/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

yeah, no

>>1534296
You must be new here.

>>1534300
You must be cancer.

Why is there a new thread ?

>>1534310
because malignant

>>1534311
Like the last one was still on the third row in catalog... I don't think it was REALLY time to make a new one. :/

>>1534314
then ignore it, you can always hide a thread.

>>1534316
Why ignore it? I'm just saying it's strange and might be a waste to make a new one when the old one wasn't even going into archives yet. Just seems like 4chan common sense.

>>1534320
GTFO. Seriously, leave troll. Nobody is going to take your stupid bait. This is the only response you'll get.

>>1534323
No need to be butthurt. Geez.

so anthro is basically just - draw human body and plop animal head on it right?

never really seen the appeal of it. wet sweaty shiny skin is a lot or appleaing to me then fur

>>1534355
Why are you drawing this gross shit, Kyle? I had respect for you.

>>1534356
for moniez

I'm still on the fence about atm

>>1534357
Oh, good. If you get paid, that's alright.

>>1534356

I never understood the whole "Omg he drew something I don't like, RESPECT LOST" mentality. Some of my favorite artists occasionally draw things that are not my cup of tea, but I don't suddenly think they have committed some kind of crime nor do I think any less of them. Just seems kinda petty and juvenile to get that mad over what an artist decides to draw.

>>1534366
Who's mad? I just can't respect anyone that draws furry porn if it isn't for money.

whip

>>1534366

drawings reflect a state of mind. If you're sitting around drawing animals having sex all day, it reflect deep issues inside you. Use your fuckin head. It's beyond an 'appeal issue' and it's more like a 'you have mental issues' issue. You can't pull a 'stop liking things that I don't like argument here'. There is a deep and inherent problem with sexualizing animals and grade school girls. It reflects a sexual psychosis.

All anime looks the same. There is nothing creative about it. Unless you live in Japan and draw manga professionally, why even bother?

>>1534389
creativity is overrated

>>1534389
Someone make one of those /pol/ comics where anon tries to draw anime, gets made fun of, and then posts this on /ic/.

>>1534389
Hey it's cool as a hobby... I doubt anyone really wants to become a professional anime artist. Some just do it for fun for the love of the fandom.

>>1534389

>>1534392
>>1534395
>>1534396
>>1534398
Stop baiting, fucktards.

>>1534385
dude you forgot to call him a degenerate.

trolls nowadays...

>>1534396
I just don't understand the point of being sp derivative.

>>1534399
nice dubs :^)

>>1534401
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvd5JZkUXY

All im saying is that id rather be a shitty artist but have people be able to look at my work and know that it came from me than be a skilled artist whos work looks like everyone elses in that particular genre.

>>1534385
>sexual psychosis
I lol'd.
Get your shit together and stop giving pseudo-advice, faggot

>>1534412
>Calling any of that advice

way to defend your furrydom

>>1534389
It makes a neat little parlour trick or a stopgap on your way to realism.

>>1534378

Other than the pinky and the thumb of the left hand, looks breddy gud.

>>1534383

Hips and torso seem to be out of proportion, neck is a bit long and head also looks off.

>>1534413
>Imblying im into that

whoops, meant pseudo-diagnosis

"between studies"? Hahahaha I don't do no studies.

Have some Princess Kraehe.

>>1534422
yeeaah, that's why you are bad

>>1534389
Are you trying to say that all western art doesn't look the same? Because every western cartoon I see looks like a half assed mess that a five year old drew.

studies are not useful unless those studies will contribute towards a bigger project. Stop drawing arms for no reason 4chang.

>>1534427
No, im saying all art that tries to look the same looks the same.

>>1534427
Western Art has nothing to do with how modish Animu is. These Animu Threads however are about learning a complacency and a homogeneity with Animu. Which is why it all looks the same around here.

Every critique that is given in an Animu thread comes solely from the idea "staying on model". Every redline is about showing how off model you were. Every advice is about telling you how off model you were.

If you got pizazz in your drawings, you'll be a celebrity here, followed and copied--until the next pizazz comes along, or people get bored with your antics. These threads discourage active learning, and instead encourage propagandized a drawing process.

That's why it all looks the same here, at every level.

>>1534447
...

>>1534447
Congratulations, you just described the entire board.

>estonian
>blonde
u wot m8?

you guys argue about the stupidest things.

decided to ditch the anthro and go for goo

woop woop

>>1534487
>>1534487
I like dat ass. Now add a dick.

>>1534481
Lithuania please go, no need to be so jelly. Maps don't lie, after all.

>>1534355

both are pretty stupid although the pic looks good minus the arm/hand grabing the tail the forearm looks deformed horribly

>>1534487

The anthro was actually fine just some people can't contain their shit opinions

>>1534517
>Ponies
>Fine
Pick one

Huh, I come back to /ic/ and suddenly i see an anime and manga thread.

Not sure if /ic/ has become less circlejerky over realism or they're actually liking art in all forms for once.

>>1534534

These threads aren't accepted at all, just a bunch of relentless idiots that don't want to learn and continue to shit this place up making a fucking mockery of art,anatomy and Loomis in general

>>1534550
all i'm seeing right now are other failed artists who cant ignore what they dont like just cause it's another style.

>>1534487
as long as it was your decision

>>1534533
see the image in
>>1534366

so which five artist have had the most influence on your work

these are mine

>>1534560
Are you kylechickenleg dude?

>>1534550
This attitude is exactly why /ic/ is full of cancer.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU DRAW

>>1534567
>>1534567
Yes. How'd you know?

>>1534571
oh the ironing

So what happens if I deliberately want to draw somewhat off-model animu art as a nod to cheap PC-98 dating sims, glitch art and so-bad-it's-good 90s anime?
Is it automatically "generic" for being anime and also complete shit for not looking like animufag's waifus?

>>1534592
The trick is to be like Arkan and just not give a damn.

>>1534592
that's some awful glitch art tho

Fionna and Cake work in progress; is it any good?

>>1534597

no

>>1534592
>off-model

Different proportions or style choices does not make it "off-model." Not being able to draw them consistently makes one off-model. Not being able to draw from a variety of angles means the artist has no real understanding of form. Artists who can't do these things, who need to superficially copy from another drawing, are known as hacks. It is good to steer away from that.

>>1534598
Can I ask you why, good sir?

>>1534602
No perspecitve, no gesture, twisted limbs, no composition, lines are shit

don't wanna work on it anymore running through tons of mistake, I'll be good at render-fu one day...

>>1534592
90's anime besto besto besto

>>1534603
Nose and mouth are misplaced relative to the eyes and her right leg is gigantic compared to the left one

don't wanna work on it anymore into tons of problems.

>>1534592
90s anime besto besto besto

>>1534617
thx for pointing that out, that gave me a huge headache when I was drawing it back then until I realized my mistake of not first properly planning the drawing

here's another one, same character but different costume

>>1534615
Can I cut my wrists now, mr douche mcangrypants?

don't wanna work on it anymore, running into tons of problems.

>>1534592
90s anime besto besto besto

>>1534631
Only if you do that in "your style".

>>1534487
>>1534617

Very nice.

>>1534631
Feel free to do so if you want to avoid getting good

>>1534296
welcome back anon

>>1534642
Come on, don't talk shit, nobody told me how to get better, improve my drawings, or improve in general; that was only shitposting, and a very angry one if you ask me.

>>1534647
keep spinning your wheels retard.

>>1534647
>that was only shitposting, and a very angry one if you ask me
Critique =/= shitposting
If you don't want to know what you are doing wrong and improve upon those aspects, this is a wrong place for you to post your works. Check out the sticky, it will get you started. Practice perspective and gesture first, nail those two and you have a solid foundation to build your skills on

>>1534487
Jelly of your coloring, man!

>seewhatIdidthere?

>>1534293

Shinokawa fellers

>>1534661
Do you have an archive of all your drawings? I personally love the witty remarks and the character itself it's perhaps the most adorable troll I have ever seen.

>>1534652
See
>>1534598
Valid critique, really...

On the other hand, I'm still practicing gestures and perspective, I'm doing studies, but that isn't a study, I don't really need more complex gesture, but I feel that the perspective and some limbs are off, maybe some redlines could help me?

>>1534672
Well he answered to the question stated in the original post. Practicing gesture doesn't mean you need more complex gesture. I really don't think you have learned any gesture or perspective whatsoever judging by >>1534597

Keep practicing with basic stuff and try to construct the body from 3d objects and pick up an easier point of view that doesn't require foreshortening right off the bat. Watch some vilppu when it comes to gestures and try to get rid of the stiffness

How does one start drawing "anime" after learning how to draw the traditional human body and its features for a long time?

>>1534699
Body is the same everywhere really. It's just the face that's different, but there's logic to it, just study animu faces and you'll get it.

Try having some kind of "water color" "transparent" style .
Really sucks

>>1534699
It's a matter of stylization and exaggerating proportions, essentially. Obvious points: squished faces, widened facial features, females have longer legs and even more volume in the obvious places (hips, bust, thighs), males proportions are pretty much the same.

>>1534699
>>1534706
>>1534714

I have been trying to put two and two together from my references and stylize them for some time now but I have yet to successfully draw a full figured Animu character.

I tried to change the proportions of the head only but I found out that it was either too small or it did not fit well with the body...I think I have been focusing on stylizing the head too much. Any thoughts on how to simplify the body? Apologies in advance for the hairy lines.

>>1534711
I love it.

>>1534506
Situ pähkleid orav. That's how lithuanian I am.

>>1534560
Somehow I am not surprised in any way.

>>1534684
This is another work of mine, I'm still practicing...
What about it?

>>1534730
it's utter shit. learn to crawl before you try to drive an F1

>>1534737
In what aspect is utter shit?
That's what I am interested in, not in fuckin metaphors man, I'm studying anatomy and know how to draw construction lines, not professionally, but I try, tell me how to get better if you want me to get better dude.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and shitpost criticism, learn it.

>>1534730
The foreshortening of the left leg looks off. Don't se much shading in the clothes to makes him pop more to add dimension. It has good composition overall just those minor anatomy problems hold you back a bit. Hope that helps.

>>1534765
so saucy for someone who sucks at drawing eh

The eyes are still looking flat aren't they? I will eventually get them right.

>>1534730
The cloth is poorly drawn. Too many short, choppy lines everywhere. Too many straight lines. Please work on depicting cloth and making it look better.

The pose is also off. The arms are large compared to the head, as if they're being held forward, but they're shaded and angled in such a way as though they're being held straight up, creating visual dissonance.

Likewise, the legs just look weird. It's difficult to tell what's going on there, and the way the cloth shorts are folded only creates additional conflicts.

One step towards fixing it is to move his feet down and straighten out the legs a little bit. But there's really much more to be done.

Also if the sun is coming from the back left, you'd better introduce some dark values on the things that are facing away from it. But of course, get the pose right before you do that.

>>1534781
The eyes are looking way too far apart, is how they're looking. Unless he's supposed to be a downy.

>>1534788
Here I go and miss the big picture for the details again. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>1534487
Nice work, but she could look a bit gooier. Right now she looks like a blue-skinned person.
More hard-edged "glistening" highlights, transparency effects (like showing the contour of the hips through her ass, which is supposedly translucent), having more dripping / gooey features instead of having such a coherent form, etc.

Depends on your idea of what a goo girl is, I suppose, but I reckon a gooier looking girl is a better option.

>>1534711
The reason it doesn't look watercolor-y is because your edges are too soft.
Watercolors have low opacity, but fairly hard edges.

>>1534784
>>1534769

Thanks guys, really helpfull, I'll try to improve myself and my works, and to make cloth better (it's so hard, I guess I should look for references).

>>1534777
If you say so mister.

>>1534730

>>1534844
>Dat last panel

>>1534844
You kick so much ass it hurts

>>1534844
You are a scholar, and a gentleman. Thank you this is what I am trying to achieve when I try to draw a gesture.

>>1534844
Wow you completely dismissed the composition. Can you ever give an unbiased critique?

>>1534865
>Art
>unbiased
Pick ONE

>>1534633
worked on it more, really done this time.

>>1534866
I pick: "I can see through your bullshit, and mediocre advice"

>>1534865
>>1534868
If you can do better then lead by example.

>>1534865
You got something helpful, what the hell are you bitching about?

>>1534871
>>1534879
I am giving an example of not being tricked into swallowing your bullshit. That's how I'm helpful, by questioning integrity of the critique.

>>1534881
It's not bullshit. His composition is entirely legit and doesn't differ too much from the original.

If you take the bait you deserve to have your thread derailed.

>>1534887
Not really, Anons here are just so...passionate when it comes to matters like these it's only a heated debate about an instructional drawing and its methods used is all :3

>>1534886
Not the anon you're replying to, but it's true that he changed the composition. The terrible original figure was jumping toward us and the image was supposed to be some kind of cover (I guess, from the title at least). Teal changed it into a solid constructed figure jumping somewhere to the left, which would not be as good for a cover.
I think.

>>1534891
but if you read the text you can reapply the lessons in whatever compositional scheme you choose. it's not meant to be a complete redraw.

>>1534881
If it deviates on any part that wasn't questioned, it's automatically not a critique, it's a "you should've done this instead". So it's not legit.

>>1534897
Not really. If you notice, once again, Teal use "perspective" as a catch-all to talk about positioning the figure, distortion, overlapping and composition. But he quickly dismisses all of that in showboating the use of cross contours to emphasize the direction of the limbs, totally downplaying the fisheye like distortion the drawing was attempting to use as a part of its composition..

Did he give a cool drawing? Yes.
Did he actually look at what the original drawing was trying to do, and argue with that? FUCK NO.

Teal's readlines are the shining examples of telling you, that you were off model.

Keep pissing in the wind. Implying that moron will take that redline and learn anything. He can't draw primitives in perspective and has no clue anatomically.

Learn to crawl wsr

These thread seem specifically geared to derailing/slowing the learning process.

These threads seem specifically geared to derailing/slowing the learning process.

>>1534887
If you keep calling everything bait, you deserve not learn anything here.

Leave troll, this ain't your fishing-hole

>>1534922
>that's the troll

>>1534867
the edge around her check could be softer, right now her face looks blocky. also the colors could be more lively. I like it doe

What do you think about this faces /ic/, are they bad? must I go back and practice more loomis?. What is the major flaw you see in them?

>>1534765

Your problem is that you are getting way ahead of yourself. You shouldn't be jumping right into extreme poses like the last 2 pieces of art you showed us... ESPECIALLY with this one >>1534597 when it's very obvious you don't know perspective or construction.
With >>1534730 you are jumping right into coloring when your drawings are sloppy, not to mention the clothes shading makes no sense and it looks just like a default brush with multiply turned on and scribbled everywhere. Its like how most of the people on Deviantart who jump right into photoshop before they even know how to hold a stylus. Perhaps you should be practicing in a sketchbook doing basic shapes, composition, line, construction ect. ect. before going right into fanart.

Secondly, your attitude sucks. Sure,
>>1534615 Was blunt with you but he wasn't wrong. You go on and on about your "studies" and "practicing" but when it comes down to it your work shows little evidence of said study, and obvious mistakes. You get all defensive and it shows, this is probably why people are getting annoyed with you when you are begging to be spoonfed basic info like this example:
>tell me how to get better if you want me to get better dude.

Knock that shit off. There are others here who post without blabbing on about how much studies they have done nor give attitude and show much better work than you. Furthermore, this isn't tumblr, nobody cares about your feelings or history. Lastly saying stuff like:
>You are a scholar, and a gentleman.
Makes you sound like a retarded highschooler that still spouts shit such as "LIKE A BOSS" as if its the pinnacle of internet humor.

>>1534952
you sir have hurt my feelings

;_; thanks for turning my nostalgia up to 11

>>1534994
Not particularily in the faces themselves, but your jaws do all look very similar, both on the more masuculine and feminine models. Perhaps change it up for different faces? ex. A tougher-type guy might have a more square jaw? It gives your charecters more personality, and you don't have to exaggurate the jaws either, which would make your designs look more western style.

>>1534994
>must I go back and practice more loomis?

Not Loomis necessarily, but practicing and honing your shape drawing and understanding of structure is never-ending.

You've drawn a few random faces of different characters, so your consistency is not tested. The heads are not shown in many different perspectives, and you tackle none of the hard ones. There's too much mirroring in the eyes. The expressions are limited, and none of the eyes are looking away from the viewer.

Your limitations are clear from what you choose to omit. Ask yourself why, and if you're honest, you should know your weaknesses.

>>1535013
>Knock that shit off.

W-We can kiss whoever we want :3

>>1535023
I never notice that, thank you for pointing that out, I'II keep it in mind

>>1535031
OK, I will practice other kinds of perspectives and try to learn to do expressions.

When you are doings faces in diferent angles and with different expression is better always use the same face?

>>1534994

Other than what previously mentioned, you need to work on neck thickness. In anime/manga, female necks tend to be thinner. Neck placement for anime/manga is a bitch to get right, though...

Do you people draw anime because it quenches a sexist beliefs? Or is it just an addiction used as an escape?

did a partial study of a print from /hr/, and did some other things in the same vein. good fun if nothing else.

>>>/hr/1883046 if anyone wants to have a look.

>>1534560
mainly this guy.

>>1534560
I guess this is kind of cool.

>>1534560
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=2999346
and shirow miwa

>>1534952
thanks for the crit, I realize I have weak edge knowledge while painting it, gonna brush on it.

>>1535178
>that pic
I never found out the full story about that girl

Crits/advice? Especially on how to make the lines prettier.

>>1535219
Also, I have a feeling I should've stopped at this point.

>>1535220
it's pretty ugly. i'd advise for you to work on da proportions. also, the left leg is way too thin.
neck too long and shoulders too wide.

>>1535219
Reminds me of Mahou Shoujo somehow. Must be the tits.

>>1535223
You're right about the shoulders and the arm is also sorta wrong. I think the leg and the neck are okay though.

>>1535226
no, from that angle, there should not be a thigh gap, yo.

>>1534560
askray is rónly one i can stand out of those. at least he only draws dicks, without all the other ridiculous bullshit.

>>1534718
THX~~

>>1534804
Thx~ I didn't recognize this.

>>1534699
Got this problem bro......
The body is ok...
But I can't too anime head. I just can't imagine a flat face and I suck of anime face proportion .
So I would draw something like Korean game.......

>>1535219
>>1535220
Traced.
http://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3308899

>>1535257
ha ha ha ha....

BUSTED!

>>1535257
>anime thread
>wheel spinning retards
Pick 2

>>1535257
heavily referenced at best.

retarded, but not extremely retarded.

>>1535273

>>1534560

>>1535257
Nope, didn't trace it, just used a ref. Here's rough sketch as proof. You guys are weird though. First you tell me all my proportions are all wrong, then you tell me I copied those proportions. I don't even know anymore.

>>1535273
Huh, that explains why the shoulder looked weird.

>>1535299
I'm sorry, just remembered that pic, when fapped in the morning.

>>1535299
>unoriginal

You had reference and you couldn't make the linework better? You couldn't copy the linework as well?

>>1535308
What

Sometimes I think the people here are literal retards

>>1535308
>Hey guys look at my drawing is it okay?
>THAT LEFT LEG IS TOO SMALL. UGLY.
>HEY WAIT A MINUTE THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING I FAPPED TO
>FUCKING TRACER COPYCAT!! HAHAHAHA BUSTED
>Oh. You didn't trace? Uh...
>THAT LINEWORK IS SHIT. Why didn't you just copy what you saw after all?! Terrible! Unoriginal! Crap!
Welp, looks like the rest of /ic/ was right. Never taking what anyone says in anime/manga threads seriously again.

>>1535319
>HEY WAIT A MINUTE THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING I FAPPED TO

I lost it right there. Oh /ic/ don't even change :3

>>1535323
ever*

Opinions?

>>1535326
Overall fine
face a bit strange , not sure if this a style.
Also, not too anime, better ask in draw thread

I am not familiar with this kind of "commercial illustration" style

>>1535326
ignoring how incredibly annoying I find this to be, her skirt and legs get lost and maybe it shouldn't be as flat as you made it. Those hearts and text with the dark shadows come forward more than they should.

>>1535326
uguu~

>>1535326
The colors and the uguu~ are nice.
About the style, not a fan of the stick limbs. The face reminds me of Betty Boop, so maybe trying out anatomy like that could look nice, if you want to.
I agree with the text issue. Also the bunnies having shine in their eyes and the flat stare of the bear are weird, stick to one.

>>1535326
>>1535326
heh cute

>>1535319
damn you are butthurt.
and maybe you should realize that /ic/ isn't one person.

and no i'm not any of those anons, first post in a while in here.

>>1535411
>butthurt
What? I just made an observation on how shitty the posters ITT are. Everyone else on /ic/ unanimously agrees that these threads are not a good thing, but whatever.

Is this okay? I'm still practicing

>>1535429
I wish I had that innocence again, I can't finish anything anymore because I see my mistakes and discard it.

>>1535429
It's an okay start.
The head and hands drag down the picture. Practice those more and keep the eye distance in mind.

>>1535437
I get that too, but I found that finishing a picture makes me feel better, even if there are really embarrassing errors in it. Just try to see them as spots to improve on for the next picture.

Dis anyone save that pretty stylized image of sketches of girls? Pointy shoulders, sharkteeth, long limbs.

>>1535426
Ton't even joke about it. you lashed back because people called out that trace.
Then you proceeded to group /ic/ into one person that somehow really cares about your shit.
Really, i don't even know (or care about) what to think of this. It's just kinda...weak.
I can see what you were trying to do. It was pretty much a study of sorts, but you sold it like it was your own piece when it was just a study. And you lashing out like a little DA kid doesn't help your cause either.

Also it doesn't mean that the other image doesn't have any problems.

>>1535445
what
I'm not even the artist, that "lol never taking /ic/ seriously again" post was my very first ITT. What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>1535326

Cute, and the style and colors fit, but my problem is that the drawing is hard to read because it seems that everything is at the same depth. In other words, the foreground and background all seem to be grouped together which makes things confusing and flat. It took me a while to understand how she was sitting. Something as simple as changing the lighting would make things look much better.

>>1535450
Oh well, good job on making him look bad then.
It doesn't get any worse than >>1535319
Get the fuck out already.

>>1535455
How did I "make him look bad" when you're the one who assumed I was him?
Someone's asspained.

>>1535458
because all you did was defend him, wether you are him or not.
and you did it like an idiot.

>>1535464
>defend
No, I just pointed out the faggotry in this thread, which you're contributing very adamantly to.

>>1535467
you cried about how the others did him wrong.
and then you cried about how you'll never come here again, as if anyone cares.
you reacted exactly like an asspained DA kid would do on /ic/.
of course i'll assume you're that guy. honestly, i still think you are.

quick sketch
Not so anime at all........

>>1535470
I never "cried" and I never said I'd "never come here again". I said I'd never take these threads seriously again. If anything, you're the one crying and accusing me of being the artist because I pointed out the rampant retardation.
Are you autistic or something?

>>1535476
keep crying

Just a thing..

>>1535437
>>1535443
Wow so many feels stirring up right now I wonder where the kind Anon is who redlined this for me, it was one of the very first redlines. I hope I thanked them.

I can't believe I was proud of this among many other terrible drawings.

>>1535479
Are you talking to yourself? Okay

>>1535480
Stop posting that in all the boards you visit

>>1535479
>typing out angry tl;dr messages accusing poster of being the artist because they made fun of you
>"keep crying fgt go back to DA kiddie! not even mad, your just weak.. fuck u get out >:("
Confirmed for autistic

>>1535483
I only posted that once. On /r9k/.
What are you talking about, anon

>>1535481
WOW !!
I can remember the miku on the right!!
How long ago , one year?? right??

Your improvement is so significant

>>1535486
>>1535482
oh wow you just keep going.

>>1535489
It was seven months ago from this date I believe.

>>1535493
WOW~
This is really unbelievable!
I can remember at that time I think 1535481 is simply a retard troll who will never take drawing serious but I was wrong

>>1535490
Why are you still responding if I'm supposed to be the butthurt "DA kid"? One of those anons isn't even me.
Go on though, you're fun

>>1535494
mhmm I started from the very bottom of the barrel didn't I :3

Still at the bottom, though.

>>1535498
you are obviously riled up.
look at my last two posts, i stopped giving a shit when i realized you would keep replying. and you still do.
go on and post another funny reaction image.

Is this alright?

>>1535505
>i stopped giving a shit
And yet you keep responding.
ok pal I believe you, Im the one whos riled up.
Sure showed me

>>1535514
>Im the one whos riled up.
you obviously are.

>>1535525
>you obviously are
Sure I am. Please tell me more about my buttravagedness.

itt mikufag spergs out

>>1535506
Too flat. And ya fucked up the background.

>>1535527
do i need to? because you should know.

>>1535538
Wow you just keep going on and on.
Are you that desperate to prove to me how much you don't give a shit?

>>1535551
hey there, i said this long before you did. >1535490

>>1535532
B-but it's not I who is arguing, if it where me I would of ignored it the second I realized it would be pointless.

>>1535569
You don't own sentences in the English language, I'm afraid.

>>1535326
>>1535429
Do either of you have a pixiv/da/tumblr? I really like that kind of style.

Jannie pls

How do I not suck?

I'm concerned with proportions, as I tend to suck at those. He head is deliberately large, but I don't know if it's throwing me off everything else.

Oh how I wish I could make my lines and drawings seem to jump out of the screen with gesture like those Disney artists.

>>1535580
Do the same as everyone else and draw gesture and get rid of chickenscratching. Then make sure you understand perspective before moving on to anatomy

>>1535582
Draw some real deer before you copy the disney bambi sketch book

>>1535583
(Okay, I know how to not suck and I'm working on it religiously, but I'm also in a hurry to finish a project and I want to know if /ic/ can point out the largest, most glaring mistake I've just committed so that I can spend the next couple of hours fixing it.)

>>1535589
Want to join me, dear Anon?

>>1535591
I could I don't see why not

>>1535594
Okay, still at work right now so I might take a while to post but I found a reference already

>>1535598
>White tailed
>Mule
>Water deer
>Pudu
>Mouse Deer
Choose your favourite

>>1535601
Mouse deer was the most interesting, I'll give it a go.

Here's a thread challenge for those who feel up for it..

Draw an asian, a white and a black character in stylized mode. Make them look distinct and different.
Semi-realistic is fine too

>>1535601
B-b-but what about muh roe deer?

>>1535611
I5got sorry Anon

>>1535257
I was just looking at that on gelbooru.

If you're going to trace you could at least find more obscure drawings, get with it people.

>>1534844

that was really helpful, thanks!

I apologize for the gigantic head, the poor lighting, the light sketching, and bad photograph of this drawing.

>>1535668
>I'm sorry I did art.
Better luck next time.

>>1535668

Uh, shouldn't this be posted in the sketchbook thread and not the animu thread? Also, I can barley tell what I am looking at.

>>1535668
Here is where I am at, still at work right now and had some customer complain that "whaaaaa my a/c stopped working after you touched it!"

Basically told them to go away :3

>>1535673
It's something between me and Miku

>>1535674
>"whaaaaa my a/c stopped working after you touched it!"
Are they autistic or some shit? It just doesn't work that way.

My webcam is just as unfaithful as my camera.

>>1535674
>>1535680

What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Jesus, is this a DeviantArt personal blog?

>>1535684
Because I would of finished or have been close to finishing by now if it weren't for those meddling customers.

>>1535688

>Wahh, it's everyone else's fault its unfinished!

Or how about you post something that is finished or even worthwhile instead of a sketch and a pile of excuses and useless commentary? Nobody cares about your personal life. Also, if you are working do your damn job and stop blaming the customer for interfering with your sketches.

Christ, its like I'm really on tumblr.

>>1535694
Y-yes sir.

>>1535578
Oh you didn't here? Jannie got busted for playing favorites.

>>1535709
*hear

>>1535608

>>1535684
no, it's a place where we complain sporadically about everything.

>>1535712
Mouths are skewed on the right two. Eye sockets look like they're too far in on them too. Shading of chin for the on in the middle looks pointless. If that's suppose to be a beard then: nope.

>>1535712
I love how the third one from the left reminds me of spike.

>>1535608

>>1535727
>Americans
>White

>>1535608
here's a better one, draw persians/syrians/middle easterns, and indians that look their ethnicity in stylized mode

sum thighs

>>1535780
Your knees looks like some kind of horrible monster beast. You should study the anatomy of the knee, mostly bones and muscle. You have a firm grip on form, but that is definitely not what the anatomy of a knee should be represented as, study or not. got reference to post?

>>1535782
dunno, that's they look like in the ref i'm using.

>>1535735
Syriafag here.

Just wanna correct yer species:
Arabs* Middleeasterns* Indians*


Also, challenge accepted, bitch.

>>1535801
They don't, actually. Flip both your picture and the reference, maybe you can see the difference. You aren't sticking to anatomy, your knees look thick, fat and unnatural - the reference does have thick thighs, but they're not as lumpy.

You're better than I am, so I don't know that I can tell you exactly what's wrong - but they don't look natural to me.

You might be overdoing the form a bit with the light/shadow making them pop more than they really do, but that's the best guess I've got.

I could use some advice on an image edit. My talents don't extend much beyond moving picture elements and adjusting levels, but I try.
Here's the original. I'm not wrong in that Ichigo's jawline makes no sense, right?

>>1535808
And here's where I'm at. It seems to look better to my untrained eye, but I really don't know anything about perspective or anatomy or composition. Any advice would be welcome.

>>1535807
well, I'm going to for big plump thighs on this one

>>1535810
>>1535808
I'm confused, all you're doing is shopping someone else's work? I mean, you definitely improved on the guy's jaw, but you can't expect to get very far on a technical level unless you put your pencil to the paper and learn what it is that the artist who drew the picture was originally thinking.

I'm not saying there isn't a future for this kind of stuff, but it's not /ic/ work. You might want to head to /gd/ (graphic design) for photoshop work instead of actual painting/drawing work. That said, you mentioned you haven't learned anatomy (and some other stuff) - you should learn it. Anatomy, form and perspective all go hand in hand (most art does, actually) - but with these three things you can know what is anatomically incorrect in any angle.

If I'm misunderstanding and you actually drew this, let me know - I'll post a different reply (sort of).

>>1535812
Don't get me wrong - they still look good, but if natural is what you were going for, the knees are off.

Before you take that any further, you might want to do a drawthrough of the torso, it looks really crunched. (Doesn't look like she's leaning, it looks like she has no abdomen).

>>1535812
You've introduced harsh edges where they were softer in the reference. Makes the forms look creased instead of transitioning more gradually.

>>1535257

HOLY SHIT

how did you know it was that picture?

>>1535812

You'll make it soon but you've still got a long way to go

>>1535812
delicious. keep it up

>>1535826
Thank you!
>anon who couldn't describe the issue

>>1535801
patellas don't cause a crease when the legs bend.

>>1535834
Pedos know pedos. They are psychically linked somehow.

>>1535816
Was looking for some artistic direction/ideas since I'm not the creative type.
Hmm, it seems to work without the addition of the sky. Funny that the first time I tried this it begged more for a definition of her chin.
A change in one or two pixels can make a difference in what is called for.

Must move on to next drawing thing in time for convention.

Do most people here use sai/painter/something other than photoshop?

>>1535712
This is great! Its the first time I see an actual drawing of yours, instead of a "tealline" of someone else's

>>1535941
We know it's you Simon.

>>1535946
Who's this "we" stuff you keep pulling out of your ass?

whuddya think?

>>1535961

Head looks kinda squished giving a flat top look. Ear and eye is too close to eachother (also left eye is too wide). XXX belt looks flat and not wrapped around and is facing the viewer (looking flat) same with the thing below. Lines are pretty clean but some of the clothing folds/creases are off in the top left half of the drawing. His legs are in an awkward stance even if hes standing on a rock, and one is longer than the other.

>>1534550

I'm a little bit confused here, are you getting angry at anime artists or angry at /ic/?

>>1535975
He's angry at his mom for giving birth to him.

thanks for the tips...

if i had a fucking tablet i could make corrections... i inked this one... good practice inking at least. drew it small so it was harder than usual.

>>1535608

>>1535608

>>1535608

>>1536137
>and then there's this guy

>>1536137

>>1536072
neat!

I wish /ic/ had spoilers. I'm so embarrassed by this that I have to sage.

>>1536160
Enjoy your ban horse fucker

>>1535812
How are you getting it to look so smooth? Is this sai or something?

>>1536179
a very light touch with the water tool

it seems like whenever I start coloring the face, I tread a fine line between cute and creepy as fuck.

I should make a really creepy looking girl some time though.

also if you would have told my highschool self that I be spending many hours a day drawing cute anime girls, I wouldn't believe it.

>>1536163
Are you retarded?

Err, hey. Kinda new here. What do you guys think of the way I'm colouring? (I'm doing touchups later, don't worry.) The bg is going to be a big field of sunflowers, and I'm gonna add clouds and shit.

Nearing autosage, anyone want to share for the next OP image? I only have a bunch of unfinished sketches of deer.

>>1536185
What about this? (I had some great sketches, but the file is too large.)

>>1536184
Your colors are almost exclusively warm, which creates zero contrast. You need to study figure and anatomy though, as your hands look like she has two thumbs instead of a pinky. Also, you lack confidence with laying down your paint - it's very blocky and doesn't live up to what I would expect from an anime drawing.

If you're using reference (which I assume you are based on the clothing and hair) then I suggest you try to emulate the original artist's style - clean up your value variation specifically. Also in the future I'd spend some time studying proportion, figure, anatomy and color theory. Maybe a little time on composition as well. Other than that, it's a good solid drawing - not amazing, but still fun to look at.

>>1536187
Okay, thanks.

>>1536163
You may not believe it, but this is the second time I've been told to enjoy my ban today.

>>1535812
Open the image and imagine you are lying on the bed, she slowly sits at your neck, with this cute face, and then silently crushes your head bone with her knees, your brain splurting slowly like squeezed can of yoghurt.

>>1535712
Nigger needs bigger lips and nappier hair

Gook needs squintier eyes and buck teeth

Master race is perfect.

>>1536191
Replace my head with Muh dick

>>1535608
Tribootin'.

>>1536181
>I should make a really creepy looking girl some time though.

>Oppai chicken-legged yandere futa loli

My dick, my heart, and all of my sorrow.

>>1534378
Left foot looks weird.

>>1534392
Head too big.

>>1534378
You need to do some muscle and bone studies, your arms for example are basically jetting out of the sockets - there is no muscle on the anatomical left shoulder, for example (either that or you drew it thinking of the muscle way too sharp).

Your gesture work seems to be solid considering how fluid the figure is, but there are a lot of anatomical anomalies. Are you using reference? If not, get into this position, or if you have a girl willing to pose for you get her to position like this and then take a shot of it. It'll help a lot.

Either way, take a picture of the position and then make sure you pay particular attention to the way the muscles lay on the bone, and the way the bone looks in perspective.

>>1534699
Study anime artists - simplify form, value and colors. If you know anatomy, you should know enough to be able to study an artist's style.

>inb4 anime isnt a style.

Study artists you like, copy their work, try to emulate their techniques.

>>1536207
Not that Anon but I've been told that is the worst thing you can possibly do because you may be emulating a bad habit from said artist...which is why I've never even thought of doing that because it feels taboo.

>>1536209
like drawing the eyes too big? hue hue hue hue hue hue.

>>1536209
>bad habit
If it reflects the kind of work you want to do, then I see no problem emulating the artist. You're basically doing the same thing with a master study when you copy from observation. If you're studying a style though, it would be very beneficial to know enough about your fundamentals to know if something is "off."

That said, you can't just go at a style like anime without knowing what to look for - you HAVE to study good work and understand what they're using to create their "style," anime is very symbolic and simplifies a lot of fundamentals (light, color, value) but "good" anime won't exclude a fundamental entirely.

As with anything, there are good artists and amateurs - bad habits can be fixed, but you should still look for people who know what their doing, and this is a chore if you don't know what to look for - if you DO know what to look for, I see no reason to not study style. Style is a conscious choice, you can't just master something like anime without studies.

Pic semi-related, 1/3. There are a lot of ways you can draw, you SHOULD draw realism because you'll learn a tremendous amount, but that doesn't mean you SHOULD ignore things that aren't realism.

Hope this makes sense!

>>1536213
2/3 (sorry, distracted by another post)

>>1536218
3/3

Haven't read this in a while but if I remember right it does talk about the major 5 styles (realism to abstract symbolism) - don't discredit a style because it's a style - if you like it, that means it succeeded in the job it was doing. Study the artist, learn what makes their style a style.

>>1536196

While I like these drawings, what you've done is less an exercise in capturing the nuances of different races, and more a catalog of generic archetypes that happen to be associated with certain races. It is as if you were drawing the main character, and two back ground enemies.

Again, no offense to the drawings themselves. It is simply that your choices reflect cliche typecasting that one tends to find in older video games and B-movies.

>>1536196
I don't like the white guy. As >>1536223 said, they're generic portrayals, but personally the one on the left doesn't look 'distinct' or 'different' in the slightest- just a very simple character with no importance.
And judging by your other two characters here (which I really love despite the said generic look), you could do better with him.

>>1536186
I love this! I love how you stylized Isabelle ;) this is exactly how I would imagine her if she was a human. Do you haz more?

>>1536196
Jesus, Phil, your dichotomatic between the first and other two. Stop riding other peoples dick and make your own style.

>>1536213
>>1536218
>>1536221
The artist in the pictures is conflating caricature with style. Granted style alters to the presentation, but it it's not alteration itself--it's the rationalization

Before you go in further discussing 'style' it would benifit you to define the term first without so much vagueness, contradiction, and assumptions.

>>1536223
>>1536234
True, the White Guy is half assed as everyone pretty much draws them and I was on cruise control starting out. I did have to concentrate more on the other two which is why there's more to them. I suppose I could have drawn all 3 as skinny ass teens, but I thought the exercise was to make them distinctive as in different age\body type. Many manga artists (even in Japan) I think have a hard time drawing something other than skinny teens. Some draw older people as teens with just more lines on their face. I try not to be that.

>>1536307
Who's style am I riding? 0_o

>>1534385

New Thread:

>>1536390
>>1536390
>>1536390

>>1534721
Are you implying that I vote for the Reform party? Because I vote for EKRE.

>>1536332

Well Phil, I'll tell you whose style dick you've been sucking...

Everybody from the late 90's and early 00's. Image, Wildstorm, Cliffhanger, etc. Anybody looking at your shit can see J. Scott Campbell, Joe Madureira, Humberto Ramos. Quit living in the past and do something significantly your own. Maybe then you might have something to actually contribute, once you stop living in the shadows of other peoples balls.

Obvious is obvious, dumfuck.

>>1534487
Bro, look up "perineum", you've got some proportion issues back there right now.