/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1575884
You removed penis.com... That was a solid resource. I'll just toss up this (slightly) old thing to help get it started, my first drawing, which I still haven't colored.

Bump

>>1575890
perspective is off on the cat's snout. his face is pointing left, but his mouth is pointing forward. Eyes are pointing sorta partway in between i think.

>>1575964
You've pointed out a couple of its flaws. At the time I had in mind for him to be moving forward, but from that angle. The eyes are kind of looking to his right, though which was a mistake. But I've only been drawing for a week, so I was sort of okay with it, just trying to learn as much as I can from practice, understand and learn from the flaws pointed out in my work to fill in knowledge gaps and draw inspiration to do better, as well as indulge in resources offered, etc. Anything good about it? Am I gonna make it?

>>1575968
People don't generally come to /ic/ for compliments or pats on the back, generally you get harsh critique and advice on how to improve, so asking for that probably won't get you much.
It's decent for a first picture, keep practicing and studying and you'll get there.

>>1575981
Well, I appreciate that much, thank you.

Its unfinished. perhaps i could get some advice before i proceed. but p-peals m-ma ma style.

>>1575994
The only issue I see is with those fish eggs around her neck. What is it supposed to be, a pearl necklace?

>>1575997
Wow i cant find the fucking image on google. i wanted to original draw Jason Robards form the Ice man cometh. i found this lady and got distracted wile looking for a proper photo. I think they are pearls but they looked more metallic. i hope some one might know were this image came from. pleas post if ya do so i can save it. fuch me.

My family and friends have become worthless for critiquing, guess I need to make some artist friends...

What am I doing wrong? In which areas am I farther behind? Help me improve, /ic/. You've gotten me this far.

>>1575890
Don't colour it, draw another 100 of him in different positions using anatomy refs from animals similar to him, speedy ones. like 2 min each try to capture him in as few strokes as possible.

>>1576020
Well, for one, his eyes should perhaps be wider, while not necessarily longer.

>>1576022
Sounds good. Should I just look for photos and improvise the wings each time, draw from Youtube videos while limiting my times, and the like?

>>1576020
Go darker, dude. Maybe beef up the dude's arms a bit.

>>1576029
get ifranview this image viewer lets you set the interval after which photos change during a slideshow, then gather photos of animals that look like the thing you want to draw in one folder and practice 2 or 4 minute sketches of said animals using the slideshow built in ifranview - its free

>>1575994
thats pretty, I dont have any problems with the necklace.

Crit plz
It was a little rushed toward the end but I'm just done with it

>>1576058
the head of the big monster looks like it's from a different monster.
it also looks like it is doing this funny gesture where you communicate another person that you don't give a shit/wont answer his question.
the arms should be visible.

the rest looks good though. i like the perspective

I am really new to using color, but this was pretty quickly done any tips and tricks for sai? just cant get the textures i want out of it compared to ps

>>1576058
Cool, but the monster in the back should be a bit darker, more foreboding.

>>1576058
Yes i think the monster should be a bit darker also a fix on the face a bit this though would be a great alt art on the magic the gathering card Eternal darkness check it out

>>1576058
check it grayscale, value range on the ground, monster, mountains is exactly the same

>>1576070
I can totally see that now thank you. I was really trying to get that feel of him being so big and far away that he just gets lost in the atmosphere and smoke but I think I goofed/was too lazy to do arms etc.
>>1576073
>>1576078
I was definitely having trouble with the values. Should he be darker or lighter? or darker with less contrast? I know in daylight things get lighter and less contrasty as they get further away, does the same thing apply to this setting?
Thanks yall

Same guy that posted >>1575890, how about this one? It's still a WIP, I've been procrastinating on it. I kind of plan on restructuring the face a bit, dunno. It was mostly a muscle study in the form of a fanart. I was going for a mostly stylized appearance.

>>1576094
Ugh, why the hell did it eat the image?

Practicing more figures

eh?

>>1576058
cool, if you used more aerial perspective a bit more, for example placing sth more contrasty on the foreground it would make the big guy look bigger and farther away, or you could make him less contrasty and less saturated.

doing sort of a study of Sargent

Doing a bit of a colour/clothing study. Are my values alright? How about the folds?

>>1576160

draw the backtground first. this is vital in order to be able to see and judge your values and hues clearly and keep their relationships intact.

Need someone to point out flaws, mainly anatomy flaws. Don't feel like studying today.

>>1576075
this reminds me of dark souls.

>>1576167
Oh, wow, just noticed the darks were off! Thanks a bunch, mate!

What do, /ic/?

>>1576196


Please anon do not walk my path. There's all sorts of fuckery with that image and too much it at that. There's symbols everywhere. Anatomy problems in abundance and a slew of other issues.

Anon just please spending 90% of the time rendering really fucks up ones progress. Trust me mang.

First thing I would advise you would be the essence of flow and or gesture. After that proportion anatomy ect. Rendering lastly just put it off I know its fun but just put it off.

>>1576151
This is pretty cool. I like it channels three stream that form a triangle.

>>1576212
Let's give him some detail, though. I'll start with anatomy: her nose is too long, bridge might be long, she has no joints in her arms, her right hand has only four fingers (presumably missing the pinky), what fingers ARE there are too short, hands seem smallish, her clavicles are fused, the viewer could take or leave the SCM, she has no pectorals, her gait is awkward, her posture is stiff, there's nothing to indicate why she's standing that way.

C'mon broski, I'm just a babby drawer (a week, srsly) that can't into the wonderful world of painting yet, and even I can observe this stuff. I like her face, though.

>>1575884
Doing a sketch of a friend from work.

Need help deciding what I should so as a background around the figure.

>>1576228
ref

I'd do the plaid of the shirt, but I don't want to risk messing up my progress.

>>1576152
another sort of a study, sargent aswell- this time more of a speed ~40 min

>>1576226

It you point to directly whats wrong the interpreter will most if not always work on the thing pointed out. In my opinion its better to be vague as to whats wrong. That way to work on as they work on the idea of what being all rather than fragments of what is all. If you feel me.\

shiggigy diggigy?

>>1576244
Well, when you put it that way, I guess I shiggidy your diggidy. I should probably at least wait until they're inquisitive and open, if anything.

>>1576244
not any of the guys in question but I think I get the gist: better to get down and dirty with all the fundamentals than keep being stuck in polishing symbolic drawing.

Added color

>>1576241
I'm nitpicking but boost the back wall up to an almost pure white.

How does it look so far? Some parts are off, namely the height of the nose bridge. I intend to fix that. Anything else that you notice I could change to improve the likeness?

Also, I know I am going to get shit for posting another one of these, but I intend to fully finish this one. No more putting shit off. Thanks for any feedback that you many have!

P.S. Happy HalloweEEeeeEEn~

>>1576167
Couldn't agree with this even more than I already do. To make a point, imagine a still life with a table top and wall as the background; the subject of study a silver cup. At an atelier, the student would be instructed to paint everything around the cup; a couple of inches around the outline or so. This helps you to judge accurately because values and colors tend to be misread due to what is around them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White's_illusion

Local values!!!

>>1576263
Looks good from a quick glance, but what concerns me most is your method of rendering bits a pieces instead of generally laying in the local values on all the large areas divided by light and shadow. Dunno if that makes sense.

>>1576267
Yeah, I think I know what you are saying. I'm still trying to get better at making the whole thing come together rather than the individual features just looking stuck on or whatever.

>>1576263
>7 layers for a basic line drawing

What?! Why?!

>>1576182
Those are some bony shoulders and nonexistent trapezoids.

Had some fun doin' this.

>>1576286
When I do portraits like this one, I always do it with just red first, then when I have a majority of it done, I take the drawing, make it black, and put it on toned paper. Once I do that, I will add the highlights to give it more depth and thicken lines or add more darks or whatever I see would add to the image. One of the layers on that file in the screenshot is my red drawing turned to the black version, while the rest is me adding layers for the highlights I put in, or for darker lines. I do the changes in small "batches" or layers so I can hide/change the opacity of them to see if it adds to the image or takes away from it. I also like to be able to see the progress of the drawing. I like the drawing to look really clean, so I will often use a shit load of layers. The original red one has around 40 so far.

>>1576304
Easier to compare

>>1576306
Cool stuff man. I know you're working from photos that tend to be very bright and flattening, form wise, but have you tried to push the darks even darker so you can start pushing other forms like the roundness of the chin? Like, you have the top plane highlighted, but the bottom of the chin looks flat since there is no value change to show its roundness. If this is purely a style choice, it's super nice, but if you're studying value, don't be afraid to push it.

>>1576228
A response on this would be great, I want to give this to my friend hopefully this weekend.

started putting some colour over this sketch.
should i continue?
or is there a better way to make it look dull but with poppy colours.

>>1576228
spend more time plotting and measuring.
i suggest you start over.
scrap this one and re attempt.
treat it as a warm up.

you are drawing from a ref. there should be very little excuse for incorrect measuments.

grid it if you have to.
lossen up yor mark making.

>>1576339
I suppose I could redo some of it, I do see some mistakes here and there, but there is no way I'm starting over again. I already invested too much time into this, and I don't think it will be much better if I made a new one.

Thanks for the tip.

>>1576371
you should not be so fond of it.
it has MANY mistakes and MANY short-comings.

just because you have invested lots of time into it, doesnt make it any less shit.

do it again and you will see great improvement.

it looks as if you spent half an hour on it.

>>1576336
yes it looks great

i would say dont paint the sky though

>>1576231
your friend is sexy and i want him inside me

>>1576379
than you for response.
so you think i should compleate the buildings and leave the sky that cardboard colour?.
i think that is a good idea too

>>1576381
r u a grill

omigosh i finished a drawing

>>1576394
it's shit

>>1576094
"Going for a stylized appearance" before you know fundamentals is not going to get you anywhere. You're off to a good start, and since you said it's a study, (should do face studies too), you're on the right track. Continue doing them.

Okay so before I start doing anything I wanted to know how far away from my goal I am so I did this. My goal being able to paint fantasy characters from imagination. Obviously everything needs work, I have no idea how to approach hair and eyes yet for example (so ignore those for now) but I was wondering if you could give me a few pointers on the obvious beginner mistakes I do so I can try not to do them again

I've been doing gesture for a few months but no much progress there and I keep repeating the same mistakes and can't unlearn them so I figured I better not permanently fuck up painting as well and ask here before I even start properly

>>1576395
why? :C

>>1576411
As you described about the hair and eyes problem, I think you are not thinking in forms yet.
Imagine the hair strands as the shell of a cylinder, the eyes are not just a circle but a sphere, a ball and then you start blocking them as they were a cylinder or a ball, then adding more details.
I am still really bad at figures and gesture so I can't help you with it...

>>1576420
I find hair to be much easier to do with pencil on paper for some reason. I do have some trouble putting volume into hair and making believable haircuts in general from imagination but as I said, I'm not worried about that just yet. Eyeballs are fine but I can't figure out eyelids at all and drawing them from reference before only confused me more so I've been avoiding the subject for a while. Pupils as well, they turn out creepy as fuck and I'm not quite sure often how they work from a side view on the surface of the eyeball

And yet again eyes and hair are not the focus here

>>1576394
Cute. I think the highlights on the hair should have some harder edges though.

The shading on her skirt makes no sense in the middle, unless it's skin-tight.

>>1576423
A tip for digital paint: Work from dark to light. It makes everything infinitely easier when you're picking out forms and details.

>>1576453
In that particular attempt I followed >>1575430 as it was closest to the kind of system my previous digital painting attempts have been. How should I go about the process? Just start with a dark 'neutral grey' or something? It seems quite intuitive I guess, I'll definitely give it a shot. Now that the sticky is down does anyone have some good face resources?

I'm using GIMP so most photoshop (and sai) tutorial videos I have watched don't work quite the way I'd hope them to

my babies

Here's my current WIP, comments welcome.

hey wheres the jar babies drawing? I thought it was quite cool

>>1576020
his neck is really long. you've tried to obscure it with his xbawkx hueg traps, but try to imagine him with normal size traps and you'll see what I mean.

And yeah, he has teensy beady eyes.

>>1576257
ok, thx,

>>1576336
I really like this, it's pencil, right? or some funky paper texture?

>>1576152
>>1576241
another quicky ~1h30min, still after Sargent

>>1576399
Thanks. I'm probably not gonna do a muscular character again like that for awhile, but for the second thing I've ever drawn, I had some fun with it. Any gaps I should be filling in? I see you mentioned faces, so I plan to set some study time apart for that, in addition to, well, everything.

>>1576574
no offense but you are missing the entire point of doing a master study.

Try coping it exactly 100% down to every single brush stroke. you will learn so much more.

>>1576587
no offence taken, if thats the case I guess I'll do it... just tried to get my colours right, but yeah, I see your piont.

bump

Anything I should know about blending this?
What's a good brush for it?

>>1576676
Get your values right first.

>>1576294
BLEEEEEEEND

>>1576676
DOESN"T REALLY MATTEEEEEEER.

>>1576676
terrible where did you learn to paint school for ants?

>>1576684
>>1576687
>>1576688
I'm getting mixed signals here

>>1576420
What book is this?

>>1576689
Just do what you're going to do, dude. Maybe touch up some of the values, and fix the lighting of the floor before going at it.

>>1576696
Not him, but a beginner here. I don't understand how the hell you guys are able to notice 'mistakes'.

discover soessu

>>1576694
One of the famous artist course books. PDFs are on the internet.

>>1576550
Head is pretty big. Her left arm looks off perspective. I'm work on the gesture

>>1576419
not him, but

-you draw very flat. you don't think about how your character looks in 3 dimensions. there's no planes on her head, her hair is flatted drawn behind her head, her arms are very close in so that you don't have to bother drawing them in space, etc
-you have a horrid sense of anatomy, and any parts that aren't seen just disappear with no effect on anything else. ie her right hand isn't holding the severed arm, the top of severed arm's fingers just vanish around the neck, etc
-the skirt is drawn completely wrong, we wouldn't be seeing the forms (shadows) of her legs.
-shitty gradients

>>1576394
i like your lines a lot, but you really need to work on your colors/rendering. for example, red outline on blue isn't working too well.

>>1576745
I personally think it's pretty damn good. I agree it's flat, but that's typical of the anime style. (in b4 b-but his style!)

Only thing I agree with in your post is the skirt.

>the top of severed arm's fingers just vanish around the neck
Um, why would you expect the fingers to be pointing up where we could see them? The severed arm has no muscle control obviously, the fingers are limply hanging behind the palm.

>>1576708
Which is named....??

Started as a doodle, no reference used, but I had Resistance 2 and Independence Day in the back of my head as is clearly visible

>>1576866
Kind of reminds of that one Anon's other work, particularly that piece with the guy and that desert city in the background (according to the viewer's perspective).

>>1576525
>>1576025
>>1576034

I've always had problems with eyes. First they were too big, now they're too small... It's what I get for starting with animu instead of Loomis I suppose.

Anyways, I'll focus on proportions and contrast for a bit. Thanks fellows.

>>1576866
The most glaring problem is that your light source and shadows don't make sense.
The sun is setting on the horizon, yet is making a 12'oclock shadow over the city, with a sunset the shadow of that ship would be stretching much further and would probably not even show up in this shot.
Even from a sketch perspective, there is only 1 definitive form change and that's between the side and bottom of the ship when you clearly wanted to do more complex shapes, you need to define your values with crisp, sharp lines, use the lasso tool if you're struggling.
The next big problem is that this is meant to be in a sunset yet the sky fades into red rather than a nice blue/purple, so the oranges that typically define an interesting sunset can't show up properly, go look at pictures of sunsets/sunrises.
Lastly that ship is much much closer to the camera than the city, there's no atmospheric fog on it as it reaches upward, and theres no bounce light hitting the underside either, the ship is probably half a mile away, while the town is several miles in the distance.

Don't go too much further with polishing this, you need to do some photo and landscape studies first.

>>1576909

Thanks! I quickly made this in SketchUp to get the perspective and the shadows right

morning rogue came back on sunset

>>1576929
Good job, it's an order of magnitude better than the previous version.

>>1576916
Good idea

Heroic Character work in Progress, I skipped a few steps and now I'm dredging having to go back. Could use some help though on the positions of the arms, and the upper torso.

>>1576960
Anon why are you so afraid of using foreshortening? It feels like every character you make is blatantly floating in 2D space.

had a bad couple days of drawing.... i just feel like scrapping everything ~3 hours in.

this and...

...this

>>1576989
>>1576990
Second one's pretty cool, but the first is a bit drab.

>>1576574
its a pencil sketch that has been painted over in ps

>>1576990
>>1576989
thumbnails looked like guild wars 2 concept art

>>1576989
This one seems kinda full and stuffed. Composition needs some work
>>1576990
I like this one a lot better but it might work better without the third ship in the distance

wip

>>1576960
this is amazing. great work, anon.

>>1576452
thank you C :
her hair was shinier but then i realized shes undead so i toned it down...
and yes, i pretty much cheesed the skirt because it was late and i didnt know how to color it, how would you handle it?

>>1576751
thanks, i've never been too good at coloring, mostly because once im done with the sketch im already fed up with the process, which color would match better? i can change that pretty quickly

>>1576745
i do agree that it looks flat, that usually happens when i try to draw a front view : (
her arms are in that position because its cute, not because im lazy, although im not saying im not lazy.
>gradients :v

>>1576754
Thank you : 3
omg the skirt. i need help with that.

heres the lineart btw

>>1577282
You need to think about two things:
1) What is under the skirt, and how the folds of the skirt can define that. Are her legs straight? Is one pulling upward? Observe clothes in real life.
2) The material of the skirt. A skirt made of thinner, lighter material will have more folds. If it's a puffier, heavier skirt, it will have less.

>>1577282
I wish i had a girlfriend as cute as you

>>1577282
Jesus fucking christ drop the smilies

>>1577307
hmm
when i was drawing the skirt i wanted it to look fluffy but i couldnt pull it off...

>>1577308
why thank you : )

>>1577311
nah

trashy draws of two gay friends chara's bent to women cause I don't fuckin know

>>1577170
Looks okay from far away, but I really hope you tighten up your renderin

>>1577293
Really like the texture of this

>>1576394
Dynamicise your lines more (they're very borin, too thick to imply detail and too thin to have any flair), also, that is in no way how skirts work. You got da cell shades an gradient/hues down okay enough, just needa make it distinct. Water you doin that nobody else can quite pull off, make me want to look at this image again, make it memorable.

>>1577326
REALLY like this so far, but you needa clean up round da neck a bit, on the right side, it ain't readin so well, can't make heads or tails if his neck is just really wide and kinda gently wrinkly or if there's cloth on it (I can kinda tell it's supposed to be cloth, but it took a second, and I should be able to look at shit and instantly know what it's s'posed to be lest there be some reason for misdirection in your intent of the image.

>>1577326
cut that noise down, it adds nothing

>>1577346
I didn't save a psd and didn't realize how fucked the right side was until after ;_;. I didn't even realize that the neck didn't immediately register as cloth, I defiantly need to think about the viewer more. Maybe I should of lightened it up a bit and added extra texture there (some abstract shapes or something?).

>>1577354
But all the cool kids add noise, and I want to be just like them. (yea its way too much and looks shitty)

What do with background, I just slapped on some textures so it wasn't blank.
Critique is desperately wanted.

Been putting off painting w/o reference for way too long again.

This guy here (me) wonders if someone could correct his (mine) horrendous anatomy. Visual cues would be awesome.

A quick gesture and some lines. I think it is a good start.

>>1576488
Updated version

Here ya go

Kind of stuck here

>>1577376
The usual: study anatomy, use references etc. Also stay away from too many photoshop "tricks" (even if theymay look nice ;)) and focus more on the actual craft of drawing/painting for the moment. Keep it up, you'll make fast progress!

>>1577425
feels as if you just slapped on that hat

>>1577594
Pretty much, when i tried putting shadow under it, it made it feel like it was hovering over her head even more which bothered me, and I still wanted to keep the main focal point on the eyes.

>>1577346
This reminds me of what'shisname's work. Guy who does furry pr0nz.

>>1577376
Wings don't usually have strands of hair hanging from them, nor projecting out from them. Undefined/inaccurate wing anatomy is just a peeve if mine, I'm sure you won't receive as much shit for it from anyone else.

>>1577425
Hat looks pasted on, or like it's hovering over her head a few millimeters. The blue hue on her cheek needs to be blended and spread around, it just makes her cheek look flat, and kind of separates her jaw from the cheek.

>>1577425
Looks to me like her eyes are too high.

>>1577598
Focus on the hat, it should be moved ONTO her head, and perhaps hugging a bit to imply that it's actually on. Hats don't work like the great animoos depict. If the problem in the first place is that it didn't actually appear to be on her head, maybe you should've moved it so that it appeared to be on.

>>1576909
>>1576916
>>1576957

I worked a little longer on the SketchUp File and this is what I got. Before I start with the drawing I wanted to know what you guys thought of the composition of this one.

>>1577365
I really like this piece, can't think of anything to say about it other than it works, love all that space you left at the top to let it breathe.

>>1577376
For the style you seem to be goin for, I definitely suggest usin hella amounts of masks, keep errything nice an tidy. Also, yeah, keep work on the anatomy (both human an wing), you are gettin there friend.

>>1577385
I like it, I see how you're takin the light and only puttin the brights on the face in order to keep the compositional attention there, I actually kinda like the looseness of the rest of his body, tho I'd suggest cleanin up the neck an shoulder lines for silhouette's sake.

>>1577397
Work on implyin more of your lines and/or leavin more of the definition to shadin

>>1577398
Work on your perspective for the background. Also, dem tiddies are rotated a bit too far to the left (her left) of her ribcage.

>>1577425
Don't be afraid to go harder with your shading, her face lookin a bit too airbrushed and outta place compared to the rest of the rendering.

>>1577470
Faces, hands an how shoulders and necks connect to the ripcage, study up, other than that, interesting piece.

>>1577476
Clean up your renderin an make sure those glasses are sittin proper, they're always tricky to get an they feelin a bit wonky at the moment

>>1577508
Unless the the mausoleum above ground style coffin she's lyin on is severely tilting, it is way outta perspective with the background of the image. Also, look up graveyard references, specifically for the region you want the image to take place in, they all have different style tombstones and layouts (I read too much of Mike Mignola's work). As always, make sure you tighten up ur rendrin

>>1577602
P sure I'm not the only one who draws that ish. Unless that was a dig, sayin my work looks generic, in which case hah.

>>1577626
No, not a dig. The guy to whom I'm referring is a full time yiff artist.

>>1577626
Also, got any more like that?

>>1577621
If the top fin extends up I'd change to a vertical composition and just extend the top waaaaaay up to have the sky take up as much of the scene as the left is currently.

Is there any disadvantage to doing studies digitally rather than on paper?

>>1577679
thanks

>>1577676
yes electricity is used. non anon there is none.

>>1577674
Thanks but I already started.

Anyways, I'm noticing my incredible lack of knowledge about value. What the hell is wrong with it?

>>1577708
You're being cowardly and hanging around the midtones. Don't be afraid of your darks and lights.

>>1577708
fear anon. fear of the darkside. but i say embrace the dark side. use it to gain power. use it to dominate the world. it is the light that should be scarce not the dark.

>>1577640
Now I'm curious, the only person I know of who does things like this full time is Onta, and I never really felt my work looked too much like his

>>1577641
Not really? Unless they're a gift/commission for a close friend or like, HB/WB work, I don't really draw much of the yiffy.

>>1577708
>>1577715
>>1577716
This, this, this, always over do, work your way from the extreme to the center, that way you will always get full range, if you start work in the center, you'll be too afraid to push things to the limit to see how far you can take them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA

>>1577746
>Onta
>HB/WB work
I wasn't thinking Onta, but I had a feeling you were probably one of those guys. I won't throw out any particular names, with respect to your Anon status.

Sup, first time posting on /ic/
Also, first drawing ever on drawing tablet (bamboo)
I haven't really drawn much for 5 years, but I felt like I had to pick it up again.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I can only sketch in Illustrator, have no idea how to colour properly yet.

>>1576969
Not him, but kudos to anybody who can foreshorten from imagination.

>>1577769
Very nice. But the way the pen is hold looks weird.

>>1576866
damn just reminded me i could have went to a live demo of mike butkus doing some drawings for free today.. ehh ow well just add that to the pile of lifes ever growing regrets.

>>1577767

Work on line confidence, don't feather. Also, keep on dat monotanatomy

>>1577769
HEH, clever

>>1577775
Exaggeration is fun and extreme angles/foreshortening allows for that in a way that that doesn't break the brain when lookin at it (on the usual)

>>1577755
I actually don't work for either of those sites (yet, just tryin cause I could really use the extra income) so feel free to throw names out :3

>>1577793
Thanks
First thing that came to my mind too, I fucked up some layers though, so I kinda went with that 'style'

Starting to work on something new soon, but now I'm still learning all these things illustrator has to offer.

Are there any other drawing/painting programs you can recommend?

Also, what's monotanatomy?

>>1577796

The monotony of learning anatomy and/or tellin people to study it.

-I currently use clipstudio which is kinda like Painttool SAI 2.0 ($50).
-Photatoshop is the classic industry standard so it's always useful learnin how to use it (pirate that shit to learn at first, but if you ever start makin serious skrilla, buy that shit or else karma will fuck you, I'm not even fuckin round).
-There's also some new vector based painting program called Mischeif, it looks p interestin an it's cheap as well ($65), haven't tried it yet, but looks interestin: http://www.madewithmischief.com/

>>1577803
Aaah ok
Thanks for the tips, I'll make sure to look into that!

>>1577793
In that case, Gnaw?

>>1577808

Ah, I always liked his facial expressions and the intimacy he could get between multiple characters in an image (usually by drawin them disgustingly close) that you don't really see in a lot of smut. Also he draws really, really, really big... uh, ahem <w<

>>1577817
this post makes me really upset

There's something off with her face. Just can't put my finger on it.

(sweating profusely)

>>1577817
C'mon, is that you, dude?

>>1577820
Look out guys, he's getting upset.

>>1577834
Some cool, dynamic elements present in this image, just learn anatomy and how to not spaghetti your characters' extremities.

>>1577833
Lower her right eyebrow and eyelash so they fall in the perspective her head would be at with the angle you're renderin her neck/head connection. Also, remove that darker line you're tryin to use to define her jaw because at that angle, it should just be value defining it, made it the same mid tone as the rest of the neck shadow. Other than that, I really like it.

>>1577834
Her left thigh on the inside is connectin improperly to her hip/crotch. Also her musculature's a bit over da place. Also, she's about to fall backwards.

>>1577820
I'm... sorry??? ?

>>1577848
Nah, I'm not well known in da community, and that's rather how I like it. "Popufur" artists have to deal with a lot of weird shit I'd rather not.

>>1577848

Also, Gnaw is like almost twice my age, haha

>>1577859
I see. Well, I'm sure I could figure it out if'n I looked around enough. You got an FA?

>>1577899
Yupyup, but that's a secret, shhhh

>>1577385
nice!!

This is not the actual block-in yet, i just wanted to check if the skintone works.

And, quite frankly, i'm afraid it doesn't.

Do you guys know anything about skintones?

>>1577928
>tfw I will never have such amazing lineaer.

opinions on this, be honest i wanna get better and i'm only 17

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

here's another i'm working on, sorry for the shit quality

>>1577834

>>1577854
i tried to fix thigh to crotch.
i know my anatomy is faulty, i'm just doing my best here..

>>1577963
Lookin way better, friend, now check up on her right arm's bicep, it's way too far up on the upper arm, needs to be closer to the middle.

>>1577928
Goshdang, mang, downright gorgeous.

>>1577962
>>1577958
draw something other than tv characters
you got potential, but its lacking creativity

>>1577715
>>1577716
>>1577746

Thanks for the advice, I tried to push the values a bit and add detail from the 3D Model.
Is it better? Is it a good foundation for rendering?

what about this, i only really started drawing the figure

Guys, I am only 18.

>>1577958
but srsly, age doesn't matter, nobody cares.
Anyways, about the drawing: the subject matter is a bit boring (to me) and it looks like you shade by smudging, try to shade with crosshatching.

i didn't smudge i just used a mechanical pencil for that one, maybe it's the camera

>>1577905
Wait... Last shot in the dark, Dal'?

did a portrait you guys are always doing yes yes I know its dark as all hell. It's actually pretty nice laying some default ground work and going in on a second layer and just sloshing colors around. Nice n fast.


and numbuh 2 inc

Yes Yes I know there's clipping issues and the arms are awkward.

Tried to create and artificial lighting sequence. While using the sun to make him "pop" I guess like expression where there is none.

So far its fine.

my first photoshop work, 30 mins

wanted to try head construction and lighting with no reference

>>1576151
That's really imaginative. I can't believe the middle channel would flow so cleanly, seems to me the fluid would fan out across the wall unless it was going at high speed. Still, good job.

>>1576196
Looks like bad 90s videogame box art. Good rendering, crap construction.

>>1576394
So kawaii just like skullgirlz lelelel

>>1576579
Construction. Anatomy. Perspective.

FFS use reference if you're not sure what a cat looks like or what feathers look like. Nothing's more transparent and off-putting as when somebody has blatently just pulled features out of their ass.

>>1578096
Calm your tits dude, that's not a good way to go about critiquing someone that's only been drawing a fucking week.

>>1577170
Draw them fucking :)

Apple guy, where'd you go?

>>1578105
forgot to resize it

>>1578101
Maybe I was a bit harsh but those are the things he should practice. I wish I had somebody to tell me the same back when I was his level.

>>1577621
Much worse, you lost all the dynamism of your first shot by shrinking the ship down, now you have this big ugly square of empty space in the left and the image is just dead.

You also destroyed all of the ships negative space and interesting planes and turned it into more or less a floating cube.
The fact that those giant stair things are bigger than your city also kills your composition, you need to think in size contrasts between the various areas of your picture, the city and ship now look like childrens toys.

>>1576394
Go away you fucking autist

>>1578002
It looks pretty sexy, I think you should make the lighting make him pop more

>>1578105
>>1578109
>Come back
>Get eyes clawed out
Th-thanks... I guess I'll take what I can get. Sounds like you're referring particularly to the winged cat-- sucks, I thought I handled the feathers (on the right, anyway) pretty well. At least better than the ones some people slap on shitty weeb angels. Admittedly, no, I didn't use any references.
>Perspective
I though I handled at least that pretty well (sans the paw in the front). Anyway, thanks for critiquing. At least I still learned some stuff during and after the effort.

>>1578119
That's not even remotely correct usage.

>>1578130
Meant for
>>1578096

Ffs, my app keeps linking the wrong posts...

>rape me

>>1578116
Adding on to this, the horizon line and the city size were better in the first shot too, by raising the horizon line you lowered the cameras position in 3d space.
When the camera is high up in the air (say for example a helicopter), yet still below a hugeass object taking up 2/3rds of the screen it helps capture that sense of scale.

Go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHfJCvAPqlw but don't touch colour because you aren't ready yet.

>>1578119
>Autist
Back to ED with you.

>>1578136
nice piece, commencing rape

>>1578136
Are we supposed to believe that the big-ass creature crept up on the horseman unnoticed? If not, why isn't the man or the horse looking at it?

>>1577989
Dark, from the thumbnail, I'd ask for a bit more light, but once I see it at a larger size, it's really clean, neat rendering and everything reads p well. Still, it could stand to... er, well, stand out more from the background.

>>1578002
The rendering here is so, like, everything feels like it's out of focus, like it's good, just everything feels like I need to wipe my eyes/clean my glasses. Guess it just needs the renderin cleaned up, but man, I haven't seen anything like that in a while. Also, the tip of the hilt looks like a penis.

>>1578004
This piece is almost attractive in how it uses what one often associates with the mistakes beginners make with the digital medium contrasted by the raw understanding of fundamentals. I actually really like this.

>>1578090
That sure is a head, I like the blockiness to your colors, pretty good.

>>1578106
I love you, apple, why'd you ever leave me

>>1578119
pls leave

>>1578136
pls don't

>>1578142
You can't run from all of life's problems, but if you're lucky, you can with the monster.

>>1577989
I don't even honestly know who Dal' is, link?

>>1576256
A bit more rendering and you're golden.
Hah get it?
Golden.

>>1578148
Work on line confidence, that shadin feels really lazy, almost dodge and burn-esque, think about where your light source is comin from, uhhh, general anatomy studies would help a lot, best of luck~

>>1578136
Pretty awesome looking. The haunch on the creature looks kind of fat. Might want to work on bit; it stands out.

>>1578145
Dalehan. Last I can think of off the top of my head is TFD; if you're that guy or know of him, you'll recognize the acronym.

I'm almost positive I've seen ya', I'd just have to hunt around a bit to recall.

>>1578138
>>1578149
Never thought I would get /ic/'s approval within 8 months of taking things seriously. I half expected my asshole to be torn up. I'm a damn masochist.

Also, yeah, I'll work on that. Thanks anon.

Tryin' to come up with a mockup in PS before i start drawing, how can i make this composition not suck balls?
Has to include the head and the hallway, but i can't put the two together in a way that doesn't look like a bad floating head tier movie poster.

>>1578145
>I love you, apple, why'd you ever leave me

wat

Entering the home stretch with this one. If anyone has any thoughts on what I should watch or tips (particularly for rending piles of leaves, leaves in trees and reflective rivers) I'd love to hear 'em.

>>1578136
Wait, you and >>1578148 are the same artist?
Also, like >>1578152, the monster's back right leg doesn't read so clear, looks like belly fat, I'd suggest movin them up or droppin the bottom down a bit so we can see their foot so it's clear that's a limb.

>>1578159
I like apples

>>1578161
Really like the strong color scheme here, tighten up the rendrin and this be hella tight

>>1578153
Let me give you some context for how small I am, friend, I got less than 200 watchers (also, TFD ain't ringin any bells, tho I probably know them and I'm just forgettin)

>>1578149
That one was just a 15 minute thang, It'd be interesting to hear what you think about my more ~serious~ stuff. But you're already pretty spot-on.

>>1578167
Your caricature work is actually pretty interesting, but the shadin is still comin off mighty... not righty. Be more adventuress and blocky with it, don't just kinda shyly hint at how it should be, be BOLDDDDDDD

>>1578164
>less than 200 watchers
Well, you seem to prefer it that way (for now, anyway). I could think of a few that obscure. If'n it's not too much, you can e-mail it to me, I'd love to check out your gallery.

I'll provide e-mail just in case. If not, it's cool, I'll probably run across you at some point.

>>1578164
Ohh, no sorry, I didn't mean to quote you there. But thank you very much for the critique. I'll fix it.

>>1578156
My advice? give up

>>1577571
>>1577604
>>1577626
Thank you! I'll keep working on anatomy and use references more. I did this in paint tool SAI rather than photoshop, wish I had a decent one.

>>1578167
I'm back with some more interesting shadows?

Hey guys I'm Painting an onion and I was wondering if I could get any digital painting tips while its still unfinished. Thanks in advance.

Couldn't upload digital WIP because file was too large, so here are some studies from Thursday.

>>1578309

>>1578308

>>1578311
Let's try again.

.

comp so far

>>1578216
>pleb tier

>>1577928
dat form unf

can't sleep ;_;

>>1578502
You're tellin' me... Nice mountains(?), though lacking definition.

does this count? I've added a few details after I took this pic but I'm too lazy to take another one.

>>1578514
I've seen the image that's based off of before, but can't put my finger on it.

>>1578542
every shit/reddit water color ever?

>>1578151
dat pinky

>>1577958
AAHAAHA HA HAHAAHAHA
ahahaha
oh shit

>>1578514
>>1578542
it's fucking mirukawa. fuck sakes... aka alicejohnson

>>1578561
>>1577958
Based mods.

>>1578562
forgot pic. this i the only "almost" nude pic of her so people would go crazy about it.

>>1578566
all the shit ive seen people banned for or try to get banned for and this was the answer all along.

post a shitty as drawing of joker.

>>1578566
as a joke (i'm fucking 22 mods) in fucking /g/ i said I was 17 (a year below 18) purposely because some faggot was boasting how he was making 30k a year. I pretended to be 17 when I was making 13 an hour. Nigga... i got banned faster than getting banned in fotoforensics.for posting nudes

>>1578565
yeah this one. though I didn't know who she was. I just found the pic in my downloads for some reason.

>>1578566
yeah that's pretty much the fastest way to get banned. posting or linking illegal shit or say your 16. starting a "ban me thread" is just asking for attention

>>1578573
don't worry, everyone has a piece of aj in their harddrive for one reason or another

How am I doing for the use of colour? In the past, I've fucked up painting because I always went for darker tones for shadows, rather than going for a different colour altogether. So now, I'm trying to use blue for shadow instead of browns. It still looks a little muddy to me though.

>>1578565
>>1578562
... lol
We are having a lot of discussions about this person, aren't we? Can we please stop now? Seriously. I doubt anyone cares. I saw that artwork and thought "nice colors, but the jawline is weird". Didn't recognize anyone and I honestly don't care. I don't even know who it is, but I'm seeing her everywhere on /ic/ these past days.
Also, the chick is ugly.

>>1578514
still nikki... it's really good compared to the ones people post on her websites

>>1578578
honestly this is always how it starts. in every fucking thread. never fucking intentional...but someone posts something related to her. then bam it's a like a spiderman thread

>>1578578
finally, something constructive.

>>1578577
the sword seems awkwardly placed. i can't draw so yeah... this advice comes from a peasant tier

>>1578578
she's everywhere :\ b,g,mu,p,soc,adv,ck,o,k,ic

>>1578580
holy shit, I forgot to censor that one there. what do you mean by websites though? i'm lost

>>1578449
this is really cool. keep it b&w

>>1578465
another really good one.
i presume? you done or you're going to add more detail?

>>1578502
you drew this?

>>1578586
she has a da and vk where people upload their drawing of her to her. some of them looks creepy. well don't fret about the name. no harm there. still it's really good

>>1578514
That's a lovely shade of nail polish.
Also, your water color splatters are nice. Well placed, decent contrast.

>>1578590
the contents of the work is a bit awkward for my taste.

still nice draw....but you kinda messed up the right side .... the room is out of proportions and the tv is a bit weird.

>>1578585
Dunno, I only browse /fit/, /r9k/ and /ic/. I might have seen a picture or two, but in these last three days on /ic/ I learned more about this person than about DaVinci's life, for fuck's sake.

>>1578581
I noticed, hopefully it will die in a couple of days.

>>1578589
thanks. I usually get negative comments about the originality of the painting style but I appreciate this feedback.

>>1578590
how did her right arm penetrate the arm rest?

>>1578590
What fucking dimension is that table from?!

>>1578590
Your shading needs work. It's inconsistant with the lighting in the room, looks muddied in parts and something is seriously wrong with the table in the back room. The simplicity of the background really takes from the anatomy of the characters. Like how Jennifer's arm seems to just pass through the sofa somehow.

>>1578596
well if you're copying something it isn't so original now is it?

still concerning the mimicry, it's spot on. the added touch of splash of colors to make it less bland is apparent and well positioned. how long did it take you to make and did you draw or paint more of this person?

>>1578598
man I'm no artist but my critique was pretty spot on.

>>1578594
i'm mostly to blame as I used the photo to grab attention to my thread and concerns. grabbed the wrong type of attention and it's affected the whole board. I'm sorry.

>>1578599
I usually just get inspired by looking at pictures, I guess that's my problem here.

I think 1 1/2 hour. I don't really count the time I spend painting.

>>1578588
>keep it b&w
i appreciate the compliment but it might be foolish to keep it b&w. I certainly don't plan on going bananas with the colors though

>>1578625
i don't know. the simplicity of it and it speaks loudly to me. I mean it does need a bit more touch but... it speaks loud enough and space is just a empty, cold and lonely void

>>1577958
>made my day

>>1578577
>dildo sword/10

>>1578597
That whole room in the background appears to be from the land of the Frost Giants.

>>1578629
Well I wanted to make a sort of vertigo inducing scene of this meteor breaking apart. hopefully that's the part that's speaking to you anyways.

>>1578577
There's not a lot I can comment on from experience.

You feathered (some of?) the lines, rather than draw long, smooth, consistent strokes. Try drawing from the elbow if you're not confident in your linework, it'll improve your accuracy with practice.

The sword looks weird (I don't see the dildosword, personally), and I'm not too certain its positioning accounts well enough for the armor and mad traps that're back there. It also looks to be floating somewhat.

Sword's boring after the hilt, and just a lazy banana shape without any defining elements, like grooves or patterns in the metal.

Also, curse you (sans the actual cursing) for drawing a character whose visage is the spitting image of this one awful (mischievous and conniving) coworker I had a little under a year back.

>>1578514
If you weren't finished with it then why did you put your signature on it?

>>1578433
Damn man, you're getting really good at portraits. Is this from ref or imagination?

>>1578104
Lol, are you the same guy that told me to draw horses fucking anime girls like 4 or 5 draw threads ago?

>>1578597
Thanks, the table is too big for Darla, but fine for She-Hulk. Some things are out of perspective, but not too much.
>>1578595
That pose came in my head and I didn't want to change it, however her left arm must be in her shorts and this is what I came up with.
>>1578598
My colors need a lot of work to begin with, I also need to study some interiors.

didn't someone post this pic here recently?

well, now it's on the frontpage of reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1pszp7/i_have_painted_portrait_of_my_gf_for_her_birthday/

>>1578779
well noah bradely told him good work so his ego will never be deflated from this point on

>>1578779

i saw it on imgur half an hour ago. it's by wojtek fus, the dude who is super popular among (and founded some of) the main facebook digital art groups.

>>1578803
yeah he is good but i don't like him/

I actually don't like any artist that i didn't know about or who were unknown when i first started. to me they will always be second rate amatuers.

im looking at you noah bradley... cough cough

>>1578795
To tell you the truth, I find the people who have achieved a higher level of ability, aren't that terrible in ego. You can't become a better person without failing and losing your ego many times.

I say you don't need to worry about his ego. And you know what we should celebrate the fact that a painter gets some attention on the front page of reddit. Gets acknowledged by a fellow peer. This should invigorate you, your wording reeks of jealousy, even if you aren't. But you too can be the guy that gets some attention on a mainstream website. And love from your peers.

Let him have a little ego. Let him have this moment and to have him build up some confidence. We don't always have to be mousey, meek, modest, self-deprecating, self-destructive. That next painting he works on, feel free to bring him down a level. But in this scenario, just give him his congratulations.

>>1578813

i think that's a terrible attitude and mentality. you should really put more effort into judging artist by their work and not much else

>>1578130
Abusive anon here again.
>Admittedly, no, I didn't use any references.
No kidding. The feathers look like leaves, or petals. The cat has too many visible toes. Please, for your own good, use reference, at least the first few times you draw something new.
>I though I handled at least that pretty well
Well, you tried, which is commendable, but it's not very effective. Why is the wing in front of the foreshortened paw, and yet smaller than the other wing? Anyway dude, at least you're drawing, which is more than can be said for half of /ic/. Keep it up.

>>1578216
They're not really shadows since they don't darken the subject. More like a bluish light source.

I like it though.

>>1578449
Kind of a German Expressionist vibe there. Nice.

>>1578590
It reads as her offering the chick a beer, not requesting another. Emphasize the lightness of an empty beer by having her hold it in a dainty thumb-and-forefinger grip, maybe have the can slightly crumpled as well/

>>1578839
I gave up on it before finishing those feathers. Had I finished it, they would've more closely ascribed the proper aesthetic. I'm on the same page with you though, I've actually just borrowed a book on drawing bird and wing anatomy from a local library.

>Too many visible toes
Yeah, I looked at that afterward.

>Why is the wing in front of the foreshortened paw?
It was actually when I'd taken a good look at that I gave up on the piece entirely, I know I screwed the pooch on that one. Those wings are in two different states though, one being open the other being folded outward only slightly. It should have gone behind the leg,, and probably have just been redone. But, well, polishing a turd, and all that. Messing with it further just felt discouraging. Thanks for following up on it with me, Anon, your throughput's appreciated (and logged).

some guy passed away and had tons of leftover painting supplies at his house, so im painting stuff

don't know if i should continue this, I wanted to have something the persons in the foreground are looking at in the background and some strange persian archteture above the skies thingy going,..
something like scifi meets 1001 nightsdunno if i should continue now with rendering or improve the overall concept...

>>1577676
It just depends on the person. I'm more tactile, so I like to work on paper first. The only disadvantage I can think of is that working on the computer might make a beginner think his piece looks better than it actually does.

>>1578885
next basquiat fo sure, but you better get on that heroin so you can have an untimely death to help grossly overvalue your work

>>1578885
didn't know Lars Ulrich went on /ic/, neat.

>>1578866
duly noted
also, this is how bad I handle color

>>1578728
Thanks, I was afraid it was a bit too raw for posting and yes I'm using reference.

>>1578904
please just a quick comment, don't know if it's worth continueing

>>1578964
do you like it? continue
do you not? drop it

I was a bit bored and decided to sketch somethin up. It's far beyond my current skill to take to a rendered finish due to knowledge gaps.

I think If I were to find a similar pose and an abundance of arms and hands I might be able to. I feel like I could learn alot taking this to a finished state.

>>1578904
Looking good so far, definitely worth finishing it.

>>1578973
yes i like it but that also means i'm not looking at it objectivly anymore

>>1578909
Thanks, I wasn't sure if working and doing figure studies and such digitally would detriment me at all, I plan on moving digital eventually but wan't to get the most for my time.

can someone tell me whats off about the figure, theres something bugging me about the placement of the head doesnt look properly attached. my guess is maybe the boobs are too low? or something

>>1579012
fuck forgot to attach pic

can someone tell me whats off about the figure, theres something bugging me about the placement of the head doesnt look properly attached. my guess is maybe the boobs are too low? or something

>>1577385
you might want to consider pushing values harder, but v nice construction and value relationships.

>>1579015
Head is too big for one thing.

>>1579015
Head's too big, the entire thing looks copy+pasted onto the figure; the face doesn't mesh well, which is partly due to it facing the viewer, which looks unnatural and clashes with the torso's perspective. Also, that model has hands, where're your figure's hands?

>>1579015
Reallyreallyreally borin pose to ref, mang, go with somethin more excitin next time~