586
>>1665614
Not everything is wrong he got the proportion right and yes the pose is awkward and it can be solved with gesture. Come on i know this is not dA lol

Take 2, hopefully it's better. and sorry again

>>1665694
Flat looking
Arms don't look like they're bending in space
Hands look rigid
Waist doesn't seem round or have thickness
It all looks flat, flat, flat

Good work, keep trying

Posting for the lulz. Heavily referenced but oh well

>>1665694
you're always drawing the deltoid as if it were a ball

Ughu~ Kawaiinime ^-^

>>1665694
Neck seems too thick for a female...

>>1665734
looks promising.

>>1665694
The overlap of the forearm in her right arm ahould be like the one on her left arm
Nobody puts their hands in the pocket like that
And the head just doesnt fit the body

>>1664849
Couldn't figure out how to fix the neck. wip

ive been drawing for one month, this place inspired me to pick up a pencil haha

>>1665554
>>1665556
>>1665557
Thanks, guys. Sorry, no website yet.

>>1665605
Thanks for the tip.

>>1665768
Stop polishing it and don't pretend you even tried fixing the neck.

>>1665776
>>1665734
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7sR8GLVNHA

>>1665768
You gave up on the fckin bird too? I'm sorry I'm going to have to agree with >>1665785. You haven't listened to any critique you've been given. I can't even pretend like you're doing a good job.

>>1665789
haha.. for reals huh .. this music makes me wanna roll a big ass dooby

>>1665792
There was only 1 and that was regarding the neck.

>>1665795
Is >>1663574 not you? If not sorry, but if it is you've gotten plenty more crit than that.

>>1665768
obviously the neck was off
the torso was too large
her left foot was awful
her right arm is longer than the other
and what does she wanna grab?

hello everyone how are you ?

iam not sure but there are problem with my head maybe it in red zone i paint

anyway it this looking good ?

there is not even one decent drawing in here.
the only good ones are images of someone else
and theres this one picture of a guy who copy everything from reference.

disgusting thread.

mostly just referencing some guy who redlines on futaba-chan

>>1665858

hey thatlook nice can you give me the ref

>>1665859
I used a bunch of his sketches as a reference, but he posts in almost every thread, so it's easy to find his stuff.

http://zip.2chan.net/11/futaba.htm
http://zip.2chan.net/14/futaba.htm

Picture related.

Do you guys like pretty ladies?

about to line art this
does the composition seem too simple and is the anatomy ok?
its supposed to be a girl in a school in space looking at earth

>>1665903
composition is nice
the head looks nice too
but everything else is utter shit

>>1665911
can you redline for me?

>>1665914
Seriously?

It's like you didn't even try with the body. Just look at the legs goddamn. Did you want a redline so you could trace off of?

These threads were at least funny to read with all the shit posting, now they're pathetic.

>>1665903
rough line art
>>1665916
no, i wanted a redline so i can see what i need to fix exactlt

I really regret having not studied facial structure more, since I always had those flat animoot faces to do without too much consideration.
Nose and mouth are placeholders for me to adjust, I'll repaint the whole thing when i'm done.

I've never done anything remotely like this before, but no matter how bad it looks now, it was still worse before, and even worse before. By this logic, it'll eventually look good.
>right? ;_;

Face is incredibly WIP. Nose and mouth are placeholders for me to adjust, I'll repaint the whole thing when i'm done.
I'll take any tips I can get.

>>1666027
>27 layers
ON WHAT?

>>1664849
help

>>1666029
Sketches + concept art + background colors aren't visible right now, but they're there. About 10 of those, 10 for her and the suit, and the other 7 probably what I've been using to mess around with the skin.

>>1666027
I like it. Nose and mouth need adjustment, as you said, but the overall pose is pretty good and I like the hair. I think the nose and mouth might be angled differently than the rest of the face, which might be the problem.

This is just a thing that I like to do, and you might be different, but try to switch what parts of the picture you're working on from time to time.

It's easy to get tunnel vision when you're slaving away at a single part, but if you work a bit on the eyes, switch to the arms, render the thighs a bit, and then when you go back to the eyes you might see problems you didn't see before.

Just an idea! I'd love to see the finished result!

>>1664893
do you upload your stuff somewhere? i want to know for scientific purposes

>>1665950
update
What should I do for the inside of the ship?
It looks too plain

>>1666039
it's too dark, maybe have light coming in from the window and making her stand out more

>>1666030
values bro

>>1666044
i hear that word a lot but i don't even know what those are

>>1666045
google it stylefag

>>1666032
Yeah, I knew something was off, but I really couldn't tell what, so I've just been messing with angles and placement. Thanks for the advice! I'll try it out.

>>1666042
Thank you for the advice
is this bright enough, or should i make the light source more apparent?

Finally had more time to work on this! Somewhat finished with the body now, I added a little more tail but honestly I like where it's at, and really think he'll look to lanky/older if I elongate it anymore.

>>1666052
nice, I like it.

can I have your tumblr?

>>1664849
Obliterate his ass. C'mon guys, I know you wanna!

>>1666076
lel ghey :^)

>>1666076
Butt looks a bit strange, think the cheeks should be a bit more together, maybe?

But I like it, really wanna see the final result!

>>1666078
I'm not ghey, I just like it when my girlies surprise me
>>1666080
>butt looks a bit strange
Yeah I spot it now, I also have to work a bit with that bulge and not sure if having the legs bent so that we can see a bit of the knee or something.

>>1666084
what a ghey :^)

>>1666078
>He doesn't enjoy boypussy and girldick
What a queer.

>>1666076
If he's a boy why does he have titteis?

>>1666086
when did i say that

>>1666087
I think it's the cups from the bunny suit.
You still on that kick, dan?

>>1666058
tarusu.tumblr.com

Here you go, anon.

I think this is as far as I'll go with this, on to the next one.

>>1666087
This, I hope those are padded training bra.

>>1666084
Maybe consider having him holding his own legs? Pic related is the best I could find on short notice.

>>1666091
>>1666087

Is a bra, is falling off. Maybe it was padded >>1666093 , why not. I'm going to print the blue "pencil sketch" and refine and ink traditionally, I feel a bit more comfortable that way.

>tfw you just want to paint/draw the entire day away while listening to music but you have to study cuz ur a begginer and you get distracted by music when you study

>>1666092
>16

Fucking christ.

>>1666098
Are you really surprised? It shows in the art skill.

>>1666097
Wow anon even to a sketch this is too much chicken scratch

>>1666097
You are making too many useless lines.

>>1666096
Iktfb

>>1666096
>and you get distracted by music when you study
Do you even multitask?

>>1666098
Lies.

>>1666101
Sorry, I'll work on it.

>>1666097
I just shrunk the head/arms a bit and redrew the bulge area, but take this with a grain of salt because this is just how I would draw it/someone else could do it a lot better

>>1666119
pretty sure he/she meant 16 was for this one >>1666092

>>1666120
Yes...? Am I being stupid and missing something?

>>1666118
it's hard to really absorb what you're reading and really understand it when you're blasting music, or maybe I'm just retarded.

>>1666128
You're not in the right mindset to study and you're not sure why where or what you're studying.

The first time I read one of these artbooks by vilppu, loomis or hampton it just all whizzed past me and meant almost nothing. Now I go back to them all the time to pick up specific lessons after drawing and seeing where I fall short. I'll continue to use them as my resources till it's all built in. Of course I didn't just force myself to grind meaninglessly like draw boxes of anatomy when I didn't even know if what I learned actually helped me in "real" drawing.

tl;dr: Just draw what you want. When you figure out "shit I can't seem to draw this" or "this doesn't look right" just look up what to do in those books. They suddenly make more sense.

>>1666128
What kind of music?

The modern garbage ones? no shit

>>1666126
nah my bad, forget about it.

>>1664898
>>1664929
>>1665311
>>1665850
>>1666101

Damn, has /ic/ always been so catty?

>>1666140
Gotta ramp it up for these threads, to keep everyone on their toes.

>>1666140
Just anime threads.

>>1664849
I don't fucking get it.
Someone redline the faces to see what I did wrong.
If the pic is flipped, i am sorry.

>>1665182
>being NEET is exactly what helped me to draw more often to be better and now i work as freelance artist.
My god, there 'is hope.

>>1665762
Thanks but youd be disappointed then, because thats as far as it goes. I cant into color

Heres more sketch for the thread. Paper is blue because camera is weird

>>1666294
I don't see the size relation of the sheet to the drawings, but from what I gather, you're making art for ants.

Do bigger drawings and use more your shoulder/elbow to draw instead of your fingers/wrist.

Since I got into art, I can't fap to drawn porn anymore. Upon encountering good drawn porn, it has become instinctual for me to either study the artist techniques, or whine about how I will never be as good as that artist. I also hate it when I find some fap material then someone points out some bad anatomy then it ruins it for me.

Fuck you /ic/.

>>1666321
congratulations, you're autistic. that's something no one can teach you

>>1666321
tfw i can still fap to horrible porn

Messy concept art wip.

>>1666326
Artfags like you exist?
Please kill yourself.

>>1666328
negro PLEASE

>>1666321
Porn is still porn unless you're autistic.

>>1666330
Bad art is still bad art.

>>1666329
I'm not a nigger, fag.

>>1666321
>or whine about how I will never be as good as that artist

Stop whining, grab your fucking nuts and draw, bitch.

>>1666296
I guess they were pretty small. Just feels weird drawing big with a thin medium. Its like drawing on a 5000x5000 pixel canvas with a hard brush set to 1.

I tend to lose proportions when drawing big, but I sorta managed in this one. Its on an A4 page.

>>1666335
Teach me how to draw senpai

>>1666331
You use porn to get off, not for study
You twat

>>1666343

How can one fap to hentai?

>>1666345

i am learning to learn skullgirl style but with more logical anatomy, how do i do?

>>1666345
someone post the scene from that one anime where a guy explains exactly that to a chick. the video is on youtube but i have no idea what the name of the anime is.

>>1666356
Although your anatomy is more "logical" as you say, it's not nearly as accurate or correct looking. They manage to get away with exaggerated anatomy because they understand it. Just practice a bit more with form building.

>>1666356
how is this more logical?
and why is she cross legged and cross eyed?

I cant get the underbite to look right

>>1666356
Does more logical anatomy come with a mentally challenged face?

>>1664965
I see you've been looking at the Pixiv daily rankings

>>1666051
right leg looks fucked
I think it's broken

>>1665694
Doesn't look female

>>1666388
My dick doesnt care

Used a reference for this.

>>1666389
nobody cares about your dick either

>>1666345
I just go to hentaigasm and spank my monkey.
Sometimes I look at pics.
Sometimes.

>>1666373
Look and draw real skulls.
Ya have to go all HAM on it, just see wat it do.

gyus gyus
do you know where i can drawn the request of hentai
i remenber a thread ,not on /ic/ , everybody make their petitions

please i want to drawn their petitions
just to increase my skills
thank you

>>1666441
in /i/

>>1666405
This.

marvel here i come

>>1666051
had a shot at the legs

>>1666472
That is one well rendered butt.

tried to redo a Jim Lee sketch, looks meh, time to start something else.

you really lost a lot of what made the image badass,

>>1666480
to elaborate on this guy's reply:

the expression, the particles in the air, the way his hair looks, the bullet holes in the background, the size of the goggles. it just generally looks more serious.

>>1666481
Now that you say it I can't unsee how shitty and dull the whole thing next to the other one because of those details but I don't want to spend more time on this thing, thanks for the input though

>>1666534
your drawing is quite good anyway from a technical standpoint.

>>1666368
She's retarded.

>>1666463
please tell me you will be drawing more marvel heroines in the future

>>1666294
BDMANGO here (you might know me as either Jewbrow anon or dan)

Mind if I work over it and color it/use it as reference? What is that hand doing anyways? Tossing a dildo at her?

>>1666583
No. Finish the trap.

>>1666592
I'm on my way, I just went to buy ink I ran out of it yesterday.

>>1666472

needs background and color comp, light source(s) don't seem so solid

>>1666476
I actually prefer your sketch

>>1666605
that's not his sketch, you moron!

Can some help me ? i can get the nose on the girl right maybe he need to get up a little bit

>>1666654
>HEY JACK

>>1666654
You're indenting the nose too far into the face. Make the bridge "stick out" more, and it'll look more natural

>>1666660
>>puts his kawai shield

I'M FUCKING ADORABLE

>>1666662
thanks bro
you found nothing wrong with the faces ?
the raiden and sundower one
not the one i uploaded

>>1666675
>>1666654
>no monsoon

>>1666675
I don't know who raiden or sundower are, or which drawings you're specifically referring to. In my first post I thought you were asking for help with the nose on the figure on the left, as that was the one that looked the wonkiest to me.

>>1666675
Your drawings are flat as hell.

>>1666688
i wanted help fo the of the girl with the microphone the only one with hand

>>1666689

i know but i can get right on that thing

besides you talking about with ones

the red the blues or the green
and the nose are not long enough on those one

>>1666692
They're all flat.

>>1666711
shit

i was thinking i getting better

i think he comes from blue line a draw

>>1666717
You're thinking of contours, not shapes.

Build the head from 3d objects floating in space that somehow joined together to form the vague shape of a head.

>>1666654
not sure if this is what you went for

>>1666720
so insted to see a face i should see a ball with some boxes right?(like my image )

>>1666726
not the same angle but your angle look more appealing
thanks you

>>1666742
You're doing unnecessary things. Didn't you read hampton?

How long does it normally take for a person to get used to a tablet? It's been a week now and I still can't draw a proper curve without cocking it up and making it look like rubbish

>>1666749
Less wrist more arm.

>>1666749
Oh and proper drivers, tablets act like shit with improperly installed, incorrect or poorly configured drivers.

>>1666747
>Didn't you read hampton

only read loomis

but i will look into it thanks artnon

>>1666592
>trap
>>1666594
I feel either one forearm is too long or the other too short.

>>1666759
There's that mouth again.

>>1666759
eyes are unfocused

>>1666752
Is it really that easy?

>>1666845
Yeah it is, bitch. Keep at it and quit complaining, bitch.

>>1666759
well, yeah... I think is going okay.

>>1666845
No it's just practice. Took me 2 months for me to get used to mine.

>>1666850
My, that's some nice coloring.

>>1666862
Thank you.

Hey guys, any advice on rendering clothes? I feel like the skin and hair and stockings look okay but I don't feel too secure about rendering those panties and bra, I don't want it to end up looking like satin or such, just plain and simple girl underwear.

>>1666335
Even bigger, the thinner the lines the better, at least for now, having more negative space let's you see your mistakes better.
Also, try to focus more on gesture and structure rather than the details of the anatomy.

Remember what Broko says, detail is nothing without the gesture (and proper structure).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

This is quickly turning into my least favorite, and I don't know whether the tail would be better curling in behind the body or in front of it.

>>1666927
I really like how this is turning out! But what are the things in the bra supposed to be? Inserts?

>>1666956
padding. I've seen stuff that looks like that in person (in a store)

>>1666956
I'd have the tail in front with him slightly holding the tip of it.

>>1666956
curled back behind him.

I love how your sketches are garbage but the finished product looks amazing.

>>1664849
>>1666983
>>1666983
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