/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

K, I got a foreground, and background.
Any suggestions for a mid?

I drew this portrait of a girl I kinda fancy.
Am I too focused on construction?

Help with anatomy/proportions

>>1612683
Is that some /ss/ goodness?

>>1612680
You're too focused on drawing and less focused on the fact that you have a crush on a zombie

>>1612683
why does she have 80's cone tit syndrome goin on

>>1612679
A human, who has fallen into a world of giant rats.

Started a thumbnail, would this composition fair better if the characters were moving left to right or right to left? I've learned right to left causes more tension and feels unatural but that's how I started this one without thinking and I keep flipping the canvas. Any thoughts?

>>1612679
Someone sitting alone or The Return of the Rat King.

>>1612694
a human with a rat mask - >ratted out of society

>>1612699
I was gonne draw a rat exterminator, but return of the rat king is a way better idea!

>>1612703
>>1612694
Also thanks for the suggestions!

>>1612683
She's about to fall, and not even giant feet can save her!
>>1612692
Haha, good one

reposting

>Ok, I was trying to draw some sex poses to focus in anatomy, but I was told it was wrong without further explanation
>How can i fix it? I've edited it like 3 times and doesn't seem to get any better

>>1612712
First of all those lines are way to scratchy. Not saying they have to be perfect for a scratch but you're basically trying to create thickness by going back and forth like a maniac. Stop that.
Another thing, you're working almost entire in outline, especially on the body. Just do cross contours and segmentation, forget about the outlines, you want to show the volume, not the outline.
Anatomy-wise, again you need to focus way more on the volumes of the body instead of the body's outline. There are no muscles or fat to be seen anywhere, not even a basic set of primitive volumes, cubes, spheres, cones, anything.
You should draw your next pic WITHOUT outlines. Use only cross-contours, intersection, primitives, anything but those damn outlines.
And that pose just calls for a stronger more coherent curve to go from the toes all the way to the head, a real arch in the back. It/He's pulling her hair for heaven's sake, why would her back be almost straight? There's no force or power to be felt at all.
Overall you really need to focus on the fundamentals and start using your drawing to communicate shapes in 3D space, not lines on a paper.

>>1612688
It might be a fat dwarf can't decided

>>1612690
Hey those are my favourite types

>>1612710
I thought perhaps she could be relying on the other person to prevent her fall. Sort of leaning in, which is why put her hand on his head. Might tweak it so it doesn't read so badly.

>>1612680
Yeah you are letting the construction hinder you by making it more important than other things such at 2d relationships and your value pattern.

Use a simpler construction and don't shade it based on the construction you put down, shade it based on the main forms and how it looks in your reference.

You are overstating many things because of the construction--this applies not only to your shadows, but also to contours. The far edge of her face is way to lumpy...it is likely much more simple than that.

Remember to keep it SIMPLE. Erase out your construction lines too if they are getting in the way of the image (as they currently are).

>>1612712
This guy >>1612720 is right. Think of the main forms and their volumes, and then how they relate.

With your linework, it is okay to go over the same line more than once, but make the lines longer so it flows over that whole area. Do not make one flowing line by placing a hundred short choppy marks.

Anyways, here is a quick construction showing how cross contour lines show the volume. I also put the three main masses of the human in blue, so you can be aware of their volume and how they relate.

>>1612720
>>1612727
Thanks
I'll work on it

nigu

hi
this was about 1 hour from imagination.
do you think i can start working on bigger projects , or do i need more loomis?
A real problem with my art is that i don't plan out what i want to do... i just do basic construction and lack directions to push it in, how do i fix shitty doodling?

>>1612770
its bad, you still lack fundamentals

>>1612679
These aren't rules for making a picture. There's no checklist that says you need those things. I'd look at your composition again or you'll be unhappy when it comes to the final piece.

>>1612773
15 min, no eraser
would you be so kind to point our the mayor areas of my suckage?

WIP
I am not sure about color and lighting on body
any advices?

20 min, no eraser

what should i work on?

hands suck. feet suck. neck to thick. breasts facing in weird directions. babys not attached to her head properly. right baby looks too old.
shoulders to wide.

are my observations sufficient, or would you add something?

>>1612805
he survived this car crash without any scratch, so I wanna him to look more like terminator

>>1612710
Change in plans >,<

>>1612650
Can I has redline, suggestions? Something?

Is a little drawing I'm working on.

>>1612697
I say flip it, but that's just me.

>>1612697
this isn't a thumbnail hoe

>>1612922
20min study.

>>1612933
looks rigged as fuck, did you use the picture as your color palette?

>>1612933

watch ya edges, boi

>>1612886
My tablet's busted, but it looks like the shoulders are a little broad. Her left arm is a bit too curved and away from her torso, too.

Cute pic btw.

..

.

I need to relearn a lot of things

>>1612933
needs more contrast dude, looks like you just painted on top of the original pic and used it as your color palette

Don't know where else to post this.

It's yarn.

>>1612946
What are you talking about? It's a study. He's trying to copy it as accurately as possible, and he clearly did a damn fine job.

some doodles and studies from tonight, realized I've been completely neglecting both

>>1612959
either way it needs more contrast and the lines are too loosely defined. i never said the study was bad, it's technically good but critique is critique, mang.

>>1612940
Thank you! Anything'bout the sack, I feel it needs some tweaking but I don't know what to do with it.

>>1612933
was this done in illustrator btw?

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>>1612945
Why do you say relearn?

>>1612987

Grats you just hit the skill ceiling for oil pastels

>>1612862
haha awesome
you could push the values a shit ton harder tho, nothing is brighter than like a 5 or 4. make the scientist rat really pop out and give the rest a bit more contrast wiggle room

>>1612989
Because after a very long depressive break I need to learn again how to enjoy the process of painting

>>1612862
some of the rats to the right seem to saluting the wrong direction, just if they're saying "tada!"

>>1612987
I don't get why a lot of people need to include their drawing tools in the pics.
It distracts from the motif! In this case it's pretty subtle, but I see people all the time on instagram who puts all their fine liners in the pic. Why is that so important?

>>1613056
buttmad digital fag detected

>>1613013
Please be joking I just spent 30$ on pastel supplies because I thought it was a good medium to start with traditional art. So far it's quite fun only con is that it is very messy. I will probably just use sanguine+white+toned paper and a bit ofcharcoal until I get uses to it.

>>1613019
Hope everything is better now, the wip seems promising.

>>1613056
All the cool kids were doing it.

>>1613013#

Please be joking I just spent 30$ on pastel supplies because I thought it was a good medium to start with traditional art. So far it's quite fun only con is that it's very messy. I will probably just use sanguine+white+toned paper and a bit of charcoal until I get uses to it. (I wasted so much color doing that puny apple)

>>1613019#

Hope everything is better now, the wip seems promising.

>>1613056#

All the cool kids were doing it. But seriously I think it can be helpful for the palette and supplies information.

Btw is there a good proven method to fix pics of trad. art? I just tried a filter on imgur that fixed the paper tone but the contrast of the sanguine is a bit too high

>>1613056
to show the scale of the piece

and to look super cool n artsy, like in firez's case.

>>1613019
Oh damn man, I thought you got over that a while ago :( I remember I PMed you about it on CA and you seemed to be doing well and said you had gotten over your depression (this quite a few months back now though). Hope things get better for you...I guess the very fact that you are posting here and doing art is a good sign.

>>1612770
>>1612798
Australia?

>>1612945

I like your color choices. Was this all one layer or did you sometimes create a layer to put some transparent strokes of color over the ones you first put down?

>>1612962

I've been familiar with you drawing monsters for a while, now. I never bothered to ask until now - what are you inspired by, what's your thought processing when you're coming up with them?

As for me, didn't get a good reception on this guy, but fortunately I'm not made of glass. Even more fortunate, a few little breakthroughs built up to what I feel are the ideas I had for the character being more clearly portrayed in the design. Bigger hands fitting for displays of strength, black cloth laced with gold to create interest, along with slashed upper sleeves and an undone button to fit in with an earlier design change that gave him frayed hairs. I think this is as far as I can take it without adding clutter, unless anyone has any other ideas.

Freeballling an oil painting, it's my 3rd attempt.
I know the ear is too big.

>>1612736
Ok, another attempt. Better, worse? Where?

It's 6 AM and im pretty tired so I'll drop here and come back tomorrow

Time to move to detailing and polishing

Requesting critique Plz

>>1613134
Cool image, but it lacks a bit of punch. You can play up the values and saturation more. Basically you have this creepy thing coming out of the shadows of a cave, so make the shadows darker. And you have this gold material headdress, so focus on getting some better material differentiation. I just took a soft brush on an overlay layer and then did a touch of painting ontop on a regular layer.

>>1613134
The headdress/helmet thingie forms a very nasty tangent with the shoulderline, flattening the image out. Id also suggest making the shoulders more narrow, but thats pretty much it, looking really good

>>1613138
there we go

>>1613134
maybe it's too late to change, but the arms look awfully short, especially when you notice how broad the shoulders are.
there could definitely be a beter balance between the two

How do I learn linework? Comparing it to the thing I want, I guess it looks like I'm drawing the outlines, and I should be thinking more about the form? I'm not sure.
I'm still doing loomis and vilppu and I'm a pizza shit, but I still want to try by the side.

>>1613169
you should go gesture drawing as well as doing line exercises with your elbow and whole arm. line art becomes more confident through both knowledge of form and training fine motor functions.

>>1613169

That's an easy fix actually, you should start making the lines longer, and not just start them when they should start. Easier to show then explain, see picture.

>>1613019
>>1613129
hey man can you drop me an email? a couple of us hangout and paint each day, would be good to see you around sometime

>>1613199
No, fuck off attention-whore.

looking for suggestions for how i should go about coloring this

>>1612922
I uh, it, it was. I made it bigger.

>>1613216
Did you think people would look past your fake tripcode or something?

>>1613218
File size mate

>>1612697
After seeing the areas I need to work on, I just prefer the flow from right to left.

>>1613218
>>1613227

whoops

>>1613169

>>1613245
cant stop laughing at that snapped and twisted arm

>>1613250
Yeah flipping the canvas has made some issues very clear

>>1613115
Honestly for monsters it's mostly a matter of letting my hand draw what it wants and then using my brain to streamline it. It's very relaxing for me, but I'm beginning to think that I'm not growing as much as I'd like when I "relax" while drawing.

Btw I do like this guy a lot! I think in this rendition the face is a bit flat, as in, it looks like a 2d image imposed onto an angled 3d plane. Maybe that's the look you're going for?

I also think that since this character looks like you're designing him for a comic or an animation, he will shine the most when moving. Maybe you'll get a better reaction in that light?

>>1613254
before you flipped it, he looked like he had a broken horses leg for an arm

>>1613186
Gonna' do more gestures, I've also done some "Dynamic Sketching" by Peter Han lately. My lines used to be a lot worse.
>>1613196
Going to try it
>>1613249
I wanted to have him at a bit of a upper perspective, but this probably looks as weird still

>>1613263
Another thing to remember is that in your drawing all your lines were the same width. The drawing you posted as your goal used varying widths. You'll see in the girl drawing that the outline is thicker and inner details are thicker. There are other rules about which lines should be thinner and which thicker. I think it's scott robertson who has lineweight tutorials on youtube. And I think teal did a teal-line for some guy explaining it once.

>>1612805

Studies before bed

Do your worst please

>>1613275
seems like the light from the back going around the figure has too much color variation and the shadow/lights in general could use a bit more hard edges

>>1613270
derp *inner details are thinner* i know how to spell.

>>1613275
are you gay for this dude or something?

>>1613309
definitely I will do at the end ...but what about color?

>>1613326
yes its my bf, why?

>>1613333
>my bf
HE ADMIT IT!

>>1613333
well there's not much room for a lot of color, and i can't tell you to use a specific color or whatever if that's what you're asking... maybe you could adjust the warm/cold balance on the figure right now it looks like the blue is coming from the right side looking at the face, but the lower parts suggest the light is coming from below... it could also just be that the flesh tones are fading away too much down there

>>1613343
stop

Current WIP

This is the first time i got this far in painting something!

>>1613343
I dont have a boyfriend D':

And my drawing stinks aswell!

>>1612944
why are you signing your sketches.

>>1613367
Because he can. Why does it bother you that he is signing his sketches?

>>1613355
he looks gay as fuck

>>1613373
how is that a critique

>>1613370
Because it's pointless for a beginner to do.

>>1613236
She still looks like she's about to fall

>>1613249
I love your figures

>>1613355
Painting contre-jour is hard. You might want to move the sun.

>>1612958
That wolf looks magic.The flowers however look like an half assed aftertought.

can somebody redline this?

Kay it's finished

Critiques please

>>1613381
>>1613410
Btw i didn't change the sun because i would have to redo a lot and didn't feel like it. So have a crappy contre-jour instead.

>>1613374

His feet are sodomizing the soil while he rubs his anus against a rock, thinking perverse thoughts about poorly drawn green goblins with horns. Do you even lift?

That niggas gay as fuck.

>>1614310
How hard is it to make a new layer, use the elliptical marquee tool to make a circle, color it light yellow, and gaussian blur the edges to push it back in space.... just sayin.
Otherwise not bad in terms of how you thought about the forms being lit from a low angle. I would push the contrast even more. There's no area especially in the figure where there are extreme contrasts of dark and light, its all in a middle ground of value. The ground seems flat but a lot of the rocks you painted are all sitting at weird angles. And those feet, blarg. You got the hands but ditched out on the feet.

>>1613402
>In before stop redlining you're too new.

May Loomis have mercy on our souls. If you want someone to give you a better redline, post the reference otherwise I'm probably all you're going to get.

I think I made the bed too big

>>1613433
Aren't redlines supposed to go on top of their drawing?

>>1613437
I couldn't use his drawing, instead I tried to get his idea of what he was trying to do and used my imagination to redo everything.

I drew this months ago for a drawfag thread on /v/. I didn't felt like actually finishing it until now, but whatever.
It would be nice if somebody could help with the proportions of the arms (especially the deltoids), the shape of the pectoral area and the upper leg muscles before I get to draw the actual thing.
Also, I'm want to draw him a hat and some pants (or maybe something else) like in the reference but I don't know what kind of shapes/texture should I apply.

This

>>1613437
Does she live with a giraffe?

Yeah, the bed's a little long. The arms/stretching pose looks a little static and awkward too.

>>1613402
my crappy attempt. it's mostly eyes and boobs that look a little off. someone can probably do a better job on it than me.

Hey guys I'm pretty new to digital art and just got my tablet a month ago.

Can you guys tell me how I did on my first piece?

>>1613455
Good rendering, but you need to focus on construction. He starts becoming a bit of a shapeless blob in some places.

Decided to jump out of comfort zone and do some environment.

>>1613442

i knew that handwriting looked familiar

>>1612805
>>1612829
>>1613275
>>1613309
>>1613326
>>1613333
>>1613347
>>1613347

Ic how do I into ocean water ? Obviously I used some textures but it just looks like shit and plastered.Is there some sort of way I can simplify the water enough to not make it pop out so hard.

>>1613437
Not just the bed, the ceiling is too low, the floor slants up and to the right, the door is too wide. Basically nothing is really in perspective or proportion with anything else. Construction, perspective, and proportion is essential when you are creating an interior environment.

>>1612744
Nice stance, decent stylization, more lighter tones to pop it from the background, its mid tones on gray right now so the pants are drawing more attention.

>>1612798
Proportions of head is off compared to the body, as well as other proportional issues. The arm pointing at the viewer is flat mostly because of shading and that there is no perspective on it. Your feet shapes aren't really accurate to the way feet work. And finally the entire pose is off balance. The amount of time you spend and materials you do or don't use do not make you a better or worse artist, how you use them does, and you still have work to do.

>>1613483
Nice start, decent values, and solid blocking in of shapes. I would push the values more on the central structure to create more focus and work on defining the bridge more, especially its reflection because that ain't right.

>>1613498
your main concern should not be the background or the colors with this one but the main composition and pose of the character. Think outside of the canvas and scribble around for better flow to get a more dynamic sense of action.

>>1613506
I wasn't aiming for dynamic sense of action.He's not jumping across the sails.And obviously at this stage of renderring Im not going to burn it and start over :/

>>1613516
>I wasn't aiming for dynamic sense of action.He's not jumping across the sails
Dynamics doesn't just refer to 'actions' in the traditional sense, but having flow throughout the figure and an interesting gesture. Look up a contrapposto and how a stationary figure can be 'dynamic'. Pic related.

>at this stage of renderring Im not going to burn it and start over :/
Time already invested doesn't change the value of a piece. People judge the results, not the time stamp, to determine whether they like a piece or not. The pose in the redline isn't perfect, but it is clearly an improvement.

If you want to call this done and move on, I understand. However, if you spend a lot of time on a piece and later realize that something isn't working, don't be afraid to change it.

As an aside, consider thumbnail exploration before committing to a piece to avoid situations like this in the future:
http://pastebin.com/fZM8NdBr

>>1613442
Nothing?

>>1613516
But still giving it more dynamic flow adds to the confidence of the piece and character making it more interesting which is something not to be disregarded

>>1613523
also this

>>1613516
>>1613523
I forgot to add:

There isn't anything inherently 'wrong' with a static figure, but depicting one as such is a choice. At the very least, you should have a specific reason for using a static figure, and at the same time it must work better (in terms of content, composition, flow, etc) than the dynamic alternative.

>>1613527
>>1613523
While all of this is well and good, and a valid critique,and I do appreciate it. It's not the answer I'm looking for.

>>1613535

LOL

Welcome to /ic/ this isn't what you asked for, this isn't what you wanted.

Good luck figuring out how to draw ocean water on your own! No one here will help you.

(google search images of ocean water, find a scene you like and save it. Open it in your editor of choice. use color selector on the ocean scene and build up a palette of colors the artist used. You can find tons of different palettes this way. Now desaturate the ocean image and note the values the artist used. See if you can duplicate waves starting with monochrome.)

critiques will be highly appreciated

>>1613535
It's the answer you need, faggot. These guys are right, the most dramatic flaw in your work is the static pose of the pirate. Learn how to build a better composition before jumping in and investing hours of work into shit that's fundamentally flawed.

Additionally, if you don't actually want to accept relevant critique, leave /ic/. You waste the effort of these other blokes by discarding information that hurts your feelings.

>>1613538
thank you anon.You may have my digital love.

>>1613540
Looks clean and the anatomy isn't that bad.
The front-looking faces look a little off-model from the rest, also you need to work on how you draw hair.
Overall, not bad at all.

>>1613542

dat contribution tho

>>1613540
reminds me of the avatar alien people

>>1613498
Are you the same guy that was asking how to make his face not look like a pretty boy? This looks tons better compared to the original draft. Better texture and personality in the face!

>>1613540
Looks a little uncanny, like an unflattering caricature. This is because:
-the eyes are too far apart
-the ears are too large
-Nose a bit too wide
-mouth is too large.

All these combined do make her look like >>1613555


And before anyone says it: yes, I understand this is supposed to be stylized, and many deviations from the norm are possible. However, everything is drawn fairly true to nature save for the proportions. Instead of a stylistic choice, it looks more like a mistake. The fact that the model's likeness varies a bit between heads furthers this looking like a mistake, or at the very least an oversight.

>>1613540
Looks very manly and has an annoyingly large mouth. But very well done, looks professional

just made a horrible spitpaint. How do they do it

>>1613498
build some contrast within the water and boat, they blend at a certain degree, no part of the water pops out.

>>1613502
Thanks. I definitely see the proportions are way off now, but what do you mean by nothing's in perspective? Did I screw up my VPs?

>>1613576
Honestly I can't really place why it feels off, maybe it has something to do with the texture on the floor, it's mostly on the right side of the image.

>>1613486
Yeah, I used some anon's "texture ball" chart for reference of what I'm aiming to do with the rough draft.

>>1613491
you have gone "too grainy" with the skin now.

How dis?

>>1613609
Pure garbage

>>1613609
I'd like to see more room above the central figure's head. The cropping is a little tight and the figure separates the scene into two separate paintings. In that line of though, I'm also not the biggest fan of having him dead center on the canvas, but I don't know if your value groupings are final, what colors will be used, or what content the environment will provide - my opinion might change as this progresses.

Your preliminary drawings always seem great to me, but something goes wrong in the painting process and things take a turn for the worse - probably due to values, colors and brushwork. Have you been working on any of those? Do you ever do several value and color thumbnails before you begin painting?

>>1613609
Love it so far, although the axe is forming a nasty tangent with the pillar, could use some fixing with the composition as >>1613612 suggested

>>1613609
Muddy and kinda generic.
The composition is passable, but nice anatomy anyways.

>>1613442
So, 6 hours and still noting.

>>1613609
Good start but the figure in the middle has a tiny T-rex arms.

>>1613442
So 6 hours and still nothing.

>>1613540
eyes too big.
looks like a man.

don't exaggerate the features so much

>>1613622
Dude you have a solid drawing you obviously know something about drawing, just draw it and then post it. You hands are slightly too small and that is all I can see.

>>1613609
Why not also make the big guy more bulkier and dynamic while you are at it, he also looks disproportionate. You could also add more flow to the general composition.

thoughts on this?

>>1613630
Really bad shape design and no focal point.

>>1613623
Thanks, I'll try to draw sightly bigger hands next time.
The reason of why I haven't drawn the final pic yet is because I'm not sure about certain shapes of the muscles.
The head looks flat (which makes drawing a cap on it pretty hard) and the shoulders are too big. There's also something wrong with the pecs but I'm not sure what it is.
Also, it's impossible to draw the red scarf with that neck, so the Buddhist beads would be a good alternative but they look sorta strange.

Random drawings. I've been doing a lot of these during finals week to relax.

Moar

>>1613635
>>1613636
Nice, these would make perfect courtroom sketches.

>>1613631
noted. it is supposed to be a background with other stuff in it not just a landscape by itself. i just wanted some opinions on it before i went any further. thanks.

>>1613635
>>1613636
Love them!

Here is a flow-composition-scribble-sketch for a new one, dont know if i have the time though, xmas is coming. Also changing my name here while im at it.

>>1613491
The skin is off now. The speckled highlights plus glossy smoothness makes it look like lacquered metallic paint.

>>1613612
I've been trying to get the overall values of the entire image generally there, but I usually just jump into it which is probably pretty bad. I have been better about letting go of the first lines i lay down, and I used to just straight draw pretty much one thing at a time until they were done, so... baby steps.

This is really helpful, i think i get too caught up and into/inside the drawing after i start so now i'm realizing i need to step back and look at it as a whole more as i go along.
>>1613616
I think ill add some canvas on the left side and some up top so that the big guy isnt in the middle and so close to the top, and then ill be able to scoot the pillar to the left some.

Thanks gais!

>>1613646
I like the guys position, definitely accentuate that low angle and the puffy chest

>>1613491
the more you light it the more you show your lack of anatomical knowledge.

>>1613634
It's not impossible you just don't have the necessary internal visual library of the things you are attempting to convey and how they can/would/should sit on a frame. What I threw together is far from the ideal way of expressing it, but think about how far back the cap would have to sit to get over his eye ridges, think of it in three dimensional space. What is the angle of the brim? Could you use it to draw more focus to his eyes? Do you want a rounded cap or a more military style flat cap? With the more serious styling do you want to push his naval association? (dog tags, tattoos, etc) What other ways can a bandanna be wrapped around the neck besides the rolled up way in the ref? You aren't asking yourself the question you need to be asking and you are just assuming it won't work.

>>1613657
I guess you're right. The main issue with the scarf was that it would look way too big for a neck like that, and if I tried to reduce the size then it would look like it's choking him.
I should try to look for more resources to figure out a way to warp up that thing.
Thanks for clarifying the cap issue.
I'll try to figure out the shoulder issues later.

image just doesn't work at all lol

scrap it or pull through?

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>>1613559
thanks for the feedback

>>1613671
Nice rocks, is that what the pic is about? Because that's what it looks like at this point.

Unless you have a clear vision of what you're doing, you should try to get the whole image down roughly at the same time. Not paint the rocks while the character is nothing but a lineart sketch.

finished this recently

>>1613437
Damn, her bedroom looks comfy as fuck.

>>1613700
derrrrrrrrrrp

Just meet Loomis. What you guys think?

>>1613236
People told you from the beginning that the pose looks awkward and the balance isn't there. Glad to see you took all that on board and continued doing exactly the same thing. Hint: it doesn't look as if the little dude is supporting the woman's weight as his centre of gravity or axis hasn't been shifted to compensate.

>>1613453
That's fappable. Nice.
>>1613540
She looks Jewish.I.e. large ears, large mouth, nasal labial crease. Kind of like Anita Sarkeesian. If that was what you were going for, good job - you're probably aware she isn't conventionally attractive.
>>1613564
"They" use a decent palette and push the values, for a start! (wtf is a "spitpaint"?)
>>1613609
There's something uncomfortable about the relative sizes of the two figures.

>>1613664
I think you're exaggerating your difficulties when you're actually almost there. I can't see very much wrong with your anatomy - I'm guessing you're aiming for bearmode, pic related.

>>1613700
Good effort. Nice rendering and decent hair technique (electric eraser, or kneaded?). There's something a bit off about the eyes and face shape.

>>1613738
Really good.
>>1613750
Flipping heck, a Loomis head that doesn't look like ass. Good job,

>>1613491
>>1613596
>>1613649
>>1613656

>>1613765
just scrap it

>>1613646
I like it. It reads nice in the thumbnail.

Me again, what you think for my very first attemptt of a woman face - loomis style?

>>1613756
>Flipping heck, a Loomis head that doesn't look like ass. Good job,
Why, thank you.

>>1613765
Jeez, it's good. Call it finished and give it to him.

I'm making an illustration for my noobfolio (it's like a portfolio, except i don't show it to anyone).

When it comes to object placement, is that an OK composition? What should i change?

>>1613738
That ear looks way too small

>>1613738
electrifyin

>>1613778
Where should i push the values?

Yeah i know it's a slow board sorry for posting so much

>>1613784
That must be one huge dude and a massive sword.

>>1613752

I did change it eventually, I just didn't post it because I got bored with it so I stopped. It still looks dodgy

The window doesn't look sharp enough. Any way I can fix it?

>>1613753
Used Evangeline Lilly as a reference. Yeah, my purpose was to make a female face that's consistent but doesn't try to appeal by making her conventionally attractive.

>>1613797
contrast in values between the background and the window

how do I improve this drawing that I made earlier?

>>1613820
forgot image

2d attempt rendering furries
Reducing overall detail


Doing aight a bit better than last time

excuse me for being a flying faggot and selling my soul

>>1613502
>>1613483
Yeah the reflection is tricky. Currently defining bridge and middle house.

>>1613822
Jeesus Christ, that is horrifying! (and I even have a FA account)

>>1613815
I know it might be hard to critic this masterpiece, but please try to find a flaw.
Obviously it's almost perfect, but I feel like I could do even better if someone told me in which direction I should go

>>1613831

Tsk
I suppose its a good thing the guy im doing this for likes it
musnt study or artists errrrrrgggggggg

G-guys is my composition working?

Pls respond ;_;

>>1613842
her expression bugs me. i get that she might feel happy escaping, but it's more common to feel afraid when you are running away or at least gasping for air when you climb a mountain.
also, the cliff is looking pretty damn steep, she must have superhuman powers to climb like that without any gear.

>>1613842
you need to check the flow of the work again, flip it around.

Is that a better expression?

>>1613852
yeah i'll flip it and change some stuff too

a 30 min work
is there anything i need to work on in its early stage?

im not really going to use saturated colors since it ruins pretty much any piece of landscape work

Maybe I lack the basics for this, but I still hope to finish it.

(some photos are scrambled in the background)

>>1613815
das deep mang

>>1613868
ehh looks good better than noah bradleys stuff keep going.

if you can't work out the colors make it monochrome.

>>1613822
you still don't know how to draw. you need to hit the reset button and start from square one. swallow your pride ffs.

>>1613822
Looks like a fucking painted-over mummy.

Update on the knight piece, i need to learn to draw horses better

Anybody think they can redline my tiger paw? It's a really odd angle that is just not easy for some reason.

I'm getting there, but something is just not looking right yet.

>>1613896
you need to stop drawing generic crap

>>1613896
I liked parsakoira better

>>1613900
>tehmeh

>>1613912
This is why trips are a thing, but tehmeh dislikes them and welcomes any and all impersonators

>>1613916
I do indeed

>>1613900
Toppest of keks

>>1613868
Wow, your current skills are my goal.

>>1613826

Quick sketch

Had this idea of a guy in layered armor with lots of cloak n shit

might b cool

Hella boring though

>>1613956

do something different every now and then dude

>>1613959

HMm I sketched this spell caster ghost guy though I doubt that classifies as different.

Maybe some environments though for me thats like trying to make cake out of a bag of salt

>>1613898

So uh... no redline then?

>>1613962
nice style

>>1613959

Hows this for different

I had to think about what I was doing
Mad gay yo autopilot 4lyf

>>1613968
I don't know, maybe something other than warriors and generic medieval stuff?
I mean, you could at least try something colorful or draw something like a unique-looking character or animal or at least doing one of those crazy Jojo poses.
Just something at least creative should do the trick.

still learning how to into feathers, making progress.

All of these drawings look pretty unimaginative and muddy.
Not everything should be generic medieval warriors or boring landscapes.

>>1613969

I dig I dig

Ill uhh step out of my comfort zone see what happens

maybe a swamp monster hmm

>>1613975
A swamp monster is still generic.
Try to search for something unique and give it a twist of your own.

>>1613977


Okay swamp monster with the remnants of warriors sticking out of him perhaps even the kings crown resting atop his gooey head

h4h4h4h4 aight mang Ill think ill use my brain

>>1613973
Identify light source and block in the values first. There is no point in rendering strands at this stage.

I'm attempting face studies.

>>1613978
shieet man, already looks alot better, thanks a million man.

Should I make the primary a more natural light, and then have an artificial light as a secondary source?

>>1613983
use a harder brush, and remember to do some construction before you start.

>>1613873
fixed- the words on his pant leg in the right image were flipped so now you can reads

>>1613979

... how much time would you say you spend on each of these drawings?

Do you have any examples of finished work?

>>1613988
yeah the phone camera flips the image, it's not the mirror that does it. those idiots reminded me of /ic/

>>1613990

Those sketches like 20 mins a pop

If I finished something I would need alot of vyvanse

If I just sat down 10+ hours on a single image I could get something done
I usually hit a point where its either tedious rendering or something is urking me to all hell
Boring pose/colors ect
Refresh and restart

>>1613993

If you have a piece that you finished (or if you are working on one now that you plan to finish) upload it and tell me how much time you spent on it.

>>1613968
>>1613956
These reminds me to this sketch I made the other day, Try to use more contrast to get that metallic likeness

>>1613998
>the other day
More like last fucking week or something.
You've only posted it three dozen times.

>>1613256

I really should try to animate something, now that you say that.

Also, took a silhouette I drew weeks ago and finally tried to flesh it out some more. Thoughts on the color scheme? I don't know if I'm sold on it.

>>1613540

What I would say is to find one thing that's especially noticeable to you to emphasize for a caricature. If you exaggerate every detail and feature you get this cluttery mess. I realized I was doing the same thing when I started trying to draw exaggerated people.

>>1613998
Yes Firez, we saw it the first time you've posted it, you don't have to promote every single piece you made.

>>1613998


I'm more of a matte surface type of guy when it comes to armor I usually put off the crazy 0-10% value range for the final pass That color dodge and screen though

O right Umm I guess I can crit that image as I am an armor guy

Try to make sense of armor. Things looking cool is awesome, however there's a fine line between looking cool and making no sense.
Not gonna go into detail too much. Think of the helm Why is it split into sections(think why it make no sense). Youve got some biggass diablo horns which dont make sense with his body which is teeny weeny itsy bitsy. Giving the Idea that the helm would be a pain in the ass to hold up.

Other than that what makes armor somewhat difficult is 3d space and overall design complexity while staying in a reasonable area

at least thats some stuff that ive learned

Still getting around to the damn hipguards theyre a real pain in my ass

O another good rule is the law of three which I dont always do

Metal Leather Cloth
Cloth Skin Fur

Having three separate surfaces is good for later rendering to keep it interesting.

>>1613968

I've started trying to design warriors myself. What I did first was realize that armor can range from just cloth with a few leather patches and chainmail to entire metallic suits. History hasn't provided any rich examples to me, as there were trends were one army would style something and then others would adopt the same look (see: Hussars).

Depending on how fantastical you want it to be, a great way to spark inspiration is to look at an animal, a fish, or an insect, then imagine how those characteristics would translate to armor. It could be literal or you could make abstractions of those traits based on your view of them, what you think of that creature as being. For example, if you modeled a suit off a horse, you may give the helmet a comb that goes down to the back of their waist and an emphasis on the head and legs, and so on.

Just found this link on another board and had to post it. Enjoy your new references.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7rpz07bxsa1wpa4/TQzratuCCG

havent drawn anything for a week due to an exam paper that had to be written.. good god it feels great to just be able to sketch and chill again.

>>1614010
forgot the file...

>>1614009
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7rpz07bxsa1wpa4/TQzratuCCG


O BABY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTEfInwgxVs

Im walking straight to the bank with that gold mine

Hey /ic/ I'm bored an can't decide what I want to draw so I want you guys to decide for me!

Give me some ideas and I'll do my favourite one.

>>1614007
>O right Umm I guess I can crit that image as I am an armor guy
>Try to make sense of armor. Things looking cool is awesome, however there's a fine line between looking cool and making no sense.
>Not gonna go into detail too much. Think of the helm Why is it split into sections(think why it make no sense). Youve got some biggass diablo horns which dont make sense with his body which is teeny weeny itsy bitsy. Giving the Idea that the helm would be a pain in the ass to hold up.
>Other than that what makes armor somewhat difficult is 3d space and overall design complexity while staying in a reasonable area
>at least thats some stuff that ive learned
>Still getting around to the damn hipguards theyre a real pain in my ass
>O another good rule is the law of three which I dont always do
>Metal Leather Cloth
>Cloth Skin Fur
>Having three separate surfaces is good for later rendering to keep it interesting.

Cool, thanks!

I agree about the horns, I will try to scale them better if I ever use them again. some details are asymmetric on purpose though.

>>1613945

I'm calling it done for now.

>>1614016
>and I'll do my favourite one

There's your problem right there.

>>1614016

Take one of your favorite pieces of architecture and try to draw it as an entirely original animal/beast of some sort.

>>1614019
I don't see a problem

>>1614021
You're cherry picking the kind of drawings to suit your liking, and already you've just let everyone know you're going to do that so why bother giving you ideas just fucking draw.

>>1614016
>>1614021
>I'll do my favourite one.
Being picky about what you draw = Staying in the comfort zone
Staying in the comfort zone = No improvement at all

>>1614023
Prove it

>>1614023
Well I meant an idea that I liked, for example >>1614020
This is a fucking great idea that I never would have come up with or tried to do on my own.

I think you just misunderstood what I meant.

>>1614027
How can I prove what is basic logic? You improve by getting out of your comfort zone.
If you stay in the comfort zone then you'll never learn how to draw anything besides what you already know.

>>1614037
If you keep drawing people, you improve drawing people...sure he might not be able to draw other things properly, but he still improves ...?

>>1613375
I find it annoying how much FiRez posts or posted, but getting on him about every single little thing he does is even more annoying. Who gives a fuck if he wants to sign his shit. Stop being such a mad faggot.

>>1614040
You'll improve, but slowly and superficially.

And why would only being able to draw one thing even be okay?

>>1613776
yes, you're right. I can really feel the homo-lust emanating from it. If you were trying for his schlongus, mission accomplished.

>>1612886
>>1612940
That face was just so much fun. so much fun.

Finished

>>1613962
Hate to break this to you buddy, but like all cats, tigers have paws with 4 digits. The fifth one is vestigial and located higher up the forelimb.

>>1614068
Nigga, I'd like to have depressions like yours.

>>1614068

dark as fuck. calibrate your monitor or fucking lighten your mood a bit you depressed bastard.

and it's a shame because it's a beautiful piece

>>1613962
>>1613963

Whew. Done.

>>1614014
Nauseating furry style. Also the fur looks like feathers or leaves.

Some color practice with photoshup, how'd I do? I completely winged it. I'm mostly concerned about how I did rendering, but if there are any glaring anatomical mistakes I would like to hear about them as well.

>>1614073
see
>>1614070

This is why you should at least look at reference before starting a piece.

Just finished for the night, small and quick drawing

>>1614072
I dont need to calibrate a Dell UltraSharp U2711

>>1614068
I really didn't think you'd make the eyes that large. I thought the shape you had in the rougher versions was just heavy eye shadow and long lashes.

like 3rd scenery drawing in my life
was trying hard
buddies tell that i did alright, but i bet they fucking lie

>>1614081

Wow. You seem really upset about those toes. I'm here for you anon-kun. Your critique will not be wasted. Here; this took me about 10 minutes to fix. I hope you will be able to sleep tonight.

I love you sir.

just painted a bit more on it.

>>1614102
lol, dumbass. You fixed the back paws only. Your forms don't off well at all btw; those toes/ anatomy should be the least of your worries. draw some boxes in perspective

>>1614115

Here you go sweetness. Did anyone ever tell you you will catch more flies with honey? Really you could take my original posting and do a red line for me as that was what I asked for at the very beginning. It would be much more instructive. But I think we both know you have no real interest in helping anyone improve.

Would you mind showing me some of your work? I would really like to see what someone with such high standards can produce.

that little rock at the very front is so vulgar and ugly

>>1614120
Okay guy, he's trolling. No need to sperg out like a fucking idiot.

>>1614123
looks a lot like something Yun Ling did.

>>1614133

yeah it started as a study of that image. original title was yungliinspired.jpg but since i'm a huge faggot i tried to pass it off as entirely creative work.

yolo

i'm however only now starting to see why his image works and mine doesn't gonna fix some stuff

>>1614082
>small and quick
you mean, like your peepee?

>>1614082
>small and quick
you mean, like your peepee?

Me again. What you guys think?

>>1614136
thats bad anon, dont ever do that again, or ill find you

>>1614154

dat you yung?

>>1613738
sick, love the highlights

Daily spitpaint, Disability Robotics

>>1614182

give me your lunch money or i tell your mom you post on 4chan

>>1614187
See me care

>>1614010
feeling that feel at the moment too. Its a good feel

>>1614120
m-m-m-muh feelings

First post here on /ic/. Just drew this up while watching Nosferatu. It feels really flat to me. I'm having trouble conveying depth I think. There's probably other mistakes I'm not aware of too so lay it on me.

>>1614120

All criticism is useful, even if it's harsh. You would do well to put aside your feelings instead of wasting an opportunity to learn.

>>1613766
ok

>>1614213
does he have baby teeth irl?

>>1613442
just a question who in the name of FUCK is him?
don't recognize the character anywhere

>>1614268
Slippy Toad from Starfox

>>1614268
That's a Battletoad. Also, fix your fucking grammar.

Ofcourse he's eating her nose off, I totally meant that.

tried to take my study from >>1612239 and put her in a different pose with no reference to see how well I understand the pose and inventing my own lighting.

Well I guess I don't understand it very well. :( How long will it be before I stop sucking?

must not go into autoo pilllottt

GHUHHHHHHHHH

>>1613636
i came

>>1614182
really like the feeling of it. What brush settings and layer mode are you using? I'm really having trouble layering colors.

>>1614150
I think eyes are too large and mouth is a bit to the left. I can see the teal outlining you made is the right measurement, why did you displace them?

My (f)irst picture made from scratch.

Critique would be appreciated

>>1614409
Deviant.
Tumblr.
Portfolio Website.
Give me the links of yours.
Now.

How does my anatomy go, /ic/?