/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>1610253
shit.
there is nothing to critique if you are working from reference. just post when it's done.

First painting on tablet. Reference incoming

>>1610295

>>1610295
Down syndrome head.

>>1610299
Could you go into a bit more detail maybe?

>>1610295
Batman needs to find a new logo designer

Is there request thread?

>>1610253

>>1610295
You lost some of the form in translation, but the values and textures look okay. The background's composition is really boring and it doesn't compliment the figure at all. Plan the figure with accuracy in mind before you paint it and rethink the background

>>1610305
His eyebrows are invading his eye socket. Separate the shadow from the eyebrow and put a wrinkle on his forehead. Maybe put a small highlight in his left eye so it looks less dead.

>>1610359
Thanks for the feedback, with regards to to background i was trying to emulate JP Valderrama's style (Pic related).

>>1610378
Fuck, forgot pic

>>1610363
I did not realize it was so dramatic, the darkest areas around the eyes are actually shadows, really fucked that up.

>>1610378
>>1610382
The composition of that background is good. It has unity with the character in the splattered paint patterns. The color choice introduces a complimentary blue that balances out the red the warm reds and yellows. It also makes the image feel grounded, gives it depth and it flows with the figures gesture and orientation.

>>1610393
Guess ive got a long way to go then...

>>1610396
Not really. Understanding composition doesn't mean I can reproduce good composition at the drop of a hat. I've only started reading Eye of he Painter by Loomis from the sticky and its giving me a vocabulary for some of the things I already knew intuitively while bringing my attention to things I didn't notice.

5 minute composition sketch

>>1610431
>750x1000
Thumbnails. Thumbnails are where its at when it comes to composition.
http://muddycolors.blogspot.fi/2010/11/thumbnail.html

>>1610435
what are you doing. stop giving advice to better artists on things you don't know anything about. also lurk more.

Thoughts? ignore the little face down by his hip. Also, could this art style work in a serious story line?

>>1610437
>>1610445

Seriously, do you have a tumblr/deviant art/somewhere else I can find your stuff? I can't get enough of this.

>>1610445
awesome stuff!

>>1610442
Read the sticky

>>1610442
If cleaned up could make a comic yes

>>1610454
Wow, thanks a lot! I do have a tumblr, it's discogris.tumblr.com
>>1610456
Thank you!

>>1610435

Interesting blog. Thanks finnish guy/girl

>>1610461
Awesome. Followed, and dearly loved. Min Svenske bror.

>>1610465
Haha, tack bror

>>1610445
neat

cranked out some sketches this morning...

why so much concept art shit on this board?

I'm trying to learn sprite art. But, I suck. I suppose since I don't know how to do regular digital art. But, I don't want to do regular digital art as I just need art for my game.

How do I improve in sprite art?

I'm planning to put in 3-4 hours a day.

>>1610437
>>1610442
I see you've taken /ic/'s criticism and started getting into some anatomy, nice.

>>1610492
> I don't want to do regular digital art

This is why you suck. Why do you think you don't need foundations in art to do sprite art? Sprites are not a shortcut. Go read the sticky and practice.

>>1610489
boy, those colors are vivid

>>1610498

It not a shortcut. It just that I'm doing a 2D game. So that forces me to do pixel art.

So I need to get really good at this type of art.

Pic related I need art like this. But, I'm looking to produce better art.

>>1610492
Maybe this sight is helpful: http://www.pixeljoint.com/default.asp
They have a big tutorial section

>>1610502
I'm no pro at this but my first grasp is, that you need to be able to do something similar to >>1610489
to produce something like in your pic

>>1610506

But would I need to practice tradiational art to learn the fundamentals?

Like I would rather have shitty sprite art that I can include in the game, then doing digital art for 5 hours a day and I can't use it.

>>1610511
If your aiming for something that looks like Cave Story, then probably not.

>>1610505
>that unmoving pattern on her dress while rotating
Whatever style this is, I'm not particularly fond of it.

Happy Christmas time everyone.

>>1610525
inb4 furry
first time i ever drew an animal face on a human body

>>1610519
and yet the sleeve pattern doesn't move for some reason

>>1610529
>doesn't move
moves I mean.

>>1610519
I found that novelty charming, but its not the only style he's done.

Last one before I go to bed.

>>1610519
Chowder does this too, if you wanted to see more of that type of thing.

hey can you help me improve the balance of the pose of this caracter?

>>1610598
Is it just a pole or is there something in either end?

>>1610598
I can't imagine someone who is fighting adopting that stance because you almost can't move if you lock your knees.

>>1610617
Looks to me that the character is standing its ground with that pose and not planning to move another inch back

did this quick drawing to test out custom defined brushes in photoshop. no reference material

>>1610506
i actually like his painting way better than any of the thumbnails in that other post...

How can I not be so dependant on these thick black lines? The colours dont look right without em but i want to get that painterly look etc etc

>>1610639
paint over black lines. use tones to define volume.

Guys does chauncey still shit up this board? As well as that korean schizo?

>>1610611
I can't point it out but i have an uncanny feeling looking at this. It's really well done, but something uncomfortable for me.

Using a color palette, not sure if I like it.
Also I fucked up the body, the arms especially, I'm not sure how to fix it. Help pls

>>1610667
Probably because exaggerated features make the face have both masculine and feminine characteristics.

>>1610699
Huh, good one. You're probably right.

>>1610676
Try to do the pose yourself, it will help you a lot. I can tell you right now that you want to move his right shoulder almost all the way up to his ear.

a sketch for a new painting, this time only on one layer

some characters sketch, what do you guys think should I polish it more? is it portfolio worthy?
thanks.

>>1610699
artist here

I suppose personal preference comes into play into these over stylized types of drawings. I myself find your feminized version to be the odd one.

>>1610787
Anything more interesting could be done to the gasmask-man.

>>1610789

an artist on ic... now i've seen it all

>>1610782
Thank you

Why I can't blend? I'm using SAI and I tried brush, blend and blur but it's not working.

>>1610796
Use the airbrush on 10 opacity with the softest edge setting. Use the water brush too.

>>1610796
watercolor brush is all you need

>>1610802
>>1610801
What you guys think?

>>1610802
Unless I'm missing something, watercolor is a huge pain in the ass to work with. Can you post your settings? Mine does some weird shit when there's anything else on the layer.

Sketchin

Trying to find an image to work on

so far no dice

>>1610838
Literally how

>>1610519
Yeah, that rustled my jimmies too. I understand rotating the texture would be difficult, but why doesn't it follow her when she walks left and right?

>>1610842

How, as in how do I not want to work on any of these?

If thats the case eh not too interested in them. Just not hooked.

>>1610842
Looks like graphite no?

>>1610846
No I'm just that one guy who can't figure out how to paint and feels more and more perplexed every time he sees your works

>>1610560

>>1610851
How do I into english apparently. It's 11am and I haven't slept yet, sorry

>>1610598
As a suggestion, shift the weight to one of the legs. Very few martial arts stances use a completely central centre of gravity, especially not with both knees locked out. You'd just be asking to be pushed over backwards.

>>1610838
Which brush you use to blend?

>>1610598
the right leg seems to be going backwards and the left one forwards, but the position the feet end up in don't reflect that at all.

and in terms of balance, spreading you legs that much will automatically make for an unstable pose, especially if she's holding stuff too.

>>1610786
like it so far

long time lurker. first time poster. I think I'm at the point where /ic/ can help me.

>>1610904
LOOMIS

>>1610904
Why is his nose bleeding

>>1610917
Oh I know I was being a cheeky cunt. It's a stupid thing.

>>1610915
It's a tumblr thing.

For some scientifically unexplainable reason blood collects to the tip of their noses, so they draw noses red.

>>1610917
Haha, pretty much.

I feel like I made her look to old, still need to blend the face to make it smoother.

>>1610922
What do you use to blend?

>>1610834

>>1610928
Low Opacity Low Flow Round Brush

>>1610909
how is loomis going to make me a more competent digital painter?

>>1610938
>>1610943

kind of haunting.

>>1610937
>"How are basic drawing skills going to make me better at art?"

>>1610950

how is drilling the same rigid 1950's newspaper style going to teach me flow, characterisation, likeness, composition, colour theory, digital technique etc.

>>1610952
Loomis is magic. Read the sticky. Got gud gook fuggin fogot

>>1610952
>flow, characterisation, likeness, composition, colour theory,
All contained in Loomis books that I'm reading right now for free.
>digital technique
Easy shit that anyone can find online resources for.

>>1610972
You're learning abbreviated conventions. Even Loomis knew he isn't the definitive source on those topics. He advocated people broaden their horizon and find things on their own. All you're doing is waving around forgotten outdated books living in nostalgia land.

Read Creative Illustration page 19 start at the "If I am going to give you information of value..."

From Eye of the Painter page 14
"Let us assemble a whole stock of knowledge gleaned from the past and add newer concepts, and in turn join these to the concepts that will come out of the future. Let us give art the benefit of the techniques of scientific exploration. The scientist does not throw away a theory until it has been proved false or valueless. To condemn the past because it is not part of the present would be as short-sighted as to stick only to the past for the sake of tradition. It would be short-sighted not to be alert to any new truth to add to our stock."

critique?

>>1610991
sticky
you
read
now
it

>>1610952
You shouldn't worry about those to much when your drawing skills are shit.

Also Loomis is more of a term for 'go back to fundamentals. This also includes Vilppu, Hampton, etc.

>>1610991
His pose is too static. It looks awkward. Perhaps thumbnailing a bunch of gesture drawings would help you find the right pose.

Here's what I'm working on

>>1610991

It looks fine proportionally to me, but other than that there's really nothing to critique. It's very boring, but maybe it won't be after you've worked on it for more than 3 minutes

>>1610491

because it's the most technically and creatively demanding.

>>1610991
>>1611031
thumbnails. got it.it really helps. not sure wich one should i pick though
>>1611048
it actually took me like 10 min..guess i have to practice more

>>1611049
ROTFLOL

>>1611049
>most technically
oh hey, just a suggestion or indication is enough to show something, that's why all concept art is so rough looking. they use reference all the time, paint on top of photos all the time, use 3D software all the time, which is much easier than drawing, so no.
>creatively demanding
eh, recycled space marines, creatures, concepts isn't really creative, bro.

>>1611056

>first bullshit argument

not all concept art is rough looking. and for that that is, making something rough looking describe something accurately enough for your art director to accept it, takes a tremendous amount of skill. you try imitating jaime jones lose style and see how well you can describe something.

name a more technically demanding artistic discipline than concept art then and convince me that it is more technically demanding.

>second bullshit argument

i swear i have called you a low iq mongoloid retard way too many times on this board already. i'll just skip this one.

Upate from last night

>>1611058
>name technically demanding artistic discipline than concept art
Architecture
Industrial Design
Medical Illustration
Marble sculpting
Cinematography
Photography
Gourmet cooking

Concept art is for grown little boys that think vidyas is artz

>>1611058
one-man team animation

>>1611066
>photography

super lel

>>1611068
even studio photography requires more skill than concept art. anyone with time and patience can become a jaime johnson jackoff "artist"

>>1611069
>anyone with time and patience can become... an artist
I sure hope so!

>>1611071
Except you. You can't because you suck and waste all your time on /ic/ and take advice from /ic/. So, no.

>>1611065
There are some pretty major drawing errors in there. I know you actually can draw properly, so this is you just being lazy. Pretty much every feature on the face is out of perspective with the other features/head. It might be able to use a bit more skull at the top/back of the head too.

Anyways, it's really very early in the painting, so I guess that's all I an really say for now.

>>1611072
epic

>>1611074
thank you man, much appreciated, ill be giving an update shortly

>>1611058
>bullshit argument
the irony is strong with this one
aside from you being told by >>1611066, even editorial illustration is more creatively demanding and requires actual drawing skills than paintovers on photographs or 3D rendering.

>>1611066

agree with marble sculpting and cinematography, but they are really completely different sports. it's like saying animation is more technically demanding than comicbooks. strong low iq reasoning. why not throw quantum physics in there while you are at it. gourmet cooking? fucking lol what kind of retard are you

>>1611069

you can't seriously believe that, doesn't even come close. ... also, why are you even here then?

>>1611081

no it doesn't. yeah there's shitty concept art of low skilled dudes painting over photographs and 3d renderings, just like there's plenty of shitty editorial illustration. that's hardly an argument to prove that concept art is less technically demanding.

i've made this argument before (i'm sure it was you who i was arguing with back then)

craig mullins, jaime jones, etc could easily adapt any style and method of ANY editorial illustrator and replicate it without any trouble. the other way around, wouldn't work. pic related

>>1610982
You need to stop thinking and start loomis

>>1611087
an example to prove that i'm right. look at how shitty his lines are and there's barely any. if the editor wanted something rendered like that, he would hire a fashion photographer. editorial illustrators need to draw in style, something your concept shit artists can't do and that is a pathetic example.

>>1611093

i don't even

>>1611087
Concept art does not require a high degree of technical prowess, because the turnaround time is hectic. It's a rapid succession of sketches for brat production. Nothing fancy. And nobody is looking for anything refined, just general gist concept fleshed enough to work from. Why do think concept artist are a dime a dozen? It's not that hard to be a mullins masterbator. Concept Artist are to videogames and vfx as Abstract Expressionist are to the Fine Arts. Deal with it already d/ic/k sucker

Mini still life study for a larger piece. Anything in particular I should work on?

>>1611150

bad concept artists are a dime a dozen. just like with any profession that is not highly regulated. good concept artists are rare, and sought after. the high turnaround time only intensifies the importance of strong technical ability.

>>1611169
>the high turnaround time only intensifies the importance of strong technical ability.
Not really, you'd think so, but no. And let's not forget the people, like the producer, judging the shit aren't versed in the technical garbage. There is no need to be technically fancy, you just got to fake it well enough. And with the given audience it's easy. Just look at people like you, you think it's all intense and sophisticated, and probably play a shit load of vidyas.

>>1611153
Work on your lines, they could be neater.\
\you can't tell what's happening around the lid of the pot(?) because it's messy

Looking good though man, keep it up

I think im getting there

>>1611175
yeah its alright

>>1611170

ifi there's no need to be technically fancy why are the technically best, also the best paid? are you the guy who photoshops pictures of tanks and paints over them embarassingly badly? because if so i don't want to keep wasting my time talking to you lol. i think deathelm was your name.

i don't play any vidya, and i don't think it's sophisticated. i don't think video games are art. but they are an interesting, relatively new and promising medium of storytelling.

>>1611189
>technically best, also the best paid
1. They aren't paid a truck load of money
2. Most of it is just for show
3. You don't know what you're talking about.

All that glitters ain't gold. It's just you believing it.

>>1611200

why are the technically best, also the best paid?
>they arent paid a truck load of money

^ gj completely ignoring the question and making an unrelated statement mister low iq man

i'm fine with it not being gold. don't care about being a rockstar concept artist. just wanna get by decently doing a job i love.

/ic/ how do I man faces..Is there something Im missing or should I always refference Bruce Willis face.Can't help but feel im missing something and my dudes look girly as fuck.

I haven't drawn anything for over a year now and decided yesterday I wanted to try out Photoshop again.

I've not really used it as much as I'd have liked to, at least nothing beyond silly little scribbles sooooo, I'm feeling exceptionally amateur and crappy tonight, especially compared to some of you.

It's a portrait for a girl, although obviously I'm going to clothe her later.

What's your opinion on it so far and do you think she'll like it?

>>1611245
Are you including a coupon for eyebrow plucking? Because this picture heavilu suggests it.

>>1611264
*heavily

You also made her eyes look wrinkly.

You might be okay at drawing but boy, are you terrible in drawing gifts for girls.

>>1611264
>>1611265

And why would I do that? I think thicker eyebrows are very attractive and convey more expression, that and they're universally symbolic of youth.

I like to keep my own particularly thick as well.
Big eyebrow is best eyebrow.

>>1611245
are you drawing this with a mouse or something

>>1611266
If I gave you a picture of you, naked, with a really small penis, would you be happy?

Even if I told you I think small penises are attractive and cute?

>>1611286
girls like thick eyebrows. this is a girl drawing a portrait for a girl.

Drawing during class

>>1611282

Yes, sadly I don't own a tablet. Drawing with a mouse is really tricky.

>>1611286

Well, to begin with I'd probably be confused as to why you'd drawn me with a penis. The naked part I'd be totally cool with.

>>1611287

BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER
tbh I'm surprised he didn't realise earlier, my "drawing" is your standard stereoptypical gurl style.

Anyway, for reference, the girl I'm drawing.

>>1611291
yeah, it's kinda evident you don't have a tablet. fix your lines, especially the right outline of the face as you're looking at it and the hairline. The irises seem uneven, look into fixing them. and i think some light highlights on the eyebrows would help a lot. Her lips are also bothering me not sure how though... Also, i'd rework the contouring of the jaw, especially in relation to the shadows under it. And her hair is a lot greener than what you have but i assume this haircolour is temporary.

Overall it's pretty cute though! as a fellow grill I'd be pretty happy to receive it as a present, it's really cute.

>>1611297

Thanks, I appreciate the honest critique. It's good to have somebody else point these things out, I really wouldn't notice them alone x

>>1611291
btw i'm a grill.

>>1611300

pls be in Landan~*

>>1611291
>>1611300
oh! then your art looks really good!

>>1611305

>>1611291
I AM a girl. And every other girl I know would get offended if you drew her with wrinkly eyes and unkempt eyebrows. I know I would. Girls like thick eyebrows, yes, but not bushes.

today on IC: everyone is a girl.

i'm a girl too guys!

30 min painting

>>1611319
You don't understand the erotic beauty of a unibrow, like Freda did. Gtfo.

>>1611052
I think the strongest one is bottom middle.

>>1611329
Well, that's a nice 30 min painting. Do you plan to "fix" her nose or it's done?

Done this after watching the star wars trilogy for the first time...

>>1611338
well im not going to attempt to finish it, since its just me basically testing out some color theory and composition where the hair is 25% of the light, the skin is 85% and the cloths 50%. i wana get down on the fundamentals first before details

>>1611329
reminds me of...

>>1611232
Just pointing out your exaterated perception of concept artists. Way to go, miss reading between the lines, mister oblivous.

Working out an idea, just a rough sketch. Need some suggestions in regards to composition.

>>1611352
Whats the focal point in this?

>>1611340
I really like this.

>>1611323
Another girl here! Please tell me how good I am at art even though I haven't posted anything!

Gonna bring one of these to final. Which one do you guys prefer (or do you like neither)? Also if anyone has any good ref for the environment or design please link me.

>>1611551

>>1611551

beautiful

>>1611551
to much golden cum pass for me mate

red one is better bear. black one is better rider pose.

My Huion H610 arrived.

holy shit, this absolutely shits on wacom in every way shape and form. Stylus feels great, active surface is huge, and it was shit-tonnes cheaper than the nearest wacom equivalent.
Just thought I'd share.

quick dirty color practice on an even quicker an dirtier sketch

tryin to work out a color palette for the character design, but I'm not that great at it

quick dirty color practice on an even quicker an dirtier sketch

tryin to work out a color palette for the character design, but I'm not that great at it

Beginning paper-fag here, I just want to see what you guys might think.

>>1610946
>>1610943
>>1610938
2trend4me

found this from roughly a year ago. Gonna revisit it when I wake up.

>>1611566
It's shit, but don't get discouraged. Everyone starts as shit. Keep going.

>>1611593
Thanks. It's time to get practicing again then. :)

>>1611564
fixd shit head lightin shit to better imply shape or whatever

>>1611319

>Girls like thick eyebrows, yes, but not bushes

Thanks for taking up the great mantle of "women-everywhere spokesperson".
I know how much of a challenge it must be to make up pseudo facts based on your subjective preferences and then allocate those facts to every woman on the planet, but I just wanted you to know that you're doing a great job and we all appreciate how difficult the work it is and how obnoxious it requires you to be.

Picture related, it's my personal bushes that I as a woman, do not style in this way at all. Because obviously we all know that women hate thick eyebrows. Because you said so.

btw wrinkly eyes and thick eyebrows does not count as legitimate critique. You're supposed to be pointing out errors in anatomy, lighting, colour technique etc., not your own personal preference towards facial grooming.

>>1611625
Maybe slow down and paint some. Make him into simple 3d shapes.

Almost nothing is readable right now. There's some kingdom heartsy pants and some yellow pirate gloves, but other than that I'm honestly not sure what I'm looking at.

Don't crop the feet away. Even a teenager on paper should not make these mistakes, why make them on the computer where it's so easy to rescale or crop?

>>1611650
*her
Also was hella lazy an just went with first rough sketch, was mostly focusin on how not to make colors ass as I'm workin on a larger piece and still have no earthly idea how I want to color it.
And yeah, her design is a jumbled fuckin mess, probably gonna hafta drop the eyebrows.
Danke for the feedback, will put to future use :3

exploring styles and shit
so cartoon
much style

>>1611666

I love this.

>>1611667
thanks man, happy u like it

>>1611628
You can critique aesthetic quality; likeness (since he's referencing a real woman) and design choices can be up for criticism. The big eyebrows and wrinkly eyes might not be indicative of how she looks. They also might hurt the aesthetic quality of the picture by making it less pleasing to the eye.

Of course, you can argue "those are preferences relative to your being" so why critique at all? If someone determines something looks like X even though it actually looks like Y, can you really point it out as an error? Maybe to that person, they want it to look like X instead of Y.

>>1611291
I think you should represent the thinner/sparser part of the eyebrow with lighter color, not "hairy" lines.

Basically, it makes the difference between bold eyebrows (sexy) and hairy eyebrows (mannish).

Started a thing.

>>1611523
I understand how difficult it is for female artists to post their art in a troll-infested Patriarchal boys-space, but it's evident you're a brave soul and since all art is fantastic (just like all women are beautiful, even the fat pigs), your art is fantastic too!

Fem solidarity <3

>>1611697

omg another grill!

Who're your favourite artists?
I like Loish and Audrey Kawasaki! So inspiring!

>>1611566
Nice concept. Poor execution, mostly because you're a beginner.

Decide what style the heart is being drawn in (it looks like you kind of attempted a woodcut / anatomy textbook style, then chickened out a quarter of the way in). You should have left more space for the smoke too, and used reference of smoke instead of symbol-drawing fluffy clouds.

Sticky, Loomis, practice erryday. Welcome to /ic/.

>>1611585
You're... posting this in your sleep?

A wall renewal. I've posted like 50% of it in this thread already

>>1611628
Perhaps you damn snowflakes would like your own forum where you can compare vaginas to your hearts content?

When a man argues, he relates to facts, logic, rhetoric. When a woman argues, she makes it ALL ABOUT HER, because that's the most important thing in the fucking world.

>>1611666
Nice alternating-digit singles/dubs/trips.

I too like your picture.

>>1611566

Something I feel like I should add is in regards to the smoke. Next time you find yourself drawing it you ought to think about what smoke actually is, how it flows, what it's comprised of, how it's affecting by air currents etc.

It's tempting to think of it as a thick fuzzy cloud but try looking at plumes from cigarettes for example. It's smooth and flowing and transient.
Some good practice would be for you to revisit this piece and attempt the smoke whilst looking at it from a different angle.

Some good advice to try and remember when drawing is not to think in lines. If you look at the majority of pieces in this thread you'll probably notice that most are made up not of bold, stark lines but rather flowing splashes of colour. This is how you should draw your smoke.

>>1611703

We already have that, it's called Tumblr.

Also

>not realising that the person I'm arguing with also a woman

>>1611698
Oh, I dunno lol. Tracy Emin I guess. Also Marilyn Monro, she was an artist right? I don't really follow academic art since it's so male-dominated and phallocentric, and I prefer my style anyways. It's kinda anime/chibi with influences of Invader Zim and 80s/90s pop culture references. My favorite media are Hama beads and Crayola. Kind of random, but I guess I am too ^_^ squeee!

This thread has become shit.

>>1611708
>she's a gril btw
I know.

>>1611709

>Tracy Emin
>anime/chibi
>influences of Invader Zim
>^_^ squeee!

I can't outdo that.

>>1611709
die

please, die

>>1611709
10/10 post

>>1611391
cool to hear, thx

>>1610611
do you take commission work?

>>1610611
lily evangeline bad tracings

>>1611712
Feel free to contribute whenever.

>>1611701
and now that I'm awake, and no longer posting in my sleep, I'm gonna redo it.

I meant I was on my way to bed, and needed to sleep some before I get up in the morning.

>>1610796
Use the color picker. Don't airbrush. Use the color picker (alt key) to pick and mix tones. It makes mixing colors and value transitions so much easier.

>>1611243
If you don't want him to look like a disney prince/ johnny depp rip. Look at pictures of real sailors for reference. Get some wrinkles some dirt and skin texture and you should be looking a bit better.

>>1611360

Well, the focal point was the snow and dried grass, how it looks like sand dunes. I really don't know how to make the composition more interesting.

>>1611779
I'm no expert but I heard a landscape should have a foreground, mid-ground and background. Yours has a very indistinct background and foreground.

Your rendering of the snow is quite bad, there are dirty/muddy splodges everywhere. Use refs of snow to get the effect you want. I'd suggest going for a dazzling snow look, using plenty of the white of the paper. Maybe some settled snow on tree stumps or fenceposts in the foreground to reinforce that this is snow we're looking at. And do something interesting with the background and sky.

>>1611779
Texture and lighting can still make this satisfactory subject. Right now its just a bunch of blocked in values. Try redrawing it as an evening or early morning scene with colored pencils.

Someone linked a tablet guide some time ago but I lost it could someone please repost it? I can't decide between Bamboo and Intuos as my first tablet.

>>1611340
Has a nice vastness to it.
Good stuff.

>>1611340
may i ask why the lens flair? i think it makes images looks tacky as furak.

unless you can pull it off like dusso.. but that is very rare..

not hating btw im just generally curious. "

>>1611052
>>1611337
think that too though i dont know if is still going to be a spartan

tired of looking at it. Though I think it came out alright.

>>1611796
Thank you aswell ;)

>>1611799
I thought it would fit since the light gets directly in the viewers eye. Other than that it didn't really bother me, and helped the composition a bit.


Where is the design thread? :(

Hey /ic/ how do you into anatomy, I can't understand how you get to work with sprite. Particulary how you do hands when you do sprite art.

Look at this anatomy it is so bad. But, copying from porn picture isn't helping.

>>1611827

Like if you cloth the sprite i.e. like this the anatomy isn't seen so it doesn't look that bad.

>>1611819
nevermind, didn't like some parts. Touched it up a bit.

>>1611243
>>1611243
Hi where can I find the color wheel anon here is using? I had it on my laptop before it died and I cannot for the life of my remember where to get it.
>dont think it was exactly anons but any will do.

thanks

>>1611832
Any help?

>>1611803
update

>>1611837
I actually have slightly larger-than-average eyes, and a fair bit of meat on my cheeks and jowls, haha. But the forehead part was right, now that I look back in the mirror.

Stepping out for a smoke. I'll post another progress shortly.

>>1611848
Even larger than natural eyes are not that large unless your half anime character.
If you're that jowly you should be seeing some on the left as well as the right I think..?
If possible post a photo of yourself?

>>1611846
I don't get the joke...What does Legion Commander has to do with an owl ?
Or you just ripped off the design in hope that noone would notice ?

>>1611849
That is true. Went back and measured some things, and you were right! Alas.

I'll see if I can post a photo soon. My camera is with a friend, and I don't trust my phone.

>>1611852
There is no joke, sometimes requests get weird and I just do what people ask.

>>1611828
but, you can't see the anatomy when she's wearing a big ass coat

>>1610382
this is awesome but I wish his bum looked better

>>1611832
>>1611849
got yanked to starbucks by the roomie, so I had to take it here (read: lighting is fairly different).

But, it's as close to the same face as I could get.

>>1611874
I've already fixed some of the errors. I feel like I'm polishing a giant shit at this point.

Might just put it down and go to color study hour.

>>1611874
Your face is a lot slimmer than you seem to be seeing it.
And your hair is pretty amazeballs (is that a term kids use nowadays?)

Of all things your lips are more square and less heart shape than you drew them, focus on stuff like that and it should help make the picture look more like "you" (the eyes, the nose, the hair and the lips, the distinctive bits)

>>1611891
self image issues? Haha, I think you're right. It's coming along, I might abandon it in an hour to move on to other projects and studies.

Thanks for the hair tidbit. Amazeballs is something I've heard used, yes.

But yeah, I'll square up the lips, and see if I can at least accentuate the aspects that make me, me.

Thanks for all your help! I plan on doing a self portrait every second Tuesday to check progress on myself. Part of that regiment.

>>1611891
>>1611893
>amazeballs

fuck hands

>>1611893
>>1611891
welp, calling it. Thanks again. I'm setting it down and walking away.

Goofy reaction images of scary looking dogs aside, I'm happy with this, for now. I'll do another in 2 weeks, and see if I can trim time off the process.

I think I've improved the anatomy here.

Through it hard because there isn't any references to sprite anatomy at all.

>>1611899
It's pretty good, you've taken on the comments certainly and it looks a lot more like you here :)

The problem with doing self portraits is it can be kinda hard to look at yourself and analyse all the different bits without it getting warped by your own feelings like "My nose is way bigger, and I'm SURE my eyes are further apart"

Still going at it. Is the neck too long? Is the left shoulder too short? Is the head too wide?

>>1611901
>Through it hard because there isn't any references to sprite anatomy at all.

Its all the same, only sprite is pixelated and simplified >,<

>>1611910
Eyes look a bit TOO far apart, lips look tilted slightly, left elbow vs right elbow is kinda wtf, the top half is tilted/turned but the hips and stomach is straight on

>>1611910
The elbows and her right trapezius muscle don't look right.

>>1611913
>>1611913
>left elbow vs right elbow is kinda wtf

Well fuck, I didn't even notice that. Thanks guys, is this somewhat better? I'll fix it more later.

>>1611909
thank you, kind anon. I try to listen as best I can, and your critique and input was certainly genuine, concise and usable.

>>1611844
Really pay attention to the bending joints, particularly his elbow/foreshortened arm and his calf/knee. They're starting to look a little off.

And what's with the black lipstick?

I need to know how shit this is before I continue. Should I start over?

I had to invert the color because it was too light.

>>1611552
This one has a better composition. The background and snow feels more thought out in it, too.

>>1611931
Definitely tweak, dude.
Those lower bodies are different by miles.

>>1611931
Really quick 2 minute gesture, find the flow and then describe what forms are moving towards or away from you. Gesture comes first

>>1611931
This is something I like to do to help me get proportion and shape correct.
Try to find landmarks on the body that line up. If you can draw the triangle, or box or whatever shape you use, then you can draw the the rest of the figure around it.

>>1611540
cool shit bud

>>1611919
Left elbow is still kinda pointy and weird

Doodling and stuff. Any advice to make it better? Thanks~

hue

it's very likely broken beyond repair. I can't fucking see it, yet it looks bad from the thumbnail, and if it looks bad there it means there's something really wrong.

Gotta get sleep.

>>1611827
You need to work on fundamentals before you start doing stylised and heavily constrained stuff like pixel art.

>>1611846
That looks phenomenally awkward. I think you should have given it bird legs, or at least bird-jointed legs. As it is, it looks like some dude wearing a Haloween costume.

>>1611899
You drew yourself as Joaquin Phoenix when you actually look like Till Lindemann.

>>1611919
Elbows are better. I actually preferred the original eyes, they had character.

>>1611995
This is a good explanation.

>>1611720
yes
JEALOUS?

>>1611721
not tracings, but thanks for recognizing it's her

Thoughts on their designs? Anything I could do to make them even more one-of-a-kind? Yoshitaka Amano's work provided inspiration for the guy on the left and Toriyama for the guy on the right.

>>1612140
>One-of-a-kind

Lol.

First off, if you're trying to make your characters look one of a kind the last thing you should be doing is borrowing other people's styles. I clicked on the picture before I read your text and I thought they where for some sort of weird DBZ fancomic.

>>1612155

So you don't have anything to say at all, okay. Anyone else?

>>1612140
I'm afraid this anon >>1612155 is right. Lakritz looks a lot like Raditz

>>1612162

Yes, the eyes are familiar, that was my intent. However, Lakritz's overall proportions, including his facial proportions, should be enough to distinguish him from Raditz or any other character Toriyama's designed. So we've established what my designs look like. It's like my college classes all over again where almost every student did nothing but treat every non-representational project we did as Rorschach tests.

Is it really pulling teeth to ask for any potential issues you might have concerning their palettes, silhouettes or other details?

>>1612166
It looks kind of like you're ripping off Penny Arcade too.

>>1612166
you need to show more, style like that can work great if it's consistent but it's also employed by people that can't really draw but use some over stylized bs style to make it seem like they do

>>1612166
Well it looks like you failed, because he immediately stands out as some sort of crappy deviantart-tier Dragonball OC. Just suck it up and change the fucking eyes and he'll look fine. What's the point of adding Toriyama's style to your OC anyways? It just makes you look like a fucking lazy hack unless you're going for a parody character of some sort. I'm assuming he's for some sort of Webcomic, and I'm going to tell you you're making the common mistake of thinking your readers are retarded. I promise they WILL notice, and it's off-putting. Especially if you're going to whine about "Wahh, dis is muh ORIGINAL CHARACTER! THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, muh college professor said so!!11!"

>>1612140
learn 2 draw hands skrub

As much as looking at all of these excellent paintings should motivate me, it honestly makes me want to give up.
Seeing how far everyone has exceeded with art makes me not want to try. I feel like I only do good if I'm physically looking at something. I can draw anything I see.
I don't know.
Good stuff really un-motivates me.

I'm having trouble making the building not look like complete ass, is it a core design problem, or salvageable? Also, is there anyway I can push the grasses/plains farther in terms of detail, without it looking cheesy? I kind of came at these forms by accident, but the only thing I know to do when detailing land is to block color, texturize, adjust distance with 'volumetric fog' (to use the FZD term) and repeat

>>1610616
Uh, I'm no expert, but the way you've done your fog makes it look more like a blur, which is making your painting look really muddy. The rendering of the ship isn't terrible, but I'd try and bring everythign to a more even level of polish so it looks a bit more level. Also, you don't seem to have a good grasp of color, I would reccomend working in grayscale for sometime until you understand values better, and then moving into color once you have the fundamentals down :)

>>1610922
Work on you anatomy, and make the lights a bit softer (anatomy work will help with this), these harsh contrasts in light imply bulging manly muscles, making her look manly in turn. Also shes a bit bulky

Instead of doing half the image and asking for a red line can I just post my own starting framework so I can fix major issues BEFORE I get into shading?

>>1612121
yes and I want to hire you.

>>1612276
if you struggle to get the starting structure and anatomy down, shading and tone are the least of you're problems.

add the face's planes and other surface directions in and that will aid you in the shading/tone area

>>1612112
9/10 made me laugh. Residual self image, I suppose.

Ok, I was trying to draw some sex poses to focus in anatomy, but I was told it was wrong without further explanation
How can i fix it? I've edited it like 3 times and doesn't seem to get any better

>>1611899
have you heard about the teachings of Loomis fellow scholar?

Based loomis. One day with his book and I already can feel the difference.

n e body still here?

Reference was one of Giacometti's sculptures.
The camera skewed the values a little though.

Thoughts?

>>1612355
Ref

>>1612352
Not a fan of the bg composition with the buildings and stuff. Also what are the two main characters doing? What is the story, the point of the illustration?

You can draw well, now you just need to draw with more purpose.

>>1612352
This looks like it's coming along nicely. One thing I would say is that there's an odd tangent between the figures. They're silhouettes sort of lock in and flow with each other, making the distance between them hard to read. I hope I'm of some help.

>>1612380
>>1612382
They're supposed to have just barged in through that door, dunno if you can really see it yet, but yeah, they're supposed to be storming into a great hall of some sort and the guy on the right is wiping blood off his sword. I think i might move him more to the right and face him more to the left, hopefully that will separate him from the big guy.

also what should i do with the BG, should i just change the buildings or is it all fucked?

THX guys

Two sketcheroos

I need to tackle my narrative problem

Perhaps movies with "epic" shots will help me

>>1612396
Bottom one very sexy

>>1611861
That's the first thing that leapt out at me too. Surely an athletic/built guy should have better glutes? /fit/ has ruined me...

This is something I did a few months back in Photoshop

>>1612140
I can't make out what the design on the knight's cape is supposed to be, is it a face? Also get rid of the DBZ face as that's been done to death.

>>1611666
Looks good, d'you think you could push the highlights on the face just a tad more? I think it'll make the character look more alive if you do.

>>1611901
loomis

>>1611557
but anon, everything thats not WACOM or APPLE is SHIT because pros dont use it :^)

>>1610789
no, yours is definitely fucked up

same as >>1611288
would like some input

>>1612092
The first thing that strikes me, the perspective is different between the place she's sitting and herself.

>>1612465
>"my likes > your likes, therefore my likes = fact"

what's it like to still be a teen?

>>1612326

...

>>1612355
>>1612360
anyone??

what think?

>>1613031
She's a bit slim. I'd like a more serious concept, here's a reference.

>>1613038
ok, I think I can manage that

>>1612882
what's the point of drawing something like that?

>>1613177
>the point
???

>>1612729

How do you pick out colors/mix colors?

Right now I'm just taking palettes from other images that I like.