/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1529005
I don't know, but drawing the hair is frustrating me. I get lost in it and easily confused and then I look at another drawing and I tell myself why can't I just keep it simple?!

>>1529015
Because you're treating hair like it's not a shape. If you can block in the shape you can worry about managing values with it later, just worry about getting the major contours/shapes.

finally got around to doing the lines. my tablet stopped working today when I put in a new nib and I have no idea why.

Haven't been able to use my tablet for a month.

>>1529115
Something about the futa's face just throws me off.

>>1529127
It's the left one's weird looking mouth and the right one staring off into the distance instead of at the other futa.

>>1529131
Also the stray eyelash on the right futa's rightmost eye makes her look a little concerned

k hows this

>>1529139
i think the first one was fine, but that one's good too. they're both fine.

>>1529139
This one is better

>>1529192
not her mouth doe though right.

I drew that as a joke.

>>1529195
I like the shape but not the inside.

But I know nothing so pay no attention to me. It's just personal preference.

Not satisfied enough to ink it, but somehow it got itself colored. I don't even know.

>>1529220
Is that half of a bathing suit? It like disappears between the legs.

Ok i want to start into anime drawing but i have no real anime experience excpet inyuasha.

Any anime recomandations i can draw from? but that are also good to watch,

Someone told me i should watch elfin lied i tried watching it but, was suprised at how disgusting and weird it was, "naked robot cat girls" please tell me that is not what anime is.

there has to be better ones than that right?

>>1529237
Why are you asking for recommendations on /ic/? There is a board specifically about anime.

>>1529236
It "scrunches" wrap around the crotch area/bottom

>>1529241
I know but im talking about good ones to actually "draw" copy from. That has a good style.

>>1529244
What?

>>1529236
I tried to mimic this using the WiiU draw prodram

>>1529241
>>1529245
Ignore him. He's one of those trolls from the other draw thread who looks down on anime. It's funny cause he doesn't remotely have any artistic knowledge and tries give criticism. Don't fall for the bait.

>>1529244
Ah, ok.
The trouble is that in actual animation, many shortcuts are taken, which is why most contemporary anime look very primitive, with only two tones of shading, etc. So there's nothing to be gained from imitating actual anime. i.e. it's just meant to be fluid and efficient.

The actually admirable art is found in manga and fanart, which, like everything else, still falls under Sturgeon's law.

We had a thread on manga artists a couple of weeks ago. Maybe it's still around, dunno.

>>1529245
Like you know pause the video, draw it and copy what is on the screen to sort of mimic the style.

>>1529254
Welp ok cool will search for it, i think i like the Manga style better "its the one with pencil and ink right?"

I just think it has more of an illustrative appeal that i like. also anime is badass and i like a lot of the work im not trolling.

>>1529253
>>1529254
>>1529258
Did you just fail at trying to samefag? HAHAHA.

Poor jannie.

>>1529252
Actually >>1529245 was me (in other words a random guy). I said what because I honestly didn't understand what he was trying to say.

>>1529262
all post you listed are mine except 53... dumbass.

>>1529264
>>1529265
Nice try.

>>1529270
Not sure if trolling or just a dumbass who can't read either way fuck off.

^ thanks to the dude above who actually offered me some good advice.

>>1529262
>>1529270

But shit, you're pretty good.

>>1529289
nice shop

Aaaand that's how this thread officially goes to shit.

Anyone want to buy my tablet off me? It's new.

>>1529298
Why you selling it?

>>1529246
Nice worked looks like it cleaned up well.

>>1528934
I want to turn this into a full illustration and need some feedback before proceeding.
Gesture, expression, foreshortening, background, values... this is just my first draft.

>>1529302
Can't you tell obvious plagiarism when you see it? look at the huge dip in quality between the head and the body.

>>1529392
this ones much nicer.. and now that you mention yeah. Im still new to anime but ill keep better attention.

>>1529400

Seriously who doesn't know sailor moon? Are you even American?

>>1529404
Im only 25 so i watched it a bit but didn't recognize the character, sailor moon was blonde with pigtails and a cat, this was her best friend sailor mercury or something.

Haha i really don't remember much but secretly liked it as a 5 year old boy.

>>1529379
in terms of foreshortening and anatomy, nothing makes sense except for maybe the right hand.
eveything is weirdly positioned.
extremely dynamic angles are hard to do and you still lack the knowledge for that.

>>1529416
>extremely dynamic angles are hard to do and you still lack the knowledge for that.
That's why I ask for help.

Can you offer red-line or at least give some references?

>>1529392
1. I said tried to mimic.
2. Plagiarism is written work
3. I didn't claim to make that one - you troll, I did the ones on the WiiU.

>>1529502
>Plagiarism is written work

How old are you?

>>1529502
>Plagiarism is written work

3/10 made me giggle

>>1529115
Love your work, anon, but I'd suggest the head on the right one is turned at an anatomically improbable angle. Try the pose in your mirror, careful not to hurt yourself.

>>1529502

>tried to mimic
>uses copy/paste to "mimic"

Oh you~! Drawing an animu head isn't that hard.

>>1529698

It's kind of possible, just pretty uncomfortable. The head should probably facing the other direction a little bit more.

Also, the other shoulder should probably be moving with the head, it makes the movement more natural.

>>1529675
Look inside the dictionary. troll 0/0

>>1529759
copy/paste? RETARD there's no copy paste funtion on the WiiU. Retard. goodbye go be anhero

>>1529763

I'm sorry, I don't have that bad system. Can you also post images from the WiiU to /ic/?

>>1529762

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism

"2.
a piece of writing or other work reflecting such unauthorized use or imitation: “These two manuscripts are clearly plagiarisms,” the editor said, tossing them angrily on the floor. "

Troll harder scrub.

>>1529502
>2. Plagiarism is written work

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/plagiarism
>noun
>the practice of taking someone else’s work or ideas and passing them off as one’s own.

Asking for some help in improving.

>>1529774

>>1529776
Well first of all, it's just a matter of getting your lines thinner and more precise.

After that it's a matter of working with lighting. Both of these have a soft white light, so they don't need that much more emphasis on values, but you want to experiment with other types of lighting.

>>1529779
Thanks, alot. Anon. I always had trouble with atmospheric lightining. I guess this gives me more motivation to work on that.

>>1529779
Thanks, a lot. Anon. I always had trouble with atmospheric lightning. I guess this gives me more motivation to work on that.

>>1529766
"writing" as in written prose. Please leran how to interpret litlerature. "Drawing" is not in that category.

>>1529765
I'ts actually a good system. It's just people keep knocking it because it's what the "cool" people are doing. I don't knock something unless I have tried it. What's useless to me is the Xboxone - that's a BAD system. Here's some works from the WiiU.

>>1529766
"Writing" as in written prose. Please learn how to interpret literature. "Drawing" is not in that category. Last reply from me to the trolls. Don't like it? TOUGH!

>>1529866

>>1529866
Here's another

>>1529866
>>1529869

>>1529869

>>1529865
Plagiarism is nothing more than the wrongful appropriation of somebody elses work. The form of the work doesn't matter. You taking credit for it does--that's plagiarism.

You're a plagiarist like all the other hacks here; no need to get all aspergers over interpreting dictionary definitions.

>>1529872
Last one - I'll look for really good ones later.

>>1529874
Who took the work? Noone did.

>>1529874

These
>>1529219
>>1529220
look NOTHING like this
>>1529246

It's redone on the Application for the WiiU. If you can't understand that - you need to go back to school.

>>1529867
>or other work
had to do it

>>1529885
post art and shuddap

>>1529887
why would i repost my shit if i already got critique for it?

>>1529881
They look like shameful copies by a lesser skilled person.

And plagiarism isn't just about looking exactly like something, it's about taking credit for someone elses idea.

So, you're a plagiarist, a hack, a thief, a phony, etc. etc.. Nothing shocking there, considering where you're posting and the people you're sharing with. Bird's of a feather, that sort of thing

>>1529910
blah blah blah.... you say the same shite over and over. Say something original. Your mother is a phony, plagiarist transvestite.

wip
I can't draw legs for shit man. I'm not really getting how legs work when people sit with open legs

>>1529942
michael hampton?

>>1529942

Michael Hampton.

>>1529946
ahh, the figure drawing place - I remember.

>>1529944
>>1529946
yea i have it on right now for reference, it's just a little difficult to pull off without looking kinda weird, but thanks guys. I'll post progress soon

>>1529938

this any better guys? I know the thighs are thick, I'm trying to draw an Elin so please disregard the thunder thighs

Is there any more hand drawing examples/tutorials that do it like in this image?

Ive seen many methods, but this way seems to be the one that makes most sense to me without being too complicated.

>>1529959
I think the hips might be positioned a little high on the torso which throws off the leg proportions.

>>1529959

The whole lower body is fucked the hell up, and her ribcage connects directly to her pelvis, even though the external obliques takes up almost the same length of the pelvis..

Just watched LWA again and wanted to draw something

>>1530000
Welcome to Elins.

I kinda find it interesting how features relate to each other, and how sometimes it's the things you deem unimportant that turn out to be the most important thing.

Like how in order to understand the neck, the head, the chin and how everything fits together it's actually the ears that you have to pay close attention to.
Or in this case for understanding the mouth, it's the teeth in relation to the nose that you have to pay attention to for it to make sense.

I think that's the reason why beginners tend to be able to draw single eyes, noses or ears pretty decently, but can't for the life of them put it all together on a face.
Anyway, i just wanted to share this.

Tried to draw her face in different angles.

>>1530034
Did you draw that?

Do we have any animators here? I wanna see some /ic/ animay

more from the WiiU sketchpad

>>1530045
yes, is there something wrong with it?

Another pic made from WiiU Art Academy: Sketchpad

Another pic made from WiiU Art Academy: Sketchpad

ctop

>>1529881
Are you really this dense? The plagiarism is the copy pasted head from >>1529392, not that you tried to mimic >>1529220

>>1529219
>>1529220
goddamnit, i hate you. this is terrible and you should feel bad about it.

>>1529234
both of the girls have too short arms. too narrow necks and too big heads. the left one has her head turned in an angle that isn't possible. you should work on your proportions.

>>1530088
1. So you bitch about something that I didn't do. hmmmmm.

>>1530090
I feel bad for your parents - you are truly the product of what should have been swallowed.

>>1530083
wow im going to have to try this seems like you already leaned a lot.

>>1530071
No it's just really neat. I like it.

>>1530071
where did you copy it from?

>>1530083
>>1530069
>>1530067
>>1529876
>>1529872
>>1529871
>>1529869
>>1529868
>>1529866

Can you do anything original or at least semi-original? And do have to mention WeeU every time? Are you a shill?

>>1530139
Sir, on what basis are you making this assumption?

>>1530145
I did your mother - then played WiiU

>>1530147
Did you do that on the WiiU too?

>>1530151
I have nothing to do with the wiiU guy. And that's just one of those images from that 2hu set.

>>1530151

You people are retarded.
See this
>>1529765
I was asked to post artworks from the WiiU - and since I did - you guys bitch about that. Grow up, get a life, and post artworks.
Stop worrying about what other people are doing.

>>1530154
>>1530151
You people are retarded.See this
>>1529765
I was asked to post artworks from the WiiU - and since I did - you guys bitch about that. Grow up, get a life, and post artworks.Stop worrying about what other people are doing.

>>1529760
I tried to turn the head more but this is about as far as I can take it because I want both eyes to be showing. I also added a fold in the neck b/c I saw a lot of folds in my neck when I turned it.. also which shoulder are you talking about . if your talking about the front one, right now it's going the opposite direction of the head turn because of the arm wrap. so that shoulder is being pushed out which might make it seem her neck is twisting more then it really is
the girl on the left is suppose to have a dreamworks face btw

>>1529964
that image is terrible, don't use it

>>1530162
I love the way you color. What is your process or any good coloring tutorials out there that might be useful?

Bought a tablet for some non-art stuff. Figured, fuck it, might try to be all arty. Turns out drawing is hard.

Better of just drawing a shitload of random manga-type things or go through some manga drawing guides/tutorials?

If ya want a laugh, he's the second drawing I've done since about 2004. Most fun I've had in months was doodling away at that today. Still don't know how to dress her. Clothes seem difficult.

>>1530168
I love 0033's pixiv so much. His stuff is great.

>>1530162
You really really have a bad understanding of anatomy. You're just mangling information to justify a poorly contrived pose.

>>1530184
I think you might have the stiffest neck in the world. I can turn my head see both as and the plane of my back. grils are more flexiable anyway

>>1530197
I doubt he was only talking about the neck.
I too don't like this combination of moe head together with a disfigured body with tons of sloppy fat on it. Some of you are too easily imperessed and tricked, but if you look past all that fat, you'll see that his anatomy is pretty weak.

His understanding of the neck to body area is especially weak.
>clavicles
>shoulderblades
But it seems like drawing huge sloppy tits is enough distraction to make people think it's actually good anatomy.

>>1530182
>Better of just drawing a shitload of random manga-type things or go through some manga drawing guides/tutorials?

This is like asking if you should repeatedly push a door in hopes that it'll eventually open, or learning how to pull to get it done right.

>>1528934
this image looks like some kind of pseudo photoreference study. source?

>>1529959
sorry I didn't read the part about it being an elin. otherwise I would have make the head and thighs bigger. I love elins and their hips n' thighs
>>1530209
I know I'm no Michelangelo but Jesus dude cut me some slack. even the best hentai artists out their make mistakes. it's not like I'm being complacent and not trying to improve. have you seen my older work, the anatomy in that is a thing of horrors.

>>1530227
Can you post your older art?

>>1530162
>>1530209

I'm not one of the previous posters, but there is a minor issue of posing for the girl on the right. It is not about the possibility of the pose, but the efficiency of it.

If we take a look at that girl from a top down view, her torso seems pointed to the right, her face to the left, and her eyes to the right again. Such complex, alternating orientation tends to show multiple intent of movement, and that does not seem to be what the artist wishes to express here.

Most of the time, the twisting body should show one uniform motion. This is the whole action line concept in animation.

>>1530227
I think you should branch out a bit to gain experience.
Try to stop drawing the moe head for practice. because right now i don't feel like it fits.
Work on your style bro.

Also stop focusing so much on anatomy. The clothes and hair are also a huge part of aesthetics. You tend to only draw bald chickenlolis, and even when you clothe them it looks like they are always quasi naked.
You need to realize the BEAUTY of hair, fitting clothes and all the distinct features of the face! stop thinking about anatomy, it's important but it's not all there is!
Your drawings lack character!

>>1530227
No, you're just seeking approval.

>>1530226
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=3585
Here's their pixiv.

>>1530235
>implying he isn't leagues better than you

>>1530234
But how to develop the unique style? They say, it comes with time. What should I actually do to develop it?
*other guy*

>>1530242
Nothing is going to change if you don't make it change.
You develop by trying out new things as well as learning already existing techniques. Leading to you having your own way of doing things as well as a good amount of knowledge about how things are SUPPOSED to be done.

In other words: go out of your comfort zone and try out a lot of things.
Nothing will change by you doing the same thing over and over again, at least you will only develop at a snails pace this way..

>>1530245
Thanks, seems I get it. So I just should draw in many different styles.

>>1530240
he isn't

>>1530253
Post some of your work? I ask out of curiosity not because "hurr if you think your so good post yours"

>>1530257
>implying he will

>>1530257
Sup,
Pic related, it's some of my old stuff.

>>1530263
is that a man or a woman?
>fail

>>1530264
>saying fail
Go back to facebook, normie.

>>1530253
>>1530263

>he's better than you
>no he isn't
>prove it
>hurr look at this master sketch I'm so funny LEL that should distract them!

Get the fuck out you pathetic loser. And yes, you are worse than Teal, you just proved it by admitting that you cannot post anything of your own work that is better.

>>1530268
I think we should all just stop this and get back to drawing, okay?

Fuck off, Teal

>>1530252
70's was the shit.

>>1530270
You fuck off. Teal is at least contributing to these threads and trying to help people. Your presence here is completely worthless.

>>1530227
>teallinedude.jpg

Why would you do this? Do you see what it is causing?

>>1530268
>>1530270
>>1530274

>>1530263
Fixed ;)

>>1530279
Holy shit you suck. You didn't even get wrap the lines on the arm in the right direction. No wonder you are so mad at Teal.

>>1530263
needs more lommois
>>1530278
not my fault people are retarded

>>1530285
>wheel spinning retards
>anime thread
pick 2

>>1530285
>owl neck twist

>>1530268
>jealous you're not n my level

Go cry to your jannie.

>>1530263

Yep typical cancer thread

>>1530296
you couldn't contribute anything worth a damn even if you wanted to.

>>1530302
isnt the garbage in this thread what /a and /c and /i are for? why is this here? counterproductive to learning, these threads are cancer to /ic/

>>1530302
The amount of newfaggotry on this board is just..... Where did you all come from? /soc/ raids one day and you all decide to stay?

>>1530285
Epic trolle ;)

>>1530321
But I learned a lot from Teal.

>>1530330
teal does nothing but describe the fundamentals in the sticky. basically his redlines are telling everyone learn your basics then you can stylize any way you want. these threads are cancer

>>1530290

>>1530330
Sure thing, Teal

>>1530324
You don't have the slightest fucking idea about the newfaggotry on this board, newfag. That's why we have to go through the same shit over and over again. Thanks to faggots like you.

I have to ask you what the hell you are doing in here if it doesn't help you progress or it isn't otherwise in you interest to be here.

>>1530346
Go back to le tumblr, Teal.

I'll just post this update while I continue my quest on drawing that Elin.
I don't know what you guys complaining about by the way. Mostly everyone in the board is shit, but that's why we're here in /ic/, cause we're shit and still learning, right? It's just more prevalent in these threads cause it's where people post their stylized stuff which in turn, attracts people who are just starting out. If I'm mistaken, please tell me.

>>1530335
You are cancer. Fuck off not just from this thread but from this board entirely.

>>1530369
sexy lips

>>1530168

Thanks, I didn't know there was a translated version.

>>1530366
>>1530342
>>1530335
>>1530326
>>1530324
>>1530321
>>1530296
Wow look at all the content you contributed to the thread. All you're doing is shit flinging and starting arguments, /ic/ needs to wise up and stop replying to shitposters like you.

>>1530382
Why are you so mad, brah?

>>1530371
See >>1530386

Funny thing is the people expressing the cancerous truth about these threads are trying to help anion learn to draw, and the troll ops of these abominable 'try to fly before you can walk' train wrecks laugh at you

>>1530401
Who cares?

>>1530407
it's fucking up the board you malignant turd. And it gives other newcomers a false sense of, "ok i can dump my shitty work here too"

leave and never come back, /a/, /b/, /soc/

what happened to that guy who posted some Dirty Pair and Faye Valentine drawings?

>>1530407
You

>>1530414
You mean the Wildstorm wannabe?

What about this fanart I made guys? Is it decent?

>>1530523
aight 4/5

>>1530523
Too fat.

>>1530532
FYI Finn is chubby, no arguments there.

Posted this a couple of hours ago on the /a/ drawfag thread. Tweaked it a bit. Is there any grave mistake I'm still not seeing? I think there isn't enough change in value on the skin and I probably should have chosen a more defined light source, will be more careful on the next work.

>>1530577
Stiff as fuck pose, who sits like that? Eyes don't really match with the style of the rest of the body. Those high heels look like needles.

Don't expect to fix all of these things, but keep them in mind for next time.

>>1530580
>Stiff as fuck pose, who sits like that?
I kind of reffed this half way in... but now I realize the original worked because of all the sharp angles I didn't include...
>Eyes don't really match with the style of the rest of the body.
They feel like they're pasted on, right? I keep getting this problem and I don't really know how to solve it. I don't want to go full-blown realistic eyes...
>Those high heels look like needles.
Will fix, thanks.

>>1530587
>They feel like they're pasted on, right? I keep getting this problem and I don't really know how to solve it. I don't want to go full-blown realistic eyes...
Learn how to do realistic eyes correctly. Major forms, major planes, etc. Once you know how the eye works and can depict that on paper, you can simplify. Pic related.

>>1530601
>It often seems as if the eyelashes in anime/manga are thick. However, it's not eyelashes, but a simplified way of showing the thickness of the eyelids.

Suddenly a whole lot of things make sense.
That is the most useful bit bit of advice I've read in a while.

>>1530601
I am also studying and pratising faces. I have problem with perspective in the more extreme angles (see bottom row). Can you offer me some general guidelines or measurements?

>>1530488
>wildstorm wannabe
haha, i liked his stuff, shame he doesn't have a site or blog to post more of his works

>>>/r/11644173

Out of curiosity, what is the actual Font Type used in most comic book/manga books?

Is it Helvetica? Something Else?

Link goes to the /r/ thread about this very topic, and also contains a nsfw picture showing an example of such font. Thanks to anyone willing to help.

>>1530616
google "manga font" click on yahoo answers.
are you new to internet?

>>1530601
>>1530609
I'm not a regular in these threads. The pic I attached isn't mine, but a repost from teallineguy.

With that in mind, I think your problem stems from use of established simplifications without fully understanding the real world analogues. A few of the heads from the first two rows look fine, but once you have extreme angles, you're trying to shoehorn simplifications that only work from level vantage points.

For example, your jawline never changes, even when we're viewing the head from below. The mouth and lips have no real forms. The nose simplifications work from some vantage points, but not all. The eyes in the extreme shots don't read as spheres and the irises aren't laying on the eyeball correctly in perspective.

Take the time to learn how to draw the real head (especially the skull). If you haven't watched Vilppu's three head drawing videos, you should. They're very helpful for learning to construct the skull and head, as well as the various parts of the face.

>>1530227

Ignore those fags, don't know who you are so people can't say i'm sucking your dick or anything

but as far as being consistent you're the only one in these threads that red(blue) line and actually know what you're doing

I appreciate that it's like 0033 but in english and with blue

meh

Just starting to get into coloring with photoshop, saving up for my wacom

>>1530650
Shut up, Teal.

>>1530227
>>1530227
Guys this isnt teal its kyle

>>1530606
>it's not eyelashes, but a simplified way of showing the thickness of the eyelids.

Suddenly, you realize how much of an oxymoron Teal is.

>>1530699
You mean fat fingers?

>>1530706
I've been wondering who fat fingers was, why the name and what "resources" did this person lose to cause this person to attempt to deviate away from the thread's objective?

>>1530706
His name is Chicken Legs.

>>1530710
Fat Fingers is one of the regular autistic pedos that makes these threads. He always crying about how it's hard to post from his phone and needs emotional support from his fellow autistic pedos.

He's got fat little chibi hands to grope kiddies with, ergo Fat Fingers

Let's see, we gots Teal line guy, Fat fingers, Timmeh, Chicken-legs-futa-oppai-loli guy, Lefty, Troll-chan, dolphin guy, and Dirty pair guy.

Not to mention Illustrat and Chunbum Park, it's truly been a pleasure to be with you all.

>>1530609

>>1530734

>>1530736
Go back to tumblr, faggot

>>1530734
>>1530736
>tfw you're years behind in studies to execute perspective at this level.

>tfw your only mentor is someone who barks Loomis at you and calls you a faggot.

I'll make you proud someday, o red haired one.

>>1530736
eyes look like they were punched into their orbits, and the nose seems to magically morph with every viewpoint.

>>1530734
Why do you think perspective is such a catch-all word?

>>1530739
It's not that difficult Mikufag. Try to conceptualize the head as a cube. There's more to it than that, but it's a start.

Anyways more update on the elin. Been doing studies all day and got back to the elin. One question though, how does one draw hentai? I mean I want to draw stuff like Fatalpulse, Ishikei, etc, but I don't know where to start. Any advice on where to start off?

>>1530178
I made this special for you

inb4 "herp you suck at uhnatomee"

>>1530772
it's not just anatomy you suck at but also composition, color harmony, design, and you generally lack an artistic integrity.

But hey, you can draw one hell of a loli futa shit comic. At least you got that.

>>1530782
Epic shitposting troll lel XD *laughs*

>>1530787
fuck ya

>>1530782
>artistic integrity
Went full retard there...

fuck my back hurts any females wanna give me a back rub? *starts acting hella cool and sexy*

>>1530369
>practice in filename

how new to this are you again?

Have some Faye in a Box.

>>1530811
That nipples looks like a volcano. Not too good.

>>1530812

Fetish for Inverted Puffy Nipples of DOOOM!

>>1530772
Fuck man, you make me want to break out my shitty Bamboo tablet and give porn a try.

>>1530787
>>1530790
>>1530793
Epic samefagging lel XD *laughs*

>>1530811
What's with the leg? Are you into tubes or something? Why's the face distorted as well? And that arm...

>>1530772

Oh look. A picture tutorial that isn't absolute shit.

Not bad, chickenlolianon.

How do you render? I always get stuck at drawing these sketches and when I try to render it looks less than my sketches.

>>1530840
just use any technique. hell, even use chickenlolianons tutorial there. >>1530772
once you get used to the tools you'll start developing your own procedure. so just get started with any technique.
You won't be able to do it well at first anyway, expect a learning curve.

>>1530772
I feel special. Thanks man.

>>1530743
>elin
>no super-thunder thighs
I'm disappointed man.

H-h-here I go again.

>>1530840

>>1530811
aww yeah
you are back

>>1530743

>>1530824

Noticed she had a case of Tiny Foot. Not sure what to do about the tubeyness of her legs other than finding some nice ref which I don't have time atm. But have at it.

This image blew my mind.

>>1530840
Rendering usually makes the lineart stand out less, that's normal.

>>1531155
you need to have defined form separation for it to work, though. it doesn't work so well if your b&w painting is messy
try to desaturate a colored painting and then try this method. you will find that it's not as easy as it looks.

When designing a painting what is better, fixing something shitty or designing something perfectly from scratch?

When I try to plan everything ahead of time often I miss a single obvious thing that ruins the whole picture.

Other times I just draw to get it done ASAP, then I paint over it to fix the mistakes, usually ends up looking more dynamic but it lacks unity.

Pic is me practicing painting over some images that were bugging me.

>>1531255
>holding swords
>WITH THEIR BARE FUCKING HANDS
i'm impressed

>>1531155
The grayscale is awfully dark for the final product. :/

I wonder how the original artist went with it, because I can't imagine placing the coloured layer on the grayscale and not having to tinker the fuck out of it. It's definitely not as simple as that.

>>1531255
>>1531257
Don't take the bait.

>>1531165

Don't copy over picture as you won't learn anything.

>>1531258
Tinkering with it, it was Hard Light that was used.

Interesting. Not into animu but I'd like to experiment with that.

>>1531257
Jap detected

>>1531259
Animu drawthreads are bait

why everything anime attracts trolls? i don't even go on /a/ anymore.

>>1531289
It's simple, have a bit of self control and things will be alright.

Something I've been fiddling with.

>>1531295
this is really great, do you have a blog?

>>1531268
I'm flattered

>>1531289
It's not the subject so much as it is the people that attracts them. You people could make any other kind of thread and you all would still attract the same kind of attention.

I feel burned out again, I know I have to keep practicing but I can't even pick up my tablet anymore and starting to procrastinate. I hate it when I get like this, any good remedies out there?

>>1531302
I usually am good about keeping a consistent work flow but I ate way too much thai food today and just feel like laying around. But USUALLY, if I dont feel energy I will actually jump rope in my backyard and think about what I'm going to work on the rest of the day. I get burnt out from studies way faster than imaginative works, I think it really just determines on the person. Find what works for you. I switch things up a lot to keep it interesting, usually warm up with personal drawings then work into the studies later on in the day.

>>1530734
>>1530646
Yes sir(s)! I mentioned before I have no real knowledge of head construction and rely mostly on my intuition.

Now that I have studied a bit more, am I doing it right?

>>1531309
Earlier ones were better if you ask me, as far as style goes.

>>1531296
Nope, just a shitty deviantart.

http://minariku.deviantart.com/

>>1531301
i don't see how that's possible if everyone's anonymous.
unless trolls like anime, that would explain everything.
for example, i don't like chubby people, but i don't go on their forums and explicate how much i dislike chubby people, but i'm sure there are some chubby lovers in denial who love to troll chubby people in their circle.

>>1531314
>http://minariku.deviantart.com/
do you have big hooters

>>1531317
Yes.

>>1531312
Yeah I figured that as well, because I switched my focus from stylizing to construction to make sure it's correct. I am not very good at producing a consistent style yet.

>>1531309
Didn't have much time to do them but hopefully this would help.

>>1531315
>i don't see how that's possible if everyone's anonymous.

I don't need know who you are to understand what you're posting. The essence of a post speaks from your character. If you're an egotistically naive sexually frustrated perverted grown autistic child posting shit for the sake of approval and feeling content in galavanting a stupid cliched view about the way things works onto others, then your post will gladly showcase those things without giving away your identity.

And besides...

You people already have nicknames for each other and already give your personal information out at a drop of a hat. So I doubt you have anonymity here.

>>1531334
I have anonymity because I'm not a fool like the rest of ya's. Plus I constantly change my behavior so it'd be impossible to even give me a nick name heehee. And for the record this isnt the person you responded to.

>>1531340
>>1531322
>>1531315
>>1531314
samefagging

>>1531345
You're an idiot. I don't even like anime I just come into this thread to humor myself.

>>1531345
Not samefagging. I like to think I grammar and type better than that.

>>1531330
Mikufag is improving! LOVE the expression. Keep it up <3

>>1531352
I-I'm not Mikufag...

In fact, I haven't seen Mikufag here in a while now.

>>1531358
Shit your right. Miku's lines are always sloppier. My bad. Still like the impression though.

>>1531352
Miku draws soulless expressions.

>>1531379

taking a break on working on this, what have i done wrong?

>>1529502
>2. Plagiarism is written work

10/10

>>1531384
Cute.

Any crticism is welcome.
I know there are some things i need to fix, such as that arm, maybe the shoulder, and breasts.

>>1531381
That's just creepy

>>1531392
Oh, you :3

>>1531392

It's like the eyes follow me when I move from side to side...

>>1531383

Fixed.

>>1531411
...you didn't do squat, silly.

>>1531412
Oh, nevermind I see it now.

>>1531412

Didn't I, Anon? Didn't I? ;D

>>1531414
You sure did hehe but don't tell anybody it took me a minute to see it.

>>1531415

np. I suppose I should have just told the artist to fix the angle that the body is as it looks like she's off balance. But this thread need more pics.

Other than that, maybe the artist can put a little more thought into how the armor bends at the elbow, unless it's like that flexible metal that Iron Man has in the comics.

Kind of a manish jaw and face for a woman, but to each their own.

>>1531416
do you have a blog or something to see more of your work? also if you don't have one, would you make one?

>>1530743
Those legs are waayyy too short. Elin's don't have midget legs

>>1530743
Those legs are waayyy too short. Elins don't have midget legs

>>1531437
I fixed it a bit already but thanks. It has chicken legs but I suppose Elins have chicken legs due to their delicious thighs

>>1531420

Sorry, no blog. and yeah i should make one.

Just upgraded from Manga Studio 4 EX to 5 EX. Nice, a pencil tool that looks kind of like a pencil. I should really stop dicking around and get a comic done.

>>1531462

>>1531464
You should probably worry more about learning how to draw hands and how to put the correct foot on the correct leg etc first namefaggot

>>1531477

I think I do well enough. But TY for the concern, Anon. ;D

>>1531477

>a namefag is better than me
>therefore i'm bitter

I'm new at this

>>1531491

Look, Anon, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over.

>>1531489
>I think I do well enough
This is why you fail

>>1529139
Looks like she's toothless. Like a toothless granny. Gummy.

>>1531491

Perhaps a nice digital cloud, tree, and sketchy girl will soothe your mind. :D

>>1531497

Maybe, but a paycheck is still a paycheck.

>>1531496
>draws right foot on left leg
>gets called out
>cries 'mad'
namefags gonna namefag

Thanks for containing so much cancer in one thread animooniacs

>>1531503
>paycheck is still a paycheck

With all your bitching about being too lazy to finally make that so-called "comic", you sure do like to drop hints that you're a, "profashional". It's amazing how you can imply you collect checks for your, "art," and yet you have nothing to show for a web presence--no deviantart, no tumblr, no blog, not even a shitty myspace.

>>1531509

I know this is hard for you to believe (really), but there is a real world outside of the internet.

It is amusing that you're getting so worked up over a stray line in an obviously very sketchy figure to interpret it as an incorrect foot. Stay Classy. ;)

>>1531509

>>1531510
I find your bullshit harder to believe (really).

>>1531347
which means you're a troll provinding us with useless opinions.
get out.

>>1531389
face is completely lopsided and derpy.
body is beginning to show form. not good enough tough

>>1530739
>>1531309
>>1531330

I don't want to scold anyone for learning from Loomis. It's good in the long run. It's good that you are forced to draw some primitives. But I feel you guys are misunderstanding the whys.

Loomis draws all those shapes and guidelines in order to consistently reproduce a standard human face with many different planes, to a standard set of proportions that he favors. The cartoons and anime characters you guys are drawing do not have so many planes. They do not share the proportions used by Loomis. You are trying to map those faces onto a construct that does not fit. Why?

If you truly understood construction, you'd only use the shapes and lines you need. What you guys are doing right now is copying the blueprints of a car to build a boat.

>>1530739
>>1531309
>>1531330

I don't want to scold anyone for learning from Loomis. It's good in the long run. It's good that you are forced to draw some primitives. But I feel you guys are misunderstanding the whys.

Loomis draws all those shapes and guidelines in order to consistently reproduce a standard human face with many different planes, to a standard set of proportions that he favors. The cartoons and anime characters you guys are drawing do not have so many planes. They do not share the proportions used by Loomis. You are trying to map those faces onto a construct that does not fit. Why?

If you truly understood construction, you'd only use the shapes and lines you need. What you guys are doing right now is copying the blueprints of a car to build a boat.

Instead of doing that, learn Loomis seriously. Or learn primitives and construction seriously.

Loomis is garbage, I've learned more from just about every other book I've picked up over his crap. I need OTHER books to explain what he's talking about because he's so bad at explaining how to use his examples in real life.

Construction is great, but Loomis is bad at explaining this shit.

Jump over to another one of the major recommended teachers if you're having trouble with Loomis.

>>1530609
How do you draw eyes like that? I'm jelous ;_;

>>1531618
>I'm jelous ;_;
There's nothing to be jelly of, those eyes are pretty bad.

Study REAL eyes, then you stylize them the way you want.
Trust me it helps a lot.

>>1531526
>a real world outside of the internet.
>bullshit

So, to be able to make money drawing you can only do so through the Internet. As all networking only happens here. I've been doing it wrong all these years. Color me corrected, Anon. ;D

>>1531589
> copying the blueprints of a car to build a boat
I get this feeling a lot when I do construction. I am following Hampton but the basic method is similar to Loomis. I can build a correct enough looking head but lack the style I want.

>>1531618
>>1531629
I never studied real eyes extensively. All you have to know is the proportions, placement and shape. Study from artists with styles you like and create your own through observation.

That particular style is redjuice, for reference.

>>1531649
>I never studied real eyes extensively
And it shows you idiot, also stop trying to imitate a style when you have no foundation to put it on top. I'm sorry but it's really horrible to look at that horribly deformed anatomy.

so how is it from 1 to 10 , thanks in advance for rating

>>1530845
>>1531160
Well, that too. But what I meant was the lineart.

>>1531654
>stop trying to imitate a style when you have no foundation to put it on top

you're in the wrong thread buddy

>>1531658
1/10

sorry, it's deformed, it has no anatomy or structure; it's your first time uh?
Study REAL anatomy, not anime, use a base to put the "flesh" of your character on, use a better tool, try to not make all those chickenlines, and generally, get gud.

Refeer to sticky.

>>1531668
yeah , l'm really a beginner , l appreciate the advice . will do what you said

>>1531589
I agree with you to an extent, however the reason why I am trying to utilize Loomis's method of head constriction is to understand the bare basic forms used in the process. I feel that once I fully understand his divided ball and plane method I may utilize it to my liking and draw any head I want.

I truly believe that the principle still holds true on all heads, including Animu.

this is the last stuff i drew, how am i doing so far?
also give some suggestion on how to draw feet cuz i'm praticing right now and i feel like I'm not improving at all

>>1531697
> I feel that once I fully understand his divided ball and plane method I may utilize it to my liking and draw any head I want.

Then study Loomis *seriously.* If you drew any of the previous examples, then you used a lot of time drawing lines going nowhere, doing nothing, having no relation the final face laid on top. That isn't going to help, because you're not understanding why that line was drawn in the first place.

>I truly believe that the principle still holds true on all heads, including Animu.

The principle behind form holds true. The principle behind space holds true. The various ways of dividing space equally in perspective holds true. And that is why those pictures were troubling.

Let's look at >>1531330 . The artist drew a cross in perspective to locate the center of the head mass. Forget the fact it seems to be laid in there arbitrarily, let's just assume that is correct. If you drew a line straight down from there, does the neck match it? No. So the neck is still not centered. The artist didn't actually use the construction lines he drew.

Let's look at >>1531309. Are the sliced sides actual ellipses? Does the artist know why the ellipse is used? (Answer: the ellipse not only shows orientation, but its width to height ratio shows how much the face is turning.) Do any of the alignment lines respect the shape of the head? It's not doing anything, it's not proving anything, it's not making anything consistent.

Again, I hate to come across as dissuading you from Loomis, but some of you guys aren't ready. It's not going to help if your spacial sense is poor. Go study Loomis seriously, go study primitives seriously. Doing this half way just means you won't understand what all the lines truly represent, and more importantly, how to do proper alignment/boxing in of your own cartoon/anime designs.

dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks

>>1531708
>No balls

Huge faggot indeed

hi havent posted here b4, im jenny 20 frm scotland, studied graphic design and comics for 2 yrs and am now a fashion student. created my own manga and would like some crit.

>>1531722
>2bitcheslaughing.jpg

these threads get better and better

>>1531722
original the character/10

>>1531728
>>1531729
Looks like both of you got TRICKED

>>1531722
Reminds me of my OC whom I made when I was about 10 years old.

>>1531731
>implying this isnt the standard for these pieces of shits masquerading as threads

>>1531722
the drawing is really quite nice, the rendering atrocious but that's not yours anyway.

feels like I want to do a paintover on it.

>>1531729
sinder is very original thankyou very much, 100% my own work always has been

>>1531737
My samefagometer just exploded.

>>1531738
T-that's kind of decent, actually. The lineart, at least.

>>1531743
thanx here's my male character from the same manga, flair

Just finished this piece.

I got what I wanted out of it, but I'm still not entirely satifsied with it, I feel it could be so much better.

What do I need to improve?

Help me /ic/.

>>1531748
AHAHA, HOLY SHIT
You're anatomy sucks, so does your proportion, so do your characters. read the sticky then gtfo

>>1531758
I bet you can't do any better.

>>1531756
Maybe I should have posted this in the other thread, I always get ignored when I post here...

Ah well, w/e.

>>1531763
We're not talking about me here, we're talking about you. And yeah, I can probably do better. Learn 3d forms for godsake, you are still too shit to actually even think about making a manga. You barely even have gesture down, seriously just practice more before you jump in and become an "artist."

>>1531738
>>1531722
>>1531748
These remind me of those 14 year old weaboos on facebook who want to become "manga artists" when they go to college.

>>1531763

That doesn't have to to with how bad it is. Just saying.

>>1531756
T...that's not how female anatomy works

>>1531764
It's not too bad but, that stance is really throwing me off. I don't know if you're going for that but, it seems that she's about to tip over. And, I think the skin could be colored better.

>>1531765
I'm not the one who drew it.

Also, post your stuff.

>>1531769
There's no need to put others down.

>>1531777
Mine's all on paper, and I don't have a scanner m8. I'm still learning, but at least I have a grip on the fundamentals, unlike this "manga artist'

>>1531772
I'm not really worried about the anatomy, but mind elaborating? Any criticism is fine really.

>>1531775
I was going for that, it's supposed to be like "she's walking on air" kinda like the shots you see in fighters that are mostly just there to show off the character. Pic related.

Yeah, the coloring is what's bugging me the most. I wanna move away from line art too, what do you recommend?

>>1531798
I don't know, for anime style drawings like yours, the lineart is the way to go imo. But yeah, I'm having trouble with colors too, usually skin uses more colors than peach and brown, sometimes blue. Just do some skin studies and you'll be find

>>1531804
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking of doing. I have a collection of pictures of pretty girls, so I might just start using those to do a bunch of digital painting portraits.

>>1531804
Oh, I do wanna point out though, that in the picture of Noel for example, the line art isn't as 'black' as mine, I feel like there is one step I'm missing when it comes to line art.

How do I make it look better?

>>1531798
>I'm not really worried about the anatomy, but mind elaborating? Any criticism is fine really.
If you can't do the pose yourself, you probably shouldn't draw it

>>1531808
Why exactly?

I don't think anyone can do the pose Noel is holding really, and there are plenty of "floaty" poses that look fine.

I'll take your advice and keep it in mind though, thanks.

>>1531798
>>1531756

Your line work is sloppy. Clean it up and learn more about line weighting. Use longer, continuous, strokes. I will let someone else do a red line of the body, but I can tell you the right arm is too long and forearms are not shaped like that. The lower calves/thighs are badly shaped as well. The face is also badly shaped and the expression is derp.

> I'm not really worried about the anatomy
Shit storm incoming

>>1531821
What I meant was, I'm not worried about the anatomy in that piece, as it's not what's bothering me about it.

Good call on the arm though, I didn't notice that.

I'm still working on getting longer stroke on tablets. I find it more difficult to do so than on paper. I actually have no problem doing it on paper.

Any tips? I can do line weight if I could get longer strokes going on tablet.

And yes, I know "draw with your elbow" I'm just saying, shit's tough on a bamboo.

>>1531827
> I'm not worried about the anatomy in that piece, as it's not what's bothering me about it.

It should. Anatomy, proportions, value and form are your fundamentals and if they are not your first and foremost priorities then you're doing wrong.

Did you use any construction methods at all? Pick up Hampton's figure drawing and drill those basics into your head. If you can't see what's wrong with that anatomy you have a lot of work to do.

About line economy, either get a larger tablet or work from a larger scale

>>1531839
Yes, I did, but what I'm getting at, is that if I do a greyscale or a monotone of the piece, it looks better.

Something about the coloring is what bugs me the most, in contrast, the anotomy is not so much of a big deal, since I know how to improve that, yet, coloring still remains one of my biggest weaknesses that's seeing little progress. That's why I said "the anatomy is not what I'm worried about" because there are more pressing issues in my mind. No use focusing on what's been steadily improving over the past few months.

Anyway, thanks. I do have plans on getting a larger tablet. I feel that if I had a better tablet, this would be less of an issue. If I had a cintiq, it would be a non-issue, though those are too pricy for me atm.

Anyway, here's the proof of construction.

>>1531844
you suck at anatomy

>>1531846
lol, I like how this whole thread is people just shitting on each other with little constructive criticism, yet most of the pieces you see posted here are very sub par.

Last time I ever bother to post here.

>all that jelly

Look, I'm no master at this trade, but seriously, it's embarassing how people ITT can behave. I'll stick to the other thread instead, people there are actually much more helpful.

Bump limit, can I start the next one or does OP want to use another image from someplace instead?

>>1531850
Sure have a lot of confidence despite being shit.

>>1531852
Ah I was just in the process of choosing a pic, but sure you can start the next one

>>1531853
Yep...

Because at least I feel like I can improve. My work looks a lot better than 90% of what's posted here, and all the decent work gets shit on by so called "pros" whose work can't be posted because
>reasons

Anyway, like I said.

I'm out. You guys have fun circlejerking over girls with dicks.

I don't mind criticism, and my work being torn a new asshole, but people aren't really giving me much help, they're just saying "this sucks that sucks"

It's funny, I made a thread in this board dedicated to looking for some input on this very piece, and got tons of constructive advice.

I'm sure most of you are /a/nons, that would certainly explain the /a/utism. Anyway, like I said, cya.

>>1531857
Nope.

You're given constructive advice, but you ignore it because, "oh anatomy doesn't matter, I can fix that, the colouring is more important"

You can focus on colouring after you learn anatomy.

>>1531857
STOP

>not knowing anything at all
>le thrall hurrrr

just, dont pick the bait

New thread is up:

>>1531864
>>1531864
>>1531864

>>1531844
You arent constructing at all, just guessing where is something or where this should be.
>the anotomy is not so much of a big deal, since I know how to improve that, yet, coloring still remains one of my biggest weaknesses that's seeing little progress
I got the same problem some time ago, and truth is, life still helped me a lot. Go try it.

And stop having that thin skin. Guess where are you posting and where you are.

>teal pops in every now and then and gives amazing advice to an otherwise pointless thread full off autistic spazlords drawing women all day
>everyone tries to chase him off as best they can even though he's one of the few people in these threads that's worth his salt in knowledge

God damn, you are all so hopelessly insufferable. I really only come here to watch Mikufag and chickenloli at this point.

>>1530523

>>1531962