/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>214 posts

The other one hasn't autosaged yet, you're going to entice all the d/ic/ks to complain and holler and hoot.

>>1638820
I thought it was already, I didn't see it in the catalog page when I was looking for it...

>>1638825
Please don't tell me you can't delete this one there's this thing going on where you can't delete posts if not oh well just make the best of it and keep saging the other one I guess.

>>1638827
>keep saging the other one
Let's do that for now

>>1638830
Heheh so you can't delete it huh okay well because you've shown such...enthusiasm to create this one I'll pass on the torch to you and you make them from now on just so we can keep things better organized.

>>1638825
newfaggot

>>1638834

So which thread is being used now, the old or new one?

>>1638875
the other one is still in use... let's wait till it sages itself for people to start posting in this one.

>>1638827
>keep saging
what the fuck does this mean

The only thing sage does is not bump the thread and make sure your post doesn't contribute to the over-all post count. So if your goal is to bring a thread closer to bump limit, sage isn't the way to go.

>>1639019
>what the fuck does this mean

That means we want this thread away from the front page as it is disruptive to have two Animu threads on the front page.

Don't forget to sage.

Bump-desu

>>1638818
Are we using this one now?

>>1640408
yes

what's the point of posting japanese sites when the majority here speaks english?

>>1640429
Because you learn from the images not from the language you fucktwat.

>>1640440
Wouldn't a fucktwat be the same as a regular twat?

>turtle fish paint

Hell yea, mother fucker

I always look (and masturbate) to his stuff and try to figure out how he gets his lines like that. Is there anyone else in terms of line-work that surpass him? Obviously a lot do in terms of coloring/rendering.

>>1640440
too bad you can't navigate the site because IT'S IN FUCKING JAPANESE, DIPSHIT

>>1640466
One's fucked and the other isn't.

>>1640499
You can use automatic translators, and if you are so devoted to your hobby as to adapt the drawing
style why wouldn't you learn your hobbies birth language? by the majority of visual novels manga and
light novels being untranslated i would think that it would be a good investment.

>>1640528
this has nothing to do with the original question anymore

>>1640488
>sucking Turtle.Fish.Paint dick
I had no idea T.F.P. visited this site

>>1640499

You don't take a class in classical literature, then complain about the books being in Latin, do you?

>>1640549
yea, its so uncool to like things

us 4channers are way cooler than those sort of nerds

>>1640552
>implaying turtle.fish.paint is samefagging
You must be autistic like to not get the joke

who the fuck is turtle fish paint

>>1640577
how is implying hes posting here a joke?

god damn this board is full of fucking retards

>>1640600
yer mouth is movin but yer brain aint catchin up. might want to attend to that

>>1640552
>>1640577
>>1640600
>>1640607

>>1640579
A Chinese dude that draws hentai and is pretty good at it. Thread pic and Pic related are his.

>>1640607
> Durr hurr I was being retarded!

Getting busy these days, something quick to practice my consistency

>>1640632
Wasn't he Taiwanese?

>>1640499
It's not that hard to click around or infer which link leads to where in the listed sites with a little google translate, you fucking ding dong.

>>1640654
>you fucking ding dong
I fucking love the insults here.

>>1640643
Don't know, I know he speaks Chinese, I guess he could be from Taiwan.

>>1640643

That's the real China, Red China will fall and the ROC will rise again!

>>1640673
/pol/ pls go

>>1640499
Are his arms broken? Which way are they going? I don't understand.

Hi guys i would like a cc

>>1640724
looks fine hips are a little off though

>>1640724
sword looks floppy like it might actually be a bokken shaped dildo

>>1638818
Okay so I'm going to start taking commissions in Tumblr... I want to make a few drawings this week to showcase them in the commission chart. You guys like the format, any suggestions?

>>1640789

Lose the stroke border around the header or at least get a better font

Colors are less horrible this time around, you're making progress.

>>1640803
Thanks. Another color scheme that might work? or making it lighter or something?

I haven't done digital art in a while...

I also started on mouse mode so it's kinda fuck

>>1640789
correct typos

>>1640882

>>1640789
>>1640803
Still not sure about color.

>>1640891
can you help me out please? I don't want to look like an idiot.

>>1640899
thanks i always fuck up the animu eyes

>>1640904
One of the typos is additional, as for it has two d's, but me personally am not seeing any other.
But, >>1640891
said typos so there may be more.

>>1640904
If you use those console big pixels fonts like fixedsys or terminal you should try to turn off anti-aliasing so they will look more clean, as they use to look in console. Because now 0 for example is just mess, and spacing between characters in some places is bad, you can adjust it manually.

>>1640904
jesus you charge way too much.

>>1640943
It all depends on how fast he is. If a fully clothed and colored drawing takes him
around 8 hours i think the prices are reasonable, and don't forget the time that he will be trying
to get the idea and interact with the customer. How much do your 8 hours of work worth?

>>1640943
imo the prices seem reasonable.

what do others charge for commisions like this?

>>1641024
*are

the overall quality just seems poor, doesnt matter how long it took

>>1641182
that's not for you to decide. one man's junk is another man's treasure (no homo).

>>1640943
You'll never be able to make a living off of this.

>>1640943
Not remotely too much. It's mindsets like that that make people charge 20 dollars for a full painting they spent 10 hours on. Who the fuck's gonna get by on two dollars an hour? An artist has to make it worth their time, first and foremost.

>>1641202
And now someone will come up and say the usual, i am a hobbyist and i don't really care how much i make.
The thing is that you are destroying the whole market by doing that. No person that respect himself would work
for someone else for 20 dollars a day. If his quality is not that good then it will not sell so good, but selling something
that will take him 8-10 hours to make for 20 dollars? That's absurd, he might as well just use the time to draw something
that he actually wants to draw.

>>1640904

On the chart color, you might get better answers from /gd/. Graphic design is their business.

On prices, there's no such thing as too much or too little, only what the market will bear. Here's a little secret. We currently live in an ass-backward world where people are willing to donate money to Kickstarter, or pay a few hundred bucks for a porn commission of the weirdest fetish, but they'll pirate a 5 dollar comic. Most artists would like to think that quality is the only thing that matters to a freelancer, but when you work directly for fans on the net, what you can charge depends on how you can appeal to your fans on a personal level. Don't convince people your artwork is worth that much. Convince them you could be their friend, and that they should want to give money to you.

>>1641204
What are you talking about? I'm condemning it. I KNOW it kills the industry, and I'm tired of seeing it. I've seen way too people who
charge 10~30 dollars when they should be charging triple or more.

>>1641204

No one is "destroying" the market.

If prices are pushed so low that many people are forced to abandon this as a career, then there will be less competition and prices will go up again. If you feel overseas artists have an unfair advantage because of exchange rates, then ask yourself if you're willing to pay twice as much for your computers and tablets when they are not made in Asia.

The only way to be above all that is to be truly good. Good on a rarefied level. So good that the level you can put out cannot be matched by the hobbyist doing $20 commissions. This is your own problem, not anyone else.

>>1640734
>>1640735
Thx for the feedback
Also im gonna start doing commissions pretty much like>>1640789 except for the paint one since im still learning (pic related)
Btw i like this one way more

>>1641210
>If prices are pushed so low that many people are forced to abandon this as a career
That's why i am telling him that his prices are ok, and that he shouldn't lower them more,
So that we don't have to reach that point. I am also a hobbyist, and i am willing to draw for others
for some extra money, but if we get to the point where 20 dollars for a full colored character are the standard,
then i might as well draw something that i actually want. You will probably make more in 8 hours by begging
one the streets.

>>1641210
>If prices are pushed so low that many people are forced to abandon this as a career, then there will be less competition and prices will go up again.
It doesn't work that way.

>>1641213
>That's why i am telling him that his prices are ok, and that he shouldn't lower them more

His prices may work. Or they may not. I'm not here to tell him that, that's something only he can find out.

My point is that this is not something you can control, for the benefit of everyone. The market is self-correcting. You don't get to set prices for anyone but yourself. There are people who can draw better, and paint faster, than you. There are people who can make a living on $20 dollar commissions because they live in a country where a dollar buys a full day's worth of food. Maybe that's OP. I don't know, you don't know.

>>1640789
>>1641211

naively hopeful? or am i just a heartless negative bastard?

how many followers do you guys/gals have and how many are asking for commissions?

I finally won over my laziness and finished this. Also, thanks to whoever said that the
guitar was too big, a lot of threads ago, i have never seen a guitar from up close so
i had no idia, it should look more believable now, I hope.

>>1641255
Well the plan is create a da and post some original drawings and some fanarts for a couple of months and then start doing commisions

>>1641277
The guitar model is a Gibson Les Paul, and it is usually smaller than that, assuming your character is a normal sized adult. That is a more of a semi hollow guitar size. The guitar you drew also has a crazy thin but long neck, which makes it pretty hard to play irl.

Anyway, guitars aside, you need to work on your anatomy, specifically, the proportions. The proportions is all weird, like her hands, her arm length, her feet, etc. Try using reference; put them beside your drawing and compare once in a while to get that checked. Being a stylized drawing, you can also play around with the proportions a bit to get the effect you desire, so you don't need to be too focused on getting it 100% realistic.

Color wise, don't go for the monotone look ('Grey clothes? Darker grey shadows!' logic). Play around with colors a bit, experiment with cool and warm colors in your shadows, highlights, etc, based on the setting of the enviro and character. The values is also very limited since you started from a white bg (a common problem in animu drawings), so try learning about utilizing values more.

>>1641190
Its not cool to be selling shit tier art for high prices. Even if that other guy thinks its ok hes just a fool who is being jipped and thats not fair

Maybe I should break both of my arms in 30 places and charge 200 dollars for me to draw a stick figure. They'll get the deep and edgy message behind just how hard and long I had to move my arm to make that stick figure and it'll be a 2 deep for you message that'll be hanging in their house for the rest of the years of this earth

What the fuck am I talking about

>>1641289
Thanks a lot. I don't use reference on my drawings outside of studying, because my goal is to be able
to invent figures very easily from my memory, so if i screw up, i screw up. Now that i looked at some photos i realized that her legs
are too long, and i honestly couldn't tell before, i guess that's a problem on its own, i am not as familiar with
the human body as i should. About the color, i tried not to use just gray, and picked something like a dark washed out
green, but yeah my values are weak as i haven't really studied anything about color or value. So far i've only studied about
perspective gesture some anatomy. Anyway thanks a lot, i have lots to learn.

>>1640926
Thank you. I'll change it right after.

>>1640940
I'll adjust it, actually I just typed stuff didn't make any change to the fonts or kearning or anything.

>>1640943
The first time I posted they told me I charged TOO LOW. I was going to take $5 for an ink sketch and $20 for a full color painting.

>>1641206
>Pirate a $5 comic...
I know, I want to make comic books one day and those are really discouraging thoughts.

>>1641182
Those drawings are from mid 2013, that's why I want to draw some new stuff this week and show it in the chart.

pic related somewhat recent sketches.

It doesn't take me 8 hours but I do feel like it takes me more than it should to complete an illustration.

>>1641210
hobby artist on tumblr and similar sites don't even give a shit if they sell their artwork for 2 doller. I've seen so many commission charts with almost finished art for 2-5 doller it's crazy. They won't abond the market because they don't care.

>>1641429
>doller

>>1641382
I like how your sketchbooks look

>>1640943
no he doesn't you dummy. just because you're a manchild living in mommy's basement and every penny you get can be used to buy pokemon cards, so $20 is a fortune to you, doesn't mean everyone is.

>>1641382
from experience man, I can tell you, charge more than you think you should. Now, I'm not at the level yet where I'm doing commissions, but I was in your place a couple years ago with wondering how to price what I do freelance at, which is structural inspections.

At first I charged by the hour, and I got faggots that called me out for only spending 30 minutes inspecting and then told me about how long I must have spent writing the report and still charged them $200, boo hoo hoo, and they didn't want to pay me.

Then I charged a flat rate. I had no idea wtf I was doing and set it at $150 and I got tons of work. So I kept increasing it until now I'm at $350 and I haven't really turned off many clients because of it, and the additional income I get from the ones who do contract me make up for the ones I lose. I feel like I wasted a lot of potential earnings when I was charging too little.

I don' t know what the typical price for a commission is, but I know what I would do if I were in your place. I'd look at what other artists are charging, and regardless of talent, I'd make sure I was on the high end of that range.

>>1641514
Thank you.
Have a trap :)

>>1641450
sorry I am drunk

>>1641514
>I'd look at what other artists are charging, and regardless of talent, I'd make sure I was on the high end of that range.
This doesn't work if you are just doing general commissions. You probably need to start lower than what you deserve if you are unknown, work up some following at a lower pricepoint so you get a lot of commissions, then crank up prices until your 'supply' (aka. how much work you want to do) meets the demand. Just like any business you will need some promotion at the start so doing some fanart will probably help you gather a lot of traction if you are good at painting and net you a ton of commissions. This is especially helpful if you want to establish a higher pricepoint from the getgo

>>1641543
just like most people don't really have an idea of what a typical structural engineer charges for his time, i think most of the weebs that want people to draw their fetishes and waifus don't have a grasp on what an artist's fee should be as a function of their skill. i gather this by looking at the god awful stuff people actually pay for on DA.

what i mean is, if you charge more, it makes ignorant people think, "oh, I'm getting some quality stuff because it's costly," rather than "hey, i think he's overcharging me. his skills aren't in line with this price point." Assuming you're not an absolute bottom-tier symbol-drawing noob, which this guy obviously isn't.

>ton of commissions
I agree getting followers is crucial, and i agree fanart is a good way to get them hooked, but making your prices low just to get more volume is just a recipe for burning yourself out. I'd rather have fewer clients that pay more than a ton of them who pay peanuts.

or i may just be wrong and engineering is so totally unrelated that what I learned can't apply. I accept this as a possibility.

>>1641558
it's a shame dweebs have such a strong grip on the market. I blame the liberals for softening up society to make every one feel excepted no matter what their weab fetish/waifu is.

>>1641567
>hate liberals
I can get behind that
>weab fetish/waifu
Leave those guys alone, they are going to pay my bills eventually

When you raise your price, your target demographic changes. You're not going to be dealing with teen dweebs, but the socially retarded adults who can actually afford to pay. They have some fucked up fetishes and will try to be your friend...

Just fucking around, redid
its for some shit im working on that will probably never get done.
requesting critique

>>1641558
>making your prices low just to get more volume is just a recipe for burning yourself out
THIS

FUCK

YOU WILL ALSO GET A WHOLE LOT MORE BRAIN DEAD RETARDED CLIENTS AT LOW PRICED COMMISSIONS

It terms of visual abstraction, which one is better for hentaI?

>More complex backgrounds with simple characters help the reader feel more empathy for the characters.

>But since this is porn, shouldn't the selling point be the anatomy?

>>1641679
right side, i like to see whats going on and not be distracted by shit in the background

>>1641679
I find the one with less detail better, the first one looks overworked and the background is distracting. Maybe it's a bad example but generally what you want the selling point to be should be the thing that has more detail/contrast/etc

>>1641679
left is much better. not without faults, but good stuff nonetheless.

>But since this is porn, shouldn't the selling point be the anatomy?
setting is still very important

>>1641680
>>1641681
but the simplified version is too abstract and loses believability.

>>1641680
>>1641681
>>1641685
Hmmm.

Maybe this concept only applies to comics and not single paintings like that?

>>1641680
>>1641681
>>1641685
>>1641687
Ok. I changes the values to make the backgrounds more similar.

How does it feels now?

>>1641692
i still prefer the left. the beer cans and books help create a story in my mind that would not be possible on the right image. seeing wood floor brings up memories of sitting on the wooden floor (in sauna). the cracks in the wall and unkept bed tell volumes about the old man's character and desperation. you'd better add clothes too.

>>1641536
Fucking sauce for reasons of inspiration?

>>1641688
that applies to characters, not backgrounds.

>>1641703
This is the page about the backgrounds.

>>1641692
>>1641697

Speaking of the books please make them point towards the characters like the beer can rather than away from them.

>>1641708
well good, it doesn't contradict what i was saying. but even if it did, it's just another person's opinion. in the end it's your choice, just make it informed.

First time here. I wan't an anatomy critique, maybe lights/shadows too, there's no need to critique the line quality and stuff like that. Would love a redline if possible.

>>1641753
hips and waist too thin other then that good job

>>1641753
What's that white sperm cell supposed to be?

>>1641769
I don't really know, some energy thing that helps her to fly maybe? I just thought it was kinda fun to draw.

update,
wonder what you guys think

>>1641776
anatomy is really fucked... drawing from reference will do you good.

>>1641776
also try to think of everything having its own weight. like theres no way she could hold her arms like that while holding a shotgut ; )
this will give your drawings more believability

>>1641837
haha, nice. her arms look very pushed in, especially because of her enormous breasts

>>1641839
yeah I saw that too.

>>1641679
It's an interesting pose, I'll give you that, a lot like the shunga art.
I think if you went for minimal, yet crisp background detail, it'd look good. Whenever I see shunga I feel like they're on the dirt, because of all the unpainted space.

Practicing and trying to get better at making eyes change shape and shift to emote better. Drew this on break at work.

Any tips?

>>1641922
loomis

>>1641679
I like right more. It's a matter of preference really, one thing i learned the more i stayed on the hentai
side of art, is that you will never be able to satisfy everyone, so just go with what you think is best.

does this look okay so far?

>>1641953
my penis just nodded.

>>1641953
tits are too big

>>1641966
are you homosexual?

>>1641903
He didn't draw it.

>>1641971
Not that guy, but the tits do look weird. Placement looks off. They look like they'll be rock solid shapes with or without the bra.

>>1641999
the trips have spoken!

>>1641953
I'm probably not good enough to redline people's shit but I thought a few things were off.

The left boob was way too large. And that arm looked like it was going inside of her. A few things seemed lopsided too. Try to flip the canvas every 10 mins or so.

Hope it helps a bit.

>>1642009
it does help some so thank you

ignore the linework for now since I haven't actually finished it, but is this better?

>>1641953
>>1642020
Poses from the front can be surprisingly difficult in my experience, as you don't have much to work with in terms of perspective.

Anyway, I raped your picture.

>>1641922
just practice lad
we learn by repetition

the expression you drew is confusing at best, looks like you were aiming for a quizzical look but her mouth is really sad so i dont know under which circumstances that would happen.

>>1642080
Jesus this helps a ton. thank you, I'll likely post a fixed version sometime today.

>>1642020
looks nice so far. Any plans to do the rest of the team after that?

>>1642117
I'm sorta considering it after I spend some time working on my anatomy.

>>1642080
Wow if I can reach your level someday, I will be satisfied

>>1642235

Don't set your bar too low now, friend.

>>1642245
I don't think there's a risk actually, if I actually reach this level, I would probably start looking up to even better people and stay in a never-ending cycle of dissatisfaction with my work.
The upside is that is keeps you motivated to improve

>>1642251
NUUUDISTTTO BICHUU

great work

>>1642235
You chose a strange picture to praise me for, given it's a 10 minute redline.

>>1642251
Is she stuck?

>>1642254
I wasn't praising the piece as much as your implied skill level. I know I will need to practice a lot more to reach this level and I admire people who put in the hours to do it. I've recently started learning how to draw in order to create my own art for video games and I hope I will keep putting in the hours of practice that are needed. It's just that with my history of giving up many hobbies makes me admire people who keep at it.

>>1642256
watch Kill la Kill

>>1641701
Read file

>>1642267
I don't like fun.

help me to improve, to make shizune more sexy and erotic, please

>>1642282
give her a dick

>>1642285
/d/ pls go.

>>1642279
don't worry, it's not

it's merriment

>>1642282
learn to draw
then give her a dick

>>1642285
>>1642400
>dick
>sexy

>>1642285
>>1642400

I understand giving a girl a Penis may seem erotic in some sort of fetishy way but...why? Is it because giving her a Penis would somehow signify dominance? Would it signify her lust and consent for intercourse as she is looking at you with her erect cock?

You guys are weird.

Any good tutorials for coloring?

>>1642082
Ah, thanks. I'm just beginning to expand past generic slightly-happy and slightly-angry faces. I'll probably start drawing entire pages of just faces to practice.

>>1641924
Just started looking over the books recently. I'm not sure which one to start with, since I seem to have a grasp on everything in Fun with a Pencil.

>>1642417
Yes. Not a futa fan but that seems to be the thing.

Exactly the same as a girl turning into a succubus and pushing you down onto a bed.

>>1642442
>Yes. Not a futa fan but that seems to be the thing.
>Exactly the same as a girl turning into a succubus and pushing you down onto a bed.

Think about the money...the money you can make off of this just by drawing a simple shaft in between legs holy shit you guys.

>>1642448
Futas were replaced by traps more than half a decade ago. Quit living in the past.

>>1642448

And thanks to digital art you can add the phallus non-destructively.

>>1642417
You are overthinging it mate, dicks are sexi.

>>1642451
Traps are gay though, with Futas you can still sorta call yourself straight.

>>1642455
Do people still do that? if you like it you like it, what does it matter what title do you have?

>>1642285
>learn to draw
>then give her a dick
geez, thanks for the help, I'm still working on her, no dick although, I notice some problems with the chest, lips, hips and in somehow, the direction of the look, I'm still checking those.

I thought you could help me a little more, just a little, I thought wrong...let's hope somebody else could give me a few more useful indications to improve my draw

>>1642485
Your drawing level just isn't high enough to make it decent yet. It wouldn't really matter what kind of advice we'd give you.
Keep practicing.

Perspective is hard

has it ever been explained how to ratio the angles of two sides of a building or object? i haven't found any books on it.

>>1642080
yeah this helped a ton, so thanks a lot for this.
>>1642095
also, im no longer considering it since I ended up sketching poses for caesar and saemonza so im probably gonna make this a series of images.

>>1642506
can we get her seducing an ss officer?

>>1642498
That teapots off.

>>1642498
It's because you learn that from life studies, not books.

>>1642518
Hi, hi /pol/ is it Happening yet?

>>1642525
i do both

life studies dont reach their full potential unless i can explain why stuff is like that so i need books written by people who understand it to help

>>1642506

Try using a bigger brush when you're colouring.
Right now, the shading looks... stringy? sketchy? I don't know how to best describe it, but it looks unappealing. Clearly you are far from done, but please keep this in mind.

>>1642535
I will, thanks. Once I get the general look down im gonna be refining it.

>>1642491
>Keep practicing
thx, Im on it, now, what do you think??

>>1642568
>what do you think??

I think you should move on. You are investing time, energy and effort on something trivial as you will be burned out eventually. I know it may be difficult to let go but save it and look back a couple years and you will see your flaw(s).

Invest your time and energy wisely my friend, put the emphasis on fundamentals and try not to get too attached to your drawings learn to let go.

Intuos pro vs Intuos 5. Are there any significant feature that worth the $100 difference?

>>1642587
i have both (though one is medium other is large). it's pretty much the same shit except one comes with the wifi adapter and the other you have to buy separately. i like the 5's side buttons more because there are no gaps but hardly anyone uses those anyway.

>>1642581
wait my bad, I uploaded the same before.

now this

>>1642597
muh dick

get rid of that blue slug, make her eyeliner dripp down, with cum piss and spit guzzling outta her mouth and i will grace your image with the first fap

reminds me of calm's orc/succubus pic

>>1642597
vedy gud, give site
Getting porn crit in the animu thread is definitely not a good idea though since everyone is so insanely biased. If you want a more technical crit go to the drawthread.

>>1642597
I feel like the testicles are way too big. Are they like that because they are being pushed up?
then show it with some skin folds.

>>1642602
You remind me of myself from exactly a year ago. You clearly have the motivation and interest to continue, and in essence that is all it takes to succeed.

However, I hold my comment from when I replied to you before. Keep drawing, but move onto the next one after you've studied Loomis. Apply what you've learned on your next drawing, it's time to move on.

>>1642597
There's something wrong with her back/arm/shoulders and it took me a lot longer than it should have to realize she was cupping his balls, so you may want to fix that hand too.

>>1642653
Given the filename and lack of comment, I doubt that's his picture.

>>1642597
That's from Calm's stream on picarto from last night if i recall

>>1642602
Rollin go.
I want feeling... I want feeling...
I want to dive... lost mind...
Why, why, why, why? I want to dive!
Feeling over.
Going the way, you know... you know... yo...

>>1641679
I like left more. Right is too shiny and distracting.

Working on reducing me chickun scratch.

Character for a comic idea I have floating around in my head. Thoughts? I feel like his anatomy is a little fucked but I can't place my finger on it.

>>1642683
looks already much better
do you have a website?

>>1642518
All my money. All of it.

>>1642728
Njet.

>>1642683
Her nipples are a wee bit too high as well as her belly button, over all good stuff I love that face.

>>1642683
getting there, brah. At least you already know how to draw faces but what in the fuck is she licking??

>>1642683
im fapping to that.

>>1642737
Yeah, the birdman is pretty hot.

>>1642737
Don't give him that type of satisfaction goddammit!

>>1642731
Make one. Durak.

Someone with a fresh eye please critique. I deceive myself into thinking it looks okay.

>>1642754
Oh crap I forgot to not make it look like a lifeless doll sorry Anon.

>>1642754
Not to be insulting, but you need to work on the basics.
The image is very flat, and there's no sense of depth or coherence. The legs aren't really at the same angle as the rest of the body, and the clothes look a bit like random sheets of paper strapped to her body. Remember, clothes have thickness to them. You also need to work on the face. The iris is way too large. Even in anime style, the iris should never cover more than half the area of the visible part of the eye, unless you're making very specific expressions. Find an artist you like who does varied expressions and try to replicate it.

I strongly suggest spending a few months working on gesture drawing. It really is the best way to both learn anatomy and gain a sense of depth. Also, Loomis.

>>1642767
Thank you!

/co/ request that I liked

>>1642775
kill it with propane

>>1642717
anyone wanna critique this? I think his arms might be too long, but if there's something else I'd really like to know. I want to improve my art as much as I can before I start making comics.

>>1642779
His arms do look a bit long in the top drawing, but given that it's highly stylized and that he's wearing very bulbous clothes, it's difficult to critique.
I would suggest that you keep practising, and put your comic off for a while. I don't know how long you've been drawing, so I don't know how quickly you improve.
That being said, I do see potential and the style is fairly endearing.

>>1642791
I've been drawing since I was a little kid but never really took real lessons. I've just started doing it fairly seriously. ...I should probably read Loomis, huh?

>>1642800
When I say you have potential, don't take it as me being patronizing. You seem to have your own style with a bit of personality, and have a basic grasp of anatomy and form. The bottom picture in particular looks fairly decent, and you have the advantage of not using a lot of cluttered lines.
It still needs work, but I think you can improve relatively quickly compared to others I've seen.

>>1642805
Alright man, thanks a bunch. I just gotta practice more often.

>>1641953
Here's how I would have handled it. I changed the pose a little bit but I think it gives the general gist. I still can't tell whether you drew her leaning on something or kneeling so I left it ambiguous. Excuse the quick and dirty rendering.

>>1642775
A little awkward looking, and the tits are kinda lumpy, but I do love Panda to death.

>>1642767
nigga do you even know mikufag?

and i suggest gesture drawing and practice folds too, vilppu is fantastic for that, but this time think quantity over quality. You usually focus so much on one piece, you lose sight of anything new you might learn.

>>1642498
His left foot is not stepping on the ground.
He doesn't have a neck, least you could do is lower those collarbones.
Work on the right arm and hand, tea pod too.

>>1642987
Awkward, how so?

>>1642245
Made me lol

thoughts? WIP

>>1643160
>In every place that there is a line, there must be a cast shadow next to it.
Your understanding of light and shadow is non existent, read a book.
Also, you use symbols that you have no understanding of what they represent and why you have them there,
you just do it because you see other artist do it and copy mindlessly, study the human body more.
Now, understand that i am not giving you a specific critic about your drawing because there is nothing
specific to fix,the whole thing suffers from little to no understanding of how light works, bad anatomy
and a very stiff gesture. Face could work if the teeth weren't coming out from the upper lip.

>>1643169
>Your understanding of light and shadow is non existent, read a book.
your understanding of spotlight is nonexistent, look at photography, fgt.

>>1643169
symbols that I have no understanding of? wtf are you talking about?

>>1643024
>nigga do you even know mikufag?

What's that supposed to mean?

>>1643160
I would say define the acromion more and the clavicule could use some more curves, it looks like a straight bar and it doesnt seem to meet the acromion at all. The deltoid is perhaps a bit short. And the lack of rectus abdominis, but I feel that was deliberate

>>1642767
This is why I love you /ic/ worked on the face a bit at looks better now but stopping there and moving on thanks again.

which one looks better? Should I stick to flats and or a simple shadowing, or is the right one looking fine?

>>1643346
MANKANSHOKUUU

>>1643346
You are not leaving the left one like that right? i mean you are talking about flat shading, but the left one has non.
Both can be good if done right, it's a matter of taste at that point. Just decide what you like best and go in that
direction. On another note, i think that there is something wrong with her skeleton, why is her torso almost
one head away from her neck? it's like she is hiding a rugby ball under her shirt.

>>1643391
She just have megatits

>>1643346

I think there are too many soft edges in the hair.

>>1643169
what symbols did I mindlessly copy... wtf are you talking about?

>>1643409
>not writing impossibru

>>1641692
In both versions I prefer the more detailed one on the left; the background to the right is too abstract and lacks the same depth. I do think the textures in the back are too distracting as they are now, so I'd either ditch them or make them less obvious.

>>1643418
He didn't fucking draw it. It's by some Japanese guy.

>>1642455

>mfw I like femboys/traps and girls more than futas

I like small or flat chests with hueg female hips so take that as you may

>>1643346

I commend your bravery but I must suggest that you plan to do some hand studies in the near future

>>1643391
I won't, the left one is unfinished of course, I just wasn't sure about the aproach and didn't want to continue it if it looked like shit. You're right about the tits, tho, didn't even notice it.

>>1643396
alright, I'll see that when I get back home!

>>1643445
she has sailor hands. but yeah.

>>1643507

I haven't watched a whole lot of KLK, is she supposed to have man hands?

>>1643441
why?
how do people get into traps?
they have dicks, they are men.

>>1643513
because we're all bisexual by nature.
you can suppress it all you like but you'll only end up hurting yourself. nobody is 100% heterosexual.

>>1643513

They're cute and effeminate, doesn't matter if they have dicks or not.

>>1643523
The only reason why they're attractive is because these so-called "traps" possess Feminine like qualities. And that's all there is to it. If you still want HIM after finding out he has a penis then you're a gay who should seek help.

>nobody is 100% heterosexual.

pic related.

>>1643523
>nobody is 100% hetero
Not quiet, there is people that is 100% straight, but yeah, there are some gray areas and such and traps likely fall into that

Who the fuck cares if what yours or other people's genitalia think of something

you wanna fuck it then go straight ahead

>>1643539
Want to talk about it, Anon? It's okay you can come out of the closet love.

>>1643540
what

>>1643541
>>>/lgbt/

>>1643542
>>>/pol/

>>1643478

>>1643533
>I've never imagined Vilppu's mustache brush past my face as his erect penis digs into my thigh and he whispers in my ear, "no rules, only tools..."

I think you're the one who needs to seek help.

>>1643546
>I think you're the one who needs to seek help.
You just keep telling that to yourself.

>>1643545
Wtf is this? I was posting my stuff and instead this faggot appear.

>>1643552
That is a direct reflection of your inner self, Anon no question about it embrace the baby face man.

>>1643526
But that's what matters anon, cute dicks are sexy.

>>1643552
Second try

>>1643523
i dont know. i am completely put off by dicks. i dont get the appeal. then on the other hand pussies look kinda weird too. boobs are the best part anyway

>>1643563

Oh, I've found the root of the problem. It's merely that your tastes are pedestrian.

>>1643563
I'm also was, until i met some artist who draw and stylize cocks so well that even super straight anti-gay warrior can't resist.

>>1643563

I used to be put off by dicks too but I guess that's just subconscious denial and repression on my part. As a person who REALLY liked females and the female form (still do) Dicks are pretty nice too since I've explored my sexuality.

This is getting pretty /lgbt/ through, post drawings I can bitch at dammit.

>>1643552
probably b/c they share same filename?

>>1643593
Maybe, new canvas is super generic. I wonder if my ass appear in some bawwwww or feels thread.

>>1643513
Men are attracted to girls.
Traps act and dress like girls.
Also if a trap wears a skirt, it isn't gay.

I'm not even sure what course to take in college...

seriously there are too many degree and I don't even know which one to take.

I'd like to use computer software for working, pretty much 2D illustration like concept art(cartoon/anime or game related) or novel illustration. Design is okay too.

and the important question is which one suit me Or the one should I take so I can make living of along drawing?

Sorry for my bad English :(

>>1643545
Goddamn. I shouldn't have laughed so hard. This is 100% better than whatever image this was supposed to be.

>>1643523
Sounds like you're referencing Ron White there, but I'll have you know that Stephen Colbert is just as true in saying that Lesbian porn is the only straight porn for guys. Thus I am 100% straight.

gesture is stiff i know. tried to do the face, and everything really, completely from imagination. next time i'll use a ref.

I liked it, but after some time something looks off.

>>1643763
actually saw some stuff right after I posted, still feels off.

>>1640904
Still not happy with this thing. I haven't work on it recently though. I made the background slightly lighter.

>>1643783
Gravity also affect boobs.

>>1643794
I tried a pose in mid motion, came out flat.

>>1643789
amateur graphic designer here, that font and your color choice is terrible for what you are doing

that font creates far too much space between lines and words and frankly looks like ass. For something just plain promotional like this, go with a basic font. helvatica, calibri, baskerville, bauer, etc

also those boxes, fucking lose them, stick to one background color, and if you need a box, use it around the images only to make sure they stand out if they don't, and that's only if necessary, really, lose the fucking boxes

>>1643763
>>1643783
Strokes are all splotchy and haphazard; especially makes the faces look gross. Simplify your brushwork.

The entire area from Kneesock's deltoid to her mid thigh is all the same value and thus looks flat, like it's all pressed against glass.

Not enough dark values--deeper occlusion shadows could really help.

Stocking's hair, holy shit where do I start.

>>1643789
Main font choice is fine, imo but you need to fix the kerning, badly.

Line up all the titles ("information" is too high)
I'd suggest to change the COMMISSIONS title font cause it's ugly.

Push the price title and # together. They're too far a part and they bleed beyond the border created by your images.

What the fuck is going on with the boxes at the bottom? Also, that dead space on the bottom right... Do something about it.

I tried to draw a good looking guy, how'd I do?

>>1643845
you drew this guy. But really; define good looking. Good looking is very subjective. We all have our own idea of what the person we'd like to fuck would look like. Usually what defines "attractive" in modern Western culture would be hard jawlines, strong jaws, broad features, etc. I'll post something I guess to give you my idea of "good looking"

>>1643845
well this is a poor example but eh.

>>1643861
He looks more like an old man from Ippo, given his graying hair on the sides. The bottom sketches look the best, though. Also, drop the fucking snout.

>>1638818

Can you spot the trap?

>>1643874
I say the middle front, given everyone else has big boobs and you said "the" trap which means it's just one dude so it can't be the twins on the back.

>>1643874
I have spent enough sperm on that trap to solve japan's low birth rate problem,
are you kidding me?

>>1643861
You're right, it is subjective. But if I personally think he looks good, is that enough? I guess what I'm asking is if I have a female character go "he's cute!" at first glance, would it seem unjustified?

>>1643871
Not greying, shaved. Is there perhaps a clearer way I could be showing this?

Here are some head studies for a different character, sans snout.

>>1643783
> Bodies and form how do they work holy shit
Try studying from references before your attempt because this is horrifying.

>>1642247
that's exactly right. when i was 10 i wanted to draw like christopher hart. now that faggot disgusts me.

>>1643913

get rid of the lines and keep the light purple of the stubble

>>1643805
>>1643825
Thank you guys, I'll do my best.

>>1643939
What went wrong specifically so I can target those areas in my studies?

Working on a concept for a goofy comic about a murdered kid who thinks he's a cop. Here's a simple drawing of him. Might post a few more.

I think I have an okay grasp on the basics, but I feel like all of my drawings come out stale and uninteresting.

>>1643620
Straight men are attracted to females.
Traps are males.
Liking traps makes you bisexual.

>>1644131
What's your tumblr, are you taking commission yet?

>>1644140
One more. I think this one is a bit better. I realize now that I should have drawn his right hand behind his leg.

Still working the design.

I read something I've never seen before, without understanding a word of it.

That's what I was aiming for when I made these yesterday. Instead, I got a bland copy of existing work, without adding anything new.
I thought I'd post it here to hear what you guys think about it. A few more pages coming up soon.

>>1644179
Here's another one. I feel like the typical comic book layout is making the reader lose interest and just look at something else instead.

>>1644186
The next step I think would be making more stuff like pic related, blow up the scale into large poster sized drawings. Try to simplify even more, without losing the manga aesthetics.

>>1644188
is that... the stig?

>>1643783
This might be the worst thing I ever saw
You should be ashamed

>>1644145
>TUMBLR
http://danielcrawley.tumblr.com/

And nope, I'm not asking yet, I want to make a few drawing this week (week end) to see how much time it will take me and such. Feel free to follow me though... I guess I'll start early in February.

>>1643789
>>1644131
>>1644145
>>1644258
What about this? I'm just planning the layout.

How uptight is tumblr when it comes to material? Can I post stuff like >>1642683 ?

Trying to do some character designs.
But they all end up looking too animu... Fuck...

>>1644287
>he doesn't know the mountains of porn uploaded to tumblr

>>1644287
not much but you have to make sure to set your tumblr to NSFW if you're gonna post stuff like those or some fag or two will report it.

>>1644273
I think you're overthinking this but I like this layout better

>>1644294
It's not so much the porn. More the dfc.

>>1644287
>>1644294
>>1644296
>>1644302
Not the same guy but is guro and weird shit like that okay on tumblr?

>>1640637

Face is good, but dude, the body is awful. First, the lower half is too small, like we're looking at her from above except not. No, like someone skewed the image to wedge it together at the bottom. The lighting, well, no light source, nothing resembling skeletal structure and musculature knowledge. Awkward pose. No grounding.

Just a nicely rendered face attached to amateur shit, like you only ever bothered to practice portraits. Even the face has construction issues.

>>1644256
Oh no, I no longer have your approval.
>Stabs drawing hand

>>1640724

Hips and hands are awful. Like the hips are too far down and are all ballooned up, not even like she's fat nor muscled but just weirdly thick in the wrong places. Hands you didn't bother with.

Style and face are good, I like that aspect.

>>1641679

The more detailed character AND the more detailed background. Detail in bg gives mood to the piece and makes for better arousal in my dick. It's clear oh hey they're in an apartment and are drunk.

Anyone saying otherwise is wrong.

>>1641953

Face is fucking terrible and lacks the connective muscle/tissue that holds the breasts to the torso/shoulders. Nice lighting and colors, could be a good piece. Retarded expressions.

>>1642009

Is better. He got the connective tissue like I said.

>>1642080

Fuck yeah.

>>1642597

Nice brah. Nice technical painting knowledge, great colors and shade hue. Don't render more, your strokes are sexual.

Not my cup of tea, but NICE.

For next time, make sure you think through the entire pose, even the off canvas. How is she sitting? Only obvious area to improve in.

>>1642775

She has a LOT of hair, how big is her skull? Needs more overlap to show the torso is above the ass. Put a line there showing that form separation. Pretty nice, very ambitious, good shadow technique.

>>1644291

Nice liveliness and gesture. Would watch/read. Just, no one wears glasses like that, please fix it. I hate this shit. it's falling off her damned face. The nose piece crosses in the shallowest part of the nose, not just over the nose tip. God damn.

>>1644343

Lumpy, legs too short, bad construction and anatomy in general. Nice ink.

>azula

That's Azula? Get the fuck out. Azula is an athletic fighter, not a lardcow.

>>1644273
I'll use other color, but so far I'm liking the values and design.

>>1644356
Thanks. Just doodlin, man. Meant to have her glasses falling off on that one.

Any tips for character designing? All I know is you need a good silhouette. Gonna do some gestural and concept art stuff after once I decide on a design.

>>1644353
Thanks

>>1644357
Working on it
> not a lardcow.

Captivity made her soft.

>>1644134
Forms of the body - where the fat/mass/muscle go. Seriously kneesocks's body is like a flat red cutout and you made the hair like a solid block of colour, they don't work like that.
I'm not going to bash you with Loomis but what the hell do you ever think of using references when attempting poses you obviously have no idea how to do

>>1644362
I bet you guys are getting tired of me. Don't worry, this is my last post of the day. Feel free to throw shit on it.

>>1644439
> last post of the day
> of the day
pls go away until you have the final version or go to /gd/

>>1644434
Was a sketch that I wanted to work up, but I get your meaning, thanks.

>>1644439
That font is so ugly.

Try visiting /gd/'s font share thread.

>>1644439
Never give up anon-kun.

Just wanted to get some feedback on this, I'm new to the whole anime style and wanted to give it a go.

I had no idea what sound a tv would make.

>>1644465
Not bad, but you might want to go for more varied line thickness.
Also, a T.V. would, of course, be going "BAZABAZABAZA."

>>1644324
Absolutely. A lot of people on there eat that shit up. Just tag it accordingly and you're good.

>>1644480
Thanks, I'll work on it, just getting used to digital art, can't seem to get line thinkness down on it.

>>1644149
I'm no drawing expert but I just wanted to say I like the design. But there's still some technical flaws if that's what you wanted to know. (weird thumb, his left feet position/perspective...)

>>1644291
Then un-animu her eyes if you're not happy with that. Try something completely different. Look at US cartoons and shit.

>>1638843
Hello? So are you going to make the new threads?

>>1644517
Thanks, my friend! I'll keep an eye out for perspective issues in later drawings.

>>1644552
this one hit limit already?

study from some random post on /e/

>>1644650
face is too squised

Tell me /ic/ would my 4koma comic be considered "professional quality"? would you read it?

also any criticism is welcome, I'd like to get some feedback before moving onto the next one

>>1645416
There is nothing to read.

>>1645418
I don't want to spoil the story yet