/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1659574
I hope anon is okay with the OP pic.

>>1659574
>>1659552
>>1659563
Redline my own stuff.

Do you think the right guy's head look bigger than the middle guy?
Last time I posted this /ic/ didn't give any opinion.

>>1659574

man you mango dandys go through your threads quickly. and here i was thinking most of /ic/ is all about realism.

opressed minority my ass.

>>1659593

wasn't always like this

I learned human anatomy, can I draw manga now?

>>1659625
needs some blush

>>1659589

I think those poor guys need some hands

>>1659632
Drawing them right now. I'm just asking about the head size.

>>1659628
here anon i revised it

Could I get some feedback on this before I move on?
Thanks!

>>1659636
Here's another one of my works, im looking to make a webcomic someday

>>1659646
10/10

>>1659637
Tuck her face behind her shoulder some. Kinda looks like you pasted a traced head onto a traced body.

>>1659593
Most of the thread is spent talking.

>>1659650
Will do.

>>1659636

That'ss umm... whats his faces look god damn whats that guys name he does starbarians Harry Patridge that's it.

>>1659635
I want to see those hands I don't believe your ass /encouragement

some faces and things and stuff. any critique?

>>1659646
last example of my works, any advice will be appreciated

>>1659672

stop bullying minorities anon

>chuckledhard/10

progress from last thread. i think i fixed the "broke ass vagina" as one gentleman pointed out. ready to color i think.

>>1659715
Her head looks way too fuckin big, and it also looks weird because it seems like she's got it on a flat surface, yet her arms look like they are going even further back because of how short they are

>>1659715
Neck too long or the head needs to be tilted back more
Shoulders need to be defined more, and need to raise up more
Elbows bulge out too much
Breast hang oddly, aren't rounded well enough or defined well enough
Belly button to high
Hips crooked
Foreshortening on her right leg is poor.
Knees bulge out too much
Foot not defined well enough
Big toe too small
The chains look flat, like they're not going around each other.

Other than that good job.

>>1659723
if this isn't a genius parody of typical /ic/ critique, then I don't know what to say

>>1659576
It's fine. Would've appreciated being asked.

>>1659589
Looks a little bigger. Right character doesn't look like a guy. I like the colours.

>>1659668

kinda failed foreshortening on the bottom guy's arm but other than that it's ok

>>1659729

Some sexy stuff going on here.

I want the fujoshi audience.

>>1659637
hunch back of honnouji academy

>>1659723

>other than that good job

idk man it sounds like i fucked up a lot apparently!

thanks though, most of it was without reference..

>>1659733
>Would've appreciated being asked

>>1659715
way too rigid

>>1659785
i like it.nose is a little flat. needs a tiny bit more room between the eyes and the brows i think.

>>1659952
need to work on those hands, don't segment out the figures like that, simplify them all into one thing, like a mitten i guess. then break that shape down into fingers.

>>1659939
At least then I could've chosen not such a god awful font and OP could have used the finished version.
Also
>being posterboy for the animu thread

>>1659733
I remember a couple of threads ago OP asked you if you would be alright with them using your image but you never replied.

How do I make this look more anime?

How do I make this look more anime?

pls rate.
;_;

Are there any websites or books that explore how anime and cartoon differ from each other and how their lines are derived from standard anatomy?

>>1660000
Anime and Manga differ greatly in style and there might very well be anime/manga that use this kind of style but if you're going for a more conservative approach you could reduce the lines on the facial structures like lips, noses and eyelids. You could also use more snouty faces and pointy noses.

>>1660016
No. He didn't ask how to draw generic moe.

>>1660009
Face details don't match the perspective of the heads
breast pouch has odd perspective
breasts bulge out the coat unrealisticly
ear is off
study more clothes and creases

>>1659952
any other feedback? please

>>1659952
You seem to lack confidence in drawing faces. Do more faces and clean up your linework.

Just finished drawing this. Tiz from Bravely Default. Been working on my inking, lately. Sorry, couldn't properly scan it, so I just took a pic with my phone.

>>1660036
More

>>1660011

John K's blog goes hard in western animation theory and aesthetics but not so much animu

>>1660037
what you mean by clean up linework?

>>1660036

>>1660036
Proportions wise, you pretty much fucked up on everything.

Can someone link me a good Painttool Sai tutorial? So far I've only found ones made by awful weaboos.

>>1660048
Pretty much all of your lines say: maybe I'm here, maybe I'm not, maybe I'm important, maybe I'm just an indication. Some look indecisive and like chicken scratches. Draw fewer, continuous lines but make those lines define the whole structure.

Some shitty doodles, I love this binary tool

>>1659672 >>1659646
>>1659636

this is fucking hilarious. it been a while sinse someone trolled weaboos.
And the most hilarious part - even if these pictures are parodies, their anatomy and character design is way better than the actual chinese fanarts like this >>1659715 or this >>1660009

>>1659637
Oh my god, that is so cute. Just change her nose a little so it doesn't make her look older than she is. And maybe make the thighs a little thicker.

>>1659637

>>1660284
holy shit anon this looks creepy as hell man

>>1660055

>>1660317
those two poses are even more fucked than the one referred to

>>1660304

>>1660323
they are not ?

>>1660317
Hey thanks a lot for bluelining my redline!
I dont know why i didnt notice that long leg dammit

Blocked some colors in to figure out the lighting.

>>1660284
>mfw heterosexuals actually turned on by this

>>1660338
holy shit anon.

>>1660323
You need glasses!

Any comments or critique on this would be super helpful!

I think I managed to fix the crotch area pretty well, but now I just can't figure out how the bloody neck is supposed to look.

(The pink outline is supposed to be a big heart-shaped pillow which will obscure most of her upper torso, which is why I haven't bothered to draw her tits.)

Looking at it again, maybe it's just that her entire torso is a bit too long? If I shorten it and make her kinda snuggle her face into the pillow more, would it look better you think?

>>1660366
I aint no expert but heres how I would proceed.

>>1660385
actually its still wrong. Man i dont have time for this .

my is still not good tho

>>1660385
>>1660390
Wow, thank you very much for taking the time to do that! This is super helpful!

This is the first time I'm drawing a fully body pose like this, so I feel really lost! I was pretty happy with it, but it was obvious even to me that something was off. I figured it was just the neck, but I guess I exaggerated the head a bit too much which lead to other problems!

Again, thank you very much! I deeply appreciate it!

>>1660396
hey no problem.

Just remember that
- upper body is 4 heads long starting from top of the head.
-draw in a way that shows volume insted of contour.


just watch vilppu drawing manual and his anatomy lessons he will show you a lot. People say they are boring but if you are egor to learn they are not.

>>1660400
I actually started watching Vilppu the other day! I haven't gotten very far yet but I find him so very informative! It was because of watching him that I finally understood gestures and managed to put some life in mine!

It's like listening to your granddad talk or something - super boring if you'd rather play with your game boy or whatever, but you can learn many things if you only take the time to listen!

And I'll try to think about volume more, thank you for the advice!

This drawing business is very tricky, but super fun!

>>1660408
Hey do you have DA maybe ? I would like to see your progress.

>>1660414
Unfortunately I do not, sorry to disappoint, I haven't been drawing for very long so I haven't bothered to make one since I didn't think anyone would be interested!

I also draw mostly with pens and paper, and unfortunately I have no scanner so I can't show that to people on the internet!

I've been meaning to get better with my tablet, though, since it's a shame to have such a piece of technology and not use it to its fullest potential! But it's tricky because I can't draw with my shoulder and elbow in the same way, so my lines end up feeling all wrong which is frustrating.

>>1660428
yeah, you and I should get a larger tablet.

>>1659716
>>1659723
>>1659954
>>1660175

is this better? you were all correct my proportions were ass.

>>1660448
Way better, looks promising, anon

>>1660448
you can spelunk in that navel

am I drawing the torso/arm muscles for the dude and the girl with the full body right?
I know it's not much but I want a bit of feedback.

>>1660448
Now the clavicle and slope from the neck looks wrong. Go to a mirror strike the pose and vogue and look.
Braces and links look flat, they don't look like they are going around the limbs or other links.
You still have the old problems with the neck, hips, knees, and foreshortening and the belly button.
Did you forget about the big toe?

But good job so far, keep it up.

>>1660449

thanks!

>>1660470

thanks?

>>1660502

the hips are crooked because im trying to make her look like she's squirming. i moved the navel down a little bit. i checked photographs and im having trouble seeing what you mean about that. do you think you could redline the foreshortened leg if possible?
thank you for tearing it apart it was a huge help.

>>1660497
You might want to take a look at the sticky m8

>>1660511
Post the reference(s) you're using. I could be looking at this wrong; to me the left side needs to come up more. The blue dot is where I think the belly button should go, if I'm seeing this right.

>>1660512
but I can't tell whether I've done shit right, even when I compare it to other well-drawn pictures.

>>1660284
>maco

>>1660323
welcome to /ic/

>>1660554
asshole

>>1660564
yeah i felt dirty drawing it

>>1660565
no, you forgot the asshole

>>1660565
No, I mean where's the asshole? The asshole is missing. I don't see the asshole. If the vag is that high and the crack right there, then I should see an asshole. Where's the asshole?

>>1660536
This is so bad it's not even wrong. Stop helping.

>>1660572

oh man. oh shit.

>>1660564
>>1660571
>>1660572

Anus. The correct term is Anus, you ignoranuses

>>1660577
asshole

>>1660578
>>1660577
>>1660576
>>1660572
>>1660571
>>1660565
>>1660564
>>1660554

azzwhole

>>1660580
my 12 year old self with mom's credit card in hand would

Would you pay 5 bucks to see this lady in hot animation film?

>>1660580
>paying for porn

How do I git gud at drawing anime eyes

>>1660605

draw them
over
and
over

>>1660580
Are you the fucking cunt who got frontpaged on dA because of this?
Holy shit, things like this makes me mad, the best thing is that you're not even humble:

"Wow what a difference 15 months makes. Some of you might remember my first ever post as SapphireFoxx."

You sicken me, your art is shit.

I'm stuck where my anatomy clearly hasn't improved even with lots of studies with gestures and figures. I try to put a lot of thinking into what's going incorrectly. What else can I do?

>>1660536
>>1660574

final one before color. im pretty much happy the way it is now, i have been looking at this chick's body for 3 nights and i need to move on.

Turned everything into an overblended mass and working on refining it from there. This is as far as I'm getting tonight, I think.

>>1660639
dropped pic

>>1660554
not sure if picture is okay to post here because semi nsfw
but you are suffering from belly-vag syndrome
refer to the following

>>1660580
you should talk to Dannimon with art like that

>>1660642
>okay to post here
>semi-sfw
>4chan

>>1660649
some places on here are anal about that so i wasnt sure
fuck

>>1660651
Red background=nsfw
Blue=sfw

>>1660662
gotcha

>>1660667
Can you post more tutorials, anon? These are very helpful.

>>1660671
sure i have a couple
ironically these are done by a hentai artist. Sadly i cant remember her name but it's out there

>>1660678

>>1660680

>>1660682

>>1660684

>>1660685

>>1660688
the rest are all super anatomy-textbook drawings and not tutorials so i dont think ill post those unless people show interest

>>1660691
Thanks alot!

>>1660691
Thanks for sharing them, anon.
They're a useful, quick and simple guide.

>>1660312
fuck, is this yours? tell us your secrets.

>>1660695
>>1660696
happy to help anons

>>1660698
Practice.

>>1660755
Can you show us some of your drawings when you was a noob? I need hope!

>>1660019
>how do i make this look more anime

I'm not your buddy, but, "more anime" sounds pretty generic to me

>>1660702
This is what the rest of the board thinks of you.

>>1660800
仕方がない

>>1660691
>happily posts all the crappy ones about muh dicks and ass
>not sure wether to post the proper anatomical ones.
this is what the animu thread has done.
/ic/, what have you become...
i bet more than half ou you are women.

>>1660804
>i bet more than half ou you are women.
Where did this come from

>>1660804
I assume we already have a billion resources of anatomy textbook drawings (/ic/ first, animu general second). That anon was just posting cheat sheets for easy reference.

>>1660800
nice bait

>>1660804
This is the garbage bin where we keep the broken toys

>>1660816
Right,
except the garbage bin is moldy and infecting the whole room.
We should stop doing these threads. They bring the worst people into /ic/, especially the faggots from /a/.

>>1660820
I'm not saying I like it or think it should be here

These threads are counter productive to learning how to draw, that is the bottom line and why they should be stopped.

Casuals can go to the other boards if they want to fuck around.

>>1660824
I agree that some people here want /i/ rather than /ic/ but these threads aren't all bad

>>1660824
Agreed. Maybe we can e-mail moot to ban anime from this board. If only /q/ still existed.

>>1660827
it's just that these threads keep getting worse.
i wonder how bad they can get. maybe we should stop before that.
moving to /i/ would be a great idea

>>1660824
/ic/ isn't actually the 'learn to draw' board. it's the critique and discuss art board. people give crits in these threads and they discuss art.

if you don't like it go hang out with the other nazis at ARC.

>>1660836
Most people here post their shitty doodles and /i/ is the doodle board.

>>1660836
You're either new; trolling; an idiot or an amalgam of the aforementioned

>>1660836
Is this bait?

>>1660849
only for idiots.

Hopefully the mods or janitors come around to clean up the shitposting.

>>1660611
Well, i'm not him but.
> go to his profile
> 1,5 kk views
> only one year
> have site with pay2watch
> hire artist
I'm just want to know, is my taste going high level or it's just western porn art in so poor state that people can eat that shit for money.

>>1660942
In the west, porn is considered samfull or something that you do because you cant do any better, we have at least a one how to hide my
porn gallery from my normal gallery thread a month. In japan however people dedicate their art careers or even some of them go to art schools
to draw lolis for a living, and that's why porn in the west sucks so much, no proper porn industry, monthly comic porn magazines etc and no competition
all through the stack has been rising the past years.

>>1660353
>cute but that arm and shoulders looks too stiff. and the armpit too low which is nitpicking but it really detracts the pic.

>>1660353
cute but that arm and shoulders looks too stiff and the armpit looks too low which is nitpicking but it really detracts the pic.

>>1660944
in japan they dont have as much women as men because people used to get an abortion when they gave birth to a female. it's pretty much a fact that not every japanese man will be lucky enough to have a gf. that's also why sex dolls for men sell pretty well there.

>>1660956
You are wrong, they just don't want to have sex, In japan the interest in real sex is dropping all the time in scary statistics, and the porn industry is rising, it's just that they realise the superiority of 2D.

>>1660956
they have too many women in japan.

http://huntergatherer.com/rise-of-the-22grass-eaters222c-fall-of-japan/

>>1660956
Child, you confuse China with Japan.

>>1660960
oops. china is the country with the 1 child policy?
then yes i did confuse them.

>>1660944
It's shameful to not have good porn-art industry.

>>1660969
It sure is, but not all is lost. The amount of otakus and 3dpd culture is rising in the west too, pick up your loomis and get ready.

I fucking hate the japs, but I know that I'll eventually have to learn from them in order to start creating my own "style"....
This is frustrating. I want to improve but my pride doesn't allow me to do that.

Help please!?

>>1660988
>>1660980
Is this what they call shotgun bait?

>>1660988
there's western cartoon style? not every style is instant anime anon.

Any advice on this construction before I clean it up?

>>1660993

But cartoon style sucks donkey ass...

>>1660755
fuck you too!

>>1660988
Man just draw. If you like anime-esque styles, the better you get, the more likely your drawings will gravitate towards it. People who are over concerned about their style developing are mostly those who aren't studying fundamentals. If you were, you'd realize that you slowly but surely gain more dominance over your desired look.

>>1661003
I hate japs and I hate the fact that japs created my favorite cartoon style...
How can I stop thinking like this?

>>1661015
Growing up and stop being a retard seems to be the only option you have.

>>1661021
Weeb detected.

>>1660998
too many mistakes to write them down

>>1661023
Well, looks like growing up and stop being a retard is not a possibility for you. I guess your next option would be to leave this thread and stop annoying people with shit that is not art related. No one cares that you hate "japs". Maybe you can ask /pol/ for advice or something, I dunno.

What does /ic/ think of this pic?

Can I use this as reference?

>>1661030
So you decided to condense all those mistakes into one big mistake? You had to make her smaller cause you didn't know how to work with the size given, was that it? You're not correcting the proportions, you're putting your spin on it.

>>1661030
no offense but you really didn't change much aside from the proportion which is not wrong in the first place. the lats line is a good change though.

>>1660998
it's fine, you just have to start polishing the anatomy and it's form.

>>1661035
I fap to his works hard, that's all I can say.

>>1661034
We should really start to at least post screenshots of what we're drawing, if you really want to continue these pointless arguments at the very least post a work in progress or something I know how /ic/ loves to argue over anything but please at least post a drawing you made while arguing.

>>1661037
>>1661040

Her upper body is smaller than her fucking legs.
Shut up if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>1661037
What mistake? Make her smaller? I made the body starting with the head the anon drew
>>1661035
The clothes on her boobs seems painted on her skin
>>1661040
None taken . and the main problem was the lower half

>>1661042
Doesn't mean that its good

>>1661045
>The clothes on her boobs seems painted on her skin

It's from a hentai.

>>1661035
Why the fuck would you use a shitty stylized drawing as a reference?

>>1660998
upper leg in the back looks a tad too short, as does the lower leg. Position the knee a bit further outwards.

>>1661047
What are you implying? Was the "plot" about bodypainting?

>>1660814
this isn't really a bait
It was a post to just let you guys know.

>>1661097
Just want to let you know, you draw even worse the those guys.

>>1661049
>Shitty

I see nothing wrong with the anatomy.

>>1661030
Thanks for the attempt.

>>1661040
>>1661051
Thanks, the feedback is much appreciated. I'll do my best.

>>1661045
>I made the body starting with the head the anon drew

Nah, you drew without considering what the hair was hiding, you didn't take into account if the head size was deliberate (In animu, the head is usually made bigger) After all this a MUH STYLE drawing we're dealing with.

So instead you chose to draw your design, your style, your form of exaggeration. You're basically said, "Draw like me."

You're not really helping. Just stop already.

>>1661044
>Her upper body is smaller than her fucking legs.

It's a stylized drawing. Why can't she have long legs? Perhaps it adds to the appeal. Does everything have to be realistically proportioned with you? If so, I think you're in the wrong thread.

>can i get sum kritikk on muh darweng
it's wrong here here and here
>BUT ITS MUH STYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I JUS WANNID PRAISE

abolish stylization threads

>>1661140
realism is a style

>>1661140
>abolish stylization threads
I don't see any MUH STYLE post.

>>1661140
Just hide the threads

>>1661140

As a long time lurker and OP of the first few threads I can't help but agree. Yes we were drawing anime stuff but we were trying to have a presence of mind about it. We cared about what we were doing.

Every time Teal would post a redline I'd read every word and stuff would start to click and make sense. I was excited to then go watch some Scott Robertson or Michael Hampton lectures.

Now it's just a bunch of naivist babies from /a/ and /v/

We don't want to watch new artists struggle and suffer trying to draw shit they're not able to yet. We want to see people learn, improve and make content that they can be proud of.

That's why we tell them to open some Vilppu, Hampton or Loomis every once in a while or tell them to get their perspective power level higher.

No shit it's boring at first but the more you become familiar with the material the easier it is to visualize the concepts they teach and apply it to your art.

It's what we stress every time we see some poor fuck who just stumbled in here with middle-school tier art asking for asspats.

Above all else, think about what you're doing. Care more. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Think about your long term goals. Don't be a pussy and tackle hard shit head-on like a freight train.

If you're dead new, just lurk. Learn.

Some stupid shit I'm working on, feel free to tear it apart.

>>1661182
Bodies are bumpy for no reason

Learn fat and muscle placement

>>1661182
The perspective of the green haired girl's eyes is pretty off.

>>1661185
>>1661192

Alright, noted. Now that you mention it, I do make bodies kinda bumpy for some reason, next time I'll make sure to smooth them out.

>>1661182
those unsure line strokes. Why is this so common in animu community?

>>1661035

Proportions are a bit off, the head way to big for the body, scrawny arms and tiny hands in relation to the overtly large head. Also the lower torso and legs are in question because if she's not wearing some sort of skirt, I'd seriously question what the heck is actually going on down there.

If you're starting out, better to study and reference naked forms, and then understand how clothes fit and fall on them.

>>1661202
bumpy can be good, you just gotta know where to put the bumpy.

>>1661172
Stfu weeb, you're hypocrite. You just want the satisfaction of others stroking your ego by mimicing your style. You want everybody to follow in the same exact footsteps and draw everything like you. You parrot the shit you like and critize others for not trying to look like it. It's hypocritical to say these threads are about learning and then go into a spew that dictates the process and destroys any possiblilty of developing a personal vision. You're not the teacher here.

Do you know why so many don't get gud? Because some selfish brats only have one way at looking at things and take it upon themselves to drown any critical reflection. There others ways to learn this crap, and some have equal or better potential. Stop trying to use these threads to shove your aganda down other peoples throats.

>>1661205
>animu
>typical western style
Are you even trying.

>>1661235
It's very anime influenced western style and thus falls in the same category. Just like teen titans and avatar is "anime style" and not western.

>>1661235
You know, I kinda want to stay away from the animu style as much as possible but I wouldn't call my 'style' western, I'm leaning more towards the animu shit unfortunately.

>>1661241
>anime influenced
No, it's not. Big eyes != anime.

>>1661251
The fucking guy himself admits to it. >>1661246


Quit being a nitpicking homo.

>>1661254
Well, now you should tell what's animu about this piece.

>>1661254
Can you tell if the drawing was made by a western artist? if you can it's not animu.

90s anime effect.

How can I do it?

>>1661259
Mainly hair, face shape and last, eyes. The rest is too shitty to distinguish any style other than bad style.

>>1661263
It's just another shitty westerner trying to emulate anime style and doing it poorly.

Poorly done anime != western

>>1661264
By studying 90s anime effect. Find an Artist who has their fundamentals down from the 90s and like a master study, use their works as reference.

Do you faggots realize Anime (アニメ) simply means cartoon?

>>1661267
>The rest is too shitty to distinguish any style other than bad style.

T-thanks

>>1661271
It doesn't though, it's sort for animation

>>1661271
Do you like being that guy? The semantics jew fuckhead who tries making a stupid point?

>>1661274
There's no such thing as "anime style" is the point so no need to make retarded hurr durr its not anime comments.

>>1661268
But most of them are shit.
I just want to learn how to simulate the old cell animation style. Not the anatomy or anything.

>>1661271
>>1661273
>>1661274
>>1661277

Guys, come on it feels like there's only a couple of us who are drawing while the rest are just picking for more arguments.

I can't believe I am saying this but take it to /a/ /jp/ this is getting off hand.

>>1661279
STUDY.

>>1661267
Yeah, those features are totally animu.

>>1661277
aye, theres manga style wchih everyone refers to as anime style.

>>1661282
Did you know manga just means comics?

>>1661288
xD

>>1661280
>STUDY

Study what?

Your proportions are fucking terrible BTW.

>>1661280
I am drawing, I just don't post, only lurk.

>>1661281
Do you see a fucking ahoge on her hair?

How can I stop being racist?

I literally can't appreciate an artwork that wasn't made by a white person.

>>1661280
I already posted my drawing in the previews thread miku, no need to post my half finished lineart every 10 lines,
posting blog like updates is not productive either.

>>1661293
Wtf is an ahogu?

>>1661295
Just keep pushing me man.

>>1661297
Pushing you where?

Why are your posts always so vague!?

>>1661280
I agree with you, mikufag. Actually, I've agreed a few posts before, but I can't really present anything that I've been drawing recently, because I'm studying "The Animators Survival Kit" right now, because I realized I can't animate for shit. Pic related, what I was working on a few days ago.

>>1661293
Here >>1661281 yes
Here >>1661182 no

>>1661172
>Now it's just a bunch of naivist babies from /a/ and /v/
not sure naivist is a word, but i feel the same way.

and it's not really the art that makes me feel this way, it's the general vibe of the thread and the posts in it that are changing.
it feels more and more like /a/. and that's terrible, since /a/ drawthreads are full of non artists.
now it's less
>i want to improve drawing together with /ic/
and instead it has become
>...let's critique each other <3 (>>1660836)
>...add horsecock pls >:3
..it's like looking at a bunch of faggots in playing in a flower field, talking about their favorite porn.
it doesn't feels like anyone cares about drawing themselves. they are more like "fans" than artists.
generally it feels a lot more weeb-ish.

>>1661216
>...others stroking your ego by mimicing your style
i think you are mistaking that anon for somebody else. (why do i feel like it's me..)

>>1661303
Am I being baited to death or are you the new breed of fucking stupid

>>1661301
how do you know that's mikufag?

>>1661307
Like i care.

>>1661294
Do you live in Africa?

>>1661311
not that guy but mikufag always has the same grey background and the same blue lines

>>1661281
>dat QUALITY on Ariel's eyes

I hope that's not from the motion picture.

>>1661280
You've been here for so long yet it's apparent you've learned nothing.

>>1661294
talk to a psychiatrist

>>1661314
Better than anime.

>>1661316
miku did improve.
just not in the fields that matter.

not enough drawing from imagination. you need to mix it up.
i'd say 40% studies and 60% drawing from imagination to get much, much more experience.
that's actually how a style is made. you need to slowly figure out how you WANT to draw things.

for example:
>>1661280
you had a basic idea for the head and upper body. but one can immediately see that you are lost on the arms. you don't know (=haven't decided) their length, width and shape. you have no experience in drawing it.
now is the time to study it from all sides and deceide how you want to tackle it next time.

getting a full understanding of all the major bodyparts is one of the most fundamental things you have to learn and you still can't do it.

>>1661294
Embrace it.

There's no point fighting feelings you ultimately can't suppress anyway.
It's like trying to turn gay men straight.

>>1661327
>but one can immediately see that you are lost on the arms.

Nailed it! That's very true, and thanks for the tip on studying the arms on all sides.

Also I used the lasso tool on the eyes and dropped them down a bit and looks so much better but I can not help but feel embarrassed as if I just cheated...does anyone else do that sort of stuff?

>>1661327
He is the perfect poster autist for these threads.

>>1661386
don't feel like you cheated. There was an error and you fixed it. if you erased it and redid it would you feel embarrassed? It's just like that but saving a lot of time.

>>1661386
"i'm a naive little flower, please help and pity me kawidiots"

>>1661133
>you chose to draw your design, your style, your form of exaggeration
style? i think i drew it pretty generic if im wrong then i would aprecciate if you could tell where is exagggerated
also the construction lines u drew doesnt really make sense but hey its animu muh style...
>>1661280
you are right not many drawings

>>1661386
that's fine. do absolutely everything you can to make it look like you want it to.

>studying the arms on all sides.
that can be applied to everything else. studying different angles can help you understand the subject better

>>1661403

>>1661415
Cute sweaty plant dude.

>>1661415
I know it's bad to like things here, but I think that photo is really cute.

>>1661422
>photo

>>1661422
It's a painting not a photo, fuckwit.

>>1661415

>>1661430
>Abloo bloo bloo.

>>1661415
These threads are the equivalent of putting the seed in a thimble of sand and putting it in a dark dry closet.

No growth possible.

>>1661430

CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIN, Chester pls.

>>1661440
Oh shit, drawing animu can turn a boot into a plant?

>>1661373
>>1661294
racism is a learned behavior , homosexuality isn't.

>seek therapy anon, or don't. I don't care.

>>1661312
>like I care lmao xP, you are all noobs who have no life! also i dont care cuz imma be the next disney animator! xD haha

>>1661264
Use less saturated colours and more "off" colours with black lines to dignify objects and hard cell shading

>>1661407
>if im wrong then i would aprecciate if you could tell where is exagggerated
You drew it smaller.

>>1661455
No, i'm just don't have arguments anymore.

>>1661415
My plant would never grow out of the seed.

>>1661470
nigga you just need to put some mircale grow on dat bitch and make some gmo style that mofo know what im sayin?

>>1661474
I want Monsanto to leave.

todays stuff.

Current progress! And I would like to yet again thank the kind anons who provided me with advice and critique!

I'm set to try to tackle the hands and feet tomorrow - body parts which I have never been very good with, but I have read a lot about them now and I've watched Vilppu so I'm optimistic!

I had a lot of fun drawing the face, though, and I think I managed to make it look like the character it's supposed to look like!

>>1661487
Got a blog?

>>1661487
>>1661506
This is bait

>>1661506
Your enthusiasm for your shit achievements is sickening. The face is terrible.

there's just something so incredibly desperate about poorly drawn pornography

>>1661582
Pssst, they're a bunch of fucking pedos anon

>>1661583
i don't mind pedos as long as they make good art.

>>1661582
How so?

>>1661585
Like the Etrian Odyssey artist? Oh baby.

>>1661585
Someday, I'll get there...but without all the lewd stuff.

>>1661304

I'm not sure either but I extrapolated it from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na%C3%AFve_art

>>1659574
how am I doing?

>>1661594
poorly

>>1661435

Then posit a solution instead of being a bitch

>>1661589
das hot

crit before I move in with the colors?

>>1661605

Get a better torso reference>

Muscles aren't symbolized, rounded off rectangles

>>1661594
No penis
Hair too long
Not fat
Feet missing
Chicken scratch

What the fuck are you doing?

>>1661607
so far just sketching, I wanna color it though and practice my line quality.

>>1661608
>practice my line quality

>>1661611
yeah.

adapting to tablet

>>1661606
I see what you mean, I tried to soften them up and add a little more shape, and I plan to blend them in a bit more once I paint over it. Is this any better or am I going in the wrong direction?

>>1661616
There's no thigh gap you symbol drawing faggot. Just because it's been drilled into your thick nigger skull that all cute anime girls must have that moe moe thigh gap doesn't mean it's always visibly present. It's a forgivable mistake if you were drawing from imagination but the pose was even taken from reference.

Fuck you

>>1661628
Theres no gap because he removed the penis and turned it into a girl.

>>1661608
more like fucking up.

still no penis
still no feet
still not fat
hair still too long
thin wrist
hands hidden for convenience
bicep not flexing
shitty contours on arms
weird contour on legs
pubic tunnel for no reason
still no penis
still not fat
hair still too long

>>1661616
May wanna vary up that line thickness, but it's lookin' pretty cute so far.

>>1661628
>not liking cute animu grills gap
>calling me faggot
Well, that's not very polite from you sir/madam

>>1661631
>hands hidden for convenience
>ref with hands hidden

>>1661628
Does that "thigh gap" really piss you off that much :3

>>1661634
Just gonna say thats not a very efficient method of lineworking you have there. In fact thats probably the main reason a lot of your stuff ends up looking stiff. You keep redoing over it, again and again. Each time loses the flow, if you know what I mean. I think that FDZ guy called it generation something.

Don't you do proper gestures for it instead of chicken scratch scribbles?

>>1661637
He's like one of those modern young comedian who came out and mad about vagina.

>>1661637
>>1661634
I don't dislike thigh gap but there's a time and place for everything.

Fucking cakeboys.

>>1661638
is just that most of what I do (figure drawing wise) is from reference, in most instances I do end up prefering how my sketches looks vs the finished linework. And yeah I heard that of loosing flow if you keep drawing on top of stuff.

>>1661638
I'm kind of worried about this with my own stuff.
How many passes do you recommend doing?

>>1661644

1

not counting the gesture

next crop of head drawings.

>>1661637
It's probably the stupid filipino that's in this thread right now, that's pissing him off.

>>1661646
Thanks. I'm at two, not counting the gesture, so I guess it's time I nut up.

>>1661440
>>1661430
fukken 10/10

>>1661647
One eye is always bigger than the other one.

>>1661638
Hey anon, any suggestions on how to improve line? I wanna be able to draw doujins soon.

>>1661619
different anon here, abs look fine but don't draw the bangs over the eye to avoid drawing the rest of the face, it'll cripple you in the future.

>>1661647

Sameface.

>>1661662
agreed... still learning

>>1661655
I'm only 3 months into learning to draw and I'm still shit but what I've been doing is:

Draw on a large canvas. I usually make mine 6000x6000 starting. For this size, I use a 8px brush, sometimes 9px.

Sai is what I use, but I don't use the stabilizer, unless it's a larger circle or curve (not hair but spheres, like glasses or such. Stabilizer tends to make shit stiff.

Long strokes, using your shoulder and elbow, not your wrist.

Clean up your lines. Sometimes when making a stroke it will overlap a little bit.

Practice a lot. Pick characters with retarded large complex hair to practice curves. What I've been trying with Nui here. Also I recommend drawing lineart of real people (still life and photos) to practice line weight. It's helping me out. And what that guy above said is true. at max for lineart (gesture + linework) is 2.

>>1659574
ok... I do use the whole arm.

>>1661619
have an opinionline

i'm not quite good enough for red yet

>>1659589
>>1660284
Share brush setting please.

>>1661656
It's in the character's design, not a personal choice, sorry for the confusion.
>>1661674
The expression/body type doesn't quite fit the character, but I did try to add a little more bulginess/curve to him like you did.

Also, slapped some color on to figure things out.

>>1659646
scathing wit

>>1661697
what's aoba doing

>>1661530
what is bait?

>>1661506
you wretched faggot.. how dare you enjoy this shit. it's supposed to be a miserable grueling process. kill yourself.

Any tips on reverse drawing an anime face? Like drawing it to make it look realistic instead of styalized?

>>1660612
get an anatomy book, like anatomy for the artist, or hamptons book, or bridgman's, and draw the illustrations. you'll get good.

>>1661216
>more than one way to learn.
>implying drilling fundamentals hard is somehow on equal footing with just drawing shit from imagination that you have no idea how to draw until it just somehow magically clicks one day.
>this is bait, 0/10 for being so obvious, 1/10 for making me respond

>>1661722
He's supposed to be passed out from the hot water, they're both going to have semi massive nosebleeds when I'm done as well.

Crit please?

General feedback would be great, especially on the lines

>>1661301

>The Animator's Survival Kit

Come on dude. Find something better to study off of. Start with life drawing.

>>1659574
>>1661989
>>1661989
NEW THREAD CAMARADAS
>>1661989
>>1661989

>>1661635
pick one:
a. copy the reference as if you were tracing and ignore the problem of you can't into hands
b. man the fuck up and draw hands well because it would probably make the drawing look better rather than look like it has mangled hands that were poorly copied.

(FYI: 9 out 10 weeaboos pick a.)

>>1661902
>making false implications
Who's the bait now?

>>1660554