/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Thanks man.

Beards you say?
Just a sketch atm, disregard the hand
I blew it out of my ass at like 2 in the morning and it needs a lot of revisions

Might as well repost this

Ref from another thread

Beards you say?
Just a sketch atm, disregard the hand
I blew it out of my ass at like 2 in the morning and it needs a lot of revisions
Had to delete and upload again for resizing, oops

No beard for you sir ,however, I offer an underpolished gesture painting!

>>1529912
very cool

yeah, so this is my beardguy from Rembrandt's Anatomy Lesson, he's gonna get painted on with acrylics, this time with proper underpainting and everything

>>1529906
check your proportions

the mouth usually lines up with the corner of the eye

nice drawing though, the values are great and solid rendering

>>1529915
sweet!

ears looks kinda weird but might be the ref

>>1529915
How you do that?

>>1529932
figure it out

>>1529937
You're not him.

>>1529940
learn to draw

>>1529932
look at reference and draw what you see, like life drawing, sticky should have most info on that stuff

>>1529943
needs moar beard

>>1529932
look at it, then figure it out

Roughly 1.5 hours

I think I should have used more than 2 layers.

Btw how do I do trees? :/

>>1529952
>>1529945
>>1529951
I guess.

~1.6 hours

Should have used more than 2 layers...

How do I do trees?

I'd really appreciate some help here, I'm trying to get back into drawing after not doing it for a coup' months

#4 jesss Wippy wip wip

>>1529973
I hope this looks better

>>1529973

I hope this looks better

>>1529987
The stage right eye is a little far off
Use small lines or value to show the bridge of the nose
Over all its a really good start, nice lips, great line
Keep it up, mate

Sexy Stalin.

>>1530086
I like you

is this ready for coloring?

>>1529987
shoulders too heavy/wide

>>1530086
for the love of god put the lids back on your markers

>>1530113
lol'd

>>1530106

Thank you.

>>1530113

When I'm done they go back neatly in to their bed with their caps on.

>>1529916
Yeah, no. The moth doesn't always line up with the corner of the eye. You fucking robotic, generalizing fucking hack. The corners on my mouth reach way into the middle of my eyes.

You fucking idiot.

>>1530153

>>1530153
I'm pretty sure it's the middle of the eye as a general rule anyway

/Man/ do I hate this piece with a burning passion. Everything about it just looks so /awful./

>>1530153
This - the assholism.

Relax your face and then focus on only stretching your mouth - you can do this and have your alignment be much wider than the eyes. Every face is different - if you sameface, then study a shit ton of faces to help understand.

Emphasis on the >generalization; because being "non specific but accurate" is what will help with sameface. Symmetry is the most important thing in a face, and even then, it shouldn't be 100.00% perfect if you want it to feel realistic.

>>1530196
Figure out what makes it look awful, deeply consider that, and move on to your next sunrise with this new knowledge. Buffering a turd doesn't make you better, take what you can and move on to your next lesson.

>>1529943
poopy.

learn2gesture&loomis&vilppu

>>1530196
it sure as shit does
It's flat, it lacks edge control (learn the concept of the 4 edges), it has bad colors and flat values.
Start by learning simple geometric shapes and applying them to things.

>>1529906
Lel, hey

These large flat rock surfaces are killing me.
Also, can't find any decent refs for the little waterfall thing in the bottom centre.

>>1530348
The little waterfall thing in the bottom center would likely create some white water. Add in values higher than its surrounding water and you're set.

Great mood and values.

>>1530348
Reminds me of this.

please stop biteing other artist syles.

>>1530352
Thanks, I've been trying to get the values to look right for ages.

The light direction is very hard to keep consistant in my mind given the perspective changes the direction the light receiving planes are facing throughout the thing.

Do any of you know of some sort of 3d model program that could help with this?

>>1530354
I'll admit to ripping off Aschenbach and Richter, but I've never seen that painting before in my life.

>>1530357
Take it as a complement.

>>1530360
That paintings amazing btw. I'm looking at all his other works.

rushed myself at the end like an idiot, gonna do some more

>>1530086
Spoiler: that's not how Stalin actually looked when he was young.

>>1530458
they airbrushed his photos right?

wip coming through

What do I do with these fucking eyebrows?!
I just don't get it, halp

>>1530489
They should not be that thick everywhere.

Don't take my piece as an advice though.

>>1530489
The eyebrows are seldom uniform in thickness and value. Look how faint it is just above the tearduct, then it becomes much darker and thicker, then fades to a lighter value again. There's more to the eyebrow than the shape of its contour - think about value and edges.

>>1530509
You're saying I should construct it while working with values? I thought everything should be formed at the stage of sketching, no?

>>1530513
There aren't really any definitive rules on what should and shouldn't be included in the sketch, especially if you intend to paint it. The problem here is that you filled it with a uniform value when you didn't need to.

You should either fill in all of your darks, or none of your darks. In the sketch, lay in your lines as contours for shapes - including the shadow shapes. Divide everything as being in the light value group, or the dark value group. It can be argued that only part of the eyebrow belongs in the dark value group, but that depends on how you approach it.

After you have your two value groups established, expand it so that you have about 5 values in use while keeping the initial divide consistent (three values in the lights, 2 values in the dark for example).

>>1530513
>>1530516
And for extra clarity, here are some quick and dirty mockups of dividing the reference into two value groups. I played around with the contrast slider to make these, so it's not as 'correct' in terms of refinement or simplicity had it been done by hand.

As you can see, depending on which values you want to push into your shadow group, it's possible for either the whole eyebrow to be grouped with the darks (shown on the right), or only part of the eyebrow to be grouped with the darks (shown on the left).

You should pick whichever one you feels works best compositionally.

critique it

just need to draw these horns before I can start painting, they're hard, man.

Drew a deer.

>>1530564
Nice I really like it.

after 8 years this is the best i can produce from imagination... should i give up?

>>1530564
sweet deer bro!

>>1530569
8 years of what?

>>1530575
daily masturbation.

>>1530575
drawing studies

>>1530578
not daily, no

>>1530559
giving it a rest for today.
>>1530579
what kind of studies though and how old are you? if you're like 18 then chances are you only started doing studies recently and the 8 years doesn't really count from when you were 10.

Working on those 2 characters atm.

>>1530583
you need to study lighting asap.

you seem to just randomly jot little brushstrokes to give it a 'painterly' feel and cover up the fact that you can't actually build form, that will only get you so far (in face it will get you nowhere) so you would be better off studying light and colour before trying something like this.

There nothing wrong with doing fun stuff from your imagination too but make sure that you are trying to incorporate what you lean in your studies and make a priority of studying.

>>1530581
turning 28 this year, but no not recently, on and off 8 years. i think i need to give studies a rest and just learn to paint from imagination, because this is bullshit, i want refund for my time!

how to block pls

Thought I lost the study when my computer overheated and I didn't save, so I slept yesterday instead. Turns out it was backed up so I guess I should work on it :P

Robots and niggers, is that a normal combination?

>>1530636
>how to block pls
http://fuuka.warosu.org/ic/thread/1513814

>>1530583

Small update, Going to sleep now.

zbrush sculpt of a girl with a cape.

check out my other work over at my webcalzone: jensalarsenaas.tumblr.com

>>1530665
>>/3/
Looks good though

>>1530665
face is fugged.

>>1530014

>>1530636

Tell me how I'm doin

>>1530700
I would take a look at her neck again, seems quite long. Also the ear seems oddly thin. Good job at preserving the models attractiveness

fuck i can't into long faces

Just finished this, it took a little over two weeks of work (if i had drawn everyday)
Woo!

I'm a bit lost on what to do next

Do I fill the rest in with midtones using the soft brush?

>>1530746
This is NICE.

My only critique is, in the posts, rocks and stuff there are too many scratchy little lines. I suffer from doing this myself and i PROMISE it takes away from the piece. Can you try using texture brushes? I feel like it will be soooo beneficial to you.

>>1530747
His eyes aren't chinky enough, fix em, he looks like a cracka

>>1530747
put a lot more blacks in there. The darkest spots on the painting are your midtones.

>>1530747
I think you'll find it easier working dark to light. Put in your shadows before your highlights. Shadows are what allow form to really show.

A simple drapery study

>>1530746
thats fuckin dope

Teal robots. How can I stop uasing such flat colors from imagination. What would be good to study for dynamic/lifelike colors?

>>1530746
Cool man, turned out great. I think you can simplify/flatten the rocks a lot though. And also make the dragon pop a little more with value and saturation (take a look at how Ruanjia handles this stuff). I also think you can crop a bit tighter to get rid of dead space. And the guy on the throne at the bottom can be more obvious too. Watch out too for it being a bit overly symmetrical, I tried adding some cracks to one column to break it up a bit.

Anyways, hope that helps a bit...I think I went a little heavy handed on the paintover, obviously you can do it with more time and subtlety. Just my 2 cents on the piece though, again, it looks great.

>>1530685

>>1530759
Dang thanks a lot. I can definitely see how much more it could pop, i might lighten up the rocks in the back a bit or just try messing with the levels

>>1530748
Ahh yes that would definitely make things easier, i shall get me some!

>>1530685

>>1530685

I stopped following the reference after the 1st update, I wonder if I should drop it here.

>>1530715
update

>>1530723
I'd ease up on those shadows a bit, especially by his side, it looks to sharp and dark. Did you do an underdrawing for the face?

Made a little more progress. took your guys' advice and did my best to block in values and stuff

>>1530159
I love to scroll down while I'm pretending to squish buscemi

Rendering so gerd damn Boring GRRR

Drew up some random ass ho to keep me sane

She's shat

>>1530818
DAT ARMY GIRL HNNGGGG
Can't wait to see finished. Do you have Deviantart by any chance?

behhh

*noodlenoodlenoodle*

>>1530818
That eye man.

>>1530833
Over rendered for my taste (a bit slick and plastic), but over all it is still a pretty nice painting. The legs are really well done.

I'd rework the face the face though--it is an important part of the image, and it isn't painted that well in my opinion. Also, watch that the lower arm isn't getting too large...like right now it is the same length as her leg., and the

Banana from life.

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Any input would be appreciated.

I was just messing around with colors in Photoshop (which I never really did before) and it turned into a weird landscape (of which I also never did one before other then just copy).

I know it's shit.

>>1530833
Face isn't very pretty and arm is kinda long (one holding staff, our right)

>>1530746
we are men.
we are wet.
we are wet with sweat.

>>1530898
well, you've got a semblance of perspective in there, so good going. Anyway, I'm going to treat this assuming you'd like to put together stuff like 1530781 eventually.

Forget about colors for awhile, you need to work in black and white to learn some basics about value and how to use it to represent light/shade. There's guides on this in the OP if you dig around. Also, look into linear one and two point perspective. That should get you started.

>>1530833
Her cleavage kinda looks like it's painted on, and her navel/hips seem disjointed. Certainly not bad though.

Life studies, numbers are minutes for each drawing. Working on getting my tone lines to follow the form/ be organized and exciting.

>>1530886
Looks nice. Looks like you used small brushes for the entire thing though, or some sort of jitter. Try working with the biggest brushes you can, then doing details like the brown marks with a texture brush.

>>1530799
looks like you're just copying the value. Try to think about how those shadows give the face form. The shadow the nose is casting is too close to the nostril in your version. It should run up and over the tear duct.

Fond of the ear in this one, not so much the rest. Again, numbers are minutes spent on each sketch

>>1530784
I'm not sure what's going on with the light source. Seems like there's a white light to our left of the scene, and the lights on the robot are supposed to be casting light. Id suggest making the white light weaker and lighting it mostly with the robot's lights. That'll require quite a bit of repainting though.
Also, work on your hands/fingers.

>>1530752
Looks solid, but you're riding that white pencil a bit hard. reserve it only for the brightest brights. Also, your value only hits 10 (dark) in some creases in the lower right. Try expanding that value into the shadows a bit more next time while reducing the white- leaving more halftones to play with.

I just have to face it, I draw ugly titties.

>>1530781
Really cool, I like seeing oil in these threads. I don't think you can really pull it off on this one so critique to keep in mind for the next: Only thing I'd say is to push the value on the hill down, and the value on the top of sky even further than that. You've got a foreground which works really well cast in bright light, a mid-ground (the hill) and the sky as background, but they all hang out in the same value range.
Take that with a handful of salt, I haven't really bothered too much with composition in a long time.

>>1530700
neck is too long, and the ear is too busy and doesn't look much like an ear, aside from its placement.

I like these, but I'm still struggling with organizing my value quickly while making sure my strokes follow/describe form.

Found a dead cicada outside, took it in and did a study of it.

>>1530759

have it pop by adding cool colors. not by crippling the detail of the background, honestly.

waddafukman

15 mins in, no ref

>>1530965
Neat!

something is wrong somewhere, i just know it. can't see it though. any help would be appreciated.

>>1530108
GUYS, HALP

>>1530917
Mother of God

>>1531020
The fuck's with the character positioning on the canvas?Ever heard of composition?Google it bro.Overall it's a shitty sketch no doubt part of that wave of "Imma make my own Last of us Ellie." if it's not your anatomy is more fucked up than I thought.
With all that said...why are you asking other people if it's ready for renderring....you can spend allday refining a sketch...only you can decide if it's ready or not.Now Grow some fucking balls and go study and stop pester /ic/ with dumb questions..

designing a race

>>1531039
Kris?

current state

>>1531057
dude holy shit that is awesome.

watch that ear though, I'd say you should place it a little more "closer" to the head.

>>1531068
the ear is driving me mad
there's a lot of stuff wrong with my study in general when put next to the reference, rembrandt was a genius

>>1531073
btw

Do you have any tips how to achieve flesh tones like that? How do you do it? Which colors to mix etc?

>>1531078
google gurney color zones of the face

>>1531082
this so much, real eye-opener

I'm trying to learn to draw people and stuff. The facial expressions always come out wrong.

>>1531082
I am aware of that. But still, not even once have I seen detailed information I wish to know here: >>1531078

Is it such a big secret that nobody wishes to reveal?

>>1531143
Heads are extremely difficult to draw well. It helps to learn the major forms and key landmarks of the skull, and the major forms of the parts of the face. Vilppu's head drawing videos are a great primer for learning both.

>>1531189
No real secret. Just takes a lot of practice and observation to slowly get things right.

Note that there's no universally correct palette for skin tones - it depends on the local colors of the model's skin, as well as lighting conditions (both from primary and ambient light sources).

A key tip is to never use colors straight out of the tube - learn to have an appreciation for the grays. It's one of the more useful means to achieve hue and temperature shifts while keeping a harmonious palette. These posts on Gurney's blog are somewhat related:
http://pastebin.com/rQ2EVg4J

>>1531201
I surrender. Time to practice and do studies, then. Thanks anyway

>>1530902
>implying the face has to be "pretty"

Attempted this again but from a different angle.
I'm much more fond it of it.
P:

>>1531283
........

>>1531225
This is very good.

>>1531281
I love how shit this is.

Sketchin' Nothin special so far but I feel it could be a good imprint for some crazy ass designs

Sketchin' Nothin special so far but I feel it could be a good imprint for some crazy ass designs

forgot to crop muh desktop

>>1531281
Lol whats up with the fuckin hermit crabs man!?

>>1530450
trying rgb sliders, hard as fuck

>>1531291
I would love to hear why you think so.

>>1531329
Hermit crabs are awesome! They're actually pretty fast and would make lovely steeds in rockier terrains.

>>1531057
Are you using one of the Rembrandt books? I seem to recall there was another one about drawing apart from The painter at work

>>1530931
Thanks I will try to use more varied values next time :)

Can I get a cat dressed as a red panda in a group of other red pandas?

Like it was in some kind of secret mission.

>>1531375
Go to /b/ for that. We don't do requests here.

>>1531377

I checked, no draw threads on /b/, that's why I came here. Sorry

WIP

>>1531386
Epic, simply epic
Fuck le anime!! xDDD I'm like so le mature and professional for that nip shit lol xDD

>>1531394

Hey man, stop that.

>>1531386

I like that, apart from the eyes it's my kind of thing. Can I see an update of it?

Made back in May, so I don't have the reference anymore, I'm afraid.

>>1530569

Step one: Don't ever apply that bullshit filter to your work again

>>1530931

lol the point of bargue/cast studies is to make them as accurate as you can. The book itself recommends 10-13 hours EACH. I don't know what value you find in speeding this, because in the end, only your technique will be lacking.

>>1530196
Because it sucks.

>>1531451
Why not use some references?

https://www.google.hn/search?q=lake+horizon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=UKcVUqbuCais2QXNqoCwDw&biw=1920&bih=971&sei=U6cVUrXiC4mA2gXN54GgCw#fp=8301314f3c666d62&hl=en&q=lake+sunset&tbm=isch&um=1

Studying style today, more than serious stuff.
I'm REALLY enjoying this.

>>1530923
Probably a combination of both. Thank you. :)

>>1531438
>10-13 hours EACH.

Thumb isnt reading and I uhh have no idea how I can accomplish this but damn it looks cool - to me anyways

still trying to draw grils from imagination

still failing but i feel like at least they look like girls now

>>1531516
saved, great work man

Charcoal study of a venetian carnival mask

>>1531572
Hey, thanks!!

I've been working on it more. Done for the night

>>1531584
Also, i have to ask, can anyone give me any tips on how to make him look more "authentic" and not done of photoshop?

>>1531568
i like her soulpatch

>>1531331

>>1531663
Looks good, but the thumbnail's a bit fuzzy, especially toward the bottom.

>>1530975
Do you know what a quick paintover is?

>>1531551
I am spaghetti to your meatballs..?
Anyway, the thumbnail reads alright to me, but usually when the thumbnail reads it's because the values are good. If the focal point is that entrance in the trees, why not make it like there's a lamp inside? there would probably be the most light in there.

>>1531568
Is this supposed to be realistic?
if not, what's with the light, bro?
If it is, you're just cementing in symbols by not using reference. Do more studies and then try again.

>>1531386
Eyes look somehow wonky, I don't know. Maybe they should be more widely spaced. Or maybe the perspective is wrong.

guess what time is it?

>>1531400
alright
>>1531695
i don't know either. this is as far as i can take it with what i know.

>>1531709
It looks like you're treating the face as two flat planes meeting in the middle like a V. There's no form to the eyes they look painted on.

>>1531717
your diagram is off, planes of the face are familiar to me

>>1531720
his diagram is what he's criticizing. learn to read. learn the planes of the face and foreshortening as well. the face is super lopsided regardless of how wonky the forms are (her left cheek bulges dramatically, the side of the face obscured in shadow is rather flat). I think you should begin by drawing the skull and jaw in perspective.

>>1531720
Yeah, you're right. That face totally doesn't look weird.

>>1531709
also:
>changes the mouth to 'open'
>jaw stays clamped shut
if she opens her mouth it changes the position of the jaw as well as the muscles of the face.

got bored and painted

>>1531746
cool

>>1531724
n-no, why would you imply that?

>>1531663

>>1531586
Fucking lol'd

>>1531709
Eyeballs look flat. The skin around the eyeball looks like it's being stretched, and not resting on the surface. Pic related.

>>1531720
You can argue with people all you like but her face will still look like a creepy, skin-colored mask.

>>1531890
thanks for pointing that out, i wonder how i haven't noticed that myself? hasn't it occurred to you yet that it was my intent?
alright, if you like eyes bulging out, i'm going to draw that next, just how you like it dear anon.

>>1531895
i'm not arguing, i am aware that it doesn't look right to people who are used to more realistic looking faces. if i wanted people to focus exclusively on the face, i would've painted a portrait...

>>1531692
nope
i think the eyes give that away pretty clearly

>>1531568
never forget eyebrows. i hate girls who pluck their eyebrows out (and then paint them on)

critique please !

>>1531939
somehow all ur artsy stuff casaully placsed makees it so much better !! dokuuu ^_________________^ :) :) :) :)

>>1531942
:D !

>>1530975
backgrounds dont need detail anyway because we arent fucking looking at them

>>1531709
Neck looks thick. The shadow on her right shoulder looks odd, too dark. The legs need more work, the shadows don't blend well.
Her hips are strange, maybe because the panties seem to be riding up on (her) right. The panties look like a solid object rather than fabric that clings. Her left hand and arm feels unnatural, maybe place it on her hip instead of her belly and uncurl the fingers. The perspective on the face is off, like it's being stretched, particularly (her) left eye and eyebrow. Her right cheek and jaw is also wider than her left. Also, try letting some light hit her left cheek, that might help it look fuller. (The right side of her head needs more light too, it's pretty dark.) Try flipping the picture to see what's wrong with the face. Hope that helps.

>>1531796
bounce light from the bottom is wayyy overstated. pay more attention to values and id say stay away from that really blendy spongey brush you have been using but its up to you

original image: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11155089/

>>1531963

>>1531963
They do, so that you distract the viewer from seeing the negative form of the foreground.

>>1531973
This is the ugliest fucking painting i have ever seen and its fucking posted on here all the time why?

>>1531992
Are you deaf in the ear?

Don't kill me.

what do you guys think (honestly)?
the angle is all wrong and the shading's not yet complete, but how would I then go about colourising it? using a new layer for blocking in the colour and setting is a 'Colour' layer?
go easy on the critiques, pls ;_;

>>1532003
why did you delete it?

>>1532039
Uhh if you're talking to me, and you might be, I made a new thread.

>>1531909
it has nothing to do with being realistic or not. The face is off regardless of what you were trying to achieve. You may not have been painting a portrait, but that face distracts of the whole picture.

Learn to take some criticism

I was pretty much accepted into gnomons 2 year program "only the special peeps are accepted" mmhmm gnomon mmhmm not according to /ic/

Anyhoo the guy told me I should go deep into some 3d nonsense to get a feel of it and see if I enjoy it. Gotta do some Design related shit Cars creatures all the boogaloo.

just some knight from while back I did a touchup to she still looks like shat

>>1531225
if it's miss fortune my dick is supposed to be hard
i recomend you study faces more

>>1532007

i'm no expert on portraits but i would recommend you to start soft, and then add sharpness where you need it.

>>1532007
Looks awesome!

So I can SOMEWHAT draw from imagination but can't for the love of god copy a picture at all. What does this MEAN?

>>1532114
ít means that you can't draw from imagination you liar :(

>>1532089
his problem is not the rendering. Even with only hard brushes I think he does a good job at rendering form. His problem are the proportions. He can worry about soft and hard afterwards

how good at the Peter Han Dynamic Drawing workshops and the Hampton workshops at CGMW, I was considering downloading them

>>1531964
Thank you sir, that is the critique i Was looking for, it clarifies problems With the entire image (her body, at least), rather than something i've done intentionally.
polite sage

Current WIP

>>1532142
How did you decide you were going to draw this? Just think to yourself "I'm going to draw ___," and get to work or did you spend some time doodling or what? I'm having a lot of trouble just starting a fun creative image.

>>1532148
This is basically the process of this one:

>hmm, let's draw
>let's draw a crab
>let's do the crab as a gangster boss
>no wait a lobster

A skype friend showed me a picture of a pug.
Brainstormed some attributes and I was good to go.

>>1532148
just think of two (or more) elements and combine them

seriously, you can even just look around your room/out your window and merge two objects together and make the setting and the style interesting.

>>1531143

I'm back. Finally got some pencils.

>>1531143

>>1532229
You are not even trying, so stop littering the thread. I am not criticizing your art here, I am saying that you are lazy. If you really wanted to study this and learn something from it, you would erase this feet and tried to draw it again. But you chose to make photos of it, make a collage and upload it.

>>1532231
You are not even trying, so stop littering the thread. I am not criticizing your art here, I am saying that you are lazy. If you really wanted to study this and learn something from it, you would erase this feet and tried to draw it again. But you chose to make photos of it, make a collage and upload it.

sketching, wip

>>1532265

I don't notice problems like the ankle proportions (and the head) until after I put it next to the reference, if that's what you're talking about. But you're right that the feet were lazy and I will try to not post until it's more substantial.

>>1532279
something interesting better happen, otherwise that's a pretty useless sketch

robot bartender girl

>>1531947
Looking good, but the composition could be a lot stronger if you cropped it, the square is rather boring. Also, is he supposed to look so short?

>>1532313
didn't have anything else planned but a fat highway patrol officer. do you have any suggestions?

update

I has a drawing for you

practicing different angles.

concluded this study, far from perfect but at least i learned some stuff...

>>1532469
Whatd you learn

>>1532476
first time i've worked with a palette this muted, tried to apply knowledge i had gained about color harmony and value, first time i worked with a palette this muted,also wanted to see if i could avoid the mistakes i made last time, i bet i made a whole lot new mistakes, not sure right now, painted all night

>>1532477
i am not very good at language now

>>1531438
Awesome! I didn't think I'd get a reply at all. Bargues are meant to be done in the sight-size method. I don't currently have an easel or stand that I can use to properly do a sight-size drawing. My goal is to be able to get really strong likenesses in under an hour, so I'm working mainly on value organization and line quality until I can get a sight-size setup going. That said, I'll probably still only spend 3-4 hours on each drawing, as I see the main benefit of sight-size practice to be developing the ability to draw what you see. I don't really care much for rendering.

First post on /ic/

This one took me about an hour all together. I'm somewhat happy with it I sort of fucked up and tried to make something out of it still. Should I add more to it details-wise?

Just finished this the other day.

this was less painful than usual
ref: http://i.imgur.com/z047Qi7.jpg

>>1532490
2edgy4me

Pretty satisfied so far. Being that I've taken so few attempts at digital painting

You know what to do mafukkas! Tear me a new one! This one was 45 mins. Thanks fellas!

>>1532539
I think his skin tone is a bit too yellow?

how do you decide where to make the lines heavier in gestures so they don't take more than five seconds to understand?

>>1532548
I like it but it seems a bit static or something. Maybe liven it up a bit by making it a bit more expressive.

crit pls

>>1532563
You should be using an extremely light line weight for gestures but really any major lines that lie in front of another volume (like legs or arms crossing) or any lines that help tell the action stronger (spine, major curves) could be a little darker.

>>1532582
Basically every proportion is wrong in some way. If you were going for highly stylized though it's looking good.

>>1532582
First thing that I noticed is that his mouth is a bit low.

>>1530108
No.

>>1531796

Some figure drawing.
1/6

>>1532613
2/6

>>1532615
3/6

>>1532616
4/6

>>1532617
5/6

>>1532618
6/6

Any feedback on those?

>>1532555

Maybe. If amything ill take the saturation down later.

The ref I'm painting from is based in india so it has a pretty strong yellow atmosphere

I'm going to start doing some studies of humans/anatomy. The normals.

But I have what to depict. I mean, I don't attend any course, so real life models are out of the question. Is there any homepage with free nude-studies of any kind?

>>1532636
artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/

It's in the sticky.

>>1532618
>>1532617
>>1532616
>>1532615
>>1532613
Good start, now do about 500 more. Also, watch proko's gesture video on youtube.

>>1532640
Yeah, thanks, but is there anywhere I can find specific poses, like crouching or lying on a hard surface etc etc.

This was more of what I was looking for.

>>1532681
google.com

Best site for this.

Capchat: efficiently lel

>>1532420
exploding car in the background. That always adds interest.

>>1532539
dem symbol eyes

r-i-p

>>1532420
add a police car and/or a hand-cuffed hooker or beat-down bloody citizen

need crit, a few fast drapery studies

need crit, few fast drapery studies

>>1532338
now he looks taller right?

critique the shit out of me

>>1532732
Very good.

>>1532731
>>1532732
Nice proportions on the figure excluding the arms+hands and decent shadow mapping, but it's clear that you're just haphazardly filling them in. Every stroke should have its place.

>>1532743
It looks like the only thing you finished was the iris and pupil. You need to learn how to recognize and construct value.

>>1532748
still new with digital painting

>>1532755
Don't ask for a critique if you're going to get defensive.

>>1532755
excuses

>>1532768
>>1532771

n-no, not giving excuses. I just wanted an elaboration of what that one guys said. What should I do next time?

>>1532775
Finish more of the picture before you ask for a critique. It's difficult to correct so early on.

>>1532777
I'll do what the trips say

tryharding on comp and perspective, crit pls.

>>1532796
Re-check the heights of the figures, black one in the middle of the street seems too tall for it's position, one leaning to the wall too. Hanging ropes look very parallel to each other, might want to add some variety. Otherwise I love it, did you use any reference?

>>1532775
>>1532755
I've been there. During a critique you really can't say anything. I cringe at myself now, when I'd even explain that I was 'aware' of my mistakes. And the answer was always an immediate checkmate "Why didn't you fix it then, anon?"

Critiques are hard for everyone, I bet even the best can't take them. You'd have to be an utter sociopath or liar if you brush off critique as being 'no big deal.' You have to go through with them, tough skin or not. Great artists got so good that there are few things you can point out in their work really. And the reason they allow critique is they open up, it's very emotional, they are in pain and they want to improve more than they want to breathe. If there was anything to help them get better they would take it. So they finally grow up, stop talking and making excuses and let someone else examine them.

This has nothing to do with your post. Just an insight on that vulnerability with C+C.

>>1532814
Thanks! You're right. I didnt dare to mess with the ropes too much because they are very major for the comp so I kept them parallel or else it might have looked messy (?).

I kept checking my perspective grid and I looked at some of my holiday pictures when I was in florence. The castle is actually a old practice painting of mine from google images, its somewhere in the north of france. (pic related)

>>1532823
Now looking at your grid I think you should add another vanishing point for the leftmost columns to compensate for the extreme "camera" angle distortions. At first I thought that you just forgot to fix it after skewing whole image to create the vertical convergence, but knowing that it was done deliberately it's worth to mention.

>>1532823
>could you upload one of these 2 reference photos in the original resolution?

>>1532831
that's weird, I didn't put quote mark here
is too much dr pepper psychoactive

>>1532796
The first thing I saw is the arch/pillar on the far left looks off.

>>1532830 Thanks alot for pointing this out!
Do you know good sources where I could learn about this? I only know basic perspective rules with 1/2/3-point and never read or saw anything beyond that on ctrl+paint etc. I did notice that left part was off but I dont know the rules behind it so I went with it not questioning the grid. I'd love to learn more about those advanced perspective rules and camera lense stuff. If you don't I'll just search for 'advanced perspective rules' or something.

>>1532831
There you go. Super basic camera though, sorry~

>>1532836
Actually looking at the painting again I think the rule is simply that all objetcs on both sides from a perspective point centered in the picture have their own secondary point off the page?

But I'd still position that point at gusto how I feel it's right... So I guess the question remains, especially in regard of the camera lense stuff.

Thoughts?

>>1532836
I think this guy explains the basic idea fairly well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA9SZYK3ozw

As for the more in-depth lens related stuff I'd like to see a good tutorial myself, sorry.

>>1532845
Yep, kinda like that. Your FOV is so wide that you basically have multiple 2-point perspectives that merge together.

some silhouettes I did for someone.

>>1532836
Oh, and for the advanced perspective construction check out Gary Meyer's DVDs.

>>1532864
>>1532871
Thanks alot for digging up these two, I'll check them out.

>>1530547
It's so easy to spot Russian scum

One hour study.. crit me

>>1532881
looks really good

>>1532879
Well, doesn't that apply to you as well? And to me of course, or how else would I know that, fuck.

>>1532883
I'm not Russian, moron
Poshel nahui

>>1532881
His legs seem to be darker that the rest of the body.

>>1532891
Sure, sometimes I say that to myself too. I think if we'd stop being so hateful to each other, then someday it wouldn't be such a shame to admit.

>>1532861
Work the perspective points out before you start drawing , the perspective that should be going toward a vanishing point on the right recede to the left.
The subject looks designed around the handlebars somewhat haphazardly.

which should i draw?

>>1532902
the one with the tiger

>>1532902

>>1532820

It wasn't until after I posted it that it made me sound like a fucking ass. I posted it for anyone to critique what I had so far. But whatever, thanks anyways

>>1532836
I used your reference to draw this. I am really new to drawing and I am not sure if I am learning the right way. Am I on the right track and I should keep going (maybe copy whole photo) and copy from life on paper, or I should rather spend this time reading theory or something

>>1532975
Hand's too small

>>1532931
stroke economy

here a quick drawing of a weird dream i had. Seen to many slendy vids i think.

sitting here looking at the arm of my couch and trying to do color and fabric simultaneously.

i don't know.

>>1532881
final

>>1532995
That is creepy as fuck.

>>1532997
left hand looks smaller than his right
there is a crosshair at his crotch
was the background in reference that empty and that shade of gray? if not, learn to paint figures superimposed against their natural environment... or something like that
>>1532881
no one gives a shit how long it took

>>1532737
stubby arms

>>1532902
They're all shit but do 5 coz that's funny

heh... it's a jew.

>>1532737
make lines less scribbly. if you do, it will add to realism

>>1533042
It might be a style, i think it looks cool anyway

Been working on this for a while

my colors are pretty shitty, did the B&W>color conversion with color layers, not really sure what else to do with them though

>>1532975
that happens to be an old classmate of mine, im sure she'd be happy about it.

I would say do both. Drawing from real life is the only way to really further your skills but of course without good knowledge of the basics mindless copying doesnt help much.

Workin' on this for a bit now. thinking of having the entire ribcage of the horse forming out of her, but not really sure how to go about doing it yet.

>>1533299
>rendering details before even completing the composition

Currently doing a study of this, which I'm going to continue on tomorrow.
Could anyone be so kind and point out the major flaws?

Been working on this sketch for a short while. Any chance I could get anatomy critique before I move on to actually painting this sonofabitch?

>>1529892
My first time working gestures with non humans. Any tips? Which one?

>>1530923
>>1530927
>>1530931
DO you actually own those casts, where did you get them?

>>1529892
There's something I don't like about the gesture and composition but I can't figure out why.

>>1531057
>>1532469

oh honey its looking so nice but i really think you would benefit to wash darkest darks first then lighter shadows and build up to finally highlights with opaque lights like old oil do....