/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1600311
>thinking the back is your main problem here
The entire body is fucking awful. Start over.

what the fuck. go back and study, instead of drawing what you think is animu! also http://www.giyf.com/, shouldnt take a phd to find a photo of a scantily clad woman from the back on the internet.

>>1600311
draw the outline. If it doesn't look right don't think wasting at least an hour painting it will change anything.

>>1600595
>>1600606

And this is why no one likes to come here.


Looks like you just need to work on your spine curve. Right now it just looks straight without much curve. There's a line that shows a curve, but the scapulas are lacking majorly. Look at this one in particular.
>>1600609
There's a definite curve in her body, and you need to push that. Right now it looks stiff, and that's why you're having trouble with it.

The face also looks kind of flat, and looks more like a mask (unless that was your intent).

The upper legs are also a bit too long in comparison to the the lower legs.

The coloring/values could definitely use some blending,as right now it's just a bunch of sketchy lines.

I think you've got somewhat of a grasp with anatomy since you have your arm proportions alright, but you need to study more from life. The design is nice, but the execution needs more work.

I'd give this a D. I hope that helps out.

>>1601348
Value of critique is relative to the quality of work at hand. Otherwise, its pointless critiquing shit.

photoshop copyrigth internet 6 hours

>>1601367
I think it's better to tell people how to improve next time instead of just calling them shit.

>>1601382
This is a good example.

>>1601474
>tell people how to improve
Just fucking study, thats how you improve. I hate the fact that everyone posts their half ass shit here, while they know that its still shit. Like a million people who painted their first image in photoshop in like 30 mins before losing concentration and post it here asking for "critiques". When you know that something sucks, and you know why, whats the goddamn point of "critiques"??

I understand that asking for pointers to find the right way to go is a thing you need when you begin, but thats about all. The rest is study - boom, big surprise. The sticky has enough info to go from there.

I of course apologize if OP has seen people who look like what he drew, but if he can find the mistake himself, then correct it. (repeat this step as long as you cant find more 'mistakes'. then post here asking for advice)

Btw, my ranty post does not mean that OP being here sucks or that this has anything to do with him personally. What annoys me is just this general culture that has established itself here of "hi I drew something for the first time, critiques plz". NO, DO IT AGAIN 100 FUCKING TIMES UNTIL YOU CANT DO BETTER, THEN ASK FOR CRITIQUES.

Sry for the rant, this tendency here rustles my jimmies. Have a good day everyone.

>>1601478
I'll offer myself as an example of someone who will, invariably, at some point in the future post something here which I know is shit, which I know is not done or ready because of the magic of having drawn something, anything, really, without being graded or paid to do so.

In a sense, I can observe something psychological going on with me, as if I am looking for an external justification of doing something unrelated to my work or to money.
Last night, I drew a corner of a room and it looked bad and I still showed this drawing to my girlfriend.
This drawing serves no purpose other than practice and apparently I have issues with doing something only serving as practice, because drawing does not feel like learning at all.
It's weird to me.
Maybe some of the people posting their shit drawing here have a similar issue.

>>1601483

Just think of those drawings as nothing more than rungs of a ladder or steps. Don't focus on what you did, focus on what you're going to do next. They're faceless corpses and abominations that you don't have to show anyone, draw them, get rid of them and go on. Don't tie them to your self worth or ego.

Feeling like you fell short of your own expectations and wanting to be masterful or skilled within an unreasonable time frame will only cripple you.

http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/mastering-the-art-of-letting-go

The glove + weapon should weigh a lot, in which case her arm position would be impossible. The arm should be vertical.
Also, who stands like that with their legs?

>>1601485
How to recognize milestones then?
With varying degrees of skill, even among established artists, how does one decide on actual milestones if things invariably get thrown into the meat grinder?

Sound advice, yet not sane.
Polite sage.

>>1601485

>>1601478 here, thanks for jumping in, that's exactly how I approach my practices. Nice video btw, he really makes a point that's hardly ever adressed.

>>1601483
I know that feeling you're describig there, I've been there not too long ago: this sense of needing validation by showing your things to others, and hoping for positive responses.
But while that seems tempting, you're putting your already vulnerable self (in terms of art) into an even more vulnerable position: now people will possibly tell you negative things about this thing that represents your self-worth.

The trick to get out of this is to learn to distance yourself from it the very moment its finished (or as finished as you want it to be of course). The easiest way to do that is to do it a LOT. This way you lose your emotional investment to the single piece. (the other nice effect it has is of course that you get better quickly. While this is a pleasant effect of course, it is only a secondary one. (my tip: make this strategy your bitch, and soon you will be much better and much more self confident about your art (or any other thing you create for that matter)). Give it all you got while you're at it and try to make it the best thing ever - and then let go completely. (when others say it sucks you can just laugh and agree with them cause you have no emotional involvement with it anymore - and thats when you learn the most from looking at it!)

Trust me, it's an incredibly liberating way to get better.

>>1601526
Whoops, repeated myself a bit there while writing. Sorry for that.

>>1601517
There are no "milestones" - no sudden perfection. Improvement comes in very subtle steps. If you wanna see improvement put your drawings all into a box/folder that you don't necessarily look at. But when you look at the first one after a year you WILL see the improvement if you've given what you got to practicing you stuff.